| --- | Log | opened Wed Oct 22 00:00:22 2003 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Oct 22 2003 |
| 00:00 | <Pedersen> | There are times I regret building alsa. Seems to create more problems than it's worth. |
| 00:01 | <josephk> | MythTV: It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then, it's hilarious. |
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| 00:01 | <Pedersen> | josephk: Those from mythweb? |
| 00:02 | <josephk> | no |
| 00:02 | <josephk> | I'm just making stuff up |
| 00:02 | <josephk> | its fun |
| 00:02 | <Pedersen> | Ah, okie. |
| 00:02 | <josephk> | I'm sure I've heard it before though...hehe |
| 00:03 | <davatar> | I'm getting some sort of wierd database problem.. transcode fails with "aborted because of cutlist update", if I make any manual edits to the "recorded" table (no real change) backend/frontend give an error saying it can't find that .nuv file (even though the filename it prints is OK). |
| 00:04 | <beau> | is the .nuv file present in your recordings dir? |
| 00:04 | <josephk> | #MythTV: "What is this a techsupport line?" -Chutt |
| 00:04 | <davatar> | yes, that never changes. if I destroy the db and reload from backup, I can view the filename again. |
| 00:05 | <davatar> | josephk: this is a bug.. |
| 00:05 | <josephk> | davatar: not directing towards you...just reminded me of something funny:) |
| 00:05 | <davatar> | ok.. |
| 00:06 | | * beau wonders if the autoexpire hits and the limits are such that the existing recording must be deleted to comply with settings. just not enough free space to do what you have setup |
| 00:07 | <davatar> | eh, 65gb? |
| 00:08 | <davatar> | something is definatley strange. i.e. I go into mysqlcc and change "editing" colum for one recording from "0" to "0". go back to mythfrontend, try and play video "/mnt/myth/etcetcetc.nuv" not found, where filename exists, exactly. |
| 00:08 | <Pedersen> | ~:ahs, davatar... |
| 00:09 | <Pedersen> | I've seen something similar in the past, and it's a factor of how mysql behaves. |
| 00:09 | <Pedersen> | here's what you do: read the starttime for the row, and then update editing (from 0 to 0), and check the starttime again. |
| 00:10 | <davatar> | ok, let me restore my backup and try.. |
| 00:11 | <davatar> | btw, does mysql store usernames? |
| 00:12 | <Captain_Murdoch> | beau, I think that if that happened, it should just stop the recording. The auto-expire stuff uses the same delete function as is normally used by the backend when you delete a recording interactively. |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | need to update the starttime when you change stuff in the record table |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | since it's a timestamp type |
| 00:13 | <beau> | Captain_Murdoch: thanks for clarifying, the thought crossed my mind while I was setting up but I wasn't about to setup the situation to test outcomes |
| 00:13 | <davatar> | Pedersen: no changes in the table, I even tried re-writing the 'old' starttime. |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | if you don't, it changes to the current time |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | and thus you get the 'file not found' stuff, since it's looking for the wrong filename. |
| 00:13 | <davatar> | Chutt: update to what? I copy/pasted the old value in. |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | ... set starttime = starttime ... |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | whenever you change anything in the recorded table manually |
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| 00:16 | <Pedersen> | Chutt, my readings of what was happening had something to do with the fact that the column was named starttime? Did I just misunderstand? |
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| 00:18 | <davatar> | Pedersen: That worked, but it also flew over my head.... |
| 00:19 | <Pedersen> | davatar: Tell me the title and subtitle of a row in your recorded table, and I'll tell you the commands you can run to see what's been talked about. |
| 00:19 | <davatar> | anyways, on to the root of the problem, I should only receive a "Transcoding .. aborted because of cutlist update: if editing=1? |
| 00:19 | <davatar> | ok |
| 00:20 | <davatar> | Angel:Conviction |
| 00:20 | <beau> | it's so over for the marlins atthis point excellent game tho |
| 00:21 | <thor_> | http://www.sigvaldason.com/itunes.png |
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| 00:22 | <Captain_Murdoch> | davatar: I think you'll get that also if a -3 type record (MARK_UPDATED_CUT) is inserted into recordedmarkup for that recording which I know happens at the end of commercial flagging. |
| 00:22 | <Pedersen> | davatar 'select starttime, editing, title, subtitle from recorded where title="angel" and subtitle="conviction"' |
| 00:23 | <Pedersen> | davatar 'update recorded set editing=editing where title="angel" and subtitle="conviction"' |
| 00:23 | <Pedersen> | davatar (re-run that select) |
| 00:23 | <Pedersen> | You'll see that starttime is now a different value than when it started. |
| 00:24 | <davatar> | Captain_Murdoch: I saw this http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/Transcoding_aborted_because_of_cutlist_update_P83010/, No -1 or -3 for m, all 3 and 7, and all chanid 1012 (wtf? |
| 00:26 | <davatar> | Pedersen: nope :) mysqlcc would have showed that too, didn't.. |
| 00:26 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, the -1 indicates that commercial flagging is running, -3 is something the transcode guy added to indicate that transcoding would need to be rerun for some reason. |
| 00:26 | <davatar> | Pedersen: needed number in quotes for editing=.. ok |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | pedersen, naw, it's because the starttime column is a timestamp, and the first timestamp in a row gets updated to the current time anytime something is modified, unless you override that behavior |
| 00:28 | <davatar> | Captain_Murdoch: I don't see how that is possible, as ProgramInfo::IsEditing() only seems to check "editing" from "recorded" |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, did you see that patch of david engel's? |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | thor, so it's sharing both ways? |
| 00:29 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, yeah. was trying to think of a cleaner way but haven't come up with anything yet. |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | figured that that was your code originally, so =) |
| 00:29 | <Pedersen> | Okay, rebuilt using alsa. Still getting same behaviors :( |
| 00:29 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I like the concept though. been wanting to solve that problem for a while. |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | pedersen, yeah, that's not it, as it doesn't use the alsa output stuff unless specifically told to |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | what's the _first_ error you get? |
