| --- | Log | opened Fri Nov 07 00:00:25 2003 |
| 00:00 | <thor_> | I'm just trying to follow the chain ... don't really know anything about this code +) |
| 00:00 | <thor_> | =) |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:01 | -!- | Doukegata is now known as Doukegata|riseki |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | maybe it's overwriting data |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | where are you looking now? |
| 00:05 | <thor_> | I'm still trying to figure out where the filters come from |
| 00:05 | <thor_> | heh |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | filters/ |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | other directory |
| 00:06 | <thor_> | ah |
| 00:13 | <thor_> | if I rip out the filter directory (so there are no filters to load) |
| 00:13 | <thor_> | the OSD works |
| 00:13 | <thor_> | ... that may be obvious |
| 00:14 | <Octane> | can someone please explain to me how the connections work if you have a digital cable box... box to tuner.... svideo out to tv.... soundcard to speakers? |
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| 00:17 | <Octane> | i just wanna make sure im doing everything righ |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | thor, can you maybe see what filters are getting called? |
| 00:19 | <thor_> | yeah |
| 00:19 | <thor_> | trying to do that now |
| 00:20 | <Chutt> | know what to do? |
| 00:20 | <Octane> | was my question hard? |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | octane, no, no one cares to answer |
| 00:21 | <thor_> | Chutt, not exactly |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | this isn't a tech support channel. |
| 00:21 | <Octane> | why you gotta be like that? im just asking a simple question |
| 00:21 | <Octane> | because im wondering if i need to do something with line in |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | because this isn't a tech support channel, and you're being annoying? |
| 00:22 | <Octane> | youre stuck up |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | i'll be happy to refund you every cent you've paid for tech support |
| 00:22 | <Octane> | swallow your pride dude |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | oh wait |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | thor, well, i don't see the filter name stored anywhere =) |
| 00:23 | <Octane> | with all the bitching you spit you could have answered my question instead of being so proud |
| 00:24 | <thor_> | yeah |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | so, i dunno, maybe just see how many filters its calling in FilterChain::ProcessFrame |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | or maybe hook into LoadFilters and get a list of everything it loads there |
| 00:25 | <thor_> | I'm gonna add name in the loading, then have them print as they process ... I hope |
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| 00:26 | <Chutt> | your capture res is 480x480, right? |
| 00:26 | <thor_> | yes |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | oh, wait |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | you can just print out VF->info->name |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | i think |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | in ProcessFrame |
| 00:28 | <thor_> | ah |
| 00:28 | <thor_> | ok, I'll try that |
| 00:35 | <thor_> | suppose "make install" would help |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | generally =) |
| 00:35 | <warlord> | you mean you can't run it out of the build tree? |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | not if it's looking for stuff in installed locations |
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| 00:36 | <thor_> | seems like just linearblend |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | the filters don't fall back to looking under the current directory |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | iirc |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | thor, ok, can you add some debugging statements to filter_linearblend.c? |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | see where it changes? |
| 00:37 | <thor_> | 1 sec |
| 00:37 | <thor_> | OSD seems to now be working |
| 00:37 | <thor_> | (hang on...) |
| 00:38 | | * kvandivo waits with baited breath. |
| 00:38 | <thor_> | WTF ? |
| 00:38 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 00:39 | <Chutt> | any way it could have been an old filter lib somewhere? |
| 00:39 | <manu> | hi all |
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| 00:40 | <manu> | Does anyone experience lock up (hard reset only) during recording? |
| 00:40 | <kvandivo> | if it is truly a hard lock, myth isn't doing it |
| 00:41 | <thor_> | I am now really confused |
| 00:42 | <josephk_> | welcome to my world |
| 00:42 | <warlord> | and what a fun world it is... |
| 00:42 | <manu> | The thing is that happened several times, every time when I programmed a recording. I chased in the logs but nothing there. |
| 00:42 | <Chutt> | you have hardware/driver issues. |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | but ... but ... |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | thor, does it still happen on the other machine? =) |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | yeah |
| 00:45 | <thor_> | and liblinerblend is exactly the same size |
| 00:45 | <manu> | Hmm that's what I thought, but I can look for hours at LiveTV, I can work also for really long time. But you are telling me that (at that time one mythbackend was running, I exited mythfrontend already) cannot lock up the box? |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | thor, dunno at all |
| 00:45 | <josephk_> | lock up the process maybe...shouldn't take down the box |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | s/shouldn't/can't/ |
| 00:46 | <thor_> | I believe I am going to do a make distclean ... |
| 00:46 | <warlord> | manu: myth by itself cannot lock up the machine. it may lock the frontend, but you should still be able to ping the box, ssh in, and kill the frontend process. |
| 00:47 | <manu> | OK OK I give up ;-) But it makes me crazy : each I programmed my box it locked up (perhaps there is something about dpms going mad, I don't know. Thanks anyway |
| 00:47 | <warlord> | define "locked up"? |
| 00:47 | <warlord> | does it not ping? |
| 00:47 | <warlord> | Can you not ssh in? |
| 00:48 | <warlord> | (failing to respond to the remote control is not "locking up") |
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| 00:48 | <Chutt> | that's lirc dying =) |
| 00:48 | <manu> | I did not try, I will next time. I think I will set up a test recording, run the backend under gdb and see what happens. |
| 00:49 | <warlord> | Chutt: not necessarily -- it could be the frontend hanging... |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | yeah, but lirc dies |
| 00:49 | <manu> | But the lock up was : the screen stayed off even when moving mouse, pressing any keyboard... |
| 00:49 | <warlord> | ok. I've never noticed it dying.. |
| 00:51 | <warlord> | anyways, time for me to head out. good night, all. |
| 00:51 | <warlord> | Chutt: thanks for all your hard work on myth! |
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| 00:52 | <thor_> | ah |
| 00:52 | <thor_> | I suspect the filters don't have deps on filtermanager |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | probably not |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | did make distclean fix it? |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | but, they were all built at the same time... |
| 00:53 | <thor_> | I am rebuilding |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | or should've been, all of them got modified at the same time the filter stuff went in |
| 00:55 | <thor_> | oddly, trying to get back to a state where OSD does *not* work |
| 00:55 | <manu> | Thanks guys, I'll be back ;-) with a stacktrace I hope. |
| 00:55 | <manu> | Bye |
| 00:56 | <josephk_> | mythbackend increases the load on my machine to 12...my machine locks up as it overheats...is it myth's fault?...hehe |
| 00:56 | <manu> | Hmm before I leave : no overheat with my box ;-) |
| 00:57 | <josephk_> | what distro? |
| 00:57 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:59 | <manu> | MDK 9.2, I have no problem with it except that. Actually I already tried to watch at LiveTV and makeing a compilation at the same time (reniced), and it was OK. Moreover the Ram is not a noname (so I hope there is no problem there). |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | mythbrowser has a serious memleak =) |
| 01:00 | <manu> | Just to be sure : it can still lock up the box in the sense that I can only manage to do something via network? |
