--- | Log | opened Sat Nov 01 00:00:06 2003 |
--- | Day | changed Sat Nov 01 2003 |
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00:20 | <nulltank> | farce: hey, thx for your comment; i just saw it now; yeah i was thinking about trying redhat |
00:21 | <De_Mon> | thinking and redhat, dont quite belong in the same sentance |
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00:39 | <cesman> | in 0.12 the schema is updated when setup is ran, correct? |
00:42 | <kvandivo> | the schema is _updated_ anytime anything is run that hits the db |
00:42 | <kvandivo> | on a fresh install you are still expected to do the mysql < mc.sql |
00:43 | <cesman> | Thanks! |
00:44 | <kvandivo> | np |
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01:04 | <nulltank> | De_Mon: what OS would you recommend to use with mythtv then? |
01:04 | <Teflon-> | Debian! |
01:04 | <nulltank> | De_Mon: or are you just being sarcastic... |
01:04 | <Teflon-> | closest thing to a civilized linux. |
01:05 | <nulltank> | yeah, i like debian a lot, but i'm not sure how it would be better at setting up my gforce card than gentoo |
01:07 | <cesman> | nulltank:you could try KnoppMyth |
01:08 | <cesman> | with R4, install-nvidia.sh |
01:08 | <nulltank> | cesman: not a bad idea; does it work with PVR-250's? |
01:09 | <nulltank> | cesman: i'll have to give it a shot |
01:09 | <cesman> | yes |
01:09 | <cesman> | PVR-x50 support is built in to R4 |
01:10 | <cesman> | want to try RC1? |
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01:55 | <yebyen> | man |
02:30 | | * DogBoy burns R4 |
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04:06 | <Aug> | hi |
04:07 | <Aug> | is anyone willing to help a n00b |
04:07 | <DogBoy> | better just to ask the question you have in mind |
04:07 | <DogBoy> | and see what happens |
04:07 | <Aug> | it's with ivtv... i cat /proc/interrupts and i don't see my pvr250 card |
04:07 | <Aug> | also, i had to manually enable busmastering |
04:08 | <Aug> | ivtv won't detect. i asked on the ivtv channel but they are dead over there lol |
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04:26 | <Aug> | has anyone else run into problems with detecting their PVR250 from /proc/interrupts |
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04:45 | <m_arc> | i've set up my ivtv-fb device at 720*576 |
04:45 | <m_arc> | when I use myth, the resolution jumps around a lot |
04:45 | <m_arc> | to 1440*480, 65536*0 etc |
06:00 | <o_cee> | thor_: you awake? |
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06:04 | <o_cee> | cut'n'paste patch fix send to the list |
06:30 | <o_cee> | https://dragon.dyndns.tv/sc.png the latest version.. fixed the background a little, increased the font. changed some watermarks. up and down arrows. and something that looks like a logo.. |
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08:05 | <m_arc> | hello |
08:05 | <m_arc> | anybody around who uses ivtv-fb in PAL country? |
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08:54 | <o_cee> | hey sfr |
08:54 | <sfr> | o_cee: hi |
08:54 | <o_cee> | https://dragon.dyndns.tv/sc.png the latest version.. fixed the background a little, increased the font. changed some watermarks. up and down arrows. and something that looks like a logo.. |
08:55 | <o_cee> | better or worse than before? :) |
08:57 | <sfr> | better i think. the icon looks really nice. |
08:57 | <o_cee> | they are |
08:57 | <o_cee> | :) |
08:59 | <sfr> | how far are you with that theme? |
08:59 | <o_cee> | i need to look at all the other stuff now.. like all buttons are still blue :) |
08:59 | <o_cee> | but the menus are getting there |
09:00 | <sfr> | cool. it could become the default theme imho |
09:01 | <o_cee> | who knows ;) |
09:01 | <thor_> | o_cee, what did you want? |
09:01 | <o_cee> | it was that patch i send to the list |
09:01 | <thor_> | ah, ok |
09:02 | <o_cee> | [mythtv] [PATCH] MythGame settings thinks it's MusicSettings |
09:02 | <thor_> | ... I'm a little behind on my mailing list reading .... I'll get to it |
09:02 | <o_cee> | just a cut'n'paste typo it seems :) |
09:02 | <o_cee> | oh :) i'm ok with the devlist, but users is a pain the keep up with |
09:03 | <o_cee> | maybe it'd be a nice feature to be able to change the background without chaning theme? |
09:03 | <o_cee> | as a new feature i mean |
09:03 | <thor_> | maybe .... I dunno |
09:04 | <thor_> | new screen shots look great |
09:05 | <thor_> | ... but I'd still vote for an even bigger font |
09:05 | <thor_> | ;-) |
09:05 | <o_cee> | heh, i can actually read this from the sofa :) |
09:05 | <thor_> | ok ... good |
09:05 | <o_cee> | without glasses |
09:05 | <o_cee> | ;) |
09:06 | <sfr> | how big is your TV? |
09:06 | <o_cee> | 32" |
09:06 | <thor_> | and how big is your living room? |
09:06 | <sfr> | pff, what about a ~20" one. |
09:06 | <o_cee> | i sit about.. 2-3 m from the tv? |
09:07 | <o_cee> | arw, they'll have to make it even bigger themselves ;) |
09:07 | <o_cee> | maybe i'll make it a little bigger |
09:08 | <o_cee> | will the new stuff for font:small work in the theme as well? or is it just for the rest of the stuff? |
09:09 | <o_cee> | argh, gotta try to understand qtlook.txt now i guess.. |
09:13 | <sfr> | o_cee: i'd lighten up the lower right corner a bit. |
09:16 | <o_cee> | i'll see what i can do |
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12:39 | <racer> | hello |
12:40 | <racer> | i have cvs installed from 311003 |
12:40 | <racer> | but now i got this error when i enter the epg |
12:40 | <racer> | unknown tag size:small in font |
12:40 | <racer> | anybody knows what it means? |
12:41 | <sfr> | racer: do you follow the -commits and -dev lists? you should if you use cvs. |
12:42 | <racer> | yes at least the commits |
12:42 | <racer> | sorry did I mis something |
12:43 | <sfr> | iirc it allows themes to change the font size, or something along that. does the epg fail? |
12:44 | <racer> | yes with the standard blue theme |
12:44 | <racer> | i go to tv->schedule recordings->program guide |
12:44 | <racer> | and then crash |
