| --- | Log | opened Sat Aug 23 00:00:07 2003 |
| 00:00 | <pablo__> | Chutt/kja: new ivtv driver from cvs seems to have fixed it |
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| 00:01 | <automatic_jack> | this is owen :) |
| 00:01 | <automatic_jack> | I realized that I wasn't using any options with the bttv modules. |
| 00:01 | <automatic_jack> | so I put some in and that allowed it to change channels properly. |
| 00:02 | <automatic_jack> | but the system still hung after a couple of minutes. |
| 00:02 | <automatic_jack> | could that be caused by not having enough memory? |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | know how warm things are getting? |
| 00:02 | <automatic_jack> | hmm |
| 00:02 | <automatic_jack> | the system is running with the case off. |
| 00:02 | <kja> | pablo: thanks! |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | and weren't you the one where g++ was segfaulting when you compiled? |
| 00:06 | <automatic_jack> | but once mythtv is running, it seems to slow down a lot so I couldn't ssh in to see what was going on at the console. |
| 00:06 | <automatic_jack> | me? no... |
| 00:06 | <automatic_jack> | yeah with mythbackend running I only have 26M free :) |
| 00:06 | | * pablo__ thanks kja and chutt btw |
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| 00:08 | | * kja is really tired...it's bout 6am here... |
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| 00:10 | <just1nux> | chutt, did you see my message earlier about the scheduling issue? |
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| 00:12 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 00:12 | <just1nux> | I have 3 cards in 1 backend, 2 ivtv, 1 bttv. they all have one input which use the same source. One of the pvr-250's has an additional source. when 3 programs are scheduled for the same time, all from the same source, everything works fine, but if the pvr-250 with the alternate source is using that alternate source, its as if the third card doesnt exist. It will record only from the two pvr-250's and refuse to schedule anthing to |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:15 | <just1nux> | do you have any way to try to reproduce that? |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 00:16 | <just1nux> | heh, i was afraid of that. |
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| 00:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what's the order of the cards in the cardinput table? and the order of the sources as well. |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, hey, you made the advanced recording options screen too big |
| 00:17 | <just1nux> | pvr250, pvr250, bttv card. common source is first, then the alternate |
| 00:19 | <just1nux> | the first card in the input table is the one with the alternative S-Video satellite source |
| 00:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, nah, that button that was added made it too big. ;) |
| 00:21 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: at 800x600? I noticed recently it started missing the button at the bottom. or does it affect all resolutions. |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | should be all resolutions |
| 00:22 | <Captain_Murdoch> | actually. does it only do that on items with 2-line descriptions? |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 00:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | nope, still misses button on even a 1-line desc here. I must have never noticed it until I installed the msttfont stuff. |
| 00:24 | <automatic_jack> | hmm |
| 00:24 | <automatic_jack> | have any of you guys tried RAID 5 as part of a mythtv setup? |
| 00:26 | <kja> | automatic_jack: have been running a raid0 until now, will get my other spare drives next week, and upgrade to (hardware) raid5 then (one of my ibm drives is making a really creapy sound:) |
| 00:27 | | * just1nux just had an IBM drive die with a creap noise. |
| 00:28 | <automatic_jack> | kja: I'm doing raid 5 in software. any chance that could be sub-optimal for mythtv? |
| 00:28 | <automatic_jack> | my system is an athlon xp 1600+. |
| 00:28 | <kja> | hope mine does not die on me yet... |