| 01:00 | <Chutt> | no |
| 01:01 | <manu> | Oh and as a last question : sometimes the LiveTV stops with message on the console like "waiting for ..." which seems like the frontend waits in vain for the backend. |
| 01:02 | <manu> | It only happened "sometimes" meaning not often, and completely unpredictable |
| 01:02 | <josephk_> | that would be my problem:) |
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| 01:02 | <josephk_> | I guess I should move to 9.2 |
| 01:04 | <josephk_> | you should be able to do anything independent of whichever process is borked...if you have a second term open you should be able to use it |
| 01:06 | <manu> | I was not. Even tried to switch VT but it did not work. This is weird, I really want to see if it is hardware related. Actually I will try it from the text console (that is only mythbackend will be running, no X, because it could be that dpms is going mad or whatever after a certain time) |
| 01:07 | <josephk_> | xset s off |
| 01:07 | <josephk_> | also |
| 01:07 | <manu> | The weirdest thing is : in each case I set up the recording and leave the box alone :( for a long time, and then each time it began to record and stopped between half an hour to an hour after the begging of the record. |
| 01:08 | <manu> | josephk_, yes actually the screen was off already (xset dpms force off ;-) |
| 01:11 | <manu> | I guess we can only make some wild guesses for now, I will come back with something more solid (that stack trace...) |
| 01:11 | <manu> | But thanks anyway, I just wanted to see if this was something already known before going to gdb/whatever thing. |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | ah, no, it's not mythbrowser with the leak, same thing happens in konq |
| 01:13 | <manu> | Bye all |
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| 01:13 | <thor_> | hmmm |
| 01:14 | <thor_> | konq has a leak ... |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | cvs konq =) |
| 01:14 | <josephk_> | he'll be back |
| 01:14 | <josephk_> | hehe |
| 01:14 | <thor_> | ah |
| 01:19 | <kvandivo> | i believe i had mythbackend running when the california fires started. I'll bet that's to blame for them. |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | i agree |
| 01:20 | <thor_> | not to mention all those friggin sunspots (talk about your instantaneous attraction at a distance) |
| 01:22 | <Chutt> | thor, so, no luck reproducing it? |
| 01:23 | <josephk_> | when I bought the parts for my computer I dropped them....I blame the myth website for displaying screenshots |
| 01:25 | <josephk_> | you and your snazzy screenshots chutt |
| 01:25 | <josephk_> | can't you ugly it up a bit? |
| 01:25 | <josephk_> | maybe throw in some footage of kvan |
| 01:25 | <josephk_> | :D |
| 01:25 | <thor_> | rebuilt from a make ditclean |
| 01:26 | <thor_> | and the OSD works |
| 01:26 | <thor_> | which is truly odd |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | allright, then |
| 01:27 | <thor_> | but the other box still don't do OSD |
| 01:27 | <josephk_> | "<-insert glib response here->" |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | even after a distclean? |
| 01:27 | <kvandivo> | what version of glib, jo? |
| 01:27 | <thor_> | yup |
| 01:27 | <thor_> | distclean != fresh checkout (?) |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | naw, same diff |
| 01:28 | <Chutt> | except for the very top level makefile sticks around after a distclean |
| 01:28 | <Teflon--> | damn, my wife needs to learn to delete recordings. |
| 01:28 | <Teflon--> | 200gb full! |
| 01:28 | <josephk_> | hehe |
| 01:28 | <Teflon--> | and i'm out of blank dvds |
| 01:28 | <thor_> | well, as I need to go to sleep, I will do a checkout on this box and build from there |
| 01:29 | <kvandivo> | hmm.. "teflon--".. is that like wax on metal or something? |
| 01:29 | <thor_> | if the OSD is working in the morning |
| 01:29 | <thor_> | I will suggest that Wittgenstein was indeed correct |
| 01:29 | <Teflon--> | lol kvandivo |
| 01:29 | -!- | Teflon-- is now known as Teflon- |
| 01:29 | <thor_> | even analytical propositions are the product of social context |
| 01:30 | <thor_> | (whish me luck) |
| 01:30 | <Teflon-> | good luck. |
| 01:30 | <kvandivo> | may you achieve whirled peas. |
| 01:32 | <josephk_> | anarkiesh |
| 01:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:33 | <Chutt> | i _hope_ it turns out to be a dependency thing |
| 01:33 | <Chutt> | because i can't find anything even remotely wrong that could cause this |
| 01:35 | <Teflon-> | i really need to look into why i get jitter during playback of the MPEG-2 DVD streams but not when they're played on a PC or Mac or burnt DVD on a dvd player. |
| 01:35 | <thor_> | I dunno |
| 01:35 | <thor_> | it's clearly still not working on the other box |
| 01:35 | <thor_> | which was a fresh checkout earlier today |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | odd |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | time to throw valgrind at it, i'd say :( |
| 01:37 | <thor_> | ok, fresh co is building, I go beddy bye |
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| 01:37 | <Chutt> | g'nite |
| 01:38 | <hadees> | is myth caller id in cvs? |
| 01:38 | <Chutt> | no |
| 01:38 | <Chutt> | i've not had enough time to go through that all yet |
| 01:38 | <hadees> | did the guy post the patch to the mailing list? |
| 01:38 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:38 | <hadees> | thx |
| 01:39 | <Teflon-> | hey do any of you guys(gals) use a different system for playback than you use for the backend? |
| 01:40 | <josephk_> | used to |
| 01:40 | <josephk_> | but then chutt told me I was doing it wrong so I can help no one |
| 01:40 | <josephk_> | lol |
| 01:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:40 | <Teflon-> | lol |
| 01:40 | <Chutt> | you were =) |
| 01:41 | <Chutt> | teflon, yes, i do at times |
| 01:41 | <Teflon-> | i've got an athlon 1800+ running a pvr-250 in dvd recording mode, 4.4mbps-5.1mbps recording rate. |
| 01:41 | <josephk_> | well I blame a lack of clear documentation...hahaha |
| 01:41 | <Teflon-> | using msi geforce4 MX440 and nvidia drivers, etc. |
| 01:42 | <Teflon-> | i get high load and lots of jitter during playback no matter what options i select. |
| 01:42 | <Teflon-> | various cvs versions |
| 01:42 | <Chutt> | it bitches about lack of xv on the console? |
| 01:42 | <Teflon-> | the jitter isn't annoying except in Scifi shows |
| 01:42 | <josephk_> | what resolution? |
| 01:42 | <Teflon-> | checking! |
| 01:43 | <Teflon-> | 800x600 |
| 01:43 | <Teflon-> | 24 bit |
| 01:43 | <josephk_> | I mean the recording |
| 01:43 | <Teflon-> | hmmm dvd standard.. checking. |
| 01:43 | <Teflon-> | 720x480 |
| 01:44 | <Teflon-> | framespergop 15 gop_closure 1 stream_type 10 |
| 01:44 | <Chutt> | does it bitch about not being able to use xv |
| 01:44 | <Teflon-> | no dnr |
| 01:44 | <Teflon-> | dont think so. checking. |
| 01:44 | <Chutt> | load should be pretty negligible |
| 01:44 | <Teflon-> | (II) Loading extension XVideo |
| 01:44 | <Teflon-> | (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation |
| 01:45 | <Chutt> | that doesn't really matter =) |
| 01:45 | <Chutt> | it's if mythtv can use it or not |
| 01:45 | <Teflon-> | Chutt, my load is usually about 1 when backend is recording, 3 when playing and recording, but CPU use is about 75% playback 0% recording. |
| 01:45 | <Teflon-> | yes, dma is on. |
| 01:45 | <Teflon-> | so check the mythfrontend output? |
| 01:45 | <Chutt> | yes. |
| 01:46 | <o_cee> | oooohkay, back the qtlook.txt.. |
| 01:46 | <o_cee> | Chutt: is there a way do change the path of the mythweather images with an xml just like for mythmusic? |
| 01:47 | <Chutt> | where do the mythweather images get installed to? |
| 01:47 | <o_cee> | they're in default |
| 01:47 | <Chutt> | you can override them by placing a same-named image in your theme, then |
| 01:48 | <o_cee> | yeah, but i'd like to structurize it a little and put them in /weather or something.. possible with music images, because all those are defined in music-ui.xml |
| 01:48 | <Chutt> | don't think you can with the weather stuff |
| 01:48 | <Teflon-> | sec, fixing my myth startup to log the output |
| 01:48 | <o_cee> | okay |
| 01:49 | <Teflon-> | 2003-11-07 01:49:26 Using XV port 105 |
| 01:49 | <o_cee> | btw, does processing.png actually work? i've never seen it in action |
| 01:49 | <Chutt> | don't think so |
| 01:50 | <Chutt> | teflon, ok, so, not that, then |
| 01:50 | <o_cee> | heh, okay. it's supposed to show when transcoding? |
| 01:50 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 01:50 | <Chutt> | don't know what it's used for |
| 01:50 | <josephk_> | try 544x480 teflon |
| 01:50 | <o_cee> | i'll do some grepping like you tought me ;) |
