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| 02:16 | <o_cee> | allright.. got a bt on mythtranscode now.. |
| 02:16 | <o_cee> | sending it.. |
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| 02:25 | <o_cee> | ouch, the message got to big, heheh.. Chutt, will you let it through (60385 bytes with a limit of 40 KB) or should i resend in some other way? |
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| 03:29 | <StuartL> | Morning. |
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| 09:21 | <bitbyte> | mornin |
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| 09:26 | <jsldub> | hello |
| 09:26 | <bitbyte> | how are ya? |
| 09:27 | <bitbyte> | I'm very interested in building an htpc using MythTV, but am having a hard time finding definitive information regarding HDTV cards that will work with MythTV and to what extent. I've seen that is supports the pcHDTV card. But little about what level of support. |
| 09:29 | <jsldub> | how are these pvr boxen set up usually? i know i need a tv capture card for cable input. but what about outputting back to a tv. |
| 09:29 | <bitbyte> | Are there any other cards it supports? I noticed the pcHDTV card only has F connectors on it, and honestly can't figure out how you would get an HDTV signal into it. Unless it only supports calbe hdtv input. |
| 09:34 | <bitbyte> | hmm, it seems you can only do OTA hd with it, is that correct? |
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| 09:53 | <_Nero_> | I am trying to compile a new kernel.. is there anything specific I would have to include to get ivtv working? |
| 09:53 | <kvandivo> | other than what is detailed on the ivtv website documentation/instructions/faq ? |
| 09:55 | <_Nero_> | yup |
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| 10:00 | <bitbyte> | hmm |
| 10:00 | <bitbyte> | ivtv? |
| 10:01 | <_Nero_> | yes.. for the Hauppage cards used with mythtv |
| 10:01 | <bitbyte> | ya, i see that now |
| 10:02 | <bitbyte> | where can i find some detailed info regarding hdtv cards and MythTV? |
| 10:02 | <kvandivo> | the mailing list archives would be an ideal place to start |
| 10:02 | <kvandivo> | it has been discussed ad nauseum |
| 10:02 | <bitbyte> | hm |
| 10:03 | <bitbyte> | i recently found archives of that on gossamer threads or something |
| 10:03 | <bitbyte> | is that th best place to be able to search? |
| 10:03 | <kvandivo> | go to the mythtv.org website. there is a link to archives that are searchabe |
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| 10:05 | <bitbyte> | pity there's no proper forum site. mailing lists are ummm... full of extraneous information since each posting typically contains all the previous postings in that topic |
| 10:05 | <kvandivo> | search for that in the archives. it's another topic that has been discussed to death |
| 10:05 | <bitbyte> | i know, i saw a few regarding it |
| 10:06 | <kvandivo> | :) |
| 10:06 | <bitbyte> | i've actually been there |
| 10:06 | <bitbyte> | and in 30 or 45 minutes of searching did little else than scroll through page after page of the same thing |
| 10:06 | <bitbyte> | i'll continue to search |
| 10:06 | <_Nero_> | Ugh.. I want to throw this machine out the window.. |
| 10:06 | <kvandivo> | burn it. play your part! |
| 10:06 | <bitbyte> | know if theres any plans to add hdtv cards to the list of hardware? |
| 10:07 | <_Nero_> | fire.. that sounds fun.. |
| 10:07 | <warlord> | I still think it's a h/w problem, nero |
| 10:07 | <_Nero_> | warlord- I am starting to think the same.. |
| 10:07 | <_Nero_> | although, it runs stable as can be in Windows.. |
| 10:07 | <sfr> | _Nero_: or send it to me. |
| 10:08 | <_Nero_> | heh... |
| 10:11 | | * _Nero_ wishes he had stayed away from nForce2... |
| 10:11 | <warlord> | heh |
| 10:11 | <warlord> | what CPU? |
| 10:11 | | * warlord has a MSI K7N2G-L mobo, which is nForce2 |
| 10:12 | <_Nero_> | Athlon XP 2600+ |
| 10:12 | <warlord> | same here. |
| 10:12 | <warlord> | Works like a charm on my system. |
| 10:13 | <_Nero_> | and you are running the stock redhat kernel? |
| 10:13 | <warlord> | yes |
| 10:13 | <_Nero_> | do you use ivtv? |
| 10:13 | <warlord> | yes |
| 10:13 | <_Nero_> | ok.. I think I am going to give that a whirl.. |
| 10:13 | <_Nero_> | Anything special I have to do to get ivtv working with that kernel? (I know the kernel I am using has v4l2 built in) |
| 10:13 | <bitbyte> | so you can't use a pcHDTV card and somthing like an avertv card in the same system with MythTV? Am I understanding this correctly? |
| 10:16 | <warlord> | _Nero_: all I did was compile the nforce drivers, ivtv, and lirc.. it all just worked. |
| 10:17 | <_Nero_> | ok.. sounds good.. :) hopefully this will work better.. |
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| 10:54 | <o_cee> | Chutt: did you see my backtrace i sent to the list that got stuck? will you let it through or should i put the bt somewhere else? |
| 11:08 | <mikegrb> | best bet is post it somewhere |
| 11:08 | <mikegrb> | I think he may have those emails go to /dev/null... I wouldn't blame him |
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| 12:09 | <Morph> | hmm hmm. anyone about using a pvr250 with devfs? |
| 12:14 | <Chiphead> | can someone tell me the format of the buffer passed to VideoOutput::PrepareFrame()? |
| 12:15 | <bline> | Morph: yeah |
| 12:16 | <Morph> | bline: did you have to add any option for the ivtv module? |
| 12:18 | <bline> | just normal aliases |
| 12:18 | <Morph> | hmm. |
| 12:18 | <Morph> | /lib/modules/2.4.23-pre9-epia1-nehemiah/kernel/drivers/media/video/ivtv.o: init_module: No such device |
| 12:18 | <Morph> | thats what I get when I try and load the modules |
| 12:18 | <Morph> | er |
| 12:18 | <Morph> | module |
| 12:18 | <StuartL> | You should probably try modprobe, too. |
| 12:18 | <StuartL> | It has a fair about of autodependencies. |
| 12:19 | <Morph> | that is using modprobe. |
| 12:19 | <StuartL> | K... |
| 12:19 | <bline> | anything in dmesg? sounds like it can't find the card though |
| 12:20 | | * StuartL grins at the conversation being duplicated in #ivtv-dev. |
| 12:21 | <Morph> | yeah.. |
| 12:21 | <Morph> | ivtv: SGarray_size = 340, DSGarray_size = 16 |
| 12:21 | <Morph> | ivtv: Error detecting PCI card |
| 12:21 | <Morph> | hmm. |
| 12:21 | | * bline points at #ivtv-dev |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | chiphead, depends, but for software decoding it's yv12 |
