--- | Log | opened Mon Oct 06 00:00:20 2003 |
00:01 | <FryGuy-> | hack: do you have a satellite receiver? |
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00:13 | <[DJ]HaCK> | yes |
00:13 | <[DJ]HaCK> | BEV |
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00:14 | <caos> | okay.. this things is driving me nuts.. Does anyone have an idea why I would be getting a ton of "Missing: X in tvList" messages where X is either 1 or 2 |
00:15 | <FryGuy-> | oh if you have directv, you can just get the cable.. it works better |
00:15 | <caos> | I get a screen or two full of them when I run mythbackend --printsched |
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00:17 | <[DJ]HaCK> | yeah but coax has color bleeding problems also the only cable provider I have here offer only 30 channel all of which sucks ! :\ |
00:17 | <caos> | anyone have any ideas? |
00:17 | <[DJ]HaCK> | never had that problem caos sorry |
00:17 | <caos> | rats.. |
00:18 | <caos> | and now I can't get dual tuners working.. mythbackend keeps dying.. oy.. well thats what I get for running bleedin-edge :-D |
00:20 | <tdb30_> | any idea why I get the message no setting found for this machines' backend server. please run setup on this machine and modify the first page the general setttings? I did that and it is showing video card and stuff |
00:22 | <Soopaman> | so why agian doesn't mythtv work with the ati all-in-wonders? |
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00:46 | <FryGuy-> | drivers |
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01:45 | <[DJ]HaCK> | what happens if mythfilldatabase's cron job gets interrupted ? |
01:46 | <[DJ]HaCK> | does the database get corrupted or next time mythfilldatabase is called it will continue where it left ? or will it need to start over ? |
01:48 | <mikegrb> | it'll start over next time |
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11:00 | <choenig> | sfr: around? |
11:05 | <sfr> | hi choenig |
11:06 | <choenig> | Hi, I'm just fighting with my G400 tvout... |
11:06 | <choenig> | you're running that, too? |
11:07 | <sfr> | yes, it's a marvel G400 though, but that shouldn't make a difference. |
11:07 | <choenig> | ok, then I'll get back to you when I'm stuck ;-) |
11:08 | <sfr> | didn't you use a nvidia card? |
11:08 | <choenig> | nope |
11:09 | <choenig> | I'm running a radeon on my working machine, but I don't have a single nvidia card around, just two other GXX0 cards |
11:09 | <sfr> | ok |
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15:04 | <barney_> | hello |
15:05 | <barney_> | can someone help me |
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15:06 | <barney_> | I always get this Error: |
15:06 | <barney_> | mythsetup |
15:06 | <barney_> | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
15:06 | <barney_> | Unable to connect to database! |
15:06 | <barney_> | Driver error was [1/-1]: |
15:06 | <barney_> | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
15:06 | <barney_> | Database error was: |
15:06 | <barney_> | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
15:06 | <barney_> | |
15:06 | <barney_> | Unable to open database: |
15:06 | <barney_> | Driver error was: |
15:06 | <barney_> | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
15:06 | <barney_> | Database error was: |
15:06 | <barney_> | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
15:07 | <kvandivo> | have you searched google for things like 'mythtv unable to connect to database'? |
15:08 | <kvandivo> | and the docs, and the list archives at gossamer-threads? |
15:09 | <barney_> | a bit |
15:09 | <barney_> | can you help me |
15:10 | <kvandivo> | have you created the database and can you connect to it using plain 'mysql'? |
15:12 | <barney_> | with mysql -p and then the password I am able to connect |
15:12 | <barney_> | is it possible to delete the root password |
15:12 | <kvandivo> | mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg ? that's what your error message says it is trying to connect as |
15:12 | <thor_> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=78113 |
15:13 | <kvandivo> | gee, thor.. i'll bet that was the very first return from my google query, wasn't it? :) |
15:13 | <thor_> | pretty close |
15:19 | <barney_> | i cant connect with mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