| 01:50 | <josephk_> | see if there is a change in cpu required |
| 01:50 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | 70% extremely high |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | should be 5% or so at most |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | with deinterlacing turned on |
| 01:51 | <josephk_> | never quite had 5% with deinterlacing off |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | well, maybe 10-15, depending |
| 01:51 | <Teflon-> | josephk_, can't reliably playback 544x480 on dvd players so thats not acceptable to me. i'd rather put in a dedicated playback box. |
| 01:52 | <josephk_> | I just mean for testing |
| 01:52 | <josephk_> | lol |
| 01:52 | <Teflon-> | okay, sec. |
| 01:52 | <Chutt> | nvidia card should be using the 4363 driver, with deinterlace playback, jitter reduction, experimental a/v sync, and extra audio buffering turned on |
| 01:52 | <Teflon-> | i'm checking the LVM set to ensure it has indeed got DMA on |
| 01:52 | <Chutt> | just as a general rule |
| 01:53 | <josephk_> | 4363 is da bomb |
| 01:53 | <josephk_> | diggitty |
| 01:53 | <Teflon-> | XFree 4.3.0 Nvidia 4363 |
| 01:53 | <Teflon-> | deint, jitter, exp sync and audio buffering on |
| 01:53 | <Teflon-> | tried all diff combos of those :) |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:53 | <josephk_> | noatime on your recording drive? |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | you should have perfectly smooth playback, then |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | ah well, back in a sec |
| 01:53 | <Teflon-> | josephk_, checking |
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| 01:54 | <josephk_> | IVTV: timing out waiting for firmware |
| 01:54 | <Teflon-> | fuck, dma got turned off on one of the two drives making up the LVM ... |
| 01:54 | <josephk_> | that sound bad?:D |
| 01:56 | <josephk_> | well I'm going to bed...I have to go to work this time |
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| 01:56 | <josephk_> | ;D |
| 01:57 | | * josephk_ is away: I'm actually away...I don't believe me either |
| 01:57 | <Teflon-> | well that is much better. |
| 01:57 | <Teflon-> | Chutt, DMA got turned off due to a read error |
| 01:57 | <Teflon-> | i hate linux! |
| 01:57 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:58 | <Teflon-> | Nov 5 22:02:56 slinky kernel: hdd: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } |
| 01:58 | <Teflon-> | Nov 5 22:02:56 slinky kernel: hdc: DMA disabled |
| 01:58 | <Teflon-> | tell me why it turned off DMA on hdc when hdd had the error? |
| 01:58 | <Teflon-> | sigh |
| 01:58 | | * josephk_ says he knows linux and linux always said Teflon was a jerk so he turned off his DMA |
| 01:59 | <Teflon-> | I much prefer FreeBSD over Linux, but alas, FreeBSD is much more of a server os than a desktop OS so it doesn't do multimedia. |
| 01:59 | <Teflon-> | At least debian makes life somewhat OK. |
| 01:59 | <josephk_> | get a mac |
| 01:59 | <Teflon-> | live tv, jitter-free, 0.5 load 60% idle |
| 01:59 | <Teflon-> | josephk_, my wife has 2. |
| 02:00 | <josephk_> | take one |
| 02:00 | <josephk_> | hehe |
| 02:00 | <Teflon-> | nah. |
| 02:00 | <Teflon-> | :) |
| 02:00 | <josephk_> | give me one |
| 02:00 | <josephk_> | these 4 aint enough |
| 02:00 | <Teflon-> | lol! |
| 02:00 | <josephk_> | send more cops |
| 02:01 | <Teflon-> | she's got a 12" powerbook and an old ibook. |
| 02:01 | <Chutt> | dma caused many problems, historically |
| 02:01 | <Teflon-> | Chutt, only on cruddy hardware that shouldn't be kept in service! |
| 02:01 | <Chutt> | naw, used to be all the time :p |
| 02:01 | <Teflon-> | wonder if there's a kernel option to disable dma disable |
| 02:01 | <Teflon-> | Chutt, not on freebsd! :) |
| 02:01 | <josephk_> | I believe the windows driver for the pvrxxx does nothing special...I bet it does less than the ivtv driver |
| 02:02 | <Teflon-> | josephk_, probably not. |
| 02:02 | <Teflon-> | but it doesn't go bandy periodically i dont think. |
| 02:02 | <Teflon-> | that has to be the most annoying bug ever. |
| 02:02 | <josephk_> | I don't get banding with dnr |
| 02:02 | <Teflon-> | does dnr take effect immediately or only on the next recording? |
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| 02:03 | <josephk_> | next recording |
| 02:03 | <Teflon-> | josephk_, ah. |
| 02:03 | <Teflon-> | what do you use, let me try em on noisy a few channels |
| 02:03 | <josephk_> | Chutt...IVTV: timed out waiting for firmware |
| 02:03 | <josephk_> | sound good?:D |
| 02:03 | <o_cee> | Chutt: the processing thingie is this: not sure what it is.. if ((curitem->IsEditing(m_db)) || |
| 02:03 | <o_cee> | (curitem->CheckMarkupFlag(MARK_PROCESSING, m_db))) |
| 02:03 | <o_cee> | itype->ResetFilename(); |
| 02:04 | <josephk_> | dnr_mode=3,dnr_temporal=2,dnr_spatial=2 |
| 02:04 | <o_cee> | IsEditing, would that be editing from another frontend? |
| 02:04 | <josephk_> | temporal at 4 is ok too I think |
| 02:04 | <josephk_> | ok I actually have to sleep I swear |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 02:05 | <o_cee> | it's 8 am here, i just got up :) |
| 02:05 | <josephk_> | I know I won't be missed |
| 02:05 | <josephk_> | hehe |
| 02:05 | <o_cee> | okay.. don't understand the other one though |
| 02:06 | <Teflon-> | hmm i dont see the difference with dnr on |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | looking for commercials, perhaps |
| 02:07 | <o_cee> | grepping some more |
| 02:10 | <o_cee> | oohkay, it's set in int NuppelVideoPlayer::FlagCommercials(bool showPercentage, bool fullSpeed) |
| 02:10 | <o_cee> | still don't get it, but it seems like the image should work, but it doesn't mean that it's beeing transcoded :) |
| 02:11 | <o_cee> | ah well, got an image for it anyway, just never seen it |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | it's when it's looking for commercials |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | or being edited |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | i suppose, then |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | when would it be looking for commercials? |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | when recording? |
| 02:15 | <Chutt> | afterwards |
| 02:15 | <o_cee> | oh, okay. can't use the auto commercial stuff here, so i've never tried it. |
| 02:16 | <o_cee> | would be nice to have it mark it when transcoding as well.. |
| 02:17 | <o_cee> | couldn't it be put here int NuppelVideoPlayer::ReencodeFile just like FlagCommercials? |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | ask captain_murdoch |
| 02:17 | <o_cee> | righty :) |
| 02:18 | <o_cee> | guess he's asleep |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 02:19 | <o_cee> | i'm actually just learning object oriented programming, so maybe later i'd do that myself ;) |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | https://dragon.dyndns.org/mythtv/comflagged.png will that do for comflagged you think? :) |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | commflagged.png even |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | damn hard to figure out a good pic for that one |
| 02:22 | <o_cee> | but you wipe away shit with that. and that's what commercial flagging is for :) |
| 02:24 | <CyberKnet> | Anyone know a place to buy a 350 in the USA that isn't too expensive? |
| 02:24 | <CyberKnet> | I almost went with eTechWarehouse... then read epinions.com ... yikes!@ |
| 02:24 | <CyberKnet> | thought I'd be a little more careful before I selected another place! |
| 02:24 | <o_cee> | ask warlord, he got his 5 days early or something |
| 02:25 | <CyberKnet> | he was telling me how crisp/sharp his tv out is now =) |
| 02:25 | <CyberKnet> | and this bttv card I have is a piece |
| 02:25 | <CyberKnet> | the color is ... all wrong |
| 02:25 | <CyberKnet> | and it tunes to the wrong channels. |
| 02:25 | <CyberKnet> | *shrug*. I think it's probably easier to just buy a real capture card =) |
| 02:26 | <o_cee> | the 350 seems sweet |
| 02:26 | <CyberKnet> | that's what I've heard. |
| 02:26 | <o_cee> | but you might want to wait a while i guess, still alpha drivers |
| 02:26 | <CyberKnet> | I'd like to experience for myself =) |
| 02:26 | <CyberKnet> | o_cee: you have to see the output of this card I have right now... |
| 02:27 | <o_cee> | nooo :) |
| 02:27 | <CyberKnet> | even if I can't use the tv-out of the 350, and use it just as a 250, it'd be better |
| 02:27 | <o_cee> | probably true |
| 02:27 | <CyberKnet> | the color is washed out |
| 02:27 | <CyberKnet> | there is almost no color in the picture |
| 02:27 | <o_cee> | the 250 is nice as well, problem is with the fucked up tv-out of nvidia |
| 02:27 | <CyberKnet> | I have an AverKey to do that |
