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| 01:57 | <phar0e> | Howdy! |
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| 02:48 | <jarodwilson> | Chutt: did you ever figure out where to get version 1.1? |
| 02:48 | <jarodwilson> | :) |
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| 06:31 | <knight-> | heh anyone alive? |
| 06:31 | <knight-> | Log Message: |
| 06:31 | <knight-> | 3dnow support in the linearblend deinterlacer, work done by David Bateman. |
| 06:31 | <knight-> | Don't be so hasty to assume the audio format changed, patch by Kenneth Aafloy. |
| 06:31 | <knight-> | wtf is that last line? haha |
| 06:32 | <knight-> | is that a patch? "don't be so hasty duh duh duh" |
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| 06:48 | <orangebits> | Is it possible to adjust the audio/video sync in a myth recording? |
| 07:25 | <sfr> | Chutt: awake? |
| 07:52 | <knight-> | heh |
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| 08:53 | <fr32> | Alsa users here? |
| 08:54 | <fr32> | Sorry anybody here? |
| 08:54 | <fr32> | :) |
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| 12:52 | <tmk> | mo'nin |
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| 12:55 | <fr32> | Hello? |
| 12:58 | <tmk> | hi |
| 12:59 | <fr32> | hi |
| 12:59 | <jkolb> | hi |
| 12:59 | <sfr> | hi |
| 13:00 | <fr32> | you know a bit of TV-Cards, sorry for my english but it's not my home language! |
| 13:00 | <choenig> | hi |
| 13:00 | <fr32> | I am a owner of a WIN/TV PCI Stereo |
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| 13:01 | <fr32> | if I watch for example soccer or tennis, the movements of the ball are bad quality! |
| 13:01 | <thor_> | fr32, increase resolution, turn on de-interlacing ? |
| 13:02 | <tmk> | sup chutt |
| 13:02 | <fr32> | increase? |
| 13:02 | <thor_> | As primary author of myth, perhaps rather than wasting time and bandwidth with such comments, you could spare some thoughts to what my problem might be? |
| 13:02 | <fr32> | i thought i'll buy a pvr350, will it be better with this card? |
| 13:02 | <thor_> | Chutt, you bastard! |
| 13:03 | <Chutt> | oh no! |
| 13:03 | <Chutt> | i wasted his time! |
| 13:03 | <thor_> | fr32, most people find the PVRx50's offer better quality, but there are no guarantees |
| 13:03 | <fr32> | so it has nothing to do with CPU and speed problems? |
| 13:03 | <tmk> | what cpu do you have |
| 13:04 | <fr32> | athlon xp 1700 |
| 13:04 | <tmk> | that should be PLENTY fast |
| 13:04 | <fr32> | ok |
| 13:04 | <tmk> | what are your recording settings |
| 13:04 | <fr32> | so how can i change the resolution and turn on deinterlacing |
| 13:04 | | * tmk must have missed a clueless user |
| 13:05 | <fr32> | it with life tv |
| 13:05 | <tmk> | fr32: go to the settings |
| 13:05 | <Chutt> | fr32, some guy just said he recently upgraded to 1.1 and was having problems with it |
| 13:05 | <Chutt> | i just asked where i could download 1.1 |
| 13:05 | <sfr> | fr32: are you using mythtv? |
| 13:05 | <fr32> | the rec. function i did not test yet, so my question has to do with life tv |
| 13:05 | <thor_> | supercilious (and pedantic) |
| 13:05 | <fr32> | yep |
| 13:06 | <Chutt> | fr32, turn on deinterlacing. |
| 13:06 | <Chutt> | and raise the recording quality. |
| 13:06 | <thor_> | fr32, yes ... live tv is always recorded |
| 13:06 | <fr32> | why rec. settings if i mean life tv! maybe i'm stupid |
| 13:06 | <fr32> | ah ok! |
| 13:06 | <fr32> | thats the answer thor |
| 13:07 | <fr32> | ok so i go to settings, recording |
| 13:07 | <Chutt> | tmk, i just moved the 350 over to my dev box |
| 13:07 | <Chutt> | need to find some extra cables, now |
| 13:07 | <fr32> | as far as i know there are some profiles? |
| 13:08 | <fr32> | sorry but i'm at work now |
| 13:08 | <fr32> | so can't have a look |
| 13:08 | <thor_> | fr32, Live profile |
| 13:08 | <fr32> | ok |
| 13:08 | <fr32> | there i can change the options you guys mentioned |
| 13:08 | <fr32> | ? |
| 13:09 | <thor_> | there you can change the resolution and other quality levels |
| 13:09 | <fr32> | ok thnx will have a try tonight |
| 13:09 | <fr32> | thnk you, for this great programm |
| 13:10 | | * thor_ wishes he knew how to say your welcome in Dutch |
| 13:10 | <fr32> | i left the windows platform, i was a registered user for SHOWSHIFTER |
| 13:10 | <fr32> | 'Graag gedaan' in dutch |
| 13:10 | <thor_> | gesuntite |
| 13:11 | <fr32> | hahahahha |
| 13:11 | <fr32> | almost right |
| 13:11 | <fr32> | gesundheit mein jungen! |
| 13:11 | <fr32> | hahahaha |
| 13:11 | <sfr> | Mahlzeit! |
| 13:11 | | * fr32 is right back have to go to toilet |
| 13:12 | <thor_> | file that under "too much information" |
| 13:13 | <fr32> | hehehehe |
| 13:14 | <fr32> | hey thor thnx for the great improvements on the movie section, because this is my favourite |
| 13:14 | <fr32> | why isn't it possible to rip the actors from the imdb site? |
| 13:14 | <fr32> | my girlfriend allways wants to know who isin the movie |
| 13:18 | <thor_> | it's possible, just no-one has done it yet ... |
| 13:19 | <steelep> | it would be nice if imdb had a webservice to deliver back xml |
| 13:19 | <steelep> | they are killing their own bandwidth by not providing that |
| 13:20 | <Chutt> | should switch over to using amazon |
| 13:20 | <Chutt> | since they do have a webservice for that |
| 13:20 | <thor_> | it's amazon ... they wanna "deliver eyeballs" |
| 13:25 | <fr32> | ok lets hope someone will make it for my gf, because i can't! |
| 13:25 | <fr32> | one more question? |
| 13:26 | <fr32> | i have a audigy sound card but the volume control does not work |
| 13:27 | <fr32> | anyone an idea |
| 13:28 | <fr32> | next time have to go |
| 13:28 | <fr32> | bye |
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| 13:36 | <tmk> | thx for the update chutt |
| 13:37 | <tmk> | that fr32 guy was quite entertaining (to me at least) |
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| 13:39 | <sfr> | Chutt: would you create new classes for mythmusic streaming or incorporate that into the existing decoder classes? |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | new input class |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | tmk, what's the branch name i want again? |
| 13:44 | <sfr> | Chutt: Me? similar to decoder.cpp? |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | no, similar to the streaminput class |
| 13:45 | <sfr> | for the networking stuff, yes. but for the data handling like decoder.cpp, or... not? |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | shouldn't need it |
| 13:45 | | * sfr is confused |
| 13:46 | <sfr> | so how to get the data to the output thread? |
| 13:46 | <tmk> | Chutt: decoder-devel |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | sfr, it should just read from it |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | a QSocket is a QIODevice |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | and that's what those decoder classes read from |
| 13:47 | | * tmk is glad to see he's not the only one confused by myth's internals |
| 13:47 | <tmk> | :) |
| 13:48 | <sfr> | yes QFile now. But don't i need to duplicate the decoder class? the only difference being i read from a socket not a file? |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | no |
| 13:49 | <sfr> | tmk: i'm easily confused by cpp code. |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | a QFile is a QIODevice |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | a QSocket is a QIODevice |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | they work the same |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | you don't have to change anything to deal with either. |
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| 13:50 | <sfr> | You mean, to add the stream stuff actually in the playbackbox.cpp/ create s/t similar for streaming? |
| 13:50 | <marc> | hello... |
| 13:50 | <tmk> | hi |
