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---Logopened Fri Oct 17 00:00:57 2003
00:01<cmorgan>so apparently you can only load one module at a time
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00:04<mikegrb>that's what it seemed like
00:04<mikegrb>and hacking the source involved making a second copy with a different name and what not
00:05<cmorgan>its an odd restriction
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00:11<cmorgan>i just sent mail to the lirc mailing list
00:13<cmorgan>i'd imagine plenty of people have asked this question although sf's mailing list search isn't finding anything
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01:28<toe>you can build lirc --with-driver=any
01:29<toe>I use a homebrew transmitter and the pvr350 reciever that way
01:29<toe>although I have to load/unload the relevant modules / restart lircd to switch between transmitting and receiving
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01:30<linagee>cool! mythtv asks you "do you want to interrupt livetv so i can record your show?"
01:32<linagee>that's the first time i've seen that feature
01:32<mikegrb>if you aren't around, ie left it on live tv it will go ahead and start recording
01:33<linagee>mikegrb: i was just about to ask what it would do. heh
01:33<linagee>mikegrb: and if you had two encoder cards, no need to even worry. :)
01:33<linagee>argh. mythtv locked up again. this is the part i hate.
01:33<linagee>(very infrequent)
01:34* linagee checks logs
01:36<linagee>weird. that time mythbackend didn't die, so no log. (must be a mythfrontend thing. nothing showed up on it's stdout though....)
01:37<mikegrb>well it's off to bed
01:37* toe is just off to work
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01:49<tmk>warlord: stream type 14 is also known as 'dvd special 2' and is the one the hauppauge drivers use
01:49<tmk>just set it with test_ioctl
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04:42<gerhard>hi all, I made a mistake setting up mysql on redhat, how do I reset mysql so that i can start over?
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11:33<Wulfy>hello folks
11:33<Wulfy>I'm new to Myth and trying to install on RH9
11:36<Wulfy>I've successfully installed apt , and the mythtv suite - and changed the default password on MySQL
11:36<Wulfy>imported the mc.sql
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11:38<Wulfy>how do I configure the backend ?
11:38<Wulfy>I'm kind of at a loss
11:38<Wulfy>anyone alive in here?
11:38<kvandivo>isn't one of the next few steps to run 'setup' (which "configures the backend") ?
11:39<warlord>Yea, run the setup program in the setup directory.
11:39<Wulfy>right - is that
11:39<Wulfy>where is the setup dir by default
11:40<kvandivo>check something like /usr/share/mythtv/setup or something like that..
11:40<kvandivo>barring that, do an updatedb ; slocate setup and look through the output for something that looks right
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11:41<Wulfy>doing the second
11:41<Wulfy>the first didn't exist
11:42<kvandivo>(there's be a lot of 'setup's on your system, so you could probably grep that output for myth to make your life easier
11:42<warlord>I ran it out of the build dir ;)
11:42<Chutt>it's called 'mythsetup' or 'mythtvsetup'
11:42<Chutt>with the rpms
11:42<kvandivo>ya.. i know, war.. but we don't know how he installed.
11:43<Wulfy>I did apt-get install mythtv-suite
11:45<kvandivo>(why is my mind constantly going back to: What's wrong with Wulfy? I can hear him barking. Is he okay?.. Wulfy's fine, honey)
11:46<Chutt>warlord, so, does that mutex i added to audiooutputoss work?
11:47<warlord>Chutt: honestly, I dont know -- I haven't had the chance to pull it down and test it. I was out of town on business on zero notice and I'm still catching up with other work. I'll test is soon.
11:48<warlord>right now my more immediate myth-based task is trying to figure out how to burn a pvr-250 mpeg2-ps stream to a video-dvd.
11:49<Chutt>someone posted how to do that recently on ivtv-dev
11:50<Wulfy>funny Kvandivo
11:50<warlord>yea, i'm trying to track down all the required software.
11:50<Wulfy>ok - so I'm having trouble finding out where to tell mythtv about the password to mysql
11:50<Wulfy>when I try to run it, I'm getting
11:51<Wulfy>somthing about authentication so, I'm assuming this would be my problem
11:51<Wulfy>I changed the default root password
11:51<kvandivo>have you searched the list archives?
11:52<thor_>Chutt, anything I should be doing for 0.12 ?
