| --- | Log | opened Thu Aug 21 00:00:00 2003 |
| 00:01 | <paulproteus> | http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/ would do, but no, there's not. |
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| 00:10 | <kwenda> | I've got a NEAT problem |
| 00:11 | <kwenda> | i have a backend/frontend downstairs, another frontend upstairs... if i'm watching something upstairs that is being recorded downstairs (i like to watch baseball games on 2 hour delay so i can skip all the commercials)... |
| 00:12 | <kwenda> | sometime in the middle of the game the video will play for a second, stop for a second, ad nausem, until i pause it for a few minutes - even though im still an hour or so away from the end of the buffer |
| 00:13 | <kwenda> | thats not so much the problem as whatever it IS recording when im watching this gets REALLY screwed up... the video captured will be 1 frame every 15 seconds or so and I get thousands of "audio is out of sync" and "delaying to next trigger" messages |
| 00:14 | <kwenda> | but this only happens to whatever is recording when i'm having that first problem... the resulting recording is so bad that it locks up mythfrontend and i have to killall-9 it |
| 00:15 | <kwenda> | that only happens, by the way, once its done recording the game but i'm still like an hour behind in it... i don't know if thats just coincidence or not |
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| 00:17 | <kwenda> | good gosh i hope i didnt just type that whole thing and have nobody hear it... |
| 00:18 | <automatic_jack> | I heard it :) |
| 00:18 | <automatic_jack> | but my MythTV setup isn't even running yet. so I can be of no help. |
| 00:19 | <kwenda> | lol |
| 00:20 | <kwenda> | i know its not a CPU usage thing on the backend machine |
| 00:20 | <kwenda> | http://dsl.kylewenda.com/stats/mythtv/stats.html |
| 00:24 | <kwenda> | thats the frontend/backend thats downstairs... now the frontend i'm watching on is only a p2/266 but it plays mpeg4 using only about 55% cpu, and i dont know how it'd screwup the backend anyway |
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| --- | Log | opened Thu Aug 21 00:35:15 2003 |
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| 00:42 | <kwenda> | heh thanks for ALL the help guys ;) |
| 00:43 | <Captain_Murdoch> | anytime... |
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| 00:50 | <linagee> | markw: yeah. there is. :) |
| 00:50 | <markw> | anyone besides Alowishus (this is his fault) running a pvr-250 under debian? |
| 00:51 | | * markw promptly blames the guy that showed off a working mythtv setup. :) |
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| 00:55 | <Alowishus> | markw: haha |
| 00:55 | <tmk> | is there any way to tell which device is recording? |
| 00:55 | <tmk> | i have 2 tuners |
| 00:55 | <markw> | unplug stuff until it stops recording? :) |
| 00:56 | <Alowishus> | lol good ol' low-tech troubleshooting |
| 00:56 | <paulproteus> | lsof ? |
| 00:56 | <paulproteus> | Good night, all. |
| 00:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | tnk, backend will print a message when it starts telling you what cardid and source it's using if you ran the backend with the -v option. |
| 00:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | sorry, tmk. :) |
| 00:57 | <Timon> | Alowishus: It will first pick the tuner on the machine, then it will pick the tuner starting with 0 (in the db) |
| 00:57 | <tmk> | also, what does it mean when myth makes a 0 length file? |
| 00:59 | <ahbritto> | tmk: you can tell which devices are in use with lsof |
| 00:59 | <tmk> | thx |
| 01:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | possibly a problem getting data from your pvr-250, but not sure. any messages on the backend? |
| 01:00 | <ahbritto> | tmk: 'lsof /dev/video0' will show if myth has it open. |
| 01:00 | <tmk> | captain: yeah, I/O err |
| 01:00 | <tmk> | grr |
| 01:00 | <ahbritto> | tmk: I see zero length files when mythtv can not open the device or it returns i/o errs. |
| 01:00 | <tmk> | ah well |
| 01:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | tmk, email the ivtv author. <grin> |
| 01:01 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 01:01 | <tmk> | that lazy bum |
| 01:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah |
| 01:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | probably won't answer you. |
| 01:01 | <ahbritto> | My start up script does a 'head -c 1' on each /dev/videoX. And reloads the ivtv module till they all work. |
| 01:01 | <tmk> | hey, i answer most emails |
| 01:01 | <markw> | Alowishus: you use the firmware from the CD, or download updated firmware? |
| 01:01 | <tmk> | ahb: it recorded earlier today thoug |
| 01:01 | <ahbritto> | tmk: Do you test from cold start? |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | tmk, it stops sometimes =) |
| 01:02 | <tmk> | hehe i noticed |
| 01:02 | <Chutt> | very randomly for me |
| 01:02 | <tmk> | well i'll eventually fix it i think |
| 01:02 | <tmk> | i've become aware of a lot of little fixes |
| 01:02 | <tmk> | that i can do |
| 01:02 | <tmk> | and will do as soon as i get the decoder stuff working |
| 01:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | :) I had to use the old old firmware from my year-old CD to get rid of the wavy lines on mine. have tried every newer version and they all have it. |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | tmk, heh, find more things wrong once you start actually using it, eh? =) |
| 01:03 | <tmk> | nah, these were code issues that i just never had time to research |
| 01:03 | <markw> | Alowishus: ? |
| 01:03 | <tmk> | chutt: i can fix some of the deadlocks now |
| 01:03 | <tmk> | etc |
| 01:04 | <tmk> | and get rid of those sleep's in irq time heh |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | AC on the v4l list mentioned that there were some irq routing fixes for newer via chipsets in the latest 2.4.22-pre kernels |
| 01:04 | <tmk> | ooh |
| 01:04 | <tmk> | i'm sure that will make the via folks happy |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | not for old shit like the kt133, but.. |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | oh |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | well. |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | there's the occasional person that reports similar problems on kt266/kt400 based boards |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | i've been running myth over X11 forwarding from work |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | sloooow |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | wonder why :p |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | does mythfrontend just ocnnect to backend on a tcp port |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | or is there more to it |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | that's all |
| 01:06 | <Chutt> | mysql's over tcp as well, i believe |
| 01:06 | <tmk> | ah i could speed that up a lot |
| 01:06 | <tmk> | oh it does mysql also? |
| 01:06 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:06 | <Chutt> | separate connection |
| 01:06 | <tmk> | anything elsE? |
| 01:06 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 01:06 | <Chutt> | has to connect to mysql to find the backend, actually =) |
| 01:06 | <mikegrb> | when will the esp module be added |
| 01:07 | <mikegrb> | could handle those filesystem problems too |