| 13:50 | <marc> | is the mpeg-decoder for the EPIA supposed to work in pal-country? |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | no, i mean you don't have to touch the decoder classes at all to add the stream stuff |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | marc, seeing as i'm not in pal-country, i wouldn't know. |
| 13:51 | <marc> | I am, and not getting much resembling an MPEG stream. CPU load's low, though ;-) |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | make sure via's version of xine works first. |
| 13:52 | <marc> | yeah, I should... good point. |
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| 13:55 | <sfr> | ok, got that. But i think i need/want to create another menu for streams. A stream shouldn't show up in a playlist. And i need to setup the socket connection before calling Decoder::create |
| 13:56 | <thor_> | holy crap ... PVR-250 is really nice |
| 13:56 | <sfr> | thor_: You got one today? |
| 13:57 | <thor_> | I bought three about 6 months ago, finally had time to plug one in |
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| 14:02 | <Chutt> | tmk, what's videoout1 supposed to be? |
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| 14:19 | <Chutt> | tmk, nevermind, got it all working |
| 14:19 | <sfr> | Chutt: ok, got that. But i think i need/want to create another menu for streams. A stream shouldn't show up in a playlist. And i need to setup the socket connection before calling Decoder::create |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | why shouldn't it show up in a playlist? |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | i used to put streams in playlists all the time when i worked on freeamp |
| 14:20 | <sfr> | Chutt: imagine it playing for hours and hours and... |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | it was nice to be able to flip around just by moving around in the playlist |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | so? |
| 14:22 | <sfr> | Chutt: Hmm, on one hand it might be not such a bad idea. And probably the simplest solution to get started. But when someone writes a radio plugin i think streams should be moved to this radio plugin. |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | there shouldn't be a separate radio plugin |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | you shouldn't have two separate interfaces to listen to music. |
| 14:25 | <sfr> | Chutt: with some changes to the current one, maybe not. Anyway that's not my business. |
| 14:25 | | * sfr thinks too complicated, it seems. |
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| 14:33 | <tmk> | Chutt: excellent! |
| 14:34 | <bline> | egg-sillent |
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| 14:35 | <o_cee> | weh! i'm back ;) |
| 14:36 | <o_cee> | is tmk around? |
| 14:36 | <tmk> | <-- |
| 14:36 | <sfr> | o_cee: you've been away? didn't notice :) |
| 14:36 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 14:36 | <o_cee> | sfr: bah |
| 14:37 | <o_cee> | tmk: what firmware should i be using for the pvr250? i'm having some problems with dropped audio and "Sep 10 19:35:58 [kernel] ivtv: Not enough free buffers, stream 0" |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | that's a client side problem |
| 14:37 | <Chutt> | tmk, is the osd a fixed size? |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | you're not reading data fast enough |
| 14:37 | <o_cee> | dunno if it's because of the new firmware? |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | Chutt: yeah |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | full-resolution |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | can i query that? |
| 14:38 | <o_cee> | tmk: what can be causing that? anything else than bad siqnal quality? it's going throu a DVB-C card at the moment... |
| 14:39 | <o_cee> | i mean, the hardware shouldnt be any problems.. |
| 14:40 | <o_cee> | are you using Name: (PVR250_17_21199.exe Updated June 6, 2003) as well? remeber updating to that version when the mythdocs changed about that.. |
| 14:40 | <o_cee> | i've also changed the above/below now.. if that would make any difference.. |
| 14:40 | <o_cee> | argh :) |
| 14:40 | <o_cee> | Chutt: did you see my mail about qtconfig? isn't that kind of strange? |
| 14:41 | <tmk> | oc: mind taking this to #ivtv-dev? |
| 14:41 | <o_cee> | sure |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | o_cee, not really |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | if you didn't have a ~/.qt/qtrc, it'd create it. |
| 14:44 | <o_cee> | ok.. is that just because of gentoo's emerge? otherwise it could be mentioned in the docs i htink |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | stuff's setup right on debian and redhat |
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| 14:49 | <o_cee> | ok.. could add it to a gentoo specific section. |
| 14:49 | <o_cee> | i was really amazed when i relaunched myth :) had to look at all the screens to find new things, hehhe |
| 14:50 | <steelep> | is there a hot key in mythmusic for ratings now? |
| 14:51 | <steelep> | alot of things could be done with ratings.... autoplaylists, etc. |
| 14:51 | <kja> | steelep: have you managed to compile myth with my patch yet? |
| 14:51 | <steelep> | no :( |
| 14:52 | <kja> | steelep: k, just wondering |
| 14:52 | <steelep> | I was reading about dvb-kernel and got a little side tracked last night installing it |
| 14:52 | <steelep> | it seems it's gonna be required for capturing correctly |
| 14:52 | <kja> | nope |
| 14:53 | <steelep> | what about the colorspace swapping? |
| 14:53 | <steelep> | are you handling that somehow? |
| 14:53 | <kja> | think that is hardware decoding related |
| 14:53 | <steelep> | oic |
| 14:54 | <steelep> | I thought that maybe I was being thick and you were requiring v4l2 and I didn't have it installed |
| 14:54 | <kja> | we grab the stream directly, best quality that way |
| 14:54 | <steelep> | now my include links are bad again so i have to go correct those to get the compile to roll again |
| 14:54 | <kja> | just edit settings.pro |
| 14:55 | <steelep> | I would think that you could just save the stream directly, I didn't see the point in what they were saying for anything other than playback |
| 14:55 | <steelep> | isn't that the whole objective of dvb in the firstplace, just save the TS without re-encoding |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | tmk, is there an ioctl i can use to tell if video output is present? |
| 14:57 | <kja> | could do a reencode if you are short on space |
| 14:57 | <tmk> | hmm no not yet |
| 14:57 | <steelep> | I added my include dir (/usr/src/DVB/include) in settings but it's not finding frontend.h for some reason, i'll figure that out though |
| 14:57 | <tmk> | err yeah wait |
| 14:57 | <tmk> | the v4l call |
| 14:57 | <tmk> | has video_output |
| 14:57 | <steelep> | I want to do re-encodes with the transcoder |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | oh yeah |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 14:57 | <tmk> | VIDIOC_G_CAP |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | forgot 'bout that |
| 14:58 | <tmk> | i'm setting that for pvr350 only |
| 14:58 | <steelep> | if you are saving streams you should be able to do several at once with no problems |
| 14:58 | <steelep> | I want an all digital backend... a couple nexus cards and an hdtv terrestrial card |
| 14:59 | <kja> | as long as the programmes are in the same boquet |
| 14:59 | <steelep> | well, maybe on different cards |
| 15:00 | <steelep> | like one from each of 3 |
| 15:00 | <o_cee> | btw, Chutt: i ran into some with xvmc. but i guess you're aware of them. but it seemed like if i'd been watching livetv, i couldn't exit out to the menus and them go back to livetv again.. do you know about that or will you need bt's? |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | i'd prefer a patch. |
| 15:01 | <o_cee> | heheh :) |
| 15:01 | <o_cee> | i love you too |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | i don't use the xvmc stuff. |
| 15:04 | <steelep> | INCLUDEPATH *= /usr/local/include |
| 15:04 | <steelep> | shouldn't that be += ? |