12:44 | <thor_> | racer, sounds like new theme-ui.xml file against old libmyth .... |
12:45 | <racer> | so get libmyth from cvs and build again? |
12:46 | <thor_> | yup ... might want a make distclean in there as well |
12:46 | <thor_> | (I dunno) |
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12:46 | <racer> | ok |
12:46 | <racer> | will try thnx guys |
12:48 | <racer> | don't know why but since libmyth V13 there is something strange going on |
12:49 | <racer> | if i get a new CVS and build it, then all libs are as usual in /usr/local/lib |
12:50 | <racer> | but since V13 i have to manual copy them to /usr/lib also |
12:50 | <racer> | i allready changed /etc/ld.so.conf |
12:50 | <thor_> | you started out with a package ? |
12:50 | <thor_> | and then moved to CVS |
12:50 | <thor_> | ? |
12:50 | <racer> | yeah thats right long time ago |
12:50 | <racer> | :) |
12:51 | <racer> | but with libs 12 this was never a problem |
12:51 | <thor_> | different numbers |
12:51 | <racer> | in /usr/lib i had no libmyth libraries |
12:51 | <racer> | since 13 its a problem |
12:51 | <thor_> | you definitely want a clean build |
12:52 | <racer> | :( |
12:52 | <thor_> | should never need to be manually copying them around |
12:52 | <racer> | no i know! but making a new clean build does not make me happy, and my gf i think! |
12:52 | <racer> | but what the hack if the experts say so! |
12:52 | <racer> | :)) |
12:53 | <sfr> | racer: why not? your config will not be touched. |
12:54 | <racer> | what you mean with a clean build then? |
12:55 | <sfr> | racer: to rebuild and install mythtv from source, then the same again for all plugins you use. |
12:56 | <racer> | thats what i do when i get the latest CVS |
12:56 | <racer> | ?? |
12:56 | <racer> | i do make clean distclean |
12:56 | <thor_> | cd /mythcvs |
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12:56 | <thor_> | cvs co mythtv |
12:56 | <racer> | and build them all again |
12:56 | <thor_> | or cd /mythtv |
12:56 | <thor_> | cvs update |
12:57 | <thor_> | make distclean |
12:57 | <thor_> | ./configure |
12:57 | <thor_> | qmake |
12:57 | <thor_> | make |
12:57 | <racer> | yeah i know this song!!! |
12:57 | <racer> | thats what i do |
12:57 | <racer> | incl. make install |
12:57 | <Chutt> | remove your previous installations. |
12:58 | <racer> | just remove from /usr/local/bin? |
12:58 | <Chutt> | remove the package you had installed before. |
12:58 | <sfr> | racer: and check /usr/lib |
12:58 | <racer> | thats allready gone for months now |
12:58 | <thor_> | not if there's stuff in /usr/lib |
12:58 | <Chutt> | if stuff's still thinking that there's the mythtv libs in /usr/lib, you didn't remove it. |
12:59 | <thor_> | (unless you're fiddling with PREFIX) |
12:59 | <racer> | i just cheked it but the packages are gone |
12:59 | <racer> | i installed them with apt-get |
12:59 | <racer> | what prefix? |
13:00 | <thor_> | if you built from CVS and messed with PREFIX in the configuration |
13:00 | <racer> | i had this problem with v12 libs also but when i deleted them all in /usr/lib the problem was gone |
13:01 | <racer> | and i never had it again, with the introd. of V13 libs the problem is back |
13:01 | <racer> | no thor! sorry i don't mess! :) |
13:02 | <thor_> | updatedb; locate myth |
13:02 | <thor_> | then tear out anything that isn't /usr/local |
13:02 | <thor_> | or CVS src |
13:02 | <racer> | ok thor |
13:02 | <thor_> | update, make distclean, and away you go |
13:02 | <racer> | will try |
13:03 | <racer> | can is ask something else? |
13:04 | <thor_> | possiblies |
13:04 | <racer> | i now have tvout from the pvr350, im in a pal country |
13:04 | <racer> | if i change channel the osd part messes up my screen and interface |
13:05 | <racer> | known problem? |
13:05 | <racer> | i have osd on the top of the screen and on the bottom! |
13:05 | <thor_> | tmk would know .... also you might try the mailing list ... I have no idea (no pvr350) |
13:06 | <racer> | man you should have one, the tv quality is almost perfect, cable quality |
13:06 | <racer> | with the nvidia out it suxx! |
13:07 | <racer> | hope tmk makes a good framebuffer (YUV) driver so i can use your mythvideo with the tvout! |
13:08 | <Chutt> | i can't wait!!!!!!!!!!! |
13:09 | <racer> | at least i can use at a reasonable speed |
13:10 | <racer> | yeah me too chutt! |
13:11 | <m_arc> | racer: I've got a patch from axboe for mythtv and ivtv-fb in pal |
13:11 | <m_arc> | watch www.gerges.net in about an hour, I'll push it up there |
13:11 | <racer> | 311003A? |
13:11 | <m_arc> | yes, and a patch for mythtv. only for 0.12 though, not cvs. works beautifully |
13:12 | <racer> | so you had the same problem M-arc? |
13:12 | <m_arc> | yes |
13:12 | <racer> | so hy not post it in the mailing list |
13:12 | <racer> | so Isaac can apply it maybe to the current CVS? |
13:13 | <Chutt> | that was sarcasm. |
13:13 | <m_arc> | mailing list doesn't accept my emails |
13:13 | <m_arc> | I'm read only, it seems |
13:13 | <racer> | :) with a reason? |
13:13 | <Chutt> | jens axboe's patch is already in mythtv cvs |
13:13 | <Chutt> | though i finished it |
13:13 | <Chutt> | not the half-done stuff he sent to the list. |
13:14 | <racer> | half-done which means? |
13:14 | <Chutt> | the ivtv-fb changes are already in his latest ivtv driver source. |
13:14 | <racer> | :) sorry get it |
13:14 | <m_arc> | Chutt: cvs from 3 hours ago didn't work for PAL |
13:14 | <Chutt> | m_arc, then fix it and send a patch. |
13:14 | <racer> | :) yes M-arc |
13:14 | <Chutt> | if the list doesn't accept your emails, you're not sending from the same address you subscribed as. |
13:15 | <m_arc> | Chutt: I'm good in trying out and noticing it doesn't work. And in complaining :-) |
13:15 | <Chutt> | i honestly couldn't care less about PAL |
13:15 | <m_arc> | thought so :-) |
13:15 | <Chutt> | so, good luck with your bitching |
13:16 | <racer> | :) |
13:16 | <m_arc> | no bitching, at least no intention |
13:16 | <m_arc> | just feverishly trying around, and glad to have found something that works |