| 12:23 | <Chiphead> | thx |
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| 13:04 | <ahbritto> | Is tv_grab_na 0.5.23 working for anyone? |
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| 13:30 | <bishop> | how do you make the stars in mythmusic go up and down?? |
| 13:31 | <sfr> | shake your head... |
| 13:31 | <sfr> | iirc try u or d |
| 13:32 | <bishop> | haha. q on the keyboard makes them go down. can't figure out how to make them go up |
| 13:34 | <sfr> | sigh, i knew that once. |
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| 13:34 | <bishop> | unfortunately it's not listed in keys.txt |
| 13:39 | <bline> | Z |
| 13:40 | <bishop> | bline: thanks!!! |
| 13:40 | <bline> | see playbackbox.cpp for the rest |
| 13:41 | <kvandivo> | seems like warlord made an excel file that went to -dev i think that might have talked about that.. |
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| 13:50 | <warlord> | actually, it was an OOo file, but yea. |
| 13:51 | <warlord> | I only listed the stuff in keys.txt, not the various modules. |
| 13:52 | <kvandivo> | ahh.. oh wel |
| 13:52 | <kvandivo> | well, even |
| 13:53 | <warlord> | I was HOPING the spreadsheet would get into CVS and others would/could expand it.. |
| 13:53 | <warlord> | But it was never done |
| 13:53 | <warlord> | and at this point it's a little out of date, even against keys.txt |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | i don't have a program that can read the spreadsheet, so i never bothered putting it in |
| 13:54 | <warlord> | Chutt: you dont have open office installed? |
| 13:54 | <kvandivo> | you need to redo the entire event handling for myth, warlord, so that the keys are edittable, etc and then it could all be done in the program itself |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | hell no |
| 13:54 | <warlord> | gnumeric? |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:54 | <warlord> | applix? |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:54 | <warlord> | kvandivo: not me! |
| 13:54 | <warlord> | Chutt: what are you, some spreadsheet luddite? ;) |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | i keep hoping that someone will actually do something about the keybindings |
| 13:55 | <kvandivo> | big job.. |
| 13:55 | <kvandivo> | i think we've all _thought_ about it.. |
| 13:56 | <warlord> | hey, i've got an unrelated question, but something you guys might have heard about. I'm seeing a problem on RH9 (in another program) where pthread_cond_signal() never returns... Anyone heard about a RH9 bug like this? |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | signal never returns? |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 13:56 | <warlord> | Yea! |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | no, i've never seen that |
| 14:00 | <warlord> | Didn't think so, but thought I'd ask. |
| 14:15 | <Chutt> | allright, i'm going to start working on keybindings crap this weekend |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | database or xml file, though... |
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| 14:17 | <Chutt> | hmm, and should they be per-frontend host |
| 14:18 | <warlord> | I suspect that yes, they should be per-frontend, with some 'global default' |
| 14:18 | <kvandivo> | perhaps defaults, with the ability to override on a per.. |
| 14:18 | <kvandivo> | ya.... that |
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| 14:18 | <kvandivo> | the trick will be to add key stuff to the module api so that everything has to play together |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:19 | <kvandivo> | well, there will be lots of tricks.. |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | i know how i'm going to handle that, anyway |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | and realistically, most modules don't use that many keybindings |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | it's really just the tv stuff |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | but if i set up some global keys, arrows, select, menu, and info, for instance |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | that covers almost everything |
| 14:20 | <kvandivo> | i guess the master could "tell" the modules to obey "these" keybindings |
| 14:20 | <kvandivo> | make it so they have to implement bindings for certain operations, such as exit, etc, etc |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | oh yeah, and escape |
| 14:28 | <kvandivo> | what i've had going in the back of my mind for some time is a desire to "hot-jump" from module to module.. Like, I'm watching tv and want to check the weather.. Hit the 'w' key.. boom, there it is.. hit escape, and it goes back to my tv show.. |
| 14:29 | <kvandivo> | almost as though mythtv itself needs the ability to have 'modules' |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | i've got ideas on how to do that as well |
| 14:29 | <kvandivo> | or hit 'm', and have it put the current movie times on the screen... stuff like that.. |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | plugins'll register places they can jump to |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | thing before that, though, is i need to add external exit handlers to everything |
| 14:30 | <kvandivo> | nod |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | for your patch |
| 14:30 | <kvandivo> | and you _do_ mean everything.. |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | can you just email me which files got renamed? |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | etc? |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | since that's a whole hell of a lot easier on me |
| 14:31 | <kvandivo> | well, i can.. but it wasn't simple renaming.. all of the classes inside, etc changed |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | and patches against that |
| 14:31 | <kvandivo> | (so that they aren't still called 'rank' |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | i don't like doing a cvs del / cvs add |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | so i'm going to destroy my rollback capacity and move stuff in the repository :p |
| 14:31 | <kvandivo> | ok.. i follow you.. so i'll rename the new to the old, do the diff, etc |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 14:32 | <kvandivo> | ya.. i can do that... i'm leaving town tomorrow for a week, so I'll try to squeeze it in before that |