| 15:05 | <tmk> | what's xvmc anyhow |
| 15:05 | <o_cee> | Chutt: fair enough. don't think i'll be needing it either.. |
| 15:05 | | * steelep gets really confused over the inconsistencies stuff |
| 15:05 | <o_cee> | x video motion compensation, right? |
| 15:05 | <o_cee> | mpeg acceleration on nvidia cards |
| 15:05 | <o_cee> | gf4 and gffx |
| 15:06 | <Chutt> | steelep, how's that inconsistant? |
| 15:06 | <Chutt> | if you bothered to look at the qmake docs, you'd see that *= means 'add it only if it's not already there' |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | tmk, is there really a need to send entire gops to the decoder? |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | or can i just send 64k of data all the time |
| 15:09 | <tmk> | i'd either send a frame at a time |
| 15:09 | <tmk> | or 64k at a time |
| 15:09 | <steelep> | *= vs += |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | tmk, the patch sends entire gop blocks |
| 15:10 | <tmk> | ya i saw that |
| 15:10 | <steelep> | I have looked at the docs |
| 15:10 | <steelep> | it's still inconsistent |
| 15:10 | <tmk> | Chutt: are you going to close/open the stream on ff? |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | well, so far i've got it probing properly |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | tmk, i dunno yet |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | steelep, um, no, it's not. |
| 15:10 | <steelep> | ok |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | that's a semi-standard include path. |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | there's no reason to include it twice if it's already there |
| 15:11 | <steelep> | I mean |
| 15:11 | <tmk> | i think that may give you cleaner playback (ie no blockyness on ff) |
| 15:11 | <steelep> | i am not used to seeing it |
| 15:11 | <tmk> | but only if you specify the GOP offset and such |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | we'll see |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | i should be able to do all that |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | so if i give it a gop offset, i just send it data, and it skips display of X frames? |
| 15:11 | <tmk> | right |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | great |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | that should work well =) |
| 15:11 | <tmk> | hope so |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | i'm trying to decide where all the ioctls should go |
| 15:12 | <tmk> | i've nto tested that however |
| 15:12 | <tmk> | did you see the CTRL's i added? |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | no |
| 15:12 | <tmk> | V4l2_CID_blahblah |
| 15:12 | <tmk> | it's in that api email i sent you |
| 15:12 | <tmk> | though not by #define name |
| 15:13 | <tmk> | you'll want to set at least the 'hide last frame' one to 0 |
| 15:13 | <tmk> | else it'll blackscreen when you close it |
| 15:13 | <Chutt> | just use the current ivtv-ext-api.h from cvs? |
| 15:13 | <tmk> | yep |
| 15:13 | <tmk> | that has all the stuff in it |
| 15:13 | <Chutt> | i'm figuring that once i get the basics done, you can help work on it s'more =) |
| 15:14 | <tmk> | yep, that'd be correct |
| 15:18 | <o_cee> | Chutt: the category parsing of xmltv and mythfilldatabase.. doesn't work for sweden/norway. is it because it's not implemented in myth/xmltv or is it broke? |
| 15:18 | <o_cee> | just noticed the category info is on the original site |
| 15:27 | <o_cee> | could anyone with the NA listning tell me what you get in "Subtitle"? what's supposed to be there? |
| 15:28 | <sfr> | o_cee: is the category field in the program table empty, or only the coloring in the EPG wrong? |
| 15:28 | <o_cee> | sfr: empty in the database. |
| 15:29 | <o_cee> | but i thought maybe a translation for swedish is needed or something |
| 15:29 | <sfr> | o_cee: then you tv_grab_se script isn't working proberly i think. |
| 15:30 | <sfr> | o_cee: yeah, the categories need to be known in the theme as well. there you define the coloring. |
| 15:30 | <o_cee> | sfr: i'll run xmltv manually to see if the info is there or not.. |
| 15:30 | <o_cee> | oh, filldatabase just fills in the foreign values, okay.. |
| 15:30 | <o_cee> | but first the database :) |
| 15:32 | <o_cee> | i just assumed that there where no category info on the source.. |
| 15:32 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 15:32 | <o_cee> | but there is |
| 15:36 | <o_cee> | hmm.. seems like it's xmltv. |
| 15:38 | <o_cee> | there's no <category></category> |
| 15:47 | <o_cee> | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=768441&group_id=39046&atid=424138 |
| 15:47 | <o_cee> | ah well. |
| 15:54 | <sfr> | hm, i scheduled a recording for today (Type T in the EPG, timeslot right?) and it should have stopped 30 minutes ago, but the file is still growing. But it's marked finished in the watch-recordings screen. Anyone seen this. |
| 15:59 | <sfr> | got that in the backends log: IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() and then Changing from RecordingOnly to None. But it's still recording. |
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| 16:21 | <tmk> | . |
| 16:45 | <Chutt> | apparently wasting lots of people's time is an acceptible alternative to looking in the mailing list archives |
| 16:45 | <o_cee> | who're you talking to? |
| 16:45 | <sfr> | me? |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | dumbass on the mailing list |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | no, not you |
| 16:46 | <o_cee> | program.airdate.. NULL=no... what happens here is that all airdates are set to 2000...? since that info isn't in the listning.. |
| 16:47 | <o_cee> | is it that important so that it !NULL? |
| 16:47 | <Chutt> | yes. |
| 16:47 | <Chutt> | things assume there's a value there. |
| 16:47 | <o_cee> | wouldn't it make more sense to set it to the current year then? |
| 16:47 | <o_cee> | ok |
| 16:48 | <o_cee> | current year would probably look better though. |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | it's barely displayed anywhere. |
| 16:48 | <o_cee> | nah. mostly in mythweb |
| 16:49 | <o_cee> | to bad our only listning sucks.. lacks alot of info that you got |
| 16:49 | <o_cee> | it's pretty reliable though |
| 16:51 | <o_cee> | and the category stuff was xmltv's fault |
| 16:52 | <o_cee> | kinda annoying when the info is there.. don't get the color coding, the ability to search movies and so on.. |
| 16:53 | <o_cee> | btw, another thing i tought about. as it currently is, is itpossible to make an osd skin that has a timebar showing relatively how much of the program that's been shown? would be really nice. |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | in live tv mode? |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | sure, with a little code. |
| 16:56 | <o_cee> | yeah, the info popup |
| 16:57 | <o_cee> | okay. just wanted to know if it was possible already but not in the skin.. and yeah, i know. "submit a patch" :) |
| 16:57 | <o_cee> | a feature often seen on "real" decoders |
| 16:57 | <o_cee> | the ones i've tried at least |
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| 16:59 | | * sfr just realizes the most important (but yet missing) plugin: mythirc with osd support. |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | has anyone checked out that mini-browser? |
| 17:00 | <o_cee> | noh |
| 17:01 | <o_cee> | said something about kde.. |
| 17:01 | <o_cee> | sfr: heheh |
| 17:01 | <o_cee> | i found that patch for the epg, so that it changes on enter and space instead. worked great. |
| 17:02 | <o_cee> | was the mini-browser that bad? |
| 17:02 | <sfr> | i guess Chutt didn't try it yet :) |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | i haven't looked at it |
| 17:02 | <sfr> | see |
| 17:02 | <o_cee> | ah, k |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | been busy. |
| 17:03 | <o_cee> | anyone up for the task of the elapsed time bar thingie for the osd? |
| 17:05 | | * mikegrb watches o_cee volunteer |