| 00:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, did he do any of the themes? |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | haven't looked at anything but the email |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | been busy with stuff |
| 00:30 | <Pedersen> | Here's some copy/paste from mythfrontend output... |
| 00:30 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:26:25 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| 00:30 | <Pedersen> | mythtv: could not open config file |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | mythtv: No such file or directory |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | Failed to init /home/marvin/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'. |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | Over/underscanning. V: 0.000000, H: 0.000000, XOff: 0, YOff: 0 |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | Using XV port 69 |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | Changing from WatchingPreRecorded to None |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | Changing from None to None |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| 00:31 | <Pedersen> | (above repeated 5 more times) |
| 00:32 | <Pedersen> | Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'. |
| 00:32 | <Pedersen> | Over/underscanning. V: 0.000000, H: 0.000000, XOff: 0, YOff: 0 |
| 00:32 | <Pedersen> | Using XV port 69 |
| 00:32 | <Pedersen> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 00:32 | <Pedersen> | And then nothing, complete hang of mythfrontend, and mythbackend is using 90%+ of cpu |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | and errors from the backend? |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | c/p from mythback follows |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | ----- |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | Starting up as the master server. |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:25:02 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:25:05 Found changes in the todo list. |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:25:34 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:25:34 adding: eddie as a player 1 |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:25:59 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:25:59 adding: eddie as a player 1 |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:26:56 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:26:56 adding: eddie as a player 1 |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:27:41 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:27:41 adding: eddie as a player 0 |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:27:41 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:27:41 adding: eddie as a player 0 |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:27:41 adding: eddie as a remote ringbuffer |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:27:41 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:28:40 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| 00:33 | <Pedersen> | ----- |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | turn on verbose mode |
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| 00:36 | <Chutt> | for the backend, that is |
| 00:36 | <Pedersen> | Okay, --verbose to mythbackend shows nothing different. Paramaters for --verbose? |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | it's in --help, i don't know offhand |
| 00:37 | <Pedersen> | It's worth noting that, following the audio troubleshooting docs on the website, I fire up tvtime (not xawtv, since that has been known to lock up due to the all-in-wonder card), and use aplay, and sound works as described at http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-20.html#Troubleshooting_Audio |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | recordings play back ok? |
| 00:40 | | * Pedersen will guess that this is the section you're looking for (taken from the end of the output, when I was trying to watch live tv just now), using --verbose all |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:03 Found changes in the todo list. |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 adding: eddie as a player 1 |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 2 OK |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 24 1[]:[]127.0.0.1[]:[]6543 |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | older ones, that is |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 adding: eddie as a player 0 |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 2 OK |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 92 rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/vidcap/vidcap/ringbuf... |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 adding: eddie as a player 0 |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 2 OK |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 adding: eddie as a remote ringbuffer |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 2 OK |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 Using profile 'Live TV' to record |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 2 ok |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 1 1 |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:09 5 29.97 |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:20 1 0 |
| 00:40 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:30 1 0 |
| 00:41 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:41 1 0 |
| 00:41 | <Pedersen> | 2003-10-22 00:39:41 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| 00:41 | <Pedersen> | And yes, recordings that were done before playback okay. Color is off, but that's a setting I can adjust, so I'm not worried about that. |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | i'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | probably should compile in debug mode and see what thread is taking up 100% cpu |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | it is only one, right? |
| 00:42 | | * Pedersen nods. Gets onto getting debug mode going. |
| 00:42 | <Chutt> | you know how to use gdb enough to figure out how to do that? =) |
| 00:43 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, I'll think about that patch and see if I can think of a cleaner way. he's just expanding on it, leaves oriiginal method of just %DESCRIPTION% intact. I assume the programinfo::tostringlist mod is out though the way it is because it uses ?: operators which I think you don't prefer. do you think that function is ok as is or should it be fixed to not modify data? |