11:52<Chutt>don't believe so
11:52<Chutt>looks fairly decent
11:52<kvandivo>we want it all, thor_. We want it all, and we want it now.
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11:53* thor_ must learn which buttons to push
11:53<kvandivo>i was going to say.. i didn't intend to make you leave by my joke. ;)
11:54<thor_>kvandivo, most of the weirdness I'm working on will be lucky to make it into 0.13
11:54<kvandivo>ya.. i'm hoping to get the recommendation stuff actually in cvs for 13 also
11:57<Wulfy>kvandivo: ok, so it reads the userid from mysql.txt in the /usr/share/mythtv ?
11:59<kvandivo>well... somewhere around there it should suggest that you put a file in ~/.mythtv called mysql.txt that you use. That's the wise way to do it
12:00<sfr>Chutt: Hi. Are you going to submit Tobias l10n patch and give translators a little time to catch up? Before the release, of course :)
12:00<Wulfy>I've modified the /usr/share/mythv/mysql.txt to use the root:password account for mysql, and when I try to start I get
12:00<Wulfy>Authentication failed
12:01<Wulfy>can't connect to localhost:6543
12:01<kvandivo>6543? try a search for that on the archives
12:02<warlord>6543 is the backend server port, IIRC
12:02<kvandivo>(ya i know.. i'm just wanting to train people to Use The Search, Luke)
12:03<thor_>oh, do we want to try and take out that Qt 3.1 ism on the focus stuff ?
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12:03<hurdel>what release uses DBSchemaVer of 1007?
12:05<hurdel>i'm using cvs from about 6 weeks ago, wondering if i need to upgrade the db now when i upgrade to current cvs
12:06<kvandivo>anyone using cvs really should be on the cvs commit mail list... where it has been reported that you don't need to worry about db upgrades anymore
12:08<hurdel>kvandivo: thanks, i'm currently not on the commit list, i'll join today
12:08<kvandivo>that's wise. it could end up really saving you. if a commit goes in that is unsatisfactory for your situation for some reason, you can plan appropriately, etc
12:09<hurdel>agreed, i just haven't been using it much lately, so been a little out of touch
12:10<hurdel>what's the latest info on converting saved shows into svcd?
12:11<hurdel>that wasn't working last time I checked into it, that's what's keeping me on the fringe I guess, need that feature
12:12<kvandivo>i personally don't know, since that isn't a feature that i track, but i note from the list archives that there are quite a few recent posts with 'svcd' in them
12:16<Chutt>sfr, i was thinking of holding off on that patch
12:16<Wulfy>ok, so I can connect to the mysql if I do: mysql -h localhost -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg
12:16<Chutt>until after the release, as it is quite a bit more for the people translating to do
12:17<Chutt>thor, i dunno
12:17<Chutt>thor, i suppose i should get that fixed to work on 3.0 =)
12:17<mecraw>are traces in the kernel logs helpful at all if mythbackend segfaults?
12:17<thor_>I'll could fix it (iterate over next until last)
12:17<Chutt>if there's a trace in the kernel log, that means your kernel oopsed, and that has nothing to do with mythtv
12:18<Chutt>thor, sure
12:18<Chutt>go for it =)
12:19<sfr>Chutt: hm, but commiting it to CVS wouldn't hurt and give bored translators work to do.
12:20<Chutt>well, whatever =)
12:21<Wulfy>but when I type "mythtv" to run it I get: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason: none of the authentication protocols specified are supported
12:21<thor_>Wulfy, xhost +
12:21<Chutt>why are you typing 'mythtv' to run it?
12:22<Chutt>what part of the docs told you to run 'mythtv'?
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12:33<thor_>hmmm ... iteration thing not so simple ... "There is always a next widget because the list is a loop" .... hmmm ... good old count()
12:33<kvandivo>irc mavens: how tough would it be to write a script that would, when anyone joins a channel, check a list of previously notified users and, if the new user isn't in that list, send them a /msg and then add them to the previously notified list? I'm wondering if it would be at all helpful to send any new user to IRC (that the script hasn't 'seen') a few links.. esr's 'good question' page, the list archives, etc.
12:34<kvandivo>obviously, the 'previously notified' user list could be prefed with the names of those of us that have been here a while
12:34<sfr>what about simply modifying the topic?
