--- | Log | opened Thu Aug 28 00:00:25 2003 |
--- | Day | changed Thu Aug 28 2003 |
00:00 | <mrallen> | make: *** No rule to make target `/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. |
00:00 | <mikegrb> | ahh |
00:01 | <mikegrb> | that is in the howto but it is easy you just need to do a "export QTDIR=<dir>" |
00:01 | <mrallen> | crap, missed that |
00:01 | <mikegrb> | likely possibility is /usr/share/qt3 or some such |
00:01 | <mrallen> | working now |
00:02 | <mikegrb> | you might try locate qt3 |
00:02 | <mikegrb> | okay :-) |
00:02 | <mrallen> | /usr/lib/qt-3.1 default in r9. thanks! |
00:02 | -!- | Irssi: #mythtv: Total of 39 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 39 normal] |
00:03 | <mrallen> | mythtv --- easier to build than the pyramids |
00:03 | <mrallen> | :) |
00:03 | <mikegrb> | perhaps that should be the new slogan <g> |
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00:07 | <mikegrb> | heh |
00:07 | <mikegrb> | er wrong window |
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00:31 | <mrallen> | ok, probably another howto question, but setup is failing |
00:31 | <mrallen> | QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
00:31 | <mrallen> | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
00:31 | <mrallen> | QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
00:31 | <mrallen> | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
00:31 | <mrallen> | Unable to connect to database! |
00:31 | <mrallen> | and so on and so forth |
00:31 | <mrallen> | mysql is running |
00:33 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that's covered in the howto I think. |
00:34 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch: is there already a method for the frontend to determine if the backend is recording? |
00:34 | <mrallen> | is 'Installing and using MythTV' the same as howto? |
00:34 | <mikegrb> | I know going to live tv it checks for a free tuner but I'm interested in if anything is recording |
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00:35 | <mikegrb> | mrallen: basically part of the mysql stuff is missing, you need mysql support in mythtv |
00:35 | <mikegrb> | er in qt |
00:35 | <mikegrb> | sorry, it's late |
00:35 | <Captain_Murdoch> | mikegrb. I don't think so. I'd like to have a way so ask the master backend and have it reply "tuner 0 on host X is recording Monster Garage, tuner 1 on host X is free, tuner 0 on host Y is recording 'Nascar'" |
00:36 | <mrallen> | ah. yes, missing qt-mysql package |
00:36 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch: I'm aiming to change the led on the xbox |
00:37 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch: so I guess I get to add a new query for the backend to recognize |
00:38 | <Captain_Murdoch> | would be nice. :) I think current code on the playbackbox screen just assumes something is recording if the current time is before the endtime. |
00:38 | <mikegrb> | I believe you are right |
00:38 | <mrallen> | any way to use mouse to config mythtv or do i absolutely need lirc + remote at this point? |
00:38 | <mikegrb> | there was a problem with it not taking into account the pre-roll when it was first added |
00:39 | <Captain_Murdoch> | keyboard |
00:39 | <mrallen> | thanks |
00:40 | <mikegrb> | I guess I'll look at the code that was added for exectv as a starting point |
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00:41 | <mikegrb> | I emailed the guy, dan I think, who did the lcd stuff because he was planning on adding this support for lcd's to see if he has any code written |
00:41 | <Captain_Murdoch> | fairly easy overall. look over the patch maybe to see what was needed for everything. |
00:41 | <mikegrb> | right |
00:42 | <mikegrb> | then I'll look at your auto-delete stuff to see how to make a timer work w/ c++ 'n qt ... look at the lcd stuff for a configure option --enable-xbox :-) |
00:42 | <mikegrb> | then it can add setup options for led colors to use and how often to check and what not |
00:43 | <mikegrb> | heh maybe that polling the backend every so often will keep the frontend from getting swapped out on my xbox, then I wont have to wait 10 sec after a key press everytime I come back after a while |
00:46 | <CaCtus491> | does the frontend on the xbox work well? |
00:46 | <mikegrb> | yes, so far anyway |
00:47 | <mikegrb> | working on getting the controllers working in mame |
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00:47 | <tmk> | chutt, you around? |
00:47 | <CaCtus491> | cool, I was thinking about getting one to use as a front end :) |
00:48 | <CaCtus491> | how long does it take to boot, and does it have an limitations compared to a pc? (as far as myth is concerned?) |
00:48 | <mikegrb> | well all the way into myth 45ish seconds, we leave it on all the time |
00:49 | <mikegrb> | I like it better in terms of the remote, the kernel driver for the dvd remote works as a usb HID device so as far as the computer is concerned, the remote is a usb keyboard |
00:49 | <mikegrb> | no lirc or what not to worry abt |
00:51 | <CaCtus491> | all the overlay and stuff works ok? visualisations in mythmusic? |
00:53 | <mikegrb> | I haven't installed mythmusic but yes |
00:53 | <CaCtus491> | cool |
00:54 | <mikegrb> | there is a guy on the lists that has made a mini linux dist for myth on the xbox |
00:55 | <CaCtus491> | one last thing then before I go out and get one :)... if I have a dvb card in the backend, can the xbox handle the mpeg stream ok (for live tv)? then if I transcode recordings to mpeg4, it could play them ok? |
00:56 | <mikegrb> | I don't have dvb so don't know but I use mpeg4 |
00:57 | <mikegrb> | it is fine with that and mythvideo runs fine playing divx's over nfs |
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01:03 | <CaCtus491> | sounds good |
01:04 | <mikegrb> | is it tar.gz or tar.bz2 or .tgz? |
01:04 | <mikegrb> | er sorry wrong window |
01:07 | <hadees> | i am starting to work on for powermate support for mythtv |
01:07 | <mikegrb> | :-) |
01:08 | <mikegrb> | night all |
01:08 | <hadees> | it looks like a volume knob and i need some help on what to do with a part of it |
01:08 | <hadees> | see there is a led behind the knob that can blink and change brightness |
01:09 | <hadees> | but i am not sure what to have it attached to in mythtv |
01:09 | <hadees> | any ideas would be great |
01:10 | <CaCtus491> | ...I just started playing with myth a few days ago, it's such a great program! My main problem is that the tv reception is fairly average, with the tuner card (winfast 2000xp) plugged in, even \x91normal\x92 tv reception is poor. Unplug the capture card and it becomes perfect again. Any suggestions? |
01:10 | <CaCtus491> | hadees: whats a 'powermate'? :) |
01:10 | <hadees> | http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/ |
01:10 | <hadees> | it is an input device that looks like a volume knob |
01:13 | <CaCtus491> | hadees: use it to indicate if myth is recording :) |
01:13 | <hadees> | CaCtus491 are you using a splitter? |
01:13 | <CaCtus491> | hadees: yeah |
01:13 | <hadees> | when you unplug the capture card do you also remove the splitter |
01:14 | <CaCtus491> | nope, just unplug the coax from the back of the capture card |
01:16 | <hadees> | post your problem on avsforum.com |
01:17 | <hadees> | in the normal htpc forum |
01:17 | <hadees> | not the linux one, you won't get a response for a while |
01:17 | <CaCtus491> | I was thinking of moving the card to the slot furthest away from the cpu? |
01:17 | <CaCtus491> | ok |
01:17 | <CaCtus491> | thanks |
01:17 | <hadees> | and the problem should in windows as well as linux |
01:17 | <hadees> | if it happens to normal tv viewing |
01:18 | <hadees> | through the tv with the computer just plugged in |
01:26 | <knight-> | anyone use a pvr250? |
01:26 | <hadees> | lots of people |
01:26 | <knight-> | obviously, but anyone who is awake here with the pvr250 |
01:26 | <knight-> | I just picked one up today to replace my bttv based one |
01:27 | <hadees> | i got one in the mail |
01:27 | <knight-> | and I'm getting read errors |
01:27 | <hadees> | sorry don't have it quite yet |
01:27 | <knight-> | heh |
01:28 | <knight-> | you know what tuner it has in it? |
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01:28 | <monkeyBox> | Hi all.. I'd like to manually transcode a recording, I hit "x" while watching the recording, but how do I know if it's actually transcoding?? |
01:30 | <tmk> | knight: what you need |
01:31 | <knight-> | tmk, trying to get this pvr250 working, but it's not at all... driver is loaded, but i'm getting read errors in xawtv and myth |
01:32 | <tmk> | xawtv won't work |
01:32 | <tmk> | it's for uncompressed streams |
01:32 | <knight-> | ahh ok |
01:32 | <tmk> | pvr250 spits out mpg2 :) |
01:32 | <knight-> | well anyways, still doesnt work in miyyth |
01:32 | <knight-> | yah i know :) |