| 17:06 | <o_cee> | still, in the epg.. when using transparent station logos, in the upper left corner.. there's the black thing with the yellow text in the background.. what's the name of those two things in the skin? couldn't tell when i looked at it. thought i'd just remove them |
| 17:06 | <o_cee> | mikegrb:) maybe later, heh |
| 17:08 | <mikegrb> | :-) |
| 17:09 | <o_cee> | wouldn't it be nice Chutt? |
| 17:09 | | * o_cee thinks so :) |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | i don't really see the need for it |
| 17:09 | <o_cee> | well, the osd doesn't tell you the start or the endtime |
| 17:10 | <o_cee> | i mean.. are really ALL of you programs over there 100% strict on the 30 minute blocks? it's not like that at all here. |
| 17:10 | <o_cee> | so it's not enough knowing what time it is |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | not everything, but for the most part. |
| 17:11 | <o_cee> | that's the difference.. for us it's more of a need to know when it started and when it's going to stop.. |
| 17:12 | <o_cee> | but i see how you feel it's not necesarry since most things are so strictly tied up |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | tmk, around? |
| 17:13 | <o_cee> | at least as an option for the skinmaker.. if you add the code i'll fix the osd ;) |
| 17:14 | <o_cee> | hehe, going to bed now. |
| 17:14 | <o_cee> | later all |
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| 17:17 | <tmk> | Chutt: am now |
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| 17:20 | <Chutt> | know why the decoder would only be displaying black and white? |
| 17:24 | <tmk> | yeah how did you load saa7127 |
| 17:24 | <Chutt> | it was in color for awhile |
| 17:24 | <Chutt> | then it just started doing b&w |
| 17:25 | <tmk> | hrm |
| 17:25 | <tmk> | are you using svideo |
| 17:25 | <tmk> | or composite |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | svideo |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | got color back by reloading the driver |
| 17:26 | <tmk> | not sure, never seen that happen before |
| 17:26 | <tmk> | i use composite though |
| 17:26 | <tmk> | you should load saa7127 like this: |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | output_enable=1 pal=0 output_select=1 |
| 17:27 | <tmk> | insmod saa7127.o enable_output=1 output_select=1 pal=0 |
| 17:27 | <tmk> | :) |
| 17:27 | <tmk> | which driver did you reload? |
| 17:27 | <tmk> | ivtv or saa7127 |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | err, enable_output |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | both of those |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | if it happens again, i'll try each |
| 17:27 | <tmk> | should just be saa7127 |
| 17:28 | <tmk> | i heard of one guy having a similar problem, but i assumed he had other issues :) |
| 17:32 | <Chutt> | about ready to check my first cut of things into cvs |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | basically, that patch with the stream reading additions |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | well |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | and the 'don't write the entire gop' stuff |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | and a bunch of other junk cleaned up |
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| 17:39 | <Chutt> | tmk, who did the original patch again? |
| 17:39 | <tmk> | matt yourst |
| 17:40 | <tmk> | his stuff generally seems to work very well |
| 17:40 | <tmk> | though his coding style needs some 'indent' |
| 17:41 | <tmk> | Chutt: did you get rid of 'hardwaredecoder.cpp' ? |
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| 17:42 | <Chutt> | i called it ivtvdecoder.cpp |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | didn't want to munge up avformatdecoder too much |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | easier to keep it separate |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | it's in my cvs tree now |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | just uncomment the 'return false;' at the top of IvtvDecoder::CanHandle() |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | for it to get used |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | there's nothing to enable in libmythtv.pro |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | and /dev/video16 is hardcoded a couple places |
| 17:46 | <tmk> | k |
| 17:46 | <tmk> | i can ln -s that :) |
| 17:46 | <tmk> | does it still print status out 10 times a second? :) |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | i got rid of all that crap |
| 17:47 | <tmk> | so how does it work now? send 64k at a time? |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | 128k |
| 17:47 | <tmk> | ooh fancy |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | i don't have audio hooked up, but the video is smooth |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | seeking works |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | live tv seems to work |
| 17:47 | <tmk> | did you do the close/open trick? |
| 17:47 | <tmk> | or just local seeking |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | closes/opens |
| 17:48 | <tmk> | with GOP offset i suppose? |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | not yet |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | it's just doing gop-level seeking for now |
| 17:48 | <tmk> | does it just seek to the last known gop |
| 17:48 | <tmk> | ok |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | and it blanks the screen when it does that |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | as i didn't put in the ioctl to keep the last frame up |
| 17:48 | <tmk> | i see what's being left for me to do |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | i'll keep working on it |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | just wanted to get stuff into cvs |
| 17:49 | <tmk> | is it obvious how to tell the gop offset? |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | yeah, there's two comments |
| 17:49 | <tmk> | k |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | in DoFastForward and DoRewind |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | there's a variable 'normalframes', which is how many frames into the gop it's supposed to start |
| 17:50 | <tmk> | k |
| 17:50 | <tmk> | i may work on it some tonight |
| 17:50 | <tmk> | though my todo list has grown in recent days |
| 17:51 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:51 | <Chutt> | instead of opening/closing the stream |
| 17:51 | <Chutt> | can it just use 0x02 and 0x01? |
| 17:51 | <tmk> | lemem check |
| 17:51 | <Chutt> | 0x02 is 'end and clear' |
| 17:52 | <tmk> | if you do the direct firmware calls |
| 17:52 | <tmk> | but the ones i put in for this purpose apply those settings to the next close or open |
| 17:53 | <tmk> | so you don't have to think about it |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | right |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | did you put in a call to start it at a frame in a gop? |
| 17:53 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 17:53 | <tmk> | they're ioctls actually |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | ah, STOP_DECODE and START_DECODE |
| 17:54 | <tmk> | #define IVTV_IOC_S_START_DECODE 0xFFEE7786 |
| 17:54 | <tmk> | #define IVTV_IOC_S_STOP_DECODE 0xFFEE7787 |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | neither touches the firmware, though =) |
| 17:54 | <tmk> | nope |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | they set vars that are used when streams are opened or closed tho |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | <spam> |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | struct ivtv_cfg_start_decode { |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | uint32_t gop_offset; /*Frames in GOP to skip before starting */ |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | uint32_t muted_audio_frames;/* #of audio frames to mute */ |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | }; |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | struct vtv_cfg_stop_decode { |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | int hide_last;/* 1 = show black after stop,0 = show last frame */ |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | uint64_t pts_stop; /* PTS to stop at */ |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | }; |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | </spam> |