| 00:30 | <kja> | automatic_jack: don't think you will suffer dramatically (every harddrive request has to be calculated by the cpu though) |
| 00:30 | <automatic_jack> | right. |
| 00:30 | <automatic_jack> | I'm using ext3 on it also. |
| 00:30 | <automatic_jack> | and 32k chunks in the array. |
| 00:31 | <kja> | performance (r/w)? |
| 00:31 | <automatic_jack> | hmm, not sure. |
| 00:31 | <automatic_jack> | give me ~20 minutes, the array is rebuilding after the hard reset when the system hung :) |
| 00:32 | <kja> | aiii, hdparm -tT gives you some idea on what the read performance is... |
| 00:33 | <kja> | dev/sda: |
| 00:33 | <kja> | Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.47 seconds =272.34 MB/sec |
| 00:33 | <kja> | Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 0.95 seconds = 67.37 MB/sec |
| 00:33 | <kja> | [root@master:bin]$ |
| 00:33 | <kja> | :9 |
| 00:33 | <kja> | s/:9/:) |
| 00:35 | <automatic_jack> | I can try that. |
| 00:35 | <automatic_jack> | the software raid howto benchmarks with bonnie. |
| 00:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: are you messing with the advanced recording screen? |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | no, someone asked about it |
| 00:39 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok. I'm checking into it. looking to see if I can make 2 columns for the smaller items. |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
| 00:42 | <automatic_jack> | damn, I have a $50 gift cert for Amazon.com |
| 00:42 | <automatic_jack> | and I want to buy a digital camera |
| 00:42 | <automatic_jack> | but they don't have the one I want. bah1 |
| 00:42 | <automatic_jack> | ! |
| 00:43 | <kja> | Chutt: although the patch we discussed yesterday had some sense to it, i've not come around doing it (been working on a cleanup of my own dvbchannel.cpp..), but it'll come your way soon i think :) |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 00:48 | <kja> | just1nux: sorry for the late answer, but you have not thrown that drive away? (there is a lawsuit against ibm for making crappy drives, generally:) |
| 00:52 | <automatic_jack> | Timing buffer-cache reads: 1056 MB in 2.00 seconds = 528.00 MB/sec |
| 00:52 | <automatic_jack> | Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.00 seconds = 50.67 MB/sec |
| 00:54 | <kja> | automatic_jack: do you have high cpu load when doing that? (I have next to none:) |
| 00:55 | <automatic_jack> | do I have high load while it is running? |
| 00:57 | <automatic_jack> | hmm, yeah load spikes to ~40% when that runs. |
| 00:57 | <automatic_jack> | let me try with bonnie. |
| 00:57 | <automatic_jack> | so I can get a more sustained test. |
| 01:05 | <automatic_jack> | man, this thing is thorough... |
| 01:06 | <automatic_jack> | hmm. |
| 01:07 | <kja> | automatic_jack: yea, a lot more thorough than me :) |
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| 01:08 | <automatic_jack> | heh |
| 01:08 | <automatic_jack> | well, it's key that I check this out. |
| 01:08 | <automatic_jack> | because it would really suck if I went to the trouble to build a new system around this RAID for the purpose of running mythtv |
| 01:08 | <automatic_jack> | only to discover that the RAID isn't fast enough :) |
| 01:09 | <paulproteus> | On that fast a system, RAID will really probably not be an issue. |
| 01:09 | <paulproteus> | (I think.) |
| 01:09 | <automatic_jack> | that's what I thought. |
| 01:09 | <kja> | to be honest, and compare your results to mine, you probably survive the next 10 years :) |
| 01:11 | <kja> | What bitrate is maxed when HDTV is pushed to it's limits? |
| 01:12 | <automatic_jack> | kja: yeah, but those are reads, not writes. |
| 01:12 | <automatic_jack> | kja: for live tv, I imagine you need both to be pretty speedy. and my system is three 80G ATA 100 drives. |
| 01:13 | <kja> | sure, but writes from the backend itself does not generate the cpu (the drivers do) |
| 01:14 | <kja> | dont't think you'll be in any trouble soon :) |
| 01:14 | <automatic_jack> | ok |
| 01:14 | <automatic_jack> | well I just bought 256M more DDR 2100 ram. |
| 01:14 | <automatic_jack> | so I'll have 384M total in this box. |