| 00:43 | <Pedersen> | Yes. As I've tried to explain, I'm not an idiot (hell, I can read quadruply indirected pointers in my head). I just was hoping that this was something which could be fixed before needing to do that. |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | i'm fine with the programinfo mod |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | it doesn't really matter for that function |
| 00:45 | <pmowry> | Why do I make things difficult... Spent 20 minutes looking for a playback section of configfile,instead ofjust going to settingsin mythfrontend. |
| 00:45 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok. when I do something with the regex stuff I'll look over and commit the programinfo stuff as well then. |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, thanks =) |
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| 01:04 | <Pedersen> | Rather annoying with that... Getting short reads from /dev/dsp, but that's all I'm pickup from gdb right now. |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | it doesn't go crazy and use all cpu in gdb? |
| 01:05 | <Pedersen> | Sorry, it does indeed, and I still get a pretty black screen for video. |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | well, which thread is using all the cpu? |
| 01:07 | <Pedersen> | Well, in this realm, I'm an idiot, I have to admit. I've dealt with single threaded debugging, but mt debug in gdb I don't know. If I try and break it, so that I can at least get a backtrace, it breaks in libc. |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | heh, ok |
| 01:07 | <tmk> | sup chut |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | what you want to do is make note of which pid is using all the cpu |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | then, break execution in gdb |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | 'info threads' |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | to get a list of the available threads |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | then 'thread X' to get the internal number |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | well, to switch to the thread |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | X is the internal number that matches the pid |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | then you can get a normal backtrace of it |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | tmk, how's things? |
| 01:09 | <Pedersen> | Okay, now THAT is bizarre... QMapPrivate??? Here's the info line for the pid which was sucking down the cpu: |
| 01:09 | <tmk> | ok.. not much time this week |
| 01:09 | <Pedersen> | 13 Thread 180236 (LWP 7684) 0x08102cc1 in QMapPrivate<QString, QString>::clear(QMapNode<QString, QString>*) () |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | i'm building a set-top box |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | with my mini-itx? =) |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | so all my creative energy (and cash) is going into that right now |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | yep |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | i'll post it to mini-itx.com when i finish |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | doing the case? |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | it's sure to be /.'d </sarcasm> |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | pedersen, what's the rest of it? |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | yeah.. a little custom work |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | it's an old cd-player case |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | cool. mention mythtv prominently =) |
| 01:10 | <tmk> | i'm gonna put a nice front on it |
| 01:11 | <tmk> | will do |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | but, wait |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | you're _not_ going to get to work on that guy's critical list of issues? |
| 01:11 | <tmk> | the test_ioctl guy? |
| 01:11 | <tmk> | pfft |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | flood warning..... |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | ----- |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | hehe |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | (gdb) info threads |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | * 16 Thread 229391 (LWP 7687) 0x40b7f9d1 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 15 Thread 213006 (LWP 7686) 0x40996beb in read () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 14 Thread 196621 (LWP 7685) 0x40b5a426 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 13 Thread 180236 (LWP 7684) 0x08102cc1 in QMapPrivate<QString, QString>::clear(QMapNode<QString, QString>*) () |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 12 Thread 163851 (LWP 7683) 0x40b5a426 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 11 Thread 147466 (LWP 7676) 0x40993b88 in __pthread_sigsuspend () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 10 Thread 131081 (LWP 7675) 0x40993b88 in __pthread_sigsuspend () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 9 Thread 114696 (LWP 7674) 0x40993b88 in __pthread_sigsuspend () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 8 Thread 98311 (LWP 7673) 0x40993b88 in __pthread_sigsuspend () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 7 Thread 81926 (LWP 7672) 0x40993b88 in __pthread_sigsuspend () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 6 Thread 65541 (LWP 7671) 0x40b5a426 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:11 | <Pedersen> | 5 Thread 49156 (LWP 7670) 0x40b5a426 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:12 | <Pedersen> | 4 Thread 32771 (LWP 7669) 0x40b5a426 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:12 | <Pedersen> | 3 Thread 16386 (LWP 7668) 0x40993b88 in __pthread_sigsuspend () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 01:12 | <tmk> | i await his patch with bated breath |
| 01:12 | <Pedersen> | 2 Thread 32769 (LWP 7667) 0x40b7dea4 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:12 | <Pedersen> | 1 Thread 16384 (LWP 7659) 0x40b5a426 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:12 | <Pedersen> | ----- |
| 01:12 | <tmk> | let's do that in /msg next time |
| 01:12 | <tmk> | shall we? |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | pedersen, ok, so 'thread 13' |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | then bt it |
| 01:12 | <Pedersen> | sorry tmk |
| 01:12 | <tmk> | i know how chutt loves /msg |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | if that's indeed the pid, etc |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:12 | <tmk> | Chutt: that guy can use james's record_v4l2 program |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | tmk, mine's working pretty well |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | (mini-itx w/ pvr-350) |
| 01:13 | <tmk> | cool. Live tv is nice |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | little slow |
