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---Logopened Tue Oct 21 00:00:37 2003
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00:12<beau_>seems my upgrade to 12 resulted in tv tuning no longer working just white-noise, is this a common experience? (Gentoo, ~x86 packages, working wonderfully with 11) I'm investigating the root cause. Seems that it also is not grabbing guide data even though it is present in the db tables. Comments welcome.
00:18<josephk>Chutt: Is that ok?
00:20<josephk>I hope
00:20<josephk>probably points to use error
00:25<solarce>Chutt: I have to say, thanks for writing this wonderful software
00:30<Chutt>josephk, can you get a backtrace of the frontend right after the backend segfaults?
00:31<Chutt>josephk, hit ctl-c on the gdb console you run mythfrontend from
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00:39<tmk>chutt: latest cvs is working pretty well
00:40<Chutt>same here, actually
00:40<Chutt>have you seen that FRAMESYNC error recently?
00:43<tmk>lemme check
00:43<tmk>seems ok
00:43<tmk>though i think i saw it once
00:44<tmk>ff'ding while paused has .. strange effects though
00:44<Chutt>i'm going to fix the program guide to display the other version, too
00:44<Chutt>so it doesn't have the big 'loading preview vid' box
00:45<tmk>yeah i thought that was funny
00:46<tmk>i didn't wait for the preview ;)
00:46<Chutt>like the translucency?
00:46<Chutt>i'm not sure if it's opaque enough
00:46<tmk>yeah my g/f thought it was cool
00:46<tmk>the fonts were way too small though
00:46<tmk>but that's my fault
00:46<Chutt>josephk, nevermind on that backtrace
00:46<Chutt>josephk, just try current cvs
00:47<Chutt>josephk, should be fixed
00:47<josephk>of myth
00:48<josephk>I like the translucency yeah...heh
00:48<beau_>Am I missing a screen that displays the running version of mythtv (and possibly plugins); seems useful when operating in a set-top environment
00:48<clintar>do i need to patch the kernel to get dvb support?
00:48<Chutt>just emailed you, weren't sure if you were still around
00:48<Chutt>beau_, nope, doesn't exist, but that'd be easy to add
00:48<josephk>well I try and get back as much I can...but the wife is pregnant so I get sent places
00:48<beau_>chutt: thanks for clarifying. If I knew how to add it I'd be happy to
00:49<Chutt>an about screen would be pretty useful
00:49<beau_>things like days of guide data left.. yeah
00:50<clintar>i'm trying to emerge with the dvb use flag set, wondered if this should be enough, it emerged the linuxtv-dvb stuff first
00:50<clintar>but the ebuild failed on some dvb reference
00:50<Chutt>clintar, i'm not sure if anyone in here is using the dvb code
00:50<clintar>ok, thought i'd check
00:51<clintar>i'm fine without it
00:51<clintar>so, Chutt, ur the main dev?
00:51<clintar>good job on mythtv :)
00:53<ChaosExiguum>.12 (vs cvs of ~last week) shows my show lengths as about doubble what they should be (pvr350)
00:54<ChaosExiguum>when I ff the timer jumps ahead double, and then back to where it actually should be time-wise
00:56<josephk>damn...I need to find problems Chutt hasn't fixed
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00:57<Chutt>so that worked?
00:57<josephk>still compiling...I'll let you know though:)
00:57<josephk>thanks for being patient with me
01:07<beau_>hrm, getting VIDIOCGCAP:: Invalid argument when I start mythfrontend, any pointers?
01:08<beau_>ack, nm. found it.
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01:16<clintar>oh, i have another question
01:16<josephk>well I made it happen again
01:16<josephk>but I was trying hard
01:16<clintar>anyone know if an nforce2 based video would support XvMC?
01:21<Chutt>josephk, i'll need a similar backtrace, if you don't mind
01:22<josephk>I'll get both...seriously though, I was trying pretty hard
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01:47<mikegrb>Chutt: debian has /etc/cron.daily/ for system cront jobs right? Working on some docs
01:49<beau>mike: appears so from googled evidence
02:01<Chutt>josephk, try upgrading to current cvs again
02:01<Chutt>should really fix it this time
02:03<beau>*sigh* been living on OTA for 16 mos, now 32hours to satellite. <grin> put this box to use.
02:07<beau>indeed! heh. nm me then. ;-)
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02:35<DogBoy>is there anything written about suggested settings for transcoding?
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03:04<jcw>Anyone have an idea why not a single mailing list email has made it to me today?