12:35<kvandivo>that might work, too
12:35<Chutt>or i could just say this is a tech support free zone =0
12:35<Chutt>err, =)
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12:36<kvandivo>well.. it's the same old story.. offering support isn't always a bad thing of the question isn't something that could have been answered with 5 seconds of searching for an answer
12:36<kvandivo>not that the 'offer' is official, or anything
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12:37<Chutt>tmk, hey, have you updated cvs recently?
12:43<tmk>or myth
12:43<tmk>no, it's a couple weeks old
12:44<tmk>i've been meaning to though
12:44<Chutt>i got the epg in live-tv mode working
12:44<Chutt>for the most part
12:44<tmk>does the ff still update the osd too fast?
12:44<Chutt>it's all transparent and stuff
12:44<thor_>what's something that uses a lot of widgets on a MythPopup Dialog ?
12:44<Chutt>thor, hit 'i' on the playback screen
12:44<thor_>right, ok
12:44<Chutt>and the music stuff's good to test with as well
12:45<thor_>ah yes
12:45<tmk>Chutt: any reason to pause before FF?
12:45<Chutt>tmk, yeah
12:45<tmk>i noticed that when i was going through the code awhile back
12:46<tmk>doesn't seem necssary for ivtv stuff, but if everything else needs it..
12:46<Chutt>though, there's probably not so much reason to do that for ivtv
12:46<tmk>cause if you call unpause after you ff, i don't know if it'll actually BE paused
12:46<tmk>since you just reopened the stream
12:46<Chutt>well, will that hurt anything?
12:47<tmk>doesn't seem to :)
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12:48<Chutt>ever notice some corruption when changing channels?
12:48<tmk>not for a long time
12:48<tmk>in the old decoder code
12:48<Chutt>in the decoder
12:48<tmk>the old decoder code would do it some times
12:48<tmk>like it would get blocky
12:48<tmk>and never get un-blocky
12:48<Chutt>this is displaying old images for a split second
12:49<tmk>oh yeah
12:49<tmk>i do see that
12:49<tmk>i've been meaning to track that down
12:49<tmk>thanks for the reminder
12:49<Chutt>ok, cool.
12:50<tmk>i've been thinking that it might be nice to use the ff feature
12:50<tmk>instead of skipping
12:50<tmk>i suppose i'll need to do that myself though
12:51<tmk>in myth i mean
12:51<Chutt>yeah =)
12:51<tmk>does it have a 'human reaction time' fudge factor built in?
12:51<tmk>ie when you hit play
12:51<tmk>does it rewind a bit
12:51<Chutt>there is that, if you turn it on
12:52<tmk>i'll look into it eventually
12:52<tmk>i've got a lot of todo's
12:52<Chutt>so do i =)
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13:06<Chutt>thor, hey, any luck with that 3.0 fix?
13:06<thor_>I'm distclean, make
13:06<Chutt>ok, cool.
13:07<thor_>but I don't see how it's going to work :(
13:07<thor_>is there some reson we don't just do next() or prev() and be done with it ?
13:07<Chutt>i was just copying what the actual qt stuff did
13:08<thor_>problem is home() is not the same as first()
13:08<thor_>(I think)
13:09<Chutt>right, it's not.
13:10* kvandivo slaps mikegrb with a large tuna.
13:10<thor_>so can't figure out how to get to first() with no first() method
13:10<thor_>but I'm waiting for up to date CVS to build so I can fiddle with it
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13:16<Chutt>thor, just replacing the first/last stuff with next/prev seems to work
13:17<thor_>ah, well that should do it
13:18<Chutt>i'm reinstalling debian on my mini-itx soon, but until then i have 3.0 on there
13:18<Chutt>so i needed to fix that =)
13:18<Chutt>just committed the next/prev stuff
13:18<thor_>k, back to mfd ...
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14:01<poptix>i'm going to try a soekris box
14:01<poptix>heh =)
14:01<poptix>i happen to have some spares laying around
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14:49<warlord>Chutt: I just downloaded current CVS of mythtv and reverted my audiooutputoss patch and it still dies.
14:49<kvandivo>*** - Click to see earlier chat messages, or select Project | Notebook | Chat History from the menu bar.