| 01:13 | <tmk> | i've made it a monday-nite habit |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | need to work on that |
| 01:13 | <tmk> | for football |
| 01:13 | <tmk> | ff while paused still causes problems sometimes |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | think if i can switch to using select() instead of just blocking write()s for the video writing |
| 01:13 | <tmk> | oh sure |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | i can make it much more responsive |
| 01:13 | <tmk> | i can do that this week |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | no problem |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | code's already pretty much in there |
| 01:14 | <tmk> | just need to hook it up |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | pedersen, so, obviously, that didn't help =) |
| 01:14 | <Pedersen> | Nope... Lemme see if I can make it happen elsewhere (somehow)... |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | _maybe_ run it outside of gdb |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | then attach to the pid that's going crazy |
| 01:16 | | * Pedersen comes back, and gets it in the same spot. I'll see what else I can do with an external gdb (hopefully)... |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | i really have no idea what the problem could be |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | so i'm just reaching, here |
| 01:17 | | * Pedersen nods. Well, I AM on qt3.1. Maybe qt3.2 will do something (upgrading that right now as well). |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | 3.1's pretty decent |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | it's 3.0 that had a bunch of thread-safety issues |
| 01:19 | <davatar> | we need to have a function to scan the db after a crash... unforntunately I don't as of yet know much about the db format.. |
| 01:21 | <Pedersen> | Wow.... So, Chutt, it's not just a simple case of my stupidity, at least? That at least makes me feel somewhat better :) |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:25 | <Pedersen> | For reasons that don't make a lot of sense to me, I think it's somewhere around abouts the opening of the video device.... Maybe... frontend is obviously waiting for permission to read. And from what you've just said, I can make sense of where it's waiting. Is it possible that the backend is failing to give it that permission? |
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| 01:36 | | * Pedersen waits for rebuild with new qt lib version... |
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| 01:57 | | * Pedersen hates waiting for these long compiles... |
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| 02:16 | | * Pedersen considers crying. Same damned issues. And I really really wanted this working before I went to bed. |
| 02:23 | <pmowry> | For a PVR-350,do you need to load ivtv-fband run X on it to get OSD? |
| 02:25 | <pmowry> | I have not touched the framebuffer configs yet, pause,ff,etc work fine, but frontend segfaultswhen exiting video. |
| 02:26 | | * Pedersen doesn't know, sorry, but I've never even seen a pvr-350. |
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| 02:27 | <pmowry> | I could not findone locally, Expected to pay $200+,but ended up ordering online for $177 inc shipping. |
| 02:28 | <pmowry> | Playing a recorded show while recording another is 3%CPU on a P3-500 |
| 02:29 | <Pedersen> | Right now, I'd settle for being able to record a show of any sort. 0.12 looks to be a bad move for me, and I'm not sure I'm going to keep on upgrading anything at this point. |
| 02:31 | <Pedersen> | i've been fighting with this in one form or another since about 8:30, and it's now 2:30. I'm downgrading, and saying to hell with 0.12 for the foreseeable future. |
| 02:32 | <pmowry> | I started witha fresh install of RH9 (not the best choice for MythTV) and installed only the packages listed in the docs. I've always used current CVS versions for the hardware encoder support. |
| 02:34 | <Pedersen> | I started with 0.7 last December, and tried to stay semi-current. But with fighting this for 6 hours, it's no longer worth it. I want to go to bed, but since I need this to be working within the hour, I can't do so yet. |
| 02:34 | <pmowry> | QT 3.1.1 is what I have |
| 02:34 | <Pedersen> | That's where I just was, 30 minutes ago. Upgraded to qt3.2 to no effect. |
| 02:35 | <Pedersen> | But, step down to 0.10, and I'll be fine again. |
| 02:35 | <Pedersen> | Once it finishes compiling, anyway. |
| 02:36 | <pmowry> | I joined the conversation late, what are you using for video-out? |
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| 02:37 | <Pedersen> | video-out? Standard monitor. video-in is standard cable tv, onto a bttv card. |
| 02:38 | <pmowry> | I'm waiting for an office in London to open, so Ihavesome time to kill, Although I'm sure your skills greatly surpass mine. |
| 02:39 | <Pedersen> | I find that a skill rating is highly overrated. I learn stuff from people who still aren't sure of how to turn computers on, and I learn stuff from people whose skills are widfely acknowledged as great. |
| 02:43 | <Pedersen> | I'm going to quit. I'm going to run this setup for 0.12 one more time. And then I'm going to reboot, and it either works or it doesn't. I stop caring. |
| 02:44 | <pmowry> | The only time I had an issue with no video was when i did not have my soundcard driver loaded properly. but Igot errors with /dev/dsp and I did not see that in your flood. |
| 02:45 | <Pedersen> | Nope, that works fine. In fact, according to mythtv docs, I should be working just fine. BRB. |
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| 02:50 | | * Pedersen_ comes back. Suffice to say, I'm not happy with 0.12. I can't record. And, somehow, 0.10 (which I was using as recently as last night) is now gone as well. |
| 02:51 | <pmowry> | :( |
| 02:51 | <Chutt> | so it's something else, then |
| 02:51 | <Pedersen_> | And I know it's not device openings that are the problem, since any other program uses them just fine. |
| 02:52 | <pmowry> | also meaning no IRQ conflicts or other low level things. |
| 02:53 | <Pedersen_> | No, I don't believe it's that, not when other programs can access sound/video just fine. |
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| 02:54 | <Chutt> | sure you have all the device names set right? |
| 02:54 | <srl> | Chutt: I think mythgame might be a bit broken |
| 02:54 | <Chutt> | stupid question, but =) |
| 02:54 | <Pedersen_> | Using drop-downs, I select /dev/video, /dev/vbi, and /dev/dsp |
| 02:55 | <Chutt> | try disabling the closed captioning stuff |
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| 02:55 | <srl> | I tried giving it joystick options both through the combo box and through extra arguments |