| 01:07 | <tmk> | what's the possiblility of having a backend log window in the frontend |
| 01:07 | <tmk> | so you could see the errors somehow |
| 01:07 | <tmk> | if you're remote |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | wouldn't be hard |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | just take time to code up |
| 01:08 | <tmk> | well i want decoder working first |
| 01:08 | <tmk> | or i put back the audio whine! |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | i'm still pondering how to do the osd |
| 01:08 | <tmk> | ? |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | well, what colorspace it should be |
| 01:08 | <tmk> | ah |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | since you need argb |
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| 01:08 | <Chutt> | and software needs yv12 |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | and i've got no idea what the via mpeg decoder wants |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | probably yv12, though |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | really? |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | for osd? or for straight-thru |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | for the osd |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | i _think_ |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | hm |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | well if you want to render the main OSD as yn12 |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | yv12 rather |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | you could use that with ivtv |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | and then switch to RGB for the overlay stuff |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | ie channel #s etc |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | not sure if that's simpler programatically |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | i'm talkin 'bout the stuff that's blended into the video |
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| 01:12 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | the via stuff wants ai44 |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | it'd probably be easier to just generate in rgb internally |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | and convert over to the destination format |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | it doesn't take _that_ long, and i won't be doing it all that often, i suppose |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | for video |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | just whenever the screen's updated |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | do you make rgb? |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | no |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | it's all yv12 right now |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | cool |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | but the osd is generated every frame |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | you should be able to send that through ivtv |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | the video i mean |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | i'm not talking about displaying video |
| 01:15 | <tmk> | i know |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | according to the firmware api |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | the OSD is either an 8-bit indexed palette, or argb |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | i can't send it yv12 |
| 01:16 | <tmk> | ya i know |
| 01:16 | <tmk> | but if you generate it yv12 |
| 01:16 | <tmk> | you can send it as video |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | no i can't |
| 01:16 | <tmk> | whyfor not? |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | there's no alpha information |
| 01:16 | <markw> | arghh!!! |
| 01:16 | <tmk> | eh? |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | and it can decode mpg _and_ display sent data at the same time? |
| 01:16 | <tmk> | nono |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | exactly :p |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | send the main OSD stuff (ie main menu) as yuv |
| 01:17 | | * markw beats on his pvr-250 |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | that's not the osd. |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | oh, ok |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | nevermind then |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | why beat your 250? |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | [01:06] <Chutt> i'm talkin 'bout the stuff that's blended into the video |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | see, that :p |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | ohhhhhhhh |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | that |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | heh |
| 01:17 | <tmk> | doesn't it have a chroma-key option or smth |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | not from your firmware docs |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | oh, nevermind |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | it does |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | but that's not nice spiffy blending |
| 01:18 | <tmk> | there's a global alpha |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | again, not nice spiffy blending |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 01:19 | <tmk> | sure it is, but only if you want to fade-in/out |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | if you want everything the same |
| 01:19 | <tmk> | right |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | i suppose i'll be rewriting a lot of code. |
| 01:20 | <tmk> | :, |
| 01:20 | <tmk> | :< |
| 01:20 | <tmk> | don't you have minions for that? |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | i'm off to watch some soccer on the tv-out |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | boo-ya |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | glad i wrote that code ;) |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | on the plus side, i'll be able to do higher quality colored text |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | make it decode and encode at the same time |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | working on it |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | i'll be doing that now actually |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | just on different cards ;) |
| 01:25 | <tmk> | err i take that back |
| 01:25 | <tmk> | it locked heh |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 04:26 | <markw> | xmltv seems broken with directv |
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| 07:06 | <_rkulagow> | mdz, you here? |
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| 08:30 | <mdz> | rkulagow: I am now |
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| 08:47 | <rkulagow> | mdz: baby time. bbl. |
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| 09:32 | <jkolb> | He timed out a while ago. |
| 09:33 | <thor_> | ah ... real work probably |
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| 10:17 | <o_cee> | weh |
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| 10:39 | <o_cee> | seems like the cvs is dead? |
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| 11:52 | <oc> | hmm... |
| 11:55 | <kja> | arg, cvs server is down...again... |