01:32 | <tmk> | try cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg |
01:32 | <tmk> | what do you get |
01:33 | <knight-> | Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
01:33 | <knight-> | error reading from: /dev/video0 |
01:33 | <knight-> | read: Input/output error |
01:33 | <knight-> | ok |
01:33 | <knight-> | testing |
01:33 | <tmk> | rmmod ivtv |
01:33 | <tmk> | insmod ivtv.o |
01:33 | <tmk> | that should fix it |
01:33 | <knight-> | viper setup # cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg |
01:33 | <knight-> | cat: /dev/video0: Input/output error |
01:34 | <knight-> | same prob |
01:34 | <tmk> | ^^ |
01:34 | <knight-> | and from dmesg: |
01:34 | <knight-> | ivtv: i2c client addr: 33 not found! |
01:34 | <knight-> | ivtv: i2c client addr: 33 not found! |
01:34 | <knight-> | ivtv: Timeout waiting for data! |
01:34 | <knight-> | ivtv: EOS interrupt not received! stopping anyway. |
01:34 | <knight-> | after trying the cat |
01:35 | <snorp> | knight-: the module loading order is very important |
01:35 | <snorp> | knight-: did you do that correctly? |
01:35 | <knight-> | snorp, i followed it, yes |
01:35 | <snorp> | hmm |
01:35 | <knight-> | although I will try again |
01:36 | <snorp> | tmk: why is it that unloading/loading sometimes fixes stuff? |
01:36 | <snorp> | it kind of bothers me :) |
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01:37 | <knight-> | tmk |
01:38 | <tmk> | snorp: sometimes the digitizer and the encoder get out of sync |
01:38 | <tmk> | i haven't put in logic to test htat yet |
01:38 | <tmk> | sup |
01:38 | <knight-> | i found your response on the I2C error |
01:38 | <knight-> | i have those as well |
01:38 | <knight-> | addr 97, 64, not found |
01:38 | <tmk> | hmm |
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01:38 | <tmk> | hauppauge may have changed the board some |
01:38 | <knight-> | :( |
01:38 | <tmk> | load i2c-algo-bit with the bit_scan=1 option |
01:39 | <tmk> | and msg me the output of the .'s |
01:39 | <knight-> | ok |
01:39 | <knight-> | hang on |
01:39 | <knight-> | going to do a fresh reboot |
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01:41 | <knight-> | tmk, also, should tuner type=2? |
01:43 | <tmk> | knight: load the tveeprom module |
01:43 | <tmk> | that will tell you |
01:44 | <knight-> | where can i get that? |
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01:45 | <toe> | knight - you are using PAL buy havent told the driver that you are? |
01:45 | | * toe enters a conversation 1/2 way through |
01:45 | <knight-> | no, NTSC |
01:46 | <tmk> | it's part of ivtv |
01:46 | <knight-> | tmk, ok, trying |
01:47 | <knight-> | tmk, whats the proper modules.conf line for the i2c-algo-bit lines? |
01:47 | <tmk> | options i2c-algo-bit debug=1 bit_scan=1 |
01:47 | <knight-> | right but whats the alias |
01:48 | <tmk> | no alias |
01:48 | <knight-> | ahh |
01:49 | <knight-> | ok, rebooting |
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01:54 | <knight-> | ok |
01:54 | <knight-> | ivtv: Timeout waiting for data! |
01:55 | <knight-> | ivtv: init error 1. Code -16 |
01:55 | <knight-> | ivtv: init error 2. Code -16 |
01:56 | <knight-> | etc |
01:56 | <knight-> | i got 18 of those sequentially |
01:56 | <knight-> | saa7115[0]: decoder disable output |
01:56 | <knight-> | ivtv: init error 19. Code -16 |
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02:03 | <knight-> | heh |
02:08 | <tmk> | knight: what did algo-bit have to say |
02:09 | <knight-> | msg'd you it |
02:10 | <knight-> | 01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
02:10 | <knight-> | Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device 4001 |
02:10 | <knight-> | from lspci -v btw |
02:12 | <tmk> | knight: lemme check my i2c's |
02:12 | <knight-> | ok |
02:19 | <tmk> | hmm those are the same id's as what i've got |
02:19 | <tmk> | what kernel rev? |
02:19 | <knight-> | FreeBSD pradesh.hacksess.com 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 18 01:37:40 CDT 2003 knight@pradesh.hacksess.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PRADESH i386 |
02:19 | <knight-> | oops |
02:19 | <knight-> | wrong machine :) |
02:20 | <knight-> | Linux viper.phunc.com 2.4.20-gentoo-r2 #11 SMP Sat Jun 7 21:12:34 PDT 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
02:20 | <tmk> | hmm |
02:20 | <tmk> | is it really SMP? |
02:20 | <knight-> | no |
02:20 | <knight-> | SMP is disabled at boot, it's a single processor mobo anyways |
02:21 | <tmk> | dunno then |
02:22 | <knight-> | hmm |
02:22 | <tmk> | i never figured out what causes those i2c errors |
02:22 | <tmk> | might be some 'advanced' kernel version |
02:22 | <knight-> | is that what your modules.conf looks like? |
02:23 | <knight-> | i have a pctv card (bttv) in as well, but i'm not loading bttv at all |
02:24 | <tmk> | you sure? |
02:25 | <tmk> | check.. sometimes it's automatic |
02:25 | <knight-> | i'm sure :) |
02:25 | <tmk> | you spelled videodev wrong too |
02:25 | <knight-> | ohhh |
02:25 | <knight-> | ok let me fix |
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02:28 | <tmk> | heh |
02:28 | <tmk> | just email it to me |
02:32 | <knight-> | 971 root 20 0 5732 5732 4444 S 27.7 1.1 0:26 artsd |
02:32 | <knight-> | 1287 root 9 0 13924 13M 6816 S 4.9 2.7 0:02 mythbackend |
02:32 | <knight-> | why is artsd eatig up so much cpu during record |
02:32 | <knight-> | eating |
02:33 | <Chutt> | because you're not supposed to be running it. |
02:34 | <knight-> | heh |
02:34 | <knight-> | why not? |
02:34 | <Chutt> | well, first off, arts sucks. |
02:35 | <Chutt> | second, mythtv doesn't know about it/use it |
02:35 | <knight-> | it's killed |
02:35 | <knight-> | still serious lag during pvr250 crecord and no sound |
02:36 | <knight-> | somehow mythbackend it eating 38% cpu, but the whole machine is lagging |
02:36 | <knight-> | 1287 root 9 0 14060 13M 6904 S 38.3 2.7 0:32 mythbackend |
02:36 | <Chutt> | mythbackend shouldn't be using any cpu. |
02:36 | <Chutt> | if you had things setup properly. |
02:36 | <knight-> | Thanks for that tidbit of clarification. |
02:37 | <knight-> | The blame is on me, I'll accept that. |
02:37 | <knight-> | How can Itroubleshoot this further now |
02:37 | <Chutt> | start by reading the pvr-250 section in the howto |
02:38 | <knight-> | I did. |
02:38 | <knight-> | I followed it to the T. |
02:39 | <Chutt> | sorry, but i doubt that |
02:39 | <knight-> | I understand you assume I'm very new to mythtv. |
02:39 | <knight-> | I've read the pvr-250 section several times. |
02:40 | <knight-> | ivtv is latest cvs, modules.conf almost mimics example in howot, etc. |
02:40 | <knight-> | Can we please get past your assumptions that I'm a cluebie who hasn't even read he docs? |
02:40 | <Chutt> | nope |
02:40 | <knight-> | Cute. |
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02:41 | <Chutt> | if you're not a cluebie, then crack open gdb and see what it's doing |
02:41 | <knight-> | Certainly massuh. |
02:42 | <Chutt> | are you trying to be annoying? |
02:42 | <knight-> | Are you trying to be a dick? |
02:42 | <Chutt> | i do have better things to do than free tech support. |
02:42 | <knight-> | Then don't help. Your pretenciousness isn't really helpful. |
02:43 | <Chutt> | it's my channel. |
02:43 | <knight-> | We already know you're a stud. |
02:43 | <Chutt> | any questions asked in here are directed to me. |
02:43 | <knight-> | You don't have to be cocky about everything. |
02:45 | <Chutt> | sure i do |
02:45 | <Chutt> | i'm trying to cut down on the amount of free tech support that happens here |
02:45 | <knight-> | Why would you do that? |
02:46 | <Chutt> | this is _supposed_ to be for development. |
02:46 | <knight-> | You tried to shut me up months ago when I made a ton of mythweb additions and requested solid database changes with no increase in query duration. |
02:47 | <knight-> | So I doubt this is much about development. |
02:47 | <Chutt> | tried to? |
02:47 | <Chutt> | i said 'submit a patch with your proposed database changes' |
02:47 | <Chutt> | and you never did. |
02:47 | <Chutt> | you also never submitted the mythweb changes |
02:47 | <knight-> | Indeed I didn't. |
02:47 | <Chutt> | i'm not going to write code for you just because you asked me to |
02:47 | <knight-> | I never wanted you to write me code. |
02:47 | <knight-> | I wrote plenty of my own. |
02:48 | <Chutt> | 'requested solid database changes' |
02:48 | <knight-> | Right, but my proposals here in chat were swiftly denied by you |
02:48 | <knight-> | Since youwere satisfied with the existing playlist column |
02:48 | <Chutt> | indeed. |
02:49 | <knight-> | That's my point. EOL. |
02:49 | <Chutt> | then i said, if you wanted something better, submit a patch so i could look it over. |
02:49 | <Chutt> | but funnily enough, that never happened. |
02:49 | <knight-> | Anyhow, you're rihgt, I'm wrong, and I'm happy to stfu now. |