| 02:55 | <srl> | And neither appeared to affect the command that is run |
| 02:55 | <pmowry> | Chutt: Hey, Stupid questions is my job ;) |
| 02:55 | <Chutt> | srl, dunno, i don't use the command line options |
| 02:59 | <Pedersen_> | Removed /dev/vbi device entry. Any other places I can pull out closed captioning? |
| 03:00 | <Chutt> | the general section of setup |
| 03:00 | <Chutt> | make it 'none' instead of 'ntsc cc' |
| 03:00 | <Chutt> | last page or something |
| 03:00 | <pmowry> | /dev/video is a symlink to/dev/video0 on my system. Is /video normal for bt card? |
| 03:01 | <Chutt> | it's just a symlink, generally |
| 03:01 | <Pedersen_> | No effect when cc is disabled. |
| 03:02 | <Pedersen_> | I've used both /dev/video and /dev/video over the past 6 hours. |
| 03:02 | | * Pedersen_ says /dev/video0 |
| 03:02 | <Chutt> | your AIW isn't causing problems? |
| 03:02 | <Pedersen_> | Can't be. No hardware tuner on it. |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | if i could get a good backtrace, i might be able to see what's going on |
| 03:06 | <Chutt> | but, without it, i really don't know what's up |
| 03:07 | <Chutt> | there's nothing blocking it from opening the soundcard for recording, right? |
| 03:07 | <Pedersen_> | Give me an ssh public key, and you're in. |
| 03:07 | <Chutt> | naw, i'm going to bed in a fe |
| 03:07 | <Chutt> | few |
| 03:08 | <Pedersen_> | Nothing blocking the sounds card at all. I just did "aplay /dev/dsp" |
| 03:08 | <Pedersen_> | And that worked just fine. |
| 03:08 | <Chutt> | that's more of an alsa util, though |
| 03:08 | <Chutt> | but, yeah, should be fine |
| 03:11 | <Chutt> | what distribution are you using? |
| 03:11 | <Pedersen_> | Debian unstable. |
| 03:12 | <Chutt> | when did you last update it? |
| 03:12 | <Chutt> | well, what version of g++ are you using? |
| 03:12 | <Pedersen_> | Full update? Long time ago... g++ version? 3.3? Lemme check. |
| 03:12 | <Pedersen_> | 3.3.2 |
| 03:12 | <Chutt> | full debian version string of it |
| 03:12 | <Chutt> | want the deb revision |
| 03:13 | <Pedersen_> | If this means what I think it means, I'm going to be very very pissed with myself... |
| 03:13 | <Pedersen_> | Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.2/specs |
| 03:13 | <Pedersen_> | Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada,treelang --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/3.3 --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-debug --enable-java-gc=boehm --enable-java-awt=xlib --enable-objc-gc i486-linux |
| 03:13 | <Pedersen_> | Thread model: posix |
| 03:13 | <Pedersen_> | gcc version 3.3.2 20030908 (Debian prerelease) |
| 03:13 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 03:14 | <Chutt> | dpkg -s g++ |
| 03:15 | <Pedersen_> | Well, I'm trying an update of g++-3.3, and gcc-3.3. Hopefully, there's a fix or two in there. |
| 03:15 | <Chutt> | what version was it? |
| 03:15 | <Chutt> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=210848 |
| 03:16 | <Pedersen_> | Version: 4:3.3.1-2 |
| 03:16 | <Chutt> | read that for what i'm thinking the problem is. |
| 03:16 | <Chutt> | that's the current version, not the one you had before :p |
| 03:17 | <Chutt> | the date you pasted in before's right. |
| 03:17 | <Pedersen_> | Yep. I'm getting the update, and trying one more build tonight... |
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| 03:18 | <Chutt> | i'm going to be pissed if that was the problem :p |
| 03:19 | <Pedersen_> | And if that was the problem, I'm going to offer up a heartfelt apology. |
| 03:19 | <Pedersen_> | And a 6pack. |
| 03:19 | <Chutt> | naw, not your fault |
| 03:19 | <Chutt> | shoulda thought to ask earlier |
| 03:19 | <Pedersen_> | No, but my reactions to it have been. |
| 03:19 | <Pedersen_> | On the plus side, rebuild is about 17 minutes on this machine. |
| 03:19 | <Chutt> | there was a tiny thread on mythtv-dev about it |
| 03:20 | <Chutt> | last month, of course |
| 03:20 | <Pedersen_> | I missed it entirely (and yes, I am subscribed to mythtv-dev). |
| 03:20 | <Chutt> | Warning: mythtv debs version 0.11-5 are broken |
| 03:20 | <Pedersen_> | See, that would be why. I don't use .debs. |
| 03:20 | <Chutt> | i had a set of kde cvs debs compiled with the bad g++ |
| 03:21 | <Chutt> | konq would infinite loop on complex web pages |
| 03:21 | <Chutt> | pain in the ass |
| 03:21 | <Pedersen_> | Well, not for mythtv. I've been compiling it by hand since at least 0.9 (I think 0.8). |
| 03:21 | <Pedersen_> | And an infinite loop would definitely fit with what we're seeing here. damn... if that's it, I'm going to kick myself really hard. |
| 03:22 | <Chutt> | that's the problem with unstable |
| 03:22 | <Chutt> | don't want to update _too_ often, but you do have to do it _fairly_ often |
| 03:22 | <Pedersen_> | I know. I keep meaning to drop myself down to testing, and leaving it there. |
| 03:23 | <Pedersen_> | Every so often, though, I find something that I feel I gotta have, and it's always in unstable :( |
| 03:23 | <Pedersen_> | So help me, if this is it, I'm going to be the world's biggest fan of checkinstall. |
| 03:24 | <Chutt> | checkinstall? |
| 03:25 | <Pedersen_> | checkinstall is a great little tool for people who like to compile their software, but still want to use the "official" packaging system. Builds .rpms, .debs, and Slack .tgz files, and does so VERY easily. |
| 03:26 | <Pedersen_> | And, the last time I looked, there were .debs for it, and they did work :) |
| 03:27 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 03:27 | <Pedersen_> | Bathroom break, BRB. |
| 03:28 | <Pedersen_> | on file 147 of 228. |
| 03:29 | <Chutt> | g++ 3.4 is supposedly even slower |
| 03:29 | <Pedersen_> | Man, when are they going to stop adding features, and start fixing the speed issues? |
| 03:30 | <Chutt> | and i saw mention of 3.5 being twice as slow as the current stuff |
| 03:30 | <Chutt> | but that's rather far down the road, so i'd _hope_ that gets changed |
| 03:31 | <Chutt> | compile time for mythtv doubled when stuff switched from 2.95 -> 3.0 |
| 03:31 | <Pedersen_> | That's the one issue I'd like to see open source folkses address more readily (and I know that I try to do so myself): Speed. I want my programs to be as speedy as possible while still being featureful (I know, tough target to hit, though). |
| 03:32 | <Pedersen_> | As long as the runtime saw a suitable performance boost, I suppose I could live with the compiler going more slowly. But, I gotta admit, I'd still like to see the compiler be noticeably faster than it is. |
| 03:34 | <Pedersen_> | on file 189 of 228 |
| 03:35 | <Chutt> | not to globalsettings.cpp yet =) |
| 03:35 | <Chutt> | that's the biggie |
| 03:35 | <Pedersen_> | Hey, don't suppose you know if getting multithreaded builds is going to happen any time soon? (and yeah, that's number 211) |
| 03:35 | <Chutt> | qmake doesn't really handle dependencies well enough for that |