| 11:56 | <oc> | yeh :/ |
| 11:56 | <kja> | does anyone here have access to it? |
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| 11:56 | <oc> | there you go |
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| 12:03 | <kja> | sfr: do you have access to the cvs server? it's down again.. |
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| 12:04 | <sfr> | kja let me check... |
| 12:05 | <sfr> | hm, cvs doesn't let me in |
| 12:06 | <just1nux> | was just wondering the same thing, i cant get in either. |
| 12:07 | <kja> | no one has shell access to it? |
| 12:07 | <kja> | only Chutt? |
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| 12:13 | <kja> | bah, needed a couple of files from it...i'll just work on something else then |
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| 12:17 | <kja> | sfr: could you mail me libs/libmythtv/dvb* from your checkout? |
| 12:18 | <sfr> | kja if you don't mind if it's about 1 week old. what's your address? |
| 12:19 | <kja> | no problemo, they have not changed in like a month or so (ke-aa at frisurf.no) |
| 12:19 | <kja> | thanks a lot!! |
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| 12:21 | <ByteNik> | When I start LiveTV in Myth, all I see is a black screen. |
| 12:21 | <ByteNik> | No error messages. But mplayer can watch my capture just fine. |
| 12:22 | <jkolb> | Check your audio device. |
| 12:22 | <ByteNik> | For video?? |
| 12:23 | <sfr> | kja on the way |
| 12:24 | <ByteNik> | I don't get audio either if that's what you mean... |
| 12:24 | <kja> | thanks, will probably take a little while (those viruses are really raging) |
| 12:24 | <sfr> | ByteNik that's why you don't get video :) |
| 12:24 | <ByteNik> | But it works in mplayer |
| 12:24 | <kja> | nope, it was fast :) |
| 12:25 | <o_cee> | ByteNik: just check your audio, that's the problem. |
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| 12:31 | <ByteNik> | k fixed |
| 12:31 | <ByteNik> | I get picture, but its jerky and stopple-y, and is probably because I supposidly don't have Xt support |
| 12:31 | <ByteNik> | Are there radeon drivers that support Xt? |
| 12:32 | <o_cee> | radeon+tvout = no no |
| 12:32 | <o_cee> | don't know about the other things |
| 12:32 | <ByteNik> | ?? |
| 12:32 | <sfr> | ByteNik s/Xt/Xv (nitpickin) |
| 12:32 | <ByteNik> | Hmm |
| 12:33 | <o_cee> | read the myth documentation |
| 12:33 | <o_cee> | it's all there |
| 12:33 | <ByteNik> | It doesn't mention specific cards though. |
| 12:33 | <o_cee> | it mentions radeon |
| 12:33 | <ByteNik> | And I'm not talking about the TV-out... I mean the monitor screen, it doesn't support Xv? |
| 12:33 | <o_cee> | not sure. |
| 12:33 | <ByteNik> | O... Oh, wait |
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| 12:34 | <ByteNik> | The card is tri head... I have a DVI and a VGA port |
| 12:34 | <ByteNik> | The DVI port can be converted into a VGA port |
| 12:34 | <ByteNik> | You think maybe the DVI has Xv but not the VGA? |
| 12:34 | <o_cee\food> | it's driver-related as far as i know |
| 12:34 | <o_cee\food> | off to get some food |
| 12:34 | <ByteNik> | o |
| 12:34 | <ByteNik> | kk |
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| 13:00 | <sfr> | Chutt welcome, master of the cvs |
| 13:01 | <Chutt> | power was out |
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| 13:03 | <kja> | again? |
| 13:03 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 13:03 | <Chutt> | just a local problem |
| 13:03 | <o_cee> | hey Chutt |
| 13:03 | <kja> | ahh, not the whole east coast this time :) |
| 13:04 | <ByteNik> | lol... Does Xv have to be compiled into the kernel somehow? |
| 13:04 | <o_cee> | ByteNik: your gfx driver needs to have it. and you need to enable it in the xconfig |
| 13:04 | <ByteNik> | Hmm... well, apparently both gatos and fglrx support it |
| 13:05 | <ByteNik> | How do I enable it in my config? |
| 13:05 | <o_cee> | make sure there's Load GLX or something in the xfconfig |
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| 13:07 | <ByteNik> | I see # === Video Overlay for the Xv extention === |
| 13:07 | <ByteNik> | Option "VideoOverlay" "on" |
| 13:07 | <ByteNik> | Is that it? |
| 13:08 | <ByteNik> | O wait |
| 13:08 | <ByteNik> | I see Load "glx" |
| 13:08 | <ByteNik> | So it is in there |
| 13:09 | <ByteNik> | Anything else needed to enable Xv? |
| 13:10 | <Chutt> | buy a video card with real drivers |
| 13:11 | <ByteNik> | If I get infinite funds, I'll buy one first thing. :P |
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| 13:22 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: is there a specific location in the myth how-to where I should, or shouldn't place information about HDTV configuration? |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | ask rkulagow =) |
| 13:28 | <bbeattie> | rkulagow is over the docs? |
| 13:29 | <Chutt> | yeah |
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| 13:32 | <mikekedl> | Good day all. |
| 13:33 | <mikekedl> | I have been thinking about adding something to mythweb to control frontends to start a show from the recorded page, to start a music playlist, to start a video, etc. |
| 13:34 | <mikekedl> | In fact, I have modified mythfrontend and mythweb2 to allow this to work for testing.... |
| 13:34 | <mikekedl> | I'm using a socket to do the communication. |
| 13:34 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 13:34 | <mikekedl> | I'm just wondering if anyone here has opinions about the "best" way to do this. The mythweb writer and or Isaac around? |
| 13:35 | <sfr> | :) |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | i'm isaac |
| 13:35 | <mikekedl> | kewl beans |
| 13:35 | <mikekedl> | the way I did this for testing isn't the best way I think |
| 13:35 | <mikekedl> | because I don't understand the way everything interacts yet |
| 13:36 | <mikekedl> | for instance, I see that playbackbox is normally where a recording is started from right? |
| 13:36 | <Chutt> | right |
| 13:36 | <mikekedl> | but I see no easy way (yet) to kick this off when a request comes in via socket |
| 13:36 | <mikekedl> | so I copied some of the code and start the "tv" playing in my socket code |
| 13:37 | <mikekedl> | but this means that I can't interact with the recording (pause/ff/rew/exit) |
| 13:37 | <Chutt> | right |
| 13:37 | <Chutt> | i'm not really sure how best to do that |
| 13:37 | <Chutt> | haven't thought about it at all |
| 13:38 | <mikekedl> | I currently use x2x to control the machine in the living room more than I use the wireless keyboard or remote |
| 13:38 | <mikekedl> | and I usually use mythweb to check on whats on and to set recordings |
| 13:38 | <mikekedl> | so I was thinking about extending it to start the shows via web as well... |
| 13:38 | <mikekedl> | (sorry, I have my laptop sitting on the arm of the couch, so it is very "handy") |
| 13:39 | <mikekedl> | 1) do you think I should pursue starting the "normal" playbackbox to play a show? |
| 13:40 | <mikekedl> | 2) as well, start the "normal" music/video plugins |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | that'd probably make the most sense from an end-users perspective |
| 13:40 | <mikekedl> | 3) or should I go down the path I'm on and make a new "player" (seems like redundant code) |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | like, if they select some music to play |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | it should go to the music plugin and start playing from there |