| 02:28 | <o_cee> | geometry is all wrong and stuff like that |
| 02:28 | <CyberKnet> | The averkey is not perfect, but pretty good. |
| 02:28 | <o_cee> | i get better picture with 1024x768, but myth is slow at that res :/ |
| 02:29 | <o_cee> | could anyone check if you've got Verdana as a standard truetype? i've got it, and i haven't installed it seperately.. |
| 02:29 | <CyberKnet> | I have it at 800x600 because the averkey cant go higher. |
| 02:29 | <o_cee> | but you never know what gentoo does with packages |
| 02:29 | <CyberKnet> | I think I should try at 640x480 though. |
| 02:29 | <o_cee> | 800x600 is best with myth |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | no scaling needed for backgrounds and stuff like that |
| 02:30 | <CyberKnet> | aha |
| 02:30 | <CyberKnet> | I have a dual PIII 733 |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | that's whats makes 1024 slow |
| 02:30 | <CyberKnet> | and it can't cope with live tv 480x480 |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | getting a pvr would be good then |
| 02:31 | <CyberKnet> | That's what I was thinking. |
| 02:31 | <CyberKnet> | Solve all my problems with one purchase =) |
| 02:31 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 02:31 | <o_cee> | Chutt: did you look at commflagged.png? |
| 02:31 | <o_cee> | will it be understandable? :) |
| 02:31 | <CyberKnet> | I better get out of here. work tomorrow =) |
| 02:31 | <CyberKnet> | later folks. |
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| 02:32 | <o_cee> | later |
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| 02:46 | <o_cee> | Chutt fell asleep :) |
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| 02:48 | <hadees> | is mythtv osd really structered right so that i could make a moving news ticker on the tv screen? |
| 02:50 | <Chutt> | it would take a bit of code |
| 02:50 | <Chutt> | but it would not be that difficult |
| 02:52 | <hadees> | that would be really cool, then you could also send it stuff from the mythmusic or mythdvd telling how your ripping is going |
| 02:52 | <o_cee> | search the archives ;) |
| 02:52 | <hadees> | yeah i have seen it all over the place |
| 02:53 | <hadees> | i would love to try to do it, but i am going to take baby steps first and add the configure information for setting up an LCD |
| 02:53 | <o_cee> | when exiting mythmusic, why does it take so long to get focus on the main menu? takes several seconds before i can do anything on the main menu |
| 02:53 | <hadees> | i don't think i have that problem |
| 02:54 | <o_cee> | strange |
| 02:54 | <hadees> | nope just tried it |
| 02:55 | <o_cee> | strange indeed |
| 02:56 | <o_cee> | Chutt: great, thanks for the commit ;) don't think i need more of those now |
| 02:57 | <hadees> | is anyone working on making any new plugins? |
| 02:58 | <Chutt> | mythbrowser just got committed to cvs recently |
| 02:58 | <o_cee> | kinda limited, but it's cool :) |
| 02:58 | <o_cee> | usually have a copy of mozilla on the other desktop and switch over to it instead.. but this is great when you don't want to use the keyboard |
| 02:59 | <o_cee> | isn't MythBurn in early stages as well? or is that one on hold? |
| 03:00 | <hadees> | anyone ever do anything with mythRadio? |
| 03:00 | <o_cee> | don't think so |
| 03:00 | <o_cee> | but streaming audio is on its way |
| 03:02 | <hadees> | all kinds of just certain formats? |
| 03:03 | <o_cee> | not sure. |
| 03:03 | <o_cee> | shoutcast i think |
| 03:04 | <o_cee> | did anyone try the new filtering stuff? denoise3d? |
| 03:04 | <o_cee> | don't think i got it running |
| 03:04 | <hadees> | because alot of stuff like news radio and sports come in ram |
| 03:04 | <hadees> | denoise3d? |
| 03:05 | <o_cee> | a filter |
| 03:05 | <hadees> | does it use the 3d render on the graphics card? |
| 03:05 | <Chutt> | no |
| 03:07 | <hadees> | Chutt: for the new settings for the LCD is all the stuff i want to look at in globalsettings? |
| 03:07 | <o_cee> | how is it activated Chutt? i added "denoise3d" to the playback options, didn't seem to do anything.. also tried adding it in "videofilters".. guess i need parameters? |
| 03:07 | <Chutt> | hadees, you got it |
| 03:08 | <Chutt> | o_cee, something like that |
| 03:08 | <Chutt> | but, i'm off to bed |
| 03:08 | <hadees> | thx |
| 03:08 | <o_cee> | later Chutt, sleep tight |
| 03:10 | <o_cee> | Chutt: you saw this? The FFmpeg CVS tree on Sourceforge will cease to exist shortly! Other services will stay on SF for now, but it's highly possible we'll move the mailing list too. |
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| 03:10 | <o_cee> | moving it to mplayerhq.hu |
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| 04:04 | <o_cee> | does anyone know how to activate filters? |
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| 08:45 | <Racer> | thor? |
| 08:45 | <mikegrb> | kvandivo: I like the idea of your commercial notify patch, I'll have to try it out tonight |
| 08:46 | <Racer> | is there a mfd/daap tester here? |
| 08:49 | <Racer> | guess not! |
| 08:49 | <Racer> | :( |
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| 09:56 | <thor_> | ... and the OSD doesn't work .... make distlean != cvs co |
| 09:57 | <thor_> | now to figure out why? |
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| 11:19 | <thor_> | phew ... this is a good one |
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| 11:21 | <kvandivo> | mikegrb: I'm quite pleased with it. It was awesome last night on survivor. comm skip was thinking there were commercials all over the place, but my notify code made it very bearable for me |
| 11:21 | <thor_> | put in debugging statements, and OSD works, remove debugging statements, OSD stops |
| 11:21 | <kvandivo> | filter code add any threads? |
| 11:21 | <mikegrb> | kvandivo: right makes a lot of sense |
| 11:21 | <Chiphead> | I have mythtv compiling under qt/embedded |
| 11:22 | <Chiphead> | all works but video playback. |
| 11:22 | <Chiphead> | Im diving into that now |
| 11:22 | <thor_> | Chutt, if you catch this on scroll back, the filter stuff is C (and the .pro's make in compile not with g++, but gcc) |
| 11:22 | <thor_> | but I don't see any extern "C" 's around ... |
| 11:22 | <mikegrb> | kvandivo: even better then to turn it off and try skipping at beginning of commercials because you have a reasonable idea of if it has the end properly marked |
| 11:22 | <kvandivo> | precisely the point of it |
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| 11:26 | <thor_> | and the dlopens are lazy |
| 11:26 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | mikegrb: I have a patch about ready to commit that will let you toggle the auto-skip as you are watching a video. It's not a permanent change, just used while you're watching that recording right then. |
| 11:26 | <thor_> | hmmm ... that may be it |
| 11:26 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: now that is bad ass |
| 11:26 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch_: that alliviates my desire to have a per program/per show toggle |
| 11:26 | <kvandivo> | that's so 90s, mike.. you are supposed to say.. now that is phat. |
| 11:26 | <mikegrb> | :) |
| 11:26 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 11:26 | <mikegrb> | sorry |
| 11:27 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | I should get that and kvandivo's patch submitted tonight or tomorrow. |
| 11:27 | <mikegrb> | :) |
| 11:27 | | * mikegrb is about 3 weeks behind cvs |
| 11:27 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | just thought of something. right now I'm not pausing video when the popup menu to toggle is displayed. I probably should pause. |
| 11:27 | <mikegrb> | didn't have a frontend and didn't want to update sense I wouldn't know if something was wonky |
| 11:33 | <kvandivo> | Captain_Murdoch_: while i have been using my notify code over the past week, there's one thing i've noticed that we might be able to piggyback on some of our code. |
| 11:34 | <kvandivo> | an example will illustrate best... last night, in the middle of tribal council things would get dark and myth would think a commercial was starting. It will tell me that the commercial was 533 seconds long (or some other larger-than-expected number) and i would let it keep going. |
| 11:35 | <kvandivo> | Then, a couple of minutes later, the commercial would actually start, and it would be handy if there was a way for me to cause a popup to appear that tells me when it thinks the commercial is going to end. kinda like a key that pops up the notify box that i've got. |
| 11:35 | <mikegrb> | ahh |
| 11:35 | <mikegrb> | nice idea |
| 11:35 | <kvandivo> | perhaps a line added to the 'info' box? |