| 14:33 | <kvandivo> | (the quicker it gets in, the sooner i can quit continually having to update it to work with gigem's changes to what inevitably is the same code) |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | of course =) |
| 14:52 | <lmatter> | Is there a way to tell mythfrontend to exit cleanly, like sending a signal? |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | not externally, no |
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| 14:59 | <lmatter> | ok, thanks. |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | thor, hey |
| 15:00 | <thor_> | hey |
| 15:00 | <thor_> | anything new ? |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | i've been, ah, busy |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | playing games =) |
| 15:01 | <thor_> | yup |
| 15:01 | <thor_> | ah |
| 15:01 | <thor_> | got some real work catch up for the next 3-4 days |
| 15:02 | <thor_> | then back to mfd |
| 15:03 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 15:04 | <thor_> | ... and maybe try implementing some vague thoughts on a p2p system for reccomendations and metadata ... |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | eh, rather get mfd working and in use first =) |
| 15:05 | <thor_> | yup |
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| 15:52 | <kvandivo> | i see that user keith kris is trying hard to get on everyone's good side |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | his first post to the mailing list :p |
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| 16:34 | <o_cee> | Chutt: you around? what about that backtrace i sent in that was to big, what should i do with it? |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | compress it and send it again |
| 16:34 | <o_cee> | okay |
| 16:35 | <Chutt> | i don't go and approve moderated posts |
| 16:35 | <o_cee> | didn't want to send it twice if you let it through |
| 16:39 | <o_cee> | hmm, .tar got even bigger. heheh |
| 16:40 | <o_cee> | no good at this ;) |
| 16:40 | <Chiphead> | is it a single file? |
| 16:41 | <o_cee> | yeah |
| 16:41 | <o_cee> | -Z helped quite a bit |
| 16:41 | <Chiphead> | no need to tar then |
| 16:41 | <Chiphead> | tar is for putting multiple files together into a single file |
| 16:41 | <sfr> | there's a tool called bzip2 ;) |
| 16:41 | <Chiphead> | just bzip it |
| 16:41 | <o_cee> | ohkaay. |
| 16:41 | <o_cee> | ttrying |
| 16:43 | <o_cee> | cool, got it now |
| 16:43 | <o_cee> | sending |
| 16:44 | <o_cee> | hope i got it right |
| 16:54 | <kvandivo> | revised patch has been sent into the ether. |
| 16:55 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | i'll try to get that applied soonish |
| 16:56 | <kvandivo> | who'da thunk that would have been an 80k patch file at the beginning.. oh well.. done now |
| 17:09 | <o_cee> | any comment on the bt? anyone need more info at the moment? soon going to bed here |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | i haven't had time to look at it yet |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | and i probably won't until much later tonight |
| 17:10 | <o_cee> | okay. |
| 17:10 | <o_cee> | i _think_ it contains useful info, looks like it to me at least |
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| 17:31 | <Master-Xi> | Does anyone know what the minimum processor speed is to run MythTV if you have a Win-TV PVR 350? |
| 17:31 | <sfr> | frontend or backend? |
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| 17:37 | <Master-Xi> | what exactly is the difference? |
| 17:37 | <Master-Xi> | don't both have to be running? |
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| 17:52 | <o_cee> | not necesarrily on the same machine |
| 17:54 | <Master-Xi> | it will be on the same machine then |
| 17:54 | <Master-Xi> | you're right, I forgot about that |
| 17:56 | <Master-Xi> | oh well, I guess I'll ask later if any knows anything |
| 17:56 | <Master-Xi> | I posted something on the mailing list as well |
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| 17:59 | <Doukegata> | Master-Xi: I'm running myth on a k6-2/550. it take up almost no processing power just watching video. the OSD stuff seems a little sluggish, though |
| 18:01 | | * kvandivo looks around. |
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| 18:05 | <Doukegata> | where's best place to find out what's changed in CVS since 0.12? |
| 18:06 | <sfr> | Doukegata: the -commits mailing list |
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| 18:09 | <Doukegata> | sfr: thanks |
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| 18:54 | <o_cee> | g'night |
| 18:54 | <warlord> | see ya |
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| 18:58 | <sfr> | gn8 |
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| 19:17 | <b1tbkt> | hauppauge card works in xawtv but "waited too long for decoder to pause" |
| 19:17 | <b1tbkt> | anyone familiar with this piece of grief |
| 19:18 | <sfr> | i see that error very seldom |
| 19:18 | <Chutt> | ask on the mailing list. |
| 19:18 | <b1tbkt> | well I see it about once a second when I enter LiveTV |
| 19:19 | <b1tbkt> | Chutt - I can do that but that I'd check in here first |
| 19:19 | <Chutt> | this isn't a support channel. |
| 19:20 | <b1tbkt> | go screw yourself. it's a community channel and it can't hurt to ask a simple question |
| 19:20 | | * thor_ hides under desk (again) |
| 19:20 | <bitbyte> | is there a support channel somewhere? |
| 19:21 | | * sfr lays down next to thor_ |
| 19:21 | | * sfr points to the official support channel: the mythtv-users mailing list |
| 19:23 | <b1tbkt> | and this channel is then steril of any assistance? did I interrupt some involved conversation? it was only a question. |
| 19:23 | <b1tbkt> | s/steril/sterile |
| 19:23 | <thor_> | we're cowering under desks |
| 19:24 | <b1tbkt> | no time for this sillyness. I sincerely thank anyone who did happen to consider my question, if even for a fleeting moment. |
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| 19:24 | <sfr> | no but as Chutt said, it's not a support channel, and _i'm_ not , ...yeah nice to meet you |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | oh, i guess i shouldn't have left right away |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | ah well, too much bother to identify and op myself anyway |