| 03:36 | <Pedersen_> | That's a shame. A truly well done build on a multi-cpu machine could be so much faster (and, someday, I'll have one of them :) |
| 03:37 | <Pedersen_> | Ya know, qmake doesn't have to handle dependencies really at all. If qmake can output some lines directly, writing up a multi-threaded build is pretty straightforward. |
| 03:37 | <Chutt> | it has hooks for that |
| 03:38 | <Pedersen_> | Then a possible idea would be to setup a section of mythtv.pro which is the make dependency list, and have qmake dump them out into the makefile (only the top level one has to handle it, most likely). |
| 03:41 | <Pedersen_> | And yes, I've done something like that. Hell, I made makefiles which were almost self-maintaining in their dependency tracking. All you had to do was list the .o file names, and where the source files could be found, and gnu make did the rest. Rather nice. |
| 03:41 | <Pedersen_> | Hey, 214 of 228! :) |
| 03:45 | <Pedersen_> | Chutt: Since I doubt I can legally send alcohol through the mail, where would you like me to send the check so you can buy it? |
| 03:45 | <Chutt> | no worries |
| 03:47 | <Pedersen_> | I owe you a huge favor. You solved this problem, and I don't know when (or even if) I ever would have. How can I pay you back? |
| 03:47 | <Chutt> | it's not necessary :p |
| 03:47 | <Chutt> | and it works now? |
| 03:48 | <Pedersen_> | Yes. |
| 03:48 | <Chutt> | great |
| 03:48 | <Pedersen_> | Works very well, in fact. Only issue that I have is a minor one (fix conflicts just decided to crap out on me, but that's okay). |
| 03:49 | <Chutt> | time for bed, then =) |
| 03:50 | <Pedersen_> | Well, I can think of two ways I -=CAN=- say thank you. |
| 03:50 | <Pedersen_> | 1) I'll try and help out here with questions. |
| 03:50 | <Pedersen_> | 2) I'll make sure people continue to know of my love of mythtv, and my appreciation for the people who make and support it. |
| 03:50 | <Pedersen_> | And those two things, I will do (though, as you pointed out, it's bed time right now) |
| 03:52 | <Pedersen_> | G'night. And thanks again (I'll be back on thursday, most likely. tomorrow is pretty much dead due to this and work). |
| 03:54 | <pmowry> | For my own little issue, ivtv-fb is required for OSD on the pvr-350 tv-out. |
| 03:54 | <pmowry> | Looks like my segfault issues are gone too. |
| 03:55 | <Pedersen_> | Ahhh, very cool. I wish I could have been useful, but I really do know nothing about those cards (except that I want one). |
| 03:55 | <pmowry> | I do not have X running directly to the frame buffer device. |
| 03:55 | <pmowry> | NO problem, Ihad the easier task tonight. |
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| 06:44 | <boogee> | Hey guys, What should I be running my display resolution on my TV with Mythtv 800x600 or 640x480? |
| 06:46 | <boogee> | Hey guys, What should I be running my display resolution on my TV with Mythtv 800x600 or 640x480? |
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| 07:30 | <knight-> | heh |
| 07:30 | <knight-> | shhh |
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| 10:56 | | * Edgan is away: I'm busy |
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| 11:17 | <josephk> | haha |
| 11:17 | <josephk> | I bet my decoding dies when the buffer hits the limit |
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| 11:38 | | * Pedersen_ waves? |
| 11:38 | <Pedersen_> | Anybody awake? |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | no |
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| 11:41 | | * Pedersen_ must ask for one more bit of help... The colors are way off, and the color changing controls make no sense to me. |
| 11:42 | <josephk> | nope...it dies after it goes over the limit |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | did you turn on the xv picture controls? |
| 11:42 | <josephk> | I'm going to up the limit and see if there's a pattern |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | you most likely don't want to use those |
| 11:44 | <Pedersen_> | Yep, and I'm trying without them. Seems that was a bad idea for me, maybe. |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | they don't really work on ati cards |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | unless you know what the defaults were, it may take a restart of X or a reboot to get it back |
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| 11:46 | <Pedersen_> | That's worth doing. BBIAM. |
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| 11:47 | <mikegrb> | not a good ideal to irc as root |
| 11:47 | <josephk> | blah blah blah...security...blah blah |
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| 11:48 | <root> | ug ... I hate KSirc |
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| 11:49 | <Pedersen_> | Thank you so much again. |
| 11:49 | <josephk> | next thing you'll be telling me its bad not to have a root password |
| 11:49 | <josephk> | or to log into X as root |
| 11:49 | <josephk> | hehe |
| 11:49 | | * choenig is away: einkaufen |
| 11:49 | <mikegrb> | only when it is connected to a network ;) |
| 11:49 | <jkolb> | No no no. That's just fine. What's your IP address again? |
| 11:50 | <josephk> | hehe |
| 11:50 | <Pedersen_> | okay, shower/work time. Gotta go for now, but thanks again. IO'll be back tomorrow to try and help with answering questions, rather than asking them. |
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| 11:50 | <josephk> | fix my mythbox? what was that? |
| 11:50 | <josephk> | well if you're offering:) |
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| 12:02 | <josephk> | ok...froze before it even got to the limit this time |
| 12:02 | <josephk> | 1.4GB |
| 12:03 | <josephk> | no segfault...nothing showing in dmesg |
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| 12:04 | <josephk> | I'll try debug=3 |
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| 12:07 | <josephk> | well it froze up at 200MB this time...so it doesn't appear to be a problem with the ringbuffer...still increasing in size |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | it's _probably_ something in the driver |
| 12:08 | <josephk> | I'm checking...yours doesn't do it though correct? |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | right |
| 12:10 | <josephk> | I'm running decoder-devel from changes on October 5th...on the site is October 3rd...same problem in both...I'll see if they've updated recentl |
| 12:10 | <josephk> | y |
| 12:10 | <thor_> | learn something new everyday: there's a gcc flag called -Wno-unknown-pragmas |
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| 12:16 | <josephk> | maybe I should try the borked branch...hehe |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | josephk, use your new gdb skills to get a backtrace of the frontend when it's stuck like that |