14:50<kvandivo>Tue 09:41:dagit(Lab book)>Week of 10.06.2003
14:50<kvandivo>Tue 11:36:brandon has added a new file to the BioFS: Marcos Sotomayor - VMD Saved States Eval.doc
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 10:43:mbach(Lab book)>Mike's Progress Report (10/16/2003)
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:25:kvandivo>yes. at server startup. It's a plugin
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:25:rbrunner>okay
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:26:kvandivo>util/config/ConfigPlugIn
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:26:kvandivo>read in via the directives at the end of struts-config.xml
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:27:kvandivo>Basically, AccessPlugin is the gatekeeper for data that is available to all classes everywhere. The other plugins (such as ConfigPlugIn) load in data, and store a 'pointer' to it in the AccessPlugin collection
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:29:rbrunner>I'm adding a getProperty(String key) to use your code snipped to get a key
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:29:kvandivo>to what?
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:29:rbrunner>CollProperties
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:40:kvandivo>ks wants to meet sometime (next tuesday-ish) to discuss biocore stuff.
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:41:kvandivo>anyone have any pressing engagements on their calendar for any times that day?
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:48:mbach>After noon would be best, if we want to attend the ITG forum.
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:49:kvandivo>:) probably won't be but maybe an hour or so
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:49:kvandivo>at any rate.. i'll set something up for afternoon
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:51:mbach>Did he want to discuss anything specific? I assume VMD pub/synch is on the list. Should I give a demo of what we have so far?
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:51:rbrunner>tue is clear
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:51:kvandivo>if we can, that would be good. the new pub/sync was mentioned, yes
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:53:kvandivo>i'm going to have to get a new power strip for the code signing computer. i went to turn it on yesterday and the fuse on it seems to be irreparably sprung
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:55:mbach>Ouch.
14:50<kvandivo>Thu 16:58:rbrunner>from supplying so much current to that ponderous processor
14:51<kvandivo>Thu 16:59:kvandivo>that's the only conclusion i could come up with..
14:51<kvandivo>11:55:kvandivo>derek, you here?
14:51<kvandivo>11:55:kvandivo (PRIVATE TO dagit)>we are doing reappointments, and I need to know what your plans are re: next semester and beyond
14:51<kvandivo>11:56:kvandivo (PRIVATE TO dagit)>last i heard you were planning to be around...
14:51<kvandivo>11:57:dagit (PRIVATE)>that's a good question. I'm seeing a dean later today about a miscalculation in my grad check sheet. I am planning to be around, but I may not be a student for just the spring sem.
14:51<kvandivo>11:58:dagit (PRIVATE)>do you have a deadline/when would you like to know?
14:51<kvandivo>13:31:mbach>rbrunner: Robert, any news on Java3D on the Mac?
14:51<kvandivo>13:31:mbach>Is the official comment on it?
14:51<kvandivo>sorry about that
14:51<kvandivo>my stupid stupid mouse does that from time to time
14:51<warlord>Chutt: I just downloaded current CVS of mythtv and reverted my audiooutputoss patch and it still dies.
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14:52<sfr>kvandivo: yeah yeah, blame that poor little mouse
14:52<Chutt>so, what's the root of that problem, then?
14:52<kvandivo>(glad there wasn't anything 'secret' said in that log..
14:53<Chutt>warlord, i still can't reproduce that at all
14:53<Chutt>tried quite a bit
14:53<warlord>Chutt: I dont know. Are there potentially multiple instances of AudioOutputOSS?
14:54* warlord still has a file that reproduces it 100%
14:54<Chutt>is it really calling killaudio twice?
14:55<warlord>ISTR that yes, it was calling it twice..
14:56<warlord>adding a printf() to be sure.
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14:59<Chutt>tmk, you still here?
15:00<warlord>Hmm, now I can't see to restart the backend..
15:01<warlord>er, ok, maybe the backend just takes a lot longer to startup now.
15:01<Chutt>unless your disk was thrashing or something
15:01<warlord>well, it could be doing that ;)
15:02<warlord>hmm... so my printf() isn't doing anything at all...
15:03<warlord>Or my capture script isn't working....