| 17:55 | <tmk> | err |
| 17:56 | <tmk> | heh ther's a typo |
| 17:56 | | * tmk fixes |
| 17:56 | <Chutt> | what's a typo? |
| 17:56 | <tmk> | struct vtv_cfg_stop_decode |
| 17:56 | <tmk> | should be struct ivtv... |
| 17:57 | <Chutt> | is gop_offset 0 or 1 based? |
| 17:57 | <tmk> | 0 i believe |
| 17:57 | <tmk> | yes definately 0 |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | ok, added those |
| 17:58 | <tmk> | has to be 0, really |
| 17:58 | <tmk> | cool |
| 17:58 | <tmk> | but do they work? |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | well |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 17:59 | <tmk> | still send starting at beginning of GOP |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | going to have to wait until i get the osd working |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | right |
| 17:59 | <tmk> | yeah i need to talk to matt about the OSD |
| 17:59 | <tmk> | unfortunately, X sends 24bit color as 32 bit |
| 17:59 | <tmk> | with the first 8 set to 0 |
| 17:59 | <tmk> | which kills alpha |
| 18:00 | <tmk> | so i need to get him to put in a way to ignore X calls while it's playing back |
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| 18:01 | <Chutt> | a way to disable the framebuffer driver would work |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | well, hmm |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 18:02 | <tmk> | yeah i looked through it, not sure quite how it's working |
| 18:03 | <tmk> | ie where X gets the write-to address from |
| 18:03 | <tmk> | if X just gets the mem offset on the card and dma's itself |
| 18:03 | <tmk> | then we may be out of luck |
| 18:04 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 18:04 | <tmk> | and if we kill of x |
| 18:04 | <tmk> | bye bye myth heh |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | though i'm fairly sure we're doing all the calls for x |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | well, what about qt/embedded? |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | does it go direct to a framebuffer? |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | probably should make it clear to black when done playing |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | well |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | while playing |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | myth clears to black |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | right? |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | aah |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | ok, does qt/embedded update the screen |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | like when mousemove |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | i don't think so |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | or remote buttonpush |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | might be ok then |
| 18:08 | <tmk> | fyi, by default the OSD is in global alpha mdoe |
| 18:08 | <tmk> | need to switch that when you go to playback mode (but that was due to X's 32bit thing) |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 18:08 | <tmk> | does qt/embedded allow you to specify an alpha |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | i don't believe so |
| 18:09 | <tmk> | and is it part of myth |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | oooh |
| 18:09 | <tmk> | or an external package |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | we can do the program guide with a global alpha value |
| 18:09 | <tmk> | ya that's no problem |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | that'd look spiffy |
| 18:09 | | * tmk isn't sure he understands now |
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| 18:09 | <tmk> | you mean overlayed on video? |
| 18:09 | <tmk> | or fading into it? heh |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:10 | <tmk> | oh yeah, the program guide |
| 18:10 | <tmk> | while watching TV |
| 18:10 | <tmk> | you mean |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | right |
| 18:10 | <tmk> | yeah, that'd be nice |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | i was wondering how to do that, since you said we can't tell it only to display the video to a portion of the screen |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | but if it's mostly opaque, that'd work |
| 18:10 | <thor_> | hehe, just picked up my first Wired in about 5 years: "It took Linux programmer Isaac Richards ... less than a year to slap together MythTV, a full featured open source knockoff [of Tivo] in [his] spare time." |
| 18:10 | <tmk> | but it'd be just as easy to do it with a local alpha |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | you can do the video decoding in software |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | there, the exact seeking stuff's in cvs |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | it wouldn't be full-framerate probably |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | eh, pain to switch back and forth between hardware and software decoding |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | but the fb can display pretty fast |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | heh |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | so how does one use qt/embedded |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | ok, dinner time |
| 18:12 | <tmk> | k catch you alter |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | just have to compile against it |
| 18:12 | <tmk> | in settings.pro? |
| 18:12 | <tmk> | <hint hint> |
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| 18:17 | <hadees> | anyone one have any remote control sugestions for mythtv? |
| 18:17 | <tmk> | still fighting it eh |
| 18:17 | <thor_> | irman, standard universal remote ? |
| 18:18 | <hadees> | the irman remote or do you mean any universal remote? |
| 18:18 | <thor_> | any universal with irman |
| 18:23 | <steelep> | anybody know why qmake would make a skeleton Makefile with not files listed inside? |
| 18:24 | <thor_> | depends on relevant .pro |
| 18:24 | <steelep> | its libs/libdvbdev |
| 18:24 | <steelep> | .pro |
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| 18:24 | <steelep> | this is makin be seriously crazy :) |
| 18:25 | <Chutt> | steelep, don't have the dvb stuff uncommented in settings.pro? |
| 18:26 | <steelep> | maybe, I'll take a look this is another fresh install after I upgraded to v4l2 |
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| 18:26 | <steelep> | yep, thanks was being retarded and not editing it after applying the patch |
| 18:27 | <Chutt> | tmk, your stuff just locked up my machine :p |
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| 18:34 | <hadees> | what happend to the lcd stuff? is it still in mythtv and is someone working on it? |
| 18:34 | <sfr> | Chutt: myth can't lock up your machine, read the docs. |
| 18:34 | <thor_> | hadees, yes ... it has been recently improved. Need to enable it though. |
| 18:35 | <hadees> | i thought it was gone because i didn't see the enable command in the docs anymore |
| 18:35 | <thor_> | I think Chutt moved the flag to the .pro file |
| 18:36 | <hadees> | are the flags in there or do i enable them in there? |
| 18:36 | <thor_> | in settings.pro, top level, uncomment the define |
| 18:36 | <tmk> | Chutt: i'd prefer a patch |
| 18:37 | <tmk> | or at least some debugging info ;) |
| 18:37 | <hadees> | on that note how is the native lirc support? |
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| 18:39 | <thor_> | hadees, dunno, never tried it |
