| --- | Log | opened Tue Sep 16 00:00:01 2003 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Sep 16 2003 |
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| 00:04 | <DJHaCK> | is there a way to start the backend with Video sources ? (just to get record+pause live tv feature) xmltv's server having problem |
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| 02:23 | <tmk> | you still up chutt? |
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| 02:27 | <bline> | hi tmk |
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| 07:30 | <knight-> | hey |
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| 11:47 | <o_cee> | kja: there? |
| 11:48 | <o_cee> | "Changes committed by bjm" who's that? thanks for those commits, i think my rebuffering problems are fixed now |
| 11:49 | <sfr> | o_cee: just compiling it. i'm hoping for the best. |
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| 11:52 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 11:52 | <o_cee> | will try it more later tonight |
| 11:52 | <o_cee> | but it seemed good |
| 11:53 | <dwmurphy> | what problems were those? |
| 11:54 | <o_cee> | dunno, but i got audio glitches and rebuffering messages |
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| 11:55 | <dwmurphy> | ew :( |
| 12:03 | <kja> | o_cee: here |
| 12:04 | <kja> | ups |
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| 12:50 | <hadees> | how well does mythvideo handle playing over nfs, i know it is just a front end but which player would be the best for playing over nfs |
| 12:52 | <steelep> | I had better luck with samba |
| 12:53 | <steelep> | nfs was fine with one frontend, but not 2 |
| 12:54 | <steelep> | probably was my setting, but samba has been rock steady |
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| 13:47 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: well, looks like the bug i opened on those SIG32's in gdb for mandrake actually got a response. turns out that it's the way they compiled glibc. is there a way to see if it's also fixed the "incomplete thread information" issue that's come up before? i haven't actually had a SEGFAULT in a long long time. |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | you can try to compile for debugging |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | then play something back |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | and hit ctl-c during that, and see if gdb has information on all the thrads |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | threads |
| 13:51 | <_rkulagow> | ok, i'll give that a try. |
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| 13:54 | <tmk> | guten morgen |
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| 14:13 | <davipt> | hi. something's wrong with mythtv site :( |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | really? |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | i hadn't noticed. |
| 14:14 | <davipt> | index.php returns an error and 302 |
| 14:14 | <davipt> | to itself |
| 14:15 | <Chutt> | stuff's being upgraded on the machine. |
| 14:15 | <davipt> | oh, ok |
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| 14:57 | <Snow-Man> | It should all be good now. |
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| 15:08 | <WD> | I've got a gdb session open with a mythfrontend segfault that I just posted to mythtv-dev. While I have it open, is there anything useful that can be extracted from it, aside from the backtrace that I posted? |
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| 17:05 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, hey |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | is the binary stripped? |
| 17:06 | <_rkulagow> | you mean that test case i emailed? i don't think so. make distcleaned and made sure that settings.pro had DEBUG then make installed. |
| 17:07 | <_rkulagow> | wait, you know what, i replaced glibc, but the "old" version may still be resident? |
| 17:10 | <tmk> | hey chutt, next time you feel like crashing your box, could you try something out for me? |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i dunno, but i'd make sure it wasn't stripped |
| 17:11 | <_rkulagow> | wait, are we talking about the myth binary, or the glibc? |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | the myth binary |
| 17:12 | <_rkulagow> | hrmm. is there anything in the standard myth way of doing things that would cause it to get stripped? because i know that i haven't been doing it manually. |
| 17:12 | <tmk> | make install seems to strip |
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| 17:13 | <Chutt> | depends on who made the qt libs |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | debian doesn't strip in debug mode |