| 01:15 | <automatic_jack> | but I need to figure out what's making it hang when I watch TV on it. |
| 01:16 | <kja> | Well, to be VERY honest, ram does not count that high, because when the backend starts using it you'll be lagging to transfer to the drives anyway (pileup) |
| 01:16 | <automatic_jack> | right. |
| 01:16 | <automatic_jack> | well right now I have like 24M free with mythbackend running and no frontend. |
| 01:16 | <automatic_jack> | and no xfree. |
| 01:17 | <automatic_jack> | so I think it needs a little more. |
| 01:17 | <automatic_jack> | another issue I am having is with the output to my TV. |
| 01:17 | <paulproteus> | automatic_jack: Are you subtracting cache/buffers as reasonable? |
| 01:17 | <automatic_jack> | paulproteus: I guess not. |
| 01:17 | <automatic_jack> | what would be reasonable? |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | paulproteus@renaissance:~$ free |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | total used free shared buffers cached |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | Mem: 512188 487524 24664 0 52536 178788 |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | -/+ buffers/cache: 256200 255988 |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | Swap: 749944 26920 723024 |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | Note the "-/+" line. |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | man free if you need more info. |
| 01:18 | <paulproteus> | Okay, "man free" is useless. |
| 01:19 | <automatic_jack> | total used free shared buffers cached |
| 01:19 | <automatic_jack> | Mem: 127104 67228 59876 0 8172 29492 |
| 01:19 | <automatic_jack> | -/+ buffers/cache: 29564 97540 |
| 01:19 | <automatic_jack> | Swap: 377488 7312 370176 |
| 01:19 | <automatic_jack> | that is with mythbackend running, and nothing else. |
| 01:19 | <paulproteus> | Ta-da. You have 30MB used, and nearly 100MB free. |
| 01:20 | <automatic_jack> | well, no x session or frontend, etc. |
| 01:20 | | * paulproteus nods |
| 01:20 | <automatic_jack> | I dunno. |
| 01:20 | <automatic_jack> | the hang issue feels like IO or something. |
| 01:20 | <automatic_jack> | suppose it could be heat. |
| 01:20 | <kja> | usually that unwanted part of X is causing a lot of memory withdrawal, and that will be swaped away by the kernel evetually |
| 01:20 | <automatic_jack> | right |
| 01:22 | <kja> | how hot is your cpu anuways? |
| 01:22 | <kja> | s/anuways/anyways |
| 01:22 | <automatic_jack> | good question. |
| 01:22 | <automatic_jack> | I'll have to install lm_sensors and see. |
| 01:23 | <kja> | yup, and configure it right (so it does not go banas) |
| 01:23 | <kja> | :) |
| 01:23 | <automatic_jack> | haha |
| 01:23 | <automatic_jack> | so, tv out |
| 01:23 | <automatic_jack> | when I run startx, the output on my TV is a mess. |
| 01:24 | <automatic_jack> | totally not readable. |
| 01:24 | <automatic_jack> | then when I kill X, I can see my console on the TV. |
| 01:24 | <automatic_jack> | but everything is shifted about 1.5" to the right so I can't read everything. |
| 01:24 | <automatic_jack> | and everything sort of "crawls." |
| 01:25 | <automatic_jack> | like the characters on the screen don't stay still :) |
| 01:27 | <kja> | I'm sorry for the misleading post, but your graphics card driver probably does not restore it all.. |
| 01:28 | <automatic_jack> | ? |
| 01:30 | <kja> | you shift to x (all is good) - x up (all is good, because the driver did it all) - x exit's (the driver does part of the work...not all).... |
| 01:32 | <automatic_jack> | no, when I shift to x, all is not good. |
| 01:32 | <kja> | or am i to tired to actually answer questions at this point? (it certanly feels like it..) |
| 01:32 | <automatic_jack> | haha |
| 01:32 | <automatic_jack> | yeah it doesn't matter, I'm not going to mess with it anymore tonight. |
| 01:32 | <automatic_jack> | gah, it's 2am. |
| 01:32 | <paulproteus> | Uh-oh. I wonder what time it is here. |
| 01:32 | <kja> | no, it's 7:30am |
| 01:32 | <paulproteus> | automatic_jack: it's half-past whatever time zone you're in. |
| 01:33 | <automatic_jack> | no, it's 1:44. |
| 01:33 | <automatic_jack> | hmm |
| 01:33 | <automatic_jack> | or not... |
| 01:33 | <automatic_jack> | wtf |