| 12:18 | <josephk> | well its not stucj |
| 12:18 | <josephk> | stuck even |
| 12:18 | <josephk> | just asking for data |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | ok, so both backend and frontend |
| 12:19 | <josephk> | when I try I have to stop them...and the ouput is the same as if I were just interrupting them normally |
| 12:20 | <josephk> | I will try attaching after the fact |
| 12:22 | <josephk> | I'm grabbing the verbose output also...and having fun:D |
| 12:23 | <josephk> | I'm serious...kind of fun trying to figure it out |
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| 12:42 | | * choenig is back (gone 00:53:04) |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | thor, hey, so when do i get a tarball =) |
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| 12:50 | <thor_> | Chutt, I can send you one now |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 12:50 | <thor_> | (but it doesn't *do* much) |
| 12:50 | <thor_> | hang on |
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| 12:54 | <thor_> | btw, saw you mentioned select() in threads ... discovred a couple of days ago that a named pipe added to the select fd's is a great way to get one thread to pop another out of a select() call |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | i'd probably just set a timeout to the select and check every so often |
| 12:57 | <thor_> | yeah, but if you need ownership of the file descriptors back in *this* thread, it's great to be able to pop the other out (assuming it releases a lock on them as soon as it comes out of selec()) |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 12:57 | <thor_> | I'm using it for sockets in the audio plugin which you will get shortly |
| 12:58 | <thor_> | one thread that just watches file descriptors for new socket connections and incoming data from clients |
| 12:58 | <thor_> | (but hey, I'm just making this up as I go along) |
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| 13:09 | <o_cee> | DELETE * FROM program WHERE chanid = 5; <-- hmm, what's wrong with that? gotta dig up my book about sql, hehe |
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| 13:14 | <jkolb> | You just want delete from program, no * |
| 13:14 | <thor_> | Chutt, fun things to try: |
| 13:14 | <thor_> | start like this ./mfd -l 10 |
| 13:14 | <thor_> | run another one on another box: ./mfd -l 10 |
| 13:15 | <thor_> | telnet localhost 2342 |
| 13:15 | <thor_> | services list |
| 13:15 | <thor_> | (ah, we have an audio service) |
| 13:15 | <thor_> | telnet localhost 2343 |
| 13:15 | <thor_> | play file:///whatever/content.mp3 |
| 13:15 | <o_cee> | jkolb: thanks :) |
| 13:15 | <jkolb> | np |
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| 13:16 | <thor_> | also, ps axf | grep mfd |
| 13:16 | <thor_> | threads! |
| 13:19 | <Chutt> | need an include assert.h in mfd/plugins/zeroconfig/zc_responder.cpp |
| 13:19 | <thor_> | ok |
| 13:21 | <Chutt> | MFDService object could not call gethostbyaddr() |
| 13:21 | <Chutt> | errors? |
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| 13:21 | <thor_> | shouldn't be a big problem, just can't tell if a service is local to host or not |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | works |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | what about visualization info, though? |
| 13:24 | <thor_> | on a socket |
| 13:24 | <thor_> | almost done actually |
| 13:25 | <thor_> | I already have server sockets running in their own threads (QSocketDevice), so it's just more of the same |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | so you're not using straight QSockets, good |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | only up at the top |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | since qsocket needs the event loop, that's a good thing |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | yup |
| 13:29 | <thor_> | you can do multiple connects on 2343 (audio service) from multiple clients, and they'll all get updated .... that's all inside some threads two levels down |
| 13:29 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 13:30 | <thor_> | which would be your Zauraus remote |
| 13:30 | <thor_> | =) |
| 13:30 | <Chutt> | there's not a status message if you give it a bad filename |
| 13:30 | <thor_> | on the log, or the client? |
| 13:30 | <Chutt> | on the client |
| 13:30 | <thor_> | should say huh, will fix (of course) |
| 13:31 | <thor_> | spaces need to be %20 |
| 13:31 | <thor_> | easiest is file://1.cda |
| 13:31 | <thor_> | (if that's working in the one I sent you) |
| 13:32 | <thor_> | (and you have a cd loaded) |
| 13:32 | <Chutt> | doesn't say huh |
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| 13:32 | <thor_> | will soon =) |
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| 13:35 | <thor_> | fixed |
| 13:36 | <Chutt> | this works pretty well |
| 13:37 | <thor_> | lots of framework, and lots more to come .... audio must undertand play daap://host/content and then things will get really interesting |
| 13:37 | <thor_> | oh, and then maybe a GUI client ;-) |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | why don't you check this stuff into cvs sometime? |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | just so it's backed up, etc |
| 13:38 | <thor_> | I've been ftp'ing it around just in case |
| 13:38 | <thor_> | but why don't you plop that tarball in (I still don't know how to do initial CVS imports) and I'll put in changes |
| 13:39 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 13:39 | <thor_> | you see anything radically stupid about the whole everything is a service and every service sits in its own threads ? |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 13:40 | <thor_> | good |
| 13:46 | <josephk> | I should update gcc |
| 13:48 | <josephk> | I'm 3.2.2 |
| 13:48 | <thor_> | Chutt, you're not runnin ip6 by any chance, are you? |
| 13:48 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:51 | <thor_> | you running on a box that has no entry in /etc/hosts trying to figure out why you couldn't do gethostbyaddr() |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | i'll check it out later, don't worry 'bout it |
| 13:52 | <thor_> | I'll add some debug info to the warning() |
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| 16:02 | <thor_> | Chutt, do I need to anything other than: cvs import -m "Intitial Import" mfd foo start |
| 16:02 | <thor_> | to do |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | if you're in the mfd dir |
| 16:03 | <thor_> | yup |
| 16:03 | <thor_> | that do sub dirs ? |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | and that should do it properly |
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| 16:03 | <thor_> | you can correct this if I bugger it up? |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | of course |
| 16:04 | <thor_> | k |
