| --- | Log | opened Sat Aug 30 00:00:06 2003 |
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| 00:14 | <dwmurphy> | hyperm: did you look through http://www.lirc.org/faq.html ? |
| 00:15 | <hyperm> | ya i think i have it now |
| 00:15 | <hyperm> | the faq didnt help for anything |
| 00:16 | <dwmurphy> | aye.. but there was a link on there to some other help pages :) |
| 00:16 | <hyperm> | mythtv faq helped me somewhat |
| 00:17 | <hyperm> | i got into a problem that i didnt notice my kernel sources were slightly newer then my kernel |
| 00:17 | <hyperm> | cause i ran updater at different times |
| 00:17 | <hyperm> | and i didnt notice |
| 00:17 | <dwmurphy> | you could have just synlinked your kernel to a point under /usr/src |
| 00:17 | <dwmurphy> | ah |
| 00:17 | <hyperm> | very close ver like 20-19.9 and 20-20.9 |
| 00:18 | <hyperm> | just installed latest kernel going to see if i can get it to work now |
| 00:18 | <dwmurphy> | note: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html 8.3 |
| 00:18 | <hyperm> | yeah |
| 00:18 | <hyperm> | i saw that |
| 00:18 | <hyperm> | it was FAR better then the lirc docsw |
| 00:19 | <hyperm> | i didnt know symlink was off |
| 00:19 | <hyperm> | so that was messing up the whole compile ;/ |
| 00:20 | <dwmurphy> | yeah.. that will do it. i haven't even tried setting up my remote yet |
| 00:23 | <hyperm> | little tricky for someone not used to compiling linux kernels without detailed instructions heh |
| 00:26 | <dwmurphy> | yeah. it can be a bit overwhelming at first |
| 00:40 | <monkeyBox> | damn, I just dropped $450 bucks on a frontend setup :p |
| 00:41 | <monkeyBox> | Actually it was less than that |
| 00:44 | <monkeyBox> | ... under $300.. but diskless (no HD, no CD) I'm going to try booting it from the server, I may get a hard drive later.. unfortunately this case requires a 2.5" hd... |
| 00:47 | <hyperm> | bah i got new version of kernel and now nvidia stuff cant compile its kernel module ;/ |
| 00:51 | <dwmurphy> | monkeyBox: get gigabit ether :) |
| 00:51 | <dwmurphy> | hyperm: doh! i'm just sticking with the stick nv driver for now.. :) |
| 00:54 | <hyperm> | well i need tv out |
| 00:54 | <hyperm> | does nv driver do it? |
| 00:55 | <dwmurphy> | hmm.. i'm still using my monitor. i *think* it does.. let me do look |
| 00:55 | <monkeyBox> | dwmurphy: heh.. I think my mobo is only 10/100... |
| 00:55 | <monkeyBox> | would booting linux / X / mythfrontend from the server take way too long? |
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| 01:00 | <rkulagow> | hrmm. chutt, you still here? |
| 01:02 | <dwmurphy> | hyperm: yes.. the nv driver does it, and you can use nvtv to tweak the settings |
| 01:03 | <dwmurphy> | monkeyBox: i don't think it would be too bad at 100 mb/s |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, yeah |
| 01:04 | <rkulagow> | i'm trying to commit a change; cvs is giving me connection timeout. |
| 01:05 | <rkulagow> | is it my end? |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | try now |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | i had it unplugged =) |
| 01:05 | <rkulagow> | that's better. |
| 01:05 | <rkulagow> | thanks. |
| 01:07 | <dwmurphy> | chuckle |
| 01:07 | <dwmurphy> | all those bits on the floor |
| 01:08 | <JustinSan> | I'm having a problem getting mythtv to work... When I start up the front end and go to watch tv I just get a frozen black screen |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | justinsan, error message on the console you ran mythfrontend/mythbackend from |
| 01:09 | <JustinSan> | I can watch tv in xawtv though, so I know my drivers work to a degree |
| 01:09 | <JustinSan> | I am not sure, I just get a frozen black screen, I have to reboot |
| 01:09 | <JustinSan> | I am pretty new to linux :) |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | you don't have to reboot. |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | switch to the window you ran mythfrontend from. |
| 01:10 | <JustinSan> | I run it from windowmaker |
| 01:11 | <JustinSan> | and it goes fullscreen, how do I get back? |
| 01:11 | <JustinSan> | an xterm in windowmaker that is |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | i don't know |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | i don't run that crap. |
| 01:12 | <JustinSan> | what do you run? |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | kwin when i'm developing stuff. |
| 01:12 | <zzo> | try alt-tab to see hidden windows |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | all you have to do is figure out what the error message is. |
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| 01:15 | <JustinSan> | ok, I will try now |
| 01:16 | <robertj> | Chutt: so mplayer should be able to play files which have been run through the transcoder, right? |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | robertj, no. |
| 01:17 | <robertj> | hrm, is there any way to convert the .nv files to anything more standard? |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | there's several |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | one was even discussed quite a bit on the mailing list today. |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | and there's one linked to on the main website. |
| 01:18 | | * robertj scurries off to read the archives for today |
| 01:25 | <robertj> | Chutt: are you talking about the nuv -> svcd thread or something else? |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 01:28 | <robertj> | that looks good as icleus has mplayer deps |
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| 01:35 | <JustinSan> | "connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543" is the only and last line, so apparently it just can't hit the backend... but that's what the IP and ports are set to on the backend |
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| 01:44 | <dwmurphy> | JustinSan: does it work with xawtv? |
| 01:44 | <JustinSan> | yes |
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| 01:45 | <dwmurphy> | does xawtv go to the right mode? (i.e. pal/nstc) or do you have to change it? |
| 01:46 | <JustinSan> | I have to change it |
| 01:46 | <dwmurphy> | what tuner card are you using ? |
| 01:46 | <JustinSan> | leadtek tv2000xp deluxe |
| 01:47 | <dwmurphy> | heh.. ok. i think i can help |
| 01:47 | <dwmurphy> | i assume you are in the us? |
| 01:47 | <JustinSan> | yes, I am |
| 01:48 | <dwmurphy> | execute 'dmesg' and see what tuner your card is autodetecting. i have a tv2000xp as well, and by default, it was picking a PAL version. i had to set it to use a NTSC version, and it worked |
| 01:50 | <dwmurphy> | were your channels off by one in xawtv? |
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| 01:51 | <JustinSan> | yeah, they are |
| 01:51 | <JustinSan> | I am going to try that right now |
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| 01:51 | <dwmurphy> | ok. fyi: i was getting tuner 6 by default. i set it to be tuner 2 through options, and it was ok |
| 01:53 | <JustinSan> | tuner 6 and tuner 2? |
| 01:53 | <JustinSan> | in the mythtv options? |
| 01:54 | <dwmurphy> | no.. |
| 01:54 | <dwmurphy> | options for the bttv module |
| 01:54 | <dwmurphy> | kernel module |
| 01:55 | <dwmurphy> | the bttv driver detects the card properly, but not the tuner, hence the option to set the tuner to 2 |
| 01:55 | <JustinSan> | ah, I've never lookd at the bttv module options |
| 01:55 | <dwmurphy> | i went through this whole thing over the past day ;) |
| 01:55 | <JustinSan> | but back to dmesg, where do I see if is seen to be PAL or NTSC? |
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| 01:55 | <JustinSan> | I'm lucky I found you :) |
| 01:56 | <harrih> | Hello, does anyone else have a problem with the frontend getting stuck into a rebuffering loop after you fast forward ? |
| 01:56 | <dwmurphy> | heh.. look for the line 'bttv0: using tuner=x' where x is the number it found |