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02:50 | <Chutt> | have you emailed the list about the problem with the pvr-250? |
02:51 | <Chutt> | someone out there's probably gotten something similar before.. |
02:51 | <knight-> | I'll probably proceed with that. |
02:52 | <Chutt> | there's nothing in the direct code path that i can think of that would use any cpu |
02:52 | <Chutt> | which is why i'm fairly sure it's a config issue |
02:54 | <Chutt> | or it could be all tmk's fault |
02:55 | <knight-> | heh |
03:00 | <FryGuy> | personally I just want both my tuners to start working again |
03:00 | <FryGuy> | can I blame that on tmk too? :) |
03:01 | <Chutt> | yeah |
03:01 | <FryGuy> | although I think if one of the tuners is borked, it causes the backend to crash just after starting to record |
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03:02 | <FryGuy> | it gives the warnings on startup, but still thinks it should record |
03:03 | <Chutt> | what warnings? |
03:03 | <FryGuy> | something like unable to read from /dev/video1 |
03:04 | <Chutt> | ah |
03:04 | <Chutt> | yeah, i doubt it deals with that at all |
03:04 | <knight-> | Chutt, anyone submit any code for having chained storage dirs? |
03:04 | <Chutt> | nope, no one has |
03:04 | <knight-> | Ok, perhaps I'll look into thta. |
03:04 | <knight-> | that |
03:04 | <Chutt> | cool. |
03:04 | <Chutt> | lotta people just use lvm for that |
03:05 | <FryGuy> | at one point I had them both working, but when I rebooted only one showed up |
03:05 | <knight-> | Yeah, but then those drives are basically permanently connected right? |
03:05 | <FryGuy> | knight: multiple backends :) |
03:05 | <Chutt> | don't think so |
03:05 | <knight-> | Having drive spillage would be safer and independant of raid, etc |
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03:13 | <knight-> | what's an oss mixer command? |
03:13 | <Chutt> | aumix? |
03:13 | <Chutt> | or are you meaning something else.. |
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03:17 | <knight-> | no that's fine |
03:17 | <knight-> | I' |
03:17 | <knight-> | Thanks. |
03:18 | <lythe> | how can i test to ensure that my audio is working correctly when im using oss instead of alsa |
03:18 | <lythe> | xawtv will play audio/video but mythtv freezes up with a black window when i go to watch tv after configuring the inputs and such |
03:19 | <tmk> | chutt: you around? |
03:19 | <Chutt> | tmk, yup |
03:19 | <tmk> | cool. If you can, woudl you mind installing lkcd? |
03:19 | <tmk> | lkcd.sf.net |
03:19 | <tmk> | saves crashdumps |
03:19 | <Chutt> | lythe, there's an error message on the console you ran myth from |
03:19 | <lythe> | nope |
03:19 | <lythe> | it just says connecting to master backend |
03:19 | <tmk> | so when your myth crashes due to pvr250, it'll give me a traceback |
03:20 | <tmk> | i think i know what it is, but it'd make sure |
03:20 | <lythe> | the backend server doesnt print any connection message either, if it does at all |
03:20 | <Chutt> | lythe, then it's not able to connect to the backend. |
03:20 | <bline> | tmk: the weekly lockup? |
03:20 | <tmk> | yea |
03:20 | <lythe> | oh really hrm |
03:21 | <Chutt> | tmk, it hasn't crashed recently |
03:21 | <tmk> | great |
03:21 | <Chutt> | haven't rebooted that machine in awhile |
03:21 | <tmk> | i think it's a schedule during irq time |
03:21 | <tmk> | ie semaphore sleep |
03:21 | <tmk> | which i'll be fixing as soon as i get the decoder going properly |
03:24 | <bline> | yay |
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03:53 | <jcw_> | ? |
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03:56 | <jarodwilson> | Anyone seen bbeatie lately? |
03:56 | <jarodwilson> | er, bbeattie |
03:56 | <Chutt> | during the day, eastern |
03:56 | <jarodwilson> | aha |
03:56 | <jarodwilson> | (I'm west coast) |
03:56 | <jarodwilson> | thanks |
03:56 | <Chutt> | i think he is as well |
03:57 | <Chutt> | but that's when he's on more, at least |
03:57 | <jarodwilson> | Oh duh. Salt Lake. |
03:57 | <harrih> | Hello, question to anyone who knows, how many records is a recorded program supposed to create in recordedmarkup table ? |
03:57 | <jarodwilson> | I'll try to catch him tomorrow then... |
03:58 | <harrih> | i have over 200000 records, is this normal ? I'm investigating a problem that freezes the frontend when fast forwarding |
03:58 | <Chutt> | harrih, lots. |
03:59 | <harrih> | does anyone else have this problem : http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=77629;search_string=rebuffering;guest=1075237&t=search_engine#77629 |
04:00 | <jarodwilson> | Nope. What capture card? |
04:00 | <harrih> | tvwonder ve |
04:04 | <harrih> | well, at least some other people seem to have the same problem, so if I hosed my install somehow, I'm not the only one :( |
04:05 | <jarodwilson> | Hm. I certainly can't be of much help. |
04:05 | <jarodwilson> | I've got a PVR-250 |
04:05 | <jarodwilson> | (well, and an AVerTV Studio, but I haven't done much w/it yet) |
04:06 | <harrih> | I was thinking of getting a PVR-250 but the recording filesize put me off |
04:07 | <lythe> | anyone have suggestions on a nicely supported PCI sound card? |
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04:08 | <jarodwilson> | Yes, the PVR-250 file sizes are pretty big... but you can transcode post-record now. |
04:09 | <jarodwilson> | For a sound card, I've had very good experiences with several SoundBlaster Audigy OEM cards |
04:10 | <jarodwilson> | For a bit nicer card, I'm rather partial to the M-Audio Revolution 7.1 |
04:11 | <knight-> | 1287 root 9 0 14060 13M 6904 S 38.3 2.7 0:32 mythbackend |
04:11 | <knight-> | oops\ |
04:11 | <knight-> | ignor that |
04:12 | <tmk> | jaro: you can decrease the bitrage |
04:12 | <tmk> | bitrate even |
04:12 | <jarodwilson> | tmk: you're referring to the PVR-250 part, I assume... |
04:13 | <jarodwilson> | Yeah, I know. But I like 8/16 at 720x480! |
04:13 | <jarodwilson> | (outputting to HDTV) |
04:13 | <jarodwilson> | :) |
04:13 | <jarodwilson> | (I'm a big fan of your work, btw :) |
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04:27 | <tmk> | :) thx |
04:27 | <tmk> | i bought a 120gb drive so i could keep my full-bitrate recordings :) |
04:28 | <tmk> | night all |
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04:29 | <jarodwilson> | only 1x120? :) |
04:29 | <jarodwilson> | well, time for me to get some sleep too... |
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04:45 | <knight-> | heh |
04:54 | <Chutt> | great |
04:54 | <Chutt> | hung my machine |
04:55 | <Chutt> | stupid via junk |
05:04 | <lythe> | I can't figure out why this alsa module snd-sbawe wont load, the oss module loads fine |
05:04 | <lythe> | and the alsa documetnation doesnt cover any failures heh |
05:13 | <knight-> | lythe, have you checked on the alsa mailing lists? |
05:14 | <lythe> | not yet |
05:15 | <lythe> | you think i should check alsa-user? |
05:15 | <knight-> | yep |
05:17 | <lythe> | seems its not uncommon problem, uncommon answer though :) |
05:32 | <knight-> | is ~/.mythtv/lircrc the same as ~/.lircrc? |
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06:23 | <marc> | morning |
06:24 | <marc> | after cutting and pasting XF86Config's, I now have one that does most of what I want |
06:24 | <marc> | however, Mythfrontend doesn't show any texts |
06:25 | <marc> | looking up the output of 'startx', I can see that it doesn't seem to find various font path elements. |
06:25 | <marc> | although the folders are there. |
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06:33 | <o_cee> | TheWildgoose: there? |
06:47 | <o_cee> | what's the format of the PID settings for dvb? |
06:49 | <o_cee> | but maybe i should try the new patch instead.. |
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07:11 | <o_cee> | very quiet today |
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08:08 | <oc> | TheWildgoose? |
08:10 | <oc> | Chutt? |
08:12 | <oc> | can't figure out the dvb settings.. i'm just getting DVBChannel ERROR: Checkchannel could not verify channel!.. anyone with working dvb who could share some knowledge? |
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08:16 | <oc> | guess you're all sleeping. heh |
08:18 | <monkeyBox> | how do I manually transcode my recording? I tried pressing "x" but I don't see anything hapening... |
08:18 | <oc> | is it playing while you press x? |
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08:18 | <monkeyBox> | yes |
08:19 | <o_cee> | check with ps if it's running, not sure if it outputs anything |
08:19 | <monkeyBox> | is the transcoder a separate process? |
08:19 | <o_cee> | i'd think so, but i don't know that much really |
08:30 | <o_cee> | whepp |
08:31 | <o_cee> | a funny thread i saw on a forum was to past whatever you had in your cut&paste.. there was a lot of strange stuff in there, alot of people who posted :) (and explained) |
08:32 | <o_cee> | but since there's no people here, ah well |
