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00:03 | <phar0e> | the usb one? |
00:10 | <Gumby> | yes |
00:14 | <cesman> | hmmm guinness |
00:18 | <Gumby> | hehe |
00:19 | <Gumby> | I am having no luck with ati remote wonder |
00:19 | <Gumby> | heh, one thing after another it is |
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00:23 | | * Captain_Murdoch considers letting Jason Miller on the mailing list know Chutt fixed the memory leak bug but decides not to. he should be on the -commits list... |
00:25 | | * cesman one bottle down...two more in the fridge |
00:27 | <CyberKnet> | awesome =) |
00:27 | <CyberKnet> | something particularly hairy, or just an "oops!" ? |
00:27 | <CyberKnet> | (not on commits list - no tuners yet!) |
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01:52 | <Gumby> | not sure if this has already been implemented or not, but....is it possible to have music playing with the mythfrontend while editing other preferences in mythtv? |
02:07 | <linagee> | does anyone know what version of pike mkdvd needs? |
02:07 | <cesman> | Gumby:no, not yet... |
02:07 | <cesman> | what is mkdvd? |
02:08 | <linagee> | cesman: uses dvdauthor to burn a DVD player playable movie |
02:08 | <linagee> | cesman: trying to get mythtv to spit out stuff onto a DVD disc so i can try to play it on other TVs. ;) |
02:10 | <linagee> | argh. :( |
02:10 | <linagee> | i hate compile errors. :( |
02:10 | <DogBoy> | :-) use windows |
02:12 | <Teflon-> | i use ulead moviefactory LE from winblows to burn DVDs with custom menus. |
02:12 | <Teflon-> | (via samba) |
02:12 | <linagee> | ahhh... had a missing library. LOL |
02:15 | <DogBoy> | I still use windows for a couple things too |
02:17 | <Teflon-> | winblows is my desktop |
02:17 | <Teflon-> | then xwin32 to give me the missing stuff |
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02:28 | <linagee> | anyone in here use mkdvd? |
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02:37 | <Gumby> | nope, but DVD authoring and getting my remote control to work are the two main things left to do for me. |
02:39 | <DogBoy> | why a dvd, why not vcd |
02:39 | <DogBoy> | cds are cheaper and the signal is already compressed more than a dvd |
02:40 | <DogBoy> | using a dvd is like uncompressing mp3s to make a cd |
02:40 | <DogBoy> | you can do it but sometimes there's no point |
02:40 | <linagee> | DogBoy: the pvr250 already outputs into mpeg2 |
02:40 | <linagee> | DogBoy: dvds are in mpeg2. |
02:40 | <linagee> | DogBoy: there's no double compressing |
02:41 | <DogBoy> | I think you're missing my point |
02:41 | <DogBoy> | besides I don't have a pvr250 and not everybody does |
02:41 | <linagee> | DogBoy: sure everyone does. :-) |
02:41 | <DogBoy> | but I guess you're talking about your specific need |
02:42 | <linagee> | DogBoy: everyone i know in my usergroup has a pvr250. |
02:44 | <Gumby> | is there a way to edit contrast and brightnes? |
02:47 | <cesman> | f1/f2 f3/f4 f5/f6 |
02:47 | <cesman> | night folks |
02:47 | <Gumby> | gnight |
02:47 | <Gumby> | thx for al your help |
02:48 | <cesman> | ur're welcome |
02:48 | <DogBoy> | user group |
02:48 | <DogBoy> | night cesman |
02:51 | <DogBoy> | I guess one thing about a dvd is you don't have to swap the disc half way through the flick |
02:53 | <Gumby> | plus, its tough to fit all the extras onto a CDR |
02:58 | <DogBoy> | extras exist because of dvds |
03:01 | <Gumby> | not really. there were always deleted scences and documentaries. there was just no room to put them anywhere |
03:02 | <Gumby> | is there a file somewhere that shows all the key bindings? |
03:12 | <Gumby> | is there a way to watch tv while recording? Will a second Tuner card allow for this? |
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03:15 | <Kasperle> | huhu |
03:15 | <Gumby> | haha |
03:41 | <Gumby> | if I put in a second tuner card, will it automatically default to it when I want to watch TV but I am recording something? |
04:07 | <linagee> | Gumby: you want to watch the thing that is recording? |
04:12 | <Chiphead> | Gumby, keys.txt has the keys in it |
04:14 | <Gumby> | thx |
04:14 | <Gumby> | do either of you two use mythtv for DVD's? |
04:14 | <Gumby> | Ive put in a DVD to watch and the playback doesnt work. I get a few bits of sound every 5 seconds or so and no video |
04:15 | | * Chiphead doesnt6 use it |
04:15 | <Gumby> | also the dvd rupping doesnt work either. it identifies the DVD and when I hit 0 to rip it it tells me "No jobs and nothing else to do. You could hit 0 to rip a DVD" |
04:16 | | * Gumby tries a different DVD |
04:17 | <Gumby> | also, I set a manual recording and I dont have it set to automatically transcode when done. The video shows up in "watch recordings" but not in "videos" why is this? |
04:18 | <Gumby> | seems kinda pointless that it doesnt |
04:18 | <Gumby> | linagee: no, I want to watch a different channel while recording |
04:19 | <linagee> | Gumby: then yes... another recorder card SHOULD in theory let you watch another channel while recording. (if there's no bugs. hehe. :) ) |
04:20 | <Gumby> | lol, it seems everything I want mythtv for has some sort of difficulty getting to work |
04:20 | <Gumby> | I had to buy a new video card cause the hardware acceleration drivers would work with my ati radeon 7000 |
04:20 | <Gumby> | dvd isnt working |
04:20 | <Gumby> | remote wont work |
04:20 | <Gumby> | ok..correction. DVD WILL work. weird |
04:22 | <Gumby> | a brand new Matrix Revolutions disk WONT play (store bought) but a ripped Gladiator DVD will |
04:23 | <Gumby> | and it will rip fine too |
04:23 | <Gumby> | ODD |
04:23 | <Gumby> | well, at least one thing works properly out of the box |
04:32 | <DogBoy> | don't you have to recompile the kernel to play encrypted dvds or something like that? |
04:34 | <Gumby> | dunno. Havnt read anything like that |
04:34 | <Gumby> | I dont see what that wouldnt be included in this kernel already though |
04:35 | <Gumby> | I mean, DVD watching is a main feature of knoppmyth Id assume |
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04:48 | | * Gumby sighs |
04:49 | <Gumby> | well, after all this work it doesnt look like mythtv is going to work for me. Its just not reading DVD's that well either |
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05:57 | <linagee> | cool. it worked. my first DVD made from my pvr250. ;) |
05:57 | <linagee> | and it only took me until 3am in the morning! lol |
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10:00 | <pahli_bar> | is isaac the author of mythgallery? |
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10:56 | <kvandivo> | hey Captain_Murdoch, what needs to be done to go ahead and get that recommendations code added in? I'll go ahead and send another patch of it in its current state. sounds like it would be good to have a baseline implementation in, and that way it could be added to |
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11:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kvandivo: send an update and I'll take a look and try to get it in this weekend. I still wonder about changing current "rankings" to "priorities" or whatever i was you mentioned. |
11:18 | <kvandivo> | 11:36 < kvandivo> 1) I want to change the name of program rankings. That's not |
11:18 | <kvandivo> | really what it is doing. It's actually setting recording |
11:18 | <kvandivo> | priorities... (and I want to use the name 'program rankings' |
11:18 | <kvandivo> | to actually allow users to rank programs.. whether or not |
11:18 | <kvandivo> | they might happen to have them scheduled to record) |
11:18 | <kvandivo> | that ? |
11:20 | <kvandivo> | I've looked into it, and I think the gui parts could be changed really easily. However, to do it right, there is behind the scenes stuff that needs to change as well (cpp file names, database table names, etc) so that it all stays homogeneous |
11:21 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, that's the comment I was referring to. |
11:21 | <kvandivo> | when you say 'you wonder', do you mean that you aren't sure it is a good idea, or that you wonder where the patch is, or what? :) |
