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| 00:23 | <cbreen> | anyone here use dxr2 driver? |
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| 00:39 | <cesman> | hi hEximal |
| 00:40 | <hEximal> | hey cessy |
| 00:40 | -!- | warlord is now known as warlord-afk |
| 00:40 | <cesman> | just ces is fine |
| 00:40 | <hEximal> | heh |
| 00:41 | <cesman> | saw you message earlier... |
| 00:42 | <cesman> | sorry, I cannot make mdk RPMs |
| 00:42 | <hEximal> | i found some |
| 00:44 | <tmk> | chutt: does the seek function change any of the frame positional stuff |
| 00:44 | <tmk> | or does it just move the pointer like lseek |
| 00:44 | <hEximal> | ces: i think it was in the docs. |
| 00:44 | <hEximal> | the link that is |
| 00:45 | <cesman> | shows you how long it have been since I looked at them |
| 00:45 | <cesman> | or at least that part :) |
| 00:46 | <hEximal> | 11.2 |
| 00:49 | <cesman> | got everything setup? |
| 00:50 | <hEximal> | no |
| 00:50 | <hEximal> | not at all |
| 00:51 | <cesman> | doh! |
| 00:52 | <hEximal> | well |
| 00:52 | <hEximal> | i haven't started |
| 00:52 | <hEximal> | I was getting my nvidia stuff set up |
| 00:52 | <hEximal> | but that works |
| 00:52 | <cesman> | oh, ok |
| 00:53 | <cesman> | I'm testing my latest beta |
| 00:53 | <hEximal> | w/ ivtv ? |
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| 00:56 | <cesman> | yes, but I still need to resolve some issue w/ firmware |
| 00:57 | <cesman> | it will probably require inserting CD w/ drivers or wget |
| 00:57 | <hEximal> | oh yeah |
| 00:57 | <hEximal> | that's pesky |
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| 00:59 | | * tmk pokes chutt |
| 01:00 | <tmk> | looks like it's never finding the seek pos in the map |
| 01:01 | <cesman> | tmk:I emailed Anthony at shspvr, he stated including the firmware is a NO NO |
| 01:01 | <hEximal> | it hardly makes sense, can the firmware be used without the hardware? |
| 01:02 | <cbreen> | anyone had problems playing avi's with mplayer where they are all jumpy |
| 01:02 | <cesman> | true, but you know how companies are... |
| 01:02 | <cbreen> | while mpeg's play properly? |
| 01:02 | <cbreen> | using the dxr2 driver? |
| 01:02 | <cesman> | cbreen:no |
| 01:02 | <cesman> | cbreen:don't have dxr2 |
| 01:05 | <tmk> | ces: :< |
| 01:06 | <tmk> | but what about hauppauge drivers |
| 01:06 | <tmk> | surely they can permit that |
| 01:06 | <cesman> | tmk:I should get a response back from him on that tomorrow |
| 01:07 | <tmk> | cool |
| 01:08 | <cesman> | I ask how he got permission to redistribute and who I can ask at Hauppauge |
| 01:08 | <tmk> | from whom? |
| 01:09 | <cesman> | yeah |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | no, who got permission |
| 01:09 | <cesman> | Anthony at shspvr |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | ah |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | he's in good with hauppauge |
| 01:10 | <cesman> | he has the drivers for download |
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| 01:31 | <cesman> | Nyquil, will help you get some ZZZZZz |
| 01:31 | <cesman> | nite everyone |
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| 01:31 | <Chutt> | tmk, well, what's the map look like? |
| 01:31 | <Chutt> | is it actually missing where it wants to go? |
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| 01:44 | <Chutt> | i should remove that ban, but i'm really too lazy to do so |
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| 01:45 | <tmk> | hey chutt |
| 01:45 | <tmk> | so i'm at kind of a loss |
| 01:45 | <tmk> | i put a bunch of printf's in |
| 01:45 | <tmk> | and the seeking is fine within the "DoFastForward" function |
| 01:46 | <tmk> | but inbetween somehow 'framesPlayed' gets changed |
| 01:46 | <tmk> | drastically |
| 01:46 | <Chutt> | and that's what's wrong, i assume? |
| 01:46 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 01:46 | <tmk> | so now i have to track down everything that touches framesPlayed |
| 01:46 | <tmk> | :x |
| 01:46 | <tmk> | so far it's only on a ff, then ff again |
| 01:46 | <Chutt> | probably the result from videooutivtv::writebuffer() |
| 01:46 | <tmk> | that i've noticed it |
| 01:47 | <tmk> | but once it's done it once |
| 01:47 | <tmk> | it's fine |
| 01:47 | <Chutt> | remember how i was complaining about the frames position number being really wrong? |
| 01:47 | <Chutt> | maybe that's tripping it for you... |
| 01:47 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 01:47 | <tmk> | vaguely |
| 01:48 | <Chutt> | check out the very bottom of videoout_ivtv.cpp |
| 01:48 | <Chutt> | the comment there |
| 01:48 | <Chutt> | i dunno, something to look at |
| 01:48 | <tmk> | k |
| 01:49 | <tmk> | ahh |
| 01:49 | <tmk> | hm |
| 01:50 | <tmk> | on reopen .. getting the # of frames played |
| 01:50 | <tmk> | that could be it |
| 01:50 | | * tmk debugs |
| 01:50 | <tmk> | oh another bug i''ve run across |
| 01:50 | <tmk> | is that if that function returns error |
| 01:50 | <tmk> | then something keeps calling it over and over |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | what function? |
| 01:51 | <tmk> | so it just scrolls the screen with 'IVTV_IOC_FRAMESYNC |
| 01:51 | <tmk> | writetbuffer |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | well, it doesn't test, i don't think =) |
| 01:51 | <tmk> | perhaps it should! :P |
| 01:53 | <tmk> | i'll just make it return -1 |
| 01:53 | <tmk> | and check for that |
| 01:55 | <tmk> | hmm but what should it do |
| 01:55 | <tmk> | die? |
| 01:55 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 01:55 | <tmk> | i'll test it and see if it ever happens during decoding |
| 01:56 | <tmk> | or if it only fires afterwards |
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| 02:07 | <tmk> | chutt: uhm i think i found a fix for that problem |
| 02:07 | | * tmk duh |
| 02:07 | <tmk> | i wasn't doing what i thought i was in that ioctl |
| 02:07 | <tmk> | so hopefully i can make it a straight API call, and it'll not return wierd values anymore |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | but, that may not be the seeking problem =) |
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| 02:16 | <Chutt> | why exactly did some dumbass forward an email he sent to the list less than an hour ago to the list again? |
| 02:17 | <bline> | low IQ? |
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| 02:19 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | impatience |
| 02:19 | <o_cee> | hey, that's even worse than me ;) |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | tmk, someone answered it 5 minutes before he sent his forward |