| 19:27 | | * sfr thinks, that floor needs some cleaning |
| 19:27 | <thor_> | hmmm ... dust bunnies |
| 19:27 | <josephk> | maybe there could be a dev channel and a support channel... |
| 19:28 | <josephk> | so only people with questions will be in the support channel, and only people with answers will be in the dev channel |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | that's why there isn't a support channel |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | people that have never been in here before, and don't even bother to say 'hi' or anything before asking a support question piss me off |
| 19:28 | <sfr> | and how should both channels communicate? maybe in #myth-lobby ;) |
| 19:29 | <josephk> | no communication |
| 19:29 | <josephk> | its just not possible |
| 19:30 | <sfr> | hm, that reminds me. Hi, i'm Stefan btw. |
| 19:30 | <thor_> | anybody here have a "Slim Devices" toy ... either the SliMP3 or the (newer) Squeezebox ? |
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| 19:35 | <josephk> | wow...I didn't snap top pepper shakers could be so dangerous |
| 19:35 | <josephk> | know even |
| 19:35 | <josephk> | my thumb would have typed that...had it not been bleeding |
| 19:35 | <josephk> | lol |
| 19:35 | <cmorgan> | ouch |
| 19:36 | <josephk> | damn thing shattered in my hand |
| 19:36 | <josephk> | I blame Chutt:D |
| 19:36 | <thor_> | just be thankful you don't have a whole Beowulf cluster of 'em |
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| 19:55 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:55 | <Chutt> | someone just emailed me: 'Hey Bud,' |
| 19:55 | <Chutt> | err, yeah. |
| 19:58 | <josephk> | this Chutt's for you |
| 19:59 | <sfr> | that frog ad doesn't work with 'Chutt' |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | the google calculator kicks ass |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | search for '0x7d3 in roman numerals' |
| 20:00 | <josephk> | haha |
| 20:01 | <bitbyte> | i said hi before asking my question |
| 20:03 | <bitbyte> | altho i must say that a support channel would pprobably increase mythtv's follwing significantly. and trust me, i KNOW what a pain it is to have a zillion noobs come in asking the same questions over and over |
| 20:04 | <bitbyte> | i found a proper forum on a site yesterday, the guy is volunteerin his time and resources to running it, people need only come |
| 20:04 | <Chutt> | no, it wouldn't. |
| 20:04 | <josephk> | I don't believe you |
| 20:04 | <josephk> | :D |
| 20:05 | <Chutt> | the mailing list has several thousand people on it. |
| 20:05 | <Chutt> | this channel has 53 people on it. |
| 20:05 | <Chutt> | which is more likely to generate an answer? |
| 20:05 | <Chutt> | hmmmmmmm |
| 20:05 | <bitbyte> | yes, and mailing lists are the pony express of support forums |
| 20:05 | <sfr> | thousands of people? oha |
| 20:06 | <josephk> | a forum would be cool...but I so do love 1000 emails going to my box every few days |
| 20:06 | <josephk> | makes me all warm and fuzzy |
| 20:06 | <Chutt> | web based forms suck. |
| 20:06 | <Chutt> | i'll have nothing to do with one. |
| 20:06 | <bitbyte> | chutt, well, thats due in part to the fact that i had to dig a fair bit to locate this irc channel. if one was listed on the site people would come, altho you are correct that more people are on the mailing list, a proper forum site would be highly beneficial. i for one dont want to muck my email up with zillions of emails from the mailing list |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | this channel isn't advertised anywhere because i don't _want_ idiots joining and asking questions all day. |
| 20:07 | <bitbyte> | i'm guessing chutt is a slackware, gui be damned, harder is better kinda linux guy? |
| 20:07 | <josephk> | lol |
| 20:07 | <josephk> | not quite |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | yeah, that's why there's no gui in mythtv. |
| 20:07 | <sfr> | but as my presence proofes, Chutt you failed ;) |
| 20:08 | <bitbyte> | well then chutt, since you admit this is hard to find, you cant very well use the fact that so few ppl are here as an argument :) |
| 20:08 | <josephk> | Chutt is no bullshit, stock red hat kernel, hardcore ass kicker |
| 20:08 | <sfr> | failed to hide that channel |
| 20:08 | <bitbyte> | is chutt myths progenitor? |
| 20:08 | <Chutt> | josephk, i put debian back on that stock redhat box, since i gave up on via releasing all the decoder stuff as source |
| 20:08 | <Chutt> | bitbyte, yes. |
| 20:09 | <josephk> | I knew it! |
| 20:09 | <josephk> | :D |
| 20:10 | <josephk> | no one could use redhat for more than a week;) |
| 20:10 | <Chutt> | naw, it was on there for a while |
| 20:10 | <sfr> | i installed fedora yesterday. looks nice, but too windows-like for my taste |
| 20:10 | <bitbyte> | myth is an impressive piece of work |
| 20:11 | <bitbyte> | definitive info seems to be hard to find tho |
| 20:12 | <josephk> | ah, but once you know, you know forever |
| 20:12 | <josephk> | you take the knowledge with you |
| 20:12 | <bitbyte> | i spent almost the entier day rutting thru the archives, and left with more questions than answers |
| 20:12 | <josephk> | and over time, Chutt yells at you less |
| 20:13 | <josephk> | you can just feel the love |
| 20:13 | <bitbyte> | i have no problem with this |
| 20:13 | <bitbyte> | except i couldnt get a simple yes or no to confirm whether my understanding was correct or not |
| 20:13 | <bitbyte> | it's ok, i dont mind being yelled at |
| 20:14 | <bitbyte> | well i do, but hey, it's his program, whatcha gonna do? |
| 20:14 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 20:14 | <josephk> | well you've either got to stick around and take it, or leave and figure it out |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | and the 'leave, figure it out, and send in a patch' approach is very much preferred |
| 20:15 | <josephk> | oh I thought it was just leaving that was preferred |
| 20:16 | <josephk> | must just have been my example |
| 20:16 | <josephk> | hehe |
| 20:16 | <Chutt> | ah well, bbl. |
| 20:16 | <bitbyte> | well, while i've been in the IT field for 15 years, i make no claims to be a coder of any sort |
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| 20:18 | <bitbyte> | i only reuire a nudge in the right direction |
