| --- | Log | opened Wed Nov 26 00:00:04 2003 |
| 00:01 | <robbie_> | hehe, just dropped in my dads myth box, had to up all font sizes under 20 by 10 |
| 00:01 | <robbie_> | in the ui.xml files |
| 00:01 | <robbie_> | actualy looks quite a bit better this way |
| 00:02 | <dopez> | hehe |
| 00:11 | <robbie_> | crikey, thats a gazillion times better |
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| 00:24 | <ChaosExiguum> | what dpi settting were you using in X? |
| 00:25 | <ChaosExiguum> | I found starting X with 'startx -- -dpi 100' fixed my fonts up nice and readable |
| 00:26 | <robbie_> | hmm |
| 00:26 | <robbie_> | leme look |
| 00:27 | <robbie_> | well my xserverrc has dpi set to 75 |
| 00:27 | <robbie_> | oops |
| 00:27 | <robbie_> | 100 |
| 00:29 | <robbie_> | hmm good point, i copied xserverrc to ~ and its nice |
| 00:39 | <Octane> | any recommendation for partitions? |
| 00:39 | <robbie_> | yes, a big lvm |
| 00:39 | <robbie_> | so you can make it bigger |
| 00:39 | <robbie_> | and xfs |
| 00:40 | <robbie_> | ChaosExiguum: you know if 120dpi fints are available ? |
| 00:40 | <Octane> | should i have a seperate partition for cache? |
| 00:42 | <robbie_> | aha, so i just specify 120 and it calculates, nice |
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| 01:02 | <rcam> | Hi |
| 01:03 | <pmowry> | I'm practically useless here, but I'll say Hi anyway =) |
| 01:08 | <dopez> | well, i can say hi too ;) |
| 01:23 | <rcam> | hey dopez :) |
| 01:23 | <dopez> | heya ;) |
| 01:24 | <rcam> | So my MythTV install got screwed. |
| 01:24 | <rcam> | Apt-get = bad |
| 01:25 | <rcam> | Apt-get upgrade broke my Mysql database. |
| 01:25 | <rcam> | I have no idea why. |
| 01:26 | <dopez> | apt-get was never bad for me ;) |
| 01:26 | <rcam> | I love APT-get.. I wish I knew what happened. |
| 01:26 | <rcam> | O well... Time to reinstall. |
| 01:28 | <dopez> | sometimes it happens with debian sid tho |
| 01:28 | <rcam> | sid> |
| 01:28 | <rcam> | ? |
| 01:28 | <rcam> | I use KnopMyth |
| 01:28 | <rcam> | Which is debian. |
| 01:29 | <dopez> | not sure |
| 01:33 | <rcam> | dopez Do you use WineX? |
| 01:34 | <dopez> | yep |
| 01:35 | <dopez> | why? |
| 01:45 | <pmowry> | hmm, anyone try to compile current CVS for mythtv? mythdialogs.cpp dies for me. |
| 01:46 | <DogBoy> | rcam, apt-get upgrade is a bad idea on knoppix |
| 01:46 | <rcam> | O. |
| 01:48 | <dopez> | pmowry: compiling at the moment, no errors yet. |
| 01:49 | <pmowry> | dopez: its in the native lirc code. |
| 01:50 | <pmowry> | mythdialogs.cpp:339: `ignore_lirc_keys' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 01:51 | <pmowry> | ignore_lirc_keys is defined in another function, I have not found a typo in a header file or anything yet. |
| 01:54 | <pmowry> | Sorry, its defined in class MythMainWindowPrivate |
| 01:54 | <pmowry> | so I think "else if (ce->type() == kLircKeycodeEventType && !ignore_lirc_keys)" should be |
| 01:54 | <pmowry> | else if (ce->type() == kLircKeycodeEventType && !d->ignore_lirc_keys) |
| 01:57 | <dopez> | i got the same compile error here |
| 01:58 | <pmowry> | It's referenced again later without a class pointer. I dont know enough about it to usefully hack at it. |
| 01:58 | <dopez> | but im very close to pass out tho, so i doubt i'll see it compile today :) |
| 01:58 | <dopez> | same here |
| 02:05 | <pmowry> | I'll look at it a bit. I'll leave a message on the -dev mailing list as well. |
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| 04:03 | <hadees> | anyone know of a program that edits divx files on linux? |
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| 05:11 | <Octane> | i cant use alsa. im tring to use oss. it works with original kernel on my box but it doesnt with the atrpm custom kernel. anyone know how to get it working? |
| 05:39 | <knight-> | heh |
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| 07:09 | <Octane> | anyone here? i cant get alsa working nor can i get oss working in atrpms |
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| 08:00 | <rcam> | hI |
| 08:00 | <rcam> | Octane I am here. |