| 16:04 | <thor_> | in a bit |
| 16:04 | <thor_> | thanks |
| 16:06 | <warlord> | Hmm, the "fix conflicts" screen is hanging on me. Let me update CVS and see if it helps. |
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| 16:33 | <warlord> | ok, it does. good. |
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| 17:03 | <mikegrb> | welcome beau |
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| 18:01 | <thor_> | beau, btw it wasn't an AP gateway problem, seems XP decided it should turn on a firewall when using a wireless network adaptor |
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| 18:21 | <DogBoy> | after transcoding, when do the old files get deleted? |
| 18:26 | <mikegrb> | when you delete them |
| 18:30 | <o_cee> | there's a setting for that as well |
| 18:31 | <o_cee> | in the setup program |
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| 18:35 | <DogBoy> | so they are not deleted automatically by mythtv? |
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| 18:35 | <DogBoy> | been looking for some setting for that but have not found one |
| 18:35 | <DogBoy> | maybe it's in there with the auto expire thing |
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| 18:52 | <D-side> | so whats new and exciting |
| 18:54 | <D-side> | anyone running gentoo as a backend? |
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| 19:03 | <mikegrb> | In case anyone is curious... |
| 19:04 | <mikegrb> | A dual 2.66 ghz Xeon kicks the pants off a uni 1.7ghz celeron |
| 19:04 | <mikegrb> | of course there are several more gigs of ram on the 2.66 but hey, whos counting? |
| 19:04 | <D-side> | that is indeed shocking news. have you called reuters yet? |
| 19:04 | <sfr> | hard to believe actually ;p |
| 19:04 | <mikegrb> | not yet |
| 19:04 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:04 | <mikegrb> | I started a compile locally |
| 19:04 | <D-side> | post it to /. now and i'll get the FP! |
| 19:04 | <mikegrb> | ssh'ed into the server, modified some files and started the compile there |
| 19:05 | <D-side> | dont talk to me about compiling, i'm about to do a stage 1 gentoo install on an xp2000 w/ a half a gig ram |
| 19:05 | <mikegrb> | I saw configure finishing and thought it must be the server... no it was local, server was already into the compile, nice'd down at that |
| 19:05 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:05 | <mikegrb> | these are both gentoo |
| 19:05 | <D-side> | :/ |
| 19:06 | <D-side> | welp, brb. bringing the freshly burned gentoo cd downstairs. |
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| 19:06 | <mikegrb> | heh the xeon is already on the next program |
| 19:06 | <mikegrb> | my celeron has been lapped |
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| 20:50 | <warlord> | hmm... interesting focus issue.. We were watching LiveTV, then went into the EPG.. While in the EPG it popped up a dialog saying that it wanted to use the tuner to record something else... We lost focus and couldn't do anything except kill the frontend. |
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| 20:56 | <pmowry> | What do you hit to get EPG from Live TV? I just hit exit.... I wanna try to duplicate. |
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| 21:05 | <pmowry> | Duh, The Menu key on my remote or M. I'll try in 30 minutes. I actually had something to record. So I'll try to duplicate the lost focus when its over. |
| 21:06 | <thor_> | warlord, 0.12 ? |
| 21:07 | <warlord> | thor_: well, current-CVS |
| 21:07 | <thor_> | hmmmm |
| 21:07 | <warlord> | (current as of about 4-6 hours ago) |
| 21:08 | <thor_> | thought we had this issue licked |
| 21:08 | <thor_> | please tell me your running some godawful obscure window manager in "screw up" focus mode |
| 21:08 | <warlord> | well, strangely the pop-up dialog was in the little preview window... |
| 21:08 | <thor_> | eh? |
| 21:08 | <warlord> | I'm running kde |
| 21:09 | <warlord> | we were in EPG, and the "popup" showed up in the live-tv preview window... |
| 21:09 | <thor_> | ahhhhhh |
| 21:09 | <thor_> | don't do that |
| 21:09 | <thor_> | =) |
| 21:09 | <warlord> | what do you mean, "dont do that"... |
| 21:09 | <thor_> | kidding .... |
| 21:10 | <warlord> | How am *I* supposed to know when it wants to take my tuner out from under me? |
| 21:10 | <thor_> | that "popup" is really an OSD |
| 21:10 | <thor_> | but nothing I can fix (unfortunately) |
| 21:11 | <thor_> | if you want to help Chutt on this, setup a recording and repeat the same thing, but in gdb |
| 21:13 | <warlord> | i'll try... although rh9 + gdb + multithread seems to have a LOT of problems. |
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| 21:16 | <pmowry> | Is it worth trying to duplicate with twm as well? I'm RH9 and latest CVS too. |
| 21:17 | <pmowry> | ivtv-fb for display. |
| 21:20 | <warlord> | sure, go ahead... |
| 21:20 | <warlord> | i'm using nvidia tv-out |
| 21:23 | <thor_> | video out shouldn't matter ... I suspect the OSD popup thinks it has focus ... but not my code. A backtrace on the lockup can show Chutt exactly where things are spinning |
| 21:24 | <pmowry> | Gnome is installed too, kde might be around. // Thor, so you dont think it is window manager specific? |
| 21:25 | <thor_> | I doubt it ... |
| 21:25 | <thor_> | but I've been known to be wrong |
| 21:29 | <pmowry> | wow, gdb is not on the box. gottafix that. |
| 21:44 | <thor_> | what kind of a nutbar puts methods in a struct ? |
| 22:03 | <josephk> | hehe |
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| 22:11 | <D-side> | pfeh. |
| 22:16 | <D-side> | now that kde and gnome are gone, i need to pick a decent lightweight wm |
| 22:18 | <josephk> | feh...I use windowmaker |
| 22:18 | <D-side> | i was considering blackbox or the like |
| 22:18 | <D-side> | just wondering about possible focus problems |
| 22:18 | <josephk> | blackbox is nice too |
| 22:19 | <D-side> | i'm redoing the whole box w/ gentoo, so i guess i'm just looking for ideas |
| 22:20 | <josephk> | hahaha |
| 22:20 | <josephk> | southpark is ridiculous |
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| 22:21 | <warlord> | I see nothing wrong with kde as a WM -- it's pretty much just swapped all the time. |
| 22:21 | <josephk> | I had trouble using kde...at least on a slower machine |
| 22:21 | <josephk> | but that was probably my fault |
| 22:22 | <warlord> | *shrugs* |
| 22:22 | <josephk> | using windowmaker or blackbox made myth a wee bit zippier |
| 22:22 | <warlord> | I've got a fast machine, so I guess I just dont have a problem. |
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| 22:29 | <D-side> | well i figured that since i'm going with gentoo anyway i might as well streamline it as much as possible. |
| 22:29 | <D-side> | this might still end up being solely a backend anyway. |
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