13:16 | <D-side> | Chutt: mind if i ask you what may prove to be a stupid question? i'm all for being berated if it is. |
13:16 | <Chutt> | sure |
13:16 | <kvandivo> | can we all help berate if it is a stupid question? ;) |
13:16 | <D-side> | i'm having a problem with audio, and i found someone else on the list who also had it, but no resolution was ever posted. |
13:17 | <D-side> | left channel only, and the garbled to hell after a channel change. |
13:17 | <D-side> | the hardware is fine as it works great with an RH setup, but not on a brand new gentoo install. |
13:17 | <Chutt> | i'd say your audio driver was fucked up |
13:18 | <D-side> | its looking like it. f the nforce audio anyway. i'll pop in a live later. i was just wondering if you'd seen that issue before. thanks. |
13:18 | <D-side> | wonder if term ever fixed his stupid load problem. |
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13:22 | <thor_> | note since some idiot screwed up audio in a release |
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13:27 | <thor_> | are casts expensive ? |
13:27 | <thor_> | dynamic_cast ? |
13:27 | <Chutt> | dynamic_cast is more expensive than a standard c cast, yes |
13:27 | <thor_> | crap |
13:27 | <Chutt> | so it's probably not a good idea to do it all the time |
13:27 | <thor_> | so much for that idea |
13:27 | <Chutt> | but, it's the only way to do some things |
13:28 | <thor_> | oh well ... it will do for the moment |
13:30 | <racer> | i was trying to get a different color for the selected buttons, so i changed the qtlook.txt |
13:30 | <racer> | this is ok for allmost everyting but the dropdown boxes don't change from color |
13:30 | <racer> | and that is still anonying when u use the Remote and sit on the sofa |
13:36 | <racer> | is there another way to change the color of the boxes? |
13:38 | <thor_> | source type is not polymorphic <--- what the hell is that |
13:40 | <Chutt> | it's not polymorphic =) |
13:41 | <thor_> | too many friggin things holding containers of other things |
13:41 | <racer> | ok no answer thnx for your support guys! |
13:41 | <racer> | bye |
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13:43 | <thor_> | ahhhh |
13:44 | <Chutt> | yay, tmk merged everything |
13:44 | <Chutt> | now i can commit stuff |
13:47 | <sfr> | will that break recording when using an old ivtv driver? |
13:47 | <Chutt> | probably not recording |
13:47 | <Chutt> | actually, he didn't merge one patch in |
13:48 | <Chutt> | when that goes in, mythtv'll need to be updated as well, and it won't work with the old driver |
13:50 | <sfr> | ok |
13:51 | <De_Mon> | nulltank im biased towards debian |
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13:55 | <CyberKnet> | speaking of debian, what apt-get do i need to run to be able to run make menuconfig to configure the kernel? |
13:55 | <CyberKnet> | I have pretty much no packages installed except make and gcc |
13:55 | <CyberKnet> | (and, of course, the kernel source) |
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13:57 | <sfr> | CyberKnet: libncurses5-dev comes to mind |
13:58 | <CyberKnet> | thanks =) |
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14:03 | <CyberKnet> | man it's been a long time since I compiled a kernel =) |
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15:00 | <hadees> | anyone have any trouble using an irman with mythtv? |
15:00 | <hadees> | or should i say anyone using an irman with mythtv? |
15:01 | <thor_> | yup |
15:01 | <thor_> | well ... |
15:01 | <thor_> | no, yup |
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15:02 | <donk> | anyone got nuvexport? chris' site is gone/down? |
15:03 | <hadees> | really thor_ every time i try to install it i get errors about it not being able to connect to it, but irmanlib can talk to it fine |
15:03 | <hadees> | i don't get it |
15:04 | <thor_> | hadees, I installed it about a year ago and it has worked flawlessly since |
15:04 | <thor_> | libirman |
15:04 | <thor_> | then lirc on top of that |
15:05 | <hadees> | i did exaclty that... it's the last piece of the mythtv puzzle i can't figure out, oh well i am reinstalling everything mabey it will work this time |
15:05 | <thor_> | it's been so long, I don't really remember what I did ... but I can send you any config files you need |
15:07 | <hadees> | did you run the test program for lirc? |
15:08 | <thor_> | I remember running some record program to get all my remotes codes |
15:09 | <thor_> | and then putting a config file together |
15:09 | <hadees> | mabey it's been the test program all along... there is a test program you run to see if lirc install worked, thats where i get stuck |
15:10 | <hadees> | the test program doesn't connect, mabey for some reason it doesn't use libirman |
15:10 | <thor_> | try irrecord |
15:11 | <thor_> | (you got the HAVE_LIBIRMAN #def in your lirc config.h ?) |
15:12 | <o_cee> | the new filter stuff, what's it good for? what does denoise3d do? |
15:13 | <thor_> | it makes it much quiter about 6-7 feet in front of your tv |
15:13 | <thor_> | (i have no idea) |
15:13 | <o_cee> | heh, okay :) |
15:14 | <sfr> | i guess they don't work for h/w encoders? |
15:14 | <o_cee> | seems it's comming from mplayer, but a quick search didn't give me any info there either |
15:22 | <hadees> | thor_: you have to put that in? |
15:22 | <thor_> | no, ./configure should do it |
15:22 | <thor_> | but it has to be there |
15:23 | <thor_> | (at least that's the way it worked as of 0.6.6) |
15:23 | <hadees> | eh, i wish there was a cvs lirc ebuild, so i know i have the latest stuff |
15:23 | <hadees> | same with mythtv |
15:24 | <thor_> | mine is/was stock src package, 0.6.6 |
15:25 | <hadees> | eh oh well, who is working on mythweb? |
15:26 | <hadees> | i was just thinking of somthing mythweb would be perfect for, creating playlists for mythmusic |
15:26 | <hadees> | so you don't have to use a remote which is a pain |
15:27 | <thor_> | heh ... soon you'll be able to make 'em in iTunes |