| 02:20 | <bline> | NPD more likly |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | 7 minutes, rather |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:20 | <o_cee> | he even got an answer for it |
| 02:21 | | * o_cee is back (gone 08:32:42) |
| 02:24 | <o_cee> | our closest neighbour denmark lowers their tax on liquor today with 47%.. takes me 15 minutes to get there by car.. heheh :) (sweden got one of the highest taxes on liquor.. damn expensive here) |
| 02:25 | <Timon> | o_cee: whats a fifth of say schmernof (sp?) vodka go for in euro? |
| 02:25 | <o_cee> | a fifth? how much is that? |
| 02:25 | <Timon> | Sorry, 750 ml |
| 02:26 | <o_cee> | lemme see |
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| 02:29 | <o_cee> | one 700ml Smirnoff is 28.80$ or 24.77\x80... (in sweden) |
| 02:29 | <Timon> | what about in denmark? |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | probably about half that price now.. don't know exactly |
| 02:30 | <Timon> | Thats like $32 us, thats about $13-14 more than we pay. The state I live in has high taxes on booze. |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | ugh |
| 02:30 | <Timon> | Government manipulation through taxation. |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | Timon: oh so true. |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | just as i get ready to debug my decoder code |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | it starts recording |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | he |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | h |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | hehehe |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | :P |
| 02:31 | <o_cee> | Timon: the funny thing here, that i think we're alone about, is that liquor/beer/wine, everything, is sold in special government owned stores... |
| 02:31 | <Timon> | At least I'm not in new york, US$7 / pack if I recall correctly. |
| 02:32 | <Timon> | o_cee: Why do they do that? |
| 02:32 | <Timon> | Previous statement about packs is in regards to cigerettes |
| 02:32 | <o_cee> | oh. don't smoke, but that's expencive |
| 02:33 | <o_cee> | well, thats to protect their citizens.. |
| 02:33 | <Timon> | I don't smoke either, but I resent the taxation. |
| 02:33 | <Timon> | Or so they say. Its a way of generating revenue |
| 02:33 | <Timon> | If it was truely about protecting citizens, then they would ban them. . . |
| 02:34 | <o_cee> | yeah. good to have so close to denmark now.. :) |
| 02:34 | <Timon> | heh. Whats your poison o_cee? |
| 02:35 | <o_cee> | haha |
| 02:35 | <o_cee> | nothing special ;) |
| 02:35 | <Timon> | Canadian Club whiskey and ginger-ale is good. So is malibu rum and 7-up. Coors is good too! |
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| 02:36 | <o_cee> | whiskey and ginger-ale? gotta try that.. |
| 02:37 | <o_cee> | raspberry vodka is very nice, but it's empty now |
| 02:37 | <Timon> | Never tried it. Cranberry juice and vodka is good, real good :-) |
| 02:38 | <o_cee> | you're making me wanne drink :) it's 8:30am here dammit |
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| 02:38 | <Timon> | haha, 10:45pm here. Time for bed. Nite folks |
| 02:38 | <o_cee> | nite |
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| 02:45 | <Chutt> | oh wow |
| 02:45 | <Chutt> | he's sent it a third time to the list |
| 02:45 | <o_cee> | funny guy |
| 02:50 | <tmk> | i wonder if he's in here |
| 02:51 | <tmk> | right now |
| 02:51 | <tmk> | watching us get angry |
| 02:51 | <tmk> | heh |
| 02:51 | <tmk> | 9 minutes till it's done recording |
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| 02:52 | <tmk> | i think it angered the database though |
| 02:52 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:52 | <Chutt> | if i have to make an effort to manually unsubscribe the guy, then i'll get annoyed :p |
| 02:53 | <tmk> | 'can't insert positionmap into the database' |
| 02:53 | <tmk> | repeatedly |
| 02:53 | | * overridex clicks send, send, send |
| 02:53 | <overridex> | ;) |
| 02:53 | <overridex> | j/k :) |
| 02:53 | <tmk> | (not a verbatium quote) |
| 02:56 | <Chutt> | tmk, yeah, that's an angry database |
| 02:58 | <Chutt> | god damnit |
| 02:58 | <Chutt> | the fucking ignorant people on my mailing list piss me off |
| 03:04 | <tmk> | (i think he's annoyed now) |
| 03:05 | <hEximal> | at least they aren't in your irc channel |
| 03:05 | <overridex> | damn straight |
| 03:05 | <hEximal> | or are they? :o |
| 03:05 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 03:05 | <overridex> | now how do i setup mythtv on windows 95? |
| 03:05 | <overridex> | ;) |
| 03:05 | <overridex> | j/k :) |
| 03:05 | <hEximal> | i think I know |
| 03:05 | <Chutt> | this channel change thread just pisses me off |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | I HAVE THE BEST IDEA EVAR!@#!#@! |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | WHY DON"T YOU CHANGE THE CHANNEL QUICKER!@#!@# |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | THEN IT"D BE QUICKER!@#!@# |
| 03:06 | <overridex> | lol |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | no one's bothered to look at the code |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | not one single person |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | well, aside from bruce |
| 03:06 | <overridex> | not like it's opensource or anything |
| 03:10 | <hEximal> | well i'm still setting it up.. so i'll remain hush. |
| 03:11 | <hEximal> | I did want a teletubbies filter at some point |
| 03:13 | <hEximal> | holy crap, it works. |
| 03:15 | <tmk> | your teletubbies filter? |
| 03:16 | <Chutt> | tmk, so, get it working? =) |
| 03:18 | <hEximal> | no, mythtv itself |
| 03:18 | <tmk> | chutt: no, infact it killed the decoder |
| 03:18 | <tmk> | i put a sleep in so as not to hammer it |
| 03:18 | <hEximal> | this is great |
| 03:19 | <overridex> | has anyone successfully encoded a rtjpeg .nuv with mencoder to another format without having the weird green frames every so often? |
| 03:19 | <tmk> | chutt: do mythbackend and mythfrontend dependon any of the other 'programs' |
| 03:19 | <Chutt> | overridex, as the mplayer patch is extremely out of date, i doubt that |
| 03:19 | <tmk> | i'm thinkin about editing them out of the Makefile in programs/ |
| 03:19 | <Chutt> | tmk, like what other programs? |
| 03:19 | <tmk> | like mythtv |
| 03:19 | <tmk> | or mythcommflag |
| 03:19 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 03:19 | <tmk> | k |
| 03:20 | <Chutt> | faster link times? =) |
| 03:20 | <tmk> | yea |
| 03:20 | <overridex> | Chutt: looking back in the mailing list archives, i'm not sure it ever handled rtjpeg right even when the patch was new... |
| 03:20 | <Chutt> | no, it didn't |
| 03:21 | <overridex> | i've been trying to just get the rtjpeg files into mpeg2 so i could encode from there, but the nuvexport script craps out |