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11:22 | <Captain_Murdoch> | think it's probably a good idea. had forgot about the files being named something like *rank* and wasn't saying "where's the patch!" :) |
11:22 | <engie> | Hi. Should I be running loads of mythbackend processes? |
11:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | engie: they're threads |
11:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | should be like 9-10 I think normally |
11:23 | <engie> | right, that's not the problem then |
11:23 | <kvandivo> | ya.. i was looking at it just this morning, actually.. 'rank' seems to appear 1) in the menu, and 2) in the advanced recording options screen, and a couple of times on the 'rank' screen itself, and in the settings for it.. |
11:23 | <kvandivo> | so those gui changes would be quick |
11:23 | <engie> | When I run mythtv it goes "connecting to backend server:192.168.0.254:6543" and just waits |
11:23 | <kvandivo> | but the other stuff is what has held me up. I'm open to suggestions |
11:24 | <kvandivo> | i don't like the idea of "half" doing something |
11:24 | <engie> | Anyone know how to start |
11:24 | <engie> | eg can I get debugging info out of the frontend? |
11:24 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ditto, kinda like doing parts of it twice if we went back and changed rankings -> priorities and yours -> rankings. |
11:25 | <Captain_Murdoch> | engie: is the backend listening on that port? try "nestat -an | grep 6543" on the backend server |
11:25 | <Captain_Murdoch> | sorry, "netstat -an | grep 6543" |
11:25 | <engie> | Captain_Murdoch: I get promising looking output from that |
11:25 | <engie> | the word Establishing looked particually good |
11:26 | <Captain_Murdoch> | use your web browser to go to http://192.168.0.254:6544/ and see if you see the backend status page. |
11:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | then from the frontend machine see if you can connect to 192.168.0.254 port 6543 using telnet or something. |
11:27 | <CyberKne2> | urgh. remind me not to go into #mysql again. |
11:27 | <kvandivo> | at any rate, i don't yet have the code in to allow users to set rankings of programs (though I have it pretty well sketched out in text in a text file) |
11:28 | <kvandivo> | so that wouldn't affect the current recommendations code. And, I think that future |
11:28 | <kvandivo> | mods to the code could be built upon the current codebase without too much trouble |
11:29 | <Captain_Murdoch> | current rankings doesn't conflict with your current recommendations so rankings could be renamed before putting in your rankings stuff. |
11:30 | <kvandivo> | yep.. either way.. the two (currently) are unrelated |
11:30 | <engie> | Captain_Murdoch: will have a looksee |
11:30 | <kvandivo> | if you want, I can go ahead and work on a complete rename of the current rankings stuff, including filenames, database names, gui elements etc. |
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11:32 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kvandivo: that'd be great, "Recording Priorities" ?? |
11:33 | <kvandivo> | i think that is the most descriptive terminology, yes |
11:33 | <kvandivo> | because that is absolutely what you are doing |
11:34 | <kvandivo> | i have an appointment in an hour or so that will occupy most of my day, but when i can, i'll make up a detailed list of what i'm going to be changing and send it to dev and if anyone has any comments they can reply while i'm actually making the changes. :) |
11:34 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok, sounds good. |
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11:35 | <engie> | Hi, should I worry about the following error in mythbackend.log: |
11:35 | <engie> | ioctl VIDIOC_G_FMT: Invalid argument |
11:35 | <engie> | strange error flushing buffer ... |
11:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | strange error flushing buffer is normal. not sure about the vidio one. check the mailing list for that. |
11:41 | <engie> | Captain_Murdoch: Right, will do. If I run mythtv the screen goes black, I can only seem to quit with crrl-alt-backspace. Also, if I go to the backend with a webserver all I get is the text "Encoder: 4 is local". Any ideas? |
11:41 | <engie> | pah, webbrowser I mean :D |
11:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | if you get that encoder message it means the backend is at least running. black screen means it's probably not recording anything to show you. you don't want to run mythtv though, run mythfrontend. |
11:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | did you setup channels, etc? |
11:43 | <engie> | I tried to, although I'm not sure how to set up for my situation. I've got my cable box coming through the tuner. I need to always display this tuner channel, changing channels with a script |
11:44 | <engie> | the script controls an IR blaster strapped to the cable box |
11:44 | <Captain_Murdoch> | should be an example of that in the howto I think. |
11:44 | <Captain_Murdoch> | lots of people doing that. |
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11:44 | <engie> | right - it shows it for composite inputs, not input through a tuner channel |
11:45 | <engie> | ohh, ohh |
11:45 | <engie> | excitement! |
11:45 | <engie> | it works |
11:45 | <engie> | w00t! |
11:45 | <pmowry> | =) |
11:45 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I just logged in and fixed it for you. |
11:45 | <engie> | huh? |
11:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kidding... |
11:46 | <engie> | :D |
11:46 | | * engie strokes firewall |
11:47 | <engie> | right, now to get sound |
11:48 | <pmowry> | Quick Linux? howcan youtell how much memory a process is taking up? |
11:48 | <pmowry> | Ithink mythbackend is beginning to eat up everything. |
11:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | pmowry, are you on latest cvs? |
11:49 | <kvandivo> | and we do mean _latest_ :) |
11:49 | <pmowry> | Captail: from a fewdays ago |
11:49 | <Captain_Murdoch> | if it's older than 24 hours but less than 4 days or so then you need to update again. |
11:49 | <pmowry> | hehe ok |
11:49 | <Captain_Murdoch> | really, older than 12 hours or so needs to be updated. |
11:49 | <Captain_Murdoch> | should be on the -commits list. |
11:50 | <pmowry> | I saw a commit about a mem leak in the frontend, but itsnot running |
11:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | it's not the frontend, it's the player code, so commercial flagging causes the backend to exhibit the same behaviour. |
11:50 | <pmowry> | nevermind.... |
11:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | this was another commit |
11:51 | <pmowry> | Thanks, I'm reading it now... |
11:52 | <pmowry> | I think I should wipe my system and start again clean, I'm getting weird problems like frontend lockingwhen deleting a program. |
11:53 | <pmowry> | Is there a general recommendation for a disrto for myth? I'm currently using RH9 |
11:53 | <kvandivo> | i think the best suggestion is to use what you are most familiar with |
11:54 | <pmowry> | With redhat support changing, I figured it would be agoot time totry somethingnew. |
11:54 | <kvandivo> | well, that's up to you, but myth doesn't really care. |
11:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | support? who needs support... |
11:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | knopmyth guy ordered a couple M179 cards evidently and will be putting the patch into his next release after he gets the cards and tests. |
11:55 | <kvandivo> | real men etch their own distribution code directly onto the hard drive with tiny little pencils. |
11:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you have a hard drive? |
11:56 | <pmowry> | I'm lazy, use RHN to install everything. I may try an apget based one. |
11:56 | | * kvandivo mutters something about always being 'one upped' by Captain M |
11:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | waiting for a "ls -al" on these old 9-track tapes is getting kinda old... |