| 01:33 | | * paulproteus chuckles |
| 01:33 | <automatic_jack> | we can make a 4 ghz computer, but it can't tell time for shit. |
| 01:33 | <paulproteus> | ntpdate |
| 01:33 | <kja> | yea |
| 01:34 | <automatic_jack> | cool, I just bought a digital camera :) |
| 01:35 | <automatic_jack> | got a $50 gift certificate for amazon. |
| 01:35 | <automatic_jack> | because I bought something for work on my personal account. |
| 01:35 | <automatic_jack> | they gave me a raise this week but it was shit. I'm still way underpaid. |
| 01:35 | <automatic_jack> | so they just "gave" me that certificte :) |
| 01:35 | <automatic_jack> | certificate, even... |
| 01:35 | <kja> | before the second half of the old hour begun? ,sorry:) |
| 01:35 | <automatic_jack> | ? |
| 01:36 | <automatic_jack> | sorry I keep saying ? |
| 01:36 | <automatic_jack> | I think we're all too out of it to carry on rational conversations. |
| 01:36 | <kja> | :) |
| 01:36 | <automatic_jack> | QUICK, CHECK IN SOME CODE!! |
| 01:36 | <kja> | YEAY |
| 01:36 | <automatic_jack> | one of my friends is a Perl developer. |
| 01:36 | <automatic_jack> | he told me that one day, after he had pulled an all nighter, he was checking over some of his code. |
| 01:37 | <automatic_jack> | and he found a comment before a sort of complication part which said "good luck polishing that grape" |
| 01:37 | <automatic_jack> | and he was like, "wtf is the meaning of that?!" |
| 01:37 | <kja> | I ugess that it's that's sleep deprevation... |
| 01:37 | <automatic_jack> | he never figured it out. |
| 01:38 | <kja> | thats phunny |
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| 01:39 | <kja> | you see how tired i\xE6m right now |
| 01:39 | <automatic_jack> | hehe |
| 01:41 | <kja> | then why don't i just go go to bed |
| 01:45 | <kja> | naa, it's to enjoing!!! |
| 01:47 | <kja> | \quit well, have to try sometime |
| 01:48 | <kja> | that was productive... |
| 01:48 | <paulproteus> | Wait, kja. |
| 01:48 | <paulproteus> | Know this: |
| 01:48 | <paulproteus> | Outside of programming, the '\' key is almost entirely useless. |
| 01:48 | <paulproteus> | If you don't program, for the world's sanity's sake, remove it from your keyboard. ;) |
| 01:49 | <paulproteus> | In Win32, you can use '/' as the path separator these days. |
| 01:49 | <paulproteus> | This has been a public service announcement from Asheesh Enterprises. |
| 01:49 | <paulproteus> | Thank you for your time. |
| 01:49 | <paulproteus> | :) |
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| 01:52 | <automatic_jack> | good idea. |
| 01:52 | <automatic_jack> | haha |
| 01:52 | <automatic_jack> | man, listen to yourself. |
| 01:52 | <automatic_jack> | ok I'm for bed. |
| 01:52 | <automatic_jack> | thanks for the help guys. later. |
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| 04:11 | <markw> | anyone running myth on debian? |
| 04:12 | <sfr> | Chutt (and others incl. me) does |
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| 10:49 | <isaac_> | is anyone maintaining mythvideo/game .debs? |
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| 11:32 | <paulproteus> | markw: I am as well. |
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| 12:51 | <tstm> | Hi. Could anyone here tell me if there is any good way to hide the mouse cursor in X? |
| 12:51 | <tstm> | I'm playing DVD:s on a TV with ogle, and I just cant get the annoying arrow off the screen. |
| 12:51 | <tstm> | With MythDVD of course. |
| 12:51 | <Timon> | a giant stick |
| 12:51 | <sfr> | tstm or unclutter |
| 12:52 | <tstm> | sfr: I tried it, but it doesen't seem to do a thing. |
| 12:52 | <tstm> | Are there some options I should use? |
| 12:52 | <sfr> | tstm well don't move your mouse all the time :) |
| 12:54 | <tstm> | sfr: I don't have a mouse. |
| 12:55 | <sfr> | doesn't ogle hide the mouse cursor during playback? mplayer does. maybe it's an option in ogle. |
| 12:55 | <tstm> | Didn't find one. =/ |
| 12:56 | <tstm> | Mplayer does, but I can't get mplayer to work properly with my DVDs. |
| 13:03 | <sfr> | i never used ogle |
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| 13:08 | <paulproteus> | tstm: I'd suggest fixing your mplayer install ;) |