| 20:18 | <bitbyte> | heh |
| 20:18 | <josephk> | what it is your question? |
| 20:19 | <bitbyte> | i had high hopes of having an hdtv mythtv box |
| 20:19 | <josephk> | eek |
| 20:19 | <bitbyte> | but its my understandgin you can only do hdtv and not other formats |
| 20:19 | <bitbyte> | i understand now thats the case |
| 20:20 | <bitbyte> | not wortht the cost of having a dedicated pc to record a few shows a week |
| 20:20 | <bitbyte> | i had thought i'd be able to use the pcHDTV card to record both regular and hd content |
| 20:21 | <bline> | you can have two cards, though I have no idea if one of them can be hdtv |
| 20:21 | <bitbyte> | so i'm having to rethink my entire approach |
| 20:21 | <bitbyte> | from what i read, myth cant do both formats at once |
| 20:22 | <bitbyte> | it's either or |
| 20:22 | <bline> | submit a patch |
| 20:22 | <bitbyte> | plus issues with drivers and both types of cards |
| 20:22 | <bitbyte> | bline, i already said i'm not a coder, nor am i here griping |
| 20:23 | <bline> | i didn't say you were griping... |
| 20:23 | <bitbyte> | i know, jusst making sure you dont think i'm in here griping about something i dont have ot pay for, i hate ppl like that |
| 20:23 | <bitbyte> | they feel it's some sort fo entitlement |
| 20:24 | <josephk> | well you're entitled to your opinion:D |
| 20:24 | <bitbyte> | true, but i stand to gain nothing by pissing these guys off |
| 20:24 | <bitbyte> | i really want to use myth |
| 20:25 | <bitbyte> | its exactly what ive been lookin for |
| 20:25 | <bitbyte> | i presently own 2 replays |
| 20:25 | <bitbyte> | and owned tivo and utv previously |
| 20:25 | <bline> | how are they |
| 20:26 | <josephk> | well when you say you can't use both at the same time...do you mean that you have to setup your card to use hdtv or analog? |
| 20:26 | <josephk> | if that's the case any reason not setup the card twice? |
| 20:26 | <josephk> | and use two different channel sources? |
| 20:27 | <josephk> | sounds like a recipe for distaster as I say it, but hey:D |
| 20:28 | <schwin97> | Hello everyone... watching survivor with mythtv - commercial break |
| 20:28 | <schwin97> | I would have thought the two cards could be setup totally separately? |
| 20:29 | <bitbyte> | thats what i read, myth can only do hdtv or umm acs? i cant remeber the other format |
| 20:29 | <bitbyte> | basically regular tv signal or hd |
| 20:29 | <bitbyte> | when you configure it you have to pick |
| 20:29 | <schwin97> | well, I haven't worried about the 200 on pchdtv since I just got a projector |
| 20:29 | <thor_> | bitbyte, you can always use two cards, or two backends (they network together very easily) |
| 20:29 | <bitbyte> | if i could have a normal tv card and a hd one in the machine, thatd be fine |
| 20:30 | <bitbyte> | thor, i tohught about the backend thing, isnt cost effective to have a pc sitting there to only record a few shows on hd |
| 20:30 | <bitbyte> | but i had thought about that already |
| 20:30 | <thor_> | stick a card in a file server ? |
| 20:30 | <thor_> | or just use two cards in one box, that would also work |
| 20:31 | <bitbyte> | 2 hd? or 1 hd and say a hauppage? |
| 20:31 | <josephk> | use 4 cards...that'll work too:) |
| 20:31 | <josephk> | sure |
| 20:31 | <josephk> | why not |
| 20:31 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 20:31 | <bline> | didn't i mention two cards? |
| 20:32 | <bitbyte> | bline,, yes, i read in the mailing list you couldnt do that |
| 20:32 | <bitbyte> | that why im here asking |
| 20:32 | <bitbyte> | it was all quite vague |
| 20:32 | <bline> | not a lot of people use hdtv |
| 20:32 | <bitbyte> | so 2 cards, great, thats what i wnated anyhow, do they have ot be 2 of the same cards? |
| 20:32 | <thor_> | pcHDTV card support is still a bit alpha, but I don't see why it wouldn't work |
| 20:33 | <bitbyte> | i know, its rather new |
| 20:33 | <thor_> | no, mix and match |
| 20:33 | <bitbyte> | aha! |
| 20:33 | <bitbyte> | very good |
| 20:33 | <bitbyte> | i searced the archives all day and didnt find that out |
| 20:33 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 20:33 | <bitbyte> | brb |
| 20:33 | <bline> | thinking about getting a 350 to go with my 250 |
| 20:33 | <schwin97> | that is what I thought the beauty of mythtv architecture was... |
| 20:34 | <schwin97> | I think the next purchase will be a 250 or 350 |
| 20:34 | <bline> | multicard support wasn't too great until a couple months ago |
| 20:34 | <schwin97> | right now I'm using a stinking aiw TV VE |
| 20:34 | <josephk> | wait until tmk gets the driver to reload itself while running |
| 20:34 | <bline> | i'll help if i get one |
| 20:35 | <josephk> | well you can't have mine:) |
| 20:35 | <josephk> | hehe |
| 20:35 | <josephk> | looks damn good when it works though |
| 20:35 | <josephk> | no way to really tell the difference between live and recorded |
| 20:35 | <schwin97> | what looks good? pchdtv? |
| 20:35 | <josephk> | 350 tv out |
| 20:36 | <josephk> | nothing comes close |
| 20:36 | <schwin97> | tv out... forget that - I'm running my computer through a projector |
| 20:36 | <bline> | i'd miss the visulazations of mythmusic |
| 20:36 | <schwin97> | nothing quite like watching movies on an 80 inch wide screen |
| 20:36 | <bitbyte> | the hauppage 350? |
| 20:36 | <bline> | yeah |
| 20:36 | <bitbyte> | ok |
| 20:36 | <bitbyte> | thats the oen i wa sleaning towards |
| 20:36 | <josephk> | well schwin then get the 250 or the Avermedia M179 |
| 20:36 | <josephk> | cheaper |
| 20:37 | <thor_> | (less expensive) |
| 20:37 | <bitbyte> | doesnt the 250 use software ecoding? |
| 20:37 | <bitbyte> | decoding |
| 20:37 | <josephk> | the 250 doesn't do anything but encode |
| 20:37 | <josephk> | so your machine needs to do the decoding |
| 20:37 | <bline> | I wonder if the visulazations would work on the 350 |
| 20:37 | <bitbyte> | 250 haws a hardware mepg2 decoder doesnt it? |
| 20:37 | <bline> | if so, how slow it would be |
| 20:37 | <bitbyte> | umm |
| 20:37 | <bitbyte> | \350 |
| 20:37 | <bitbyte> | not 250 |
| 20:37 | <schwin97> | thanks for the tip josephk |
| 20:37 | <bline> | yeah |
| 20:37 | <josephk> | 350 has a hardware decoder...but only through tv out |
| 20:38 | <bline> | josephk: you know? |
| 20:38 | <bitbyte> | oh |
| 20:38 | <bitbyte> | hmm |
| 20:38 | <schwin97> | immunity challenge... back later |