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| 11:36 | <kvandivo> | i'm not crazy about making that box bigger than it is, though |
| 11:41 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | so you're popping up the info box to show the length currently? |
| 11:43 | <kvandivo> | right now it pops up the same box as a normal commercial skip sequence |
| 11:43 | <kvandivo> | it just doesn't do the actual skip |
| 11:44 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | would be nice if it could use a small box in the corner or something. hmmmm... |
| 11:45 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | I like the notify idea but don't want a big box popping up in front of my video if the detection is off. that reminds me, I'll have to modify my toggle patch to work with your 3-state auto-skip patch. easy enough... |
| 11:47 | <mikegrb> | they would make a nice complement to each other |
| 11:47 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | my wife will love the notify stuff. she likes it where it tells you how long it skipped when you use 'Z' and 'Q'. probably 2/3 of the shows we watch are good enough to use auto-skip. |
| 11:47 | <mikegrb> | when toggling comm skpi to off it could default to notify |
| 11:49 | <kvandivo> | i really haven't noticed the box to be _that_ big of a deal. It fades away after a second or two and I kinda tune it out |
| 11:50 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | ok, I see you set the display time to 1 second so it displays for 1 then fades. |
| 11:55 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | trying to remember what that box looks like. could just check auto-skip to see if it's set to notify when the user hits 'I' for the info box and if it's set to notify then TV::DoInfo() could display different text if the user was in a commercial. text could say how long to the comm end. |
| 11:56 | <kvandivo> | either way... if -in- a commercial, tell how long to commercial end, if -not- in a commercial, tell how long till next commercial starts |
| 11:57 | <kvandivo> | nm.. i don't think we want that in these patches. that sounds like it should be decoupled from these. another option gets added to the settings screen for 'additional information in 'info' box' |
| 11:57 | <kvandivo> | if that option is checked, we get the extra line in the DoInfo() |
| 11:57 | <kvandivo> | sound reasonable? |
| 11:58 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | yeah. I've already got a local autoCommecialSkip var in tv_play.cpp to keep track of the temporary setting that the user can toggle. that gets passed to NuppelVideoPlayer whenever they toggle it. |
| 11:58 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | could make use of that later if need be. |
| 11:59 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | problem with extra lines is that themes have to have big boxes or else the lines could overflow. |
| 11:59 | <kvandivo> | true |
| 12:00 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | what do you think about cycling through the auto-skip settings since it's 3-state now. my current patch just toggles, but it can easily be changed to cycle OFF -> Notify -> ON -> OFF, etc.. that's easier than giving option of going from OFF to Notify or ON on the same menu. |
| 12:03 | <kvandivo> | i think thats perfectly acceptable, as long as the user gets feedback on what the current state is |
| 12:04 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | yeah, after you change it shows what it got set to using that same popup you're using. |
| 12:05 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | so if I'm OFF and I hit the menu key, the menu allows setting auto-skip to notify. If I hit that button on the menu it closes the menu and pops up a dialog saying "Auto-Skip Notify" |
| 12:05 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | s/dialog/popup/ |
| 12:10 | <kvandivo> | so if we are going off->notify->on, we probably want to change that dropdown box that i sent in for globalsettings to reflect that order as well |
| 12:10 | <kvandivo> | (sounds fine to me) |
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| 12:13 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | order doesn't matter, but I figured that's the natural progression. notify is inbetween off and on even though it's not numerically. |
| 12:14 | <kvandivo> | i agree completely. i wanted to do the dropbox that way, but opted for something that revised as little of your code as possible |
| 12:15 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | ok, I'll put it in the off -> notify -> on way and swap those 2 lines in your patch. |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | blah blah blah |
| 12:21 | | * kvandivo peers intently at Chutt. |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | hi! =) |
| 12:21 | <kvandivo> | how goes on this fine, cool morning? |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | blah |
| 12:27 | <thor_> | harumph |
| 12:27 | <kvandivo> | ba humbug |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | thor, so, what about adding some extern "C"s |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | around the frame.h and filter.h includes? |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | in libmythtv/ |
| 12:28 | <thor_> | will give it a shot |
| 12:30 | <thor_> | if that doesn't work, I'll try just renaming filter_linearblend to .cpp |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | ok |
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| 12:39 | <thor_> | crappity crap crap |
| 12:39 | <thor_> | extern's didn't work |
| 12:40 | <thor_> | and filter_linearblend as a cpp file is none too happy about malloc 's |
| 12:41 | <kvandivo> | mallocs? |
| 12:41 | <thor_> | filter_linearblend.cpp:346: invalid conversion from `void*' to `ThisFilter*' |
| 12:41 | <kvandivo> | i thought i'd read that chutt had rewritten those as news.. must be thinking of something else |
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| 13:34 | <Chiphead> | I have mythfrontend running in a framebuffer by compiling it with qt/embedded. However there are a few places the gui doesn't update, (my guess it is depending on a buffered screen). Can anyone give me a pointer to the code I should look at to ensure screens get fully refreshed when a screen changes? |
| 14:01 | <thor_> | Chiphead, you want MythDialog and MythThemedDialog's in ./mythtv/libs/mythlib |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | though neither of them really controls screen updating, that's all in qt |
| 14:02 | <thor_> | but the ThemedDialog's hold ui widgets that ask for updates |
| 14:06 | <Chiphead> | Ok thx. If I pop up a dialog, like delete, it updates the screen |
| 14:06 | <Chiphead> | there has to be a way to tell it to update everytime |
| 14:06 | <Chiphead> | so are all screens dialogs? |
| 14:07 | <thor_> | yup |
| 14:08 | <Chiphead> | its strange that some update while others dont |
| 14:09 | <Chiphead> | like I can go TV->WatchRecordings->ESC and the screen is blank the ESC again and I get the TV/Settigns screen |
| 14:09 | <Chiphead> | the TV menu doesnt refresh but the main menu does |
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| 14:11 | <thor_> | those are all MythDialogs |
| 14:11 | <thor_> | which Qt is in charge of refreshing |
| 14:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | there may be a bug down there in something. sometimes I only get half of the screen drawn or parts missing on the playbackbox screen when the delete popup is up. I've always attributed it to the crappy video card in my main frontend, but maybe it's not. this has happened with 2 different versions (ie, 3.0.x, 3.1.x) of Qt. |
| 14:13 | <Chiphead> | I get the same thing when in that screen. all but the lower right corner is drawn, but poping up the delete dialog and exiting refreshes the whole screen |
| 14:13 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ditto |
| 14:14 | <Chiphead> | but thats only using the fbdev. using X it works fine for me |
| 14:14 | | * Chiphead will investigate MythDialog |
| 14:14 | <Captain_Murdoch> | hasn't bugged me enough to check it out though. :) I'm using X on a builtin i810 card. |
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| 14:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | cool, the show started recording 3 minutes late like I setup in the advanced recording screen. program info on the playback box reflects the actual adjusted start/stop times as well. |
| 14:51 | <thor_> | ah, sorry, WatchRecordings is a MythThemedDialog |
| 14:52 | | * Chiphead nods |
| 14:52 | <Chiphead> | I have MythDialog fixed |
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| 14:53 | <Chiphead> | and I think the problem with the Watch Recordings screen is when you have previews turned off. It leaves the area where the preview would display unupdated till a specific update request like after a delete dialog |