15:19 | <kvandivo> | fix that first. then myth will start working better. |
15:23 | <barney_> | how do I change a password for a user in mysql |
15:24 | <kvandivo> | google -> 'mysql change user password' ? |
15:25 | <thor_> | http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Passwords.html |
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15:32 | <barney_> | Do I have to encrypt the password for mythtv |
15:33 | <kvandivo> | the 'set password for' notation automatically encrypts what you send it |
15:34 | <barney_> | I have done this but I have now the same problem |
15:34 | <kvandivo> | i note, though, that you shouldn't need to do any of this password stuff if you followed the mythtv docs and those steps completed successfully. |
15:34 | <mikegrb> | check /usr/locl/share/mythtv/mysql.txt |
15:34 | <sfr> | barney_: how did you create the database? |
15:34 | <thor_> | "Passwords must be encrypted when they are inserted in the user table" <-- http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Passwords.html |
15:35 | <mikegrb> | thor_: that is if you manualy manipulate the user table |
15:35 | <kvandivo> | yes, thor_, but PASSWORD('plaintext') does that part for you |
15:35 | <thor_> | yes, yes, and yes. |
15:35 | | * kvandivo giggles. |
15:37 | <barney_> | I have emerged it |
15:37 | <mikegrb> | did you follow the steps to create the database from the mc.sql file? |
15:39 | <barney_> | I have done something like ... < mc.sql |
15:41 | <sfr> | barney_: then 'mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg' with password=mythtv should work. |
15:42 | <thor_> | sfr, that your streaming patch? |
15:42 | <sfr> | yup |
15:43 | <thor_> | cool, haven't played with it yet (later ... bit of work to finish first), but looking forward to fiddling with it |
15:43 | <barney_> | acces denied |
15:44 | <sfr> | thor_: ok, i'd like you to also look at the code if you have some time. it can probably be improved. |
15:45 | <sfr> | barney_: that something like was : mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql ? |
15:45 | <barney_> | yes |
15:45 | <sfr> | barney_: as root? |
15:46 | <barney_> | yes, i try it again |
15:47 | <barney_> | # mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql -p |
15:47 | <barney_> | Enter password: |
15:47 | <barney_> | ERROR 1007 at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. Database exists |
15:48 | <sfr> | barney_: what a surprise ;) read: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.4 to fix it (use the -r flag in the mysql command) |
15:48 | <sfr> | barney_: make that -r an -f |
15:49 | <thor_> | barney_, what doe the second line of your mc.sql say? |
15:50 | <barney_> | # mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql -f -p |
15:50 | <barney_> | Enter password: |
15:50 | <barney_> | ERROR 1007 at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. Database exists |
15:50 | <barney_> | ERROR 1062 at line 251: Duplicate entry 'Default' for key 2 |
15:50 | <barney_> | ERROR 1062 at line 252: Duplicate entry 'Live TV' for key 2 |
15:50 | <barney_> | ERROR 1062 at line 253: Duplicate entry 'Transcode' for key 2 |
15:51 | <thor_> | sfr, will do |
15:51 | <barney_> | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
15:51 | <barney_> | the 2. line |
15:51 | <thor_> | ok |
15:52 | <thor_> | so you have user mythtv with password mythtv, now what's the problem ? |
15:53 | <sfr> | barney_: ok. you installed mythtv and mysql on the same machine? |
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15:55 | <barney_> | yes, now I can run mythsetup |
15:55 | <barney_> | but can't use my mouse |
15:55 | <thor_> | good |
15:55 | <thor_> | you're not supposed to |
15:55 | <barney_> | which keys I need to configure |
15:55 | <sfr> | barney_: intentional |
15:56 | <thor_> | up, down, left right |
15:56 | <thor_> | space/enter |
15:56 | <sfr> | barney_: read /usr/share/mythtv/keys.txt |
15:57 | <sfr> | where is keys.txt after make install? |
15:57 | <thor_> | updatedb; locate keys.txt |
15:58 | <barney_> | ok, where can I now find my tv card |
15:58 | <thor_> | hopefully inside your computer :-) |
15:58 | <barney_> | :) |
15:59 | <barney_> | at /dev/video0 is no cart |
15:59 | <thor_> | what kind of card (please, please, please do not say ATI All-In-Wonder) |
16:00 | <barney_> | worse |