11:56 | <pmowry> | hehehe |
11:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | :) I can exaggerate with the best of them. |
11:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | the other day my dog chewed up of the punchcards that's part of my main LVM array and I lost a few hundred gigs of mp3 files. |
11:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | next time I'll make sure to photocopy them so I have a good set of backups |
12:00 | <pmowry> | I used punch cards once, right before we upgraded to a multex system. Never saw a grown man cry more than when a programmer tripped 2 weeks before the end of the semester. |
12:01 | <pmowry> | I know its the standard cleche, but the guy quit comp sci and went into petroleum engineering. |
12:02 | <pmowry> | D4mn, I'm not only old, but I cant spell either. |
12:05 | <pmowry> | If I want to be sure mythtv is starting clean, drop the database and delete the /usr/local/bin/mythtv /usr/local/lib/mythtv directories before a make install? |
12:06 | <pmowry> | oh, and the .mythtv dir in my home? |
12:08 | <Captain_Murdoch> | and /usr/local/share/mythtv if you want to get rid of the gui themes as well |
12:13 | <pmowry> | Thanks... Just wanted to be sure I had a clean setup, and check my card placement in the chassis for busmaster conflicts and stuff before I really whip it all out. |
12:20 | <kvandivo> | CM, you get that single blank frame when the auto skip notify box pops up? |
12:21 | <kvandivo> | and if so, any idea what it could be? |
12:22 | <Captain_Murdoch> | haven't noticed. forget to turn notify on most times. haven't set it to default yet. I'll look now, I'm making a change to comm detection to allow the user to tell it to skip or show blank frames at the end of comm breaks. some people like them cause they provide a little break in the show rather than a quick jump between scenes. |
12:23 | <kvandivo> | ya.. i remember that discussion. don't know if this is related to that or not |
12:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I changed that to stay up for 2 seconds, on my system it wasn't even staying up for 1, no time to read it before it faded. |
12:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that == your popup |
12:23 | <kvandivo> | ya, i noticed that.. sounds fine to me |
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12:24 | <kvandivo> | that's what made me think of the blank frame issue. :) |
12:24 | <Captain_Murdoch> | so you're saying that it displays 1 blank frame when it pops up the notify message? then goes into commercials or what? |
12:27 | <kvandivo> | everything _works_ as expected.. it seems to display a blank frame, and then then popup shows up and the show continues as normal |
12:28 | <kvandivo> | it's not that big of deal.. i've lived with it for a few weeks now, and it is hardly noticeable |
12:28 | <kvandivo> | but i don't see what is causing it, and i thought you mgiht |
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12:38 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what do you think of the pausing when you popup the menu to change auto-skip, etc.. I'm thinking of making it not pause anymore. |
12:38 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'm looking for the blank frame you're talking about now. |
12:41 | <Captain_Murdoch> | saw the blank frame, looking to see if I can see why it's showing up now. wasn't in the video when I went into edit mode. |
12:42 | <kvandivo> | i wasn't horribly enthused about the auto pause in the first place. :) |
12:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | think I see why, testing now. |
12:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | kvandivo: ditto but I thougth it would make sense to pause if you're popping up a menu. I'm going to take it out. |
12:43 | <kvandivo> | well, maybe when the menu gets bigger it will be more of an issue |
12:44 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, might make sense later, but it's annoying now. |
12:45 | <kvandivo> | hmm.. just had a thought.. maybe i could cheat a little bit.. If the user wants to see the number of seconds until the next commercial start/stop when bringing up 'i', I could always remove the 'Position' line and use that.. |
12:45 | <kvandivo> | that way we wouldn't have to worry about themes that expect the box to be 3 lines |
12:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok, pause taken out and your blank-frame thing is fixed as well. |
12:47 | <kvandivo> | excellent.. I'll have to look at what you changed.. alas, I've got to leave for my appointment now.. later |
12:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | don't want to call GetFrame() if just notifying and not actually skipping. |
12:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | not even sure if it's necessary for skipping, might test taking that out as well. |
12:47 | <kvandivo> | Hmm... i thought i had tried tweaking that.. oh well.. as long as it works now.. |
12:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | later.. |
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13:27 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: are you here? |
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13:32 | <engie> | Hi. When I try to run mythfrontend I get "Cannot read the directory: /dev/sound" errors. What causes these? |
13:48 | <Teflon-> | lack of sound driver? |
13:48 | | * Teflon- checks his /dev |
13:49 | <Teflon-> | oh, you're not using devfs |
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14:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | engie, what version of Myth is that? 0.12? |
14:01 | <engie> | Captain_Murdoch: 0.11 - the debian binary install |
14:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok, just checking. it doesn't mean anything really. I fixed cvs a while back to not warn about that. it's just checking for devices in /dev/sound which you don't have so it's no big deal. |
14:02 | <engie> | ahh |
14:02 | <engie> | Do you have any idea why mythfrontend fails then when I go to watch tv? |
14:03 | <engie> | I've changed the input device to the line input with cmix - I think that may have broken it |
14:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | fails with what error? |
14:08 | <engie> | it gives the /dev/sound errors, that's it |
14:08 | <engie> | interestingly enough, I just tested the mythgallery plugin and that seg faults when you go in (no piccy's displayed) and press enter |
14:09 | <engie> | Any ideas? |
14:09 | <Captain_Murdoch> | when you select 'watch tv' in mythfrontend what does it do?. blank screen? |
14:10 | <engie> | nope, just quits back to the xterm command line |
14:10 | <engie> | ahh |
14:10 | <engie> | sprry |
14:10 | <engie> | it sais it can't connect to the backend server |
14:10 | <engie> | it's real hard to read the messages on the telly screen |
14:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | does it say "connecting to backend" and give the IP? |
14:12 | <engie> | I did a /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start (no idea why it wasn't working) |
14:12 | <engie> | now a black screen in mythfrontend... |
14:12 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what does the backend log say? |
14:13 | <engie> | mind if I flood? |
14:13 | <engie> | here it goes.... |
14:14 | <engie> | Starting up as the master server. |
14:14 | <engie> | Probed: /dev/video - Television |
14:14 | <engie> | Probed: /dev/video - Composite1 |
14:14 | <engie> | 2003-11-15 19:11:26 adding: tv as a player 1 |
14:14 | <engie> | 2003-11-15 19:11:26 adding: tv as a player 0 |
14:14 | <engie> | 2003-11-15 19:11:26 adding: tv as a player 0 |
14:14 | <engie> | 2003-11-15 19:11:26 adding: tv as a remote ringbuffer |
14:14 | <engie> | ioctl VIDIOC_G_FMT: Invalid argument |
14:14 | <engie> | audio volume set to '65535' |
14:14 | <engie> | strange error flushing buffer ... |
14:14 | <engie> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
14:14 | <engie> | Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