| 01:57 | <JustinSan> | harrih, I haven't been able to record tv yet, but once I do, I'm sure I will :p |
| 01:57 | <Chutt> | harrih, it's not going to get fixed by you asking about it once or twice a day |
| 01:59 | <harrih> | Chutt, I'm trying to find out if other people have this problem so I know if it is my system that is hosed or a more common problem |
| 01:59 | <harrih> | if it is my system, then I would to a total reinstall |
| 01:59 | <Chutt> | it's probably a bug. |
| 01:59 | <harrih> | i've been running the same myth installation for about 7-8 months upgrading to cvs every couple of weeks |
| 02:00 | <harrih> | so it would not surprise me if my system was hosed |
| 02:00 | <Chutt> | it's probably a bug. |
| 02:02 | <harrih> | chutt, do you have any suggestions what I should do to help locate the problem ? I have never done a traceback, and would that even help because the frontend doesn't really crash just starts to loop |
| 02:02 | <andrewp> | So has anyone ekse had problems with mythvideo and imdb, I am pretty sure I know what is wrong, but not how to fix it. |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | harrih, you'll have to figure that out on your own, sorry. |
| 02:02 | <harrih> | k. thanks |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | andrewp, some people have mentioned it. |
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| 02:04 | <andrewp> | Chutt, as near as I can figure they changed the URL and the new one wants a user-agent which QUrl does not seem to provide even with the User-Agent option. |
| 02:07 | <andrewp> | Does anyone know much about QUrl and user-agents? |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | not i |
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| 02:28 | <phar0e> | Hihi |
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| 02:35 | <newman234> | anyone around? |
| 02:36 | <phar0e> | yes |
| 02:36 | <newman234> | hey dude what up? |
| 02:38 | <newman234> | phar0e who would be a good person to ask questions about vid cards? |
| 02:40 | <linagee> | is there a way in myth tv to say "yep. already seen this episode. keep recording this show whenever it appear, but seen this episode"? |
| 02:41 | <phar0e> | by default I don't think mythtv will re-record a show it has recorded already |
| 02:41 | <phar0e> | unless you tell it to re-record it |
| 02:42 | <linagee> | phar0e: right. but without recording that show, how do i let mythtv know that i've seen this one already? |
| 02:42 | <phar0e> | oh |
| 02:42 | <linagee> | phar0e: maybe a new feature? :) |
| 02:42 | <phar0e> | not sure how you would do that |
| 02:43 | <linagee> | phar0e: just wondering if such a hotkey already exists. i guess i would have to wade through code to find out |
| 02:43 | <newman234> | phar0e you wouldn't know about GeForec2 MX400's would you? |
| 02:43 | | * linagee wonders how scheduling conflicts act with two capture cards. just fine? |
| 02:44 | <linagee> | newman234: what seems to be the problem? i'm using a geforce2 mx400 myself |
| 02:44 | <newman234> | cool |
| 02:44 | <newman234> | prob is: I have a GeForce2 MX400 and am trying to get the |
| 02:44 | <newman234> | TVout working properly.... I have been scouring the mailing archives and have |
| 02:44 | <newman234> | gotten the TwinView working.. but there are huge black sections on the left and |
| 02:44 | <newman234> | right side while in twin view.... when i boot with just the tv connected it fills |
| 02:44 | <newman234> | most of the screen.. but is garbled and has a bit of a bit of a "bent" left side... any |
| 02:44 | <newman234> | ideas what i am doing wrong? |
| 02:45 | <linagee> | newman234: not sure. i didn't think the mx400 came with tv out. (i thought that was the mx440 or something) |
| 02:46 | <linagee> | newman234: are you using nvidia drivers? |
| 02:46 | <newman234> | yep newest driver |
| 02:46 | <linagee> | newman234: then you tried adjusting Options in your x config? |
| 02:46 | <linagee> | (they're documented in the doc directory the nvidia drivers installs) |
| 02:47 | <linagee> | hrm. you got twinview working so i guess you did mess with the options |
| 02:47 | <newman234> | yep |
| 02:48 | <newman234> | got the twin view going.. but have huge black sides on the left and right sides when hooked up to my flat panel and to the tv |
| 02:48 | <linagee> | newman234: did you read through apendix J? " APPENDIX J: CONFIGURING TV-OUT |
| 02:48 | <linagee> | " |
| 02:49 | <newman234> | but when i boot with just the tv it will to to X with a garbled screen but will have the full screen taken up |
| 02:49 | <newman234> | i thought i had... let me go back and be sure... |
| 02:49 | <linagee> | " The "TVOverScan" option can be used to enable Overscan " |
| 02:49 | <linagee> | might try that? |
| 02:50 | <linagee> | "Overscan is currently only available on GeForce4 or newer" |
| 02:50 | <linagee> | hrmmm... :( |
| 02:50 | <linagee> | *shrug* |
| 02:50 | <newman234> | do you have a GeForce 2 MX400? |
| 02:50 | <linagee> | yes |
| 02:50 | <linagee> | no TV out |
| 02:50 | <newman234> | cuz if you do... i could use a copy of your XF86Config for comparison |
| 02:51 | <linagee> | doesn't yours work normally? |
| 02:51 | <linagee> | with no tv out configuring? |
| 02:51 | <newman234> | normally? |
| 02:51 | <newman234> | yes |
| 02:51 | <linagee> | i have no tv out. sorry |
| 02:52 | <linagee> | (it wasn't that important of an option for me) |
| 02:52 | <newman234> | when i run Mplayer and of course myth it fills the screen |
| 02:52 | <newman234> | on my monitor |
| 02:52 | <newman234> | hmmm |
| 02:52 | <newman234> | darn |
| 03:00 | <phar0e> | hey guys, what sort of MB/s do you get with hdparm? |
| 03:02 | <poptix> | god damn |
| 03:02 | <poptix> | commercial skip is totally broken on this particular episode of 'Enterprise' |
| 03:09 | <newman234> | i think i am going to try and change the Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" option and not have the monior connected |
| 03:10 | <newman234> | see if that does anything... if not i suppose i could try and do a complete reinstall of the driver and try and build from the ground up using just the tv |
| 03:11 | <newman234> | of course it would be nice to use the flatpannel as well :-( |
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| 03:14 | <poptix> | newman234: nvidia? |
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| 03:39 | <linagee> | poptix: i wonder if it's just by coincidence that commercial skip works less on major networks and more on "the food channel" and other such channels.... |
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| 03:40 | <linagee> | (in other words, maybe major networks put a little research on trying to fool "commercial skip" things? *shrug* just theories |
| 03:40 | <linagee> | ) |
| 03:41 | <FryGuy> | it works fine on TNT for me :) |
| 03:41 | <linagee> | FryGuy: me too |
| 03:41 | <FryGuy> | it generally leaves the outro though |
| 03:41 | <linagee> | FryGuy: TNT shows work great |
| 03:42 | <FryGuy> | like on charmed it still shows the "you're watching charmed" thing, but not actual commercials.. Sometimes it shows like 3 seconds of them though |
| 03:42 | <FryGuy> | currently my mythtv box is borken though |
| 03:42 | <FryGuy> | so I don't know if it's changed recently |
| 03:42 | <linagee> | FryGuy: i notice commercial skip has trouble with dark scenery too. |
| 03:42 | <FryGuy> | but if it works for you, then it's fine :) |
| 03:43 | <FryGuy> | that's because it detects black screens |
| 03:43 | <FryGuy> | and dark is close enough to black |
| 03:44 | <linagee> | FryGuy: hrm. should be able to see like "oh, this is a complex black with many shades" versus: "this is not COMPLETELY black black, but at least it's all one shade of black" |
| 03:46 | <FryGuy> | I think the algorithm partitions the screen into sections and averages the luminance for each section and if all sections are below a threshold, then it says that it's a black screen |