15:29 | <o_cee> | iTunes fucked up 30gb:ish of music for me. moved all files, changed name and dirs. will take me weeks to restore. thank you apple. |
15:29 | <CyberKnet> | oooh I love it when that happens |
15:29 | <hadees> | hey apple is a million times better than windows |
15:29 | <hadees> | apple gives people what they want |
15:30 | <o_cee> | but iTunes was really crap. |
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15:30 | <hadees> | well it kind of new |
15:31 | <CyberKnet> | I've never had winamp mess with my filenames/dirs |
15:31 | <CyberKnet> | or xmms, for that matter =) |
15:31 | <hadees> | when was the last time microsoft came out with something as cool as an ipod, hell how about rewriting their entire OS to run on BSD |
15:31 | <CyberKnet> | hadees: true that |
15:31 | <thor_> | o_cee, Edit -->Preferences -->Advanced--> then uncheck Copy files to iTunes music folder .... |
15:31 | <CyberKnet> | hadees: but I think you'll find we all unanimously dislike microsoft software =) |
15:34 | <hadees> | yeah, i started on apple but had to switch to windows because of lack of software and now macos is bsd based i can finaly cut my ties with microsoft and to some extent intel (although i will still need them for my linux boxes) |
15:34 | <o_cee> | thor_: that's the strange part. i promise you it was unchecked. but it might have been because i did "import".. |
15:35 | | * o_cee is away: later |
15:35 | <CyberKnet> | I printed out the myth tv installation / users guide that robert wrote. Very nice. I had to import it into ms word (I was at work) and because robert had used such nice markup in the single page html, I was able to very easily add page numbers and a page-numbered table of contents. |
15:35 | <CyberKnet> | If robert is ever in oklahoma, I'm buying him a beer or two. |
15:36 | <thor_> | heh ... and then ask Word to save it as HTML ... hee hee |
15:36 | <hadees> | where is the install guide located CyberKnot? |
15:37 | <sfr> | Chutt has kicked hadees from #mythtv: learn to read :) |
15:37 | <CyberKnet> | thor_: that would rather undermine all of robert's hard work, no? =) |
15:37 | <CyberKnet> | hadees: mythtv website |
15:37 | <CyberKnet> | under documentation |
15:37 | <hadees> | oh thats the one he wrote |
15:37 | <hadees> | i thought it was one of the many other ones out about the internet |
15:37 | <hadees> | sorry |
15:38 | <CyberKnet> | I need to apt-get a ton of packages to make mythtv work, I think |
15:38 | <CyberKnet> | np hadees |
15:46 | <hadees> | anyone here us the lcd part of mythtv? |
15:46 | <hadees> | us = use |
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15:47 | <CyberKnet> | not I |
15:47 | <CyberKnet> | I haven't even used MythTV yet |
15:48 | <hadees> | i am just wondering what exaclty shows up on it, i have a vfd display on my htpc case |
15:52 | <thor_> | http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythtv/programs/mythlcd/Attic/mythlcd_screenshots.jpg |
15:54 | <donk> | anyone got nuvexport? chris' site is gone/down? |
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15:54 | <sfr> | donk: i have a version from mid-September here |
15:55 | <CyberKnet> | I think I need to dig up a mouse =( |
15:57 | <donk> | sfr:can u dcc? |
15:58 | <sfr> | donk: dcc waiting for you. |
15:59 | <donk> | sfr:thanks!! |
15:59 | <hadees> | mythtv uses an event loop to look for user input right? |
15:59 | <hadees> | anyone know what file it is in? |
16:00 | <thor_> | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.2/eventsandfilters.html |
16:01 | <hadees> | so it uses an event loop in qt? |
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16:06 | <CyberKnet> | aha! I just found out about apt-cache! I feel empowered =) |
16:10 | <CyberKnet> | Do you think a dual 733 will be able to encode/decode 480x480 rtjpeg simultaneously? |
16:10 | <CyberKnet> | erm ... not rtjpeg ... whatever bt848 uses |
16:10 | <CyberKnet> | sorry, I have to stop using terms I am not sure about. |
16:10 | <CyberKnet> | (733 = PIII 733) |
16:13 | <DogBoy> | probably not |
16:13 | <DogBoy> | I have a 1 gig and I set it lower than that |
16:14 | <DogBoy> | 733 is totally usable though, you'll just have to turn down the resolution a bit |
16:14 | <DogBoy> | the plus side is you'll have room for more shows |
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16:19 | <o_cee> | i'm getting an error compiling myth.. mythepg to be more specific |
16:20 | <o_cee> | no clue what this means.. |
16:20 | <o_cee> | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv.a(moc_scheduledrecording.o)(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTC24ScheduledRecordingEditor0_13SelectSetting+0x3c): undefined reference to `SelectSetting::fillSelectionsFromDir(QDir const&)' |
16:20 | <o_cee> | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv.a(moc_scheduledrecording.o)(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTC24ScheduledRecordingEditor0_14ListBoxSetting+0x3c): undefined reference to `SelectSetting::fillSelectionsFromDir(QDir const&)' |
16:20 | <o_cee> | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv.a(moc_scheduledrecording.o)(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTV24ScheduledRecordingEditor+0x3c): undefined reference to `SelectSetting::fillSelectionsFromDir(QDir const&)' |
16:20 | <o_cee> | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
16:20 | <sfr> | you are 2nd today. misc versionf of theme-ui.xml and libmyth. |
16:20 | <o_cee> | i did an update with -D.. strange |
16:20 | <kja> | try -f |
16:20 | <sfr> | oh, maybe not. should start learn to read :) |
16:21 | <o_cee> | strange |
16:22 | <o_cee> | -f didn't update anything |
16:22 | <o_cee> | same thing.. |
16:22 | <kja> | make distclean;make |
16:22 | <kja> | ? |
16:23 | <o_cee> | only did that in /mythepg |
16:23 | <o_cee> | but i'll do it for all i guess |
16:23 | <kja> | at least libs |
16:23 | <o_cee> | just did all, heh. guess that'll solve it.. |
16:24 | <kja> | great theme btw |
16:25 | <o_cee> | thanks :) |
16:25 | <o_cee> | off to the shower |