14:14 | <engie> | 2003-11-15 19:12:34 adding: tv as a player 0 |
14:14 | <engie> | 2003-11-15 19:12:34 adding: tv as a player 0 |
14:14 | <engie> | 2003-11-15 19:12:34 adding: tv as a remote ringbuffer |
14:14 | <engie> | ioctl VIDIOC_G_FMT: Invalid argument |
14:14 | <engie> | strange error flushing buffer ... |
14:14 | <Captain_Murdoch> | have you tried using xawtv to verify your tv card works? |
14:14 | <Captain_Murdoch> | maybe it's not capturing. not sure what vidioc_g_fmt means. |
14:15 | <engie> | The card definately works |
14:15 | <engie> | tvtime's fine |
14:15 | <Captain_Murdoch> | did you search the mailing list for that vidio error? |
14:15 | <engie> | I will now |
14:16 | <engie> | There's this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Dev_F10/CVS_not_switching_to_correct_input_P74279/ |
14:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | if it wasn't on composite in, you'd get static instead of blank screen. |
14:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I think it's not capturing for some reason. |
14:17 | <engie> | yep |
14:17 | <engie> | It's started working |
14:17 | <engie> | looks like going into tvtime tuned in the tuner to the right frequency |
14:17 | <engie> | so now myth picks that up |
14:19 | <engie> | odd |
14:19 | <engie> | anyways, I'm off now |
14:19 | <engie> | will return to play tomorrow |
14:19 | <engie> | thanks a lot for your help |
14:20 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yw |
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14:36 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: here? |
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14:44 | <elho> | hi |
14:47 | <elho> | how can one record just from the video-in? ie. mythtv wantss the input connected with a video source for which one in turn has to choose some xmltv listing |
14:48 | <warlord> | Captain_Murdoch: do you use PVR-350 output? |
14:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | don't have a 350, only a 250 and 3 M179's |
14:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | elho: no way to do that just yet. |
14:50 | <warlord> | Oh well. |
14:51 | <elho> | hm :/ |
14:51 | <engie> | Hi - does anyone know of a good channel for sound related problems? |
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14:52 | <elho> | especially sad given that tv_grab_de doesn't work |
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14:58 | <sfr_> | elho: there are other listings grabber that work for germany. see xmltv's website for one. |
14:59 | <_rkulagow> | elho: see also http://www.bucksch.com/1/projects/various/mythtv/ |
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15:00 | <elho> | yeah, i just found xmlprg_de.pl |
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15:23 | <elho> | it options aren't compatible though |
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15:45 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i'm back now |
15:46 | <warlord> | Hey Chutt.. |
15:47 | <warlord> | I just updated ivtv and mythtv to current CVS.. When I'm watching LiveTV with a -350, the frontend seems to hang whenever the OSD comes on and then goes away (it hangs when the OSD goes away). Any clues where I should start debugging this? |
15:48 | <_rkulagow> | hey chutt: anything wrong with that status patch i mailed you for the frontend? |
15:49 | <Chutt> | does it hang completely? |
15:49 | <Dave114> | warlord: you're running mythtv on a p2-350? new to the software, or just having problems in the upgrade? |
15:49 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, no, it looked fine, but i just haven't had much time to work on this stuff |
15:49 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: ok. |
15:49 | <Chutt> | warlord, or does it come back after you seek again? |
15:50 | <warlord> | Chutt: I wasn't trying to seek. I was trying to change channels, or just hit 'o' to get the osd. |
15:50 | <robertj> | hey Chutt, how are mythtv packages standing these terms in terms of maintainers? |
15:50 | <warlord> | Dave114: PVR-350 |
15:50 | <Chutt> | warlord, ok, well, first thing to do would be to figure out where it's stuck |
15:50 | <warlord> | Chutt: My gdb backtraces haven't been very helpful. |
15:51 | <Chutt> | don't know what to tell you about that |
15:51 | <Dave114> | warlord: ah. just looking for get something like this setup on a system of mine... a p2-450... wondering if there was anyone running it on a low-end system like that |
15:52 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, you can commit that if you'd like |
15:52 | <Chutt> | i really don't mind at all =) |
15:52 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: ok |
15:55 | <warlord> | Dave114: nope. |
15:55 | <warlord> | Chutt: so I take it you've never seen this behavior, huh? |
15:56 | <warlord> | Chutt: another question, if you dont mind. I'd like to adjust the alpha when using the EPG with livetv (to turn off the backgrounded picture).. I know it's hardcoded somewhere, but I dont know what to even look for. Could you possibly point me to the right file/function that controls that? |
15:58 | <elho> | is it ok for the channel names to have spaces? |
15:59 | <elho> | (i don't want to redo the whole filldb should i find out its causing problems later ;)) |
16:00 | <sfr_> | should be ok. |
16:05 | <Chutt> | videoout_ivtv.cpp |
16:06 | <Chutt> | warlord, should be fairly obvious, just search for 'alpha' a few times |
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16:11 | <elho> | damn it, i accidently hit an alphabetic key on id and it just skipped the channel >:| |
16:13 | <linagee_> | why is it that the mpeg2 stream from my pvr250 refuses to play as a DVD mpeg2? and if i remux it, it does play, but the audio/video sync are WAAAY off |
16:13 | <linagee_> | :( |
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16:18 | <warlord> | Chutt: Thanks.. I'll go take a look. |
16:25 | <elho> | umm wait... "Choose a channel number (just like xawtv)" does refer to the "channel = E2" of an xawtvrc (like it sounds) or the program number? |
16:26 | <sfr_> | elho: you are using the --preset option of mythfilldatabase? you should. |
16:26 | <elho> | just used --manual |
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16:40 | <elho> | and whats the "removing conflicting program" stuff it prints at the end of the filldb, won't those be accessible? |
16:42 | <sfr_> | elho: just what it says, fixing shows with overlapping air times. |
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16:43 | <elho> | uhm, and it does show the presets, but cycling through the channels up and down does not use the numeric order of the presets :/ |
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16:44 | <sfr_> | elho: mythfrontend -> Settings -> TV -> get familiar with it :) |
16:47 | <elho> | hmm, so is there any way to disable the removing of overlapping programs? |
16:48 | <sfr_> | elho: how could there be two shows on the same channel and time? |
16:49 | <elho> | i guess its the VPS times that overlap |
16:49 | <sfr_> | mythtv doesn't care about VPS times. |
16:50 | <elho> | yes, thats the problem |
16:51 | <elho> | the xml tv listing seems to use them though and confuse mythtv |
16:52 | <sfr_> | i'm pretty sure that's not the problem. |
16:53 | <elho> | well, i do get pages of conflicting shows and the involved programs are ones which have vps, so vps was my guess |
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17:10 | <elho> | hmm, i tried instant recording, the recording runs, if i delete it in the delete recording section, it disappears in the list but still runs (tv card remains used and after restarting the backend, it reappears in the list) |
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17:49 | <Netslayer> | I've seen a few of these IR ports that you can plug in with USB, anyone know if they are compatible with lirc? What are my other options other then building another one heh? |
17:58 | <elho> | use a tv card which has one ;) |