| 03:21 | <tmk> | by when must i update xmltv again? |
| 03:22 | <tmk> | overr: i dont think mpg2 works right with libavcodec, at least for encoding |
| 03:22 | <Chutt> | tmk, soon |
| 03:22 | <overridex> | tmk: darn.... |
| 03:23 | <overridex> | i want to get the rtjpeg into something i can use mencoder with, without losing quality.... just because i'd like to use some of mencoder's filters like denoise to encode to xvid for keeping |
| 03:23 | <tmk> | uh oh |
| 03:23 | <tmk> | i think i pissed off the database |
| 03:23 | <tmk> | now nothing can find its keyframes |
| 03:24 | <Chutt> | well, it should fall back to looking for them, then |
| 03:25 | <tmk> | that doesn't work at all |
| 03:25 | <tmk> | just thinks for a second, then skips forward like 1/8 a second |
| 03:26 | <tmk> | ok i take that back |
| 03:26 | <tmk> | it works if i rewind past where i've been |
| 03:26 | <tmk> | so is it updating the database again |
| 03:26 | <tmk> | or just memory |
| 03:27 | <Chutt> | well, the playback finding stuff only goes into memory |
| 03:27 | <Chutt> | doesn't use the db |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | ok |
| 03:28 | <hEximal> | is there a 'cheatsheet' of commands? |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | hmm.. is it possible to fix a database? |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | keys.txt |
| 03:28 | <Chutt> | keys.txt |
| 03:28 | <hEximal> | ty |
| 03:28 | <Chutt> | tmk, depends on what's wrong with it |
| 03:28 | <Chutt> | generally, yeah |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | great |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | i better go look then |
| 03:28 | <Chutt> | i need to go to bed |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | i have a recording scheduledin 3.5 hrs |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | ok nite |
| 03:28 | <tmk> | any last-second tips? |
| 03:29 | <Chutt> | sorry, dunno |
| 03:33 | <lmatter> | tmk, probably a long shot, but I found this: |
| 03:33 | <lmatter> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/Problem_Recording_P76959/ |
| 03:39 | <tmk> | larry: thanks that looks like what i'm experiencing |
| 03:39 | <tmk> | now...how to dump a database.. |
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| 03:47 | <lmatter> | tmk, on mandrake it's mysqldump -u root mythconverg > foo.sql |
| 03:50 | <tmk> | woot |
| 03:50 | <tmk> | got it repaired |
| 03:50 | <tmk> | repair table <tablename> from the mysql console |
| 03:51 | <phar0e> | yo |
| 03:52 | <phar0e> | I need to resample some of my recordings from 44100Hz down to 32000Hz, tried mythtranscode without luck, anyone have any suggestions? |
| 03:52 | <lmatter> | tmk, now perhaps you have enough confidence to upgrade xmltv? |
| 03:53 | <tmk> | that doesn't scare me |
| 03:53 | <tmk> | i'm just lazy |
| 03:53 | <tmk> | hmm box locked |
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| 04:14 | <tmk> | xmltv upgraded. ya |
| 04:14 | <tmk> | y |
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| 04:17 | <sfr> | good morning |
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| 10:40 | <extremis> | hrm, cvs doesn't seem to be generating a makefile anymore when I configure |
| 10:40 | <extremis> | am I doing something wrong? |
| 10:40 | <warlord> | RTFM |
| 10:40 | <warlord> | yes |
| 10:40 | <extremis> | hehe |
| 10:40 | <extremis> | ok |
| 10:41 | <extremis> | hrm |
| 10:42 | <extremis> | ahh qmake |
| 10:42 | <extremis> | odd |
| 10:42 | <warlord> | yea, it is.. |
| 10:43 | <warlord> | I guess they didn't know how to use auto-* |
| 10:43 | <extremis> | hrm, now to figure out how to get -march=athlon-xp in |
| 10:43 | <extremis> | it changed |
| 10:43 | <warlord> | settings.pro? |
| 10:43 | | * warlord isn't sure about that. |
| 10:43 | <o_cee> | does those make much difference anyway? |
| 10:43 | <extremis> | yeah, I added it there, but its not behaving like it did before qmake came in |
| 10:43 | <extremis> | o_cee: well it seems to ignore my changes to settings.pro |
| 10:43 | <extremis> | its not adding the march anymore |
| 10:43 | <o_cee> | maybe more difference with amd's |
| 10:43 | <warlord> | Actually, I'm not sure it makes a difference between -march=athlon-xp and -march=i686 |
| 10:44 | <o_cee> | i've put pentium3 everywhere anyway |
| 10:44 | <extremis> | warlard: it was -march=pentiumpro |
| 10:44 | <extremis> | thats the default |
| 10:44 | <extremis> | its not even using march at all in the compile now |
| 10:45 | <Chutt> | it doesn't really make much difference |
| 10:46 | <o_cee> | thought i read that somewhere as well |
| 10:49 | <o_cee> | anyone know of a xmltv channel on freenode? |
| 10:49 | <Chutt> | there's a mailing list |
| 10:49 | <o_cee> | have had direct contact with Ed Avis, thought i'd catch him on irc instead |
| 10:49 | <o_cee> | fixed some stuff with the swedish grabber |
| 10:56 | <o_cee> | you using phpMyAdmin Chutt? |
| 10:57 | <Chutt> | no |
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| 11:02 | <o_cee> | okay.. nevermind then |
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| 11:06 | <PNY> | isnt mysqlcc useful for you? |
| 11:08 | <PNY> | I guess not |
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| 11:12 | | * kvandivo goes off to upgrade OpenSSL. |
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| 11:17 | <tmk> | **yawn** |
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| 11:26 | <tmk> | chutt: fixed the problem |
| 11:26 | <tmk> | in cvs |
| 11:26 | <tmk> | bbl |
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| 11:28 | <Helius_> | what does it take to get Mythfrontend to run on the EPIA-m (neiamiah) board? |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | nothing special? |
| 11:28 | <Helius_> | I compiled the kernel according to the config found at linpvr.org |
| 11:29 | <Helius_> | ok, just wondered if that onboard GPU was going to be enough to run Xv |
| 11:30 | <Helius_> | I noticed that the patches to make the streamzap remote work with lirc seem to be broken... anyone have a suggestion? |
| 11:30 | <Helius_> | anyone using a sreamzap remote? |
| 11:31 | <Helius_> | thinking of building my own serial IR receiver |
| 11:39 | <PNY> | I have been using another brand IR receiver, but now I though I would try Nova-T / Nexus-S ir receivers... any ideas on why /dev/lirc seem not to be available for irrecord? |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | this isn't the lirc help channel. |
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| 11:41 | <PNY> | Heh, has somebody actually got help on something else either ;-) |