| 03:47 | <phar0e> | aaa |
| 03:47 | <FryGuy> | anyways I need to get to bed.. tata :) |
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| 03:48 | <linagee> | how low can i make my pvr250 settings go? hmm |
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| 04:06 | <linagee> | why at low bitrates does audio skip? |
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| 12:05 | <bobnvic> | the previews don't show up in mythweb recordings for me. the directory they point to is 192.168.2.100/image_cache, while the .png files are in 192.168.2.100/mythweb/image_cache. does anyone have any idea what I did wrong? I installed it from source, not a package. |
| 12:06 | <bobnvic> | or should I just make a soft link from one to the other? |
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| 12:42 | <Chutt> | thor, hi |
| 12:42 | <thor_> | Hey |
| 12:42 | <thor_> | Anything frantic going on ? |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 12:43 | <thor_> | cool |
| 12:43 | <thor_> | am slowly making mythvideo more useful |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | the imdb stuff's apparently broken due to a change at their website |
| 12:43 | <thor_> | haven't touched that (still 28.8) |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | i'm just 'bout done with a bunch of osd internals changes |
| 12:44 | <thor_> | Although you will shortly be able to just tell it to use a file on disc |
| 12:44 | <thor_> | (no plot summary etc., but it works) |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | stuff gets rendered to a temp image, only when the osd changes |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | instead of getting regenerated every video frame |
| 12:44 | <thor_> | something to do with hardware mpeg out ? |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | yeah, it's to allow me to convert the osd to argb for that |
| 12:45 | <thor_> | still .... rest of GUI ? |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | and to convert to ia44/ai44 instead of yuv for the cle266 and xvmc stuff |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | rest of the gui can just use qt/embedded to display on the framebuffer =) |
| 12:45 | <thor_> | ah .. right |
| 12:46 | <thor_> | but framebuffer --> harwdware decoder is simple (or am I missing something) ? |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | the pvr-350 can present itself as a standard framebuffer |
| 12:46 | <thor_> | ah !! |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | like a video card |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | well, the driver does that |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | since the overlay can be set to rgb images, and it gives you a memory region to write to |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | pretty cool, really =) |
| 12:47 | <thor_> | the Hauppauge people should be sending you free automobiles =) |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | ah, cool |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | all the osd widgets work again |
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| 12:49 | <thor_> | Should have some more improvements to video/dvd in a day or so ... then travel ... back to decent access on Wednesday |
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| 13:20 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: by then end of the weekend I'll have a patch that adds xbox support goodies such as LED indication of if backends are recording and disc eject for mythdvd (normal ejecting will cause the xbox to reboot, have to write a value to a pic) |
| 13:21 | <mikegrb> | right now I have it setup so you uncomment a line in settings.pro to enable it, is this preferred or a configure option like lcd support? |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | settings.pro would be preferred |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | i'm going to be moving the lcd support toggle to there as well |
| 13:31 | <mikegrb> | okay |
| 13:39 | <dwmurphy> | who is the maintainer of the mythweb .deb? |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | same person who does all the other debs |
| 13:42 | <dwmurphy> | lol. that's bloody helpful ;) |
| 13:43 | <dwmurphy> | ah.. mdz :) |
| 13:43 | <mdz> | dwmurphy: hmm? |
| 13:43 | <mdz> | mizar:[~] apt-cache show mythweb |grep Maintainer |
| 13:43 | <mdz> | Maintainer: Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> |
| 13:44 | <dwmurphy> | yeah. i just looked up the package info here. is there a reason the image_cache and php_session dirs aren't set up in the .deb installation process? |
| 13:45 | <mdz> | I am not aware of any php_session variable in mythweb |
| 13:46 | <mdz> | that sounds like something set by php itself |
| 13:46 | <mdz> | as for image_cache, I wasn't aware of it until you mentioned it. how is it supposed to work? |
| 13:47 | <dwmurphy> | i only stumbled on it when i tried to view the recoreded programs from the main page |
| 13:48 | <dwmurphy> | not sure what it does, but mythweb groans if it isn't there and it can't make it |
| 13:48 | <dwmurphy> | the docs mention php_session as something it uses to store sessions, but i didn't trip over it myself |
| 13:49 | <mdz> | yes, I see the record programs problem now |
| 13:49 | <mdz> | the php session thing is almost certainly php's domain and shouldn't be a problem |
| 13:49 | <mdz> | for image_cache, since it is a cache, it should almost certainly be falling back to not using it if it doesn't exist |
| 13:50 | <mdz> | the mythweb README says to chgrp/chmod it, but never says anything about creating it |
| 13:50 | <mdz> | and it doesn't exist in the source |
| 13:50 | <dwmurphy> | it says to cp -r the distribhution over, maybe the dirs are from that |
| 13:50 | <mdz> | or in cvs |
| 13:51 | <mdz> | as I said, it's not in the source tarball |
| 13:51 | <mdz> | mizar:[~/src/deb/mine/work/mythweb] tar tvjf mythweb-0.11.tar.bz2|grep cache |
| 13:51 | <mdz> | zsh: done tar tvjf mythweb-0.11.tar.bz2 | |
| 13:51 | <mdz> | zsh: exit 1 grep cache |
| 13:51 | <dwmurphy> | interesting. i created it, and got the page up, but saw no images :) |
| 13:52 | <mdz> | mizar:[.../deb/mine/upstream/mythweb2] cvs up -dAP |
| 13:52 | <mdz> | mizar:[.../deb/mine/upstream/mythweb2] ls image_cache |
| 13:52 | <mdz> | ls: image_cache: No such file or directory |
| 13:52 | <mdz> | zsh: exit 1 ls --color=tty image_cache |
| 13:53 | <dwmurphy> | ok. guess i'll send an email upstream to the author. thanks |
| 13:53 | <mdz> | let me know what they say |
| 13:54 | <mdz> | I wouldn't mind if that feature worked |
| 13:54 | <dwmurphy> | looks like it should try to grab a thumbnail of the recorded program. and the faq does ref the session dir, but yeah, i'll let you know |
| 13:55 | <mdz> | the right person to ask is probably in here, but I forget who is doing mythweb stuff now |
| 13:56 | <mdz> | I think it's Chris Petersen, and I forget his handle in here |
| 13:57 | <dwmurphy> | interesting.. the dirs are in the mythweb2 cvs tree |
| 13:59 | <mdz> | eek, that page in mythweb crashed my backend |
| 13:59 | <mdz> | which had been up for 10 days |
| 14:00 | <mdz> | I seem to recall someone mentioning on the list that mythweb was crashing the backend |
| 14:00 | <mdz> | maybe it's better to leave that page disabled :-) |
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| 14:06 | <dwmurphy> | odd.. worked for me :/ sorry :( |
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| 14:53 | <dwmurphy> | mdz: now that the dir is there, it is getting populated, but the links to the images are wrong :) |
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| 15:21 | <newman234> | anyone out there using the Nvidia GeForec2 MX400 |
| 15:21 | <newman234> | with TV out? |
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| 15:24 | <hyperm> | yea |