15:04<warlord>so, here's what I see:
15:04<warlord>Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded
15:04<warlord>Audio has changed: 32000hz mono
15:04<warlord>Killing AudioOutputDSP: 1133718336
15:04<warlord>Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
15:04<warlord>Audio has changed: 48000hz stereo
15:04<warlord>Killing AudioOutputDSP: 1133718336
15:04<warlord>(i'm printing out the pthread id)
15:05<Chutt>tmk, anyway, if you see this, i believe i fixed that FRAMESYNC ioctl error, and just now fixed seeking after a channel change
15:05<Chutt>warlord, ok, so, nothing obviously wrong
15:05<Chutt>except for the change detection
15:05<warlord>then why did my previous patch have any effect?
15:05<Chutt>i have no idea
15:06<Chutt>the mutex should have the identical effect as your patch
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15:06<thor_>hmmm, signal() modifies timeout ... that would explain a lot
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15:09<warlord>Chutt: yea, so something else is going on, but for the life of me I can't figure it out. I could write this data file to a DVD and ship it to you.
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15:12<Chutt>does your original patch still work?
15:12<warlord>Not with the lock around KillAudio, no.
15:12<Chutt>but it works without the lock?
15:12<warlord>Uh, let me check...
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15:15<warlord>Hmm, apparantly not. :(
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15:19<ChrisH>Does anyone know how to get the german TV channels into mythtv? tv_grab_de seems to be broken. I'm a bit stuck at mythfilldatabase
15:20<warlord>Aha.. I got it to do something different!
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15:22<_marc>ChrisH: download
15:23<_marc>it gives an xmltv.tar.gz file with german and french channels
15:23<warlord>If I add a killAudioLock.lock()/unlock() around the pthread_create() then it hangs in AddSamples()
15:23<ChrisH>_marc: tnx, I'll try it
15:25<sfr>_marc: ben buksch grabber for the tvmovie site is also nice.
15:25<sfr>aeh ChrisH: ben buksch grabber for the tvmovie site is also nice.
15:25<ChrisH>sfr: Did you get that to work?
15:25<sfr>works nicely here, yes.
15:25<ChrisH>sfr: Aha. I tried it and only got a "Faulty config"
15:26<sfr>ChrisH: so maybe you should fix it. :) /ducks
15:26<warlord>Chutt: does that shed any light?
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15:33<ChrisH>sfr: If only I knew enough python. Is there no Perl version to fix? :)
15:34<sfr>ChrisH: "Faulty config" seems obvious to me. you really don't need to know python to set it up.
15:38<warlord>Hmm, why am I thinking that there's a pthread bug on RH9?
15:40<ChrisH>sfr: You were right. Just a stupid typo.
15:42<ChrisH>sfr: Now I get a more fancy "Warning: Source file ... had errors, I have to delete it". At least this saves space. :)
15:42<sfr>ChrisH: the only thing i'm missing is an offset parameter, so i'm d/l duplicate data.
15:43<ChrisH>sfr: Isn't "download_days" supposed to be set for that reason?
15:43<sfr>ChrisH: no afaik. e.g. you can't set it to download 4 days of data starting 3 days in the future.
15:44<ChrisH>sfr: I must be doing something wrong that is too stupid to be found. Where does MythTV get its channel data from? Aren't the frequencies saved in the XML files that are fetched?
15:44<sfr>ChrisH: only for the US.
15:44<ChrisH>sfr: And what if I live in your country? How did you set up the channels?
15:45<sfr>ChrisH: you need to setup the channels 'somehow'. somehow = using your .xawtv configuration as a start, or ...
15:45<ChrisH>sfr: That sounds plausible. However my Hauppauge PVR-250 does not work with xawtv. So what about the "or ..."? :)
15:46<_marc>ChrisH: mythfilldatabase --manual
15:46<sfr>ChrisH: hm, you'll have to fetch a channel table from your TV provider (the cable tv company)
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15:47<_marc>will ask you for details about every channel it finds in the MySQL database
15:47<ChrisH>sfr: Unfortunately the _de version is broken. So for Germany there is no supported way to automatically scan for channels.
15:47<sfr>ChrisH: and i'd suggest you add '--preset' to be able to define your prefered channel ordering.
15:47<sfr>ChrisH: no :(. either the xawtv or the manual way.