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18:00 | <lewis_m> | I've got a problem with my Hauppauge PVR 350, I've select S-Video 0 as my input and I get a picture, but it's black and white - and a bit fuzzy. Anyone seen this happen before? |
18:01 | <sfr_> | wrong mode, pal instead of ntsc? |
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18:02 | <lewis_m> | I think in my case it'd be ntsc instead of pal.. not sure though, how do I check that? I have tuner=1 as an option for the ivtv module, which gives tuner(bttv): type forced to 1 (Philips PAL_I (FI1246 and compatibles)) [insmod] in my dmesg |
18:03 | <sfr_> | for pal you need tuner =5 |
18:05 | <lewis_m> | okay, brb |
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18:09 | <lewis_m> | now I don't get any picture, just a black screen, and the dmesg reads tuner(bttv): type forced to 5 (Philips PAL_BG (FI1216 and compatibles)) [insmod] |
18:10 | <lewis_m> | actually, I think type=1 is what I need? I'm in the UK, so I think it's PAL_I I want |
18:14 | <sfr_> | no idea. type 5 works fine here (germany) |
18:17 | <lewis_m> | is there anywhere else that I need to set PAL? with ioctl or anything? |
18:19 | <sfr_> | lewis_m: mythtv of course. |
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20:12 | <engie> | This seems like a silly question, but is there a sure fire way to quit myth? Alt-F4 never seems to work, and killing the x server seems like overkill |
20:13 | <cmorgan> | alt-esc ? |
20:13 | <cmorgan> | or esc? |
20:13 | <sfr_> | engie: mythfrontend Settings TV General |
20:14 | <sfr_> | engie: skip TV |
20:21 | <henry_> | pvr350 livetv first light! |
20:26 | <henry_> | Any recommendations on ivtv CVS? Is 10-31 still the best to use? I'm using a recent cvs, but I've gotten a few lockups. |
20:28 | <linagee> | does anyone know why my pvr250 cannot generate an mpeg2 DVD stream? i set the settings for it to generate a DVD compatible mpeg2 stream, but it doesn't work. ;( |
20:30 | <Doukegata> | can't say I know too much about DVD formats vs MPEG2 formats. |
20:30 | <engie> | sfr_: Thanks! |
20:31 | <Doukegata> | aren't there options in frontend on the different types of MPEG encoding? |
20:34 | <engie> | Does anyone know how I could tell if the system is reading the sound I'm putting into it's microphone socket? |
20:34 | <engie> | before I worry about whether myth's recieving it |
20:34 | <engie> | I've checked there is sound on the cable |
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20:35 | <Captain_Murdoch> | run xawtv and set it to use composite/linein rather than the tuner? |
20:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that will make sure you're getting audio to the card, then you could try recording someting to make sure you're receiving since the other audio may just be passing through. |
20:37 | <engie> | Captain_Murdoch: Thanks I'll try that. do you know a good (command line preferred) recording app |
20:38 | <engie> | ? |
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20:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | not sure. if your card is full-duplex you might be able to do: dd if=/dev/dsp of=/dev/dsp bs=1024 count=1024 |
20:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | haven't used any except 'record' and not sure where i got that from. |
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20:57 | <Chutt> | why are ivtv issues my fault? |
20:58 | <josephk> | Because you're chutt |
20:58 | <josephk> | and I blame you |
20:59 | <josephk> | it's such a blameable name ya know |
20:59 | <josephk> | isaac isn't any better for blame |
20:59 | <josephk> | both names carry great blame |
20:59 | <Chutt> | heh |
20:59 | <josephk> | lucky number 1,17,26,43,54 |
21:00 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, nice work on the commits =) |
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21:00 | <josephk> | well I got myth to run live tv for 20 hours |
21:00 | <josephk> | reboot, and now I can't get 20 minutes |
21:01 | <josephk> | this sounds like chutt's doing...he ssh'd into my box I bet |
21:01 | <josephk> | always breaking my stuff |
21:03 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, buncha stuff I've either had in my tree for a while or had been thinking about for a while off and on. |
21:03 | <Captain_Murdoch> | looking over my TODO to see if there's anything else I want to play with tonight or should I just go actually watch Myth some. :) |
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21:08 | <mirk> | Greetings...I just installed .12 from Axel's rpms. There appears to be a bug that causes the backend to die when using multiple tuner cards. I saw a list posting that reported it, but didn't see anything about whether it's been fixed or not. Anyone know? |
21:08 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what bug? lots of people use multiple tuners. |
21:09 | <josephk> | that sounds like a feature to me |
21:09 | <josephk> | no bugs here |
21:09 | <josephk> | :) |
21:09 | <mirk> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=90135;search_string=.12%20backend;guest=1575427&t=search_engine#90135 |
21:09 | <mirk> | heh |
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21:10 | <mirk> | I disabled one of my tuners to work around it for now. |
21:10 | <josephk> | I bet it's Chutt's fault |
21:10 | <engie> | I've just found out my mobo doesn't have a line in port on the back, which is a bit poo. |
21:10 | <Chutt> | i use two tuners all the time, there is no bug with that |
21:10 | <mirk> | If it hasn't been debugged, I can try to rebuild with debugging an get a bt. |
21:13 | <engie> | Does myth support recording sound from the microphone port? |
21:13 | <josephk> | myth supports nothing |
21:14 | <Chutt> | it records from whatever your mixer is set to record from |
21:14 | <engie> | hmm |
21:14 | <engie> | I simply can't tell if this board is able to do sound in or not |
21:15 | <engie> | certainly there's no sound on mythtv |
21:15 | <engie> | on windows I'd run sndrec32 or something and check it's picking up an input |
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21:17 | <motardo> | I have a question |
21:18 | <motardo> | how long does it usually take to rebuild a video database? |
21:19 | <motardo> | or: how can I delete what's in the database and restart? |
21:19 | <Chutt> | mythtv-users@mythtv.org |
21:19 | <Chutt> | mailing list for questions |
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21:23 | <josephk> | irc is for answers |
21:23 | <josephk> | not questiosn |
21:23 | <engie> | 42 |
21:23 | <Chutt> | questions are more likely to get answered on the mailing list |
21:23 | <Chutt> | as that's what it's there for |
21:24 | <josephk> | yes that is true |
21:24 | <josephk> | but I blame Chutt for that |
21:24 | <motardo> | hehe |
21:24 | <motardo> | ok |
21:27 | <josephk> | lot of blame going around on the mailing lists |
21:28 | <josephk> | everyone blaming VIA boards, mythbackend, ivtv... |
21:29 | <mirk> | It's the aliens. They're causing all this. |
21:30 | <josephk> | that can mean only one thing |
21:30 | | * mirk waits... |
21:31 | <josephk> | the aliens have taken the real chutt, and while they experiment with him on their ship, they are using a doppelganger to do their evil deeds |
21:31 | <josephk> | its only logical |
21:36 | <engie> | does myth require lame? |
21:36 | <josephk> | yessireebob |
21:36 | <engie> | hmm |
21:36 | <engie> | I guess not having it is a bad thing... |
21:36 | <josephk> | nah |
21:37 | <engie> | josephk: ? |
21:37 | <josephk> | lol |
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21:42 | <bishop> | is there anywhere i can see a roadmap of what's coming up in myth? |
21:45 | <linagee> | cool. ivtv supports a framebuffer for pvr350 |
21:46 | <linagee> | bishop: check out the CVS commit mailing list. quit a few experimental things in the works. heh |
21:46 | <josephk> | ivtv driver is borked? I didn't notice...at least current cvs |
21:47 | <linagee> | josephk: ivtv is not borked. |
21:47 | <linagee> | josephk: they just didn't have ivtv-fb last time i updated |