| 20:38 | <josephk> | at the moment at least |
| 20:38 | <bitbyte> | i had hoped to do component outs from a vga converter |
| 20:38 | <josephk> | just s-video and composite |
| 20:38 | <bitbyte> | so id gain noting with the 350 |
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| 20:38 | <bitbyte> | joeph, im going to do hd, be silly to use svideo |
| 20:39 | <josephk> | yup |
| 20:39 | <bitbyte> | ok |
| 20:39 | <bitbyte> | so the game is back on |
| 20:39 | <bitbyte> | cool |
| 20:39 | <bitbyte> | i also read the pchdtv card work and play wel with others |
| 20:40 | <bitbyte> | hopefully it and the other card wont have issues |
| 20:40 | <josephk> | bline: I haven't tried mythmusic with the 350 |
| 20:40 | <bitbyte> | i thought i had read something about the bttv driver or something |
| 20:40 | <thor_> | the visualizers use SDL |
| 20:40 | <bline> | no doubt software rendering is slow |
| 20:40 | <thor_> | well, the good ones |
| 20:41 | <thor_> | which may have problems under 350 framebuffer stuff .... I dunno |
| 20:41 | <bitbyte> | bline thor... josephk, thx for the info. mind if i idle in here? |
| 20:41 | <bline> | it isn't called _free_node for nothing |
| 20:41 | <bitbyte> | heh |
| 20:41 | <bitbyte> | some places dont like you idling in channel |
| 20:41 | <bitbyte> | i'll leave my bnc in here then |
| 20:41 | <bitbyte> | :P |
| 20:41 | <bitbyte> | bbiab |
| 20:41 | <bitbyte> | time ot put kids to bed |
| 20:44 | <josephk> | damnit...what does this look like? A kids support channel! |
| 20:44 | <thor_> | heh |
| 20:44 | <schwin97> | giggle |
| 20:45 | <schwin97> | so what do you all do in the real world? all developers? |
| 20:45 | <josephk> | *girgle* *girgle* |
| 20:45 | <josephk> | I'm a curmudgeon |
| 20:45 | <thor_> | I beat baby seals to death |
| 20:45 | <josephk> | by trade |
| 20:46 | <schwin97> | curmudgeon - must be a grad student |
| 20:46 | <josephk> | I wish |
| 20:47 | <schwin97> | I only want to go back to school if I can get back on the parents payroll |
| 20:47 | <josephk> | that goes without saying |
| 20:49 | <schwin97> | so how did you get started with mythtv??? What did you patch? |
| 20:50 | <thor_> | scratch an itch ... |
| 20:51 | <schwin97> | what itched? |
| 20:51 | <thor_> | ah, music playlists I think |
| 20:51 | <schwin97> | haven't done much with the playlists |
| 20:52 | <schwin97> | don't have much music on the computer yet... also need another hard drive |
| 20:52 | <bitbyte> | one more question, can myth pause live tv when using the pcHDTV card? or only record for playback later? |
| 20:53 | <thor_> | bitbyte, don't actually have one, but given what I understand of how the driver works, you should definitely be able to pause |
| 20:53 | <bitbyte> | that seems to be a limitation of all the windows based hdtv cards |
| 20:54 | <bitbyte> | they can record, byt not do tiemshifting |
| 20:54 | <bitbyte> | ok thor, thanks man |
| 20:54 | <bitbyte> | i'm thinkin it's gonna take a lotta machine to make those 2 cards go |
| 20:54 | <bitbyte> | and be able to record and playback live content at the same time |
| 20:55 | <thor_> | PVR-250/350 put almost 0 cpu load on encoding |
| 20:55 | <bitbyte> | ya, but playback... |
| 20:55 | <bitbyte> | i know the hd is only io to disk for encoding |
| 20:55 | <bitbyte> | but it takes 1.8 ghz to be able to playback |
| 20:55 | <bitbyte> | according to what ive read |
| 20:56 | <bitbyte> | whiich thus far hasnt been entierly correct, hehe |
| 20:56 | <bline> | 350 does the decoding also |
| 20:56 | <bitbyte> | bline, but only to the tv outs tho right? |
| 20:56 | <schwin97> | I would agree with the 1.8 for playback... lots of info in the hdtv signal |
| 20:56 | <bitbyte> | i want to do component outs |
| 20:56 | <josephk> | at the moment |
| 20:57 | <josephk> | unless you can write support for reading directly from the card's memory:) |
| 20:57 | <schwin97> | now that would put you in the good graces probably |
| 20:57 | <thor_> | something close to 1.8 for full HDTV res sounds about right, but that's hardly extreme hw these days |
| 20:58 | <bitbyte> | thor, agreed, but thats only enough for just the hdtv pice, still lots of other stuff it'll need to do |
| 20:58 | <schwin97> | see ya all around... time to go the gym |
| 20:59 | <bitbyte> | bye |
| 21:00 | <bitbyte> | id like ot be able to record from one card and possibly a second while watching something i recorded earlier, like i could with my utv |
| 21:00 | <thor_> | yup |
| 21:00 | <thor_> | 250's on regular tv, as many as you want |
| 21:00 | <bitbyte> | the netowrking and additional features are the real kicker |
| 21:01 | <bitbyte> | the weathe rmdule etc |
| 21:01 | <bitbyte> | weather module |
| 21:01 | <bitbyte> | thats what sold my wife on the whole thing |
| 21:01 | <thor_> | pcHDTV spooling to the drive is not going to suck a lot of CPU |
| 21:01 | <bitbyte> | ya i know, the stream is mpeg2 already |
| 21:01 | <bitbyte> | mostly io |
| 21:01 | <thor_> | so, you're still just playing one stream at a time |
| 21:01 | <bitbyte> | true |
| 21:01 | <bitbyte> | good point |
| 21:02 | <bitbyte> | but if i'm playin back hd, would all the diskio cause problems with the other card recording? |
| 21:02 | <bitbyte> | or should i put hd on a diff disk? |
| 21:03 | <thor_> | can't speak from experience .... but never had a problem with multiple bt8x8's and/or 250s |
| 21:04 | <bitbyte> | ko |
| 21:04 | <bitbyte> | i'm thinkin mini itx thin client in the bedroom, anyone doing wireless to a thin client? |
| 21:04 | <bitbyte> | ohehe |
| 21:05 | <bitbyte> | i havent search the archives about that yet |
| 21:05 | <bitbyte> | just thought of the wireless thing now |
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| 21:05 | <thor_> | someone mentioned flawless 802.11g performance a week or so ago with a particular adapter ... |
| 21:06 | <bitbyte> | in the mailing list? |
| 21:06 | <thor_> | yup |
| 21:06 | <bitbyte> | 11g is what i was tihnking too |
| 21:06 | <bitbyte> | ok i'll search there |
| 21:06 | <bitbyte> | thx again |
| 21:06 | <thor_> | k |
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| 22:11 | <bitbyte> | chip, 11g? |
| 22:17 | <josephk> | ummm...wtf...I really hope I don't have to specify a separate source to record 2 simultaneous programs |
| 22:20 | <bitbyte> | hm? |
| 22:20 | <josephk> | I have two cards but myth is still saying I have a conflict when I'm only recording 2 shows |