| 14:53 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, I don't use previews, I've wondered about that. |
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| 14:55 | <thor_> | that sounds about right |
| 14:56 | <Chiphead> | Im also not getting the top line "Select recording to watch" till I manually update |
| 14:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chiphead: is that after a recording finishes or at anytime? |
| 14:58 | <Chiphead> | just the first time I go into the watch recordings screen |
| 14:58 | <Chiphead> | taht top line of text is not getting drawn |
| 14:58 | <thor_> | Chiphead, you might just want to add a polish(){} method that calls refresh() .... I dunno .... long time since I touched any of this |
| 14:59 | <Chiphead> | well for my MythDialogs fix I added a call to repaint in the detach method |
| 14:59 | <Chiphead> | that way it redraws the screen every time when exiting a child |
| 15:00 | <thor_> | yup |
| 15:00 | <Chiphead> | sound I ifdef it? |
| 15:00 | <Chiphead> | should be ok for all situations |
| 15:01 | <thor_> | Chutt's not too big on the whole ifdef thing |
| 15:01 | | * Chiphead nods |
| 15:01 | <thor_> | if it makes sense for all situations, then it makes sense |
| 15:01 | <Chiphead> | it souldnt break any of the non fbdev systems |
| 15:04 | <Chiphead> | chutt == isaac? |
| 15:04 | <mikegrb> | yes |
| 15:05 | <Chiphead> | thx again my personal goole :P |
| 15:19 | <Chiphead> | off to work... bbl |
| 15:21 | <DogBoy> | saw a setting somewhere for putting an offset for the showtimes |
| 15:21 | <DogBoy> | but now I can't find it |
| 15:32 | <Captain_Murdoch> | dogboy, global or per-show? |
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| 16:09 | <ByteNik> | Where does the include/linux/dvb directory coem from? |
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| 16:12 | <ByteNik> | Because it is necessary for the dvb part of mythtv |
| 16:13 | <kja> | the driver at linuxtv.org |
| 16:13 | <ByteNik> | kk thanks |
| 16:14 | <kja> | np |
| 16:18 | <ByteNik> | Wait... I'm confuzed...what is DVB and how does it relate to DTV? I always thought they were interchangable. |
| 16:22 | <kja> | DVB=Digital Video Broadcast, a commonly used standard in Europe, who know wtf DTV is... |
| 16:30 | <farce> | DTV is digital tv |
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| 16:31 | <ByteNik> | Ah |
| 16:31 | <farce> | same thing i think |
| 16:31 | <ByteNik> | I thought DTV == ATSC |
| 16:32 | <farce> | ATSC and DVB are both implementations of a direct tv idea. |
| 16:34 | <farce> | DVB being the european designed... and ATSC by the American Television Standards Committee |
| 16:34 | <farce> | s/Standards/Systems |
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| 16:44 | <bobbyd> | hi, anyone here using a "Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture" device? |
| 16:45 | <kja> | no, because they are known to fry motherboards |
| 16:45 | <bobbyd> | really? |
| 16:45 | <kja> | no |
| 16:45 | <kja> | i'm just bored |
| 16:46 | <bobbyd> | ahh |
| 16:46 | <bobbyd> | it says I need to use the bttv module |
| 16:46 | <bobbyd> | but I dont see that as an option in the kernel config... |
| 16:46 | <kja> | bttv.sf.net i thing |
| 16:47 | <kja> | s/thing/think |
| 16:47 | <bobbyd> | ok thanks |
| 16:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | bttv is at www.bytesex.org |
| 16:48 | <bobbyd> | ok great |
| 16:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | bobbyd, bttv is in the kernel and if you're using one of the better-known distros then it's probably already compiled in. |
| 16:49 | <bobbyd> | Captain_Murdoch: hmm, I'm using gentoo, but it hasnt loaded the module... |
| 16:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | do you have 'locate' installed? |
| 16:50 | <bobbyd> | yeah it looks like it's in the source tree... |
| 16:50 | <bobbyd> | yes, I just found it ;) |
| 16:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | see if bttv.o is anywhere. |
| 16:50 | <bobbyd> | it is |
| 16:50 | <bobbyd> | if lspci report that it's a bt878, should it work no matter what? |
| 16:51 | <Captain_Murdoch> | bttv works for 848 and 878 cards |
| 16:52 | <bobbyd> | hmm ok, so I should just be able to do modprobe bttv and it should load it? |
| 16:52 | <Captain_Murdoch> | probably. |
| 17:08 | <bobbyd> | hmm |
| 17:09 | <bobbyd> | the option isnt in the menu in make menuconfig... |
| 17:13 | <duende> | Help : Whenever I watch live tv or record, the audio sounds really bad, I have tried tinkering with the settings , but nothign seems to work. Does anyone else experience bad audio quality? |
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| 17:16 | <duende> | it's almost as if the sound was recorded at top volume level, it gets distortions and stuff |
| 17:20 | <kja> | duende: search the mythtv-users archive!! http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
| 17:22 | <kja> | boddyd: the linux documentation project is nice: www.tldp.org |
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| 18:24 | <thor_> | duende, Suse 8.2 has a broken Qt |
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| 18:35 | <kja> | o_cee: still working on the theme? |
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| 19:31 | <thor_> | cvs.mythtv.org <--- connection refused |
| 19:31 | <kja> | couple of hours ago also |
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| 19:32 | <thor_> | just the apache interface, not cvs |
| 19:33 | <kja> | uh, didn't think of that, but yea |
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| 19:42 | <kNet> | thor_: you have a 350, don't you? |
| 19:43 | <josephk_> | thor_: RUN! |
| 19:43 | <josephk_> | :) |
| 19:45 | <thor_> | ah, no |
| 19:45 | <thor_> | but if you'd like to mail me one ... |
| 19:46 | <kNet> | hehehhe =) |
| 19:46 | <kNet> | josephk_: I'm not looking for help! *grin* |
| 19:46 | <josephk_> | kNet: RUN! |
| 19:46 | <josephk_> | :) |
| 19:47 | <kNet> | I was hoping to catch warlord to ask him. I am just looking for a retailer to purchase one from =) |
| 19:47 | <josephk_> | I got mine from amazon for 180 |
| 19:47 | <josephk_> | that was about a month ago |
| 19:47 | <kNet> | I think they've gone up =( |
| 19:48 | <kNet> | damn hauppauge and their limited production |
| 19:48 | <josephk_> | lol |
| 19:48 | <kNet> | It's easy to get a 250, but I really want the 350 |
| 19:48 | <kNet> | I have a very marginal mythbox |
| 19:48 | <josephk_> | at least they gave tmk one |
| 19:48 | <kNet> | (dual PIII 733) |
| 19:48 | <kNet> | tmk? |
| 19:49 | <josephk_> | ivtv head honcho |
| 19:49 | <josephk_> | main man |
| 19:49 | <kNet> | yeah. that was pretty decent of them. |
| 19:49 | <josephk_> | jive turkey |
| 19:49 | <kNet> | I'm understanding that they did not divulge the specs though? |
| 19:50 | <josephk_> | don't think they helped in that way in the slightest |
| 19:51 | <josephk_> | either they do or don't understand the pull of myth |
| 19:51 | <ChaosExiguum> | they were not allowed to due to agreements with other companies |
| 19:53 | <kNet> | NDAs are a horrible thing =) |
| 19:55 | <josephk_> | SCO their not |
| 19:55 | <josephk_> | Their great SCO for securing SCO one rights SCO. |
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| 20:31 | <josephk_> | omg...if dec_mpg_buffers fixes it I'm going to laugh...lol |
| 20:32 | <josephk_> | and then cry |
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| 20:44 | <Exdaix> | Anyone know why I have a high-pitch whine over all of my audio when viewing TV? It seems to be a TV card (Hauppage WinTV GO) or Sound card (Hercules Muse XL) problem... |
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| 21:02 | <thor_> | Chutt, either I did something stupid, or CVS is doing weird stuff with time stamps |
| 21:02 | <thor_> | probably the former, |
| 21:02 | <thor_> | but you never know |
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| 21:06 | <Chiphead> | evening guys |
| 21:06 | | * gnubee just went to the mythtv site and decided its the coolest thing ever |
| 21:18 | <thor_> | Chiphead, heh ... any progress? |
| 21:19 | <Chiphead> | just got back from work.... |
| 21:19 | <gnubee> | is there any way to go from vga or svideo to rca? |
| 21:19 | <gnubee> | so i can either go from the monitor output or my nvidia card to my tv? |
| 21:19 | <gnubee> | my tvs dont have svideo |
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| 21:19 | <Chiphead> | still looking for the right place to fix the MythThemeDialog |
| 21:20 | <thor_> | Chiphead, could be a few things |
| 21:20 | <Chiphead> | Im still feeling out how the screen is drawn |