| 13:40 | <mikekedl> | thats what I thought |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | so |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | to do that |
| 13:40 | <mikekedl> | I just can't quickly see how to "launch" them |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | well |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | there's only a certain number of actions |
| 13:41 | <mikekedl> | is there already something "there" all the time that can tell different plugins what to do? |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | so all you need is a way to exit out of the current thing that it's doing |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | and start the different screen |
| 13:42 | <mikekedl> | is there already something "in back" that is listening for commands? and could be the one to know "music" is playing; stop it; start video xxx |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | will, of course, require new code |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | the main window knows what the top level window's name is |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | and can probably be used to control all this |
| 13:43 | <mikekedl> | currently, only one program can be open at a time right? except for mythdvd which now seems to be a daemon |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | each plugin could register a list of actions it can perform |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | right, only one at a time |
| 13:43 | <mikekedl> | hmmm |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | mythdvd's not a daemon, only the ripping portion is |
| 13:43 | <mikekedl> | thats what I mean |
| 13:43 | <mikekedl> | so it can "continue" |
| 13:43 | <mikekedl> | while you play music, watch tv, etc |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | right, that's the only thing that can be backgrounded like that |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | cd ripping will eventually as well |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | and music playing, most likely |
| 13:44 | <mikekedl> | music should probably follow (playback) |
| 13:44 | <mikekedl> | I guess I'm afraid to "kill" whatever gui is in front when I start something else |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | well |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | each gui will need a function to tell it to exit, is all |
| 13:45 | <mikekedl> | but... since most people will be "looking" at the machine they are sending commands to, it won't be that bad |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | like if you're watching something and you want to switch to music real fast |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | it'd tell the playback thing to exit, then tell the playback selection screen to exit |
| 13:45 | <mikekedl> | if I was editting a cutlist, I wouldn't want you to tell my machine to start playing a video; but that wouldn't really happen in real life |
| 13:46 | <sfr> | mikekedl cool idea, i imagine a new toy for the kids |
| 13:46 | <Chutt> | then it's back at the main menu |
| 13:47 | <sfr> | you could block the remote during certain actions |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | right |
| 13:47 | <mikekedl> | true |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | have it send back a message saying it can't do that yet |
| 13:47 | <mikekedl> | yeah |
| 13:48 | <sfr> | s/block/ask for confirmation from the user |
| 13:48 | <mikekedl> | I like just getting the answer back to the sender |
| 13:48 | <mikekedl> | rather than a popup |
| 13:48 | <mikekedl> | and could add a "force" option so they could resend it if they REALLY mean it |
| 13:50 | <mikekedl> | any plans to make "everything" run in the "background"? like mythvideo, tv of course, dvd ripping works, dvd playback, music playback; so you can easily leave and return to everything and have it still running where you left it |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | most of the stuff there really isn't a need for |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | but music playback would be nice |
| 13:52 | <mikekedl> | and ripping like you mentioned before |
| 13:53 | <mikekedl> | would be nice to be able to leave video/recording/dvd playback, start something else (like ripping, schedule a show, look at the tv guide, etc.) and quickly get back right where you are; I know you can sortof do this with bookmarks.... |
| 13:54 | <mikekedl> | but you still have to rechoose the recording, and it doesn't work with other stuff |
| 13:55 | <mikekedl> | since some things are already headed that way; I just wondered if you (or me ;-)) are going to go down the path to make everything "backgroundable" |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | i wasn't planning on it |
| 14:00 | <mikekedl> | could mostly be handled with some simple rights management; so if someone is ripping a dvd, and someone else wants to mess with the cd ripper it would say "CD drive in use by 'DVD RIP'; Cancel 'DVD RIP'?" or if a plugin is playing music and a program tries to playback a video or recording or dvd it wouldd say "Audio in use by 'MUSIC PLAYBACK'; Cancel 'MUSIC PLAYBACK'?" etc. (rights for cd/dvd drive, video, audio might be |
| 14:00 | <mikekedl> | enough?) |
| 14:01 | <mikekedl> | (I know you can just check for blocked io paths, but this is "nicer" to the user |
| 14:01 | <mikekedl> | ) |
| 14:05 | <mikekedl> | oops, I've pissed him off now... |
| 14:07 | <sfr> | uh, me? |
| 14:07 | <mikekedl> | ? |
| 14:11 | <mikekedl> | well, thanks for the info; I'll look into it 2nite hopefully |
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| 14:40 | <zzo> | so anyone try to stream a hdtv feed to a remote frontend from a pcHDTV?? |
| 14:40 | <zzo> | I assume that works? |
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| 14:43 | <zzo> | so anyone stream htdv from a pcHDTV to a remote frontend? |
| 14:44 | <zzo> | is that a big fat no? |
| 14:44 | <sfr> | zzo i read your question already, just don't hava a pcHDTV, sorry. |
| 14:44 | <sfr> | patience is a virtue, or so |
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| 14:45 | <berli> | anyone have audio problems using mythtv 0.11 ? (no, i'm not using wintv PVR) |
| 14:45 | <mikekedl2> | sorry, apparently my IRC client puked |
| 14:45 | <mikekedl2> | my audio is fine; my "watch recording" previews are jerky though ;-) |
| 14:46 | <keturn> | I don't suppose there's an lirc channel? |
| 14:47 | <mikekedl2> | don't know if anyone said anything else to me after my long "device rights control" spheel |
| 14:47 | <berli> | mikekedl2: that's always been too lagged for me to use, i do the still-image preview |
| 14:47 | <mikekedl2> | I do on my laptop; used to work fine on my 100Mb machine |
| 14:48 | <mikekedl2> | (laptop only has 10Mb or "54"Mb wireless) |
| 14:48 | <mikekedl2> | ((sorry, "11"Mb ;-))) |
| 14:48 | <berli> | mikekedl2: you're lucky to get 6Mb in reality |
| 14:50 | <mikekedl2> | yeah, "54"Mb I get 15 or so thruput |
| 14:50 | <mikekedl2> | it works fine |
| 14:50 | <kja> | Chutt: I still see misdetections in the Auto. Audio code, would it make sense to make sure there's two consecutive frames before changing the settings? |
| 14:51 | <mikekedl2> | berli: "11"Mb rides a thin line and usually dies after a while |
| 14:51 | <berli> | mikekedl2: i can't run a myth stream over it. I run mine over 100Mb LAN |