| 11:42 | <thor_> | hey Chutt, can you help me speed up my channel changes ? |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | sure, i'll get right on that |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | pny, this isn't a help channel, period. |
| 11:43 | <PNY> | I know - just could not resist the temptation. |
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| 11:51 | <kvandivo> | ya, i agree, thor.. i've been annoyed with the channel changing speed for some time now, but no one else seems to notice anything about it. i'm glad you brought it up |
| 11:52 | <thor_> | oh, and when is the stupid development team going to finish ATI All-In-Wonder support? |
| 11:54 | <kvandivo> | and the development team really needs to get to work on providing better guide data, too. I want at least 4 weeks of data, and I don't know why the development team won't let me have it. |
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| 11:55 | <thor_> | and get rid of that icky Nipple Video Format, what kind of proprietary junk is that ? |
| 11:55 | <henry> | Well, now that you've identified all the problems, we need to write them down and have a meeting to prioritize them. |
| 11:56 | <thor_> | need a committee to decide who should be allowed to particiapte in the prioritization methedology |
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| 11:57 | <warlord> | and we need some advisors to create the committee... |
| 11:57 | <chris> | is this the chan for development or user or both? |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | development, preferably |
| 11:57 | <chris> | k |
| 11:58 | <thor_> | and a selection panel to draft tems of reference for advisors |
| 11:58 | <thor_> | ahhhhh ..... I feel much better now |
| 11:59 | <chris> | is there mythtv-devel documentation? doxygen generated or otherwise? |
| 11:59 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 11:59 | <thor_> | chris .... what are you looking for ? |
| 12:00 | <chris> | thor_: a way to figure out wtf is going on in mythtv |
| 12:01 | <thor_> | core TV recording and playing, or how other modules work? |
| 12:01 | <chris> | not really sure.. just wanting to look |
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| 12:01 | <thor_> | MythVideo is relatively small and not badly documented .... |
| 12:01 | <chris> | i'm a qt/c++ @ work... figured i could poke around and see if i could add/change something that is requested. |
| 12:02 | <thor_> | s/documented/commented |
| 12:02 | <chris> | doxygen commented? |
| 12:02 | <chris> | i saw there was a todo list created somewhere... |
| 12:02 | <chris> | i ran doxygen against it this morning. the whole mythtv tar ball. |
| 12:03 | <thor_> | no ... just read the code |
| 12:03 | <kvandivo> | it's one of the rites of passage |
| 12:04 | <chris> | yeah.. but good documentation would speed the ramp up for a potential developer. i understand the RTFS and RTFM but tools are useful too. |
| 12:04 | <chris> | thanx. |
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| 12:04 | <warlord> | heh |
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| 12:16 | <nulltank> | for gentoo users is it recommended that we use the ebuilds or stick with the tarballs/cvs? |
| 12:16 | <thor_> | nulltank, you toggle your list as shuffled setting? |
| 12:16 | <warlord> | I think the answer is "up to you" |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | use whatever you want |
| 12:17 | <tmk> | Chutt: you see my note earlier |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:17 | <tmk> | cool |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | does that fix the seeking problem? |
| 12:17 | <tmk> | seems to |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 12:17 | <nulltank> | thor_: i've been too busy with preparing for a Chicago trip that I haven't been able to play with my myth in a couple of days; thanks for asking though |
| 12:17 | <tmk> | fortuantely, it seems to set one of the fields to '0' |
| 12:18 | <kvandivo> | personally, nulltank, i installed the first time using ebuilds, because that took care of all the dependencies for me, and then i installed cvs with the same config settings as make.conf, and have used it ever since |
| 12:18 | <tmk> | when it has that wierd value |
| 12:18 | <tmk> | so i just look for that then get it again if it's bogus |
| 12:18 | <nulltank> | thor_: i'll let you know how it works when i get a chance to try it ;-) |
| 12:18 | <tmk> | anyhoo. any chance you can look into the 'bad file descriptor on IVTV_IOC_FRAMESYNC ' errors at some point? |
| 12:19 | <nulltank> | kvandivo: do you cvs all the modules or just the main mythtv one? |
| 12:19 | <tmk> | seems to happen after a capture |
| 12:19 | <kvandivo> | nulltank: all |
| 12:19 | <kvandivo> | nulltank: if you go cvs, you need to go cvs all the way. you'll get library problems otherwise |
| 12:20 | <nulltank> | kvandivo: ah, ok |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | tmk, yeah, if i can reproduce it |
| 12:27 | <tmk> | cool. it's very easy for me..just record and watch the console when it's done :) |
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| 13:31 | <FryGuy-> | who is the guy that made the knoppmyth distro? |
| 13:37 | <thor_> | Cecil Watson |
| 13:43 | <FryGuy-> | come on irc? |
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| 13:53 | <thor_> | I think so |
| 13:53 | <thor_> | email is Cecil Watson <cwatson@linkline.com> |
| 13:54 | <FryGuy-> | i just wanted to know if I did something wrong to cause the knoppix menu to only have 1. partition and 2. quit when I rebooted. |
| 13:54 | <FryGuy-> | i'm going to try downloading the r3 version at work and burning it. my burner here is shot :( |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | warlord, um |
| 14:05 | <warlord> | yes? |
| 14:06 | <Chutt> | you _do_ realize that the widget you just wrote in with suggestions for isn't a qt widget, right? |
| 14:06 | <warlord> | oh? it's a gtk widget? |
| 14:06 | <Chutt> | no, it's something thor wrote. |
| 14:06 | <warlord> | based on qt, right? |
| 14:06 | <Chutt> | nope. |
| 14:07 | <warlord> | so it has no parent class? |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | right. |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | all of the UI stuff is custom. |
| 14:07 | <warlord> | Really? Weird. |
| 14:07 | <warlord> | No, I didn't know that. |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | see, it's not hard to find those things out :p |
| 14:07 | <warlord> | It doesn't matter -- my analysis still stands. |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | your analysis is totally bunk |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | since you didn't even bother to look at what it's doing |