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| 17:37 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: mandrake has a seperate glibc-debug version, but there doesn't seem to be any packaged "qt-debug". if i were to open another bug for qt, what's the quick version of what the issue is? |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, no, is the mythtv binary being stripped on installation |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | that's what i'm asking :p |
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| 17:54 | <_rkulagow> | hrmm: ####### Install |
| 17:54 | <_rkulagow> | install_target: |
| 17:54 | <_rkulagow> | @$(CHK_DIR_EXISTS) "$(INSTALL_ROOT)/usr/local/bin/" || $(MKDIR) "$(INSTALL_ROOT)/usr/local/bin/" |
| 17:54 | <_rkulagow> | -$(COPY) "$(QMAKE_TARGET)" "$(INSTALL_ROOT)/usr/local/bin/$(QMAKE_TARGET)" |
| 17:54 | <_rkulagow> | -strip "$(INSTALL_ROOT)/usr/local/bin/$(QMAKE_TARGET)" |
| 17:54 | <_rkulagow> | this is for mythfrontend. |
| 17:54 | <_rkulagow> | Makefile generated by qmake |
| 17:55 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: is that what you were talking about? |
| 17:56 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:56 | <_rkulagow> | ok, so that helps. but there's no man page for qmake on my box. in your opinion, are they taking a wrong default, or are they actually doing something broken? |
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| 17:59 | <Chutt> | well |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | qmake is probably broken |
| 18:00 | <Chutt> | and debian has patched it a little |
| 18:00 | <Chutt> | i don't know, though |
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| 18:17 | <mikegrb> | heh I did the same thing... make a short little playlist on my desktop so I would find it again |
| 18:17 | <mikegrb> | sorry |
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| 18:21 | <monkeyBox> | does anyone here have the Morex Cubid 3688 Mini-ITX case?? |
| 18:27 | <robbie> | hey im about to buy a pvr-250, are they about as good a card as i can get for this type of stuff ? |
| 18:27 | <robbie> | being its nearly $400 here in .au |
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| 18:52 | <tmk> | robbie: what are you planning on doing with it |
| 18:53 | <tmk> | what system specs also |
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| 18:57 | <robbie> | tmk:celeron 2200 1/2Gb ram, recording tv |
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| 19:05 | <WD> | I recently posted to mythtv-dev about a mythfrontend segfault. Does anybody know what the problem might be? Or is there any more information I can provide? |
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| 19:08 | <warlord> | Hiya. I've been setting up 0.11 on a new box and I've run into a few bugs. Anyone around who might be able to help? |
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| 19:10 | <WD> | warlord: ask |
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| 19:13 | <tmk> | robbie: do you want to archive shows or anything |
| 19:13 | <tmk> | or just record/watch |
| 19:16 | <warlord> | Ok, a couple of things. First, mythbackend seems to periodically crash. I'm on RH9. I can't run under gdb (if I try it will crash gdb as soon as I try to enter the EPG)... |
| 19:16 | <warlord> | [Thread 1209214656 (LWP 5344) exited] |
| 19:16 | <warlord> | Couldn't get registers: No such process. |
| 19:16 | <warlord> | (gdb) where |
| 19:16 | <warlord> | Cannot fetch general-purpose registers for thread 1175660736: generic error |
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| 19:17 | <warlord> | Problem #2: If I'm in the EPG and I page-up or page-down multiple times before it finishs redrawing, when I finally stop it will redraw the EPG incorrectly. |
| 19:17 | <warlord> | For example, I got the guide into a state where it was displaying channels 54, 49, 39, 57, 58, and 59 (cursor was on 58). |
| 19:18 | <warlord> | If I wait for the redraw to finish before hitting page-up or page-down again it doesn't seem to happen. |
| 19:18 | <warlord> | Bug #3: if the backend DOES crash, the frontend apparantely doesn't reconnect -- it just hangs. (or maybe I'm just not patient enough?) |
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| 19:19 | | * warlord is done kvetching now and is hoping for some insightful comments from you wonderful people :) |
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| 19:26 | <warlord> | WD: was that enough information? |
| 19:27 | <WD> | warlord: I'm not really the person to ask |
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| 19:27 | <WD> | in my experience, bad things happen when you try to do stuff too quickly with mythtv, though |
| 19:28 | <warlord> | WD: ahh, who is the right person? Or should I expect to wait a while. Also, is there a bug database to see what bugs others have found, or some appropriate way to report these kinds of things? |
| 19:29 | <warlord> | Yea, my wife noticed when she was alpha-testing my new unit ;) She crashed it about a half-dozen times in different ways. :( |
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| 19:30 | <WD> | warlord: Well, tmk is the mastermind behind mythtv. I asked a question here earlier and am still waiting to hear anything back |