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03:23<josephk>looks pretty well fixed Chutt:)
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09:15<DogBoy>after transcoding there are a bunch of .nuv.old files, do these get erased later?
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09:33<o_cee>anyone who's using PurpleGalaxy?
09:33<o_cee>the theme that is
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14:59<jcw>Can anyone tell me if the mailing list server is having issues?
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14:59<jcw>I haven't got any list messages from mythtv-users in 24+ hours
14:59<jcw>But I have received messages from mythtv-dev...
15:00<jcw>(and I see on gossamer that there certainly has been activity on mythtv-users)
15:00<beau>send the list processor a command to checkyour status, it might have put you into suspend mode if mail was bouncing
15:00<jcw>I've looked over my logs, and nothing indicates any connection attempts, but I'll try that
15:00<beau>well knowing your status onthe list is key
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15:02<jcw>How does one 'send the list processor a command to check your status'?
15:06<beau>I don't know, I don't use the lists presently. depends on the list processor in use.. cren or mailman etc.. you'd have to find that out then send the admin address the command
15:06<jcw>never mind, I appear to have been disabled due to excessive bounces on the 19th, according to the mailman web interface...
15:07<beau>there you go
15:07<beau>fancy pants mailman with it's web interface ;-)
15:07<jcw>Not sure how that happened, but...
15:07<beau>dns failure maybe?
15:07<beau>would explain lack of connection attempts
15:09<jcw>No, I think it was due to a spell of non-Internet connectivity
15:09<jcw>I need to look further back in my logs also.
15:10<beau>hrmm your MXes should be holding and attempting delivery for some time before it bounces in that case-- a very recoverable situation
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15:13<jcw>Hm... Okay, yeah, I haven't looked at my backup MX logs...
15:13<jcw>I know the connection to the primary was down for a while the other night, but I don't think the secondary was down too...
15:14<solarce>so, who is using the via epia platform for a stand alone or settop style mythtv box?
15:14<beau>stupid tv news.. story about a guy who dove off 180foot falls (I think Niagra) then climbed to some rocks unhurt (insert footage of wet black man standing on rocks) then hard cut to police walking with arrested man, and voice over explaining that the guy was arrested.. the man walking tried to conceal his identity with a sheet over his head but you could see his chest and arms, caucasian guy. Gotta love the fake footage in one part o
15:16<solarce>I was just interested in chatting with someone about their ongoing experience with it
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15:18<jcw>Aha! Backup MX shows connection attempt, failure to deliver to the backend mail server, then bounce message. Only 1 though...
15:18<jcw>Something isn't right on my backup mx...
15:21<jcw>beau, thanks for the nudge in the right direction
15:22<jcw>I'm off to muck w/my secondary mx's config...
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16:10<gerhard>hi all, any suggestion for a remote control I can use with pvr250, tha black one does not have enough buttons for mythtv
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18:20<thor_>flac decoder defines VORBISDECODER_H_
18:20<thor_>wonder how long that's been there ?
18:21<warlord-afk>no clue.
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18:22<warlord>something else annoying I noticed -- when I use ffmpeg to transcode an MPEG stream it swaps the video and audio streams, so some other programs dont like the resulting file.. :(
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18:22<thor_>warlord, just switch your eyes and ears around
18:23<warlord>that's fine for me -- doesn't help with dvb-mplex so I can write the file to a video-dvd
18:23<jkolb>Swaps them how?
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18:24<warlord>In the original file, stream 0.0 is video, 0.1 is audio.. In the ffmpeg-created file, stream 0.0 is audio and 0.1 is video
18:24<jkolb>This is in nuv-land, I guess?
18:25<warlord>nope, mpeg-land
18:26<jkolb>Transport stream or something?
18:26<warlord>Nope, mpeg2-ps
18:26<jkolb>They don't share a numbering space. They should each be stream 0.
18:27<thor_>so does cddecoder.h
18:29<warlord>thor_: I've been trying lots of different software to transcode my video down to a smaller encoding, but nothing appears to work right. I can use dvb-mplex directly on my pvr output, but not after I transcode with ffmpeg down to a reasonable stream size.