15:48<ChrisH>sfr: Then the best seems to move to another country. Argh. :)
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15:49<_marc>if you don't want to use the xmltv.tar.gz file, do you have an old BT878 card lying around? If so, use to suck guide data directly out of the TV cable.
15:49<_marc>no internet connection needed at all, and no grabber that can go wron
15:50<ChrisH>_marc: I was already suggested that way. But I only have two MPEG encoding cards lying around.
15:50<sfr>_marc: but that won't set up the channels for him.
15:50<ChrisH>I'd even enter the frequencies manually in the database if that helped.
15:50<_marc>sfr: yes, he'll have to run through the --manual routine once
15:51<_marc>tough luck - so does everybody in europe, I guess
15:51<sfr>ChrisH: it's not that hard even. just run mythfilldatabase --manual --preset.
15:52<_marc>i wasn't aware of the --preset option. need to upgrade one of these days, I guess...
15:52<ChrisH>sfr: Even --manual does not work. I just get an error message telling that the listing server does not serve channel listings.
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15:54<sfr>ChrisH: thinking about it. it may be using a xawtv config file might be the only way defining channels atm.
15:55<ChrisH>Does anyone have an xawtv configuration file for Germany to give me a template?
15:55<sfr>ChrisH: i could send you my xawtv file so you can adapt it and use that.
15:55<ChrisH>sfr: That would be great. Thanks.
15:55<_marc>once you have configured channels, how do you want to pull in EPG information, if your grabber doesn't work?
15:56<ChrisH>_marc: Valid question.
15:57<_marc>so do not focus on finding an xawtv config file, foucs on finding an xmltv source
15:59<sfr>_marc: he can use your grabber, or what i suggested, or write his own...
15:59<_marc>do not fosuc on my orthography, either :-)
15:59<ChrisH>_marc: too much coffee? :)
16:00<_marc>it's 10 PM
16:00<_marc>I was in the office at 7:30 AM this morning
16:00<_marc>and I needed lots to get me through the day :-)
16:06<sfr>ChrisH: got mail?
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16:09<ChrisH>sfr: Yes, thanks. I'm trying to import it.
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16:10<sfr>ChrisH: but you checked the tv channels? they might be different at your location.
16:10<ChrisH>sfr: Of course. I'd be satisfied if MythTV would at least display just one channel.
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16:24<stein>what's the deal with zip/postal code in xmltv? isnt there any way to bypass it for non-us countries?
16:25<sfr>just use the grabber for your country, then.
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16:38<boogee>Hi. Can anyone help me with th TV-out issue?
16:39<ChrisH>sfr: I managed to get xmltv to work. I have imported the data using "mythfilldatabase --file "Tuner 0" 0 all.xml and got no errors. But still there seems to be no channels and information available in MythTV. Feels like my system hates me.
16:39<boogee>when I boot up I see text until X-loads then the screen goes black. It works fine on my CRT monitor?
16:40<boogee> Im using the Tv-out on a Asus Pundit?
16:40<sfr>ChrisH: how exactly did you setup your channels? without channels mythfilldatabase won't import any program data
16:40<boogee>Is there a good mythtv help channel around?
16:41<sfr>boogee: no
16:41<kvandivo>i'd suggest google and the list archives as a good starting point, though
16:41<boogee>Where could I get help with my TV-out issue
16:41<ChrisH>sfr: I ran tvmoviefetch (after I fixed the, ran it and the result was a file called "all.xmltv". I imported that file with the above line.
16:41<boogee>ya I beens searching for awhile
16:41<sfr>ChrisH: but what about your channels?
16:42<ChrisH>sfr: Well... the "channel" table is populated but it lacks the "freqid" columns that hold the tuner information.
16:43<sfr>why does QString::contains(QString("://")) never match? grrr.
16:43* ChrisH yearns for a setup.exe approach :)
16:44<ChrisH>sfr: Aren't the frequencies supposed to be contained in the XML data?
16:44<sfr>ChrisH: no, only in the US.
16:44* ChrisH beats himself
16:46<sfr>Captain_Murdoch: i'd suggest to run mythfilldatabase --preset --manual --xawchannels 1 xawtvfile
16:46<sfr>i hate auto nick-completion
16:46<sfr>ChrisH: i'd suggest to run mythfilldatabase --preset --manual --xawchannels 1 xawtvfile
16:46<sfr>ChrisH to setup your channels
16:47<ChrisH>sfr: sounds like there no way than manually setting up an xawtv file and later merging it manually with the pre-fetched xml data
16:47<sfr>ChrisH: what is --file "Tuner 0" 0 supposed to mean?