| 19:30 | <WD> | If I change channels too fast, mythfrontend crashes |
| 19:30 | <warlord> | Yea, I've noticed that... but sometimes the backend does, too. |
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| 19:31 | <WD> | I've submitted a stack trace to mythtv-dev, so I guess all I can do at this point is wait... |
| 19:32 | <choenig> | WD: what is the 'mastermind' in you opinion? |
| 19:32 | <choenig> | s/you/your/ |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | wd eh? |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | i do ivtv |
| 19:32 | <WD> | warlord: Yeah, a bugzilla for mythtv would be cool |
| 19:32 | <WD> | Oh, Oops... heh |
| 19:32 | <WD> | I'm on both mailing lists, and must've gotten the two mixed up! :) |
| 19:33 | <warlord> | The ivtv part seems to be working really well (hi again, tmk ;) |
| 19:33 | <tmk> | :) |
| 19:34 | <WD> | Isaac is the MythTV guy. Not sure what handle he uses, or if he's online |
| 19:34 | <warlord> | Oh, another (user) question -- is there some documentation that explains all the different 'keypress' functions on each of the different main pages? I've come up with an experimental list but a comprehensive user guide would be useful. |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | he's chutt |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | keys.txt |
| 19:34 | <warlord> | ahh, well, hopefully Chutt will respond :) |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | in the mythtv dir |
| 19:34 | <warlord> | Aha! |
| 19:35 | <warlord> | Cool. Now if only there were an easy way to remap them, so the same keys on the remote could do different things on different "pages"... |
| 19:36 | <WD> | While there's chatter in here... is there anything more than a stack trace that would be helpful to troubleshooting a segfault? i.e., since I've got gdb open, is there anything else I can do to help? |
| 19:38 | <warlord> | uh, stack trace is about the best thing.. maybe print out a few variables.. not sure what chutt will need. |
| 19:40 | <warlord> | what version of gdb are you using? when I try to run the backend under gdb it crashes gdb. |
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| 19:41 | <WD> | warlord: gdb-5.3 under Gentoo |
| 19:41 | <WD> | I've not tried running mythbackend under gdb, though. Just mythfrontend |
| 19:41 | <warlord> | AHH.. ok. |
| 19:41 | <warlord> | I haven't tried the frontend. |
| 19:41 | <warlord> | Anyways, gotta run to dinner. Hopefully someone will respond while I'm gone. |
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| 19:43 | <tmk> | WD: usually it's the backend that crashes |
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| 19:43 | <WD> | tmk: With my fast-channel-change crasher, it's the frontend. Backend remains running just fine |
| 19:43 | <tmk> | ah |
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| 19:44 | <WD> | I wonder as a workaround if there's a way to have mythfrontend respawn if it terminates? |
| 19:44 | <Chutt> | or you could, you know, fix the bug as a workaround. |
| 19:44 | <Chutt> | instead of whining about it. |
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| 19:46 | <choenig> | btw, Chutt, did you have a look at my tiny patch? |
| 19:46 | <WD> | Yeah, I'll get right on that |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | choenig, yeah, i've got it in my local tree |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | i've been extremely busy recently, though, so i haven't checked anything in yet |
| 19:46 | <choenig> | Chutt: fine :-) |
| 19:47 | <schwin97> | I have some questions about the ringbuffer and was wondering if anyone would mind helping me with some answers |
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| 19:49 | <schwin97> | if you had 2 hours in the buffer, is it possible to grab what is in the buffer and write it out as if it were a 'normal' recording? |
| 19:50 | <Chutt> | no. |
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| 19:50 | <tmk> | Chutt: what does the 'toggle recording' button do in 'watching live tv' |
| 19:50 | <tmk> | start recording from 'now'? |
| 19:50 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 19:50 | <tmk> | oh :< |
| 19:50 | <schwin97> | I'm guessing that must be an issue with the structure of the ringbuffer |
| 19:50 | <tmk> | what if i just copied the .nuv file in /media/store/buffers |
| 19:51 | <Chutt> | tmk, if and only if you haven't ringed around |
| 19:51 | <tmk> | ah |
| 19:51 | <WD> | schwin97: What I do is: 1) mv <recodring.nuv> <output.nuv> 2) Exit from watching TV 3) Start watching again |
| 19:51 | <tmk> | if i haven't exceeded the length of my buffer size |
| 19:51 | <tmk> | gotcah |
| 19:51 | <Chutt> | exactly. |
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| 19:57 | <schwin97> | so what is it about ringing around that stops the ability to copy the information in the buffer to a file? |
