| --- | Log | opened Thu Sep 11 00:00:31 2003 |
| --- | Day | changed Thu Sep 11 2003 |
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| 00:21 | <mechou> | howdy bbeattie |
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| 00:31 | <bbeattie> | mechou: hey |
| 00:33 | <mechou> | bbeattie, how's the pcHDTV and myth coming along? |
| 00:34 | <bbeattie> | .. it works partially, about the same as it always has. I've been very busy, so busy that pcHDTV is starting work on myth for it's futher support now. I'm a little frustrated with my htpc, two dvi cables both bad and both mail ordered. And I can't get abc hdtv. :-/ |
| 00:35 | <bbeattie> | .. just not a good time irl for me too. many complications. |
| 00:35 | <abhishek> | what do you need for hdtv? plain old antenna work or need a special one? |
| 00:36 | <mechou> | man, sorry to hear that....but really, isn't that why we got HTPC in the first place? |
| 00:36 | <mechou> | :) |
| 00:37 | <bbeattie> | :) I'm over 300 hours invested in this, if I had done extra contract work, which was possible, I could have bought some very nice AV equipment. All I have to show is basic hdtv for myth and a how-to to show what a pain it is,. ;) |
| 00:38 | <mechou> | abhishek, depends how far you live from the tansmitter towers. Regular antenna can work ok if you got strong signal |
| 00:38 | <bbeattie> | .. there's too much that needs to be addressed for hdtv in linux, program listing especially, that just isn't ready for common use yet. |
| 00:39 | <abhishek> | that linux hdtv tuner has gotta be the cheapest digital tuner in existance |
| 00:39 | <mechou> | bbeattie, I hear ya and feel that pain, man. |
| 00:39 | <bbeattie> | I'm resticted to using an antenna in a basement, 8 miles from two hdtv towers withen 10 degrees, I get 8/11 well at any time |
| 00:39 | <abhishek> | mechou: how many people broadcast hdtv stuff now? |
| 00:39 | <bbeattie> | depends on where you live, |
| 00:39 | <bbeattie> | www.antennaweb.org |
| 00:39 | <abhishek> | la, ca, us |
| 00:39 | <mechou> | well, PBS does almost everywhere... |
| 00:39 | <hadees> | YES, i am finaly getting my crazy expensive htpc case next week... costs so much but it is just so cool check it out http://www.atechfabrication.com/home_theater_computers.htm |
| 00:40 | <mechou> | hadees, I just dont know about spending $$$ on a case, no matter how nice it is.... |
| 00:41 | <hadees> | bbeattie: does htpc come through standard cable or just digital usally? |
| 00:41 | <mechou> | hadees, that case probably set you back $400, right? |
| 00:42 | <hadees> | mechou: i usally get the cheapest cases how ever when it comes to my entertainment system I don't want somting that looks crappy sitting next to high end stuff |
| 00:42 | <bbeattie> | I'm using rg6 cable, but rg58, rg59, and even thicknet network cable can work. all depends on what you have to run for cable length. |
| 00:43 | <mechou> | sheesh, you could have scavenged an old amp case off fleabay for <$100 |
| 00:43 | <hadees> | well one big thing about the case is how it handles heat |
| 00:43 | <hadees> | the case will be almost slient, not a whole lot of need for fans |
| 00:44 | <mechou> | old amps produces more heat than athlong XP...:) |
| 00:44 | <hadees> | yeah but if you just throw it in there the vents aren't in the right place and the air doesn't flow over the stuff right |
| 00:45 | <mechou> | yeah, u were just looking for an excuse to part with $400 :) |
| 00:46 | <hadees> | hehe, nah it was 3 reaons, heat, looks, and actully what i think might be the biggest i got it exaclty the way i wanted it, it was totaly custom |
| 00:47 | <hadees> | he pretty much would have done anything if it was possible |
| 00:48 | <hadees> | it is also i never really got into home theater stuff till htpcs |
| 00:49 | <hadees> | felt like since my friends spend big $$$ on recivers and speakers and what ever i would shell some out for a cool computer |
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| 00:49 | <hadees> | case |
| 00:49 | <mechou> | hadees, for $400 I'd want the outer case to be a heat sink, if you know what I'm talking 'bout |
| 00:49 | <mechou> | like those amps they put in cars.... |
| 00:51 | <hadees> | eh... probaly never goning to talk you into this being a good purchase for me but i am happy with it and i don't plan on ever buying another case for any htpc again |
| 00:52 | <hadees> | now all i need to do is add powermate support to mythtv |
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| 00:52 | <mechou> | I predict in a year or so all you'll see are small form factor pc for HTPC use. You're starting to see that already with shuttles, epia, etc.... |
| 00:53 | <hadees> | i don't think htpcs will ever get that big really, not custom ones anyway |
| 00:53 | <mechou> | eventually tuner will come integrated on the mobo... |
| 00:53 | <hadees> | things like tivos will be what most people use |
| 00:54 | <mechou> | and when that time comes you're going to look for another case.... |
| 00:54 | <hadees> | the playstation 2.5 is supposed to have media pc qualities |
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| 00:55 | <mechou> | whats a powermate? |
| 00:55 | <hadees> | mechou: for that stuff to happen build your own htpcs would have to go main stream, and nothing says they won't still have the same tuners and what not for normal sized pcs |
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| 00:55 | <hadees> | a powermate is device that looks like a volume controller |
| 00:55 | <phar0e> | =] MythTV rocks!! |
| 00:56 | <mechou> | and the purpose of the powermate is...? |
| 00:56 | <hadees> | input |
| 00:56 | <hadees> | you can make it do what ever you want |
| 00:57 | <mechou> | so it an input switcher of sorts, right? |
| 00:57 | <mechou> | for your htpc. |
| 00:57 | <hadees> | handle the volume, scroll, show somthign from its led, or you can push it and make a click |
| 00:57 | <hadees> | yeah but if you put it on right it resenables a volume knob on a reciever |
| 00:58 | <hadees> | the case i bought has a mount for it |
| 00:58 | <hadees> | as well as a mount for a irman and a lcd screen |
| 01:05 | <mechou> | playstation 2.5, haven't heard 'bout that one.... |
| 01:07 | <hadees> | it is what sony plans on releasing, it will play playstation 2 games but use some of the tech that they are making for the playstation 3 |
| 01:08 | <hadees> | from what i heard it will kind of tivo like |
| 01:08 | <hadees> | just all going towards what sony wants the playstation to be |
| 01:08 | <hadees> | which is the center of the entertaiment center |
| 01:09 | <mechou> | I assume by that time it will have a hdtv receiver? |
| 01:09 | <mechou> | playstation 2.5, that is? |
| 01:10 | <mechou> | massive hard drive too to store all those transport streams.... |
| 01:10 | <hadees> | i am not sure on the specifics |
| 01:11 | <mechou> | It would be cool if it had that. But I was really disappoined with ps2 dvd picture quality..... |
| 01:11 | <hadees> | well they hurried it out |
| 01:11 | <mechou> | enven with component cable.... |
| 01:11 | <hadees> | what they need is for nintendo to get back in the game so there is more competion |
| 01:12 | <hadees> | although i don't think that will happen, i think nintendo is going the way of sony becuase they don't seem to understand they need high capacity discs and fast processors |
| 01:12 | <hadees> | not the way of sony, i meant sega |
| 01:13 | <mechou> | well, sega and nintendo have differnt business model than sony and xbox.... |
| 01:14 | <mechou> | hard to say if that business model will remain successful.... |
| 01:15 | <hadees> | sony and xbox? |
| 01:15 | <mechou> | ps2 and xbox.... |
| 01:15 | <hadees> | unfortanly xbox will because bill gates will keep throwing money at it untill it works |
| 01:16 | <hadees> | and i think sony will win out if they just make thier next game system better than the xbox |
| 01:16 | <hadees> | xbox also (unfortantly because i hate micro$oft) has the right idea by not reinventing the wheel |
| 01:17 | <hadees> | they use the good quality computer hardware that is still way ahead of game systems |
| 01:18 | <mechou> | seriously, though, the only game I really played (like) on ps2 is GT and that "mad clown" driving shooting game (name escapes me atm) |
| 01:18 | <mechou> | and I don't like any xbox titles.... |
| 01:18 | <hadees> | you a gamecube man? |
| 01:18 | <mechou> | no, never even touched a gc |
| 01:19 | <mechou> | not really a game console person at all, really.... |
| 01:19 | <hadees> | i have all 3 systems, i find that xbox has no real titles to themselves how ever the ones on all 3 systems are better on the xbox |
| 01:20 | <mechou> | what ar e your faves on the xbox? |
| 01:20 | <hadees> | well Halo is a great game, xbox got lucky with that one |
| 01:21 | <hadees> | Splinter cell is fun |
| 01:21 | <hadees> | so is unreal |
| 01:21 | <mechou> | FPS are a dime a dozen, don't you think? FPS I prefer playing on PC myself. |
| 01:21 | <mechou> | better control... |
| 01:21 | <hadees> | FPS are a dime a dozen how ever good ones are rare |
| 01:22 | <phar0e> | BF1942!! |
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| 01:22 | <hadees> | i actully think i get better controls with the xbox controler i feel i can move my head and body more together |
| 01:22 | <mechou> | I'm still playing RTCW on my pc since its initial release.... |
| 01:22 | <hadees> | i am going to get an xbox controller converter for my computer |
| 01:23 | <mechou> | ratshack sells them... |
| 01:23 | <hadees> | the one thing that playstation 2 has over all the systems though is FF and GTA |
| 01:24 | <mechou> | FF? |
| 01:24 | <hadees> | final fantasy |
| 01:25 | <mechou> | ok..I found GTA "unresponsive." Physics modeling was a bit "funky" |
| 01:26 | <hadees> | well if you were looking for real physics you should get a flight sim, GTA is just a fun game |
| 01:26 | <hadees> | and GTA Vice City is amazing |
| 01:26 | <hadees> | the music and the story are great |
| 01:27 | <mechou> | GTA I played on the PC. I think you had more detail.... |