16:47<ChrisH>sfr: --file <sourceid> <offset> <xmlfile>
16:48<_marc>ChrisH: running the mythfilldatabase --manual --preset once will be enough
16:48<_marc>once myth knows about the frequencies, all will be good
16:48<_marc>don't make it more difficult than it is :-)
16:49<sfr>ChrisH: no 'later merging' required. channel setup & programm data is separate outside the US.
16:50<ChrisH>_marc: --manual --preset still does not work. It tries to run the grabber but fails.
16:50<sfr>ChrisH: i'd suggest to run mythfilldatabase --preset --manual --xawchannels 1 xawtvfile
16:51<_marc>we,, for good measure add the --file option, too. now that you have an xmltv file
16:51<_marc>and yes, those ,, are supposed to be ll,
16:51<sfr>_marc: NO --file is only meant to import program data. not channels.
16:51<_marc>i was able to get my channels set up with --manual --file
16:52<ChrisH>_marc: The XML import went well using the "--file" option. But that's it.
16:52<_marc>since then i only used file to update
16:52<sfr>_marc: <_marc> don't make it more difficult than it is :-)
16:53<sfr>_marc: hm, did you run --manual --file t.xml and were asked about unknown channels and to add more info (freqid...) for each unknown channel?
16:54<sfr>_marc: then i apologize. i set up my channels long time ago with the xawtv file method.
16:55<_marc>that's what I wanted to do first...
16:55<_marc>before finding out it's not working with a PVR card
16:55<ChrisH>Ah! The -manual -file version looks much more promising.
16:56<sfr>_marc: why wouldn't it work? all you need for that is a xmltv file.
16:56<_marc>no, the xawtv file method wouldn't work for me
16:57<sfr>_marc: ah, ok. misunderstood you.
16:58<_marc>guess I'm misexplaining myself quite successfully this evening
16:59<ChrisH>_marc: Say what? :)
17:00<_marc>don't you joke.:-)
17:07<ChrisH>I never realized how many pay tv channels there are.
17:07<_marc>what country you're in again...?
17:07<ChrisH>_marc: Germany
17:08<ChrisH>_marc: The last country you want to be living in when you are using MythTV
17:08<_marc>how about being able to receive programs from Germany, France, Belgium, national ones, Netherlands, UK....
17:08<ChrisH>_marc: Looking at the trouble I have with the channel settings...
17:09<ChrisH>_marc: Via dish?
17:09<_marc>you never manage to get a grabber for all that
17:09<_marc>nope, cable in the wall
17:09<sfr>ChrisH: everyone outside the US goes through this.
17:09<ChrisH>_marc: I got my cable and that's quite okay.
17:10<ChrisH>sfr: That's the price for the freedom of speech. :)
17:10<sfr>"separates the men from the boys"
17:10<_marc>considering the geek factor of myth, might be more like separating the boys from the men :-)
17:11<sfr>roflol might fit better here.
17:12<_marc>hitting the chair biting the cat
17:13<ChrisH>_marc: Perhaps I take the time to simplify the channel setup. Then the project will be at :)
17:13<_marc>my wife would surely appreciate anything you could do to reduce the time I spend tinkering with Mythtv
17:13<ChrisH>Great... now I have all channels in the database - even those few 99% that I don't receive.
17:14* ChrisH takes a byte of his keyboard
17:14<sfr>_marc: i'm sure you'd find something else to play with.
17:14<_marc>especially since the output on CLE266 is so piss poor that I am not allowed to set it up in the living room yet :-)
17:14<_marc>sfr: sure. she knows, too :-)
17:14<_marc>ChrisH: there was a way to delete those...
17:14<_marc>but I just can't get it together anymore...
17:14<sfr>_marc: really? due to the devel status of the drivers
17:15<_marc>don't know, my knowledge on these things is pretty limited
17:15<ChrisH>_marc: I'll go for "delete from channel where chanid!="" "
17:15<_marc>for the time being I hope that the PVR350 output is better.