| 14:08 | <warlord> | does it have a freeze/thaw capability? |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 14:08 | <warlord> | is it being used in this instance? |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | it's being used all the time, from what i understand. |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | stuff doesn't get redrawn in the middle of the event loop. |
| 14:08 | <warlord> | have YOU looked to verify? |
| 14:09 | <thor_> | warlord, it's only slow when it has resort itself to handle a Shuffle mode which is not the same as its display mode |
| 14:09 | <o_cee> | hmm, i must be getting some delay on my emails from the list, don't know what you're talking about :) |
| 14:09 | <warlord> | My point was that 4000 entries in any reasonable list shouldn't be slow. |
| 14:09 | <Chutt> | it's not, until it resorts itself. |
| 14:09 | <thor_> | it isn't |
| 14:10 | <thor_> | and it's not a list |
| 14:10 | <thor_> | it's a tree |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:10 | <warlord> | sorry, braino.. (in gtk2 a "list" is a subset of "tree" and they use the same interfaces) |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | same as in qt |
| 14:11 | <Chutt> | but qt's tree widget is actually sane |
| 14:11 | <Chutt> | unlike the crap they came up with for gtk2 |
| 14:11 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 14:11 | <thor_> | it's actually very fast at sorting if you have lots of hierarchy (treelists withing treelists), cause it only sorts what it needs to. Not so efficient when people insists on having a flat list. |
| 14:11 | <warlord> | I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the gtk2 crap.. |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | warlord, in freeamp, i had to make it be able to drag an item from a tree to a list (back in gtk1, when they were separate) |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | took, if i recall correctly, 3000 lines of code |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | that's what turned me off of gtk, by the way =) |
| 14:13 | <warlord> | i haven't played with any drag/drop interfaces.. |
| 14:13 | <warlord> | but I believe you. |
| 14:14 | <warlord> | does Qt have a 'glade' like feature (a UI designer tool where you build your GUI and then it writes out a config file that will load your GUI in your app?) |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | i've never used any of that, though |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | don't generally like the code those things churn out, so i spend more time rewriting it than i would have to write it manually |
| 14:15 | <warlord> | oh, I dont use glade to generate code, only the UI description file... (and the libglade will build the dialog or window based on the description and let you get a handle on any widgets you want) |
| 14:15 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 14:15 | <warlord> | I wouldn't trust the C it outputs |
| 14:16 | <warlord> | ;) |
| 14:16 | <thor_> | friggin semicolons |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | heh, missed one? =) |
| 14:16 | <thor_> | forehead was getting bloody too |
| 14:18 | <warlord> | those brick walls aren't meant for head-banging, you know.... |
| 14:21 | <thor_> | oh yes! |
| 14:30 | <warlord> | Chutt: as for my algorithm analysis.. from personal experience I've seen people write an O(n) 'list.insert()' method -- it walks O(n) to the end of the list and then appends your new item to the end. This can cause you to perform an O(n^2) operation to insert a list into another list. |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | right, but before commenting, you should at least look to see what it's doing :p |
| 14:37 | <warlord> | i'll keep that in mind for next time |
| 14:41 | <kvandivo> | so, last night i changed my crontab back from being 11:59pm, and those duplicate entry errors that I had been getting in mythfilldatabase went away.. So i'm in the process of looking through mythfilldatabase to figure out what might be screwing up if the day changes while mythfilldatabase is running |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | it probably doesn't like straddling midnight is all |
| 14:42 | <warlord> | that's my guess.. |
| 14:42 | <kvandivo> | i agree entirely.. i don't see a reason that it should matter, though.. |
| 14:42 | <kvandivo> | so i'm going to try and find and fix it.. |
| 14:42 | <warlord> | Perhaps we should just change the fillData(*it,1); to 0? |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | well, it's probably getting the system time everywhere |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | instead of just at startup |
| 14:43 | <warlord> | to force-update "today" instead of "tomorrow"? |
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| 14:43 | <kvandivo> | that potentially adds a lot of unnecessary grabbing |
| 14:43 | <warlord> | kvandivo: eh? how is it any more unnecessary than what it currently does? |
| 14:43 | <kvandivo> | because if you run it at 11:59pm, it's going to get a full day of data that is useless |
| 14:44 | <warlord> | it does that if you run it at 12:01, too |
| 14:45 | <kvandivo> | no, it just verifies that data starting 23 hours and 59 minutes from 12:01 is accurate. not useless, though |
| 14:45 | <warlord> | and since the docs suggest using cron.daily, which is run at 4am, changing from 0 to 1 makes sense. |
| 14:45 | <warlord> | er, 1->0 |
| 14:45 | <kvandivo> | cron.daily is run whenever the distribution wants to run it (assuming the user hasn't changed the time) |
| 14:45 | <kvandivo> | on gentoo it runs at midnight, for instance |
| 14:45 | <warlord> | right, which means it will be "tomorrow", and not "today", so '0' is correct |
| 14:46 | <kvandivo> | ideally, xmltv could be told to retrieve the next 24 hours, instead of a particular day. _that_ would be idea. but i'm guessing that xmltv doesn't work like that. |
| 14:46 | <kvandivo> | ideal, i mean. :) |
| 14:46 | <warlord> | no, I dont think it does work that way (but yes, that would be ideal) |
| 14:48 | <kvandivo> | at any rate, that's why i was running it at 11:59.. i figured 'tomorrow' would provide updates to the timeframe starting 1 minute later. and, on a whim, I was hoping that by the time it ran the tail end check to grab data a week out there, the day would have switched and it would grab an extra day of data for me. |
| 14:48 | <warlord> | Actually, i think it does. I ran it at 11am today and the first entry in the xml file is: tv date="20031001110002 -0400" ... |
| 14:49 | <kvandivo> | having said that, i hadn't bothered looking at the code to know if that was what was going to happen or not.. and now i've uncovered this other little thing that i'm going to take care of first |