18:30<warlord>jkolb: I'm only going on what ffmpeg gives me. On my input file it says:
18:30<warlord>Input #0, mpeg, from '../video/perry-on-cnnfn-2.mpg':
18:30<warlord> Duration: 00:07:32.4, bitrate: 8720 kb/s
18:30<warlord> Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 720x480, 29.97 fps, 16000 kb/s
18:30<warlord> Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s
18:30<warlord>on the generated file I get:
18:30<warlord>Input #0, mpeg, from 'perry-ffmpeg.mpg':
18:30<warlord> Duration: 00:07:32.2, bitrate: 5061 kb/s
18:30<warlord> Stream #0.0: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s
18:30<warlord> Stream #0.1: Video: mpeg2video, 720x480, 29.97 fps, 8000 kb/s
18:30<warlord>notice the difference?
18:39<thor_>warlord, sorry ... I know nothing about ffmpeg .... I'll be getting to it at some point (internal transcoding) ... but I'm not there yet
18:39* warlord nods
18:39<warlord>well, thor_, when you get to it -- let me know if you figure it out :)
18:39<warlord>I'll note that I'm not trying to do internal transcoding..
18:40<warlord>I'm happy to do it by hand after the fact.
18:41<thor_>yes, but better for there to be one worked out way to do it ... especially if you can transparently do it across myth boxen
18:42<warlord>I'm just surprised in the lack of software to author dvds on linux.
18:43<josephk>bah...I'd rather author them on my Mac;)...hehe
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18:44<D-side>warlord: i agree.
18:44<D-side>I'd love to get a pvr250 and just dump the mpeg2 to dvd-rs.
18:44<warlord>D-side: that's my intention, but.... a lot easier said than done.
18:45<D-side>warlord: i know it.
18:45<warlord>Or at least easier said than done if you want to transcode the pvr output..
18:46<warlord>the direct output is apparantly ok, but I record at 16kpbs off the pvr and want to transcode down to 8 to print onto a dvd.
18:46<D-side>i was under the impression that since its straight mpeg2, if i capture at 720x480 i'd be okay with the regular output
18:46<warlord>720x480 is only part of the problem -- there is also the issue of bitrate
18:47<warlord>dvd's have a limited acceptable bitrate
18:47<D-side>this is where my ignorance shows
18:47<warlord>assuming you want your video to play on a standard player...
18:47<D-side>yeah i would. know of a url that explains the necessary specs?
18:48<warlord>not off the top of my head.. there is something like
18:48<D-side>i'm looking at's faq now
18:49<warlord>Thats probably what I'm thinking of
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18:50<warlord>strangely, although ffmpeg works on pvr output 'transcode' apparantly does not.
18:52<thor_>warlord, transcode seems to have a lot of implicit PAL'isms in it
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18:54<warlord>thor_: yea, I've noticed..
18:55<warlord>And there doesn't appear to be a way to convince it otherwise in all cases, as far as I've noticed.
18:55<warlord>but for some reason it can't even demux the ntsc pvr output
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18:57<D-side>dont suppose theres an eta for the rh9 rpms
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18:58<jkolb>warlord: Sorry, was out getting dinner. It must have just started the stream off with an audio packet instead of a video packet or something.
18:59<jkolb>Can you make like the first k or so or each file available?
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19:00<warlord>jkolb: sure. How about the first 64k?
19:00<jkolb>Sounds fine.
19:00<chiller>Anyone: What's the go with the debian 0.12 release? I hear it's gonna be a while?
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19:02<warlord>jkolb: ok..
19:02<warlord>you'll see two files there.
19:03<warlord>the original, and the output from ffmpeg
19:03<jkolb>Got em
19:06<jkolb>Yeah, the ffmpeg one has an audio packet before the first video packet.
19:07<jkolb>Why that would screw up a decoder, I don't know.
19:07<warlord>I dont know, but dvb-mplex doesn't like it.
19:12<warlord>I've got another show where I've got 2 MPGs (the original and the ffmpeg-transcoded version), and then I've got the dvb-mplex temp-files from both. the temporary audio file from the ffmpeg-transcoded file isn't recognizable, but all others are..
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19:12<warlord>jkolb: would you like me to provide any of that data to you?
19:13<jkolb>I'm just looking at the program stream headers of the files you sent me right now.
19:15<jkolb>Hm. The pack header at the very beginning of the ffmpeg file seems to be corrupt.
19:16<warlord>how is it corrupt?
19:16<jkolb>It's only 12 bytes long, first off. A pack header has to be at least 14 bytes. The marker bits aren't set properly, either.
19:17<warlord>Well, I'm looking at ffmpeg/libavformat/mpeg.c:put_pack_header() right now...
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20:02<N0C>hey there
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20:34<robertj>any news on debs for .12?