08:32 | <o_cee> | me is bored. takes time to compile myth even with 2ghz |
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08:53 | <o_cee> | hmm, not getting the new dvb patches to compile.. |
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08:56 | <marc> | hello |
08:56 | <o_cee> | hello |
08:56 | <marc> | Mythfrontend doesn't show any text anymore in the menus... |
08:56 | <marc> | happen to have a clue? |
08:57 | <o_cee> | redhat? |
08:58 | <marc> | debian |
08:58 | <o_cee> | think i saw something about that in the docs for redhat.. |
08:58 | <o_cee> | but i dunno |
08:58 | <marc> | mythtv docs or redhat docs=? |
08:59 | <o_cee> | myth |
09:00 | <marc> | thanks... will look there |
09:01 | <o_cee> | wouldn't that be the place to start looking? |
09:01 | <marc> | skimming over it I was, but have missed probably |
09:05 | <marc> | o_cee ... couldn't see anything that made me stop in the doc..? |
09:05 | <o_cee> | then i'm probaly wrong |
09:06 | <marc> | thanks anyway |
09:07 | <o_cee> | ;/ |
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09:51 | <oc> | QMYSQLResult::data: column 13 out of range <-- what does that one mean? |
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09:55 | <o_cee> | :\ |
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10:15 | <mrallen> | during 'mythfilldatabase' i'm getting a bunch of 'Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file' |
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10:45 | <duende> | I need a bit of install help with mythtv. I'm running gentoo, and i'm following docs on the site pretty carefully (as far as i know). I'm to the point now where i'm suppose to run mythsetup, but the program fails with various SQL errors such as "QSqlDatabase warning : QMYSQL3 driver not loaded", "Unable to connect to database", etc. (there's about 11 lines of errors/warnings). Does anyone have any idea? |
10:45 | <tzanger> | What kind of processor requirements are there for a mythtv client? Does the video get encoded/decoded on it or? |
10:55 | <duende> | i don't understand why this won't work |
10:56 | <jkolb> | duende: You probably didn't have 'mysql' in your USE flags when you emerged qt. |
10:56 | <duende> | ahh |
10:56 | <duende> | thank you so much jkolb |
10:56 | <jkolb> | np |
10:56 | <duende> | i compiled qt yesterday |
10:57 | <jkolb> | cat /var/db/pkg/x11-libs/qt-<version>/USE to see what your flags were when you emerged it. |
10:58 | <duende> | jkolb: yeah, no mysql in there |
10:58 | <duende> | the QMYSQL3 should have been a goo dhint to me |
10:58 | <jkolb> | You'll need to emerge it again, then. |
10:58 | <duende> | yeah, i'm emerging now |
10:58 | <jkolb> | See you in a few hours. |
10:58 | <duende> | qt is pretty quick for me |
10:59 | <duende> | Xfree takes me about an hour |
10:59 | <tzanger> | I want to take that weather app and make a regular Qt app out of it :-) |
10:59 | <jkolb> | Wow. |
10:59 | <jkolb> | What proc? |
10:59 | <duende> | nothing special |
10:59 | <duende> | athlon xp 1800+ |
10:59 | <duende> | surprises me too |
10:59 | <duende> | but i timed it yesterday |
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11:29 | <mrallen> | how does myth do clients? iow, how do diskless mythtv clients talk to the server? |
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13:14 | <tzanger> | Will something like a VIA C3 system work for a mythtv frontend (single TV, AC3 passthrough) i.e. will it be able ot record live tv? |
13:25 | <tmk> | if you set it to low-res |
13:25 | <tmk> | the cpus are too weak for full-res video |
13:26 | <tzanger> | so 704x480 or whatever is out of the question. damn. |
13:27 | <tmk> | oh yeah |
13:27 | <tmk> | you're lookin like 320x240 |
13:27 | <tzanger> | what about underclocking a 1200+ AMD? |
13:27 | <tmk> | underclocking? |
13:27 | <tzanger> | yeah |
13:27 | <lythe> | heh |
13:27 | <tzanger> | so I can run passive cooling on it |
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13:28 | <jkolb> | tzanger: What sort of capture card are you planning on having in this machine? |
13:28 | <Chutt> | a nehemiah m10k is ok as a frontend with a pvr-250 |
13:28 | <tmk> | hey chutt: do you have your 350 hooked up to a TV |
13:28 | <Chutt> | not at the moment |
13:28 | <tzanger> | jkolb: I only have a BT878 card right now. eventually I want to do DVB capture since I am on ExpressVu (in Canada) |
13:29 | <vektor> | tzanger: Are you familiar with the issues of decrypting DVB content for ExpressVu? |
13:29 | <tmk> | hmm |
13:30 | <tmk> | i read a report that the decoder code in CVS works |
13:30 | <tmk> | much to my surprise |
13:30 | <tmk> | since it doesn't for me (it's choppy) |
13:30 | <vektor> | I have seen some of these add-on PCI cards for the encryption cardreader things, but I'm still unclear on whether or not it actually works in Linux with ExpressVu. |
13:30 | <tmk> | i'm wondering if it's a slow-box issue |
13:30 | <vektor> | The kernel-dvb driver is all done by PAL users who receive non-encrypted content. |
13:30 | <tzanger> | vektor: yeah but these DVB cards take the CAM (they're like $700 from Germany IIRC) -- so it's a "plain" DVB signal once it's done |
13:31 | <vektor> | So you'd buy some CAM module, am I getting this right? |
13:31 | <tzanger> | well no I'd use the CAM (smart card) from my current expressvu receiver |
13:31 | <tzanger> | I am a paying subscriber |
13:32 | <vektor> | Yeah but then you need a place to stick the card :) |
13:32 | <vektor> | I mean, I don't think the Hauppauge DVB card comes with one by default. |
13:32 | <vektor> | It's something you have to purchase separately. |
13:32 | <tzanger> | vektor: yes, they have a slot |
13:32 | <vektor> | Oh? |
13:32 | <tzanger> | yeah let me see if I can dig up a link |
13:32 | <vektor> | So, then why aren't more people using this? :) |
13:32 | | * vektor feels like buying one. |
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13:36 | <mechou> | hey, choenig, how are you doing? |
13:36 | <choenig> | fine :-) |
13:37 | <choenig> | mechou: did you make any advance ? |
13:37 | <mechou> | choenig, I gave up trying getting wol to work on k7s5a |
13:37 | <choenig> | sad |
13:37 | <choenig> | and how about the bios stuff? |
13:37 | <mechou> | figured out any short can restart computer, which was what happened yesterday. |
13:38 | <mechou> | nvram is also sad.... |
13:38 | <choenig> | why? |
13:38 | <mechou> | do I need to call hwclock -systohc if I'm using ntp? |
13:39 | <mechou> | nvram complains my linux system is not in sync with rtc.... |
13:39 | <tzanger> | http://www.dvb-portal.de/oscn/modules.php?name=oscn_catalog&file=advanced_search_result.php&keywords=PCI&x=0&y=0 |
13:39 | <tzanger> | I thought it was one of those, but neither show a daughercard for the CAM |
13:39 | <choenig> | mechou: don't know, never had any issues like that |
13:39 | <tzanger> | actually the TT-DVBsat PCI 1.3 seems to show it |
13:40 | <mechou> | and thats absolutely correct in the case of ntp, Bios clock only gets read on startup (and written on shutdown) |
13:40 | <tzanger> | but Seca, Alphacrypt and Viaaccess (no nagravision) |
13:40 | <Chutt> | there. |
13:41 | <Chutt> | mostly have the cle266 decoder working |
13:41 | <mechou> | choenig, are you using ntp on your systems? |
13:41 | <choenig> | mechou: and it works after you syched it? |
13:41 | <choenig> | yes |
13:41 | <choenig> | on all of'em |
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13:41 | <vektor> | tzanger: I just get worried when it's so hard to find canadian companies that sell these cards. |
13:42 | <mechou> | choenig, so your rtc is alwas in sync with ntp time??? |
13:42 | <choenig> | mechou: I don't know, I never tested that |
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13:43 | <tzanger> | yeah |
13:43 | <mechou> | are you in front of one of the comps that has nvram and ntp? |
13:43 | <choenig> | mechou: i don't know how to get the rtc time |
13:43 | <choenig> | mechou: nope, as I said, I cannot use nvram stuff due to my epox board, which is not supported... |
13:43 | <choenig> | mechou: but I used to use it with the one before |
13:43 | <mechou> | ok, do "nvram-wakeup -D" and tell me what's on the last 4 lines |
13:44 | <mechou> | oh, sorry.... |
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13:44 | <choenig> | but I'll check again, if smth changed... hold on |
13:46 | <choenig> | oh I hate that sf.net crap |
13:47 | <tzanger> | damned nagravision |
13:48 | <mechou> | choenig, because rtc on most systems is notoriously inaccurate, I think possibly wol (with ntp) is a better sol'n. I'm going to change out the k7s5a... |
13:49 | <choenig> | mechou: thats right, my systems are off > 1 min/day |
13:49 | <mechou> | and I don't think it's ntp's "job" to keep rtc to millisecond accuracy.... |
13:50 | <mechou> | that's the whole point of using ntp, right? :) |
13:50 | <choenig> | its the problem, when the computer is off. when its on you don't have to care about the rtc |