| 14:50 | <warlord> | Er, wait, that's just the xmltv timestamp, not the program data timestamp. |
| 14:50 | <warlord> | It looks like it chooses a 0000-1159 timeframe and grabs programs for that timeframe, regardless of what the current time is. |
| 14:52 | <warlord> | anyways, gotta run |
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| 15:17 | <kvandivo> | was thinking about a recording that i accidentally deleted last night and was thinking that undelete functionality would be handy. the user could specify a max amount of space to allocate to it, it would integrate with the other code that deletes old recordings, etc.. |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | that's why it confirms each deletion |
| 15:22 | <kvandivo> | :) ya.. but some of us are too stupid to read that closely |
| 15:23 | <kvandivo> | actually, though.. there's this thing that I've noticed that led to that happening.. from my 'plans' file: |
| 15:23 | <kvandivo> | look into coming out of a recording and having the cursor jump to the next |
| 15:23 | <kvandivo> | program up. this caused me to delete a program other than the one i |
| 15:23 | <kvandivo> | was wanting. |
| 15:24 | <kvandivo> | it might just be me imagining things, though. i've got to investigate more |
| 15:24 | <kvandivo> | i had watched a show, hit escape, and i could swear that i ended up on the recording line _above_ the show i had just watched |
| 15:25 | <kvandivo> | and then i hit 'd' and the automatic 'yes' ;( and deleted a show i hadn't watched yet |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 15:25 | <kvandivo> | ya.. it's just something i've got on my list to look at.. |
| 15:32 | <thor_> | god damn non reentrant QSockets |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | well, my beef with those is that they need the eventloop running |
| 15:34 | <Chutt> | i'd be happy with a similar class that was synchronous instead of qt's async stuff |
| 15:34 | <thor_> | thought I was really clever .... pass threads a pointer, and give them a method that passes back an event with a pointer to the socket |
| 15:34 | <thor_> | post an Event that is |
| 15:35 | <thor_> | but .... if client goes away and new client connects, the new client socket will often have the same address |
| 15:35 | <thor_> | so .... time for a unique identifier |
| 15:35 | <Chutt> | check out how the mainserver.cpp code does it |
| 15:36 | <thor_> | ah .... ok |
| 15:36 | <Chutt> | i think it does something similar to what you're talking about |
| 15:36 | <thor_> | first part, yes |
| 15:37 | <thor_> | but that socket pointer you pass back (parent->ProcessRequest(socket)) could end up being a pointer to a socket that just came into existence |
| 15:37 | <thor_> | I think |
| 15:38 | <thor_> | but then I'm an idiot |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | well |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | i guess i'm assuming that stuff's not going to get shut down that quickly |
| 15:39 | <thor_> | I'm debugging with telnet (my thing, not mythbackend) ... and it happens a lot (quit, restart) under somewhat artifical circumstances |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | well, i dunno |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | maybe have a way to notify the handler thread that their socket went away? |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | instead of leaving it up to the parent to do that? |
| 15:39 | <thor_> | just building a tiny class on top of QSocket that holds a unique int |
| 15:40 | <thor_> | pass the int around instead of the socket pointer |
| 15:40 | <thor_> | check if the int still corresponds to an existing socket, and use that |
| 15:47 | <thor_> | 'cause the handler thread might want to do what the client asked even if the client went away (transcode a DVD 'fer example) |
| 15:54 | <thor_> | hmmm ... attribution to "fixing" playlists seems a tad over precise |
| 15:59 | <thor_> | arrrrgggghhhh .... I swear I'm gonna write a programming language called C;; that doesn't require friggin semicolons everywhere |
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| 16:01 | <thor_> | and does require them at the end of if()'s ! |
| 16:03 | <nulltank> | thor_: ok, i'll bite; how would the compiler know a statement is finished? and please don't say say EOL |
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| 16:04 | | * o_cee is away: sleep |
| 16:04 | <sfr> | AI |
| 16:05 | | * nulltank can't stand python because whitespace matters in it |
| 16:05 | <thor_> | just like COBOL, stay in your columns |
| 16:05 | <thor_> | (i am kidding( |
| 16:10 | <sfr> | hey guys, what do think about freeing some screen space by changing the misc. recording options from a list to a combobox? |
| 16:11 | <sfr> | i'm refering to the 'basic' recordings options screen. |
| 16:12 | <thor_> | hmmm, don't try and test it by selecting Unkown in the Program Guide |
| 16:13 | <sfr> | huh? |
| 16:15 | <thor_> | nothing important |
| 16:17 | <Chutt> | sfr, i like that screen as it is |
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| 16:18 | <sfr> | but the misc. options (daily, weekly...) take up a lot of space that could be better used to show the description imho. |
| 16:19 | <sfr> | i switched to a program listing that provides quite long descriptions |
| 16:21 | <Chutt> | i don't really like to use combo boxes for important stuff in the ui |
| 16:21 | <Chutt> | except where it's needed in the settings code, for instance |
| 16:22 | <Chutt> | hard to see what the available options are |
| 16:23 | <sfr> | i agree, but it's being already used in the adv. recordings option screen, due to the limited space |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | i don't use that screen at all |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | it's 'advanced' :p |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 16:24 | <sfr> | and anyway we expect new users to read the docs, so they should know the power of mythtv. |
| 16:25 | <Chutt> | would it be considered rude to tell that guy on -users to stop being a whiney bitch and use google to answer simple questions instead of the mailing lists? |
| 16:25 | <sfr> | or you could simply ignore him |
| 16:25 | <Chutt> | but that's no fun |
| 16:26 | <sfr> | heh, no |
| 16:26 | <thor_> | the key is to be biting and funny .... nobody does it better than Torvalds |
| 16:30 | <thor_> | also, try to avoid Nazis |
| 16:31 | <kvandivo> | http://news1.iwon.com/odd/article/id/357844|oddlyenough|10-01-2003::10:04|reuters.html |
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| 19:58 | <bline> | a day for multiple posts |
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| 20:10 | <tmk> | you had any free cycles to look into that bug from earlier chutt? |