| 01:27 | <hadees> | and i think the controlls could have been better but really this is the first time GTA was in that mode the first two games were over head |
| 01:27 | <hadees> | well like in Vice City they fixed stuff |
| 01:28 | <hadees> | from GTA3 |
| 01:28 | <hadees> | i don't know GTA will be the next mario |
| 01:28 | <hadees> | for the new gaming gen |
| 01:29 | <hadees> | the funny thing is i read on slashdot more 20 somthing women play video games then young boys |
| 01:29 | <mechou> | I got tired of GTA, but havent tired out on RTCW |
| 01:29 | <hadees> | RTCW? |
| 01:29 | <mechou> | castle wolfenstein. |
| 01:29 | <hadees> | oh, i just got that for the xbox |
| 01:29 | <hadees> | haven't played it much, been playing that new star wars game |
| 01:30 | <hadees> | for the xbox not galaxies |
| 01:30 | <mechou> | RTCW is all about network opponents... |
| 01:30 | <hadees> | i don't need another game like Ulitima online sucking away all my free time |
| 01:30 | <hadees> | on the xbox it is on live |
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| 01:31 | <hadees> | i like the live model better than the playstation one, live is cheap but you get more out of it |
| 01:31 | <hadees> | and |
| 01:31 | <hadees> | not but |
| 01:31 | <hadees> | anyway i need to go to bed i got class tomorrow |
| 01:31 | <hadees> | later |
| 01:31 | <mechou> | later |
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| 01:33 | <tmk> | chutt, you about? |
| 01:38 | <bline> | about what |
| 01:40 | <tmk> | sup bline |
| 01:40 | <bline> | hey tmk, hows the decoder coming? |
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| 01:40 | <bline> | err encoder |
| 01:41 | <bline> | I'll get one as soon as Isaac finishes adding support to myth |
| 01:42 | <activelow> | anyone ever use a digital cable box from time warner? |
| 01:47 | <tmk> | bline: it's in myth now :) |
| 01:47 | <tmk> | active: is it a motorola DCT2000 |
| 01:52 | <bline> | I saw a commit: Starting to get the pvr-350 decoder working. |
| 01:53 | <bline> | "Starting" |
| 01:53 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 01:53 | <tmk> | yeah it's not that great |
| 01:54 | <tmk> | but video sometimes comes out the tv-out |
| 01:57 | <bline> | sometimes heh |
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| 01:57 | <Chutt> | tmk, yo |
| 01:57 | <Chutt> | get it compiled/working? |
| 01:57 | <tmk> | i think it's sending data too infrequently |
| 01:57 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | when i play, it works great |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | but if i ff |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | it gets all jumpy |
| 01:58 | <Chutt> | same if it pauses |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | could be |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | also there was a bug in your gop offset code |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | i think |
| 01:58 | <Chutt> | try pausing, it goes all wonky afterwards |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | i patched it |
| 01:58 | <Chutt> | what'd you change? |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | lemme diff it |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | like 3 lines |
| 01:59 | <tmk> | you want it in email? |
| 01:59 | <Chutt> | or just paste it here |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | k |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | --- ./videoout_ivtv.cpp 2003-09-10 22:49:55.000000000 -0700 |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | +++ ../../../m2/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/videoout_ivtv.cpp 2003-09-10 15:10:07.000000000 -0700 |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | @@ -88,14 +88,13 @@ |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | perror("Cannot open ivtv video out device"); |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | else |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | { |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | - ivtv_cfg_start_decode sd; |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | - memset(&sd, 0, sizeof(sd)); |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | if (skipframes > 0) |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | { |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | - sd.gop_offset = skipframes; |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | - } |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | + ivtv_cfg_start_decode sd; |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | + memset(&sd, 0, sizeof(sd)); |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | - ioctl(videofd, IVTV_IOC_S_START_DECODE, &sd); |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | + ioctl(videofd, IVTV_IOC_S_START_DECODE, &sd); |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | + } |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | } |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | } |
| 02:01 | <Chutt> | where do you set the offset, then? |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | eh? |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | err i think i did that diff backwards |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | swap the +'s and -'s |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | oh, wait |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:02 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 02:02 | <tmk> | must have been dinnertime eh |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | yeah, not thinking |
| 02:02 | <activelow> | tmk: I'm not sure about the model #, I want to upgrade for this season of HBO, and want to make sure I can setup mythtv to change the channels |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | that's pretty damn obvious, heh |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | anyhow, where do you set the buffer size? |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | 128k or w/e |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | yeah, if i found it, you shoudl be ashamed :P |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | also, looking in my logs, i don't see any closes actually happening |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | ivtvdecoder, GetFrame() |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | are you sure it's closing all the way |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | far as i know |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | hm |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | might need to add a couple mutexes in there |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | shame on you, that's not 128k |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | thats 128000 bytes |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | bah, whatever |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | it matters! |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | i'm lazy |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | hehe me too |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | it does? |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | yeah cause it fills 32k buffers |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | if there's leftovers |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | the decoder should be buffering internally, no? |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | yeah, but it's less efficient |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | so, what, 131072? |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | yeah that looks right |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | i changed it already |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | i wanna try 65536 first |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | thats what i've been using |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | allright |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | lemme know what works best |
| 02:06 | <tmk> | can you add those mutex's then? |
| 02:06 | <tmk> | could be printk's overflowing one another |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | i'm adding a mutex lock 'round the decoder calls right now |
| 02:06 | <tmk> | k cool |
| 02:06 | <tmk> | i'll wait on your commit |
| 02:07 | <tmk> | it'd be nice to have some errors.. i had an old version of the driver loaded (ie non video16) and it started displaying to my monitor |
| 02:07 | <tmk> | which i found strange ;) |
| 02:08 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:08 | <tmk> | good job failing to software mode though |
| 02:08 | <tmk> | i was impressed at least |
| 02:08 | <Chutt> | has to, else the previews don't work |
| 02:09 | <tmk> | perhaps make it return false on candecode() if the video size is < 100x100 or something |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | naw, no need |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | it already knows |
| 02:09 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 02:09 | <tmk> | hows that commit comin'? |
| 02:10 | <tmk> | what editor do you use if i may ask? |
| 02:10 | <Chutt> | apparently, i broke something |
| 02:10 | <Chutt> | vim |
| 02:10 | <tmk> | me too |
| 02:11 | <tmk> | crazy germans taking over my mailing-list heh |
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| 02:11 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:11 | <tmk> | i think i inadvertently referred them to yours also |
| 02:11 | <tmk> | sorry bout that |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | sallright |
| 02:12 | <tmk> | i was just trying to get rid of them |
| 02:12 | <knight-> | heh |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | it's gone all black&white on me again |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | earlier tonight |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | and, yeah, just reloading saa7127 fixed it |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | something's broken.. |
| 02:14 | <tmk> | :< |
| 02:15 | <phar0e> | did mythweb2 get moved out of mythtv's CVS repository? |
| 02:15 | <Chutt> | it's mythweb now. |
| 02:15 | <Chutt> | i sent an email to both lists about that. |