13:51 | <choenig> | a nice little external clock which you set from the computer would be a neat sollution |
13:51 | <mechou> | this wakeup stuff is much more a PITA than I originally imagined, mostly because of this POS k7s5a.... |
13:52 | <mechou> | so this is going take me a while ;) |
13:53 | <choenig> | have you tried diff'rent bios versions? in the usenet I read, that that could help |
13:54 | <mechou> | I tried scouring newsnet regarding the m/b. a lot of puzzled people wondering if wol works on m/b at all. Nothing real dinitive, like someone saying "I got wol to work this way...." |
13:54 | <choenig> | yeah, thats what I read, too |
13:55 | <mikegrb> | hmmm any recommendations on a command line tool to capture an image from a V4L source? |
13:56 | <tzanger> | what are (in your opinions') best choices for full-res vid cap cards |
13:56 | <Chutt> | pvr-250/350 |
13:57 | <Chutt> | easily =) |
13:57 | <tzanger> | that's the hauppage card? |
13:58 | <mikegrb> | ahh got it with v4lctrl |
13:58 | <Chutt> | yup |
13:58 | <Chutt> | good quality, no cpu usage on recording |
13:58 | <tzanger> | hmm |
13:58 | <Chutt> | slightly higher playback requirements |
13:59 | <Chutt> | and slightly higher storage requirements, but, that's more than offset by the hardware encoding |
14:00 | <mechou> | choenig, it would be nice if nvram-wakeup was smart enough to look in the drift file and set rtc w/o regard wheter it is in sync with system time. It just needs to be "close" |
14:00 | <mechou> | when the system is up,that is.... |
14:01 | <jkolb> | Chutt: The CLE266 is the via on-board decoder? |
14:01 | <Chutt> | yup. |
14:01 | <Chutt> | well, it's the chipset name |
14:01 | | * Chutt stayed up late last night. |
14:02 | <jkolb> | See Mars? |
14:02 | <Chutt> | no, i was slaving over a hot computer to get that crap working |
14:02 | <Chutt> | :p |
14:02 | <jkolb> | I flew back from Oregon and went straight from the airport to the observatory. Still got there too late to use the big scope. |
14:03 | <jkolb> | They only had it open until midnight. |
14:03 | <mechou> | what observatory in OR?? |
14:03 | <jkolb> | Flew back from OR. To Orlando. Went to the observatory at UCF. |
14:03 | <mikegrb> | jkolb: we went to myrtle beach this last weekend, saw it from the beach :) |
14:03 | <mechou> | oh... |
14:04 | <jkolb> | I asked around while in OR, and noone there seemed to think there was one. |
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14:04 | <mechou> | yeah, Iknow, I used to live there... |
14:04 | <engie> | Hi. Where can I get the .deb packages from? Thanks |
14:04 | <jkolb> | I tried to spot if from the plane, but I was on the wrong side. |
14:04 | <choenig> | mechou: why don't you simply call hwclock right before the nvram-stuff? |
14:05 | <mechou> | generally the plexiglass windows would be too scratchy for than anyways... |
14:06 | <jkolb> | The windows weren't too bad, and Mars was really bright from the ground, so I would imagine that it would have been really nice from the air. I would have gotten a really nice view were I allowed in the cockpit. |
14:06 | <mechou> | choenig, I could, but won't that though off ntp drif file on subsequent reboots?? Not an expert on this stuff.... |
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14:07 | <marc> | hello |
14:07 | <marc> | I have a bit of a problem with mythfrontend: it does not display any texts at all |
14:07 | <jkolb> | I used 'really' too many times in that last msg. |
14:08 | <marc> | just noticed it outputs errormessages referring to 'QTextParag::Lineinfo' |
14:08 | <choenig> | mechou: I don't know, but I don't think that that should be a problem. but I'm not an expert either |
14:10 | <mechou> | choenig, yeah, I don't think it should be too big a problem. probably setting rtc through ntpdc would be safest (makes coreections to drift file at the same time).... |
14:12 | <mechou> | jkolb, whereabout in OR were u? The good thing in OR is that there isn't much light pollution not far from the cities.... |
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14:13 | <jkolb> | Eugene. Had to fix some problems that the Ducks were having with one of our systems. |
14:13 | <mechou> | don't know about cloud cover and turbulence, though.... |
14:14 | <jkolb> | Noone that I talked to had access to any sort of telescope. |
14:14 | <mechou> | did you check the astronomy dept at UO? (don't know if there is one...) |
14:14 | <jkolb> | School isn't in session there or anything, so it was really just the football team around, and they're not generally known for being avid stargazers. |
14:15 | <mechou> | hehe, not those stars, but other heavenly bodies... |
14:17 | <marc> | anybody on my text problem? |
14:23 | <marc> | sorry guys - didn't want to break your chat ;-) |
14:24 | <mechou> | choenig, if I wanted to use wol for mythtv, I'd like to use my file server as alarm clock. mysql & myth isn't installed on that. What sw do I need on the fileserver? |
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14:29 | <choenig> | mechou: I only need 'at' daemon and (x)inetd |
14:29 | <choenig> | thats all |
14:29 | <choenig> | and wol of course =) |
14:29 | <mechou> | cool. so the "alarm" script gets pumped to the fileserver from MBE via netcat? |
14:30 | <choenig> | right |
14:30 | <choenig> | as I wrote int that little README |
14:30 | <mechou> | yeah, just doublechecking.... |
14:30 | <choenig> | ok |
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14:32 | <mechou> | the other day I recorded two programs at the same time. One was 1 hr, the other was 2hr. unfortunatly the 1hr prog. got recorded on MBE, and 2hr prog on SBE |
14:33 | <mechou> | so both systems needed to stay up for 2 hrs, whereas theoretically one could have shut off after 1 hr. |
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14:34 | <choenig> | my stuff doesn't see diff'rent BEs as diff'rent machines. It treats them like one. I think its to hard to distinguish for that |
14:34 | <mechou> | chutt say the tuner affinity in this case had to do with the chanid, lower channels gets assigned to the 1 available tuner. |
14:35 | <mechou> | right, I wondering with the ranking stuff this behavir could be changed. Longest program gets 1st available tuner.... |
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14:43 | <mechou> | help names |
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15:41 | <o_cee> | erhm |
15:41 | <o_cee> | Kenneth not here, no? |
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15:57 | <harrih> | Hello, anyone else have a problem with frontend freezing (rebuffering all over and over again) after fast forward |
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16:22 | <monkeyBox> | Strange, I just transcoded a MPEG2 tv show recorded from PVR-250 and now the sound isn't working on that recording. I used the default settings for transcode.. any ideas? |
16:23 | <tmk> | there was a thread about that on the mailing-list |
16:23 | <tmk> | did you set the audio to the same settings as the pvr file? |
16:23 | <monkeyBox> | tmk: umm, not sure.. I had it set to mp3 in the transcode profile |
16:24 | <monkeyBox> | how would I know what the original pvr file used? |
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16:35 | <monkeyBox> | The recording profile used was MPEG4/MP3.. |
16:35 | <monkeyBox> | any ideas as to why the sound wouldn't work after transcoding? |
16:36 | <Chutt> | read the mailing lists. |
16:36 | <Chutt> | this was _just_ on there |
16:38 | <monkeyBox> | hmm.. ok I searched for transcode no sound... the first post that came up was unreplied.. I'll keep browsing.. |
16:38 | <tmk> | pvr is 48khz, 16bi, 384kbps |
16:39 | <monkeyBox> | tmk: oh I see.. so I need to set it to the same as that? |
16:39 | <tmk> | i think that's what hte mailing list said |
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16:39 | <monkeyBox> | I'm curious, where are those settings stored in the database? I looked at the recordingprofiles table but there was only 4 fields.. |
16:39 | <tmk> | dunno, the PVR cards are kind of special |
16:40 | <tmk> | Chutt: have you considered sucking out the mpg frames and putting it in .nuv format? |
16:40 | <Chutt> | no real reason to |
16:40 | <Chutt> | i did originally think about that |
16:41 | <tmk> | k |
16:44 | <monkeyBox> | Chutt: is this the thread you were talking about? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/no_sound_in_the_autotranscoded_nuvs_P78168/ |
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16:59 | <tmk> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=78098;search_string=transcode%20pvr;guest=1086684&t=search_engine |
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17:03 | <monkeyBox> | oh ok... I was looking at that one as well.. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait until I get home to play with it. |