| 20:10 | <tmk> | the IVTV_IOC_FRAMESYNC one |
| 20:19 | <cesman> | tmk:which would you recommend a PVR 250 or 350? |
| 20:19 | <phar0e> | has there been any reports of recent CVS audio problems? or is my system posessed? |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | cesman: depends what you want |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | if you have a slow box, you almost need a 350 |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | if you have a fast box, why get a 250? :) |
| 20:20 | <sfr> | b/c of the mpeg2 decoder? |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | i hear the quality of the video is good however |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | i've never used any other cards |
| 20:21 | <tmk> | sfr: ya |
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| 20:25 | <cesman> | tmk:so I can kick some a$$ win XMAME while recording something |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | hehe ok fair enough |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | i am quite fond of my 350 |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | but it won't be able to play mame games on the output i don't think |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | unless |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | hmm! |
| 20:26 | <cesman> | I was wondering about that... |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | run the svideo out from the video card |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | to the svideo in on the card |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | heh |
| 20:27 | <tmk> | it can do 'passthru' |
| 20:27 | <cesman> | thought about that as well ;) |
| 20:27 | <tmk> | i've been meaning to make it an option to be 'passthru by default' |
| 20:27 | <tmk> | ie when not recording |
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| 20:32 | <cesman> | tmk:forgot to say THANKS for the ivtv drivers! |
| 20:37 | <tmk> | :) |
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| 20:58 | <Chutt> | tmk, no, been busy with stuff at work |
| 20:59 | <Chutt> | tmk, did notice that newegg is selling refurb avermedia m179 cards or whatever their version of the 250-1 is for $44 |
| 20:59 | <Chutt> | in case you wanted to pick one up cheap to make it work or something :p |
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| 21:02 | <phar0e> | when I use mythtranscode it uses profile id now, but, under that profile id there are Default, Live TV, High & Low Quality |
| 21:02 | <phar0e> | how do I select say.. Low Quality? |
| 21:10 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 21:10 | <tmk> | someone posted that earlier |
| 21:10 | <tmk> | i was trying to get someone to buy me one so i could make it work |
| 21:10 | <tmk> | they currently work ok for video, but the sound chip is different |
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| 21:14 | <DogBoy> | heh |
| 21:16 | <phar0e> | HEH |
| 21:16 | <phar0e> | what is funny DogBoy? |
| 21:16 | <DogBoy> | trying to figure out how to add a second tv card in mythtv-setup |
| 21:17 | <phar0e> | cool |
| 21:17 | <DogBoy> | I was asking cesman about it and he said there was a #mythtv channel |
| 21:17 | <tmk> | press enter while selecting the (create new card) option |
| 21:17 | <tmk> | :) |
| 21:18 | <DogBoy> | and then the second card will be just like the first but with like /dev/video0 rather than /dev/video ? |
| 21:18 | <tmk> | well first card should be /dev/video0 |
| 21:18 | <tmk> | second /dev/video1 etc |
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| 21:21 | <DogBoy> | hmm confusing |
| 21:21 | <phar0e> | you'll have cardid 2, then you'll have to get a second set of channels.. 20xx for that card I believe |
| 21:22 | <tmk> | yep |
| 21:22 | <tmk> | you can use the same channel source |
| 21:22 | <tmk> | on multiple cards/inputs tho |
| 21:23 | <tmk> | you shouldn't define duplicates of listsings |
| 21:23 | <tmk> | ie 2 "digital-cable" entries for the same zipcode |
| 21:23 | <tmk> | just need one |
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| 21:46 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: Someone sent a patch through for fixing mpegts, but I don't think it was cvs patch (It was about 4 lines added) will you be posting that, or do you want a real cvs diff patch? |
| 21:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | tmk: so the CX23415 on newegg is a typo and it's actually a CX24315 chip? |
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| 22:12 | <Captain_Murdoch> | doh: just noticed tmk left a while ago. :) |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | bbeattie, naw, i can apply it manually, no prob. |
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| 22:53 | <DogBoy> | gee it takes a long time to do that tv grab thing |
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| 22:54 | <sdh> | hello |
| 22:55 | <DogBoy> | hi |
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| 22:58 | <sdh> | anyone have any idea why my backend dies with a decoding error message after it finishes recording a show? |
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| 23:04 | <kvandivo> | sometimes i just feel compelled to post this URL: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro |
| 23:04 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:05 | <DogBoy> | hehe |
| 23:05 | <DogBoy> | eric s. raymond |
| 23:06 | <DogBoy> | he had the best laugh in "revolution os" |
| 23:08 | <sdh> | kvandivo: well I can provide more info, that's the beauty of it |
| 23:08 | <sdh> | is this something that requires a backtrace? |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | sdh, well, a backtrace probably wouldn't help, if it's dying with an error message |
| 23:09 | <sdh> | ok, well it's cvs from a few days ago with a pvr 250 |
| 23:09 | <sdh> | say I have 2 shows lined up to record back to back |
| 23:09 | <sdh> | the first records fine |
| 23:09 | <sdh> | then the backend dies at exactly the end of the show |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | well, it's decoding for the commercial detection stuff |
| 23:10 | <kvandivo> | what 'decoding error message' is it giving, exactly? |
| 23:11 | <sdh> | that's it |
| 23:11 | <sdh> | decoding error |
| 23:11 | <sdh> | very descriptive |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | heh, well, it's from avcodec |
| 23:11 | <bline> | Chutt: is there something that happens every 70 seconds in some thread? |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | there's no error return, just a -1, so the error message really can't be any more descriptive |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | bline, every 70 seconds? |