21:47 | <linagee> | (not that i even own a pvr350, but, heh, nice to know it's there. ;) ) |
21:49 | <bishop> | linagee: where is the commits mailing list archived? |
21:50 | <bishop> | linagee: nevermind. |
21:50 | <linagee> | bishop: found it? |
21:52 | <bishop> | yeah. but with every subject as "mythtv commits" it's not too helpful |
21:52 | <linagee> | bishop: i know |
21:52 | <linagee> | bishop: maybe the other list. haven't even looked at it |
21:53 | <bishop> | is cvs.mythtv.org up to date? |
21:56 | <linagee> | bishop: not sure |
22:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | cvs.mythtv.org is always up to date. |
22:03 | <linagee> | woohoo. looks like i may have my DVD mpeg2 sync issues fixed. ;) |
22:03 | <linagee> | just by using stream_type=13 instead of stream_type=0 |
22:04 | <linagee> | i still have to remux the mpeg2 stream, but it's a whole lot better! |
22:04 | <josephk> | hmmm...dvd special 1? |
22:04 | <linagee> | josephk: yep. they added that enumeration in the latest ivtv |
22:04 | <Chiphead> | when was the schema last changed? |
22:05 | <linagee> | josephk: i was trying normal DVD before, didn't work |
22:05 | <josephk> | why not 14? |
22:05 | <linagee> | josephk: that one works too. not sure of the difference. |
22:06 | <linagee> | josephk: now the only problem is that i have old shows that were recorded using the other stream method. LOL |
22:06 | <linagee> | josephk: i can remux the old streams but the audio/video gets WAAAAY out of sync |
22:07 | <josephk> | well at least it shouldn't be a problem in the future;) |
22:07 | <linagee> | josephk: yeah, but now how will i burn all my simpsons halloween episodes? ;( |
22:07 | <linagee> | lol |
22:08 | <josephk> | carefully? |
22:09 | <mikegrb> | with a magnifying glass and sun light |
22:09 | <linagee> | josephk: or i'll just erase them |
22:09 | <josephk> | that works for me |
22:09 | <linagee> | josephk: even the out of sync DVD-R i made (first one from this drive) looks pretty cool though! :) |
22:10 | <linagee> | josephk: it looks clearer than watching TV on the same screen. hehe |
22:10 | <josephk> | do you have dnr turned on? |
22:11 | <linagee> | josephk: not sure |
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22:11 | <linagee> | josephk: or i should say, it's at the defaults |
22:11 | <josephk> | I guess no then |
22:12 | <mikegrb> | linagee: are you burning stuff recorded with a pvr card? |
22:12 | <linagee> | ut ohh... sync issues again. :( |
22:12 | <linagee> | mikegrb: trying to. lol |
22:12 | <mikegrb> | heh I just scrolled up |
22:12 | <mikegrb> | are you using avidemux2 in the process? |
22:12 | <linagee> | i think stream_type=13 is working better than 14 |
22:13 | <linagee> | mikegrb: i'm using dvb-mplex. didn't know about this "avidemux2" |
22:13 | <linagee> | mikegrb: going from mpeg2->mpeg2 |
22:13 | <mikegrb> | oh |
22:13 | <mikegrb> | avidemux2 has a gui |
22:13 | <linagee> | mikegrb: ah. |
22:13 | <mikegrb> | it can use the ffmpeg library to transcode |
22:14 | <mikegrb> | also lets you do filters for video, resize, de-interlace etc |
22:14 | <linagee> | argh. i hate this. it's tuned to a sports channel and i have no idea how to command-line change channels with my pvr250. :( |
22:14 | <mikegrb> | you should give it a shot, might like it |
22:14 | | * mikegrb has software encoding |
22:14 | <linagee> | mikegrb: i want something that's going to take the least amount of time. the video is pretty much already in the format i need |
22:15 | <mikegrb> | avidemux might work for you, I'd give it a shot |
22:15 | <linagee> | show some lips! argh |
22:15 | <Chiphead> | linagee, use ptune.pl its in the utils dir of the ivtv dir |
22:15 | <linagee> | dumb sports channel |
22:15 | | * linagee tries this |
22:15 | <mikegrb> | it reads myth nuv's... well not the audio but it gets the video :) |
22:15 | <linagee> | Chiphead: Can't locate Video/Frequencies.pm i |
22:15 | | * linagee goes to the site |
22:16 | <Chiphead> | that a perl module you need read the docs |
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22:17 | <Chiphead> | mikegrb, videmux breaks audio synce at least for me |
22:17 | <mikegrb> | well, I haven't gotten any audio yet |
22:17 | <dopez> | avidemux and mythtv's nuv looses sync when you use mp3 audio, using pcm works without a problem |
22:17 | <mikegrb> | going to have to do cmd line mythtranscode fifo's -> ffmpeg |
22:18 | <linagee> | great. Can't locate Config/IniFiles.pm |
22:18 | <dopez> | (for me at least :) |
22:18 | <linagee> | :( |
22:18 | <linagee> | ah. good. i have cpan. :) |
22:18 | <mikegrb> | dopez: avidemux read a software encoded nuv for you? |
22:18 | <Chiphead> | oh... well I have only found one way that wouks reliable when eniting out comercials and maintaining audio sync |
22:18 | | * mikegrb hasn't made a dvd from mpeg4 nuv's yet |
22:19 | <mikegrb> | avidemux doesn't seem to find the audio, even when using pcm rather then mp3 |
22:19 | <linagee> | mikegrb: you'd need to convert to mpeg2 first. (unless it was for computers only) |
22:19 | <mikegrb> | right |
22:19 | <dopez> | mikegrb: yeah, mpeg4 with pcm audio .nuv file work fine, i used to do reencode them all the time, now i'm using a pvr250 and still use avidemux to reencode |
22:20 | <linagee> | woohoo. got ptune.pl working! :) |
22:20 | <mikegrb> | I've used avidemux to make a proper mpeg2, just without the audio |
22:20 | <mikegrb> | dopez: avidemux or avidemux2? |
22:20 | <dopez> | avidemux2 |
22:20 | <mikegrb> | weird |
22:20 | <mikegrb> | I get no sound |
22:20 | <Chiphead> | transcode is the only thing have have got to work when removing comercials that didnt break audio sync |
22:20 | <dopez> | avidemux(1) is pretty outdated allready |
22:20 | <mikegrb> | right |
22:21 | <mikegrb> | I've tried pcm and mp3 |
22:21 | <dopez> | odd indeed, maybe check the forum ? |
22:21 | <linagee> | mikegrb: mp2? |
22:21 | <mikegrb> | do you tell it to process audio |
22:21 | <linagee> | mikegrb: most DVDs use mp2. (or all. wouldn't stake my life on it) |
22:21 | <mikegrb> | linagee: right I'be made mp2 format video, avidemux isn't properly finding the audio on the input file |
22:22 | <mikegrb> | dopez: thanks, I will certainly look into it more |
22:22 | <dopez> | i process audio (to raw/pcm .wav) encode to ogg/vorbis |
22:22 | <linagee> | mikegrb: mpeg2 audio also? |
22:22 | <mikegrb> | dopez: I figured it was a lost cause |
22:22 | <Chiphead> | mikegrb, did you see the script I posted? It should be ablke to output you dvd compliany fioles |
22:22 | <mikegrb> | linagee: yes on the final output |
22:22 | <Chiphead> | just changes the output plugin |
22:22 | <mikegrb> | Chiphead: really |
22:22 | <mikegrb> | Chiphead: subject of email? |
22:22 | <linagee> | all right. switched channels and dumped some test data! :) |
22:23 | <Chiphead> | it uses transcode and reads the cut list from the database |
22:23 | <Chiphead> | no audio sync problems |
22:23 | <Chiphead> | sec |
22:23 | <linagee> | Chiphead: any idea why my mythtv frontend would stop responded to interactive editing? |
22:23 | <mikegrb> | works okay without a cutlist? |
22:23 | <linagee> | Chiphead: maybe i'm using the wrong key? |
22:24 | <Chiphead> | mikegrb, in this thread http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Dev_F10/PVR_250_%26_Linux_vs_Windows_PVRs_P89674/ |
22:24 | <Chiphead> | yeah will work w/o cutlist |
22:25 | <Chiphead> | but prettymuch anything will encode np w/o editing |
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22:25 | <Chiphead> | its when you start to edit you get audio sync problems |
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22:25 | <Chiphead> | linagee, I have no idea sry |
22:25 | <Doukegata> | can I use transcode to clip out a little segment from a saved video? I'm using a pvr-350, so the .nuv files are really just mpeg2 files. |
22:26 | <linagee> | Chiphead: what if you always jump to keyframes and cut there, when editing? |
22:26 | <Doukegata> | and I want the little clip to also be mpeg2 |
22:26 | <Chiphead> | yes looik at that script for the commands to do that Doukegata |