20:36<D-side>none. i think the packager is having problems
20:36<D-side>from things i've seen here, i'm assuming his main development box is offline
20:36<D-side>i'm just waiting for the rh9 rpms. :)
20:36<josephk>mandrake 9.1 RPM
20:36<josephk>'s are up
20:36<josephk>like clockwork
20:37<D-side>i'm a complete pussy for not going with sid
20:37<D-side>but i tried a dist-upgrade from a clean woody install and it crapped its pants
20:37<D-side>like, bad
20:38<D-side>afk a bit
20:38<josephk>you should get "oops my distro crapped it's pants"
20:38<josephk>oops my distro crapped its pants can hold a lot of dung
20:38<D-side>thats an actual song?!
20:38<robertj>Deside: any talk yet of Fedora RPMS?
20:39<D-side>none that i've heard of
20:39<D-side>but to my knowledge, fedora isnt a full fledged distro yet
20:39<D-side>last i saw it was just a rebranded RH beta.
20:40<D-side>to be fair.
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20:40<robertj>It's freezing before the end of the month
20:41<josephk>its an SNL commercial
20:41<D-side>robertj: shows how much i know
20:41<D-side>well that'll be interesting anyway
20:41<josephk>my distro is wearing "oops my distro crappy its pants"...and it just did
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20:58<D-side>so while i wait for my new IR blaster, what else should the mythtv box run besides the backend?
20:58<D-side>i'm sharing the videos via samba
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21:03<N0C>hey D-side
21:04<D-side>hey. try the ir blaster stuff?
21:05<N0C>yep... I got a new universal remote and got all the config files built... controlling mythtv works perfectly but i hit a snag with tx
21:07<N0C>the program that gets called to change the channel (rc) has the same name as something else in gentoo
21:08<N0C>when I type "rc" in gentoo it launches some executable that has something to do with rc files
21:09<N0C>as in: * ERROR: runlevel SEND_ONCE does not exist; exiting...
21:09<N0C> * ERROR: runlevel SEND_ONCE does not exist; exiting...
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21:10<N0C>so gentoo's "rc" somehow configures or starts runlevels
21:10<jkolb>Can't you just set the full path for the rc it needs to call?
21:10<D-side>i run gentoo and i didnt even know that
21:11<N0C>... but when I "man rc" I get the man page for the lirc "rc"
21:11<D-side>that or rename the rc you want
21:11<D-side>so "which rc"
21:11<D-side>i'm burning a dvd in windows or i'd check my gentoo setupwith you
21:11<jkolb>Are you running as root or something? I'd expect the rc that controls runlevels to be in /sbin
21:12<D-side>i'd agree with that completely
21:12<N0C>yeah... running as root
21:12<D-side>well dont do that
21:12<N0C>problem is.. i can't even find the lirc "rc"
21:12<D-side>but whats the output of "which rc" anyway
21:13<N0C>where is it?
21:13<D-side>use qpkg to list the contents and paths of the lirc install
21:13<N0C>(the lirc rc)
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21:14<N0C>great... qpkg not installed
21:14<jkolb>ls /bin/rc; ls /usr/bin/rc; ls /usr/local/bin/rc
21:14<jkolb>See if any of those print something.
21:15<N0C>ok just a sec
21:15<D-side>if he's root, which should have found those for him
21:15<jkolb>Those come before /sbin in root's path?
21:15<jkolb>which only prints the first match.
21:15<D-side>i was completely unaware of that fact
21:16<D-side>thanks for that though
21:16<N0C>"/usr/local/bin/rc" is there
21:16<D-side>well color me stupid
21:16<N0C>I guess that's it
21:16<jkolb>That's lirc's rc, then.
21:16<D-side>ah, -a will display all
21:16<N0C>I'll put the whole path in the script
21:17<jkolb>D-side: Didn't know that. Learn something new and all that..
21:17<N0C>thanks guys...
21:17<D-side>jkolb: looks like we both benefit from that. heh
21:17<thor_>Chutt, you about ?
21:20<D-side>oh son of a bitch. i accidently deleted my confirmation email for the ir blaster purchase.
21:20<D-side>i just know i'm going to be F'ed by the yahoo store
21:21<jkolb>Use IMAP! Then it's not really deleted.
21:21<D-side>netscape webmail. :/
21:22<D-side>thats WHY i chose the webmail account.. so i wouldnt lose it.
21:22<D-side>today has just sucked
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21:26<D-side>oh good, it was in the trash
21:26<D-side>i'm so not used to that anymore.
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22:06<jradford>i just had to reinstall my myth box, I used the latest xmltv (from the docs) and it's really messing up... any known issues with it?