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17:21 | <monkeyBox> | Oh sweet... I had no idea there was a knoppix MythTV!! now I can pop it into my other windows commputers and really test out the frontend capabilities |
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17:24 | <tmk> | what's knoppix? |
17:25 | <sfr> | tmk: a plug and play debian :) |
17:25 | <tmk> | i see. |
17:25 | <tmk> | how does that involve windows? |
17:25 | <sfr> | tmk: i said plug and play |
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17:27 | <sfr> | tmk: as it's fully usable when booted from cd, but a hdd install is also possible |
17:28 | <tmk> | ah |
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17:35 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: you still around? |
17:41 | <jarodwilson> | note that the knoppMyth CD doesn't have ivtv driver though |
17:41 | <jarodwilson> | The CD creator doesn't have a card, so he hasn't included support |
17:41 | <jarodwilson> | He's got an AVerTV Studio, I believe. |
17:47 | <tmk> | a shame |
17:48 | <tmk> | everyone should use ivtv! |
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18:03 | <knight-> | hey |
18:05 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch: if you're around or get this in scroll back I have the http status server doo hickie now reporting if each encoder is active |
18:06 | <mikegrb> | heh guess he won't see it though <g>.... he isn't aruond |
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18:09 | <knight-> | damn this hauppage grey remote :P |
18:09 | <tmk> | knight-: there's lirc configs in the utils/ dir for it |
18:10 | <knight-> | yep, i am using them :) |
18:10 | <knight-> | irw shows the keys |
18:10 | <knight-> | mythfrontend connects to lircd |
18:10 | <knight-> | although, nothing happens when i use the remote in mythfrontend |
18:10 | <knight-> | is ~/.mythtv/lircrc the same as ~/.lircrc? |
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18:39 | <knight-> | hmm |
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18:47 | <knight-> | yeah something is weird about native lirc on my system |
18:47 | <knight-> | irxevent works |
18:51 | <knight-> | oh maybe mythtv bound against /usr/lib/liblirc_client* and not /usr/local/lib/liblirc_client* |
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19:13 | <jarodwilson> | Yes, tmk, everyone SHOULD use ivtv! |
19:13 | <tmk> | :) |
19:13 | <jarodwilson> | And the grey hauppauge remote work perfectly when set up right. |
19:13 | <jarodwilson> | :) |
19:14 | <jarodwilson> | Frankly, I'm finding all other cards to be relative junk, compared w/the PVR-x50s |
19:14 | <n1hck> | so if anyone is wondering.. PCHDTV card is awsome |
19:14 | <jarodwilson> | (I have 3 other cards besides the PVR-250, and thy all suck) |
19:14 | <n1hck> | but working with an ivtv card at the same time |
19:14 | <n1hck> | is sketchy |
19:14 | <tmk> | cool, what resolution does it capture at? |
19:14 | <n1hck> | 1920x1088 |
19:14 | <n1hck> | all 18 ASTC digital formans |
19:14 | <jarodwilson> | That would be the only other card I'd take over a PVR-x50 |
19:14 | <n1hck> | formats |
19:14 | <n1hck> | but thats the highest |
19:14 | <tmk> | is it mpg2 or what |
19:15 | <jarodwilson> | I'm planning on getting one soon too... |
19:15 | <n1hck> | well ivtv card and pchdtv dont like to do stuff at the same time so I have to reboot to switch back to the other one |
19:15 | <jarodwilson> | hdtv is streamed in mpeg2 |
19:15 | <tmk> | yeah that's what i thought |
19:15 | <n1hck> | so by default I boot with ivtv but if I want I switch to hdtv and if i want to switch back i have to reboot |
19:15 | <jarodwilson> | so the card doesn't even have to encode; just write to disk |
19:15 | <tmk> | you can't just rmmod ivtv? |
19:15 | <jarodwilson> | Huh. |
19:15 | <n1hck> | here is what I do |
19:15 | <n1hck> | boot with ivtv |
19:15 | <jarodwilson> | I'll have to see if I can't get both working at once... |
19:15 | <n1hck> | ok i wanna do hdtv now |
19:16 | <n1hck> | rmmod ivtv modprobe bttv (modified for dtv stuff) the pchdtv driver |
19:16 | <n1hck> | ok hdtv stuff. now I want ivtv stuff back |
19:16 | <n1hck> | rmmod bttv |
19:16 | <n1hck> | modprobe ivtv |
19:16 | <tmk> | oh ok |
19:16 | <n1hck> | capture mpeg CRASHES |
19:16 | <n1hck> | so I found rebooting at this point allows ivtv to work again |
19:16 | <tmk> | hm. define crashes |
19:16 | <n1hck> | lock up machine |
19:16 | <tmk> | what error |
19:16 | <n1hck> | ivtv itself crashes and locks my machine completley |
19:16 | <n1hck> | no error |
19:16 | <n1hck> | just FREEZ |
19:16 | <tmk> | well, it probably generates an oops of some kind |
19:16 | <n1hck> | I hear a blip of audio and a FREEZ and thats that |
19:16 | <jarodwilson> | Not good. |
19:16 | <n1hck> | probably |
19:17 | <tmk> | n1hck, are you near that box now? |
19:17 | <tmk> | i have some new code that might fix the crash |
19:17 | <n1hck> | in any case, im sure they will work better once dtv stuff is in bttv and when ivtv matures im sure it will be better |
19:17 | <n1hck> | I am |
19:17 | <jarodwilson> | Is it possible both are trying to use /dev/video0 in some incompatible way? |
19:17 | <n1hck> | I am actually |
19:17 | <n1hck> | I dont know |
19:17 | <tmk> | msg me your email address |
19:17 | <n1hck> | tmk |
19:17 | <tmk> | i'll send you new code |
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19:17 | <n1hck> | i dialouged you tmk |
19:17 | <tmk> | i answered |
19:17 | <tmk> | :) |
19:20 | <knight-> | n1hck, dtv stuff? |
19:21 | <knight-> | jarodwilson, i copied ivtv/utils/lircd-g.conf to /etc/lircd.conf and it works fine with irw, but mythfrontend doesnt even move... i copied lircrc to ~/.mythtv/lircrc too |
19:22 | <jarodwilson> | your lircrc file should actually go in ~/.lircrc |
19:22 | <knight-> | i have it there too |
19:22 | <jarodwilson> | make sure irxevent is started |
19:23 | <knight-> | uhhh |
19:23 | <jarodwilson> | then everything SHOULD work |
19:23 | <knight-> | i'm talking about native lirc |
19:23 | <jarodwilson> | Aha. |
19:23 | <knight-> | irxevent works fine |
19:23 | <jarodwilson> | My mistake. |
19:23 | <jarodwilson> | I haven't played w/native yet |
19:23 | <knight-> | ahh |
19:23 | <jarodwilson> | Where is your lircrc from? |
19:23 | <knight-> | ivtv |
19:24 | <jarodwilson> | The one I'm thinking of relies on irxevent, but then I haven't looked at recent versions... |
19:24 | <knight-> | right, so is there a native mythtv lircrc version? |
19:25 | <jarodwilson> | Not sure yet. I'm sure someone has one, otherwise there'd be no way to test the functionality... |
19:25 | <knight-> | right |
19:25 | <jarodwilson> | But the one from ivtv most likely won't cut it, since everything relies on irxevent |
19:25 | <Chutt> | posted to the mailing list along with the initial native lirc patch. |
19:25 | <jarodwilson> | I'm not sure what changes are needed. |
19:25 | <jarodwilson> | Aha. |
19:25 | <knight-> | Chutt, ah thanks |
19:26 | <jarodwilson> | Is the lirc patch included in 0.11? |
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19:26 | <Chutt> | yup. |
19:27 | <mattfelsen> | i'm still getting blocky fonts in myth...i installed msttcorefonts and set up defoma (added the font paths) but no luck. i think it might be the actual font files though because the sasquatch osd, which uses its own tahoma.ttf, looks fine |
19:27 | <jarodwilson> | So just drop in a new lircrc, and I should be golden, right? :) |
19:28 | <Chutt> | amazing, things compile again |
19:28 | <sc00p> | speaking of native lirc support, does anyone know how to get Page_Up and Page_Down working properly? |
19:28 | <knight-> | jarod, as long as you enabled lirc |
19:28 | <Chutt> | now time to see if they work. |
19:28 | <knight-> | in settings.pro |
19:28 | <jarodwilson> | Ah. |
19:28 | <Chutt> | the 0.11 rpms don't, i don't think. |
19:28 | <jarodwilson> | I'm running it from the 0.11 ATrpms |
19:29 | <jarodwilson> | I'll talk to Axel and see about cutting some rpms w/native lirc enabled |
19:29 | <mattfelsen> | well if we're on the subject of lirc...do the keys [, ], and | have names that are supposed to be used in .lircrc? |
19:29 | <mattfelsen> | channel up/down works, but volume up/down/mute doesn't |
19:29 | <mattfelsen> | and yea, i checked button names to make sure |
19:30 | <knight-> | fyi, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=1647;guest=1087369&t=search_engine is the link to the lircrc file included with the initial native lirc patch |
19:30 | <knight-> | to be placed in ~/.mythtv |
19:31 | <jarodwilson> | danke |
19:31 | <mattfelsen> | oh, and on the blocky font note...the sasquatch osd looks nice and smooth, but the normal theme is blocky like the others |
19:32 | <knight-> | but it doesnt seem to help |
19:32 | <knight-> | still no response from mythfrontend |
19:32 | <jarodwilson> | Hm... |
19:36 | <mattfelsen> | and back to lirc...where is a list of key names that are supposed to be used? |