| 15:24 | <hyperm> | i just got one last night |
| 15:24 | <hyperm> | its real easy to setup |
| 15:24 | <hyperm> | err nm i have gerforce4 mx |
| 15:24 | <newman234> | so you have no problem heh? |
| 15:24 | <hyperm> | no problem |
| 15:25 | <hyperm> | dont use ati , its to must trouble |
| 15:25 | <hyperm> | nvidia drivers make it real easy |
| 15:25 | <newman234> | tv out looks just like normal cable |
| 15:25 | <hyperm> | yea |
| 15:25 | <hyperm> | svideo |
| 15:25 | <newman234> | i am having trouble with mine |
| 15:25 | <newman234> | could you send me a copy of your XF86Config? |
| 15:25 | <hyperm> | are you using the drivers from nvidia.com |
| 15:25 | <hyperm> | sure |
| 15:25 | <newman234> | yep newest one |
| 15:26 | <hyperm> | Pm |
| 15:26 | <hyperm> | i pasted the device section |
| 15:27 | <newman234> | mind sending the whole file to me |
| 15:28 | <newman234> | i appreciate the paste but i want to see your monitor section as well |
| 15:28 | <hyperm> | hrmm sec |
| 15:28 | <newman234> | thanks man |
| 15:29 | <hyperm> | i didnt do anything special in the monitor section for tvout |
| 15:29 | <newman234> | i was thinking that it was getting comfused since i have FPD in that section |
| 15:30 | <newman234> | my Twin View works... but i have huge black sides |
| 15:30 | <hyperm> | ah |
| 15:30 | <newman234> | in twin view |
| 15:30 | <hyperm> | you need to set overscan |
| 15:30 | <hyperm> | i think |
| 15:30 | <hyperm> | its in the README |
| 15:30 | <newman234> | ah |
| 15:30 | <hyperm> | there is a param you need to set |
| 15:30 | <newman234> | yea... i read that thing cover to cover... but FG2 doesn't have the over scan in it |
| 15:31 | <hyperm> | fg2? |
| 15:31 | <newman234> | i went threw the mail archive and i am suppose to use an external prog for it called nv.. something |
| 15:31 | <hyperm> | nvtv? |
| 15:31 | <newman234> | yep |
| 15:31 | <hyperm> | http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/\ |
| 15:32 | <newman234> | looking |
| 15:32 | <tmk> | where's chutt when you need him |
| 15:32 | <hyperm> | the nvidia driver is supposed to be able to do it |
| 15:32 | <hyperm> | did you try using the overscan option in the xfree config? |
| 15:33 | <newman234> | yep.. no dice |
| 15:33 | <hyperm> | :( |
| 15:33 | <hyperm> | mine defaultly filled the screen |
| 15:33 | <hyperm> | nvtv thing is pretty cool i installed |
| 15:33 | <newman234> | i tried rebooting with just the TV and when i start np until i start X then i get garbage.. but it fills the screeen |
| 15:34 | <newman234> | let me try your config options.. with CRT, TV and see what i get |
| 15:34 | <newman234> | for connnected device |
| 15:36 | <newman234> | i tried connnected device FPD, TV and that didn't work |
| 15:36 | <newman234> | brb |
| 15:38 | <hyperm> | anyone here familiar with lirc |
| 15:39 | <hyperm> | i have it all compiled with my proper card but i cant get any of the utils to detect im hitting buttons on my remote |
| 15:39 | <newman234> | i am some |
| 15:39 | <newman234> | i had the same prob what is your capture card? |
| 15:40 | <hyperm> | winfasttv |
| 15:40 | <newman234> | darn.. i resolved my problems on the Haug 250 |
| 15:40 | <hyperm> | what did you do? |
| 15:41 | <newman234> | i downloaded the newest driver from Haug and got the new driver and recomplied. |
| 15:41 | <hyperm> | haug actually has linux drivers? |
| 15:41 | <hyperm> | coo |
| 15:41 | <newman234> | had to make sure that i was using the Lirc-0.7Opera |
| 15:42 | <newman234> | and the right versions of those file while i compiled and modprobed and insmoded |
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| 15:43 | <newman234> | the driver is for WinX world.. but used the extraction *.pl in the Utils dir |
| 15:43 | <newman234> | to get the driver |
| 15:43 | <hyperm> | hrmm i thought 0.6.x is newest , is 0.7 a beta? |
| 15:43 | <newman234> | yea.. think so |
| 15:44 | <newman234> | but it works... for me i have gotten Lircd to load... and irw works like a charm |
| 15:45 | <newman234> | only problem is when i try to load irwevent.. it crys about needing a config file ... haven't quite figured that one out yet.. |
| 15:45 | <hyperm> | ah |
| 15:45 | <newman234> | i am trying that new config now see ya in a sec |
| 15:46 | <newman234> | oh btw.. i don't like the Nvidia logo so much... so i added the "Option "NoLogo" option |
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| 15:48 | <newman234> | oh... and on the same server here the #ivtv-dev channel is a good place for Lirc questions |
| 15:48 | <hyperm> | ah was wondering where |
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| 16:05 | <mechou> | hey choenig, you there? |
| 16:05 | <choenig> | hi mechou |
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| 16:05 | <mechou> | hey, what mobo do you have? |
| 16:05 | <mechou> | for myth |
| 16:06 | <choenig> | an epox 8k5a2+ |
| 16:06 | <mechou> | no nvram for you as I recall...right? |
| 16:06 | <choenig> | right |
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| 16:07 | <tdb30_> | Is it better to go with elsa or oss for sound with mythtv |
| 16:07 | <mechou> | nvram-wake is writting to the wrong places on my m/b ;( ,even though mobo is supported by nvram-wake out of the box.... |
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| 16:08 | <choenig> | hmmm, thats bad |
| 16:08 | <mechou> | all the bits (dates) are fubar in cmos...., and ut turns on "other" features which were previously set to off... |
| 16:09 | <choenig> | oho |
| 16:09 | <mechou> | not a big deal, just have to figure out the locations for nvram to write to. |
| 16:09 | <mechou> | sitill a PITA, thiugh.... |
| 16:10 | <mechou> | tdb30_: depends on your sound card, really.... |
| 16:10 | <tdb30_> | its an ensoniq built into the motherboard. |
| 16:11 | <mechou> | tdb30_: IIRC with esoniq you could use either. Don't quote me on this, thou. |
| 16:12 | <tdb30_> | okay. I'm starting to rebuild my machine hoping compiling everything from scratch will make it not crash like it did. And I want to get the kernel right |
| 16:12 | <mechou> | why do you need to rebuild? |
| 16:13 | <mechou> | try the modules first. You **dont need** to rebuild... |
| 16:14 | <mechou> | figure out what's causing the crash is better than trying rebuild blindly :) |
| 16:16 | <mechou> | choenig, does epox bios have good power management (besides nvram-wake), allow you to boot off usb, and such? |
| 16:17 | <choenig> | I don't know, mechou, never used that |
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| 16:18 | <choenig> | I'm running epox boards in the third or fourth generation. always liked them, never had problems with 'em |
| 16:18 | <newman234> | ok... the changes didn't work.. dmit |
| 16:19 | <newman234> | trying the nvtv stuff now |
| 16:19 | <mechou> | these days the only "real" differentiation between manufacturers is their bios implementation.... |
| 16:19 | <mechou> | assuming like chipsets..... |
| 16:22 | <choenig> | anybody switched to 2.4.22 and saw a significant increase in myth cpu% again? (or do we have yet another upgread thread in -user?) |
| 16:23 | <mechou> | oh-oh.... |
| 16:24 | <mechou> | how much more cpu is it (compare to older kernel...) |
| 16:24 | <choenig> | again about 25% |
| 16:24 | <mechou> | man, that really sucks.... |
| 16:24 | <choenig> | I was at about 25% with 2.4.20, at 50% with 2.4.21 and now I'm at 75% |
| 16:25 | <choenig> | on 20->21 I thought that could be different measurement, but now ?! |
| 16:25 | <mechou> | wonder what those folks in kernel land are doing for optimization? |
| 16:26 | <choenig> | some basic IO stuff has changed in 22. maybe that is the thing |
| 16:27 | <mechou> | these performance numbers, is that for recording, livetv, or something else? |
| 16:27 | <choenig> | lifeTV |
| 16:28 | <choenig> | have not done any other testing yet |
| 16:28 | <choenig> | hmm, recording only gives me 30% |