| 02:15 | <bline> | there was a post about that to the list |
| 02:15 | <phar0e> | oh |
| 02:15 | <Chutt> | 'Small CVS changes.' |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | still seems to stop a lot. |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | hm |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | especially after seeking/pausing |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | jittyer |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | or stop |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | both |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | hrm |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | 128k still |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | outright stop, or break up |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | ? |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | i changed it to an actual 128k |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | k |
| 02:18 | <tmk> | lemme test something realquick |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | removed the locking, too =) |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | since it was blocking on that |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | i may open the videodev twice |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | one to do ioctls on, one to write to |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | will that work? |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | which ioctls |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | the framesync one |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | the start_Dec and stop_dec ones it doesn't matter |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | what''s framesync do? |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | i don't think we need that |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | IOC_FRAMESYNC |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | must be one of matt's |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | don't need it |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | doesn't it get the frame #/pts of what's playing? |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | i need to know where in the stream we are |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | hm |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | didn't i write one for that? |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | and the play/pause ioctls |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | heh |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | i copied his code |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | basically |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | writing to the device is happening in one thread |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | play/pause and that framesync are in another |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | writing to the device blocks, so i _know_ it's calling those other ioctls on the same fd |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | ah, should i use GET_TIMING, then? |
| 02:23 | <tmk> | hold on a sec |
| 02:23 | <tmk> | i'm seeing how his code works |
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| 02:24 | <tmk> | yeah use get_timing |
| 02:24 | <tmk> | i think the vsync might be causing teh freezes actually |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | now i'm not getting video at all |
| 02:27 | <tmk> | with get_timing? |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | what's it returning? |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 02:29 | <Chutt> | 'sec. |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | what's 'frame'' |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | is it a frame # |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | ie 1,2,3 etc |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | or some timing thing |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | i'm using the pts |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | to calculate the frame number, i guess |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | that''s silly |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | it gives you frame # |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | just doing what was in the original code |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | eyah |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | but, relative to what? |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | even get_timing gives you frame # |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | if i seek, close + open it |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | to start of decode |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | what's the frame number there? |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | relaltive to start of decode |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | 0? |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | yeah, i'd have to calculate it |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | ya |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | pts is in teh stream already i suppose |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | i was going to do that, but this was how the stuff was in that patch |
| 02:33 | <tmk> | well i spose it doesn't matter |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | well |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | the pts doesn't give the frame number |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | so it'd be better to calculate it |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | pts doesn't always start at 0 |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | but, anyway |
| 02:34 | <Chutt> | i'm going to have to look at this later |
| 02:34 | <Chutt> | tired |
| 02:34 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 02:34 | <tmk> | i'll play iwth it some too |
| 02:35 | <tmk> | did you commit anything yet |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | using GET_TIMING seems to make it all jerky |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | naw, gimme a sec and i'll put what i've got in there |
| 02:35 | <tmk> | k |
| 02:35 | <tmk> | well framesync may not be needed at all |
| 02:35 | <tmk> | or it may be called too frequently |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | well |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | i need to know when it's displaying frames |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | i did add a usleep in there, so it _should_ only be getting called once per frame |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | but does it need to be updated every frame? |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | that seems excessive |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | 'specially for edit mode. |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | hrm |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | need to know exactly where we are |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | i just committed stuff |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | yah i'll play with it |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | left it using FRAMESYNC |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | k |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | but i fixed that bug you pointed out |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | :) |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | and changed it to 128k |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | k |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | i think the problem will end up being that framesync blocks |
| 02:39 | <tmk> | and the decoder may not have enough free buffers to handle a long block |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | switch it to the GET_TIMING real quick, you'll see it go wrong =) |
| 02:39 | <tmk> | :P |
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| 02:40 | <Chutt> | i expect a patch in my inbox by morning, now, so chop-chop |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | i did add another fd variable to that class |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | let me know if i should make it use another fd to write to |
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| 02:42 | <tmk> | same fd |
| 02:42 | <tmk> | is preferable |
| 02:42 | <tmk> | but i'll try a diff one for framesync |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | but, writing the actual data |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | and stuff |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | blocks, right? |
| 02:42 | <tmk> | ya |
| 02:42 | <tmk> | so does framesync |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | so what happens if i come along in another thread and do an ioctl |
| 02:43 | <tmk> | depends on the ioctl |
| 02:43 | <Chutt> | while it's blocked for writing? |
| 02:43 | <tmk> | there's very little internal checking |
| 02:43 | <tmk> | all the decoder ioctls just set internal variables |
| 02:43 | <Chutt> | the play/pause/framesync calls are all currently in a different thread |
| 02:43 | <tmk> | that don't' affect decoding |
| 02:43 | <tmk> | so framesync and write are concurrent? |
| 02:43 | <Chutt> | from the write/close/open for seeking |
| 02:43 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:43 | <Chutt> | and so's play/pause, i imagine |
| 02:44 | <tmk> | we don't pause while ff'ding tho |
| 02:44 | <tmk> | right |
| 02:44 | <tmk> | i haven't tried the actual pause feature yet |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | hit p =) |
| 02:44 | <tmk> | go to bed |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 02:44 | <tmk> | :P |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | have fun |
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| 09:50 | <fr33> | isaac sometimes here? |
| 09:51 | <sfr> | fr33, sure just ask for Chutt |
| 09:52 | <fr33> | thnx |
| 09:53 | <fr33> | someone saw this technique : http://www.trimensiontech.com/ |
| 09:53 | <fr33> | looks very good! download the sample from there page |