| 19:57 | <Chutt> | the file header's no longer there? |
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| 19:58 | <schwin97> | that is what I was curious about... is the file header matched up with the information in the beginning of the file, or is it static with respect to any information in the buffer? |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | beginning of the file |
| 20:00 | <schwin97> | something tells me you have already gone down this road...? |
| 20:00 | <Chutt> | it could be done, but it's not trivial |
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| 20:00 | <Chutt> | and i don't see a need for it |
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| 20:01 | <schwin97> | understand... I was just thinking it would be interesting to be able to pull out video/audio from a recording (either from the buffer or not) |
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| 20:07 | <lmatter_work> | schwin97: There was a thread on the maillist a while ago |
| 20:08 | <lmatter_work> | Regarding watching a show for a few minutes, and deciding to record it. |
| 20:08 | <schwin97> | I will go search and see what everyone else found |
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| 20:08 | <lmatter_work> | would be nice if the ringbuffer was saved to the beginning of the recording. |
| 20:08 | <lmatter_work> | I'm guessing noone ever made a patch |
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| 20:37 | <hadees> | where is msp3400 in menuconfig? |
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| 20:47 | <knight-> | hi |
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| 20:52 | <WD> | Hey Chutt, can you think of any reason why NuppelvideoPlayer::Pause() should *not* wait for more than 1000 ? I tried increasing the value to 10000 and the mythfrontend crash disappeared for me |
| 20:54 | <WD> | It's just a guess, but it looks like if you attempt a rapid channel change, and if the time taken to pause the video to change channels takes more than one second, there will be a segmentation fault |
| 20:54 | <echo> | what's the best quality I can expect to get and not drop frames using mythtv on a 1.4Ghz t-bird? Which encoders should I use? RTJPEG or MPEG-4? What quality settings? |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | it should probably just print an error and retry it |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | which is what i was going to do |
| 20:56 | <Chutt> | make it like the other waits |
| 20:57 | <vektor> | Chutt: tvtime is finally in debian, btw. |
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| 20:58 | <WD> | Chutt: Would you like me to give a shot at a patch to have it do retries? |
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| 21:01 | <Chutt> | vektor, i saw |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | wd, naw, it's very minor |
| 21:01 | <vektor> | Chutt: Seems that mythtv still isn't :) |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | mythtv can't be. |
| 21:01 | <vektor> | Oh. |
| 21:01 | <vektor> | Why? |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | libavcodec |
| 21:01 | <vektor> | Bullshit, really? |
| 21:02 | <WD> | Chutt: Ok, cool. I'll give it a shot on my machine with retries to see how well it works. |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | unless you want to disable all the good encoding methods |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | wd, all you have to do is change the if to a while |
| 21:02 | <vektor> | Wow, I had no idea. I guess for the same reason lame isn't there. |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | that too |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | libmp3lame's also a dependency |
| 21:03 | <WD> | Chutt: Yup. That's what I've got. I wonder if there is any reason to limit the number of retries, though? |
| 21:03 | <Chutt> | wd, naw |
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| 21:05 | <echo> | hey, where does mythtv store it's transcoded files? |
| 21:06 | <echo> | in the recordings dir all I see are .nuv fils. |
| 21:06 | <echo> | er. files. |
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| 21:07 | <Chutt> | it makes new .nuv files. |
| 21:07 | <warlord> | Chutt: did you get the chance to read my bugs from about 1.5 hours ago? |
| 21:07 | <echo> | um... |
| 21:07 | <echo> | how would I convert that to .avi ? |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | use an external program. |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | warlord, not really, no. |
| 21:08 | <echo> | "MythTV doesn't use standard Nupplevideo files, which is why you MPlayer complains if you try to view them." |
| 21:08 | <echo> | teh suck. |
| 21:08 | <warlord> | Chutt: can you page back or shall I retype? |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | neither. |
| 21:09 | <warlord> | uhh.... |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | i'm really not interested in bug reports if they don't come with a backtrace. |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | or a patch fixing the issue, of course. |