19:37 | <knight-> | lircd.conf |
19:37 | <knight-> | and keys.txt |
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19:39 | <mattfelsen> | no, the key names for .lircrc |
19:39 | <mattfelsen> | like...i have "config = Key [ CurrentWindow" for one of the buttons, but it has no effect |
19:39 | <mattfelsen> | so i'm assuming that i need to use something like "Key LeftBracket CurrentWindow" or such |
19:42 | <jarodwilson> | most likely... |
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19:51 | <jarodwilson> | The lirc docs are quite lacking with respect to what keys should be called... |
19:51 | <mattfelsen> | yea, that's what i thought |
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19:57 | <knight-> | anyone else getting HEADER ERRORs with latest cvs? |
19:57 | <Chutt> | you didn't do what it said in the commit message |
19:57 | <Chutt> | =) |
19:58 | <knight-> | :) which commit message |
19:58 | <Chutt> | the only one today |
19:58 | <Chutt> | i even cc'd it to the -dev list so people would see |
19:59 | <mattfelsen> | Chutt: is there a reason my keybindings patch never got committed? |
19:59 | <Chutt> | because i've been busy |
19:59 | <Chutt> | and i never got around to it |
19:59 | <mattfelsen> | no prob, just wondering |
19:59 | <mattfelsen> | does anyone have volume, mute, page up/down working with lirc? |
20:00 | <mattfelsen> | i can't figure out the button names for any of those |
20:00 | <mattfelsen> | or key names, rather |
20:00 | <knight-> | ahh distclean |
20:00 | <knight-> | ok |
20:02 | <mattfelsen> | is there a difference between clean and distclean? |
20:03 | <sc00p> | mattfelsen: are you using irxevent or the native lirc support? |
20:03 | <mattfelsen> | irxevent for now |
20:03 | <knight-> | i'm using native |
20:03 | <sc00p> | for irxevent, mute is Shift-bar |
20:04 | <sc00p> | volume is bracketleft, bracketright |
20:04 | <mattfelsen> | ah, cool |
20:04 | <mattfelsen> | with that case? |
20:04 | <knight-> | just look in the lircrc i posted the url to |
20:04 | <sc00p> | yeah |
20:04 | <mattfelsen> | knight-: it said the attachment didn't exist |
20:05 | <knight-> | sure it does |
20:05 | <knight-> | if you were using wget, put quotes around the url |
20:05 | <knight-> | since it has amp's |
20:05 | <mattfelsen> | can you post the link again? |
20:05 | <knight-> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=1647;guest=1087369&t=search_engine |
20:06 | <mattfelsen> | same error |
20:06 | <knight-> | heh you're doing something wrong then :) |
20:07 | <knight-> | just look for the initial native lirc post |
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20:10 | <jarodwilson> | I clicked the link in X-Chat, and the attachment just downloaded. :) |
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20:10 | <knight-> | :) |
20:14 | <mattfelsen> | hmm PgUp/PgDown don't work |
20:15 | <sc00p> | for irxevent it's Page_Up, Page_Down |
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20:24 | <mattfelsen> | are the key names different for irxevent vs. native lirc? |
20:24 | <sc00p> | yup =\ |
20:24 | <sc00p> | some of them are the same, but in general they're different |
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20:40 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch: you around? |
20:45 | <ahbritto> | Captain_Murdoch: ping |
20:45 | <ahbritto> | whoops |
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21:07 | <jarodwilson> | stupid power... |
21:10 | <tmk> | is that like super-power? |
21:12 | <jarodwilson> | not quite. anti-super-power, maybe... |
21:12 | <jarodwilson> | Crappy wiring, too many computers on one circuit... |
21:13 | <jarodwilson> | I really need a dedicated 30A for my office... :) |
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21:28 | <Chutt> | heh |
21:28 | <Chutt> | so 18 hojillion people wrote in when via put out their version of xine with the decoder support |
21:29 | <Chutt> | i get that mostly working, and ..... nothing |
21:33 | <tmk> | eh? |
21:33 | <knight-> | eh? |
21:34 | | * bbeattie gives Chutt kudos |
21:35 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: I have an int I want to send to the front end like this "SendResponse(pbssock, retlist)" can I just say "QStringList retlist = MyInt;" or will that cause a type problem? |
21:35 | <bbeattie> | sometimes not hearing anything should be a nice reward. |
21:37 | <mikegrb> | ahhh QString::number(MyInt) |
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21:44 | <FryGuy> | anyone see the slashdot article about the EPIA M decoder being reverse engineered? |
21:44 | <mikegrb> | didn't see that, read the site though |
21:44 | <FryGuy> | http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/29/0052217&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=156&tid=188 |
21:44 | <FryGuy> | my obligatory reference to mythtv too :) |
21:45 | <Chutt> | the decoder wasn't reverse engineered. |
21:45 | <Chutt> | i've said that 3 fucking times on the mailing list now |
21:45 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: :-) |
21:45 | <Chutt> | a little wrapper library that talks to a binary kernel modules was decompiled. |
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21:45 | <Chutt> | whoop-de-frickin-do |
21:46 | <FryGuy> | bleh |
21:46 | <mikegrb> | they just did the library not the kernel module, right? |
21:46 | <FryGuy> | oh well. |
21:46 | <mikegrb> | yes |
21:46 | <FryGuy> | The lesser EPIA's have decoder cards, right? |
21:46 | <FryGuy> | not just the nememiah? |
21:46 | <Chutt> | the library is utterly useless without the kernel module |
21:46 | <Chutt> | it's any epia-m |
21:47 | <FryGuy> | so the 450Mhz one then? |
21:47 | <Chutt> | is that an -m? |
21:48 | <FryGuy> | I guess not |
21:48 | <Chutt> | i'm only familar with the nehemiah |
21:48 | <jarodwilson> | The decoder only works on EPIAs w/ the CLE266 chipset |
21:48 | <jarodwilson> | slower EPIAs have a different chipset |
21:49 | <jarodwilson> | and it is NOT supported. |
21:49 | <jarodwilson> | bbeattie: You said I should find you here if I wanted a pcHDTV card... |
21:49 | <jarodwilson> | Well, I WANT! |
21:51 | <Chutt> | jarod, you shouldn't select 'hardware mjpeg' as the codec with a pvr-250 |
21:52 | <tmk> | why does everyone seem to do that |
21:53 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
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21:53 | <jarodwilson> | ? |
21:53 | <jarodwilson> | What am I missing? |
21:54 | <Chutt> | mpeg2 is not mjpeg |
21:54 | <jarodwilson> | (I'm not looking at my system w/PVR-250 in it...) |
21:54 | <jarodwilson> | ack. |
21:54 | <jarodwilson> | uno momento... |
21:54 | <Chutt> | for pvr-250 encodes, it doesn't matter yet which one you select |
21:54 | <Chutt> | as the only thing that gets used is the resolution |
21:54 | <Chutt> | setting it to hardware mjpeg means you can't use a normal card in the system along with it |
21:55 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, hey, ya here? |
21:55 | <jarodwilson> | Oh. I feel like a dumb-ass. |
21:55 | <jarodwilson> | (I was very confused for a sec, cuz that's what I had on my PVR-250 system; I just checked) |
21:56 | | * bbeattie curses dvi |
21:57 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: you around? |
21:57 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, how annoyed would you be if i committed something that may break commercial detection? =) |
21:58 | <mikegrb> | heh |
21:59 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | yeah |
22:00 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | chutt break how? something I could fix easily? I'm heading out of town for a while and won't have myth access while I'm gone. |
22:00 | <Chutt> | i'm re-doing the video buffer internals |
22:00 | <ahbritto> | Captain_Murdoch_: I noticed commerical detection is flaky on Oxygen: la femme nikita, xena, and movies. |
22:00 | <Chutt> | i think i've got everything fixed |
22:00 | <jarodwilson> | Well, that Dana guy still needs to do some reading before spamming up the lists... :) |
22:01 | <jarodwilson> | I replied to myself, confessing my stupidity... |
22:01 | <Chutt> | i already did |
22:01 | <Chutt> | no worries :p |
22:01 | <jarodwilson> | ;p |
22:01 | <jarodwilson> | I need to switch from digest mode, I think... |
22:02 | <Chutt> | oh |
22:02 | <Chutt> | i don't see anything different in the config for the two lists and digest mode |
22:03 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: I've just about got a new query the backend will recognize for see if recordings are in progress... my code works for the HTTP status stuff (it prints if each encorder is encoding or not) but I'm getting a compile error on the exact same code in my HandleIsRecording function... mind looking at the patch? |