16:32 | <thor_> | hmmm ... shower ... swedish girlfriend .... this qualifies as too much information |
16:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
16:33 | <Chutt> | tmk's not been online recently |
16:33 | <thor_> | still waiting for one more of his revs to tie everything together |
16:34 | <Chutt> | naw |
16:34 | <thor_> | went and did it yourself I suppose |
16:37 | <Chutt> | naw |
16:38 | <thor_> | if I need new subdirectories in the mfd commit tree, it's just more import commands, correct? |
16:39 | <Chutt> | nope |
16:39 | <Chutt> | just add the directory |
16:39 | <Chutt> | then add the files under it |
16:39 | <thor_> | ah |
16:39 | <Chutt> | how's the mfd stuff going? |
16:39 | <thor_> | ok |
16:39 | <thor_> | very well |
16:39 | <thor_> | taken about a week to move the daapserver to a useable state |
16:39 | <thor_> | but it's about 95% there |
16:40 | <thor_> | and audio can occasionally play off an http:// url coming from the daapserver |
16:40 | <thor_> | get those things sorted, then think about video |
16:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
16:41 | <thor_> | trying to go very slowly .... get my thread bits right |
16:41 | <Chutt> | cool. |
16:41 | <thor_> | but I think I'm going to have to write a multithreaded persistent httpd server, which kinda sucks |
16:41 | <thor_> | s/write/adapt httpd to |
16:43 | <Chutt> | something like the existing backend structure doesn't work? |
16:44 | <thor_> | need real http with all the headers and 404's and stuff |
16:44 | <thor_> | multithreaded socket server is already there |
16:44 | <hadees> | has anyone made a boot splash for mythtv? |
16:44 | <thor_> | err |
16:45 | <thor_> | maybe that's already all in the backend |
16:45 | | * thor_ goes to look at mythbackend |
16:45 | <Chutt> | don't think it'd be difficult to add the headers and proper response codes to it |
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16:46 | <thor_> | the daap headers are a bitch .... everything has to bit-perfect, and there's a mountain of different ones ... but probably easier to adapt then work from scratch |
16:47 | <thor_> | (friggin stuff is almost impossible to debug .... can't cout it, as it's a big mish mash of things) |
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16:57 | <o_cee> | hadees: i've made one |
16:58 | <sfr> | that was a quick shower ;) |
16:58 | <o_cee> | i've made myself a drink as well :) |
16:58 | <o_cee> | hadees: send me a mail at oscar.carlsson@home.se and i'll send you the splashscreen when i've got time (not today) |
16:58 | <o_cee> | or search the list for bootsplash |
16:59 | <o_cee> | now, i'm off getting un-sober. later :) |
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17:06 | <kja> | Chutt, with the current code in cvs, when an aspect change is discovered, the reinit causes one frame to be misplaced in the buffer array, one frame with higher timecode each 15-17 frame... |
17:07 | <kja> | got any idea why this is happening (the buffers are torn down..)? |
17:09 | <toe> | hi all - what does 'Warning MVs not available' mean? |
17:10 | <kja> | that there is no information on where the slice is moving (i have no idea what i'm talking about, really:) |
17:11 | <toe> | :) |
17:13 | <toe> | actually I'm running mythfrontend remotely, getting no picture, just sound, with that error and 'end missmatch left=54' |
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17:16 | <toe> | ah - didnt realise I'd still get sound when the wrong input was set |
17:17 | <kja> | hmmm |
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17:56 | <thor_> | bing |
17:56 | <thor_> | (that was a light bulb floating above my head) |
17:56 | <sfr> | bong |
17:56 | <thor_> | name mangling and why it's a problem for plugins |
17:56 | <thor_> | is there anything smarter than declaring extern "C" for C++ methods ? |
17:57 | <CyberKnet> | anyone hae any idea why when I compile the alsa module for my sound card it might be telling me that there are unknown symbols? |
17:59 | <toe> | hi - I've a problem with latest ivtv CVS build: I configure for PAL and cat /dev/video0 > file works fine...then I run mythbackend and get only sound... If I kill mythbackend and then cat /dev/video0 again I get sound only there too - any ideas? |
17:59 | <sfr> | CyberKnet: the kernel source you compiled the alsa source against might not match to your running kernel |
18:00 | <CyberKnet> | sfr: That's what I thought too, but I just compiled my kernel from the same source |
18:00 | <thor_> | and booted with *that* kernel |
18:00 | <CyberKnet> | obviously though, I must be wrong somehow |
18:01 | <CyberKnet> | I'll recompile the kernel, I think |
18:01 | <CyberKnet> | then install it, reboot, and rebuild alsa |
18:01 | <CyberKnet> | then I should be golden, yes? |
18:01 | <sfr> | CyberKnet: are you running debian? |
18:02 | <CyberKnet> | yes |
18:03 | <sfr> | apt-get alsa-source kernel-package ; make-kpkg is what you want to use, really. |
18:03 | <sfr> | and install of course |
18:03 | <CyberKnet> | why do I want to use make-kpkg? |
18:04 | <sfr> | it's just a very nice tool for kernel/modules compiling. |
18:04 | <CyberKnet> | aah. |
18:04 | <CyberKnet> | I've never used it before |
18:06 | <CyberKnet> | which isn't to say I wont use it, just that I never have =) |
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18:24 | <kja> | Chutt, if you happen to be around, or read this in the backlog, avformatdecoder actually passes the frames in the right order, so there has to be something wrong with the output frame buffers. |
18:25 | <kja> | the strange thing is that this will not happen on avcodec reinit, but only on aspect change.. |
18:25 | <kja> | ..which uses the same routine to do the job. |
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18:30 | <thor_> | kja, total guess, but perhaps some additional overhead of changing aspect changes the firing order of some sub threads ? |
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18:33 | <kja> | thor, the thing is, that changing the aspect is a fairly light task, but the current cvs code does much more, exactly like a resolution change, a patch posted earlier fixes this, but the issue is still around.. |