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| 11:05 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, thanks for updating the docs |
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| 11:06 | <rkulagow> | no problem. "maybe it should be in the FAQ" |
| 11:10 | <rkulagow> | i can't believe it's taken this long to get the official recommended modules.conf for the pvr's. if the "new" one works, i'll update the HOWTO. |
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| 11:19 | <rkulagow> | hey, chutt. broken GDB issue again. if i were to open a bug for the Mandrake GDB because it keeps stopping for SIG32, what specific technical thing would I actually need to put in the bug so that the packager could say, "oh, yeah, ok, that makes sense"? |
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| 11:20 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 11:20 | <Chutt> | like, a log of it running |
| 11:20 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: how about "makes it impossible to debug programs which use pthreads"? |
| 11:20 | <Chutt> | that, too |
| 11:20 | <mdz_> | well, not impossible, I guess |
| 11:20 | <mdz_> | s/impossible/annoying/ |
| 11:20 | <rkulagow> | ah, ok, i figured it was some sort of compile option where they've used the wrong one or something. |
| 11:21 | <mdz_> | probably it's just old |
| 11:21 | <mdz_> | gdb used to suck like that everywhere |
| 11:21 | <rkulagow> | [mythtv@masterbackend mythtv]$ rpm -qa|grep gdb |
| 11:21 | <rkulagow> | gdb-5.3-25mdk |
| 11:21 | <rkulagow> | libgdbm2-1.8.0-24mdk |
| 11:21 | <rkulagow> | [mythtv@masterbackend mythtv]$ rpm -qa|grep gcc |
| 11:21 | <rkulagow> | gcc-cpp-3.3.1-2mdk |
| 11:21 | <rkulagow> | gcc-3.3.1-2mdk |
| 11:22 | <rkulagow> | let me check gnu for latest version and see if that's it. |
| 11:22 | <rkulagow> | brb |
| 11:23 | <rkulagow> | Version 5.3 (stable) released on 2002-12-16 |
| 11:24 | <rkulagow> | hrmm. seems like it's current. |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | well |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | if your libc was released much more recently than the gdb, that's a problem |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | mythbackend started segfaulting again when i do a make install |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | it hadn't for the longest time |
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| 12:20 | <_rkulagow> | damn. what was the URL of that real-time #mythtv IRC log? my session reset, and i lost scrollback about that GDB issue we were talking about. |
| 12:22 | <sfr> | http://greb.ods.org/ircstats/mythtv.html |
| 12:22 | <sfr> | better: http://greb.ods.org/cgi-bin/index.pl |
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| 12:24 | <_rkulagow> | thanks for the URL. |
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| 12:45 | <Chutt> | tmk, hi |
| 13:05 | <Morph> | morning. |
| 13:06 | <Chutt> | hey, ever get that decoder working? |
| 13:08 | <tmk> | did you get my email |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | tmk, yeah |
| 13:08 | <tmk> | myth takes like an hour to compile |
| 13:08 | <tmk> | so i went to bed |
| 13:09 | <tmk> | :) |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | yea yea |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | you probably didn't need to do a full recompile |
| 13:09 | <tmk> | i didn't |
| 13:09 | <tmk> | i just typed 'make' |
| 13:09 | <tmk> | i guess something got flipped that said it needed a full recompile |
| 13:09 | <Morph> | tmk: your "prize" has been shipped. |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 13:09 | <tmk> | Morph: excellent! |
| 13:10 | <Morph> | :) |
| 13:10 | <tmk> | i never got clarification: does it come with a case |
| 13:10 | <tmk> | or is it just the board |
| 13:10 | <Chutt> | tmk, so it should be very slightly faster than your existing machine, but it's still pretty damn slow |
| 13:10 | <Morph> | hmm. I think it might have been just the board. |
| 13:10 | <tmk> | hmm. perhaps i'll mount it on my wall somehow, or on the underside of one of my A/V shelves |
| 13:11 | <tmk> | Chutt: yeah, but does the mpeg decoder work? |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:11 | <tmk> | well enough i mean |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | but it takes an age to compile |
| 13:11 | <tmk> | no problem there |
| 13:11 | <tmk> | that's what daytime during work is for |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:11 | <tmk> | or nighttime during sleep |
| 13:11 | <tmk> | how is the tv-out on it? i have a feeling i'll prefer the pvr350 |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | you'll prefer the 350 |
| 13:12 | <tmk> | i thought as much |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | the tv-out's ok, though |
| 13:20 | <tmk> | grr why won't x-chat recognize ^U |
| 13:38 | <bline> | use irssi |
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| 13:48 | <sfr> | Chutt: don't tell me it's actually THAT easy? Only 1h ago did i remember streaminput.* which i had completely removed from my tree. Before i spent hours starring at the code trying to figure out how to do it. |
| 13:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:48 | <Chutt> | pretty much |
| 13:49 | | * sfr listens to HitzRadio.com - Best of the 80 's |
| 13:49 | <sfr> | AAARRRGHHHH |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | got it working, then? |
| 13:49 | <sfr> | took about 15 minutes now after remebering the streaminput. |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | got a quick patch? |
| 13:51 | <sfr> | BUT, i have no idea how the socket connection is handled in the decoder. |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | magic |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | it's really just inheritance |
| 13:51 | | * sfr believes that. |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | the decoder uses a QIODevice for all it's reading/seeking and stuff |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | a QFile is a QIODevice, and so is a QSocket |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | so they both look the same to the decoders |
| 13:52 | <sfr> | and QIODevice knows that seeking isn't working for a socket? |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:53 | <sfr> | think i need a good book/resource on qt programming. |
| 13:53 | <sfr> | doc.trolltech.com isn't much more than a refernce. |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | check out the top of vorbisdecoder.cpp |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | the oggseek() function, in particular |
| 13:54 | <sfr> | Chutt: ok, will do later on. |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | well, that's just how it knows it can't seek on it |
| 13:54 | <jkolb> | Eh? Can't seek oggs? |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | http streaming. |
| 13:55 | <jkolb> | Oh, that. |
| 13:55 | <sfr> | Chutt: So what you actually meant with new input method, was to create a new class based on streaminput? |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 13:55 | <sfr> | one per stream type? e.g. shoutcast, realaudio ... |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | well, one per url type |
| 13:55 | <sfr> | url/audio protocol, no? |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | well |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | http would be one |
| 13:56 | <sfr> | i mean. are there shoutcast streams sending ogg vorbis? |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | it's a similar format |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | and the http input should be able to do static files on a webserver, too |
| 13:57 | <sfr> | yes, but there must/should be a matching decoder, too. |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | well, the decoder should be separate from how it's getting the data |
| 13:58 | <sfr> | like a realaudio feed via rtsp |
| 13:58 | <Chutt> | so you'd need a realaudio decoder, and a rtsp input thingie |
| 13:58 | <sfr> | oh, sure. like it is now. |
| 13:59 | <sfr> | But one thing i haven't looked at yet: how to intercept the mp3 stream to filter the tags. is readyread called during streaming? |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | should be, yeah |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | i'm not exactly sure, myself |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | Chutt: i got another email from matt: he said he's going to look into the decoding-stops |
| 14:00 | <sfr> | i mean, whenever the decoder requests more data. |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | tmk, i think i've gotten most of it |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | bugs in his code =) |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | heh |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | i meant when the ivtv-driver stops decoding |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | well |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | does that sometimes to me |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | i've fixed things around a little, and it hasn't done it yet |
| 14:01 | <sfr> | so Chutt, you once worked for trolltech? or this Brad Hughes just contributed this code. |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | cool |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | what was the issue? other than mattbugs? :) |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | sfr, well, he didn't contribute it, i took it out of his mq3 program :p |
| 14:01 | <sfr> | Chutt: :)) |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | tmk, after an unpause, it was calling IOC_PLAY very, very often |
| 14:02 | <tmk> | i see |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | and that seemed to lock it occasionally |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | and the FRAMESYNC stuff would cause it to lock as well |
| 14:02 | <sfr> | Chutt: before sending a patch, i'll create a proper shoutstream class, clean it up, and add support for the pls playlists. |