| 22:20 | <bitbyte> | joseph, does myth have the ability to control a dvd player if i put a drive in my machine? |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | ah |
| 22:21 | <josephk> | control? |
| 22:21 | <josephk> | there is mythdvd |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | yes |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | ah ok |
| 22:21 | <josephk> | it will play and rip dvd's |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | i didnt see that in he screenshots |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | i saw the rip part |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | ok, cool thx |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | i was just searching the archives when you showed up |
| 22:21 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 22:22 | <bitbyte> | do you use tv out from your tv card? |
| 22:22 | <josephk> | yes |
| 22:22 | <josephk> | pvr 350 and a 250 |
| 22:22 | <bitbyte> | 250 has a remote? |
| 22:23 | <dopez> | my 250 has a remote |
| 22:24 | <dopez> | (and even one of my 250's has a fm tuner on it) |
| 22:24 | <bitbyte> | i think i've seen that |
| 22:24 | <bitbyte> | so whats the 350 get you other than the hardware decoder? |
| 22:24 | <dopez> | a tv-out plug ;) |
| 22:25 | <bitbyte> | ah |
| 22:25 | <bitbyte> | but if i use component outs from my vgs that doesnt do me any good, ok |
| 22:25 | <dopez> | just a guess tho, i only have 2 250's |
| 22:25 | <bitbyte> | ah ok |
| 22:26 | <dopez> | i dont even have a tv that i'd want to use :) |
| 22:27 | <bitbyte> | what sources do you use? cable? satellite? |
| 22:27 | <bitbyte> | ota? |
| 22:27 | <dopez> | cable |
| 22:28 | <dopez> | (analog) |
| 22:28 | <bitbyte> | via a cable box? or you let your card do the channel switching? |
| 22:28 | <josephk> | dopez...you using 1 source correct? |
| 22:28 | <dopez> | the cards does the tuning |
| 22:28 | <josephk> | and simultaneous records turn out alright...right? |
| 22:28 | <dopez> | 1 source? (2 cards if that's what you mean) |
| 22:29 | <josephk> | I mean 1 cable source specified for both cards |
| 22:29 | <dopez> | josephk: indeed |
| 22:29 | <josephk> | gah...It's using both cards but won't record both shows...lol |
| 22:29 | <bitbyte> | heh |
| 22:30 | <dopez> | also recording doesnt have any problems except for 'tinny' audio and video corruption sometimes |
| 22:30 | <bitbyte> | yea verily, i say unto thee, that sucketh |
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| 22:30 | <josephk> | I see the output stating it's recording...and then blah |
| 22:30 | <josephk> | haha |
| 22:31 | <dopez> | just wondering, since most of europe should be sleeping now, does anyone in NTSC land with a pvr-250/350 have that tinny audio? |
| 22:31 | <josephk> | I have experienced it |
| 22:32 | <josephk> | but I haven't tried as much recording since setting audio to static |
| 22:32 | <josephk> | I would if I could record 2 at once:D |
| 22:33 | <dopez> | hehe, no idea why it wouldnt work with 2 cards recording, i did have some trouble with 2 different tv grabbers |
| 22:33 | <dopez> | (but only because of the timezones) |
| 22:33 | <josephk> | ok time to dump the db |
| 22:33 | <josephk> | again |
| 22:33 | <josephk> | lol |
| 22:33 | <dopez> | hehe |
| 22:34 | <dopez> | might want to tar up your channel.* :) |
| 22:35 | <bitbyte> | why, is it leaking? |
| 22:35 | <bitbyte> | :P |
| 22:35 | <dopez> | hehe |
| 22:36 | <dopez> | nice when things in another language means something else =) |
| 22:36 | <bitbyte> | what other languages do you speak? |
| 22:36 | <dopez> | i |
| 22:36 | <dopez> | dutch |
| 22:36 | <bitbyte> | heh |
| 22:36 | <bitbyte> | mijn vrouw komt van nederland uit |
| 22:37 | <dopez> | strange language eh? :) |
| 22:37 | <bitbyte> | not too bad |
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| 22:37 | <bitbyte> | i speak it fairly well |
| 22:37 | <bitbyte> | self-defense you know |
| 22:37 | <thor_> | best thing about dutch is that the dutch all speak 3 or 4 other languages ;-) |
| 22:37 | <dopez> | i think i do also, but i find english to be easier most of the time |
| 22:38 | <bitbyte> | even moreso withthe belgians |
| 22:38 | <dopez> | thor_: indeed :) |
| 22:38 | <bitbyte> | we went on our honeymoon in brugge, most everyone there spoke at least 5 languages |
| 22:38 | <josephk> | belgians are just so damn evil |
| 22:38 | <bitbyte> | indeed |
| 22:38 | <thor_> | hmmmm .... chocolate |
| 22:38 | <bitbyte> | the polacks of western europe |
| 22:39 | <bitbyte> | stop thor, yer makin me hungry |
| 22:39 | <dopez> | belgian beer is nice :) |
| 22:39 | <bitbyte> | oh yes, i love a nice triple |
| 22:39 | <bitbyte> | lllllekkerrrrrrrr |
| 22:40 | <dopez> | and palm ;) |
| 22:40 | <bitbyte> | so who all is in NL? is chutt a dutchie? |
| 22:40 | <dopez> | cutt is in the US afik |
| 22:40 | <dopez> | afaik |
| 22:40 | <bitbyte> | ah |
| 22:40 | <bitbyte> | and you thor? |
| 22:41 | <bitbyte> | I'm in North Dakota in the US |
| 22:41 | <josephk> | well thats a first |
| 22:41 | <josephk> | someone living in ND |
| 22:41 | <bitbyte> | eh? |
| 22:41 | <bitbyte> | HAH |
| 22:41 | <bitbyte> | here's the kicker, i moved here on purpose |
| 22:41 | <bitbyte> | so there |
| 22:42 | <dopez> | heh |
| 22:42 | <bitbyte> | no crime, no pollution |
| 22:42 | <bitbyte> | no traffic |
| 22:42 | <josephk> | no people |
| 22:42 | <josephk> | sounds great |
| 22:42 | <bitbyte> | ppl are nice |
| 22:42 | <bitbyte> | nahh |
| 22:42 | <bitbyte> | theres pppl here, just not gobs of them |
| 22:42 | <josephk> | so how fast are string and cans? 300 baud? |
| 22:42 | <bitbyte> | cable baby |
| 22:43 | <dopez> | nice ppl, wow, i guess i should move over there :) |
| 22:43 | <bitbyte> | we even have wireless t1 to homes |
| 22:43 | <bitbyte> | dopez, my inlaws come over here form NL and love it |
| 22:43 | <josephk> | ah ok...so you cut into the cable going through the wilderness |
| 22:43 | <bitbyte> | i live in the capitol, se we have lots of amenities you wouldnt otherwise see in a city of 65k |
| 22:44 | <bitbyte> | heh, no |
| 22:44 | <dopez> | hm, for anything faster than t1 i'd move (i allready have 1mbit at the moment so not worth moving at the moment) |
| 22:44 | <bitbyte> | i actually work for a company that owns the largest isp in the state |
| 22:44 | <bitbyte> | whats that cost you a month dopez? |