22:26 | <Chiphead> | you will have to change the out plugin transcode uses |
22:26 | <Chiphead> | for mpeg2 |
22:26 | <Chiphead> | I use mpeg4 |
22:27 | <Doukegata> | hmm... script.... |
22:27 | | * Doukegata is in over his head |
22:27 | <linagee> | Chiphead: it's too bad they don't make $50 mpeg4 players. (yet? :) ) |
22:27 | <mikegrb> | Chiphead: that looks like pvr only |
22:27 | <linagee> | Chiphead: (whereas they do make $50 dvd players) |
22:27 | <Chiphead> | I have a $150 one |
22:27 | <Chiphead> | its called a xbox |
22:27 | <linagee> | lol |
22:28 | <linagee> | Chiphead: so you could use linux-xbox and play mpeg4. (or use the xbox-mythtv project) |
22:28 | <Chiphead> | seriously... thats why i bought one ... for that purpose only |
22:28 | <Chiphead> | linagee I do ity daily |
22:28 | <Doukegata> | which script is this? and where do I find it? (or where can I read about it) |
22:28 | <Chiphead> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Dev_F10/PVR_250_%26_Linux_vs_Windows_PVRs_P89674/ |
22:28 | <linagee> | Chiphead: too much information! LOL |
22:29 | <Chiphead> | middle of the thread |
22:29 | <Chiphead> | the only one with an attachment |
22:30 | <Chiphead> | search in this page for w_hogue |
22:30 | <linagee> | Chiphead: this is the script? :) |
22:30 | <linagee> | Chiphead: 1)Find relevant .nuv file in your recordings directory. |
22:30 | <linagee> | 2)Rename .nuv to .mpg |
22:30 | <linagee> | 3)There is no step 3 |
22:30 | <Chiphead> | no |
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22:31 | <Chiphead> | search for w_hogue on that page |
22:31 | <linagee> | ah |
22:31 | <Chiphead> | I should post it to users... some others may find it useful |
22:32 | <Chiphead> | I posted it there cause I guy was complaining he couldn't edit w/o loosing sync... I fought for weeks with the same problem |
22:32 | <mikegrb> | Chiphead: that is pvr specific right? |
22:32 | <Chiphead> | no... transcode can read nuv files so should work for anything |
22:33 | <mikegrb> | really? |
22:33 | <mikegrb> | myth format? |
22:33 | <Chiphead> | the latest versions do I beleive |
22:33 | <mikegrb> | spiffy |
22:33 | <mikegrb> | I didn't realize that |
22:33 | <FryGuy> | get mythlink.sh |
22:33 | <FryGuy> | it works great |
22:33 | <Chiphead> | Oh is myth different than reg |
22:33 | <mikegrb> | yes |
22:33 | <mikegrb> | FryGuy: ? |
22:34 | <Chiphead> | well then prolly not sry. but it works great for the 250 and 350 users |
22:34 | <FryGuy> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=2165;guest=1575777&t=search_engine |
22:34 | <FryGuy> | just set your directories up inside it, and run it and it will create a pretty listing of the directory |
22:34 | <mikegrb> | oh |
22:34 | <mikegrb> | I remember that |
22:34 | <Chiphead> | mikegrb, you could use mythtranscode to write to a fifo dir and transcode can read that |
22:35 | <mikegrb> | Chiphead: right |
22:35 | <mikegrb> | Chiphead: that is the method I will probably use |
22:35 | <FryGuy> | then just double click on the files through explorer and you can open with windows media player |
22:35 | <mikegrb> | just haven't messed around with it recently |
22:35 | <FryGuy> | you don't have to rename them if you do that |
22:35 | <Chiphead> | I originally tried that route but lost sync when cutting |
22:36 | <FryGuy> | as long as you have DSMyth (if they're in mpeg4/rtjpeg), or if they're hardware encoded with a pvr250 |
22:36 | <FryGuy> | i might be talking about the wrong thing though |
22:36 | <Chiphead> | FryGuy, what does that have to do to encodign for dvd? |
22:38 | <Chiphead> | mikegrb, will work fine if you dont need to do any cuts |
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22:41 | <linagee> | Chiphead: which key enters cutting mode in mythtv? (to edit) |
22:42 | <Chiphead> | I dunno its the menu key on my remote |
22:42 | <Chiphead> | check keys.txt |
22:43 | <linagee> | Chiphead: from there: E or M enters/exits edit mode. |
22:43 | <linagee> | i push E or M while playing a recording and nothing happens? ;( |
22:43 | <Chiphead> | ok then thats it |
22:44 | <linagee> | q works. p works.... |
22:44 | <Chiphead> | I noticed on some of my recordings as of late I cant as well till commflag has run. |
22:44 | <linagee> | maybe i have something wrong in the configuration screen? |
22:44 | <linagee> | commflag? |
22:44 | <Chiphead> | I think something may have been broken lately |
22:45 | <Chiphead> | mythcommflag runs after a recordign to mark the commercials if you have flag commercials set |
22:45 | <linagee> | Chiphead: great. i wonder which version i should revert to so it works. |
22:45 | <Chiphead> | I know it worked all the time in 12 |
22:46 | <Chiphead> | just run mythcommflag --all and it will flag everything |
22:46 | <linagee> | what the heck. i press M several times and i get the interactive screen showing me the program guide |
22:46 | <linagee> | ?!!?!? :( |
22:46 | <Chiphead> | livetv? |
22:46 | <linagee> | someone goofed something. :( |
22:46 | <linagee> | Chiphead: nope. watching a recording |
22:46 | <Chiphead> | heh |
22:47 | <linagee> | which makes no sense. i thought the program guide was for live tv |
22:47 | <Chiphead> | the cvs have been rocky as of late lots of experimental stuff happening |
22:47 | | * linagee considers moving back to 0.11 |
22:47 | <linagee> | (and i'm using debs too. never should have upgraded) |
22:48 | <linagee> | actually tried to get 0.12 to compile. errors. |
22:49 | <Chiphead> | the only I could get my environment set so I could build from source was to manually build all the dependancies. no packages |
22:49 | <linagee> | it's not a dependency problem. it's a miscoding problem |
22:50 | <Chiphead> | lame, qt, mysql etc all from source |
22:50 | <linagee> | videoout_ivtv.cpp: In destructor `virtual VideoOutputIvtv::~VideoOutputIvtv()': |
22:50 | <linagee> | videoout_ivtv.cpp:58: error: parse error before `[' token |
22:50 | <linagee> | videoout_ivtv.cpp:67: error: parse error before `[' token |
22:50 | <Doukegata> | Chiphead: from the description of that script you posted, it looks like it transcodes into mpeg4. I just want to take a makred segment and remux that segment into it's own file. is there anything that will do that? |
22:50 | <Chiphead> | what version of gcc? |
22:50 | <linagee> | looking through code, can't find any problems... |
22:50 | <linagee> | 3.3..... argh |
22:50 | <linagee> | that may be a problem |
22:50 | <linagee> | (weird though. hasn't caused any other problems) |
22:51 | <linagee> | (i mean that i've compiled lots of stuff previous) |
22:51 | <Chiphead> | Doukegata, you cna change the output codec use bbmpeg of simular codec |
22:51 | <Chiphead> | yes 3.3 is evil |
22:51 | <Chiphead> | use 3.2 |
22:51 | <linagee> | Chiphead: evil? |
22:51 | <linagee> | Chiphead: argh. must be too unstable on the debian. hehe |
22:51 | <josephk> | spawn of satan |
22:52 | <linagee> | any idea how to get debian to revert just gcc to a lower version of gcc? |
22:52 | | * Chiphead has had several problems with several packages on several platforms when compiling with 3.3 |
22:52 | <Doukegata> | Chiphead: but that's still transcoding... I don't want to transcode. I want to take existing coded bits, and remux them |
22:52 | <Chiphead> | yoiu can just apt-get install gcc-3.2 |
22:52 | <Chiphead> | they can co-exist |
22:52 | <linagee> | Chiphead: ahhh. thanks. ;) |
22:52 | <Chiphead> | just change the links in /usr/bin to point to the version you want to use |
22:53 | <linagee> | weird. 3.3 is evil and 3.2 works? heh |
22:53 | <Chiphead> | thats my experience... chutty uses 3.3 though |
22:53 | <Chiphead> | s/chutty/chtt |
22:55 | <linagee> | ok. trying a recompile of mythtv 0.12 :) |
22:55 | | * linagee cross fingers/legs/toes |
22:55 | <Chiphead> | Doukegata,when you find that let me know. Only thing I knwo that can do that is tmpeg on windows |
22:56 | <Doukegata> | exactly, but tmpgenc isn't free. |
22:56 | | * Chiphead knows that |
22:57 | | * Chiphead has also searched for it w/no luck |
22:57 | | * Chiphead has given up |