| 14:02 | <tmk> | well this does it for me on normal dd if=blah.mpg of=/dev/video16 |
| 14:03 | <tmk> | well i'm glad you're on top of it |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | sfr, ok, that's up to you |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | i don't mind applying smaller patches, though |
| 14:03 | <tmk> | i guess our balance of favors is now even, or perhaps in your favor ;) |
| 14:04 | <sfr> | Chutt: but you sure wouldn't like to listen to 80's rock all the time, cause it's hardcoded now. |
| 14:04 | <tmk> | infact, i'm quite sure i owe you one now :/ (thanks morph ;) |
| 14:04 | <Morph> | heh |
| 14:05 | <tmk> | looking at via's site: - VIA FliteDeck? Luxurious Utility |
| 14:05 | <tmk> | wth does that mean |
| 14:07 | <Morph> | isnt that their tool to boot up quickly and play a DVD? |
| 14:09 | <tmk> | dunno |
| 14:09 | <tmk> | seems strange to call it 'luxurious' |
| 14:10 | <Morph> | heh. no one truly understands everything that VIA does. |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | tmk, hey |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | uhm, why am i getting 22763904 back from the GET_TIMING call's .frame member? |
| 14:17 | <Chutt> | for the very first frame decoded |
| 14:17 | <Chutt> | you're not initializing something =) |
| 14:22 | <tmk> | yeah seems so :< |
| 14:22 | <Chutt> | i'll work around it for now |
| 14:22 | <tmk> | i think the framesync api call migth be the right one |
| 14:23 | <tmk> | seems the same as get_timing |
| 14:23 | <tmk> | but better synced |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | i'm calling it in the same thread as the write() now |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | seems to work ok |
| 14:23 | <tmk> | which |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | i don't get updated every frame, but... |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | in WriteBuffer() |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | the GET_TIMING |
| 14:23 | <tmk> | k |
| 14:24 | <tmk> | hmm i'm just passing along what the card sends in get_timing |
| 14:25 | <tmk> | are you checking for negative retval? the api call might be failign |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | i am |
| 14:25 | <tmk> | hrm |
| 14:26 | <tmk> | but it works on subsequent calls right |
| 14:26 | <Chutt> | yeah, once it's started decoding |
| 14:27 | <tmk> | perhaps i need to put a wait in until it's sent some data |
| 14:28 | <tmk> | oh also, not sure what this means, but it seems like the stream isn't closing down properly with mythtv |
| 14:28 | <tmk> | even when watching video |
| 14:28 | <tmk> | err wait, i may have ^C'd mythfrontend |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | i just made it reset to blank |
| 14:29 | <tmk> | ? |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | after it's opened the device |
| 14:29 | <tmk> | ah |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | i'll be committing soon |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | this seems to work better, at least |
| 14:29 | <tmk> | cool |
| 14:29 | <tmk> | i'll probably start compiling it soon then ;) |
| 14:29 | <tmk> | if i want it done by dinnertime |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | make sure you remove the 'return false' at the top of CanDecode() |
| 14:31 | <tmk> | ya |
| 14:31 | <tmk> | i know 'bout that :) |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | it did just stop decoding |
| 14:34 | <tmk> | :/ |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | there, committed |
| 14:34 | <tmk> | i think it's due to sending dma's too frequently |
| 14:34 | <tmk> | thx |
| 14:34 | <tmk> | since it didn't do it before we switched to matt's algorithm |
| 14:34 | <tmk> | which sends 32k at a time |
| 14:34 | <tmk> | before we were doing 64k |
| 14:35 | <tmk> | your docs sure do get updated a lot |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | Chutt: would it make sense to wrap that 'return false;' in an #ifdef |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | so i can just edit settings.pro |
| 14:37 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 14:37 | <Chutt> | it's only temporary |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | ok |
| 14:37 | <Chutt> | i just need to get around to adding some setup options for it |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | and it's 'CanHandle' : |
| 14:37 | <tmk> | P |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | yeah, whatever |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | so, for the osd |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | can i bypass the ivtv-fb driver, or do i have to go through it? |
| 14:38 | <tmk> | i'd say bypass is fine |
| 14:38 | <tmk> | in fact, preferred |
| 14:39 | <Chutt> | ok, so, are there ioctls for that? |
| 14:39 | <tmk> | no i don't thinkso |
| 14:39 | <tmk> | also, i want to do direct memory writes for that |
| 14:39 | <tmk> | instead of dma |
| 14:39 | <tmk> | since i don't want to deal with the fact that only one dma at a time is allowed |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 14:40 | <tmk> | but that's transparent to you |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | well, i need a means to get at that memory |
| 14:40 | <tmk> | just be aware that it'll eat cpu |
| 14:40 | <tmk> | yeah there's an ioctl for that |
| 14:40 | <tmk> | but i think it's in the FB code |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:40 | <tmk> | i may move it |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | that's what i was just looking at :p |
| 14:40 | <tmk> | for now, just point the call at the fbdev |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | well |
| 14:41 | <tmk> | i need to rework that a bit given that it's in global alpha mode |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | i'm just looking through source |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | for now |
| 14:41 | <tmk> | aiite |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | seeing how that all works |
| 14:42 | <tmk> | anyone know of any cases that have ir headers |
| 14:42 | <tmk> | for mini-it |
| 14:42 | <tmk> | x |
| 14:42 | <tmk> | and a pci riser if they're flat |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | the -350 is about the same length as the motherboard |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | which causes problems in the tiny cases |
| 14:43 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 14:43 | <Chutt> | i' |
| 14:43 | <tmk> | ideally, i want a wide one |
| 14:43 | <Chutt> | i'm using a full-sized desktop case |
| 14:43 | <tmk> | short/wide |
| 14:43 | <tmk> | heh |
| 14:43 | <tmk> | well i want to put it on my a/v rack |
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| 14:46 | <Chutt> | my case is only slightly taller than the dvd player i have |
| 14:46 | <Chutt> | but i have a huge old dvd player |
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| 14:52 | <Chutt> | ahahahaha |
| 14:52 | <jkolb> | That's always a good clue to check -users. |
| 15:02 | <hadees_sleep> | i can run mythtv fine from just a window manager right?i don't need gnome or kde right? |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | of course |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | and if you don't use mythvideo or mythdvd, you don't even need a window manager |
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| 15:03 | <Morph> | Dont need a window manager?! Thats madness! how can it be done?! |
| 15:03 | | * Morph gets out of infomercial mode |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:04 | <hadees> | Chutt: well i want mythvideo and mythdvd, any suggestions on a window manager? what do most peole who set up myth like that use? |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | i run blackbox on my living room box |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | pretty lightweight |
| 15:05 | <hadees> | cool, thx for the info |
| 15:06 | <Morph> | openbox works well too.. |
| 15:06 | <jkolb> | Yeah, I think I'm using openbox. |
| 15:07 | <Morph> | using it with epist is handy.. |
| 15:09 | <jkolb> | I used to use epist, but I only use the box for myth, so I just launch it at startup now. |
| 15:10 | <Morph> | I found it handy when myth doesnt work for whatever reason and I need a terminal on the box :) |
| 15:10 | <jkolb> | Ah. That's sshd's job. |
| 15:11 | <Morph> | ssh doesnt work too well when you need to start myth front or backend by hand.. |
| 15:11 | <Morph> | well. frontend anyways. |
| 15:11 | <jkolb> | Why not? |
| 15:12 | <jkolb> | nohup mythfrontend > mythfrontend.log & |
| 15:13 | <Morph> | sure sure. run to next room and see if it started, run back and check the log. |
| 15:14 | <jkolb> | Oh. You don't have a laptop and 802.11. That's your own fault. |
| 15:14 | <jkolb> | Or just set up a series of mirrors. |
| 15:15 | <Morph> | are you just arguing this for a sake of arguing? :) |
| 15:15 | | * tmk watches myth compile |
| 15:15 | <tmk> | slowly |
| 15:16 | <tmk> | is the correct configure/make process this: |
| 15:16 | <jkolb> | I suppose. I really do have a laptop and 802.11 in my house, though. It's nice. |
| 15:16 | <tmk> | ./configure;qmake;make |
| 15:16 | <tmk> | make doesn't seem to work till i run qmake |
| 15:16 | <tmk> | but qmake doesn't do anything |
| 15:16 | <Morph> | as do I. |
| 15:16 | <Morph> | tmk: you have QTDIR defined? |
| 15:16 | <tmk> | perhaps |
| 15:16 | <tmk> | :) |
| 15:17 | <Morph> | heh. |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | qmake makes the Makefile |
| 15:17 | <tmk> | yeah i figured as much |
| 15:17 | <jkolb> | Morph: Then why are you running around between rooms? |
| 15:18 | <Morph> | jkolb: I usually dont. thats why I have a keyboard handy, if there are problems I hook the kyboard up, opena term. and test. |
| 15:19 | <Morph> | hrm. lag. |
| 15:21 | <tmk> | i run wires |
| 15:21 | <tmk> | fast ethernet is good ethernet |
| 15:22 | <jkolb> | I have both. Jacks in every room, and 802.11 for the laptops. |
| 15:23 | <jkolb> | I even ran 5e in case I ever buy a gig-e switch. |
| 15:25 | <tmk> | heh |