18:33 | <kja> | and there is plenty of locks between the avformatdecoder thread and videooutput thread |
18:33 | <thor_> | kja, as I said, total guess ... I just have thread waitcondition logic on the brain at the moment |
18:34 | <kja> | thanks for the hint Thor, but the issue is a deeper one, i'm afraid |
18:35 | <kja> | how is the myth frontend daemon coming along, Thor? |
18:35 | <thor_> | well ... having solved the mystery of name mangling ... it's moving along |
18:36 | <kja> | is the readme regulary updated, so I could track it that way? |
18:36 | <thor_> | hasn't been a commit in about a week ... there will be useful one shortly (today/tomorrow) |
18:37 | <kja> | very cool Thor, i'm looking forward to it |
18:38 | <kja> | i'm exxpecting much of it (and if it's not there, hoping to contribute) |
18:39 | <mrra> | Anyone here familiar with the IRdeo remote? |
18:41 | <kja> | Chutt, don't bother with it, I will have a closer look at how the buffers are emptied, torn down, rebuildt, and refilled |
18:49 | <sfr> | anyone here from NL? |
18:54 | <kja> | NO :) |
18:55 | <sfr> | kja: did you had problems going back to CET? |
18:56 | <kja> | i changed my tv_grab_sn timezone setting from CET to GMT... |
18:57 | <kja> | Chutt mentioned that mythfilldatabase will not (ever) anything else than numeric timezone from grabbers... |
18:58 | <kja> | accept should be in there |
18:58 | <sfr> | and tv_grab_sn outputs the timezone as 'CET' and not '+0100'? |
18:58 | <kja> | yea |
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19:01 | <sfr> | having 50+ times if... = "CET" else if "CEST" doesn't look right to me but would be easy to add |
19:05 | <kja> | could there be some common libc function that does this conversion? |
19:06 | <kja> | if there was a one-four liner to fix it, i would bet it would be accepted :) |
19:07 | <sfr> | i have nooo idea. :) anyone knows? but i have a c/c++ textbook in front of me, maybe something is mentioned there. |
19:07 | <thor_> | mod tv_grab_sn with a --use-numbers flag ? |
19:08 | <kja> | yea, that is a solution, but it does not cover other grabbers.. |
19:08 | <sfr> | iirc the DK grabber also suffers from that |
19:09 | <kja> | maybe a global tv_grab_** would do |
19:10 | <kja> | flag should be in there you know :) |
19:10 | <kja> | but then again, it's perl, and not very nice ;) hehe |
19:12 | <thor_> | #define CET +0100 |
19:13 | <sfr> | hm, quickly thought about that. would 'timezones.h' be acceptable? |
19:13 | <sfr> | in fact i didn't. does that define a string CET? |
19:17 | <kja> | what about libc's getdate? |
19:19 | | * sfr reads getdates manpage |
19:20 | <kja> | sorry, no need to, i'm drunk, and only searching =) |
19:21 | | * kja is searching for a replacement... |
19:23 | <sfr> | advise from the minister of health: don't drink and chat :) |
19:24 | | * kja thinks that it was close, and will never chat and drink at the same time, the drink sits on the table while (/me) chats ;) |
19:32 | <kja> | nope, didn't find anything usefull, guess is that libc don't handle timezone's |
19:33 | <kja> | find anything sfr? |
19:33 | <kvandivo> | is this the real thing.... or is this just fantasy... |
19:33 | <kvandivo> | caught in a landslide..... no escape from reality.. |
19:34 | <sfr> | a great song |
19:34 | <kvandivo> | hmm... must... get... sound.. going... on this machine |
19:34 | <sfr> | nah, you're a great singer. |
19:35 | | * kvandivo wonders if he should go the alsa route. |
19:35 | <sfr> | kja: sure, 'Convert it to timestamp and minus TIMEZONE * 3600' using postgres. should work in mysql as well :) |
19:35 | | * kja kicks kvandivo over to http://www.mythtv.org/docs |
19:35 | <kvandivo> | can't seem to find any kernel drivers for my new on board sound.. |
19:35 | <kja> | sfr, mmmm, does a patch come with that? |
19:36 | <kvandivo> | ya, kja, i'm well aware of /docs.. not to the point yet of really worrying about myth.. |
19:36 | <kvandivo> | just recently got hyperthreading working.. |
19:36 | <kja> | k |
19:36 | <kja> | just tired of doing support sessions which exceeds 20 minutes |
19:37 | <kja> | development, then i'm in ;) |
19:37 | <kvandivo> | well, i wasn't actaully asking for support, myself.. just making conversation to liven up a dull session, in fact.. :) |
19:40 | <kja> | used to work in a electronics shop (or whatever u name it), which (along with certain other things) drove me nuts.. |
19:43 | <kja> | kvandivo: so, is hyperthreading worth the buck? ie, is it as good as dual? |
19:48 | <kvandivo> | well, i've got it showing two cpu's just like you'd expect from a dual... but i haven't done any benchmarking on it. |
19:48 | <kvandivo> | on the xeons it showed 30% or so with good apps on 2.4 kernels, and as much as 50% on 2.6 test kernels |
19:49 | <kvandivo> | i just actually the kernel recompiled with the necessary options to get it going a little bit ago |
19:49 | <kvandivo> | had to spend a fair amount of time with the networking before that, etc etc.. what I had planned to be a drop in and forget about it mission this morning has turned into an all day affair |
19:50 | <sfr> | 30%, not bad. |
19:50 | <kja> | from what i've read, the intel proprietary hyperthreading is just what it is, a hype...? |
19:50 | <kvandivo> | http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-htl/ |
19:50 | <kja> | , so i bought a dual athlon mp system instead |
19:51 | <kvandivo> | well, you are always going to be better off with 2 physical processors. :) |
19:51 | <kja> | that is ibm, you don't have any software by ibm on your computer? |
19:51 | <kvandivo> | that article is going on a year old now |
19:52 | <kvandivo> | umm.. hmm.. i don't think i currently have any official ibm software on here.. i'd have to verify that i have sun's java |
19:52 | | * kja loads the page for kicks |
19:53 | <kja> | hmm, the culprint is could and may :) |