| 16:29 | <mechou> | you sure yo using the same setiings in myth, no commflag, deinterlace, whatever.... |
| 16:30 | <choenig> | yes, no changes there |
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| 16:57 | <o_cee> | Chutt: does those latest commits mean that the xvmc support is usable now? |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | it's always been useable. |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | just no ods |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | osd |
| 16:58 | <o_cee> | that's what i meant. |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | and the commit says 'with a little more work' |
| 16:59 | <o_cee> | okay, looking forward to it. |
| 16:59 | <matt_> | i'm having some audio problems. audio sounds really bad, no matter which sample rate i have set, mp3 quality, nor whether i'm using mp3 or uncompressed (and on that note, i didn't see a field in the db for audiocodec. does setting it to uncompressed actually do that?) |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | yes. all codec settings are in the recordingprofiles table |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | if it sounds bad uncompressed, there's really nothing mythtv can do about it |
| 17:01 | <matt_> | ah, i see |
| 17:01 | <matt_> | well i had my sat receiver plugged directly into my tv (and i have a 4.1 setup plugged into the tv's monitor out), and it sounds great |
| 17:01 | <harrih> | Hi Chutt, I did backtraces for those frontend rebuffering freezes, I hope I did them correctly |
| 17:01 | <matt_> | sounded, rather |
| 17:02 | <o_cee> | i'm having really bad sound in the mythmusic module, with mp3's i know have good quality.. it sound just like there's an equalizer that's boosted the bass to the max or something.. can't really explain it, but it doesn't sound like that when i'm watching tv.. is there some seperate setting for that in the mythmusic module? |
| 17:06 | <harrih> | does recordedmarkup table hold the data for the bookmark ? Would it be possible to delete a bookmark manually, one of my files enters the rebuffering loop rightaway when I start it |
| 17:10 | <o_cee> | :\ |
| 17:14 | <o_cee> | no idea? sounds like if the volume would be at like 500 |
| 17:15 | <andrewp> | o_cee, are an of your volumes set to max, often that will overdrive a soundcard. |
| 17:16 | <o_cee> | they're all at 71.. hmm, pcm is at 100.. but it sounds fine with normal tv viewin, that's the wierd part |
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| 17:31 | <o_cee> | arghwell |
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| 17:54 | <o_cee> | anyone with gentoo who know what's needed to get goom working? got media-libs/libsdl emerged (mythmusic compiles ok) but it can't find sdl and segfaults anyway |
| 17:56 | <o_cee> | re-emerge it to make sure opengl is compiled in |
| 17:57 | <o_cee> | goom looks really nice from the screenshots :) |
| 18:08 | <o_cee> | yepp, that did it |
| 18:08 | <o_cee> | :) looks great |
| 18:09 | <o_cee> | oh, newest goom has support for scrolling messages.. would be way cool |
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| 18:15 | <o_cee> | btw, what does those icons in the lower left on "Play recording" mean? RIP and $ or something? |
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| 18:22 | <monkeyBox> | Is there anywhere I can find a list of ALL applications needed for MythTV to run?? (even the ones that may already be included with most distros)?? |
| 18:22 | <monkeyBox> | I want to configure a frontend that only has the packages required to run mythfrontend. |
| 18:23 | <o_cee> | why don't you try those minidistros ? |
| 18:23 | <o_cee> | http://linpvr.org/ |
| 18:24 | <o_cee> | that's for epia.. |
| 18:24 | <o_cee> | but there's the knoppix thing as well |
| 18:25 | <mdz> | knoppix is not a mini distribution |
| 18:25 | <o_cee> | there's a knoppix myth thingie |
| 18:25 | <o_cee> | search the lists |
| 18:25 | <o_cee> | thor not here? |
| 18:26 | <monkeyBox> | o_cee: the knopmyth that is currently out cannot run mythfrontend from the CD.. you have to install on a HD |
| 18:26 | <monkeyBox> | I'm actually trying to make a knoppix right now that runs just mythfrontend |
| 18:27 | <monkeyBox> | I'm just curious if I need things like python, tk, etc.. |
| 18:27 | <matt_> | if i'm getting black horizontal lines for some music visualizations (on output to tv), does that mean vertical refresh/sync is too low or high? |
| 18:27 | <o_cee> | maybe Chutt then. mythvideo, the new fileextension thing. there's a "use_default" entry in videotypes. wouldn't it just be enough to check if "playcommand" is null? |
| 18:31 | <o_cee> | ooohkay |
| 18:31 | <monkeyBox> | do you actually need all of KDE installed, or just QT? I guess I can just chack the dependancies for QT, right? |
| 18:32 | <o_cee> | don't use kde |
| 18:32 | <o_cee> | ust blackbox or fluxbox |
| 18:32 | <o_cee> | or something like that. but for now you need X |
| 18:34 | <monkeyBox> | do I even need a WM really? If I'm just going to start up directly into Mythfrontend.. |
| 18:34 | <o_cee> | i'm not sure, but i do think you need it at the moment |
| 18:35 | <o_cee> | but blackbox is really small and nice |
| 18:37 | <linagee> | is a pvr250 able to decode and encode? is there some software switch that determines if it can decode and encode or just encode? |
| 18:37 | <o_cee> | it can only encode |
| 18:37 | <o_cee> | the 350 does both |
| 18:38 | <linagee> | o_cee: but is it a software trick to limit encoding only? afaik the chip number is even the same. i think. |
| 18:38 | | * linagee checks |
| 18:38 | <o_cee> | linagee: yes, the first revision of the 250 has the same chip |
| 18:38 | <o_cee> | but there's no connections |
| 18:38 | <linagee> | o_cee: :( |
| 18:39 | <linagee> | conexant cx23416-12 |
| 18:40 | | * linagee checks manufacturer site |
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| 18:40 | <linagee> | hrm. the 23415 does encoding and decoding. :( |
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| 18:51 | <tmk> | sup chutt |
| 18:52 | <linagee> | why does the ivtv docs say "type cat /dev/video0 >~/test.mpg then press ctrl-c after a little while" |
| 18:52 | <tmk> | to test it |
| 18:52 | <tmk> | cat /dev/video0 will generate mpg data |
| 18:52 | <linagee> | i think it would be a little more refined to use: "dd if=/dev/video0 of=~/test.mpg count=2048" |
| 18:53 | <linagee> | especially when you have newbies generating zero byte files because they are doing something wrong. :) |
| 18:53 | <tmk> | i'm not refined i guess |
| 18:53 | <linagee> | tmk: not me making zero byte files, someone else i am helping. :) |
| 18:53 | <tmk> | heh |
| 18:53 | <tmk> | what was he doing wrong |
| 18:53 | | * linagee is only making suggestion |
| 18:54 | <tmk> | what situations would cat not work where dd does? |
| 18:54 | <linagee> | tmk: cat was not giving an error message. *shrug* |
| 18:54 | <linagee> | tmk: dd does give byte read/write error messages |
| 18:55 | <linagee> | tmk: if someone wanted to put a lot of effort forth, they could even pull out a certain amount of bytes, and make sure the file looks like an mpeg2 file and say "test successful!" or something. :) |
| 19:05 | <linagee> | is there a reason when i put low bit rates with my pvr250, audio and even video skips around a bit? and cpu isn't 0% idle either.... |
| 19:06 | <linagee> | do bitrate settings have to be in some weird increment or something? |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | the card doesn't produce entirely valid mpg video |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | and it doesn't really do well at lower bitrates |
| 19:06 | <linagee> | Chutt: huh? not entirely valid mpeg? lol |
| 19:16 | <linagee> | Chutt: 4 bitrate / 8 peak bitrate seems to work. |
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| 19:29 | <mdz> | monkeyBox: er, if you're using knoppix, just use the debs |