| 13:08 | <paulproteus> | Does your mplayer lack DeCSS, is that the problem? |
| 13:09 | <tstm> | paulproteus: Yes, it plays 'em but it doesen't support menus correctly. |
| 13:09 | <tstm> | DVD menus. |
| 13:09 | <paulproteus> | Ah. |
| 13:09 | <paulproteus> | That's silly. |
| 13:10 | <sfr> | but ture :( |
| 13:10 | <sfr> | ts, s/ture/true |
| 13:10 | <paulproteus> | Try #ogle ? :| |
| 13:13 | <automatic_jack> | I still need to get the TV output for my card working. |
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| 13:13 | <automatic_jack> | does anyone know of a resource for that. |
| 13:16 | <automatic_jack> | I think part of the problem is my xfree config. when I run startx it will switch to the svideo and output to the tv. |
| 13:16 | <automatic_jack> | but it's just a mess, you can't see anything. |
| 14:15 | <Timon> | automatic_jack: what vid card? |
| 14:16 | <Timon> | automatic_jack: If you have an nvidia card, get yanc(yanc.sourceforge.net) that will help you config xfree. |
| 14:25 | <isaac_> | if you upgrade mythvideo from 0.10 to 0.11, will it break anything if you don't run the 0.10-to-0.11.sql script but just run the videodb.sql script? |
| 14:26 | <sfr> | isaac_ i'd expect mythvideo 0.11 only to work with myth 0.11 so yes, things will break. |
| 14:27 | <isaac_> | sfr: assuming everything else is upgraded to 0.11 |
| 14:27 | <isaac_> | i'm talking about running the videodb.sql script on its own, rather than the upgrade script |
| 14:27 | <sfr> | and if everything is working then you should be save, imho |
| 14:27 | <isaac_> | i guess i'll try and see :) |
| 14:30 | <paulproteus> | I doubt it'll work, but, hey. |
| 14:31 | <isaac_> | how do the debian packages for mythgallery deal with upgrading then? |
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| 14:36 | <mattf> | ask mdz |
| 14:36 | <isaac_> | mdz: ping |
| 14:37 | <isaac_> | 24 hours idle.. yay |
| 14:40 | <robertj> | hrmm, what do I need to tern down with alsamixer to keep my sound from the tv card from being played |
| 14:40 | <robertj> | i'd experiment but i don't want to mess up my current recording |
| 14:40 | <robertj> | upgrading to 2.6 seems to have made my audio drive LessBroke(tm) |
| 14:41 | <FryGuy> | doesn't 2.6 have some other problems with mythtv? |
| 14:42 | <robertj> | FryGuy: it seems to be working more or less now |
| 14:42 | <robertj> | I havent had a chance to look closely yet though |
| 14:43 | <FryGuy> | what sound driver are you using? |
| 14:43 | <robertj> | snd_via82xx |
| 14:43 | <FryGuy> | and you should mute the mic or line-in (as long as you leave the CAPTUR on it should still be recording) |
| 14:43 | <FryGuy> | well i'm using cmipci and the recording quality is terrible. |
| 14:44 | <FryGuy> | i was able to get it sounding fine using /dev/adsp, but when I put the second sound card in /dev/adsp doesn't work anymore |
| 14:46 | <robertj> | yeah, mic fixed it |
| 14:46 | <FryGuy> | it really depends on where you plugged it in though :) |
| 14:46 | <robertj> | debian isn't playing nice with 2.6 |
| 14:46 | <robertj> | something is b0rk somewhere and it thinks my ethernet module is compiled into the kernel so it skips loading it |
| 14:47 | <FryGuy> | i wish that there was a killall on windows |
| 14:47 | <robertj> | I think cygwin's kill can be used to kill windows apps with a special switch |
| 14:49 | <FryGuy> | well task manager can't kill these stupid php processes |
| 14:51 | <robertj> | FryGuy: I scored a part-time job. The pay stinks but the work is pretty cool |
| 14:51 | <robertj> | All Linux and Mac, clustering, and bossing around grad students |
| 14:52 | <robertj> | getting some management skills will be nice |
| 14:57 | <FryGuy> | heh i'd rather be the grad students :p |
| 14:57 | <FryGuy> | what project are they doing? i could think up a few projects that could use clustering :) |
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| 15:05 | <jkolb> | Anyone here live in/around Portland, OR? |
| 15:10 | <FryGuy> | sacramento :) |
| 15:12 | <jkolb> | Sacramento's probably a bit nicer right now, isn't it? |
| 15:12 | <FryGuy> | what do you mean? |
| 15:12 | <FryGuy> | nicer than a week ago, or nicer than portland? |