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| 14:52 | <mikekedl2> | berli: thats what my living room machine does to the backend in the den |
| 14:52 | <mikekedl2> | berli: and the previews were fine until .11+; no big deal though |
| 14:52 | <berli> | mikekedl2: I think my PC's are too slow for previews. Maybe i'm just too impatient to wait for them to load. I run two 400Mhz pII's |
| 14:53 | <mikekedl2> | ah |
| 14:53 | <mikekedl2> | my frontend is 533Mhz celeron; just good enough |
| 14:53 | <mikekedl2> | backend is 866Mhz celeron |
| 14:53 | <berli> | mikekedl2: my other frontend is an xbox |
| 14:53 | <mikekedl2> | work ok? I've never talked to anyone who was running it as such |
| 14:54 | <mikekedl2> | and running linux? |
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| 14:54 | <berli> | mikekedl2: yeah, it's running linux and it works very well |
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| 14:54 | <mikekedl2> | berli: kewl; I wanted to put linux on my ps2, but costs like $150 and I heard X works Very badly... |
| 14:55 | <berli> | mikekedl2: no experience with ps2. I bought the xbox solely for mythtv, I don't own any games for it. |
| 14:55 | <mikekedl2> | wow |
| 14:55 | <zzo> | i was just wondering if anyone has the frontend running on ps2 |
| 14:55 | <FryGuy> | that's dedication :) |
| 14:55 | <mikekedl2> | zzo: I though about it; but heard it would be very hard to make work well because of the ps2 arch; never even bought the linux stuff yet |
| 14:56 | <mikekedl2> | zzo: maybe when ps3 comes out ;-) |
| 14:56 | <zzo> | even better get it running on the portable playstation coming out |
| 14:57 | <mikekedl2> | berli: so $200 for an xbox and how hard / $$ to get linux/myth up and going? |
| 14:57 | <berli> | mikekedl2: i bought $150 xbox, $60 mod-chip and $30 remote |
| 14:57 | <mikekedl2> | berli: and how hard to upgrade when every new myth release comes out? |
| 14:58 | <mikekedl2> | berli: not bad; $210-$250 after shipping and tax... |
| 14:58 | <berli> | mikekedl2: it's easy, just like any other system, it's running a "gentoo" distribution |
| 14:58 | <berli> | mikekedl2: free shipping, no tax! |
| 14:58 | <mikekedl2> | kewl |
| 14:58 | <mikekedl2> | supply your own hd? or use theirs? |
| 14:58 | <zzo> | isn't there a network adaptor kit ya gotta buy too? |
| 14:59 | <mikekedl2> | berli: maybe a reason to get an xbox; and make $soft lose some more money by selling below cost ;-) |
| 15:00 | <berli> | generic howto here: http://wiki.raschnet.com/index.php/XboxHacking |
| 15:01 | <berli> | mikekedl2: no networking adapter required, built in HD is sufficient |
| 15:01 | <mikekedl2> | berli: it comes with network? or you don't use one? |
| 15:01 | <berli> | mikekedl2: comes with network built in |
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| 15:01 | <mikekedl2> | k |
| 15:05 | <zzo> | hm.. interestink |
| 15:07 | <zzo> | can the xbox controller be used as an input device/mouse? |
| 15:10 | <berli> | zzo: xbox controller works as mouse and joystick |
| 15:10 | <berli> | zzo: it can be used with mythgame, etc as a joystick. the remote can generate keyboard codes |
| 15:11 | <zzo> | wow - awesome - can a regular keyboard be plugged in somewhere as well? |
| 15:11 | <berli> | zzo: the front ports are really usb ports, but you'll have to fashion, or buy a dongle to a normal usb connector. a keyboard can be connected to the front through usb |
| 15:12 | <mikekedl2> | how fast is the xbox? compared to a p3 or p4 |
| 15:13 | <berli> | xbox is 733 celeron |
| 15:13 | <mikekedl2> | berli: so how much would you charge to send me a complete xbox/myth system already setup? |
| 15:13 | <berli> | mikekedl2: probably 50% on top of parts |
| 15:14 | <mikekedl2> | so like $300? |
| 15:14 | <berli> | something like that |
| 15:14 | <mikekedl2> | very tempting |
| 15:14 | <berli> | more like 350 |
| 15:14 | <mikekedl2> | I would love to have time to get the xbox, apply mod chip, install linux, gentoo, myth; but hard to find the time |
| 15:14 | <mikekedl2> | $350 is still not bad |
| 15:15 | <berli> | mikekedl2: it has a big "wow" factor when people come over |
| 15:15 | <Rule> | hehe I just researched the hardware for my new box and I come out around 600 euros |
| 15:15 | <mikekedl2> | obviously easier for you since you have already done it |
| 15:15 | <mikekedl2> | how much is 600 eu in US$? |
| 15:15 | <Rule> | a bit more |
| 15:15 | <berli> | 700ish? |
| 15:15 | <Rule> | 640 or so |
| 15:15 | <mikekedl2> | course this is only 733Mhz celeron, I bet you were getting more ;-) |
| 15:16 | <FryGuy> | do you need to do a mod-chip on the xbox anymore? |
| 15:16 | <mikekedl2> | can you flip a switch and and still boot and play xbox games? |
| 15:16 | <Rule> | nah I'm going via c3 |
| 15:16 | <FryGuy> | i thought there was a buffer overflow in the cd-player thing |
| 15:16 | <berli> | mikekedl2: you can play xbox games without a switch |
| 15:16 | <mikekedl2> | berli: very very tempting |
| 15:17 | <berli> | mikekedl2: however, you have to disable the chip by rebooting the xbox with the drive open and then you can play xbox-live |
| 15:17 | <Rule> | wow dollar is real low... more like 666 dollars |
| 15:17 | <berli> | mikekedl2: if you play xbox-live w/ a modchip you'll be banned |
| 15:17 | <mikekedl2> | berli: ug |
| 15:17 | <FryGuy> | that's stupid |
| 15:17 | <berli> | FryGuy: I think you may be right. I'm not as versed in this situation. |
| 15:17 | <FryGuy> | i mean, it's not like you're pirating games |
| 15:17 | <berli> | FryGuy: violating the license agreement though |
| 15:18 | <mikekedl2> | berli: booting with the drive open disables the chip? |
| 15:18 | <berli> | MS doesn't care about your freedom |
| 15:18 | <Rule> | iirc a vulnerability allowed exacution of arbitrary code withour modchip... |
| 15:18 | <FryGuy> | it's not illegal to put a mod chip on your xbox |
| 15:18 | <berli> | mikekedl2: i think that's the way you do it. I know you can, not positive that's the procedure. |
| 15:18 | <berli> | FryGuy: it's illegal to play xbox-live with a chip, according to license agreement |
| 15:20 | <berli> | Rule: I believe you're correct. Again, I haven't tried this, when I started all that was out was the 007 save-game trick which involved: 1. renting the game, 2. buying a memory card, 3. a pain in the butt |
| 15:20 | <FryGuy> | 1.2 The Dashboard method |
| 15:20 | <FryGuy> | Another malfunction in the Dashboard, the application that runs when there is no game in the DVD drive, makes it possible run Linux every time you turn on the Xbox - instead of the Dashboard, Linux will be started. By using the 007/Mechassault methods to install the Dashboard modification, you only have to use the game DVD once, from that time on, Linux will always run when there is no game in the |
| 15:20 | <FryGuy> | DVD drive - and you don't ever have to open the Xbox. You can even eject the DVD when booting from hard disk. |
| 15:20 | <Rule> | http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/down/MechInstaller-README.txt |
| 15:20 | <Rule> | allows for installing multiboot |
| 15:21 | <berli> | sound pretty cool. Probably can save the 60 on the modchip then |
| 15:21 | <Rule> | seems like it, yes |
| 15:22 | <mikekedl2> | no mod chip would be nicer |
| 15:23 | <FryGuy> | the mod chip is $60? |
| 15:23 | <FryGuy> | wow. |
| 15:24 | <FryGuy> | you still need to rent/borrow one of those two games and get a memory card |