| 19:29 | <mdz> | monkeyBox: which already have correct dependency information |
| 19:29 | <matt_> | anyone using xfree86 4.3 on debian? |
| 19:30 | <tmk> | lin: you can do like "head -c1 /dev/video0" and check output |
| 19:30 | <tmk> | i've heard of people doing that and reloading till it works |
| 19:30 | <mdz> | matt_: from source, or the experimental packages? |
| 19:31 | <tmk> | linagee: not sure why it skips. What settings are you using? |
| 19:31 | <linagee> | tmk: playing with settings right now |
| 19:32 | <linagee> | tmk: trying to figure out the lowest bitrate before it starts skipping. (don't have much drive space) |
| 19:32 | <matt_> | mdz: expermintal |
| 19:32 | <mdz> | matt_: yeah, I've used them, though not with mythtv |
| 19:32 | <matt_> | i'm considering do that to get gtf |
| 19:32 | <linagee> | tmk: what is a good resolution and bitrate to use for low quality video? (not skipping)? |
| 19:32 | <matt_> | but not sure if it's entirely necessary |
| 19:33 | <mdz> | I know nothing about gtf |
| 19:33 | <matt_> | it's a program the generates modelines |
| 19:33 | <matt_> | since i'm trying to get widescreen output |
| 19:38 | <mdz> | different from read-edid? |
| 19:39 | <mdz> | (obviously; but how?) |
| 19:39 | <tmk> | try 4000000/6500000 |
| 19:39 | <tmk> | also what resolution are you using? |
| 19:40 | <tmk> | skipping could be a symptom of too low of a peak-rate |
| 19:40 | <linagee> | tmk: trying different. had at 480x480, trying 320x240 now. (looking a little way crappier.) |
| 19:42 | <matt_> | mdz: read-edid? |
| 19:42 | <mdz> | matt_: apt-cache show read-edid |
| 19:46 | <matt_> | <mharris> matt_: Apples and Oranges... gtf is a modeline generation tool. read-edid is a tool for DDC probing the monitor to get the EDID data. |
| 19:46 | <matt_> | says the guy from #xfree86 |
| 19:49 | <mdz> | but you can use read-edid to generate modelines |
| 19:49 | <mdz> | so I'd assume that they're using different methods to collect the information |
| 19:49 | <mdz> | which is what I was curious about |
| 19:52 | <matt_> | well i'd rather not upgrade to 4.3... |
| 19:53 | <matt_> | hm...no man page for read-edid and nothing in /usr/share/doc/read-edid |
| 19:55 | <linagee> | hrm. 320x480 resolution tends to work pretty well. (capture all the lines of resolution) |
| 19:55 | <matt_> | um, does read-edid work with tv's? |
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| 20:16 | <hyperm> | are there any distribs where lirc is easy to install :) |
| 20:17 | <hyperm> | havent to many problems ;/ |
| 20:28 | <matt_> | lirc was easy to install for me, once i compiled my kernel |
| 20:30 | <hyperm> | compiling it i got |
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| 20:30 | <hyperm> | but making it read any data is my problem now |
| 20:30 | <hyperm> | HEH |
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| 20:32 | <hyperm> | matt_ what card are you using with lirc? |
| 20:38 | <tmk> | lin: could your hard drive be too slow? |
| 20:45 | <matt_> | avertv studio |
| 20:46 | <matt_> | man...i don't know what happend with my audio |
| 20:46 | <matt_> | it sounds soooo shitty |
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| 20:52 | <linagee> | aha |
| 20:52 | <linagee> | this should be added to an ivtv doc somewhere |
| 20:52 | <linagee> | to find the version of your firmware files, use this line: |
| 20:52 | <linagee> | od -s -j 64 -N 20 /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
| 20:52 | <linagee> | od -s -j 64 -N 20 /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-dec.bin |
| 20:57 | <Chutt> | or just 'strings <firmware> | head -n 1' |
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| 21:05 | <linagee> | Chutt: ok. that works too. maybe even a little cleaner. :) |
| 21:07 | <tmk> | lin: it prints the firmware version out on load |
| 21:08 | <linagee> | tmk: but it's in a hex format. :-P |
| 21:08 | <linagee> | hehe |
| 21:09 | <linagee> | anyone have an idea how i can make mysql start only one thread instead of dozens? |
| 21:09 | <tmk> | none of the numbers are over 10 |
| 21:09 | <tmk> | is it really that hard to translate "02020001 to 2.2.1? |
| 21:09 | <linagee> | tmk: not really. is it that hard to print out the string though, even since it's right in the file? :) |
| 21:09 | <tmk> | nope :) |
| 21:10 | <linagee> | anyone? any ideas on taming down mysql? |
| 21:10 | | * linagee was thinking mysqld --one-thread, but no idea how to get that working with mysqld_safe |
| 21:10 | <tmk> | lin: seriously though, if you'd like to submit some doc changes, i'll take em |
| 21:11 | <linagee> | tmk: about the dd if instead of cat ctrl-c, and maybe changing the output of the driver debugging? |
| 21:12 | | * linagee hits mysqld_safe over the head |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | tmk, so, i have the osd in a more useable state now |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | it generates an image for the screen whenever it needs updating |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | only in yv12, but that can be converted to rgb for the pvr-350 easily enough |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | got to do a little bit more wrapper code |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | and that all should be good to go |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | going to get the osd working on xvmc and the epia-m decoder first, though |
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| 21:18 | <pahli_bar> | hi all |
| 21:20 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: I know I can look at the autodelete for space code to figure out how to get a timer going but to get me on the right track.... if I'm going to be doing something periodically from the frontend does there need to be a seperate thread? I know the backend is multithreaded is the frontend als |
| 21:20 | <mikegrb> | er but it doesn't look like the frontend is |
| 21:20 | <Chutt> | just make a QTimer |
| 21:20 | <Chutt> | that'll do everything right |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | as long as what you're doing doesn't take too terribly wrong. |
| 21:21 | <pahli_bar> | i will like to congratulate the developers on such a great application. |
| 21:21 | <pahli_bar> | one suggestion though. |
| 21:21 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: Aye. so it will call a callback function :-) thanks chutt |
| 21:22 | <pahli_bar> | there should be some kind of indicator to the end user when you press a button and mythtv is doing something before showing the next screen |
| 21:22 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: this has been a great learning experience for me... looks like it will be done late tonight |
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| 21:54 | <hyperm> | the docs talk about Deinterlace playback but i dont see where the option is to turn it on |
| 21:55 | <matt_> | playback |
| 21:55 | <hyperm> | hrmm is that on the frontend or in mythtvsetup? |
| 21:55 | <matt_> | frontend |
| 21:55 | <hyperm> | ah okl |
| 21:55 | <matt_> | setup -> tv settings ..something something |
| 21:56 | <matt_> | i'd be more specific if my x wasn't broken |
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| 22:02 | <matt_> | did you find it? |
| 22:03 | <hyperm> | yeah |
| 22:03 | <matt_> | ok |
| 22:06 | | * dwmurphy fights with lirc and his winfast 2000 |
| 22:07 | <matt_> | if i get a remote from say radioshack, i can use it with the receiver on my tv card, right? |
| 22:07 | <matt_> | i just need to configure lirc for that remote |
| 22:09 | | * thor_ wonders if anyone besides Isaac is ever going to contribute a single line of code |
| 22:10 | <matt_> | on what? |
| 22:10 | <thor_> | "on" Myth ? |
| 22:12 | <matt_> | lots of people contribute to myth...am i missing something? |
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| 22:13 | <thor_> | define "contribute"? |