| 15:28 | <_rkulagow> | chutt / mdz: i'm going to enter a bug for gdb for Mandrake cooker because of the SIG32 events that we mentioned earlier. IIRC, there's also instances where gdb doesn't have the full stack so that the bt isn't complete. am i remembering correctly? |
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| 15:37 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i think so |
| 15:38 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: can you please sync docs? |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | i was just about to =) |
| 15:41 | <_rkulagow> | i wish i had a testcase for the Mandrake people so they can see what it is exactly that i'm talking about. |
| 15:46 | <mecraw> | should the ChannelInfo know what videosource it comes from? |
| 15:48 | <mecraw> | i have 2 videosources, when i go to the epg and select to view a channel that isn't on the currently playing source it doesn't do anything |
| 15:48 | <mecraw> | it just returns to the currently playing channel |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | yeah, you can't switch cards/sources like that |
| 15:49 | <mecraw> | i'd like to, any suggestions on what to change? |
| 15:49 | <mecraw> | i could try to look up the source by channel string |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | well, switching capture cards in live-tv mode would be difficult |
| 15:50 | <mecraw> | or i could also put the sourceid in the channel info |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | if it were only inputs on a single card, that shouldn't be too difficult |
| 15:50 | <mecraw> | actually i'm just using 2 sources on my pvr250 |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | just have to look up which input to change to |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | and, then, well, change to it =) |
| 15:52 | <mecraw> | i'll give it a shot, i think the best solution is to add to the ChannelInfo class |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | probably, yeah |
| 15:52 | <mecraw> | why is it hard to change capture cards in live tv? |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | well |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | you've got the whole connection to the backend thing to change |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | the desired card has to be available, etc |
| 15:53 | <mecraw> | ah, ok, thanks |
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| 15:56 | <chimaera> | hi.. |
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| 15:58 | <deflux-> | Hrm |
| 15:58 | <deflux-> | I keep getting IO BOUND- blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write(), then eventually the frontend freezes. |
| 15:58 | <deflux-> | Anyone run into this issue? |
| 15:58 | <chimaera> | when i try to fill my database or run the cronjob, i get a message that qpixmap can't be created and nothing else happens.. |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | deflux, it means that it can't write to your disk fast enough. |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | chimaera, that's not a fatal error message. |
| 16:01 | <deflux-> | :/ |
| 16:01 | <deflux-> | Anyway to have a larger buffer or something? |
| 16:01 | <deflux-> | It's on a DMA100 controller. o,o |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | it's got a fairly large buffer already |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | make sure dma's turned on. |
| 16:01 | <deflux-> | It is. o,o |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | don't know what to tell you, then. |
| 16:02 | <deflux-> | hrm |
| 16:02 | <deflux-> | Crazyness. |
| 16:03 | <chimaera> | Chutt: so nothing to worry about.. |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | there's something else wrong, i'd say. |
| 16:07 | <chimaera> | ;-7 |
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| 16:13 | <thor_> | Chutt, well put |
| 16:13 | <_rkulagow> | chutt / mdz: if you have a second, can you take a quick look at the response i got to the gdb issue? http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5568 |
| 16:18 | <tmk> | oh my! can it be? myth finished compiling |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, if it's not dealing with the SIG32s, that means it's not dealing with threads properly |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | it should be handling those internally |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | since it does need to do stuff when it gets them |
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| 16:21 | <_rkulagow> | so the nostop commands are a workaround to something that shouldn't be broken in the first place? (if i'm getting the gist of it) |
| 16:21 | <Chutt> | right |
| 16:22 | <Chutt> | the nostop commands are _probably_ causing it to mess up even more |
| 16:22 | <_rkulagow> | ok. i'm going to look for the GDB readme and see if there's some sort of compile / config flag that should be flipped. |
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| 17:11 | <sfr> | suppose i have a pvr350. Now if i add a dvb (t, c or s type) card, could the dvb-stream (mpeg2 afaik) be directly handled by the pvr350 mpeg-decoder logic? |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | it really depends on how picky the decoder is |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | i haven't tried to play anything but the files it produces through it |
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| 17:13 | <sfr> | Aha, so producer #1 mpeg2 ~= producer #2 mpeg2? |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:13 | <sfr> | :( sucks |
| 17:14 | <sfr> | what is the difference in cpu-load with/without using the pvr- mpeg decoder? |
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| 17:21 | <Chutt> | with the decoder, it basically uses just a tiny amount of cpu |
| 17:21 | <Chutt> | for playback |
| 17:22 | <sfr> | so it would be a noticable difference, say on a 2x850MHz machine. |
| 17:23 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 17:25 | <sfr> | And just a clarification: the decoder output is NOT usable as a regular display, only programs like mplayer, myth and so on can make use of it? |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | that's not true |
| 17:26 | <sfr> | i can use this output as a X display? |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:27 | <sfr> | Xvmc? |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 17:28 | <sfr> | and that applies to both pvr types? they become more and more interesting.. |
| 17:29 | <sfr> | ok, not to bother you any longer. Should i search the ivtv site/ml for more? |
| 17:30 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:30 | <Chutt> | or ask tmk when he comes back |
| 17:30 | <choenig> | sfr: aren't you talking about the output only? the pvr 350 doesn't have a decoder or did I miss smth? |
| 17:31 | <Morph> | the pvr350 has a decoder. |
| 17:31 | <sfr> | choenig: yes. i think both cards have a h/w decoder. the pvr350 only adds the radio iirc. |
| 17:32 | <choenig> | oh, I ment the 250 has no decoder |
| 17:32 | <Morph> | the 250 doesnt have a decoder. |
| 17:32 | <thor_> | some 250's do have a decoder |
| 17:32 | <choenig> | just a typo :) |
| 17:32 | <thor_> | just no video out |
| 17:32 | <Morph> | really? Hmm..hadnt heard that. |
| 17:33 | <thor_> | ivtv faq, 2 revs of 250 |
| 17:33 | <sfr> | thor_: you got me confused now. So i connect the tv to the pvr350' decoder output. And i can use this output also as a X display? |
| 17:34 | <choenig> | hmm, sfr, I thought that's what you meant above ;) |
| 17:34 | <thor_> | according to Chutt (who understands these things), the 350 can present itself as a framebuffer ... onto wich you could run X .... but I only have a slim grasp of this |
| 17:35 | <sfr> | thor_: Yeah, thats we he also just told me. |
| 17:35 | <thor_> | ah, sorry, I just walked in |
| 17:35 | <sfr> | np |
| 17:36 | <sfr> | but i guess, only X cvs has support for the pvr350 fb. Chutt? |
| 17:36 | <Chutt> | doubt it |
| 17:36 | <Chutt> | it should just use the standard X fb driver |
| 17:37 | <sfr> | in this case, i think i'll get one. :) |
| 17:40 | <m0j0> | is there a chance that the 250v1 decoder will be useful in the future? |
| 17:41 | <Chutt> | a very slight chance |
| 17:42 | <sfr> | Hm, is PAL support being actively worked on? Or even working? |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | i don't know, sorry |
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| 17:45 | <sfr> | time to sleep, Good Night. |
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| 17:52 | <m0j0> | does it look like there will be advantages to using 350 decoder beyond lower cpu? |
| 17:52 | <Chutt> | better quality tv out |
| 17:52 | <thor_> | Chutt, you doing that mytDVD patch or you want me to ? |
| 17:52 | <Chutt> | the serialize one? |
| 17:52 | <Chutt> | figured you could =) |
| 17:53 | <thor_> | serialize I'm on top of, I meant the translation one (just posted) |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | ah, allright |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | if you want to apply it, you can, but i don't mind doing it |
| 17:54 | <thor_> | you go ahead, save me messing up my half finished serialize code |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 17:55 | <thor_> | not sure you should really be translating "ac3" and "dts" and stuff ... |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | probably not |
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| 18:01 | <tmk> | sfr: only the pvr-350 can decode currently |
| 18:02 | <tmk> | the 250 may have the chip, but it doesn't seem like it'll work as a general purpose decoder (ie decode to mem) |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | oh, of course he's gone now |
| 18:09 | <m0j0> | sfr is gone, but that bit of info was interesting to me. ;) i may have to invest in a 350 at some point since it doesn't look like my 250v1 decoder will be of much use. |