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| 18:46 | <hadees> | what is a good window manager to just use mythtv in? |
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| 18:59 | <Chutt> | tmk, live-tv mode, so encoding and decoding at the same time |
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| 19:01 | <tmk> | well that's a little bit more info |
| 19:01 | <tmk> | i was thinking about the debug=3 logs |
| 19:01 | <tmk> | or the segfault |
| 19:01 | <Chutt> | i had debug mode turned off |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | so =) |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | if it happens again, i'll let you know |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | cool |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | it may :) |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | did it lock the box |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | or just the decode |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | the decode stops soemtimes |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | locked the entire box |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | still trackign that one down |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | just got an email from matt |
| 19:02 | <tmk> | with some more info about ivtv-fb and such |
| 19:03 | <tmk> | do we want to make it work with normal X fb |
| 19:03 | <Chutt> | anything i should know? |
| 19:03 | <tmk> | or aim at qt/embedded |
| 19:03 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 19:03 | <Chutt> | i think qt/e would be faster |
| 19:03 | <Chutt> | but, if it works with normal x fb |
| 19:03 | <tmk> | normal X would result in fewer emails from cluless users |
| 19:03 | <Chutt> | that's probably easier for people to setup |
| 19:03 | <tmk> | let's aim at X |
| 19:03 | <tmk> | and if that's too slow |
| 19:04 | <tmk> | require qt/e |
| 19:04 | <Chutt> | well |
| 19:04 | <Chutt> | should probably work both ways without too much trouble, right? |
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| 19:06 | <jarodwilson> | tmk: about that 'add below'/'add above' debate... |
| 19:07 | <jarodwilson> | If I have 'add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner lirc_dev lirc_i2c', lircd bombs out (lircd dead, subsys locked) |
| 19:08 | <Chutt> | lircd has to load after ivtv |
| 19:08 | <jarodwilson> | With 'add above ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner' and a separate 'add below ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c', everything is fine |
| 19:08 | <Chutt> | the others have to load before. |
| 19:09 | <jarodwilson> | so the split add above & add below would be correct, right? |
| 19:09 | <jarodwilson> | 'cuz there was a message from tmk on the ivtv list that it should all be below, unless I misunderstood |
| 19:10 | <Chutt> | i believe that you have above and below backwards, but, something like that |
| 19:11 | <jarodwilson> | My modules.conf has add above ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner |
| 19:11 | <jarodwilson> | add below ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c |
| 19:11 | <jarodwilson> | and everything works like it should (or so I think :) |
| 19:11 | <Chutt> | above means after, below means before |
| 19:11 | <Chutt> | at last according to the modules.conf manpage |
| 19:12 | <jarodwilson> | You would think they'd have used before and after, rather than above and below... |
| 19:12 | <Chutt> | it's a stack :p |
| 19:12 | <Chutt> | stuff gets executed in order |
| 19:13 | <jarodwilson> | Aha. |
| 19:13 | <jarodwilson> | I vaguely recall studying stacks some time ago... |
| 19:13 | <jarodwilson> | All those years of programming in college... |
| 19:14 | <jarodwilson> | Well, I guess I'll just have to see what happens if I flip the statements in my modules.conf |
| 19:15 | <jarodwilson> | Now if my college programming courses actually used interesting examples, I might have enjoyed programming more... |
| 19:15 | <jarodwilson> | (rebooting now, with modified modules.conf) |
| 19:16 | <tmk> | it should be 'bemow' |
| 19:16 | <tmk> | err |
| 19:16 | <tmk> | heh |
| 19:16 | <tmk> | below |
| 19:17 | <jarodwilson> | If I have everything below, lircd bombs out though, and ivtv doesn't load |
| 19:17 | <jarodwilson> | I'm not initializing ivtv until I start watching TV though, i think |
| 19:17 | <jarodwilson> | Is there an init script I should be using, and somehow have missed after all this time? |
| 19:20 | <tmk> | jarodwilson: just adding the stuff to modules.conf doesn't make it load |
| 19:20 | <jarodwilson> | Okay... |
| 19:20 | <tmk> | it only loads when you read from /dev/videoX |
| 19:20 | <tmk> | so if you want to run lirc and have that work |
| 19:20 | <jarodwilson> | No, I know that much, (sorry), |
| 19:20 | <tmk> | you should 'add below lirc_dev ivtv' |
| 19:20 | <jarodwilson> | I'm just trying to figure out exactly what the right modules.conf setup is... :) |
| 19:21 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 19:21 | <tmk> | modprobe -v should show you what happens |
| 19:21 | <tmk> | so run modules.conf |
| 19:21 | <tmk> | err |
| 19:21 | <tmk> | edit |
| 19:21 | <tmk> | then modprobe -v ivtv |
| 19:22 | <jarodwilson> | It works fine if I have either "add below ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c" and "add above ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner" |
| 19:22 | <tmk> | and it should print out (but not load) what it plans on doing |
| 19:22 | <tmk> | hmm, i'd say you want: |
| 19:22 | <jarodwilson> | or "add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c" and "add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner" |
| 19:23 | <jarodwilson> | but not if it is all on the same line "add below ivtv ..." |
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| 19:29 | <tmk> | yo chutt, cvs mythtv doesn't compile for me |
| 19:29 | <tmk> | ivtvdecoder.cpp:85 'close' not defined |
| 19:29 | <tmk> | heh |
| 19:29 | <tmk> | where it closes the file |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | 'sec |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | all done |
| 19:34 | | * tmk updates cvs |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | forgot #include <stdio.h> eh |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | unistd |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | and what's with these warnings: |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | cc1plus: warning: changing search order for system directory "/usr/local/include" |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | cc1plus: warning: as it has already been specified as a non-system directory |
| 19:35 | <Chutt> | old g++ being a pain |
| 19:35 | <jarodwilson> | tmk: so, you said "hmm, i'd say you want:"... What do you say I want? |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | k |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | oh |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | heh forgotu about that |
| 19:35 | <jarodwilson> | Heh. I'm pretty forgettable. |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | i think if you specify the full stack with below for ivtv |
| 19:35 | <tmk> | and omit lirc stuff |
| 19:36 | <tmk> | then add ivtv to the end of the stack for lirc |
| 19:36 | <tmk> | you should be ok |
| 19:36 | <tmk> | add below on both counts |
| 19:36 | <jarodwilson> | So an add below ivtv line, then an add below lirc_i2c lirc_dev ivtv line? |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | if 'line' is all the ivtv modules then you should just need |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | add below ivtv line |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | add below lirc_i2c lirc_dev ivtv |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | i just list all the modules in order |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | none of that add below/above crap |