22:03 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | Chutt, I'll take a quick look once you commit. I've been working on logo detection recently to try to help eliminate some false positives. |
22:03 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | mikegrb, sure if you want to email it to me. |
22:04 | <mikegrb> | okay, what address? |
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22:04 | <jarodwilson> | w/digest mode, it'll be a while before enough messages accumulate, and I get a digest w/that message in it. |
22:04 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | cpinkham@bc2va.org |
22:06 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | ahbritto: flakey comm detection how? |
22:06 | <ahbritto> | lots of false positives. |
22:06 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | so it skips part of the show? |
22:07 | <ahbritto> | yes |
22:07 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | does it have blank frames between shows or what? |
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22:08 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | I have that network on satellite but not on cable and my myth boxes are only connected to cable. |
22:08 | <ahbritto> | Actually, i didn't make a note of that, but it does work for some of the breaks. |
22:08 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: sent... right now it returns the number of in progress recordings but the line sent from the frontend is passed to the function so I figured default action would be return the number and if there were arguments that could ask for other stuff eg details of what is being recorded like you were interested in |
22:08 | <ahbritto> | I will pay more attention in the future. |
22:09 | <ahbritto> | Captain_Murdoch_: Would you like me to place a few shows on a web server for download? |
22:09 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | ahbritto: just trying to figure out why it's messing up. do you recall what kind of logo that station uses? |
22:10 | <ahbritto> | Extra-bright (whitish) small in the lower right corner. |
22:11 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: I'm sure the compile problem is simple but I'm not certain what is causing it.... it complains abt a function not existing, I guess a possibility is it isn't in the header as the HTTP stuff is at the bottom so the function would still be defined first |
22:11 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | ahbritto: might just be a good idea to wait until I commit the logo detection stuff and see if that helps out. is the logo opaque or transparent? |
22:11 | <mikegrb> | I'm gonna check that |
22:11 | <ahbritto> | Transparent |
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22:13 | <ahbritto> | Captain_Murdoch_: Thanks. I'll wait... :) |
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22:13 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | mikegrb, what function? |
22:15 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | nevermind. you need a capital 'I' on the isBusy. |
22:15 | <mikegrb> | agh |
22:15 | <mikegrb> | thank you mucho :-) |
22:15 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, committed stuff |
22:16 | <Chutt> | basically, i made the videooutput class own the video buffers |
22:16 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: I thought I copy n' pasted it from my trial run with the http stuff oh well <g> |
22:16 | <mikegrb> | thank you very much |
22:16 | <Chutt> | and made a VideoOutputNull class for stuff that's not actually displaying (like your commercial detection code) |
22:17 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: I'm going to finish this tonight if I have to not go to sleep :) |
22:17 | <Chutt> | it works for preview pixmaps/video, but i didn't test the commercial detector |
22:17 | <Chutt> | but the changes were pretty minor, so it shouldn't be an issue |
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22:17 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | chutt, I'll go update and run comm detection on a show comparing new results to original. |
22:17 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
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22:21 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ahbritto: do you run CVS? |
22:21 | <ahbritto> | Not usually, not for myth, but I could. |
22:21 | <Chutt> | current cvs may be a tad unstable |
22:22 | <newman234> | hey guys i have 2 questions ... 1) I don't have the /etc/init.d/lircd file but everything seems to be installed and 2) Although i can successfully test my remote using irw, i get an error message from irxevent saying it can't find the config file .. any ideas? |
22:22 | <Chutt> | i've committed quite a bit of crap today |
22:22 | <Captain_Murdoch> | just curious. I'll probably put the logo detection stuff in CVS in about a week and a half. don't think I'll get to it before I have to go out of town. |
22:23 | <ahbritto> | Captain_Murdoch: Would I need cvs, or could I just replace the file in v0.11? |
22:23 | <newman234> | btw i have myth tv up and running... with out the remote of course because of the failure of the irwevent app |
22:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | it's modifying about 3 files and I doubt they'd be compatible with 0.11 since there's been a few changes including Chutt's stuff just now. |
22:25 | <ahbritto> | Captain_Murdoch: I have a few machines, I can compile with cvs on one, just to do commerical detection testing. |
22:25 | <ahbritto> | Whenever you're ready... |
22:25 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok. I'll try to let you know when I've got that in so you can test oxygen. |
22:26 | <ahbritto> | Also, bravo seems unreliable. |
22:26 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok, I have that. I'll try to find something to record and test. |
22:26 | <ahbritto> | try the west wing. |
22:26 | <kja> | yeay, finally my myth was stable enough to build a release version, horray ;) |
22:26 | <ahbritto> | Captain_Murdoch: thanks again. :) |
22:26 | <Chutt> | kja, so is that dvb stuff stable? |
22:27 | <Chutt> | i've been not applying patches since i was breaking everything |
22:29 | <Chutt> | kja, oh, and you didn't include a link in your latest dvb patch |
22:31 | <kja> | it's very good here, but i'll run it for some days just to verify.. |
22:31 | <kja> | thanks for the reminder, fixed now :) |
22:31 | <Chutt> | in the email announcing it, i meant |
22:31 | <kja> | yea, just replyed to it =) |
22:33 | <kja> | i also have some reports that it has some problems on DVB-T/C |
22:33 | <Chutt> | oh, are you still using the xvmc stuff? |
22:33 | <Chutt> | i'll have that fixed up so it can still play back software encodes soon |
22:34 | <kja> | no, haven't tried it in a bit...are down to just over 10% load on the normal output, so... |
22:34 | <Chutt> | ah |
22:35 | <kja> | but what the heck, now that i'm running a stable system, it would be a refreshment to have some bugs in there again :) |
22:39 | <kja> | i'm pondering on whether expanded cam support or dvb hardware decoding should be my next *thing* |
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23:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: still here? |
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23:31 | <bline> | wow, first time I've been emailed personally about code I did.. |
23:33 | <Captain_Murdoch> | wait till you start getting "when are you gonna write feature XYZ" emails. :) |
23:35 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, commercial detection still seems to work as normal except for the fact that it now prints that "Over/underscanning" message. Can we only print that if winw and winh are non-zero in VideoOutput::Init() |
23:39 | <bline> | it was about the lirc stuff, i cced the users list |
23:40 | <bline> | kinda wish I didn't abuse qkeysequence now.. |
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23:42 | <linagee> | does anyone know why when you run out of disk space and go to delete a show why it hangs at the "Are you sure you want to delete this show?" screen? |
23:42 | <linagee> | is that a linux thing or a mythtv thing? |
23:42 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, yah, that's cool. |
23:43 | <linagee> | (i know linux itself probably doesn't like you running out of disk space entirely...) |
23:45 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: you want to commit or me to? that would print every time the flagging thread ran that's why it needs to be suppressed. |
23:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | linagee: is it a 0-byte file? |
23:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | shouldn't matter I guess. |
23:56 | <Chutt> | go ahead and commit it |
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23:58 | <o_cee> | kenneth? |
23:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: ok |
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