| 21:20 | <thor_> | when the themes load, each of the Myth UI widgets are supposed to calc their own screen dimensions |
| 21:20 | <Chiphead> | looks like it is drawn in pieces |
| 21:20 | <Chiphead> | ahh |
| 21:20 | <thor_> | so they know in screen coordinates what refresh to call |
| 21:20 | <Chiphead> | maybe the background then since it is being left untouched |
| 21:21 | <thor_> | yup, only once |
| 21:21 | <gnubee> | erm, brb |
| 21:21 | <Chiphead> | on the fbdev its not being drawn untill a refresh happens. |
| 21:21 | <Chiphead> | Ill look at the background init |
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| 21:23 | <thor_> | note that everything is being drawn on a pixmap and the just bitblt'd over |
| 21:24 | <thor_> | (iirc) |
| 21:25 | <thor_> | Chutt, cvs is definitely handing me back stuff with a timestamp for tomorrow ... and I don't *think* I sent stuff in with a screwed up timestamp |
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| 21:30 | <kro> | anyone here have one mythbackend and multiple mythtvfrontends? |
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| 21:36 | <bline> | thor_: you try running myth under valgrind to find how filters are squashing frame pointers? |
| 21:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | thor, do you have any older commit logs from earlier today? |
| 21:37 | <thor_> | bline, have not tried yet ... have never used valgrind :-) |
| 21:37 | <Captain_Murdoch> | are the logs normally dated GMT or EST? |
| 21:38 | <bline> | it's uber simple; valgrind [valgrind options] program [program options] |
| 21:38 | <thor_> | Captain_Murdoch, I dunno |
| 21:38 | <thor_> | apache has been down for a while on the cvs box |
| 21:39 | <thor_> | and the commit mailings are clearly being sent out with a data of Saturday |
| 21:39 | <thor_> | date |
| 21:39 | <bline> | valgrind rocks for wierd memory related problems |
| 21:39 | <thor_> | bline, ok ... I'm off to download it |
| 21:40 | <bline> | only works on linux though.. |
| 21:41 | <Captain_Murdoch> | thor, date on the machine is tomorrow, it's not set to EST, so that may be causing it. 'last' says nobody has logged in for 3 days and it's got an uptime of 11 days. |
| 21:42 | <cmorgan> | bleh |
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| 21:42 | <cmorgan> | anyone else running a recent debian unstable have problems with myth compiling due to qt? |
| 21:43 | <kro> | cmorgan: which compiler are you using? |
| 21:44 | <thor_> | Captain_Murdoch, I'm just going to hold off commit'ing anything ... probably a simple hiccup |
| 21:44 | <cmorgan> | kro: gcc 3.3.2 |
| 21:44 | <cmorgan> | kro: I don't think its a compiler issue |
| 21:45 | <kro> | nod. I had an issue on a debian box where I was trying to build mythtv on a mixed system that had gcc 2.95.x. just checking. |
| 21:45 | <cmorgan> | kro: first it couldn't find any qt stuff, so i symlinked /usr/include/qt3 to /usr/share/qt3/include |
| 21:45 | <cmorgan> | kro: now it says it can't find qconfig.h |
| 21:47 | <cmorgan> | i feel like a chump for upgrading though, i was confused for a short while with the /libs/libmythtv/videoout_ivtv.cpp bug and decided to upgrade... |
| 21:49 | <Chiphead> | I found the problem... but not sure how to handle it. |
| 21:49 | <cmorgan> | the qt one? |
| 21:49 | <Chiphead> | Its ine the MythDialog::setNoErase |
| 21:49 | <Chiphead> | if I comment out the body. Im fine |
| 21:50 | <cmorgan> | file? |
| 21:50 | <Chiphead> | Im sure its there to get rid of the annoying redraw whne moving the cursor but not changing the context |
| 21:50 | <thor_> | cmorgan, echo $QTDIR |
| 21:51 | <thor_> | eh ? |
| 21:51 | <thor_> | for a MythThemedDialog ? |
| 21:51 | <Chiphead> | sry cmorgan not your problem |
| 21:51 | <thor_> | cmorgan, Chiphead is talking about getting Myth running on Qt embedded |
| 21:51 | <cmorgan> | thor_: empty |
| 21:51 | <thor_> | hang on ... |
| 21:51 | <cmorgan> | thor_: not defined |
| 21:51 | <cmorgan> | Chiphead: ahh ok ;-) |
| 21:51 | <Chiphead> | MythThemedDialog is derived from MythDialog |
| 21:51 | <thor_> | yup |
| 21:52 | <thor_> | that MythDialog code is old ... Chutt wrote it ... he may have had a reason ... |
| 21:52 | <Chiphead> | well even when I do a repaint, if I dont tell it to erase first, the background is not repainted. |
| 21:52 | <Chiphead> | yeah I see the reason |
| 21:52 | <thor_> | ah |
| 21:52 | <cmorgan> | thor_: you have a qconfig.h file on your machine? ;-) |
| 21:52 | <thor_> | sounds right then |
| 21:52 | <Chiphead> | when you first goto the view recording and your in the left column |
| 21:53 | <Chiphead> | moving to the right but still have the same program selected the bottem redraws |
| 21:53 | <cmorgan> | blhe |
| 21:54 | <cmorgan> | installed qt3-apps-dev and its there now |
| 21:54 | <Chiphead> | by setting no erase, it doesnt redraw, however in FB mode the background is not drawn unless it is erased first |
| 21:54 | <thor_> | phew, ok |
| 21:54 | <Chiphead> | Am I making sence? |
| 21:54 | <thor_> | a little ... it's been a while since I fiddled with this stuff, although I did write a reasonable chunk of it |
| 21:55 | <thor_> | are you saying it's there to avoid some kind of flicker in non-FB mode ? |
| 21:55 | <thor_> | or just one time only flicker ? |
| 21:55 | <cmorgan> | thor_: thank you, for the code that you wrote |
| 21:56 | <Chiphead> | no not flicked... just a redraw of the bottem 1/2 of the screen when the actual program highlighted is not changed |
| 21:56 | <Chiphead> | but the cursor is chaged from the left to the right column |
| 21:56 | <Chiphead> | and vice versa |
| 21:57 | <thor_> | ah |
| 21:57 | <thor_> | got you |
| 21:57 | <thor_> | but the only thing that should be redrawing is the ManagedTreeList |
| 21:58 | <Chiphead> | by setting noerase, only changed sections are repainted... however is seems in fbmode in first display, backgrounds are not drawn unless erase is set to true |
| 21:58 | <Chiphead> | correct |
| 21:58 | <thor_> | ok |
| 22:00 | <thor_> | I'd put it on a post-it note for moment until Chutt's around ... that NoErase flag is definitely his, and he understands Qt far, far better than I do |
| 22:00 | | * Chiphead nods |
| 22:00 | <Chiphead> | these is one outstanding issue with the gui in fbmode |
| 22:00 | <Chiphead> | the test under the buttons is drawn on a white box |
| 22:01 | <Chiphead> | need to track that down and the gui is golden |
| 22:01 | <thor_> | alpha blending problem perhaps? |
| 22:02 | <thor_> | cmorgan, qt2-apps-dev install fix things ? |
| 22:02 | <Chiphead> | yeah its like the transparencty is not the same in fbmode |
| 22:02 | <thor_> | you can turn off alpha blending ... sort of |
| 22:03 | <cmorgan> | thor_: yep, thankfully ;-) |
| 22:03 | <cmorgan> | thor_: you running mythtv cvs? any trouble with /libs/libmythtv/ivtv-ext-api.h? what kernel if not? |
| 22:04 | <thor_> | cvs .... lots of problems .... nothing in ivtv-ext-api.h .... |
| 22:04 | <cmorgan> | thor_: what kernel? |
| 22:04 | <thor_> | =) |
| 22:04 | | * Chiphead is glad his last cvs pull was 2 days ago |
| 22:05 | <thor_> | 2.4.20 |
| 22:05 | <cmorgan> | hmm... you see my mail to the list about the ivtv-ext-api.h issue? |
| 22:06 | <thor_> | if you want to get things running, I would not be suprised if a cvs pull from Nov 2 solved your immediate problems |
| 22:06 | <thor_> | cvs co -D 11/02/03 |
| 22:06 | <cmorgan> | thor_: i'm in no rush and i wouldn't mind helping to fix things |
| 22:06 | <thor_> | ah |
| 22:06 | <thor_> | ok |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | the ivtv-ext-api stuff has been known for a while now. |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | i'm waiting on tmk to fix it in the ivtv driver, first. |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | this was already discussed a week or so back on the mythtv lists |
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| 22:07 | <cmorgan> | i'm surprised it hasn't been fixed |
| 22:07 | <thor_> | I finally understand the Mr. Sizeof(sizeof()) joke, at least |
| 22:07 | <cmorgan> | given that it is pretty straight forward |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | cmorgan, i can't fix it until it's fixed in the driver. |
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| 22:08 | <Chutt> | i have no control over the driver |
| 22:08 | <bobbyd> | hi |
| 22:08 | <cmorgan> | isn't the file in mythtv cvs? |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | it's also in the ivtv driver. |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | where do you think i got it from? |
| 22:09 | <cmorgan> | just waiting until the driver fixes it and then merging the changes in? |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | yes. |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | like i've said twice now |