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| 15:24 | <FryGuy> | i wonder if you can take the hard drive out and copy it with your pc |
| 15:24 | <Rule> | don't think so |
| 15:25 | <FryGuy> | i mean the save games |
| 15:25 | <Rule> | borrow the memcard |
| 15:25 | <Rule> | if you're going to play games you might like one maybe |
| 15:25 | <Rule> | not sure what it's for |
| 15:26 | <berli> | FryGuy: this doesn't get around the 'signed-code' issue alone, I don't think. |
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| 15:26 | <marc> | good evening everybody... |
| 15:27 | <Rule> | hewwo |
| 15:27 | <marc> | would someone happen to have an XF86Config-4 for X4.3.99.10 and an M10000? |
| 15:27 | <marc> | Know this is not entirely the right place, but many folks seem to use that board... |
| 15:27 | <marc> | and it's Mythtv I want to make work here ;-) |
| 15:28 | <Rule> | :) |
| 15:28 | <Rule> | they're out there if you google for it |
| 15:28 | <Rule> | next board is going to be an M10000 |
| 15:28 | <marc> | thought so |
| 15:29 | <marc> | but none precisely for 4.3.99.10, and working. |
| 15:29 | <marc> | all kinds of combination of patches, downloaded drivers etc. |
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| 16:13 | <ByteNik> | what is the package for dual head again? |
| 16:13 | <ByteNik> | i forget the name |
| 16:17 | <Rule> | you mean Xinerama ? |
| 16:17 | <ByteNik> | Yep, thanks |
| 16:17 | <Rule> | np |
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| 16:20 | <mikekedl2> | Does anyone know if a GEForce2 V7700 Deluxe work with tv capture? A friend of mine has one. I know there are issues with ATI all-in-1... |
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| 16:59 | <zzo> | gentoo mythdvd build barf: main.cpp:97: `myth_system' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 16:59 | <zzo> | what's that all about? |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | you don't have a recent enough libmyth installed. |
| 17:00 | <tmk> | sup chutt |
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| 17:03 | <Chutt> | tmk, hi |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | people are stupid. |
| 17:03 | <tmk> | what?! |
| 17:03 | | * tmk is floored |
| 17:04 | <tmk> | i just found a bug where i set the dma_handle AFTER sending the dma request |
| 17:04 | <tmk> | and i wondered why it was broken... |
| 17:05 | <tmk> | the worst kind of people are those that tell you all about their problems |
| 17:06 | <tmk> | and assume they've found something that i'm REALLY REALLY interested in |
| 17:06 | <tmk> | when it's like the first question in the FAQ |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | i hate it when people question what i tell them to do |
| 17:06 | <tmk> | haha yeah i've noticed that |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | and then proceed to spell my name wrong |
| 17:07 | <tmk> | that double-a get's em everytime |
| 17:08 | <tmk> | you know anyone who's good at kernel debugging? I've found a few debuggers, but they all say "requires redhat 6.0" |
| 17:08 | <tmk> | or something ridiculous |
| 17:09 | <kja> | Chutt: I still see problems with the audio detection code, would it be wise to check that two consecutive frames are equal, before changing the settings? |
| 17:09 | <ahbritto> | tmk: #kernel-newbies might be a good place to ask. |
| 17:09 | <zzo> | i just emerged mythtv-0.11 - do i need myth cvs for mythdvd .11? |
| 17:10 | <zzo> | how can: g++ -o mtd main.o -Wl,-rpath,/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lmyth-0.11 -lqt-mt -lpthread -lXext -lX11 -lm |
| 17:10 | <zzo> | be loading the wrong version of mythlib?? |
| 17:12 | <zzo> | must be a header problem |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | kja, sure |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | zzo, you may have an old set of headers installed somewhere |
| 17:19 | <zzo> | sure enough, good old gcc checking /usr/local/include before /usr/include - vunderbar - it compiled now tanx |
| 17:20 | <zzo> | gotta love the same questions over and over and over and ... |
| 17:27 | <kja> | Where do you host your cvs, Isaac? |
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| 17:34 | <markw> | ok, quick questions here... /dev/video seems to be a symlink to /dev/video0 which is maj 81 minor 0, is that right? |
| 17:34 | | * markw is fighting an ivtv card. |
| 17:34 | <kja> | Chutt: aii, the code i just sent does not check if the first frame is equal to the second... |
| 17:36 | <ahbritto> | markw: You might have better luck on #ivtv-dev |
| 17:38 | <kja> | markw: sure |
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| 17:59 | <mdz_> | tmk: tried kgdb? |
| 18:00 | <mdz_> | tmk: there's also a patch to debug PCI device drivers using UML, but I don't know if it supports DMA |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | mdz: yeah that's what i'm leaning towards |
| 18:07 | <kja> | Q: What's the best 80GB/7200/8MB/ATA133 drive out there (one of my raid drives are saying godbye soon:)? |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | but the homepage said it requres redhat 6.1 or something |
| 18:09 | <zzo> | i think a maxtor 9 is your only ata133 choice - they're great drives i think |
| 18:10 | <kja> | I was looking around today, and was pondering to buy one of those. |
| 18:10 | <kja> | Have you had it for a long time? |
| 18:10 | <kja> | s/buy/buying |
| 18:11 | <zzo> | i've got a couple matxor 9s - had 'em for prolly between 2-6 months no problem & good speeds |
| 18:11 | <kja> | I've had IBM Deskstar 120GXP's in that array for now, but one of them is making really creapy noises :) |
| 18:12 | <zzo> | i had a 80gxp barf on me - there was a class action lawsuit vs. ibm for those drives too |
| 18:12 | <kja> | Cool, I'll take your word for it and order one! |
| 18:12 | <kja> | Yea, I heard of that, but never got the results |
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| 18:13 | <zzo> | the maxtor's are quiet too - think the ibm case is still pending but it made it to court |
| 18:14 | <kja> | I'm going to argue a refund offcourse :) (Just don't want my raid1 array to go down) |
| 18:14 | <kja> | Nice, maybe I'll swap all of my drives (a 45G, 60G, and two 80G) |
| 18:14 | <zzo> | welp that's the whole purpose of raid in the first place - lose a drive & keep going... |
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| 18:15 | <zzo> | live it up - wait lemmie buy maxtor stock first... |
| 18:15 | <kja> | yea, but I don't have enough drives to make a raid 5 array (which I wanna do) |
| 18:16 | <kja> | out of my 80G drives that is |
| 18:16 | <zzo> | raid 1 is fully mirrored rite? raid 0 just shares the data across 2 drives ya? can never keep all the raid levels straight |
| 18:16 | <kja> | ups, sorry, meant raid0 - striping |
| 18:17 | <kja> | got a promise fasttrak sx4000 under redhat 9, works like a charm, and wonderfull performance |
| 18:18 | <zzo> | myth-effecting performance? i though myth was cpu bound?? |
| 18:20 | <kja> | it's in my server (2xAthlon MP2.4k), as storage/recording/source, so it helps with everything :) |
| 18:21 | <zzo> | jay-zus that's a serious myth box! |
| 18:21 | <kja> | my mythbox is @ home.no/mythbox :) |
| 18:22 | <kja> | the server has the backend+dvb card |
| 18:25 | <zzo> | yah i got a shuttle mythbackend too - mine's just a sk41g (kt333) |
| 18:27 | <zzo> | o the shuttle is just yer frontend - the server is the box that should have a webpage! |