| 22:13 | <matt_> | submit patches |
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| 22:14 | <thor_> | matt_, less than you'd think |
| 22:15 | <vektor> | thor_: Uh, open source projects are like that. |
| 22:15 | <vektor> | Nobody contributes much to anything :) |
| 22:15 | <thor_> | vektor, ... excellent .... about libdvdread .... |
| 22:15 | <matt_> | i've seen plenty of patches on the dev list |
| 22:16 | <vektor> | thor_: What about it? |
| 22:16 | <thor_> | do we know when the next release is planned ? |
| 22:16 | <vektor> | thor_: Well I don't, I'm not a developer of it. I just contributed to it. |
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| 22:16 | <vektor> | You should ask hh |
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| 22:17 | <thor_> | ah ... some issues with how Disney seems to do AC3 audio |
| 22:17 | <vektor> | Huh? |
| 22:17 | <vektor> | AC3 audio is orthogonal to libdvdread :) |
| 22:17 | <thor_> | nope |
| 22:18 | <thor_> | pull vob |
| 22:18 | <thor_> | tcprobe will tell you one story if -i is the dvd |
| 22:18 | <vektor> | tcprobe? |
| 22:19 | <thor_> | tcprope wraps dvdread |
| 22:19 | <vektor> | Ok ... |
| 22:19 | <thor_> | and another if the input is the pulled vob |
| 22:19 | <vektor> | Well, the IFO files have a lot of information :) |
| 22:20 | <vektor> | So if you don't have those, then you're fucked. |
| 22:20 | <thor_> | agreed |
| 22:20 | <thor_> | but I have DVD's in my possesion that play just fine in mplayer |
| 22:21 | <vektor> | You mean the VOBs play fine? |
| 22:21 | <thor_> | no, hang on, I'm talking actual discs\ |
| 22:21 | <vektor> | Really sounds like you're having problems with the applications, not the library. |
| 22:22 | <vektor> | :) |
| 22:22 | | * vektor has never used tcprobe and has never used mplayer for DVD playback |
| 22:22 | <thor_> | vektor, hey .... you do know that I wrote mythDVD .. =) |
| 22:22 | <vektor> | Ok, never used that either :) |
| 22:23 | <thor_> | ok, it's pretty crappy |
| 22:23 | <thor_> | but I'm just trying to make life easier for people |
| 22:23 | <vektor> | Ok. |
| 22:23 | <vektor> | Anyway, what's the specific problem you're having? |
| 22:24 | <thor_> | a variety of things |
| 22:24 | <vektor> | So is mythDVD a DVD player app? |
| 22:24 | <thor_> | ... be patient for a sec while I explain ... |
| 22:24 | <vektor> | How are you doing navigation, did you write a nav lib? |
| 22:25 | <thor_> | MythDVD is a just a very simple set of wrappers |
| 22:25 | <vektor> | Uh-oh :) |
| 22:26 | <thor_> | C++ level wrappers |
| 22:26 | <vektor> | mplayer doesn't do full navigation so I don't think you'll get stuff to work right. |
| 22:26 | <vektor> | Same with something like tcprobe, I don't think transcode does any navigation logic. |
| 22:26 | <thor_> | vektor, chill out for one sec |
| 22:26 | <vektor> | hehehe |
| 22:26 | <vektor> | ok |
| 22:26 | <vektor> | sorry |
| 22:26 | <thor_> | I'm doing actual libdvdread calls |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | all over the place |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | this is a C++ interface |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | ..... |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | ah |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | .... |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | ok |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | so .... two main issues |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | one: |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | can I get libdvdread to shut up? |
| 22:28 | <vektor> | Oh, to stderr? |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | it wants to do stderrr all over the place |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | second. |
| 22:28 | <vektor> | Ask hh, I thought that was 'fixed'. |
| 22:28 | <vektor> | But it was mostly because there was lots of stuff in libdvdread that we weren't sure of. |
| 22:29 | <vektor> | Like, so it should be verbose so you can tell us stuff :) |
| 22:29 | <vektor> | hh and bjorn only had so many DVDs :) |
| 22:29 | <thor_> | ok |
| 22:29 | <vektor> | Reverse engineering sucks this way. |
| 22:29 | <thor_> | I'm with you |
| 22:29 | <vektor> | Should have been fixed though, since it was working for most people and they wanted a less verbose library. |
| 22:29 | <thor_> | Second, |
| 22:30 | <thor_> | there are still things it pukes on |
| 22:30 | <thor_> | so ... where is it at on dev cycle ? |
| 22:30 | <vektor> | Oh I bet. |
| 22:30 | <vektor> | Well, I don't know. |
| 22:30 | <vektor> | I know hh and bjorn aren't in school now, they've been kinda busy and bored. |
| 22:30 | <vektor> | And don't get much feedback on it, at least, not as much as they'd like. |
| 22:30 | <vektor> | You should join #ogle. |
| 22:31 | <vektor> | Like, it sucks when people make copies of you rlib :) |
| 22:31 | <vektor> | your lib. |
| 22:31 | <thor_> | Would love to |
| 22:31 | <vektor> | They get bugreports, not you :) |
| 22:31 | <thor_> | ... |
| 22:31 | <thor_> | but I'm in Beirut ... |
| 22:31 | <vektor> | Huh? |
| 22:31 | <thor_> | on 28.8 dialup |
| 22:31 | <vektor> | So you can't join #ogle? |
| 22:31 | <thor_> | could |
| 22:31 | <thor_> | but phone lines cost |
| 22:32 | <thor_> | look ... (in my best John Cleese voice), "that's not the point"! |
| 22:32 | <thor_> | where is libdvdread and where is it going? |
| 22:33 | <vektor> | Where is it? |
| 22:33 | <vektor> | Well, hh and bjorn are 'maintaining' it. |
| 22:33 | <vektor> | I think. |
| 22:33 | <vektor> | Look at the ogle homepage. |
| 22:34 | <thor_> | ok |
| 22:34 | <vektor> | The source is at berlios.de |
| 22:34 | <thor_> | yes, yes, that I know |
| 22:34 | <vektor> | I'd like to get back into the DVD thing. |
| 22:34 | <vektor> | Been way too busy with school myself. |
| 22:35 | <vektor> | (and tvtime) : |
| 22:35 | <vektor> | :) |
| 22:35 | <thor_> | ah yes ... you |
| 22:35 | <thor_> | 're the tvtime guy |
| 22:35 | <thor_> | sorry |
| 22:35 | <vektor> | sorry? |
| 22:35 | <thor_> | this is just dawning on me now |
| 22:42 | <vektor> | so, sup? |
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| 22:43 | <thor_> | just trying to deal with libdvdread limitations |
| 22:43 | <vektor> | Like what? |
| 22:44 | <thor_> | Like exceptions ... |
| 22:44 | <thor_> | for example ... |
| 22:44 | <vektor> | Exceptions? |
| 22:44 | <thor_> | *C_ADT nr_of_vobs > avaiable info entries |
| 22:44 | <vektor> | What? |
| 22:45 | <thor_> | that's a libdvdread error message |
| 22:46 | <vektor> | In what version?? |
| 22:47 | <thor_> | 0.9.4 |
| 22:47 | <thor_> | also |
| 22:48 | <vektor> | Ok, yeah, but that's just about fprintf's. |
| 22:48 | <thor_> | subtitle language entries that do not parse as .ascii() nor utf8()'s |
| 22:49 | <vektor> | You mean this: |
| 22:49 | <vektor> | ifo_types.h: uint8_t unknown4; /* ?? allways 0x30 language?, text format? */ |
| 22:50 | <thor_> | I mean: |
| 22:51 | <vektor> | A lot of this does need work, that's for sure. |
| 22:51 | <vektor> | BTW, you can't 'parse' something as .ascii :) |
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| 22:51 | <vektor> | I'm sure sure what you mean by that :) |
| 22:52 | <thor_> | ok |
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| 22:52 | <thor_> | sorry ... I was grepping source for the exact entry |
| 22:52 | <vektor> | Ah, you mean the subpicture attributes. |
| 22:53 | <vektor> | Yeah? |
| 22:53 | <vektor> | Maybe not. :) |
| 22:53 | <thor_> | nope (at least I don't think so) |
| 22:53 | <vektor> | I think I know what you mean though. |
| 22:54 | <tmk> | sup vektor |
| 22:54 | <vektor> | sup tmk |
| 22:54 | <tmk> | hows tvtime |
| 22:54 | <vektor> | rockstar, going to release 0.9.9 in a sec |
| 22:54 | <vektor> | well, hope so |
| 22:54 | <tmk> | cool |
| 22:54 | <vektor> | yeah |
| 22:55 | <tmk> | you know much about the tv-out stuff in v4l2? |