16:00 | <barney_> | A medion, with a philips chipset |
16:00 | <sfr> | barney_: does xawtv work? |
16:00 | <barney_> | i use the kernel 2.6 and it is supported |
16:01 | <sfr> | barney_: but does xawtv work? :) |
16:01 | <barney_> | no, I get a memory error |
16:01 | <thor_> | "suported" as in a module loads., or "suported" as in V4L device? |
16:02 | <barney_> | I selected it as module |
16:03 | <thor_> | barney_, if you can't get xawtv to work with it, it is time to buy a card that actually works. |
16:04 | <barney_> | no money |
16:04 | <sfr> | no tv |
16:05 | <barney_> | :( |
16:05 | <sfr> | barney_: does xawtv work? |
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16:09 | <barney_> | wait I install it again |
16:13 | <barney_> | I have done the mythsetup, now I have a /dev/video0 |
16:14 | <barney_> | what I have next to do |
16:15 | <sfr> | barney_: RTFM. one tip for mythfilldatabase: you WANT to call it with the options --preset and --manual in addition what the docs tell you. |
16:16 | <sfr> | barney_: this channel isn't really intended for end-user support, but we are tolerant to some degree. :) |
16:18 | <barney_> | thx |
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16:19 | <barney_> | what does mythfilldatabase do |
16:21 | <sfr> | barney_: myth...fill..database. importing tv channel and/or programm data in the db. |
16:21 | <barney_> | from the internet |
16:21 | <o_cee> | hmm |
16:21 | <barney_> | I only ask because I am behind a proxy |
16:21 | <o_cee> | hmm again |
16:21 | <sfr> | not necessarily |
16:22 | <sfr> | nxtvepg can grab nextview program data transmitted by some tv channels and export it as an xmltv file, which mythfilldatabase can use. |
16:23 | <barney_> | ------------------ End of XMLTV output ------------------ |
16:23 | <barney_> | Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file |
16:23 | <barney_> | Fetching data for Die Okt 14 2003 |
16:23 | <barney_> | ----------------- Start of XMLTV output ----------------- |
16:23 | <barney_> | using config file /root/.mythtv/.xmltv |
16:23 | <barney_> | |
16:23 | <barney_> | |
16:23 | <barney_> | ------------------ End of XMLTV output ------------------ |
16:23 | <barney_> | Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file |
16:23 | <barney_> | ----------------- Start of XMLTV output ----------------- |
16:23 | <barney_> | This grabber is currently unable to fetch listings, because the file |
16:23 | <barney_> | generation at the server has stopped. When the server starts genating |
16:23 | <barney_> | files again, the grabber will work again. Proceeding, but unless the |
16:23 | <barney_> | server has been fixed recently it will not work... |
16:23 | <barney_> | |
16:23 | <barney_> | couldn't get all of 7 days, only 0 |
16:23 | <barney_> | downloading listings: (nothing to do)------------------ End of XMLTV output ------------------ |
16:23 | <barney_> | Ignoring invalid TimeOffset |
16:23 | <o_cee> | hmmm |
16:23 | <barney_> | this is die end of my error massage |
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16:24 | <elocal> | I need help |
16:24 | <sfr> | barney_: tv_grab_de stopped working a few weeks ago :(. |
16:24 | <elocal> | wait |
16:24 | <elocal> | no |
16:24 | <elocal> | its workin now |
16:24 | <elocal> | ok |
16:24 | <o_cee> | wtf is wrong with people today |
16:24 | <elocal> | its downloading some jpgs |
16:25 | <elocal> | xD |
16:25 | <elocal> | ROFL |
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16:25 | <sfr> | o_cee: nothing. that's what happens when a project becomes popular. |
16:26 | <elocal> | yea, lots of newbies try it(like me) |
16:27 | <elocal> | I am making the .../mythtv-backend --configure |
16:27 | <elocal> | its downloading some images |
16:27 | <barney_> | what is rtc |
16:27 | <sfr> | wtf is wrong with people today? |
16:28 | <elocal> | it stalled in one that says homeshoppingnetwork_30.jpg |
16:28 | <o_cee> | sfr: this is _still_ no help channel. you know that as well |
16:28 | <sfr> | o_cee: <sfr> barney_: this channel isn't really intended for end-user support, but we are tolerant to some degree. :) |
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16:29 | <o_cee> | this isn't "some degree".. heheh |
16:30 | <elocal> | 16:43:13 (813.48 KB/s) - `homeshoppingnetwork_30.jpg' saved [833/833] |