19:53 | <kvandivo> | the MD simulation code from where I work saw about a 30% increase from HT. alas, the additional cost made us go with 2600+ MPs as well |
19:56 | <kja> | though, i must say i've gotten fond of the work israel is doing in light, and also releasing it commercially |
20:04 | | * sfr goes to bed now. bye, bye |
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20:05 | | * kja thinks sfr didn't have the guts to make the patch, even when he found the key... :( |
20:07 | <kja> | Experimental AV sync won't work properly with 4496 |
20:07 | <kja> | uups |
20:08 | <kja> | is Chutt around now, or is he still working on *his girlfriend*? |
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20:17 | | * kja is going out fishing for girls... |
20:20 | <hadees> | has anyone made a boot splash for mythtv? |
20:20 | | * kja wonders if there will be one sensible post in mythtv-users when i come back... |
20:21 | <kja> | hades: search the gossamer threads, o_cee made one |
20:21 | <kja> | ! |
20:24 | <hadees> | found it, nice did anyone make any others for the other themes? |
20:25 | <kja> | nope, not that we now of, you are offcorse free to make one?... |
20:26 | <kja> | he is currently making a theme so he is busy, if that thought ever crossed your mind |
20:29 | <hadees> | i might try to make one only problem is i have no clue how gimp works, i was always used to photoshop |
20:29 | <hadees> | need to learn how to use gimp |
20:30 | <kja> | read the manual that comes with it, you never bothered to learn it should be your phrase |
20:36 | | * kja thinks hadees is actually reading a document for the first time in his lifetime! |
20:37 | <hadees> | i read all the time, i just made my full transfer over to linux like 5 months ago |
20:37 | <hadees> | i've been learning how to do everything |
20:38 | <kja> | sorry, never meant to slam you down again, i've read all o' em |
20:39 | <hadees> | eh thats okay, i know i'm a noob at linux, the way i figure it i needed to learn how to use it so i went straigh in, total emersion |
20:40 | <hadees> | so i tend to screw up alot |
20:40 | <hadees> | no windows to fall back on |
20:40 | <kja> | never questioned the manuals at anytime, but certainly needed some help when i started coding for the MythTV project, and got it, because my goal was different.... |
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20:47 | <kja> | btw, i tried linux for the first time back in '94, and belive me, there was not a lot of documentation atound back then, since then i've wandered back and forth, both looking at the linux/windows kernels! |
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21:06 | <hadees> | kja: anyone make a grub screen for mythtv to match the blue theme? |
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21:28 | <kvandivo> | just ran across a strange little bug.. i went to live tv, and it told me the tuner was busy. i went to view recordings, and the top one wasn't yellow. went to 6544 and it thought the backend was recording. come to find out, the time on my frontend was off by an hour, and apparently the color highlighting in the scheduled recording is based off of whether or not the frontend thinks a recording is taking place, as opposed to whether |
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21:32 | <kja> | kvadivo: you'd be bether off posting that to the mythtv-users list, or mythttv-dev if you are prepared to answer some questions |
21:37 | <kvandivo> | i thought you were going fishing |
21:41 | <kvandivo> | Captain_Murdoch: you around? |
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21:45 | <kja> | kvadivo: if i had the power to do so, i would have kicked you the hell out of this channel with that statement. |
21:49 | <kja> | kvandivo: how's your girlfriend btw, i belive i've crossed paths with her tonight |
21:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kvandivo: just for a little while. |
21:50 | <kvandivo> | great.. does the frontend tell the backend to commericial skip, or doe the backend do that for the frontend? |
21:50 | <kvandivo> | ie., does the frontend say frame X is here, backend.. skip this.. |
21:51 | <kvandivo> | or does the backend keep track and send an abbreviated version to the frontend |
21:51 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kvandivo: yeah the frontend doesn't query the backend to actually find out what's recording, it assumes that if a show in the playback box has an endtime < now then it must be recording. |
21:51 | <kvandivo> | i've added it to my list of things to fix. :) |
21:51 | <Captain_Murdoch> | frontend does all commercial skip. backend does the auto-flag detection. frontend can also do it's own detection for blank frames if you don't auto-flag. |
21:52 | <kvandivo> | ok. I'm digging through the code for the Skip X seconds (that shows up in the dialog box) to see if i can hack in a quick version of what we had talked about a couple of days ago |
21:52 | <kvandivo> | (mid level stuff) |
21:53 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok. |
21:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | so this is to add the message to say how long the commercial that just started is? |
21:56 | <kvandivo> | ya.. and not autoskip it |
21:58 | <kja> | why not autoskip it, i don't want to see any commercial, kvandivo? |
21:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you might want to add that to AutoCommercialSkip() then. so the autocommercialskip variable could be 0, 1, or 2. 0 is off, 1 is on, 2 is 'mid'. so inside AutoCommercialSkip check for 2 then if framesPlayed > commBreakIter.key() then you popup the OSD box. |
21:58 | <kvandivo> | looking at that code now. :) |
21:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kja, we're talking about for cases where the commercial detection doesn't work well enough. |
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21:59 | <kja> | ahh, thanx capt. |
21:59 | <Captain_Murdoch> | the guy that wrote that code is an idiot, I'm supprised it works as well as it does. ;) |
22:00 | <kvandivo> | everyone gets lucky on occasion |