| 22:55 | <tmk> | or output i guess, not necessarily tv-out |
| 22:55 | <vektor> | Well, I'm not too happy with it. |
| 22:55 | <vektor> | I'm not sure who designed it either. |
| 22:55 | <tmk> | i need to create an interface, but i'm dealing with mostly mpg |
| 22:55 | <vektor> | Yeah. |
| 22:55 | <tmk> | which isn't in the spec |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | you don't really need much of an interface |
| 22:55 | <vektor> | Personally, I don't see quite why you should be using V4L2 either. |
| 22:55 | <vektor> | but whatever. |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | you don't have one for reading =) |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | sure i do |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | read() |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | so use write() |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | i am |
| 22:56 | <vektor> | ugh |
| 22:56 | <vektor> | you guys are all nuts ;) |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | using /dev/video0 |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | provided by v4l |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | or /proc/dev/video/video0 ;) |
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| 22:56 | <Chutt> | so what's different? |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | the configuration stuff |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | what's there to configure, though? |
| 22:57 | <tmk> | how to tell me what audio settings to use |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | for output |
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| 22:57 | <tmk> | yea |
| 22:57 | <tmk> | it doesn't auto-sense i guess |
| 22:57 | <tmk> | chutt: do you track GOP's? |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:57 | <tmk> | cool |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | only way to do fast/accurate seeking |
| 22:57 | <tmk> | yea |
| 22:57 | <tmk> | it lets you offset by # of frames in gop |
| 22:57 | <tmk> | on playback |
| 22:57 | <vektor> | thor_: FWIW, I really think hh and bjorn would love some help with dvdread. |
| 22:58 | <vektor> | thor_: I don't think they're getting much. |
| 22:58 | <thor_> | vektor, ok .. thanks ... |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | chutt: would you mind testing the current CVS decoder code? |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | it should be working pretty well |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | tmk, i can't right now |
| 22:58 | <thor_> | I need to sign off |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | well not this minute |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | that machine's not close to a tv anymore |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | oh |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | :< |
| 22:59 | <thor_> | ...it's 6 am here .... |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | while i work on the cle266 decoder |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | thor, later, then =) |
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| 23:00 | <Chutt> | not one bit of feedback on the cle266 decoding support |
| 23:00 | <Chutt> | not a 'works, doesn't work' |
| 23:00 | <Chutt> | nada |
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| 23:01 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: I've hit a stumbling block, I've added a new top level setup screen, added it to the xml file it shows up, if I select it the appropriate function in globalsettings.cpp runs, it has one VerticalConfigurationGroup but nothing ever displays :/ |
| 23:01 | <mikegrb> | Any suggestions on where to look? |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 23:02 | <mikegrb> | I have tried replacing my VerticalConfigurationGroup with one from another setup screen but I still get nothing |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | make sure it's similar to existing ones |
| 23:02 | <mikegrb> | heh okay |
| 23:02 | <mikegrb> | yes that's what I've been trying, let me make sure there aren't more places in main.cpp it needs to be mentioned |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | not that i'm aware of |
| 23:04 | <mikegrb> | ahh think I found it |
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| 23:05 | <mikegrb> | most error really aren't hard to fix.... |
| 23:05 | <mikegrb> | once you find them ;) |
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| 23:05 | <mikegrb> | was missing settings.exec(QSqlDatabase::database()) was looking at the programrankings stuff in the section above which is done differently |
| 23:06 | <tmk> | chutt: that the epia-m decoder? |
| 23:06 | <mikegrb> | thanks for being so understanding through-out my stupid questions |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | simple little api |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | parse the headers of the mpeg video, send the slices to the card, rinse repeat |
| 23:07 | <tmk> | i'll test it |
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| 23:08 | <tmk> | as soon as i get that board ;) |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | oh yeah |
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| 23:10 | <Chutt> | ah well, back later |
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| 23:10 | <tmk> | i'm outie too |
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| 23:23 | <kja> | he, just had my raid break down :( |
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| 23:36 | <linagee> | why does mythbackend start so many threads? do i really need all that memory being wasted if i only have one capture card? |
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| 23:43 | <linagee> | awesome. 320x480 resolution in mythtv works great. (that's 320 width by 480 height) |
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| 23:44 | <kja> | Uuhhh, this is gonna take some time: |
| 23:44 | <kja> | Promise FastTrak SX4000 Linux Driver Version 1.01.00.20 (21.JUL.2003) |
| 23:44 | <kja> | Adapter1 - FastTrak SX4000 |
| 23:44 | <kja> | Array - Array[1] : 3+1 Raid 5 (Rebuild) |
| 23:44 | <kja> | Drive - |
| 23:44 | <kja> | * 1 : IC IDE1/Master 78533MB IRQ(17) UDMA5 - Array[1] |
| 23:44 | <kja> | 3 : IC IDE2/Master 78533MB IRQ(17) UDMA5 - (FREE) |
| 23:44 | <linagee> | (you don't want to decrease your height unless you absolutely have to. it makes weird interlacing things if you do) |
| 23:44 | <kja> | 5 : Maxtor IDE3/Master 78167MB IRQ(17) UDMA5 - Array[1] |
| 23:44 | <kja> | 7 : Maxtor IDE4/Master 78167MB IRQ(17) UDMA5 - Array[1] |
| 23:44 | <kja> | Rebuild Array1 - percentage : 3 % |
| 23:44 | <kja> | - spent time : 22 (minutes) |
| 23:44 | <kja> | - rebuilding drive : * |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | linagee, threads don't use extra ram. |
| 23:46 | <linagee> | Chutt: no? |
| 23:46 | <linagee> | hrm |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | uh, no |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | that is the entire point. |
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| 23:47 | <linagee> | Chutt: 320x480 @ 4000000 / 6500000 is working great on my piii 733mhz machine. :) |
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| 23:48 | <linagee> | (pvr250) |
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| 23:54 | <linagee> | weird! my X server is using like 2-3%. with my old settings, the X server was taking like 20% cpu |
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| 23:54 | <kja> | your current readings sounds sane to me... |
| 23:55 | <linagee> | kja: it's mainly that i had 720x480 and max bitrate before |
| 23:57 | <kja> | hmmm, all that cpu hogging myth does bypasses x on sane setups... |
| 23:58 | <kja> | ahhh, it's soooo boring to wait for this (44min/6%) - and all my sourcefiles is on that thing |
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