| 15:13 | <jkolb> | Nicer than portland. |
| 15:13 | <FryGuy> | well it rained so it was really nice yesterday |
| 15:13 | <jkolb> | Nicer than Eugene, actually, I guess. I'm being sent to OSU for a few days. |
| 15:13 | <FryGuy> | I commute to school :/ |
| 15:14 | <jkolb> | Orlando to Oregon would be a bit of a commute. |
| 15:14 | <FryGuy> | oh i thought OSU was oregon state university |
| 15:14 | <jkolb> | It is. |
| 15:14 | <FryGuy> | oh |
| 15:15 | <FryGuy> | you're in florida |
| 15:15 | <FryGuy> | sorry, i'm a little slow :/ |
| 15:15 | <jkolb> | Yup. We're having a problem with our installation there, and they're quite upset, so I'm getting sent out. |
| 15:18 | <mattf> | who's in fl? |
| 15:18 | <jkolb> | I am |
| 15:19 | <automatic_jack> | Timon: thanks for the tip. someone also sent me a sample xf86 config file. |
| 15:19 | <automatic_jack> | so maybe I can get that to work. |
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| 15:20 | <mattf> | what part? |
| 15:20 | <jkolb> | Orlando |
| 15:21 | <jkolb> | Oviedo, actually, if you're familiar with cent fl |
| 15:21 | <mattf> | mmm...haven't heard of it, but ok |
| 15:22 | <jkolb> | You're in Miami? |
| 15:23 | <brainless> | any1 knows where i can watch live f1 on web/ |
| 15:23 | <mattf> | yep |
| 15:23 | <jkolb> | Where at? My sister lives down there. |
| 15:24 | <mattf> | know where miami shores is? |
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| 15:24 | <jkolb> | Not really. She's in Kendall, and about to move to, uh, crap. Somewhere closer the hospital she works at. |
| 15:25 | <jkolb> | I don't know a whole lot about Miami. I just take the Turnpike to the exit that's by her house. Then she does all the driving while I'm there. |
| 15:26 | <mattf> | ah, well i'm sort of in north miami. which hospital does she work at? |
| 15:27 | <jkolb> | Not sure. |
| 15:27 | <jkolb> | I want to say it's pink. She joined a private practice and the offices are right next to the hospital. |
| 15:27 | <jkolb> | Maybe the office is pink, and the hospital isn't. |
| 15:29 | <jkolb> | She used to work at Miami Children's, and I think is fairly striaght west of there, if that helps. Maybe a little north. |
| 15:30 | <mattf> | yay, got samba working |
| 15:31 | <jkolb> | What sort of problems were you having? |
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| 15:31 | <mattf> | mount was saying wrong fs type |
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| 15:31 | <mattf> | so i installed smbfs and that fixed it :) |
| 15:31 | <mattf> | now mythmusic is building the db |
| 15:31 | <jkolb> | Heh. |
| 15:31 | <mattf> | and i'm getting about 90mbps |
| 15:31 | <jkolb> | Having smbfs would probably help, yeah. |
| 15:32 | <automatic_jack> | anyone know if there's any filesystem overhead with ext3 that might make it more worthwhile for me to use ext2 on my mythtv box? |
| 15:34 | <jkolb> | If you enable journalling, you obviously have that overhead. Other than that, I think they're fairly equivalent. |
| 15:34 | <jkolb> | You can mount an ext3 with the ext2 driver, even, IIRC. |
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| 15:36 | <automatic_jack> | ext3 is ext2 with a journal file. |
| 15:37 | <automatic_jack> | so it's not so much about enabling journaling in ext3, per se, as it is about mounting the fs as one or the other. |
| 15:37 | <automatic_jack> | I guess I could test writes with it mounted as ext3 and 2 and see what happens. |
| 15:37 | <jkolb> | Ah |
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| 15:38 | <automatic_jack> | testing now. |
| 15:41 | <automatic_jack> | hmm |
| 15:41 | <automatic_jack> | OK I used dd to write a 256M file on the array from /dev/zero |
| 15:41 | <automatic_jack> | with ext3: |
| 15:42 | <automatic_jack> | real 0m8.271s |
| 15:42 | <automatic_jack> | with ext2: |
| 15:42 | <automatic_jack> | real 0m7.502s |
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| 15:43 | <automatic_jack> | so with ext3, that's about 31M/sec |
| 15:43 | <automatic_jack> | and with ext2, thatS about 34M/sec |
| 15:44 | <automatic_jack> | now I'll try it mounting with noatime. |
| 15:45 | <ByteNik> | Will mythtv run on display :0.1? |
| 15:47 | <automatic_jack> | with ext3: |