16:30 | <elocal> | and stoped there, what can I do? |
16:30 | <o_cee> | still think #mythtv-users should be a place for users to help each other. but chutt dislikes the idea for some reason |
16:30 | <o_cee> | elocal: debug the code |
16:30 | <elocal> | --- Cannot join #mythtv-users (Channel is invite only). |
16:30 | <o_cee> | yeah, i know |
16:30 | <o_cee> | it's mine ;) |
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16:30 | <elocal> | debug the code? |
16:31 | <o_cee> | i didn't say there _was_ a channel like that yet |
16:31 | <elocal> | oh ok |
16:31 | <sfr> | o_cee: i don't think that would work too well, having only users and no 'experts'. |
16:31 | <o_cee> | experts can be there as well of course |
16:31 | <o_cee> | but this should be development questions/discussion only. |
16:31 | <sfr> | would you? :) |
16:32 | <o_cee> | sure, i try to answer when i'vegot time and know the answer |
16:32 | <elocal> | this downloaded lots of freaking images but it stalled, please helop me |
16:32 | <o_cee> | how? |
16:34 | <elocal> | /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend --configure |
16:34 | <elocal> | I`m doing that |
16:35 | <elocal> | as root user |
16:35 | <elocal> | I`m going to ru it again |
16:35 | <o_cee> | does the documentation say so? |
16:35 | <elocal> | after I ran mythtv-setup it told me to run that |
16:35 | <sfr> | barney_: here's an alternative grabber for the programm data: http://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/various/xmltv/ . But you need to setup your channels first. |
16:36 | <elocal> | I`m using debian packages with apt-get |
16:36 | <o_cee> | never used them |
16:36 | <elocal> | "apt-get install mythtv" |
16:36 | <elocal> | then run mythtv-setup |
16:37 | <o_cee> | you don't need to tell me how to do it. |
16:37 | <elocal> | sorry, just teling you what I did |
16:38 | <o_cee> | Chutt: should i open up a users channel for "experts" to voulenteer to help others, and users to help each other? |
16:38 | <kvandivo> | by "experts", you mean o_cee, right? |
16:39 | <o_cee> | no, i'm not very good at this. |
16:39 | <o_cee> | why'd you say that anyway? |
16:39 | | * o_cee is back (gone 14:43:22) |
16:40 | <kvandivo> | because it probably isn't likely that any of the other "experts" have nothing better to do than help newbs. |
16:41 | <o_cee> | uhm, you're missing the point. as it is now, "newbs" come _here_ asking for help. with a users channel, there would actually be people willing to help. i don't see you point at all. |
16:41 | <kvandivo> | we all like to be kind, as time permits. But, if you have to choose whether the "experts" are going to write code to make myth better, or help newbs (often by answering the same question repeatedly that could have been found via google, or the docs, etc.. |
16:41 | <o_cee> | lots of points, me is tired and on my way to bed |
16:42 | <o_cee> | that's just what i'm saying. |
16:42 | <o_cee> | it would get all thos questions out of here, and those who _want_ to help can do that. |
16:43 | | * o_cee is away: sleep |
16:43 | <o_cee> | good night, later all. |
16:44 | <sfr> | good night |
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16:46 | <sfr> | thor_: re streaming. be aware that it only knows how to connect to a direct feed, no pls, no redirect, nada. |
16:47 | <thor_> | k |
16:47 | <thor_> | pls? |
16:47 | <thor_> | (I know nothing about streaming) |
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16:47 | <thor_> | (nor much else :-) |
16:48 | <sfr> | some feeds advertise a link to a playlist file containing alternative servers. |
16:48 | <thor_> | ah |
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16:48 | <thor_> | k |
16:48 | <sfr> | like those mp3 playlist files |
16:48 | <thor_> | yup |
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17:03 | <sfr> | thor_: btw, your fix for crazy europeans isn't working. |
17:03 | <kvandivo> | Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. |
17:03 | <thor_> | sfr, sorry .... which one was that |
17:03 | <thor_> | long files? |
17:03 | <thor_> | (time wise) |
17:04 | <sfr> | yes, but maybe its a GUI issue. let me check... |
17:05 | <sfr> | ok, i'll tell you in 59:45 minutes :) |
17:05 | <thor_> | f key? |
17:06 | <thor_> | ah ... stream |
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17:20 | <mikegrb> | kvandivo: awesome quote!! |