| 18:27 | <kja> | cool, just ordered two of those drives, was pretty cheap |
| 18:27 | <kja> | you think? :) |
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| 18:28 | <zzo> | yah hope it was less than $1/GB that's where ya wanna be - but it's a solid drive |
| 18:30 | <kja> | it was around there (roughly converted from norwegian kroner to us $), was almost the cheapest I could find (the cheapest was out of stock) |
| 18:32 | <zzo> | we shoulda bartered the drives for oil - gas prices are thru the roof here! - still cheaper than europe tho but maybe not norway |
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| 18:34 | <kja> | Everything is pretty expensive here...but we got very good health/retirement/etc. plans |
| 18:34 | <zzo> | ya pay serious taxes for that i bet but it's all a wash prolly in the end |
| 18:35 | | * zzo just babbling |
| 18:37 | <kja> | yea, the only problem is that all the rich people move their funds out of the country :) |
| 18:38 | <kja> | Chutt: You wanna add a second set of DVB code to CVS, getting really bored with all the arguing with Ben :) |
| 18:45 | <kja> | zzo: you happy with your shuttle? |
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| 18:51 | <zzo> | eh... it runs hotter than i hoped - also is a little noisier than i hoped - how about the nforce2? i'm thinking about getting that one |
| 18:51 | <zzo> | for another project... |
| 18:51 | <zzo> | can get one for $250 these days, seems like a pretty good deal |
| 18:55 | <kja> | had to swap that noisy fan for a higher quality one, and use some other thermal paste, and been good since (hoovers @ 44* with the fan-control between low/middle) |
| 18:56 | <markw> | ahbritto: looks like I had a bad card. |
| 18:56 | <kja> | the only thing i don't like now, is that square shape. would like something a little more hi-fi like |
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| 18:57 | <kja> | on-board tv-out is very good though |
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| 18:58 | <zzo> | yah the shape can be 'sexier' certainly - hmmm i'll look into the new fan & thermal paste situation - what kinda paste did you use? |
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| 19:00 | <kja> | was just some leftover from a fan purchase (don't remember the name), any kind is better than that goop they put in :) |
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| 19:00 | <zzo> | i don't think my shuttle has a manual fan control - haven't looked @ it in a while - it just sits there baking away |
| 19:01 | <markw> | ok, encoder is in... now to get a directv receiver working via serial port. :) |
| 19:01 | <zzo> | is it an 80mm fan back there? |
| 19:01 | <kja> | there is automatic fan control in the bios on mine, don't know bout yours |
| 19:02 | <kja> | yea, standard case fan |
| 19:02 | <zzo> | cool, will swap that out 4 sure - just need time |
| 19:02 | <kja> | i also put some rubber between the case and that heatsink, also helped some (not so much as the fan thogh) |
| 19:03 | <kja> | s/thogh/though |
| 19:03 | <markw> | anyone doing directv? |
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| 19:04 | <zzo> | i'm using directv BUT i use a leftover redrat - works great - esp since my directv receivers don't have a serial/low-speed input |
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| 19:06 | <kja> | and sfr joins us for the third time in the last 10 minutes (problems sfr?) :) |
| 19:08 | <sfr> | kja hehe, not really, just fixing my X setup with two displays, hm, maybe i shouldn't click on 'connect' instinctivelly |
| 19:09 | <kja> | good card? |
| 19:09 | <sfr> | matrox g400 |
| 19:10 | <kja> | ahh, had a matrox back when it was millenium II, the best 2D card ever :) |
| 19:10 | <sfr> | but i'd been using a faulty .xsession for way too long now |
| 19:11 | | * sfr leaves finally (time to sleep) |
| 19:11 | <kja> | hacks & tweaks everywhere? |
| 19:11 | <kja> | nite sfr! |
| 19:12 | <sfr> | no, just wrong settings, night kja |
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| 19:14 | | * kja wonders why his g'card setup is in .xsession |
| 19:21 | <Chutt> | kja, are you going to send a new audio detection diff, then? |
| 19:21 | <Chutt> | and it's 955 people |
| 19:21 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | 1352 on -users |
| 19:22 | <kja> | yea, if you feel like it's necessary to check the parameters, sure |
| 19:23 | <kja> | that many, coool!! |
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| 19:24 | <kja> | btw, i do feel like that is necessary |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | so, yeah, i'd like it if it checked for two the same in a row |
| 19:27 | <tmk> | hey folks, question for those of you with PVR cards |
| 19:27 | <tmk> | what resolution/stream settings do you use? |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | 480x480, bitrate of 4.5/6 |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | everything else the default |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | generally looks really nice on the tv |
| 19:27 | <tmk> | wow that's way lower than mine |
| 19:27 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 19:28 | <tmk> | i'm at ivtv default still heh |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | the defaults are way too high |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 19:28 | <kja> | Chutt: sure, i'll wrap that up soon |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | lower res + lower bitrate make it use less cpu to decode |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | and as the box that's hooked up to the tv is a mini-itx, it needs all the help it can get :p |
| 19:29 | <tmk> | 720x480 8/16 here |
| 19:30 | <tmk> | Chutt: i use hardware decoding :P |
| 19:31 | <tmk> | question: my box is slow, but it still seems to take a second or so to select each option in the menu |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | why's that? |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | i'm running 1024x768 .. |
| 19:33 | <kja> | transcode mpeg2 -> divx5 @ 20-23fps, is that good (what is a normal rate)? |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | tmk, that's why, really |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | if you run the UI at 800x600, it'd be quite a bit faster |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | what's best res? 640? |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | k i'll give that a shot |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | kja: you using a pvr card? |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | 640x480's faster as well, but 800x600's the native res of all the graphics |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | seems wierd that it would take a full second |
| 19:35 | <Chutt> | that's what happens when xrender falls back to crappy software blending |
| 19:35 | <Chutt> | i really should use something else for drawing |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | what's it blending? |
| 19:35 | <kja> | nope, dvb, but records mpeg2 |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | ah |
| 19:35 | <Chutt> | tmk, all the ui elements =) |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | wierd, they're not just pics? |
| 19:36 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 19:36 | <tmk> | Chutt: do you know if transcode can handle the PVR mpg' |
| 19:36 | <tmk> | s |