| 15:47 | <automatic_jack> | real 0m8.067s |
| 15:47 | <ByteNik> | I get LiveTV on display 0, but I get massive amounts of errors on display 1 |
| 15:47 | <automatic_jack> | with ext2: |
| 15:48 | <automatic_jack> | real 0m7.570s |
| 15:53 | <ByteNik> | Anyone using MythTV on a second monitor? |
| 15:54 | <sfr> | what card are is :0.1 ByteNik? |
| 15:54 | <ByteNik> | Dual head nvidia |
| 15:54 | <ByteNik> | Both heads Xv supporting |
| 15:55 | <ByteNik> | xvinfo and mplayer both agree with me on that. |
| 15:55 | <ByteNik> | But, on :0.1, I get the error: |
| 15:55 | <ByteNik> | [14:57] <ByteNik> [11:59] <bytenik> [15:25] <bytenik> X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attribute) 8 |
| 15:55 | <ByteNik> | [14:57] <ByteNik> [11:59] <bytenik> [15:25] <bytenik> Major opcode: 143 |
| 15:55 | <ByteNik> | [14:57] <ByteNik> [11:59] <bytenik> [15:25] <bytenik> Minor opcode: 19 |
| 15:55 | <ByteNik> | [14:57] <ByteNik> [11:59] <bytenik> [15:25] <bytenik> Resource id: 0xa00002 |
| 15:55 | <ByteNik> | Its been reposted just a few times. :P |
| 15:56 | <sfr> | does mythfrontend continue or abort? |
| 15:56 | <ByteNik> | Continues, but that error is continuous |
| 15:56 | <ByteNik> | It repeats over and over |
| 15:56 | <ByteNik> | And I obviously get no TV output, just a blank screen |
| 15:56 | <sfr> | and live tv doesn't work? |
| 15:56 | <ByteNik> | And I can't escape out of LiveTV mode |
| 15:56 | <ByteNik> | I have to manually kill the task |
| 15:57 | <sfr> | but do you get a picture? |
| 15:57 | <ByteNik> | No |
| 15:57 | <ByteNik> | Black screen |
| 15:57 | <sfr> | what about sound? |
| 15:57 | <ByteNik> | Nope |
| 15:58 | <ByteNik> | Well, for a quick split second I hear it |
| 15:58 | <ByteNik> | But then it goes away |
| 15:59 | <sfr> | maybe a driver problem? |
| 15:59 | <ByteNik> | mplayer and xine both work fine |
| 15:59 | <sfr> | can you try it in xinerama mode? |
| 15:59 | <ByteNik> | Sure, 1 sec |
| 16:00 | <ByteNik> | Where's hte option again? mythsetup or mythfrontend? |
| 16:01 | <sfr> | the frontend |
| 16:02 | <ByteNik> | It completely ignored the option |
| 16:02 | <ByteNik> | It played on the first screen |
| 16:02 | <sfr> | no message like found 2 xinerama screen. using first screen? |
| 16:02 | <ByteNik> | nope |
| 16:03 | <sfr> | then Xinerama is not active, have this setup here and get this messages. |
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| 16:07 | <sfr> | ByteNik not that i'd know a solution, just suggesting different things to try ;) |
| 16:21 | <ByteNik> | Chutt, you around? |
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| 16:43 | <mattf> | grr, mythmusic keeps segfaulting |
| 16:43 | <mattf> | or rather mythmusic causes mythfrontend to |
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| 17:42 | <billytwowilly> | If I had an athlonxp 2200 on an nforce2 motherboard with 512 MB ram would I have to upgrade anything (besides buying another tuner card) to get it to do two recordings at once effectively? |
| 17:46 | <mattf> | A P4 2.4GHz machine can encode two 3300Kbps 480x480 MPEG-4 files and simultaneously serve content to a remote frontend. |
| 17:46 | <mattf> | doesn't say the cpu usage though :-\ |
| 17:46 | <billytwowilly> | so to do 2 encodings and play back locally and to a frontend you'd need what? an xp2700? |
| 17:46 | <mattf> | The developer states that his AMD1800+ system can almost encode two MPEG-4 video streams and watch one program simultaneously. |
| 17:47 | <mattf> | i don't know how up to date that is though |
| 17:47 | <mattf> | what do ou mean by "play back locally and to a frontend" ? |
| 17:47 | <billytwowilly> | yah, there's seems to have been a slowdown in the latest release.. |
| 17:47 | <billytwowilly> | record 2 progs on one computer, play back on that computer and stream to a frontend on the local LAN |
| 17:47 | <mattf> | ok, thought so |
| 17:48 | <mattf> | don't know what you'd need exactly |
| 17:48 | <billytwowilly> | well, thanks for the help anyway. |
| 17:48 | <billytwowilly> | at this point I'm just curious because xboxs are starting to come onto the second hand market for cheap. |