| 19:37 | <tmk> | :) |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | modules.conf is more complicated than it needs to be i think |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | so many wierd options |
| 19:38 | <Chutt> | stick it into rc.local if you're on redhat or whatnot |
| 19:38 | <Chutt> | modprobe X |
| 19:38 | <Chutt> | modprobe Y |
| 19:38 | <Chutt> | blah blah blah |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | i have a .sh script |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | ./init.sh |
| 19:38 | <tmk> | :) |
| 19:40 | <jarodwilson> | So the moral of the story is, there's about 50 different ways to do it, several of which work. :) |
| 19:40 | <Chutt> | see how simple ivtvdecoder.cpp is? =) |
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| 19:41 | <tmk> | eh? |
| 19:42 | <Chutt> | i mostly just deleted stuff from avformatdecoder.cpp |
| 19:42 | <tmk> | oh i haven't really looked at it yet |
| 19:43 | <tmk> | i'm at work still :) |
| 19:43 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 19:44 | <tmk> | not everyone gets to work from home |
| 19:44 | <tmk> | </jealous> |
| 19:44 | <Chutt> | eh, it's not all that |
| 19:44 | <tmk> | well |
| 19:44 | <tmk> | yuou seem to have lots of tiem to work on myth |
| 19:44 | <jarodwilson> | I definitely like it better than having to commute. :) |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | a lot of my work stuff takes multiple hours until i get results |
| 19:47 | <jarodwilson> | I know that feeling... |
| 19:48 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: whats this about mythnews setup page loosing focus. not able to reproduce it here |
| 19:49 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, all i have to do is hit the down arrow a bunch of times, and focus goes off the left-most listview and to nowhere |
| 19:49 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: lemme try that |
| 19:51 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: not happening here |
| 19:51 | <jarodwilson> | tmk: trying your suggestion for modules.conf now... |
| 19:52 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: for me the focus went out of the left listview to the right one |
| 19:52 | <Chutt> | definitely doesn't do that for me, with qt 3.2 |
| 19:54 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: hmm... using qt 3.2 here too on debian unstable. though i'm running against the 0.11 release and not cvs |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | i'll look into it more, then |
| 19:57 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: ok thanks |
| 20:01 | <jarodwilson> | tmk: that config results in a black screen the first time I fire up MythTV and try to watch live TV... |
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| 20:05 | <tmk> | dunno then |
| 20:05 | <tmk> | make heavy use of modprobe -v |
| 20:05 | <tmk> | or make an init script |
| 20:05 | <tmk> | and load them in the order YOU want :) |
| 20:06 | <jarodwilson> | Well, I've got a two-line modules.conf setup that works for me, so I'll roll w/that. :) |
| 20:06 | <tmk> | cool |
| 20:06 | <jarodwilson> | I'll stick to "add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner" followed by "add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c" |
| 20:07 | <jarodwilson> | If it ain't broke, don't fix it, or something like that... |
| 20:07 | <tmk> | Chutt: heh i just noticed when you run 'make install' |
| 20:07 | <tmk> | it strips all the binaries |
| 20:07 | <tmk> | so much for debugging info heh |
| 20:07 | <jarodwilson> | well, later all, the wife and kid just got home... |
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| 20:14 | <tmk> | he hides his computing from the wife |
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| 20:22 | <hadees> | so did nvidia explain why they removed the helpfull code from thier install? |
| 20:22 | <hadees> | actully driver |
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| 20:31 | <jbwiv> | hey guys. |
| 20:31 | <jbwiv> | is anyone here actually using something other than a PVR-250 or PVR-350? |
| 20:36 | <zzo> | of course |
| 20:36 | <jbwiv> | zzo: you are? |
| 20:37 | <zzo> | jbwiv: yes |
| 20:37 | <jbwiv> | zzo: how is your video quality? |
| 20:37 | <zzo> | jbwiv: decent |
| 20:37 | <jbwiv> | zzo: output to tv or monitor? |
| 20:37 | <zzo> | jbwiv: tv on one frontend & a monitor on another - not as good a watching straight tv |
| 20:38 | <zzo> | jbwiv: or xawtv |
| 20:38 | <jbwiv> | zzo: ok. |
| 20:38 | <jbwiv> | zzo: I've gone through two cards now thinking it was just my setup. |
| 20:39 | <jbwiv> | zzo: I get this blockiness when doing mpeg4. RJPeg makes it better, but a little fuzzier and lighter. |
| 20:39 | <zzo> | jbwiv: i've got a kworld & a ATI VE & both look the same |
| 20:39 | <jbwiv> | zzo: you see the same? |
| 20:39 | <zzo> | bjwiv: no blockiness - looks sorta washed out for me - i use mpeg4 |
| 20:39 | <jbwiv> | zzo: I first used an ATI TV Wonder and am now using a Hauppauge WinTV GO. |
| 20:40 | <jbwiv> | zzo: hmm...what settings, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 20:40 | <zzo> | jbwiv: i use the ati ve wonder |
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| 20:40 | <jbwiv> | zzo: as an aside, I've also got a PVR-250, which looks awesome. |
| 20:40 | <jbwiv> | zzo: well, awesome compared to the WinTV GO or TV Wonder |
| 20:40 | <cdavis> | ok, this is a stupid question but what can I name my computer besides 127.0.0.1? can I use my hostname or will localhost work? |
| 20:41 | <cdavis> | BTW, this is when I set up my mysql database |
| 20:41 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: should, imo |
| 20:41 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: ah. another story entirely |
| 20:41 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: it all depends on how you set up the user in mysql |
| 20:41 | <zzo> | jbwiv: 480x480 |
| 20:42 | <jbwiv> | zzo: interesting...same here. |
| 20:42 | <cdavis> | well I want to set up mythtv to run in a dorm room but it will also be a linux box for normal use |
| 20:42 | <jbwiv> | slight blockiness...almost matrix-like, if you're standing up close, except it's not falling. |
| 20:42 | <jbwiv> | on a 27" tv. |
| 20:42 | <cdavis> | so I set up a mythtv user to run the prog, it just complains about not being able to connect to the backend |
| 20:42 | <zzo> | jbwiv: i've got a 27" tv too - what's yer cpu? |
| 20:42 | <jbwiv> | cdavis, is the backend running? |
| 20:43 | <jbwiv> | zzo: Athlon 2200+ XP |
| 20:43 | <cdavis> | jbwiv: no, that's what I am having trouble with |
| 20:43 | <jbwiv> | zzo: you? |
| 20:43 | <tmk> | you have to run mythbackup as the mythtv user |
| 20:43 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: what error message is spit out when you start mythbackend? |
| 20:43 | <zzo> | jbwiv: krap 2200+ xp too - so not that - i've got a geforce2 MX video card |
| 20:44 | <cdavis> | failed to bind port: 6543 |
| 20:44 | <jbwiv> | zzo: geforce2 mx as well ;-) |
| 20:44 | <tmk> | cdavis: sounds like it's already running |
| 20:44 | <tmk> | kill off other copies |
| 20:44 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: ps -efw | grep mythbackend |
| 20:44 | <zzo> | jbwiv: damnation that's a pickle |
| 20:45 | <cdavis> | hmmm... I guess so. it's also saying it's getting an error getting inputs for capturecard |
| 20:45 | <jbwiv> | zzo: I know. I can't for the life of me figure it out. I keep thinking: surely others wouldn't put up with this? |
| 20:45 | <cdavis> | yes, the backend is running. hmm. |
| 20:45 | <jbwiv> | I mean, if I stand back far enough, it's not *too* noticeable, I guess |
| 20:45 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: killall mythbackend; mythbackend; mythfrontend |
| 20:45 | <cdavis> | alright |
| 20:45 | <zzo> | jbwiv: yah my only complaint is output looks sorta faded but nothing like you're talking about. |
| 20:46 | <zzo> | jbwiv: you've the nvidia kernel modules & using 'nvidia' driver ja? |
| 20:46 | <jbwiv> | zzo: I tried to increase min quality on the mpeg but it completely enlarged the blocks. |