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| 23:12 | <Chutt> | i don't think so, why? |
| 23:12 | <bline> | Yeah, 68-70 |
| 23:12 | <bline> | ok, thanks |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | what's it doing? |
| 23:12 | <cbreen> | anyone know where Ic an find more information on getting two ir receivers working at one |
| 23:12 | <cbreen> | once |
| 23:12 | <bline> | pvr is dropping frames every 68-70 seconds like clockwork |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 23:12 | <bline> | strange that it is like clockwork |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | it syncs to disk every second or two |
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| 23:12 | <sdh> | Chutt: so are you inferring that somehow my mpeg capture is borked? |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | might be the db writes? |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | sdh, yup |
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| 23:13 | <Chutt> | or something else is wrong |
| 23:13 | <sdh> | odd, cause myth will play the file fine |
| 23:13 | <bline> | ill debug it someday heh |
| 23:13 | <sdh> | I suppose I could disable commercial skip... |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | sdh, huh, weird |
| 23:14 | <kvandivo> | bline.. how many frames is it dropping? |
| 23:14 | <kvandivo> | a bunch, or a few? |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | it's using the exact same code for the commercial stuff as it is for playback |
| 23:14 | <sdh> | yeah, I figured |
| 23:14 | <sdh> | so where else can I look |
| 23:14 | <bline> | 7 to 8 hundred |
| 23:14 | <kvandivo> | 700 - 800? wow.. |
| 23:14 | <bline> | assuming a buffer is a frame |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | sdh, dunno, really |
| 23:14 | <bline> | and i think tmk said it is |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | depends on how skilled you are, really =) |
| 23:15 | <kvandivo> | so every 70 seconds, you are loosing up to 26 seconds of frames? |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | next thing to do would be to look in libavcodec to see what the hell's going on in there to make it avcodec_decode_video return with an error |
| 23:16 | <bbeattie> | if I haven't done an update in 2 weeks, are there any cvs updates? I know stuff was moved out of the cvs.sql, but I just want to double check that it isn't needed. |
| 23:16 | <bline> | kvandivo: Oct 1 19:35:40 localhost last message repeated 745 times\nOct 1 19:36:52 localhost last message repeated 826 times |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | bbeattie, it's all automatic now |
| 23:16 | <bline> | see it in the video pretty well |
| 23:17 | <dopez> | bline: any mpeg decoding artifacts?, might be firmware problems |
| 23:17 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: thanks, .. does that include other modules? |
| 23:17 | <bline> | i've tried every firmware there is and 4 different kernerl. beginning to think it is hardware |
| 23:17 | <Chutt> | bbeattie, not yet, but no other modules have any database updates |
| 23:17 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: thank you. |
| 23:18 | <sdh> | I can also trigger the same error when I go to recorded programs in mythweb and it tried to generate the screenshot and fails |
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| 23:19 | <Chutt> | sdh, yeah, same code as the commercial skip stuff |
| 23:19 | <sdh> | figured |
| 23:19 | <kvandivo> | bline, have you tweaked the bitrate? that might help isolate if it is a situation with a buffer filling up |
| 23:20 | <kvandivo> | (you said 'pvr', so i'm assuming an x50) |
| 23:20 | <bline> | yeah |
| 23:24 | <warlord> | bline: how fast is your HDD? |
| 23:24 | <warlord> | and your CPU and bus? |
| 23:26 | <bline> | fast, new 160G seagate liguid bearing, athlon xp 1800 |
| 23:27 | <bline> | the only reason I asked was it didnt do this till latest cvs update 5 days ago |
| 23:27 | <bline> | but it could just as well be the board starting to go out |
| 23:27 | <warlord> | did you update ivtv, too? |
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| 23:39 | <ajayrockrock> | any gentoo users in here? I'm having a problem with building xmltv |
| 23:40 | <ChaosExiguum> | what kinda problem? |
| 23:40 | <ajayrockrock> | actually the problem is with dev-perl/perl-tk-800.024-r2 |
| 23:40 | <ajayrockrock> | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27124 |
| 23:40 | <ajayrockrock> | there's a bug report already, I just wanted to know how you worked around it. |
| 23:42 | <ChaosExiguum> | hmm, hang on a sec |
| 23:42 | <bline> | install it manually? |
| 23:42 | <ChaosExiguum> | it emerged fine for me, thats the version im running |
| 23:43 | <ajayrockrock> | what version of perl and ExtUtils-MakeMaker |
| 23:43 | <ajayrockrock> | I've got perl-5.8.1 and ExtUtils-MakeMaker is at 6.16-r1 |
| 23:44 | <ChaosExiguum> | let me check |
| 23:45 | <ajayrockrock> | thanks. |
| 23:46 | <ChaosExiguum> | hmm, 5.8.1 is devel, im running 5.8.0-r12 |
| 23:46 | <ChaosExiguum> | and no makemaker |
| 23:47 | <ajayrockrock> | thanks. I'm going to try downgrading perl. |
| 23:47 | <bline> | MakeMaker comes with perl, the stuff gentoo does with it is slightly perverted |
| 23:47 | <ChaosExiguum> | any reason your using unstable ebuilds? |
| 23:47 | <bline> | why not just install it manually? |
| 23:47 | <bline> | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Tk"' |
| 23:47 | <ajayrockrock> | I've been running ~x86 for a while. |
| 23:48 | <ChaosExiguum> | ahh, I'd try the downgrade, then manual as a last resort |
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| 23:49 | <ajayrockrock> | yeah, I like CPAN but I get this feeling like it will conflict with the portage vresions. |
| 23:49 | <bline> | perl doesn't work like that... |
| 23:49 | <bline> | but whatever |
| 23:50 | <ChaosExiguum> | bline, work like what? |
| 23:50 | <bline> | You will not have problems installing Perl |
| 23:50 | <bline> | 's tk ontop of it's selfd |
| 23:50 | <bline> | ugg, damn keyboard |
| 23:51 | <ChaosExiguum> | ahh, right |
| 23:53 | -!- | billytwowilly [~chris@h24-86-147-220.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 23:54 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: for first time mythtv users, does the database autoload for them into the mythconverg database? |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | though i haven't tested that yet |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | need to sometime soon |
| 23:55 | <Chutt> | mc.sql still needs to be run |
| 23:55 | <Chutt> | but all it does now is create the database and the user to access it |
| --- | Log | closed Thu Oct 02 00:00:49 2003 |