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22:47* Pedersen waves, and wonders if anybody is awake?
22:48<Pedersen>Pretty please? Not new to myth (since I wrote mythmkmovie), but am having real issues with 0.12, and need some help desparately?
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22:50<Pedersen>Yay! How you doing thor?
22:50<thor_>what's the problem?
22:50<Pedersen>Short version: No recording is happening at all, and every time I try, CPU usage jumps to 90% and up.
22:51<thor_>bttv ?
22:51<Pedersen>Cool? That's a new definition of cool for me :) Yep, bttv.
22:51<thor_>automagic database upgrades changes the profiles I think ...
22:51<Pedersen>Did I miss something in the docs that I'm going to kick myself for missing?
22:51<thor_>have you had a look at those ?
22:52<Pedersen>Yep, they do. I re-ran setup, took out the old card setups, and then re-ran the recording profiles setup, to check them out. Everything SEEMS okay to me.
22:52<thor_>you know any SQL ?
22:53* Pedersen nods. Rather good at it. What settings you need me to find?
22:53<thor_>(you can always check what's in the database, but sounds like it's right)
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22:54<Pedersen>I'm pretty sure it is. I even went so far... Well, wait a minute, technically, I didn't reset every option maually... Maybe that's worth a try?
22:54<thor_>not sure ... show tables .... videosource and recordingprofiles I think, but I don't have an 0.12 handy
22:55<thor_>live tv working ?
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22:56<Pedersen>Nope, live tv is dead, same issues.
22:56<Pedersen>Existing recordings work fine. I'll check those two tables real quick, and see what I can see.
22:56<thor_>dead as in nothing .... or dead as in system bogs down
22:59<Pedersen>Oh, sorry, to define dead: CPU usage goes to 100%, screen goes black. However, I AM able to continue to use the system. And if I kill mythfrontend and mythbackend, cpu usage drops to 0% again.
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23:01<Pedersen>mythfrontend appears to be hung. In a terminal window for mythfrontend, I see the following message (manymanymany times): "Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!" and, on occasion, I see the following message: "Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again..."
23:01<Pedersen>And, note that killing mythfrontend does NOT end 100% cpu usage. I have to kill mythbackend for that to happen.
23:01* Pedersen waves to bishop1.
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23:04* Pedersen found (and filled) a lot of null settings in recordingprofiles, and has sinced filled those in with appropriate defaults (mpeg-4 where possible, and mp3 for audio)... just had a thought for this ...
23:06<Pedersen>Nope, that wasn't it. I still had older versions of libmyth around. blew them away, and re-ran ldconfig. still same symptoms.
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23:07<Pedersen>Kind of ironic in some ways: I had an easier time of it with 0.7 than I did with this :(
23:08* Pedersen takes a breath. Sorry about that, I can tend to ramble on on occasion.
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23:13* Pedersen downgrades to 0.10.
23:17<Pedersen>Shame, though. Was kinda looking forward to built in DVD player.
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23:24<Pedersen>Okay, I could be just a huge honking idiot, but how do I specify which recording profile to use for, well, anything?
23:25<mikegrb>advanced recording options screen
23:25<mikegrb>oh in .10
23:25<mikegrb>not sure about that
23:27<Pedersen>I've GOT to use 0.12. Downgrading loses all my to-be-recorded shows.
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23:28<Pedersen>And I'm about to lose a recording that should start in 3 minutes, but won't, because this upgrade is hosed for me.
23:28<josephk>well recording profiles changed completely didn't they
23:29<Pedersen>Yes, they did. And, believe it or not, I'm okay with that. I've completely removed my old recording profiles, and completely removed my old capture card setups, etc. And re-created in 0.12. And watched my machine lose all ability to record.
23:30<josephk> back:)
23:31<Chutt>wipe your database and start clean.
23:31<Pedersen>Please tell me you're joking.
23:31<josephk>sounds like a plan
23:31<Chutt>you probably fucked it up by editing things manually.
23:32<Pedersen>Thanks for the confidence in my abilities. You're right, though, typing in 'update recordingprofiles set videocodec="MPEG-4" where videocodec is null' would have completely fucked things up.
23:32<Pedersen>Especially since the problem existed BEFORE I ever tried that.
23:32<Chutt>all i've seen is aimless bitching so far
23:33<Chutt>i would wipe the db and start fresh
23:33<Chutt>if you don't want to do that, don't ask for help
23:33<josephk>well Pederson can always back up his old db before he wipes
23:34<Pedersen>Tell you what, I'll do that. I'll back it up first, as a just in case.