| 18:09 | <kja> | I see that on init of mpeg2 stuff in avformatdecoder keyframedist is initialized to either 12 or 15, is these the only possible values? (Sorry for bugging you all, but I don't have the specs...) |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | m0j0, i wish it were possible, but without some better research |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | i won't be able to |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | kja: nah it could be anything i guess |
| 18:11 | <tmk> | but 12 and 15 are standard |
| 18:12 | <tmk> | 2 gop's per second |
| 18:12 | <tmk> | pal and ntsc respectively |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | that's why it calculates it as well |
| 18:12 | <tmk> | i didn't realize that it calc'd. n33t |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | well |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | it tries to, at least = |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | er, =) |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | ah well, later |
| 18:13 | <kja> | Chutt, Yea I know that, the reason I ask is that most streams from dvb is either 12/15, but occationally theres somthing wrong in the stream, so it comes out lower |
| 18:14 | <kja> | wondering if a calculation every time is better... |
| 18:16 | <kja> | could be that I'm missing a pic_start on the boundary of the buffer though, I'll investigate further, thanks for the info |
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| 19:57 | <tmk> | Chutt: not sure if you used it, but select/poll works properly now for the encoder |
| 19:58 | <Chutt> | heh, cool |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | i just read() big chunks from it |
| 19:59 | <tmk> | k, i'm adding it to the decoder too |
| 19:59 | <tmk> | not sure if you care there either :) |
| 20:00 | <Chutt> | the decoder might be more interesting |
| 20:00 | <Chutt> | wouldn't block as long |
| 20:00 | <tmk> | ya |
| 20:00 | <tmk> | well it sleeps on the same waitq |
| 20:00 | <tmk> | i think |
| 20:01 | <tmk> | but you would only be guarenteed writing 32k without blocking in any event |
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| 20:06 | <tmk> | not sure the implications of blocking in mythtv |
| 20:06 | <Chutt> | doesn't matter in that thread |
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| 20:06 | <Chutt> | as long as it's not for _too_ long |
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| 20:15 | <tmk> | well, it has to xfer 1Mbps or so for full-size video |
| 20:15 | <tmk> | so it won't be waiting too long in any case |
| 20:18 | | * tmk goes home |
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| 20:22 | <kja> | Chutt, would you accept me making the 'setup' able to configure any backend and making it a bit more flexible with different cardtypes? |
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| 20:23 | <Chutt> | how are you going to probe cards on different backends? |
| 20:23 | | * kja is tired of waiting for someone to step up and do dvb-setup, so he's halting dvb backend coding, hehe :) |
| 20:23 | <kja> | hmmm, good question |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | if you can do that cleanly, then, sure |
| 20:24 | <kja> | only needs a small extension to the back-frontend protocol../me thinks |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | backend doesn't run without the cards defined |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | and doesn't allow you to change things without a restart |
| 20:29 | <kja> | what if I added a pre-configured state to it, i.e. if it's not configured it starts waiting for configuration probe, if it's configurated already and receives a reconfigure event it will restart itself by forking... |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:31 | <kja> | sounds just nasty? |
| 20:32 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | I thought it was changed recently to allow the backend to start even if cards weren't defined. instead of aborting it just doesn't start the scheduler, or am I thinking of something else. |
| 20:33 | <kja> | yea capt. /me thinks that too |
| 20:34 | <kja> | Chutt, anyways if you think that the restart if already configured potentially destroy things, it could wait until it's not doing anything |
| 20:35 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 20:35 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:36 | <kja> | and we get the advantage of not having to have X on backend (or am I missing sumthin, never configured a separate backend) |
| 20:36 | <Chutt> | you still need X on the backend |
| 20:36 | <Chutt> | since qt needs X in most instances |
| 20:37 | <Chutt> | and it's not difficult to export a display |
| 20:37 | <kja> | aha :) |
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| 20:39 | <kja> | so, really, remote config could be implemented as a call to backend to start setup on a remote display? |
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| 20:41 | <Chutt> | well |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | no |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | since that'd require logging in and stuff |
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| 20:42 | <poptix> | rawr |
| 20:42 | <poptix> | mythtv via 802.11g |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | works ok? |
| 20:43 | <poptix> | works great |
| 20:43 | <poptix> | even with my hardware mpeg-2 |
| 20:43 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 20:43 | <poptix> | i get around 22mbit _real_ throughput |
| 20:43 | <poptix> | mythtv is using an average of 9mbit |
| 20:44 | <poptix> | i'm in my car outside my 3rd floor apartment at the moment |
| 20:44 | <poptix> | still looking good =p |
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| 20:47 | <kja> | Chutt, anyway, i'm going to expand the card-config stuff, so I can figure out the remote stuff while i'm doing that... |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | hm |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | is there any real reason that the external channel changer script waits until the script's done? |
| 20:54 | <Chutt> | funky |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | ABC is all fucked up |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | it looks like they're getting a station that's being transmitted at a _really_ low bitrate |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | thought it was myth there for a second =) |
| 20:56 | <Chutt> | mdz, hey, are you there? |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | Chutt: yep |
| 20:58 | <Chutt> | so, is there any reason i can't get rid of the waitpid() in the external channel change bit? |
| 20:59 | <mdz> | I don't think so |
| 20:59 | <mdz> | I'll have a peek |
| 20:59 | <mdz> | I guess the only reason is to check whether it failed |
| 21:00 | <mdz> | (and to prevent it from being a zombie) |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | ah, true for that |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | but, what if i don't want to wait? =) |
| 21:01 | <mdz> | then you need to handle SIGCHLD |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | or, hell, just have the shell put it in the backgroun |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | d |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | slap a & on the end? |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | it is invoking the shell anyway |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | yeah |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | %1 %2 & |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | that way it'll be the shell's child, the shell will exit, and it'll be orphaned to init |
| 21:03 | <Chutt> | which'll reap it |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | the only failure case which really matters is when they've botched the configuration |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | in which case, the shell should complain to stderr |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | I think |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | i'll commit that, and if people bitch, i can revert it |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | sounds good |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | I agree that it should be more usable if it doesn't wait |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | channel changing's a tad faster with my current stuff |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | though waiting on the prebuffering is still the longest thing |
| 21:16 | <davipt> | "<poptix:#mythtv> mythtv via 802.11g" |
| 21:16 | <davipt> | hi |
| 21:16 | <davipt> | I've been using standard 802.11 (11MB) at 352x288 |
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| 21:17 | <davipt> | mdz: I've been updating mythtv for 0.12/cvs, do you want diffs for debian dirs ? |
| 21:17 | <mdz> | davipt: sure, ok |
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| 21:23 | <Chutt> | stuff's changed that much? |
| 21:26 | <mdz> | I have no idea |
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| 21:37 | <vektor> | Chutt: Do you ever set the V4L 'volume' control? |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 21:38 | <vektor> | I have this fun problem. On my card, any value other than 100% means mute. |
| 21:39 | <vektor> | But on some drivers, it seems it's an actual volume control, and 100% means really loud and clipping. |
| 21:39 | <vektor> | Not sure what to do about this. |
| 21:39 | <Chutt> | yeah, people have been asking about that |
| 21:39 | <Chutt> | for me as well |
| 21:39 | <vektor> | mplayer seems to set the volume to 0 on exit. |
| 21:39 | <vektor> | This is why the problem is annoying. |
| 21:40 | <vektor> | I can't have tvtime start and leave the volume at 0. |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | solution: don't run mplayer :-P |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | people insist on using it for some reason |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | well, i was averaging 800ms to do all the background work to change channels |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | now it's 300ms |
| 21:53 | <Chutt> | guess that's not too bad |