22:00 | <kja> | hmmm |
22:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, poor sap. |
22:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kja, I wrote it, just so you don't get any bad ideas.... |
22:01 | <kja> | ;), was close to a comment about you could rewrite it;) |
22:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I've got some code most of the way working to detect logos so I can try to use that info to help eliminate false positives. need to get back to working on that, haven't touched it in a month or so. |
22:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | blank frame detection works pretty good for me so I'm not as motivated as I was to begin with. |
22:03 | <kvandivo> | i have pretty good luck with it.. like you were saying, if we could get a combo of all these, where it can do it automatically, or it can just tell you, or you can turn it off/on during a viewing.. we'd be set |
22:04 | <kja> | I've not actually tested the automatic com. detection myself,, |
22:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'd like to see someone write something that allows you to list/view shows by category or something. Rather than just by title/subtitle, have a way to list by say 'Movies', 'Comedy', 'Drama', etc. |
22:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kja, you don't know what you're missing. :) |
22:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | actually, I don't know what you're seeing, since you're seeing comms and I'm not. ;) |
22:04 | | * kvandivo smirks. |
22:05 | <kja> | hmm, been concentrating on getting dvb on it's feet ;) |
22:05 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I actually had to go try to find out what new shows were coming on this fall cause I never saw any previews for them since I skip comms. |
22:05 | <kvandivo> | me too! |
22:06 | <Captain_Murdoch> | found out about some while watching that goofy "NBC in flight" on a United airlines flight the week before they aired |
22:06 | <kvandivo> | did it have the guy from Lyon's den and the gal from Miss Match on it? (i've totally went blank on their names) |
22:07 | <kvandivo> | they had a 30 minute special on regular tv about the upcoming shows |
22:08 | <CyberKnet> | urgh. I still cant get alsa to install without having undefined symbols |
22:08 | <kja> | alsa is incomplete... |
22:08 | <CyberKnet> | ? |
22:09 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kvandivo: yeah. rob lowe and that girl from clueless I think. alicia silverstone |
22:09 | <kvandivo> | ya.. those names sound right.. she'll always be "the gal from the aerosmith videos' to me. ;) |
22:10 | <Captain_Murdoch> | never saw those or clueless for that matter, just remember some dude at work going gah-gah (sic?) over her in that movie when it came out. |
22:11 | | * Captain_Murdoch just setup to record one episode of Enterprise and Alias since they supposedly do bad on comm detection. |
22:11 | <kvandivo> | jackass is the absolute worst i've seen on comm detection |
22:13 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll make a note of that and maybe try it sometime as well. as it is, I have 4-5 hours of stuff now from other shows to test with as well. |
22:15 | <kja> | there is nothing wrong with you requesing recordings fron others,,is there? |
22:16 | <kja> | bah, anyway, since i'm not in the com. detection ring, i'll bug out |
22:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | same as swapping videotapes. I believe Myth will never officially support any automated way of sharing videos like that though because Isaac doesn't want to open up that can of worms and put Myth on the wrong person/company's radar. |
22:17 | <kja> | but that is rather a method of charing, and avi's wotrk fine here...ranscodec <> 'd |
22:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I've got a couple samples from German TV that I got from another user. watching Spin City and Scream 3 dubbed is kinda interesting. |
22:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kinda like watching the dubbed version of the original Mad Max |
22:17 | <kja> | ;) |
22:18 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I need to get back to work as well. putting in another one of those closet organizer units. bbl maybe |
22:18 | <kja> | really, lately, i've been playing everything with mythtv..maybe just me? |
22:19 | <kvandivo> | enjoy, Capt |
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22:22 | <kja> | yea, nye... |
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22:24 | <kja> | clear |
22:24 | <kja> | ups |
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22:48 | <Ogmios> | hello room |
22:49 | <Ogmios> | question, if I add a show to the mysql DB by hand, what else do I need to do to get mythtv to see it and start recording. I tried restarting the backend |
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22:50 | <Ogmios> | I am writing a web interface so I can add a show remotely on any device with a web browser |
22:51 | <Ogmios> | anyone? |
22:51 | <dwmurphy> | q: is there a known issue with nuvexport-2003-10-07 running for a while then stopping before writing complete output files? i can't seem to transcode to dvx :( |
22:52 | <Ogmios> | they dont talk much dwmurphy |
22:54 | <dwmurphy> | i just leave it there until someone wanders by and reads it :) |
22:55 | <Ogmios> | hehe i guess they are too busy watching tv |
22:56 | <kvandivo> | Ogmios: why don't you look at mythweb.. sounds like it does what you want |
22:56 | <Ogmios> | oooh |
22:56 | <Ogmios> | ok thanks |
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23:20 | <hadees> | anyone have any problems with ivtv compiling recently? |
23:20 | <hadees> | i have everything in my kernel and i get this error |
23:20 | <hadees> | ivtv-driver.c: In function `ivtv_probe': |
23:20 | <hadees> | ivtv-driver.c:1588: incompatible types in assignment |
23:20 | <hadees> | make: *** [ivtv-driver.o] Error 1 |
23:50 | | * Ripp is away: AFK |
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