17:21 | <mikegrb> | 17:03 <kvandivo> Programming today is a race between software engineers |
17:21 | <mikegrb> | striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and |
17:21 | <mikegrb> | the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So |
17:21 | <mikegrb> | far, the Universe is winning. |
17:21 | <mikegrb> | er sorry |
17:21 | <kvandivo> | http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/computers/ |
17:22 | <sfr> | i remember that with Einstein and the Universe. |
17:22 | <sfr> | s/t about the human stupidity and the size of the universe. |
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18:39 | <davipt> | hello people |
18:39 | <davipt> | what does "prebuffering pause" means in mythfrontend ? |
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19:27 | <tdb30_> | I have a hang in myth the error says WARNING Capture device /dev/dsp is not reporting duplex capability. see docs/mythtv-HOWTO section 18 for mor information |
19:27 | <tdb30_> | but that doc is for dvd stuff with mythtv |
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19:33 | <tdb30_> | what am I missing here? It seems that no mater what computer I put mythtv on the front end hangs after a period of time. |
19:43 | <josephk> | you could try aggressive soundcard buffering |
19:43 | <josephk> | or get a better sound card |
19:45 | <tdb30_> | where would I find the soundcard buffering? |
19:47 | <josephk> | I think it is in General under setup |
19:47 | <josephk> | (within Mythfrontend)\ |
20:13 | <davipt> | damn alsa :( |
20:13 | <davipt> | how do I set alsa in mythbackend ? |
20:15 | <kvandivo> | |
20:20 | <davipt> | uhm, it seems there's only alsa in audiooutput.cpp for frontend :( |
20:25 | <tdb30_> | hey with the new channel changing code does it not send the external command until someone settles on a channel when surfing? |
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20:30 | <tmk> | bbl |
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20:43 | <memzy> | Is MythTV tied heavily to x86? |
21:09 | <tdb30_> | Is it possible to go from live tv, to weather, to news without having to go through the menus? |
21:10 | <tdb30_> | Is there hotkeys? |
21:10 | <tdb30_> | Basicly I'd like to pull up weather during comercial breaks. But I don't want to navigate menues |
21:13 | <davipt> | not easily but it's beeing discussed on mailing list about making that kind of stuff possible :) |
21:14 | <tdb30_> | put my vote in :) |
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21:36 | <kvandivo> | something i've wondered for quite some time now.. in mythweather, why is it that the sequence puts the extended forecast before tomorrow's weather? Seems like it should be the other way around. |
21:38 | <josephk> | I love to know the weather in advance of when I want to know |
21:38 | <josephk> | it |
21:46 | <kvandivo> | meaning that you like to know 'X' before you actually even want to know 'X'? |
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21:54 | <elocal> | Hello ppl |
21:55 | | * kvandivo looks around for ppl. |
21:55 | <elocal> | I want to know why my colors look like black and white(colors doesnt notice a lot) |
21:55 | <elocal> | and my channels do not corespond |
21:55 | <kvandivo> | are you color blind? |
21:55 | | * kvandivo giggles softly to himself. |
21:55 | <elocal> | like channel 63 in my TV is 64 in mythTV |
21:55 | <elocal> | no |
21:55 | <thor_> | possibly you are a sub-primate? |
21:56 | | * thor_ hopes elocal can take a joke |
21:56 | <elocal> | I use do the same in windows and all the colors look allricght, but I don`t like windows a lot |
21:56 | <kvandivo> | i think if you search for 'off by one' in the archives you might find something |
21:56 | <elocal> | xD |
21:56 | <elocal> | ok I will search, but I got to go to bed soon, tomorrow there is school |
21:57 | <kvandivo> | have any tests or homework due? |
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22:02 | <elocal> | homework, but will do it on school |
22:02 | <elocal> | xD |
22:03 | <kvandivo> | gee.. last time I had homework was quite a few years ago. Can't really say I miss it. |
22:08 | <elocal> | CU tomorrow I will be finishing configuring tomorrow, BYEEE |
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