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| 21:10 | <warlord> | note that bug != crash (in all cases) |
| 21:10 | <warlord> | you're not at all interested in a re-draw failure? |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | if you bothered to search the mailing list, you'd see that particular issue was already discussed |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | and that i can't reproduce it |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | and since i can't reproduce it, i can't fix it. |
| 21:11 | <warlord> | Yea, I know that feeling... |
| 21:11 | <warlord> | I'll search the mailing list to see what they said, but I can (mostly) reliably reproduce it... |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | start codin, then. =) |
| 21:12 | <warlord> | (by hiting page-up or page-down a few times in rapid succession and then stopping and waiting for the EPG to catch up) |
| 21:12 | <warlord> | :-P |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | there was a patch posted recently that changes how the program guide draws slightly |
| 21:13 | <warlord> | Well, there *IS* a crash in mythbackend which is hard to fix because whenever I try to run the backend under gdb, GDB crashes... |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | you could try that, or wait for me to get it committed to cvs. |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | that's because redhat shipped a distro without a working gdb for threaded programs |
| 21:14 | <warlord> | Heh. Yea Red Hat. Does the standard gdb work, or does it need some thread-safe patch? |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | it needs updated to the new threading system that redhat's using. |
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| 21:14 | <Chutt> | i'm not aware if that's been done yet. |
| 21:14 | <warlord> | OH. :( |
| 21:14 | <warlord> | So I'm SOL, then. |
| 21:14 | <warlord> | Damn |
| 21:14 | <warlord> | that makes life harder. |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | slightly :p |
| 21:15 | <kja> | hmm, my redhat9 gdb works fine.. |
| 21:15 | <warlord> | kja: have you tried running mythbackend under gdb? |
| 21:15 | <kja> | plenty |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | kja, heh, it doesn't work for anyone else |
| 21:16 | <kja> | they must be broken then :) |
| 21:16 | <warlord> | kja: are you using RH's gdb? |
| 21:16 | <warlord> | and how did you compile mythtv? |
| 21:16 | <warlord> | Chutt: I must say that in general I'm extremely impressed... |
| 21:16 | <warlord> | my wife, however, is annoyed that she was able to crash the system a half-dozen times in under 30 minutes. :( |
| 21:16 | <kja> | redhat9 gdb 5.3 standard, compiled myth with debuggin |
| 21:17 | <warlord> | kja: hmm, me too.. it dont work for me. |
| 21:17 | <kja> | strange..i'm using vanilla 2.4.22 though |
| 21:18 | <kja> | not rh kernels |
| 21:19 | <warlord> | AHHH... *THAT* is probably the difference. |
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| 21:20 | <kja> | try compile a vanilla kernel, and report back the results then? |
| 21:21 | <warlord> | kja: that would be a PITA, but I'll consider it. It would require me to build way too may additional drivers. |
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| 21:22 | <kja> | he, that should be simple...had to import the nforce2 ethernet (nvnet) into kernel to get nfsroot working |
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| 21:23 | <warlord> | Yea, I need to nforce2 ethernet as well ;) |
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| 21:25 | <warlord> | Hmm, there appears to have been a glibc-2.2.4 problem with Red Hat and debugging multi-threaded apps... But that doesn't seem to apply to RH9. |
| 21:25 | <kja> | would anyone know if a startcode in a mpeg2 ps pkt is allowed to span across two pkts? |
| 21:26 | <kja> | getting frequent drop by one compared to keyframedist in that seek fix patch |
| 21:26 | <jkolb> | kja: You mean can you have 00 00 in one packet and 01 b3 in the next? |
| 21:27 | <kja> | yup |
| 21:27 | <jkolb> | Yes, you can. |
| 21:27 | <kja> | k, thanks a lot jkolb, going to fix that now :) |
| 21:28 | <jkolb> | The PTS/DTS go in the packet that contains the first byte of the start code. |
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| 21:29 | <kja> | ok, need to have a look at how avformatdecoder handles that as well then. |
| 21:29 | <warlord> | Chutt: feature questions for you -- I'm interested in coding up two features and wanted to discuss UI with you. #1: adding "repeat" status to the EPG, and #2 is being able to record only non-repeat showings of a program. #1 looks like it would require some amount of rototilling the UI apis. What say you? |