| 20:46 | <jbwiv> | zzo: yup. |
| 20:46 | <jbwiv> | zzo: gone through all that. |
| 20:46 | <zzo> | jbwiv: yah that's insane - not seeing anything like that at all |
| 20:46 | <jbwiv> | zzo: hell, I've got two WinTV go's here and an ATI TV Wonder. Might try to ebay them and get another PVR-250 ;-) |
| 20:47 | <tmk> | :) |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | i really can't see a difference between my pvr-250 and a wintv-radio w/ mpeg4 |
| 20:47 | <zzo> | jbwiv: i'm guessing it's not the capture card at this point |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | just the file sizes are bigger |
| 20:47 | <jbwiv> | Chutt: Really? |
| 20:47 | <jbwiv> | Chutt: i've got the WinTV go with radio as well. |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | no, i'm lying. |
| 20:47 | <jbwiv> | Chutt: I am at a complete loss. |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | what the hell do you think? |
| 20:47 | <tmk> | Chutt: did you know that make install strips the binaries? |
| 20:48 | <tmk> | i was wondering why gdb didn't have any debugging symbols |
| 20:48 | <tmk> | s/have/find |
| 20:49 | <jbwiv> | Chutt: ah, ok. I guess I'll take that as a vote for "big difference". |
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| 20:51 | <jbwiv> | Chutt: I've had so many others tell me the quality was just fine with the TV Wonder or WinTV Go, so I was surprised when I saw the quality of mine... |
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| 21:02 | <bbeattie> | it appears xvmc isn't a configure option, how does one enable/disable it, and where is the config to select 4:3 or 16:9 display? |
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| 21:06 | <tmk> | bbeattie: edit settings.pro |
| 21:10 | <bbeattie> | tmk: okay, that works for the xvmc question, but what about scaling for 16:9 so icons aren't oval? |
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| 21:12 | <tmk> | no idea |
| 21:16 | <tmk> | according to mythtv keys.txt |
| 21:16 | <tmk> | W toggles |
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| 21:24 | <cdavis> | I'm running the backend and frontend from the same comp, what could I use as a hostname for mysql? |
| 21:24 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: try localhost.... |
| 21:24 | <tmk> | or 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:25 | <cdavis> | jbwiv: it won't let me connect and I haven't set any paswds for mysql |
| 21:25 | <bbeattie> | tmk: W should toggle 4:3 vs 16:9? |
| 21:26 | <cdavis> | jbwiv: one more question, where is the settings file for myth? |
| 21:26 | <bbeattie> | it works for tv, but not the gui,.. hmm |
| 21:26 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: can't help you there. I'd check to docs. I'm a newbie too ;-) |
| 21:26 | <cdavis> | jbwiv: okay, thanks |
| 21:27 | <jbwiv> | cdavis: np. good luck ;-) |
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| 22:10 | <Chutt> | bbeattie, there isn't a 16:9 mode for the main UI |
| 22:18 | <Chutt> | hmm, corruption after coming back from a pause. weird. |
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| 22:38 | <abhishek> | can i just kill mythfilldb? |
| 22:39 | <hadees> | why would you? |
| 22:39 | <abhishek> | it's getting stuff for four days from now which i'd rather have it pull later |
| 22:39 | <abhishek> | *six |
| 22:39 | <hadees> | is this the first time you are running it? |
| 22:39 | <abhishek> | yeah |
| 22:40 | <hadees> | i would just let it go, it will be over soon it gets like a week ahead |
| 22:41 | <hadees> | if you were to kill it, it might mess up your tv listings |
| 22:41 | <abhishek> | soon? yeah i guess.. 823 seconds per page |
| 22:41 | <abhishek> | *day |
| 22:41 | <jbwiv> | abhishek: you can kill it. |
| 22:41 | <abhishek> | jbwiv: i can? cool |
| 22:41 | <jbwiv> | as long as you run it again soon ;-) |
| 22:41 | <abhishek> | yeah, tonight:) |
| 22:41 | <abhishek> | when i sleep |
| 22:41 | <jbwiv> | abhishek: I did the same thing... couldn't wait ;-) |
| 22:42 | <hadees> | whats the diffrence from running it in the background? |
| 22:42 | <abhishek> | then mythbackend and mythtv? |
| 22:42 | <jbwiv> | mythbackend and mythfrontend |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | i should rename the mythtv binary. |
| 22:43 | <thor_> | mtydontrunme |
| 22:47 | <abhishek> | hhmm |
| 22:47 | <abhishek> | i get a nice big black screen |
| 22:48 | <jbwiv> | abhishek: cards? |
| 22:48 | <Chutt> | you've got an error message on the console you ran mythbackend and/or mythfrontend from. |
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| 22:48 | <abhishek> | strange error flushing buffer ... |
| 22:48 | <abhishek> | from backend |
| 22:48 | <abhishek> | jbwiv: i set it up earlier |
| 22:49 | <jbwiv> | abhishek: yeah, I've had that buffer error as well. |
| 22:49 | <jbwiv> | Never quite figured out what it was... |
| 22:49 | <thor_> | it's nothing, a library error that isn't |
| 22:49 | <jbwiv> | went away. probably as a side effect of something else I changed. |
| 22:49 | <abhishek> | ? |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | let's load up our friendly neighborhood howto |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | section 19.23: What does "strange error flushing buffer" mean on my console? |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 22:50 | <abhishek> | sorry |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | naw, you didn't have time to look :p |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | there should be an error related to audio. |
| 22:51 | <abhishek> | audio volume set to '65535' |
| 22:51 | <abhishek> | strange error flushing buffer ... |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | and on the frontend? |
| 22:52 | <abhishek> | connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 |
| 22:52 | <abhishek> | and thats it |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | it very likely can't open the audio dsp |
| 22:54 | <abhishek> | mpg123 works fine... |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | mpg123 isn't recording and playing at the same time. |
| 22:54 | <abhishek> | well recording wont work for now anyway |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | hm? |
| 22:54 | <abhishek> | i dont have the little cable for my card |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | then it's not going to work. |
| 22:54 | <abhishek> | with the composite ins and audio out |
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| 22:55 | <abhishek> | why not? |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | because it requires audio to be working. |
| 22:56 | <abhishek> | i wanna know if my card works at all before i spend more time looking for that cable |
| 22:56 | <abhishek> | or getting a new one |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | use another app to test with, then. |
| 22:58 | <thor_> | this is generally helpful, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-19.html#ss19.11 |
| 23:00 | <abhishek> | :'( i cant get it going from xawtv either |
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| 23:01 | <thor_> | if OSS --> ALSA (and vice versa) |
| 23:02 | <moegreen> | Chutt: did I get booted from the Myth-dev list again? I haven't received anything for a while now |
| 23:09 | <abhishek> | so the comp i run frontend on just needs a monitor, keyboard, and speakers? no powerful hardware? |
| 23:18 | <moegreen> | abhishek: it needs a way to output video, audio and receive commands. So a monitor, keyboard, and speakers would work, so would a TV out card, IR receiver and an audio out patch cord |
| 23:19 | <moegreen> | It only needs enough CPU power to run the UI and decode the video |
| 23:19 | <abhishek> | cool |
| 23:20 | <abhishek> | it possible to set up rf remotes? |
| 23:21 | <moegreen> | I assume so, anything that works with LIRC |
| 23:21 | <abhishek> | hmm, lirc suppourting rf remotes doesnt sound logical |
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