22:57 | | * Chiphead has settled for mpeg4 and playback on the xbox |
22:58 | <linagee> | Chiphead: what about transcode -F -y 3 |
22:58 | <linagee> | ? |
22:58 | <Chiphead> | I can get a whole 1/2 season on a dvd or 1/2 an hour season on a dvd |
22:58 | <linagee> | should turn it back into mpeg2 |
22:58 | <linagee> | -F -y 8 for mpeg2 DVD |
22:58 | <Chiphead> | still transcoding |
22:58 | <linagee> | Chiphead: not sure. i'll try it on a test stream in a second |
22:59 | <Chiphead> | if Im going to transcode. I may as well save space wqhile Im at it |
23:01 | <linagee> | Chiphead: depends if you want a DVD compatible stream. ;) |
23:02 | | * Chiphead wants no comercials. format is of no matter |
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23:03 | <linagee> | Chiphead: right. me too. :) |
23:03 | <Chiphead> | so if I have to transcode at all then I will opt for mpeg4 and save space |
23:04 | <linagee> | Chiphead: remuxing is a whole lot faster than re encoding. ;) |
23:04 | <Chiphead> | I know... so is it remuxing or transcoding that was the question? |
23:05 | <linagee> | Chiphead: transcode isn't the one that does it anyway. it's the libraries you use with transcode. (AFAIK) |
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23:05 | <Chiphead> | and does the remux result in audio sync after removing the comercials |
23:05 | <linagee> | Chiphead: no idea. that's why i'm testing. ;) |
23:05 | <linagee> | argh. keeps failing |
23:05 | | * linagee kicks transcode |
23:05 | <Chiphead> | :) I worked for weeks with various setting... |
23:06 | <linagee> | Chiphead: i know. very frustrating. ;) |
23:06 | <Chiphead> | Im not saying it cant be done... but I couldnt find it |
23:06 | <Doukegata> | someone in #ivtv-dev suggested gopchop... |
23:06 | <Chiphead> | I did find a bullet proof way to transcode w/o comercials though and result in beautiful mpeg4 |
23:06 | <Doukegata> | don't know how well that would work |
23:07 | <Chiphead> | gopchop is incomplete... messes up the timecodes |
23:07 | <Chiphead> | and its not command line gui only cant be automated |
23:07 | <Doukegata> | true... |
23:07 | | * Chiphead has looked at it aqlso |
23:08 | <Doukegata> | I wonder if there's anything similar, then |
23:08 | <Chiphead> | we are talking about chipheads holy grail :) |
23:08 | <linagee> | hrm... tcmplex looks interesting. |
23:09 | | * Chiphead couldnt get audio sync w/it |
23:09 | <linagee> | ERROR: File /tmp/test.mpeg is not a 11172-2 or 13818-2 Video stream. |
23:09 | <linagee> | argh |
23:09 | <linagee> | won't even get that far |
23:09 | <linagee> | it's spitting back in my face |
23:10 | <Doukegata> | heh, is demultiplexate even a word? |
23:10 | <Chiphead> | lol |
23:11 | <linagee> | dvb-mplex seems to work. |
23:11 | <linagee> | or maybe that's because my pvr250 is outputting a DVD mpeg2 compliant stream now |
23:11 | <linagee> | heh |
23:11 | <Doukegata> | I have to start a list of progs to test... |
23:12 | <Doukegata> | so far I've got, gopchop, avidemux, tcmplex, dvb-mplex.. |
23:12 | <Doukegata> | i feel like I left one out |
23:12 | <Chiphead> | l?v linux somethign video... its new hust saw something aboiut it havenet tried it yet |
23:12 | <linagee> | Doukegata: transcode? :) |
23:13 | <linagee> | Doukegata: mencoder? (not sure if that remuxes) |
23:13 | <Chiphead> | nope |
23:13 | <Chiphead> | couldnt maintain sync |
23:14 | <linagee> | Chiphead: using a pvr250? |
23:14 | <Chiphead> | yep |
23:14 | <linagee> | Chiphead: try the DVD complaint mpeg2 stream. ;) |
23:14 | <Chiphead> | in an old ass ppro 400 |
23:14 | <linagee> | Chiphead: weird part was, it played out of sync in this computer and on the dvd player. |
23:15 | <linagee> | Chiphead: i told pvr250 to use DVD mpeg2 complaint stream, and now the computer plays it right |
23:15 | <linagee> | Chiphead: my guess is that it should be set to DVD mpeg2 complaint stream by default. |
23:15 | <Doukegata> | is transcode part of mythtv, or it's own program? |
23:15 | <Chiphead> | Oh my unedited streams are never a problem |
23:15 | <linagee> | Doukegata: it's own program |
23:15 | <Chiphead> | its own program |
23:15 | <linagee> | Chiphead: my unedited streams are never a problem either |
23:15 | <linagee> | Chiphead: does the audio video get WAaaaaay out of sync the longer you get into the mpeg? |
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23:16 | <linagee> | Chiphead: the video gets behind the audio? |
23:16 | <Chiphead> | no only after the editi and after each edit it gets worse |
23:16 | <linagee> | or i mean, vise versa? |
23:16 | <linagee> | Chiphead: you just might give it a try if you have free time. ;) |
23:17 | <Chiphead> | I dont remember.. I stopped trrying 2 months ago when i settled for mpeg4 and get it working |
23:17 | <linagee> | Chiphead: test_ioctl -c stream_type=13 |
23:17 | <linagee> | (that's for a pvr250/pvr350) |
23:17 | <Doukegata> | maybe I need one of these: http://www.norpak.ca/TES8.htm :P |
23:17 | <linagee> | Doukegata: riiiight.... :-P |
23:17 | <Chiphead> | and what did you use to remux comercials out? |
23:18 | <linagee> | Chiphead: haven't done that yet as my mythtv is recompiling. ;) |
23:18 | <linagee> | Chiphead: does mythtv use transcode to remux an mpeg2 stream? |
23:18 | <linagee> | and if so, what command line does it use? ;) |
23:18 | <Chiphead> | Well what were you talkking about |
23:18 | | * linagee digs through source |
23:18 | <Chiphead> | wehen you said you had sync problems till you changed to dvd compliant stream? |
23:19 | <Chiphead> | myth doesnt remux |
23:19 | <Chiphead> | it transcodes |
23:19 | <linagee> | Chiphead: transcoder can remux? (i think... ;) ) |
23:19 | <Chiphead> | yes but myth uses its own transcode |
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23:21 | <Chiphead> | so what were you talking about when you said you had sync problems till you changed to dvd compliant stream? |
23:21 | <Chiphead> | if yo wernt remuxing? |
23:23 | <Doukegata> | bleh... i guess I killed mythbackend onece while it was transcoding (i didn't know what it was doing), now i always have a zombie mythtranscode process |
23:23 | <Chiphead> | :) |
23:23 | <Chiphead> | night of the living dead |
23:24 | <Doukegata> | any ideas how I can get it to finish transcoding whatever it was working on? |
23:24 | <Chiphead> | I dunno... never used it |
23:25 | <Chiphead> | my backend ios to slow... would take 4 days to transcode a 1 hour show |
23:25 | <Chiphead> | I get about 1.6 fps |
23:26 | <linagee> | HAH! |
23:26 | <Doukegata> | I think it was just working to mark commercials... |
23:26 | <linagee> | interesting. |
23:26 | <linagee> | i got transcode to use my stream |
23:26 | <Doukegata> | I didn't have it set to do any fancy transcoding |
23:26 | <linagee> | i put it through dvb-mplex first |
23:27 | <linagee> | and now transcode works. (w/o the invalid packet size error) |
23:27 | <Chiphead> | oh then just run mythtranscode --force --file filename |
23:27 | | * Doukegata has some transcoding reading up to do. |
23:27 | <Chiphead> | soy |
23:27 | <linagee> | great. so dvb-mplex does something that my pvr250 streams need...... |
23:27 | <Chiphead> | s/mythtranscode/mythcommflag |
23:27 | <linagee> | now to figure out what it is.... |
23:28 | <Chiphead> | Doukegata, mythcommflag --force --file filename.nuv will start flagging that file again |
23:31 | <linagee> | argh. transcode is NOT remuxing. 2fps? |
23:31 | <Chiphead> | :) |
23:32 | <Chiphead> | like I said... figure it out and let me know... I think if there was a way to easily do it automatically, it would be in myth |
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23:33 | <Chiphead> | Im crashing guts. |
23:33 | <Chiphead> | talk to ya later |
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23:43 | <Doukegata> | anyone know how to recreate the /dev/lircd device? |
23:44 | <_rkulagow> | mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0 |
23:59 | <Doukegata> | no, not lirc, lircd with the 'd' at the end |
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