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| 21:30 | <daralc> | what does this problem sound like: myth runs fine, when i go to watch tv changing channels is really really slow and almost unresponsive, pulling up the guide is real slow while watching tv |
| 21:30 | <daralc> | 1400mhz tbird, 512mb ddr |
| 21:30 | | * kja thinks linagee is having some connection trouble today |
| 21:30 | <daralc> | not sure if bttv tuner card can handle it or something? |
| 21:31 | <jkolb> | kja: Do you have a copy of the ISO docs for mpeg? |
| 21:31 | <kja> | no, i don't, why? |
| 21:32 | <jkolb> | It covers all of this. |
| 21:32 | <kja> | ahh, but have to pay for them, no? |
| 21:33 | <kja> | searched the iso site, but only pay-per-view :) |
| 21:33 | <jkolb> | I think there's a copy on the ivtv site or something. At least, I recall someone saying they'd provide a copy back when Kevin first started writing the driver. |
| 21:33 | <kja> | hmm, i'll have a look over there then |
| 21:37 | <jkolb> | Hm. One of the guys said he'd make them available, but didn't post them up. |
| 21:41 | <Chutt> | i have them somewhere |
| 21:41 | <jkolb> | I have them at work, but I'm not there. |
| 21:41 | <Chutt> | i probably won't be able to find em easily, though =) |
| 21:41 | <Chutt> | warlord, adding a (repeat) to the end of the description would be the easiest way to handle that |
| 21:42 | <jkolb> | Hm. Lemme see if I left my machine on at work. |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | the only problem is that the zap2it data doesn't always contain the repeat flag for everything that _is_ a repeat |
| 21:46 | <warlord> | Chutt: Well, I was debating whether to add it to the program name, or the program title in the upper-left window, or perhaps an (R) in the grid display and (Repeat) in the program info display... |
| 21:46 | <warlord> | Chutt: is http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2003-September/013989.html the EPG scroll patch you mentioned? |
| 21:46 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 21:47 | <warlord> | ok, I'll apply that to my 0.11 and see if it helps, ty. |
| 21:47 | <warlord> | Any opinion on the repeat ui placement? (I'd like to have a decent chance of actually getting a patch accepted ;) |
| 21:47 | <Chutt> | doesn't really matter to me |
| 21:48 | <Chutt> | i just never bothered to do anything with it since the source data wasn't reliable |
| 21:48 | <warlord> | ok. leaves a lot of leeway. :) |
| 21:48 | <warlord> | sure, but if the data is THERE it would be nice to use it.. |
| 21:48 | <daralc> | if the cable looks shitty, like kinda fuzzy, could it be the cable signal itself or the hardwre? |
| 21:48 | <warlord> | you may get false negatives but never a false positive |
| 21:48 | <warlord> | daralc: i would guess signal. |
| 21:49 | <warlord> | i've got a channel playing right now that's a bit fuzzy, but an hour ago a different channel was perfectly clear. |
| 21:50 | <daralc> | fucking on campus cable |
| 21:50 | <daralc> | suck a dick clemson |
| 21:52 | <daralc> | is there a way to reset my databases? |
| 21:52 | <kja> | yea, no more off-by-one keyframedist autod., at least for now :) |
| 21:52 | <jkolb> | kja: They're all there now. 11172 isn't OCRed, and it's just audio anyway, so you may not need it. |
| 21:53 | <daralc> | i got extra channels in program guide, like 3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7 |
| 21:53 | <daralc> | and i tried to DROP TABLE and recreate for videommetadata |
| 21:53 | <daralc> | but now it can't add in the shits to it right |
| 21:53 | <kja> | jkolb: on ivtv site? |
| 21:53 | <Chutt> | 'channel' is the proper table. |
| 21:53 | <jkolb> | kja: No, at the url I /msged to you. |
| 21:54 | <kja> | aha, thnx ... |
| 21:54 | <jkolb> | np |
| 21:56 | <warlord> | Chutt: FYI, the way I reproduce the EPG display problem: go to the EPG, press page-down about 5 times in succession, about two presses per second. Stop, and watch the guide (incorrectly) catch up. |
| 21:58 | <warlord> | (note page down, not down arrow) |
| 22:11 | <kja> | Chutt, have you looked at the patch i mailed you, or are you still extremly busy? :) |
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| 22:12 | <Chutt> | kja, very, very briefly |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | i want to get the profile stuff in cvs first |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | before i'd apply that setup patch |
| 22:13 | <jkolb> | Does linux have support for fibers? Made writing my parser really easy on 2k. |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | kja, so, how stable is your dvb patch #5? |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | like, can i commit that? |
| 22:14 | <kja> | mount everest stable :) |
| 22:14 | <kja> | want to get simple diseqc stuff in first |
| 22:15 | <kja> | but i guess i could do that in cvs too |
| 22:18 | <kja> | and i've done some changes/cleanups in my local tree |
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| 22:22 | <Chutt> | oh wow |
| 22:22 | <Chutt> | read -users |