| 19:36 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | haven't tried it |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | i'll check the list |
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| 19:37 | <Chutt> | you've seen the same reports as i have that these .mpg files are.. odd, though, right? |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | it puts the stream size as the smaller of the VBR settings |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | and for some reason most encoders treat it as CBR |
| 19:37 | <kja> | tmk: thought the pvr mpeg2 was like any mpeg2? |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | and get confused |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | evidently it's different enough to confuse transcoders |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | arpi or whomever seems to think rev2 of mplayer will be happier |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | and then mencoder will work |
| 19:39 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:39 | <Chutt> | yeah, right. |
| 19:39 | <tmk> | :) |
| 19:39 | <kja> | that crappy libdvbdev does somewhat the same thing, but transcode can take the options right? |
| 19:40 | <bline> | what calles QTime::setHMS or QDate::setYMD on mythbackend startup? |
| 19:41 | <Chutt> | probably something reading from the database |
| 19:42 | <zzo> | bline: bust out cscope |
| 19:45 | <kja> | Chutt: You remeber that post i did on the pvr bitrate? |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | you were asking about the /2 i do there, right? |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | the only time that should be used is if there isn't a seektable |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | and as there should always be a seektable.... |
| 19:46 | <bline> | grep didn't turn up setHMS |
| 19:46 | <tmk> | send it home without supper then |
| 19:47 | <bline> | a friend of mine is getting Qt warnings from it |
| 19:47 | <tmk> | that'll teach it |
| 19:47 | <bline> | and his guide isn't working, so I guess it's related |
| 19:47 | <Chutt> | bline, QDateTime::fromString() |
| 19:48 | <kja> | Chutt: Why do that seektable for mpeg2 files, when we could to some private data in the stream? |
| 19:48 | <Chutt> | why not? |
| 19:48 | <bline> | Chutt: thanks |
| 19:48 | <kja> | Does not work well here... |
| 19:48 | <Chutt> | the dvb code doesn't create a proper seektable, most likely. |
| 19:48 | <Chutt> | so, what's it supposed to do? :p |
| 19:49 | <kja> | Ahh, so that's where I should look... |
| 19:49 | <Chutt> | also would be related to your issues seeking |
| 19:49 | <kja> | Dunno if I have the guts though, to dip into Ben's property... |
| 19:50 | <kja> | Yea, that sounds right, because everything is just wrong.. |
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| 19:52 | <kja> | An argument for doing private data in the mpeg stream would be that it follows the file.. |
| 19:53 | <kja> | When I think about it: probably related to me dropping packets in ProcessData |
| 19:56 | <kja> | Would you accept a fix for that if i handed it to you Chutt? |
| 20:06 | <kja> | Anyways: Why is the seektable still wrong when i run it through mythcommflag -f? |
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| 20:14 | <kje> | hmmm, kja wonders what his last input was :) |
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| 20:25 | <mechou> | anybody else get a ~2 second pause when pressing "i" twice while watching a prerecorded program on a networked frontend? |
| 20:25 | <markw> | is anyone running mythbackend with a dtv receiver? |
| 20:25 | <mikegrb> | mechou: yes |
| 20:26 | <markw> | thinking of just leaving it out in the garage and doing mythfrontend on my xbox. |
| 20:26 | <mechou> | mikegrb, ok, it's just not me.... |
| 20:26 | <mikegrb> | markw: there are people on the list if you search the archives if you have backend questions... I'm running an xbox frontend |
| 20:27 | <matt_> | markw: i am |
| 20:27 | <mikegrb> | mechou: when I get a chance I might look into making it cache the info when the recording starts that way it is around when you do hit i - i |
| 20:27 | <mikegrb> | since it works fine after the first time |
| 20:27 | <mikegrb> | I see |
| 20:27 | <mikegrb> | er sorry |
| 20:28 | <mikegrb> | mechou: I only started running a remote frontend this last week |
| 20:29 | <mikegrb> | mechou: I will be out of town this weekend though |
| 20:30 | <markw> | mikegrb: how's the performance? |
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| 20:32 | <mikegrb> | markw: fine, there is curently some issues with overscan that should be fixed shortly |
| 20:33 | <mechou> | migkegrb, np, just wondering if was something on my end.... |
| 20:33 | <markw> | mikegrb: cool. I assume the frontend controls the channel selection on the backend right? |
| 20:34 | <mikegrb> | right |
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| 20:50 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: where is the code that is creating all the /dev/video options for capture cards, based on what what /dev/video* devices there are on the filesystem? |
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| 20:56 | <bbeattie> | found it |
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| 21:23 | <fulbert> | since the update from pre.11 cvs to .11 release, I have been getting a lot of system crashes. |
| 21:23 | <fulbert> | I see "IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write()" |
| 21:23 | <fulbert> | then I get a lot of ivtv: Not enough free |
| 21:23 | <fulbert> | buffers, stream 0 |
| 21:24 | <fulbert> | no hardware changes, is there anything I should be looking for to tell me more about what is going on? |
| 21:31 | <linagee> | how do i access IR on the PVR-250? is it called a bt829? |
| 21:32 | <bbeattie> | rkulagow: let me know when you're around?> |
| 21:34 | <rkulagow> | bbeattie: here, but don't have the cycles right now. ~30min. |
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| 21:59 | <rkulagow> | bbeatie: i'm back. what's up? |
| 22:07 | <bbeattie> | where in the doc/howto do you want info for hdtv? |
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| 22:08 | <rkulagow> | is that for the pchdtv card that's supposed to be shipping? |
| 22:08 | <bbeattie> | yes |
| 22:09 | <bbeattie> | there's some notes people need to know, such as for selecting the dtv device, manually needed to edit the databse and change the frequency table, etc. |
| 22:09 | <rkulagow> | well, you can send me plain text or sgml, and after i take a look at it i'll see where it fits in. |
| 22:09 | | * mikegrb compiles cvs on his xbox :-/ |
| 22:10 | <bbeattie> | so just write up all the notes and get it to you?.. done |
| 22:10 | <bbeattie> | I'll create it over the weekend |
| 22:11 | <rkulagow> | yep, that's about it. |
| 22:13 | <rkulagow> | bbeattie: are you the hardware guy, the software guy, the promoter or just an interested 3rd party? |
| 22:14 | <bbeattie> | third party. I got a card early and got it at cost, and did some work in myth for it.. wrote a linux htpc, how-to, and am doing research in general for buildin gthe best linux HTPC possible |
| 22:15 | <rkulagow> | cool. is it a 3.3v card, or 5v only? |
| 22:19 | <bbeattie> | whatever pci2.2 is |
| 22:20 | <bbeattie> | gotta run, nigjht |
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| 23:30 | <ByteNik> | Has the mythtv front end ever been built sucessfully on Cygwin? |
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