| 22:44 | <bitbyte> | i'm trying to get my father in law to get a real internet connection |
| 22:44 | <dopez> | 50 euro (about the same in $) |
| 22:44 | <dopez> | but i could get 8mbit down/1mbit up for 65 a month |
| 22:45 | <bitbyte> | 10% more usually |
| 22:45 | <bitbyte> | thats not TOO bad |
| 22:45 | <bitbyte> | considerably more than I pay |
| 22:45 | <bitbyte> | i pay 29 a month |
| 22:45 | <bitbyte> | us$ |
| 22:45 | <dopez> | (but then i'd have to use dialup for 2 months) |
| 22:45 | <josephk> | same here |
| 22:45 | <josephk> | 1.5/128 |
| 22:45 | <josephk> | blergh |
| 22:45 | <josephk> | 128 is a pitiful upload |
| 22:45 | <dopez> | i have 256 up at the moment, but hardly using it |
| 22:46 | <bitbyte> | jospeh, ya, i'm capped at 128 upstream too |
| 22:46 | <bitbyte> | man 1meg up for only 65? thats a bargain |
| 22:46 | <josephk> | I do get 132...lol |
| 22:46 | <josephk> | speed demon |
| 22:46 | <bitbyte> | my isp wants another 20 a month to give me a whopping 256 up, HAH... not |
| 22:46 | <dopez> | (they sell it as 320kbit up , bit adsl through a pptp tunnel leaves only 256kbit orso) |
| 22:46 | <dopez> | bit/but |
| 22:46 | <josephk> | 320kbuts |
| 22:46 | <bitbyte> | hey dont call me bit/butt |
| 22:47 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 22:47 | <dopez> | heh |
| 22:47 | <josephk> | thats some pretty good but |
| 22:47 | <bitbyte> | you stop lookin at the but |
| 22:47 | <dopez> | i wouldnt dare |
| 22:48 | <bitbyte> | well |
| 22:49 | <bitbyte> | im going to go do some other stuff, great talking to you all |
| 22:49 | <josephk> | go get some good upload in buts |
| 22:49 | <josephk> | lol |
| 22:49 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 22:49 | <bitbyte> | i'm gonna go play some "Halo" |
| 22:49 | <bitbyte> | then watch a movie |
| 22:49 | <josephk> | maybe massachussetts |
| 22:49 | <bitbyte> | where in the US are you joseph? |
| 22:50 | <josephk> | ny |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | oh man |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | you'd neve rmake it here |
| 22:50 | <josephk> | I kill for pleasure...lol |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | your brain isn't used to this much oxygen |
| 22:50 | <josephk> | ummm, yeah ok |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | you'd pass out |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | i commute 2.1 miles to work |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | 6 minutes on a bad day |
| 22:50 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 22:50 | <josephk> | I swear everyone thinks the state is like nyc |
| 22:51 | <josephk> | a huge state of skyscrapers |
| 22:51 | <josephk> | lol |
| 22:51 | <bitbyte> | my bad, i thought you meant the city |
| 22:51 | <josephk> | nah |
| 22:51 | <bitbyte> | anyhow |
| 22:51 | <bitbyte> | bbl |
| 22:51 | <josephk> | k |
| 22:51 | <bitbyte> | doeie! |
| 22:52 | <dopez> | cya! |
| 22:52 | <josephk> | who here lives in ca?...now thats a scary state:D |
| 22:53 | | * dopez never understands the 2 letter verbs for states :) |
| 22:53 | <josephk> | cali-forniaiaia |
| 22:54 | <dopez> | i should have know that |
| 22:54 | <dopez> | known |
| 22:54 | <dopez> | bah, i shouldn't drink and irc.. |
| 22:54 | <josephk> | I'm sure I've forgotten some states |
| 22:54 | <dopez> | can hardly type |
| 22:55 | <josephk> | like Rhode Island |
| 22:55 | <josephk> | I hear its 3 miles squar |
| 22:55 | <josephk> | e |
| 22:55 | <dopez> | heh, thats not much :) |
| 22:57 | <josephk> | ok...so one recording and video0 is in use |
| 22:57 | <josephk> | let's see what happens with the second |
| 22:57 | <josephk> | now 2 conflict |
| 22:58 | <josephk> | lol |
| 22:58 | <josephk> | both in use |
| 22:58 | <josephk> | neither recording...haha |
| 22:58 | <dopez> | i get 3 or 4 conficts, but no trouble recording |
| 22:58 | <josephk> | classic |
| 22:58 | <josephk> | use mythweb or no? |
| 22:59 | <dopez> | odd indeed since it's only 2 recordings at the same time |
| 22:59 | <dopez> | only mythtv |
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| 23:06 | <josephk> | I think its working now |
| 23:07 | <josephk> | just hope they last longer than 3 minutes |
| 23:07 | <josephk> | hehe |
| 23:09 | <josephk> | at first I was getting deactivations...then conflicts |
| 23:09 | <josephk> | I'll take the conflicts:D |
| 23:11 | <dopez> | hehe, conflicts are easier to resolve :) |
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| 23:13 | <pmowry> | Hi, has anyone had any issues with missed scheduled recordings with current cvs? |
| 23:13 | <dopez> | never had that, using cvs of a few (5) days ago |
| 23:14 | <pmowry> | ok, Ihad somrthing scheduled for 8pm. It last recorded at 11PM the previous night. |
| 23:14 | <pmowry> | At 8:20 recording still had not started. |
| 23:15 | <pmowry> | So I killed the backend and restarted. started recording emmidiately, |
| 23:16 | <pmowry> | But before I killed the backend I played back a recording fine, just to make sure the backend was not locked up. |
| 23:16 | <pmowry> | I'll keep an eye on it. It should record the same shows again tonight and tomorrow. |
| 23:17 | <dopez> | you might want to try with a manual record 2 minutes from now, so you dont miss anything you really want to see :) |
| 23:19 | <pmowry> | good suggestion, I'll schedule two short programs between now and then. |
| 23:20 | <pmowry> | And I'll recreate the recurring programs just in case its corrupted |
| 23:23 | <pmowry> | hmm, how about proglems with xmltv in the US? |
| 23:24 | <dopez> | no idea :) |
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| 23:25 | <D-side> | morning |
| 23:25 | <josephk> | where? |
| 23:26 | <dopez> | 5:26am here, so i guess here too |
| 23:26 | <D-side> | somewhere, surely. |
| 23:26 | <josephk> | 11:26 here |
| 23:26 | <josephk> | PM |
| 23:26 | <D-side> | i just booted sid off a 340mb microdrive, and now i'm considering the purchase of a mini-itx nehemiah board. |
| 23:27 | <D-side> | i'm wondering how much recompiling of certain things (like X) is necessary |
| 23:27 | <D-side> | josephk: east coast? |
| 23:27 | <D-side> | apparently. |
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| 23:53 | <pmowry> | apt-get install xmltv to upgrade it fixed my listing problem. |
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