| 22:09 | <cmorgan> | surprised it is broken over there for so long ;-) |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | bug tmk about it |
| 22:10 | <bobbyd> | I think I've configured my tv card correctly, but in xawtv I need to change 'capture' setting to grabframe from overlay before I see anything. when I fire up mythtv, I just get a black screen. can I tell mythtv not to use overlay mode? |
| 22:10 | <cmorgan> | hehe |
| 22:10 | <cmorgan> | he online? ;-) |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | bobbyd, mythtv doesn't use 'overlay' mode. |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | if you get a black screen, look at the error messages from mythbackend and mythfrontend. |
| 22:11 | <term> | Chutt: hey, is axboe making ivtv 2.6-compatible? |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | eventually, yeah |
| 22:12 | <term> | ah, cool. |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | he's out for a week or so |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | they want to get all the bugs fixed first |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | before introducing new ones =) |
| 22:12 | <term> | hehe understandable. :) |
| 22:13 | <term> | I'm probably (time permitting) going to upgrade everything and build .12 debs tomorrow. |
| 22:13 | <term> | off to dinner, bbl |
| 22:15 | <Chiphead> | do previews use the 350 hardware fb? |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | no |
| 22:16 | <mikegrb> | chiphead, hows it comming |
| 22:16 | <Chiphead> | I have the gui working. If I had a 350 I could probably use it all in fbmode w/o previews |
| 22:17 | <mikegrb> | :) |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | previews are done by qt |
| 22:17 | <Chiphead> | just need to tackle the videoout |
| 22:17 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 22:17 | | * mikegrb had a server reboot |
| 22:17 | <Chiphead> | oh then my stuff should work for 350 users |
| 22:17 | <mikegrb> | silly huricane electric unplugged it on accident while adding another to the rack |
| 22:18 | <Chiphead> | just a couple changes to the code and a few settings to build qt/embedded |
| 22:18 | | * Chiphead tries prieviews to see if they work w/qte |
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| 22:20 | <bobbyd> | ok, I'm getting two errors, from mythbackend: "VIDIOCGCHAN: Invalid argument" and from mythfronten2003-11-08 03:20:50 Waited too long for decoder to pause"d: " |
| 22:24 | <Chutt> | they did last time i built with qt/e |
| 22:24 | <Chiphead> | did you have to remove the -no-rtti flag from the qte build? |
| 22:24 | <thor_> | Chutt, so did I screw up something on a CVS commit? |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | chiphead, what -no-rtti flag? |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | thor, not that i'm aware of, why? |
| 22:25 | <thor_> | timestamps are comming back tomorrow |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | clock's set to utc |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | timezone is too |
| 22:26 | <thor_> | cvs commit e-mail says, "On Saturday November 7 ... " |
| 22:26 | <thor_> | 8 |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | yea |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | you committed at around 9 pm |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | + 5 hours to utc |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | 2 am, on the 8th |
| 22:28 | <Chiphead> | Chutt, in the mkspecs/qws/linux-x86-g++/qmake.conf |
| 22:28 | <bobbyd> | can anyone tell me where to look to debug this? |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | chiphead, i don't remember having to do that |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | bobbyd, well, it'd probably be a good idea to figure out why that ioctl is failing. |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | chiphead, but it was several months ago |
| 22:28 | <Chiphead> | Chutt, if I build it with that flag, some myth classes complain about a dynamic param and -no-rtti |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | oh, and the menu transparency issue's easy, just need to ifdef out the shadow drawing code in the menu stuff |
| 22:29 | <Chiphead> | should I ifdef the setnoerase too? that messes wioth fbmode |
| 22:30 | <Chiphead> | thor_ said you didnt like ifdefs |
| 22:30 | <DogBoy> | Captain_Murdoch, global |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | there's other ifdefs for QWS in there |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | a couple for the noerase stuff'll be fine, too |
| 22:30 | <Chiphead> | I saw that so Ill just add mine that way too then |
| 22:31 | <Chiphead> | then it should be usable for 350 users |
| 22:32 | <Chutt> | it's not really that slow running X on the 350's fb, though |
| 22:32 | <Chutt> | just uses a little more ram =) |
| 22:32 | <Chiphead> | much faster startup though... no xinit |
| 22:33 | <Chiphead> | X init I should say |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | true |
| 22:33 | <Chiphead> | thats my gole faster startup |
| 22:33 | <Chiphead> | goal |
| 22:33 | <Chiphead> | I run the frontend on an xbox |
| 22:33 | <Chiphead> | I want a fast starting blackbox :) |
| 22:34 | <Chiphead> | Now here is a dumb question... how should I generate the patch? |
| 22:34 | <Chutt> | doing it against a cvs tree? |
| 22:34 | <Chiphead> | my CVS is 2-3 days old |
| 22:34 | <Chutt> | well, you'd need to update to current, first |
| 22:34 | <Chutt> | then just 'cvs -z3 diff -ud > patch.diff' |
| 22:35 | <Chutt> | from the top level mythtv dir |
| 22:35 | <Chiphead> | its just one file so can I do it from there? |
| 22:35 | <Chiphead> | nm |
| 22:35 | <Chiphead> | paths wont be correct |
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| 22:36 | <Chiphead> | Im scared to update right now with what thor has been saying |
| 22:36 | <Chiphead> | :) |
| 22:37 | <Chutt> | just a weird problem with the filter stuff is all |
| 22:37 | <Chutt> | doesn't happen to me or anything =) |
| 22:37 | <Chiphead> | :) |
| 22:37 | <Chiphead> | ok |
| 22:38 | <Chiphead> | Ill take that a a thorism |
| 22:38 | <thor_> | no |
| 22:38 | <thor_> | it's not a "big" problem |
| 22:38 | <thor_> | just confusing me |
| 22:38 | <thor_> | and I'm easily confused |
| 22:39 | <Chiphead> | the shadow stuff in themedmenu? |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | hasshadow |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | line 1468 or so |
| 22:40 | | * Chiphead nods |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | that block of code is what's doing it |
| 22:40 | <Chiphead> | ok thx |
| 22:52 | <Chiphead> | sweet previews work and gui is done... now for the tough part... the video out |
| 23:02 | <mikegrb> | /me gives Chiphead a cookie |
| 23:03 | <Chiphead> | :) |
| 23:03 | <mikegrb> | make a 350 go in an xbox and you'll get a lot more then a cookie <g> |
| 23:03 | <Chiphead> | making progress |
| 23:03 | <Chiphead> | LOL if I owned a 350 I wouldnt be even going there :P |
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| 23:16 | <bobbyd> | hi, can I just as a quick question? do you think if I can get my TV card works under xawtv then I will be able to get it to work with mythtv? I'm just asking because I may be able to return it and get a card that's listed as working with mythtv. |
| 23:16 | <bobbyd> | the card seems to work with xawtv |
| 23:17 | <mikegrb> | what is the card? |
| 23:18 | <bobbyd> | well, it's called a v-stream tv-pvr pro, but it looks identical to a Kworld KW-TV878RF |
| 23:18 | <bobbyd> | i have it working in xawtv |
| 23:20 | <mikegrb> | generally a card that works in xawtv would work in myth |
| 23:20 | <mikegrb> | there are cases where it doesn't I'm not familiar with that card though |
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| 23:31 | | * mikegrb waits for mythtv to build on three systems |
| 23:34 | <bobbyd> | ok thanks, night |
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| 23:35 | <mikegrb> | laptop cpu temp == 186F heh |
| 23:36 | <josephk_> | hey dec_mpg_buffers may have fixed my problem chutt |
| 23:42 | <josephk_> | "may" |
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| 23:47 | <hadees> | is mythbrowser good enough to read like slashdot headlines? |
| 23:48 | <hadees> | or like the washingtonpost.com |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | it's just konqueror |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | essentially |
| 23:53 | <Chiphead> | mikegrb, Ill take my eggs over easy |
| 23:55 | <mikegrb> | okie doke |
| 23:55 | <mikegrb> | er okie dokie |
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