| 17:50 | <billytwowilly> | and somebody made an xbox distro, which makes putting it on an xbox a lot easier. |
| 17:50 | <mattf> | on my 1800+, i peak at about 40% when encoding 480x480@3000kbps and decoding it at the same time |
| 17:50 | <mattf> | yea, that's true |
| 17:51 | <billytwowilly> | well, I was thinking about buying one of those pvr-250 cards, an xbox and another hard drive for my mythtv box;) |
| 17:51 | <billytwowilly> | then all I'd have to do is figure out how to change the channel on our cable box via its serial port. |
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| 18:23 | | * pablo__ wonders if mythmusic's intelligent shuffle is based on whether you let the song play through or whether there's some way to rate a song as it plays |
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| 18:38 | <automatic_jack> | grr |
| 18:39 | <automatic_jack> | still can't get the tv out on my Geforce 2 to work. |
| 18:41 | <Timon> | automatic_jack: Did you try using yanc to config x? |
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| 18:42 | <bline> | I found the geforce2 tv out was hard to get working, if I had any extra section on my conf it would not work, very stange |
| 18:42 | <bline> | s/ang/rang/ |
| 18:43 | <automatic_jack> | Timon: well, I downloaded yanc |
| 18:43 | <bline> | but this was probably because I was trying to get it to work as well as the monitor out |
| 18:43 | <automatic_jack> | but it needs Kylix to compile. |
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| 18:43 | <automatic_jack> | and Borland wants me to fill out a complicated form to get it. I'm just going to try one or two other things before I sign over my personal info to them :) |
| 18:46 | <Timon> | automatic_jack: No it doesn't |
| 18:47 | <Timon> | I compiled it just fine |
| 18:49 | <Timon> | Oh, I guess you are right. It is built with kylix |
| 18:49 | <Timon> | automatic_jack: Do you want me to send you my binary? So you don't have to sign your life away? |
| 18:55 | <automatic_jack> | actually I just got it working :) |
| 18:55 | <automatic_jack> | someone on mythtv-users sent me their config. |
| 18:56 | <automatic_jack> | however, the system still hangs after showing video for a bit. |
| 18:56 | <automatic_jack> | maybe a heat problem. |
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| 19:35 | <ByteNik> | Chutt, you around? |
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| 19:52 | <ByteNik> | I believe I found a bug in MythTV |
| 19:52 | <ByteNik> | Myth works on either display, but it doesn't seem to like -display :0.x |
| 19:52 | <ByteNik> | *shrugs* |
| 19:53 | <ByteNik> | It just displays massive amounts of errors |
| 19:53 | <ByteNik> | And then crashes... |
| 19:53 | <ByteNik> | And why am I stuck in bold? :P |
| 19:53 | <ByteNik> | There we go |
| 20:23 | <automatic_jack> | does anyone know if I should have DRI enabled for mythtv? |
| 20:31 | <ByteNik> | Not necessary |
| 20:33 | <automatic_jack> | ok. |
| 20:34 | <automatic_jack> | will it make any performance difference? |
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| 20:43 | <markw> | ok, I'm playin with myth now. I can setup mythfrontend on another box, and watch "recorded" tv but I can't watch videos, it's looks like I need to nfs mount my video storage. |
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| 21:08 | <hadees> | anyone use the new LCD support yet? Just wanted a review |
| 21:09 | <hadees> | cause i don't my lcd yet |
| 21:10 | <automatic_jack> | anyone know if DVD-ROM drives can do interlaced output? |
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| 21:24 | <montag2k> | hey all - do you have to do anything special to get native lirc support for verison 0.11? |
| 21:28 | <hadees> | how is native lirc implemented? I ask because I want to add powermate support |
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| 22:00 | <linagee> | has anyone gotten ivtv to compile in redhat9? |
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| 22:57 | <automatic_jack> | sigh - my system is still hanging. blah! |
| 22:57 | <automatic_jack> | the video looks so sweet. |
| 22:57 | <automatic_jack> | until it all stops. |
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