17:16<ChrisH>_marc: s/chanid/channum/
17:16<sfr>_marc: you have already set it up?
17:16<_marc>ChrisH: try it. See if it doesn't pull them back in on the next mythfilldatabase
17:16<_marc>sfr: more or less.
17:16<_marc>It works ok, except output is just very bad quality
17:17* sfr thinks tonight this is
17:17<_marc>sicher, kein Problem
17:17<sfr>_marc: don't you say that. i have a pvr350 too.
17:17<_marc>I saw the PVR350 output under Windows, and that's great quality. (the output, not win)
17:18<_marc>misexpressing myself: cle266 is bad for me. PVR350 I haven't tried yet. wanted to wait for .12
17:18<ChrisH>_marc: LOL
17:18<_marc>ChrisH: glad I can brighten your day
17:19<ChrisH>_marc: However I doubt that setting up WinTV on Windows is more complicated than MythTV.
17:20<_marc>I honestly don't know, it wasn't mine :-)
17:20<_marc>in windows, everything is easy except those things you'd expect to work
17:21<ChrisH>Hmmm, shouldn't I be able to switch channels with cursor-[up|down]?
17:21<_marc>look at what mythbackend says.... there's something off in the DB
17:23<ChrisH>_marc: There are lots of wholes in the "chanid"s - do you think that's a problem?
17:24<_marc>I would think so, but my own aquaintance with the DB was never really intimate
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17:50<warlord>Chutt: I think I have another patch that seems to fix the problem, although there is still a small timing race somewhere.
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17:52<warlord>basically, when you're rewinding in NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp, after each rewind you call GetFrame(). The audio is turned off if you're playing slow or fast, but not if you're fast-forwarding or rewinding..
17:52<warlord>The "race" that I'm seeing is a synchronization between the "repeat the Rewind()" and the video player.
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18:00<warlord>Chutt: patch sent to -dev
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19:36<sfr>while making db operations in mythmusic ignore stream urls i also made the 'filename' db field relative to MusicLocation. if all goes well i'll submit a basic patch (with streaming still disabled) in a few days providing a basic framework.
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19:47<thor_>sfr, ah ... good
19:49<thor_>I am an idiot
19:49<thor_>note to self: when debugging audio, work on a machine with speakers plugged in
19:49<sfr>:) that could have been me.
19:49<mikegrb> heh
19:50<thor_>just kept saying to myself, "this should be working"
19:51<sfr>well, i spent 1 hour today wondering why QString::contains never found anything. later i realised that the variable i was testing was still "" at this point. :(
19:52<sfr>but irc is my excuse; i'm not capable of multitasking
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19:58<sfr>thor_: so that mfd will replace mythfrontend eventually?
19:58<thor_>not the GUI, but everything underneath
19:59<thor_>mfd is headless, and automagically knows about all other mfd's (and their services)
19:59<sfr>so for example to be able to play music in the background more work in mythmusic is required?
20:00<thor_>it will be easy (soon)
20:00<thor_>from any mythbox that happens to be plugged int
20:00<thor_>or any iPod
20:00<thor_>or anything with iTunes
20:00<sfr>or anything with a tcp/ip stack? :)
20:01<mikegrb>oh did you use rendevous stuff
20:01<thor_>rendezvous and DAAP
20:01<sfr>is that used by others except apple?
20:01<mikegrb>that's pretty spiffy
20:01<thor_>not many ... but it is so damn useful
20:02<thor_>.... coming ....
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20:02<thor_>(don't hold your breath)
20:02<sfr>so myth2myth is just around the corner. cool
20:02<thor_>yup, that to
20:03<warlord>thor_: what I'd like (for my wife) is to have iTunes control myth -- sending audio from the mac to the myth box..
20:03<thor_>nearly able to play iTunes content from myth
20:04<thor_>or myth content from iTunes
20:04<thor_>but not controlling myth from iTunes
20:05<thor_>though that should be possible ... people are figuring out more about DAAP all the time
20:05<thor_>hmmmm ... dinner
20:06<sfr>enjoy. hmm, sleep
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21:22<warlord>damn... my patch still doesn't solve the problem. I think the real problem is the audio-parameter detection algorithm.
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22:07<davatar>does anyone know why mythweb doesn't work with ssl? Can't information be passed via url?
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