| 21:53 | <Chutt> | still takes awhile to buffer up enough data, though |
| 21:53 | <vektor> | Chutt: Is this V4L work or like back-end DB work and stuff? |
| 21:53 | <Chutt> | backend |
| 21:54 | <thor_> | assuming that's a time issue (data to arrive) rather than a cpu issue (assembly of data)? |
| 21:54 | <Chutt> | thor, yeah |
| 21:54 | <Chutt> | though, now i've broken things |
| 21:55 | <Chutt> | and all i get is a black screen =) |
| 21:55 | <thor_> | it's your audio .... |
| 21:55 | <thor_> | ha ha |
| 21:55 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:55 | <Chutt> | converted some stuff to use QWaitConditions |
| 21:55 | <Chutt> | i probably missed something in one of em |
| 21:57 | <mdz> | oh, nice |
| 21:58 | <hadees> | what player do you guys use if you don't use mplayer? xine? ogle? |
| 21:59 | <thor_> | player .... that would entail sitting in front of a tv and watching something .... don't have time for that |
| 21:59 | <thor_> | =) |
| 21:59 | <hadees> | to busy programing mythtv to use it eh? |
| 22:29 | <kja> | hmm, seeking backwards in livetv is a bit acward, it seem to hit the same seektable index multiple times... |
| 22:29 | | * kja is trying to figure out how the myth ui is workin.. |
| 22:32 | <kja> | and there is the occational 'freze', but usually seeking like crazy 'fixes' it :) |
| 22:33 | <mikegrb> | 2.6.0 is uber-responsive |
| 22:33 | <mikegrb> | :) |
| 22:38 | | * kja ..while watching mtv :) |
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| 22:41 | <mikegrb> | :) |
| 22:42 | <mikegrb> | ran 'updatedb' without nice'inh it, wouldn't try myth with that but I could browse and switch tabs etc as if updatedb wasn't running |
| 22:42 | <mikegrb> | that and all the hardware on my laptop is finally working |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | yeah, i want the docs updated by someone that spells like 'nessacary' |
| 22:45 | | * Chutt rips apart more code |
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| 22:52 | <kja> | sure, that 26' is very nice on hard tasks |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | evening boys |
| 22:56 | <tmk> | and girls if there are any |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | hey |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | so, the decoder code work for you? |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | trying now |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | did you update anymore? |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | not yet |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | k |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | hey did you see my note about the make install |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | and strip |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:58 | <tmk> | k |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | it doesn't strip here when compiled in debug mode |
| 23:00 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 23:00 | <tmk> | perhaps my cvs'ing reset my settings.pro |
| 23:00 | <tmk> | err yeah pretty sure it did |
| 23:00 | | * tmk withdraws comment |
| 23:00 | <tmk> | hmm. mythbackend exited with 'bus error' |
| 23:01 | <tmk> | (before now) |
| 23:01 | <tmk> | so what does the wife think of all this computing? my g/f is starting to get jealous :) |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | she's used to it |
| 23:02 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | pretty sure files are stripped here when in debug mode also. maybe it's because debug and release are both defined. |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, i comment out release mode when enabling debug mode |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | ah well, back later |
| 23:03 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | I'll test that. my binaries are stripped but I have the debug line uncommented in settings.pro. |
| 23:05 | <tmk> | chutt: seems real good |
| 23:10 | <tmk> | it stops decoding sometimes |
| 23:10 | <tmk> | but that's the driver's fault |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | tmk, did you wrap decoder call 0x05? |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | if i wanted to only decode one frame.. |
| 23:12 | <mdz> | I hate qmake; I wish it would leave me alone |
| 23:12 | <tmk> | checking |
| 23:12 | <tmk> | no not yet |
| 23:12 | <tmk> | but i plan to |
| 23:13 | <tmk> | this is quite nice |
| 23:13 | <tmk> | btw, good work :) |
| 23:13 | <tmk> | now if only emeril wasn't on tv... |
| 23:14 | <tmk> | oh chutt: one thing i did notice |
| 23:14 | <tmk> | channel changing doesn't seem to work |
| 23:14 | <tmk> | by # |
| 23:14 | <tmk> | up/down work |
| 23:14 | <tmk> | but i typed in '02' and nothing happened |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | huh |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | oh, it's probably waiting on the osd |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | and the osd isn't doing anything, so, doesn't work |
| 23:15 | <tmk> | k |
| 23:15 | <tmk> | well i have about 1.5 hrs to code |
| 23:15 | <tmk> | anything you really want done? |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | whatever you want, really |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | a way to get the osd address and size and stuff would be cool, then i could finish that off |
| 23:16 | <tmk> | k |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | if you're looking for something to do, of course :p |
| 23:18 | <tmk> | and you're using the GET_TIMING ioctl right |
| 23:19 | <Chutt> | right |
| 23:19 | <tmk> | k |
| 23:19 | <tmk> | how do you want to specify the fb? |
| 23:19 | <tmk> | i think it'd be best for myth to query the card somehow for which fb it's registered as |
| 23:19 | <tmk> | and then use the fb for the osd |
| 23:19 | <tmk> | don't you |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | however you want me to do it, i don't really mind |
| 23:20 | <tmk> | ok, i think that makes more sense.. keep functionality separate |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | all i need is a way to get a buffer to write to |
| 23:20 | <mikegrb> | vektor: I'm walking someone through install of tvtime...... on an xbox :) I don't know what his motivation is but oh well |
| 23:23 | <vektor> | mikegrb: Join #tvtime. |
| 23:24 | <Chutt> | man, i've broken lots of stuff tonight |
| 23:26 | <tmk> | chutt: the 'indent' program is great |
| 23:27 | <tmk> | cat ivtv-fb.c | indent -kr > new-ivtv-fb.c |
| 23:27 | <tmk> | and it's readable! |
| 23:31 | <moegreen> | Chutt: do those confirmation numbers for the -dev list work? I've never actually had it work for me, it always says it is invalid |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | they should work |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | i don't think snow-man is around |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | else i'd ask him |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | moegreen, what url are you going to to sign up? |
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| 23:35 | <moegreen> | Chutt: well, I got the email asking for confirmation that my account is valid. So I try clicking on the url (of course I've deleted the email), so I just go to the login url that it gives me and use my password |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | what host are you using, though? |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | snowman.net or mythtv.org? |
| 23:36 | <moegreen> | mail.untzuntz.com |
| 23:36 | <moegreen> | oh, umm... |
| 23:36 | <moegreen> | mythtv.org |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | ok, since snowman.net isn't hosting the lists anymore |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | anyway, i'll see if snowman can look at it when he's around tomorrow |
| 23:37 | <moegreen> | ok, whenever - not a big deal, just kinda strange that I can never get it to work |
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| 23:38 | <Chutt> | i can't do much on my own, he runs all that stuff =) |
| 23:40 | <moegreen> | heh, I got booted last time because the person running my mail server had subscribed to a spam blocker service that crashed so all my messages were rejected. |
| 23:40 | <moegreen> | having the two backup mx's doesn't matter much then |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | no, no it doesn't =) |
| 23:46 | <tmk> | ok chutt, so here's how i see this working |
| 23:46 | <tmk> | you request framebuffer_id from ivtv via an ioctl |
| 23:46 | <tmk> | it gives you an int |
| 23:46 | <tmk> | and then you do all ioctls to /dev/fb<id> |
| 23:46 | <tmk> | it'll return -1 if no framebuffer's installed |
| 23:47 | <kja> | Chutt, while we are on the list subject, would it be possible to do subject substitution on something like '([Rr][Ee][:])?([\[mythtv\]])?([Rr][Ee][:])\.*' ? |
| 23:47 | <kja> | I can see that the linux-dvb list does this, and it looks funcky |
| 23:48 | <hadees> | anyone in here use gentoo and mythtv? |
| 23:48 | <hadees> | i meant with |
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| 23:49 | <mikegrb> | hadees: what is your problem? I've used the two though I didn't use the ebuilds |
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| 23:56 | <Chutt> | tmk, so how does the framebuffer stuff work? :p |
| 23:56 | <hadees> | well the question is about ebuilds |
| 23:57 | <hadees> | specificly lirc, how do you configure it because ebuilds don't really stop do they? |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | tmk, just give me example code of how to get a pointer to a buffer to draw to, and i'll be happy =) |
| 23:57 | <tmk> | just an ioctl |
| 23:57 | <tmk> | i'll get to that in a sec |
| 23:57 | <tmk> | it's not written yet ;) |
| 23:58 | <mikegrb> | hadees: generally they install default config files for you that you have to edit afterwords as for compile time options, which I think you are more interested in the USE enviroment variable is used some lemme look at some stuff real quick... see if I can help you out a bit |
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