| 22:23 | <warlord> | subject? |
| 22:23 | <Chutt> | most recent message. |
| 22:23 | <kja> | :) |
| 22:25 | <warlord> | "I hate when this happens?" |
| 22:25 | | * warlord reads the group via pipermail archive |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | 'Sound ok when functioning as PC' |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | pipermail archives by the local time on the machine when the message was sent |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | obviously doesn't work in more than one timezone. |
| 22:26 | <warlord> | Yea, it stores send-time as opposed to arrival time.. |
| 22:26 | <kja> | my sound wanders through the air from my pc to my amplifyer, doesn't yours? |
| 22:26 | <warlord> | but yea, WOW.. ;) |
| 22:27 | <warlord> | Now I dont feel so stupid asking my questions -- at least mine are (usually) well thought out (even if I havent drunk the code yet) |
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| 22:28 | <kja> | Chutt, should I send you a copy of my local dvb tree? |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | kja, not yet, no |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | i'm not going to be able to get started on the profile stuff until tomorrow |
| 22:29 | <kja> | i'll play some more then |
| 22:33 | | * warlord takes it that Chutt still can't reproduce the EPG redraw problem? |
| 22:34 | <Chutt> | yup. |
| 22:36 | <warlord> | what happens if you page-down 5 times in rapid succession? |
| 22:36 | <warlord> | for me, the channel numbers/names are wrong in a couple of entries.. |
| 22:36 | <warlord> | (I'm configured 6x4) |
| 22:38 | <Chutt> | everything's right. |
| 22:38 | <warlord> | :( |
| 22:38 | <kja> | works perfectly here too, so you better do some debugging |
| 22:38 | <warlord> | i presume you're running cvs and not 0.11? |
| 22:38 | <Chutt> | nothing's changed in cvs. |
| 22:38 | <Chutt> | in that area |
| 22:38 | <warlord> | *grr* |
| 22:38 | <Chutt> | you _should_ just try the patch i pointed out. |
| 22:38 | <warlord> | Yea, I will.. |
| 22:40 | <warlord> | but what it looks like is going on is that the EPG queues a redraw for the grid but the redraw doesn't finish before the grid "changes" again -- so when it catches up it flushes the redraws and the channel numbers are wrong (from the older redraw events). |
| 22:40 | <warlord> | Unfortunately I'm more of a gnome hacker than a qt hacker (never touched qt before) |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | prepare to be, well, amazed, then :p |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | the api actually makes sense |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | and <gasp> it's documented! |
| 22:40 | <warlord> | gtk+ makes sense to me. |
| 22:41 | <warlord> | and it's fairly well documented, too.. |
| 22:41 | <warlord> | (IMHO) |
| 22:41 | <warlord> | but this is not the place for this discussion. |
| 22:41 | | * warlord really isn't looking for a relgious argument, or even technical argument, on gnome v. qt |
| 22:43 | <warlord> | but -- i'll try that patch and see if it helps.. if not, well, i'll try some debugging of the frontend -- is that multithreaded, too? |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | at times it is, at times it isn't |
| 22:43 | <warlord> | so I should be able to debug it on RH9? |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | oh, no |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | everything threaded |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | the gui isn't always, though |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | which is what i meant |
| 22:44 | | * warlord sighs |
| 22:44 | <warlord> | how... frustrating. |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | your choice of distributions :p |
| 22:45 | <warlord> | hey, there was no warning! "WARNING: using RH9 means you wont be able to use gdb." |
| 22:45 | <tmk\soccer> | sup chutt |
| 22:45 | <tmk\soccer> | you still busy? |
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| 22:45 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:45 | <tmk> | k |
| 22:45 | | * thor_ wonders why s-video cables have all those pins in them |
| 22:45 | <Chutt> | working on something for real work |
| 22:45 | <tmk> | yeah i figured |
| 22:46 | <tmk> | bbl |
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| 22:51 | <warlord> | Aha.. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=98221 |
| 22:56 | <warlord> | Cool, that seems to fix the problem! :) |
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| 22:59 | <warlord> | now to cause the backend crash and try to track that down for ya... |
| 23:01 | <warlord> | Hmm, there appears to be a deadlock issue in mythfrontend. |
| 23:01 | <warlord> | Chutt: how would you like the gdb stack trace, and what other info can I provide? |
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| 23:20 | <warlord> | ok, stack trace sent to -dev |
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