23:34<Chutt>the 'audio buffer overflow' error indicates that it can't write to the soundcard
23:34<Chutt>which is _likely_ a recording profile issue
23:34<Chutt>if it's got bad data in there
23:35<thor_>Chutt, are gContext getSettings() thread safe ?
23:36<Chutt>they're locked
23:36<Chutt>uses the same db connection, though, so it just serializes things
23:36<thor_>right, ok
23:36<thor_>no problem then even with default values
23:42<josephk>I don't know...something tells me Chutt is either really sarcastic IRL...or really not.
23:44<josephk>incase you're wondering...I was being really sarcastic
23:44<Pedersen>Wow... Talk a bout a shock... "drop database mythconverg;" mysql <mc.sql, setup, mythbackend, mythfrontend, configure profiles to use mpeg-4, and... same thing...
23:44<Chutt>pedersen, libs/libmyth/audiooutputoss.cpp
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23:46<josephk>MythTV Tip of the day: Don't end up in prison.
23:46<Chutt>i'd also just double check that the sampling rates are correct
23:46<pmowry>hehe,has thatbeen a problem lately?
23:46<Pedersen>And, just for good measure, I also tried using rtjpeg. Hmmm, Chutt, did you read both of my error messages that I was getting? Here's the second (repeated for benefit now): Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again...
23:47<Chutt>right, but you only get that occasionally, you said
23:47<Pedersen>sampling rates, in the profiles, are all set to 32000 for mp3, and 2200 for mpeg-4, rtjpeg quality is all 170.
23:47<Chutt>i really don't know what else it could be
23:48<josephk>well I get that all the time, and it generally doesn't help to figure it out either
23:48<Chutt>did you compile with debugging and have a slower machine?
23:48<Chutt>ie, to slow to run without mmx turned on
23:48<Pedersen>All is compiled on the 1.3Ghz athlon.
23:48<Chutt>might be dropping massive amounts of frames
23:49<Chutt>there's no error before all that, right?
23:50<Pedersen>:re-reads... lots of those two errors...
23:50<Pedersen>"taking too long to be allowed to read"
23:51<pmowry>Sorry to jumpinon a silly question, but do you still need to comment out return false to enable the PVR-350 TV-out in the latest cvs?
23:51<Chutt>right, but you wouldn't be getting the audio error if that was the cause
23:51<beau>wow, huge score for NY
23:51<Chutt>pmowry, no, it's a config setting
23:52<pmowry>Chutt: Thanks, I'll find it.
23:52<Chutt>playback section
23:52<Chutt>and you're not enabling the tv out, you're enabling the decoder
23:52<beau>pedersen: check your lspci output for resource conflict (auto assigned perhaps or lack of must mastering on shared irq)
23:52<Chutt>tv-out's automatic
23:53<Pedersen>It's worth noting that I'm getting no audio, and no video, from watching live tv. Point tvtime at the same device, and it works. Point 0.10 at the device, and it will work (just the settings are all wacked).
23:53<thor_>Pedersen, you using native alsa by any chance ?
23:54<beau>thor_: what's native alsa vs. some other kind of alsa? (url/reference?)
23:54<Pedersen>I am.
23:54<Pedersen>Well, mythtv is pointing at /dev/dsp
23:54<Chutt>then it's not =)
23:54<thor_>Pedersen, uncommented in settings ?
23:55<Pedersen>oh god... please don't tell me i'm just a fucking moron....
23:55<thor_>beau, alsa interface to sound card within myth
23:55<Pedersen>brb, idle for a sec...
23:55<thor_>heh, whadda ya know ?
23:56<thor_>iTunes on Windows does not like 802.11b base hop
23:56<thor_>but plug in ethernet, and you can actually play mp3's from a myth server
23:56<josephk>base hopping?
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23:57<thor_>I dunno .... I think Rendezvous stuff doesn't think anything beyond the base is local. net
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23:57<josephk>no I don't think it does
23:57<thor_>(does an 802.11b access point require a TCP/IP header rewrite?)
23:57<beau>thor_: is the w-lan on a different subnet, I thought the itunes stuff was all based on ip subnet....
23:58<thor_>no, it's broadcast on anything that doesn't require a router hop
23:58<beau>thor_: in AP mode, I don't see why, in othermodes I would expect so)
23:59<thor_>I probably have the thing configure wrong
23:59* Pedersen begins rebuilding mythtv with alsa turned on this time. i'll be quiet for a bit.
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