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| 08:12 | <Octane> | hiya :) |
| 08:12 | <Octane> | im just gonna try mythtv with kernel sound options |
| 08:13 | <Octane> | i tried to get alsa and oss working for 4 hours |
| 08:13 | <Octane> | but to no avail |
| 08:13 | <Octane> | and i have a creative sb live |
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| 10:00 | <rcam> | Hello. |
| 10:01 | <rcam> | Whats the command to populate the tv guide? |
| 10:01 | <rcam> | mythchanneldatabase or something? |
| 10:17 | <thor_> | mythfilldatabase |
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| 10:21 | <knight-> | development seems to have slowed down for the holidays :) |
| 10:22 | <knight-> | must not be cold enough to keep everyone indoors coding |
| 10:22 | <knight-> | :P |
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| 12:39 | <mchou> | hi choenig, I need some clarification about wol usage with your sdwu patch.... |
| 12:40 | <mchou> | finally got around to swapping my mobo out with one that supports wol properly:).... |
| 12:42 | <mchou> | choenig, you there?? |
| 12:49 | <nulltank> | Octane: alsa is harder for me to get working, but oss works fine for me by just adding sound card support and the sblive (emu10k1) module (or built in if you prefer) |
| 12:50 | <nulltank> | right now i have alsa working (with about 15 modules), but i can't change the volume |
| 12:50 | <nulltank> | i think i'm going to go back to oss |
| 12:50 | <nulltank> | Octane: i'm using gentoo BTW |
| 12:54 | <choenig> | hi mchou |
| 13:05 | <mchou> | sorry, choenig, otherwise preoccupied..... |
| 13:05 | <mchou> | anyhow, I'm confused about the wol setup, having used rtc alarm before..... |
| 13:05 | <choenig> | what confuses you? |
| 13:07 | <mchou> | I'd like a separate server issue ether-wake. But I'm confused about nc. you need nc on wol server and MBE, correct? |
| 13:07 | <choenig> | nope, only on the mythbackend |
| 13:07 | <choenig> | but you need (x)inetd and a little script on the waking machine |
| 13:09 | <mchou> | well, there's the confusion. how does the wol server "know" the wakeup time? MBE pipes the wakeup data via nc to wol server, no? |
| 13:09 | <choenig> | right |
| 13:09 | <mchou> | so nc -l -p is not needed on wol server? |
| 13:10 | <choenig> | and (x)inetd starts the little script which gets the wakeuptime using read |
| 13:10 | <mchou> | ahh, gotcha.... |
| 13:11 | <mchou> | ok, thanks, I think I understand now. |
| 13:12 | <choenig> | no problem :) |
| 13:13 | <mchou> | so I assume that sdwu still doesn't work for the case of multiple frontends? Sure would make life easier if this patch is part of base code. :( |
| 13:13 | <choenig> | multiple FEs? what do you mean? |
| 13:15 | <mchou> | well, I forget what exactly the prob. was, but Chutt mentioned something to this effect, and hasn't made this patch part of the baseline code. I might be mistaken about the exact problem.... |
| 13:15 | <choenig> | I'd like to see that in cvs, too, but I don't think that ever gets there, maybe somebody else gives Isaac something better then my stuff :-) |
| 13:15 | <mchou> | well, that's the thing. I'm trying to understand what exactly the issue is, maybe try to fix it or something :)..... |
| 13:15 | <choenig> | there was a problem with multiple BEs that is fixed now. I don't know of an issue with multiple FEs |
| 13:16 | <mchou> | so the patch on the mythtv mailing list is latest and greatest? |
| 13:17 | <choenig> | the one posted the other day, yes |
| 13:17 | <mchou> | ok, good. Thanks for all the hard work.... |
| 13:18 | <choenig> | the problem is, I only look into that patch thing when anybody mentions that Idea (again) on -dev, so I don't give it much time lately |
| 13:18 | <choenig> | I hope there is nothing bad in the latest patch that should not be there :-) |
| 13:19 | <mchou> | well, hence the reason why I'd like to see it in cvs. If multiple BE prob is fixed, that should overcome chutt's objections, no? |
| 13:19 | <mchou> | I'm going to test it :) |
| 13:20 | <choenig> | I think he knows that the multiple BE prob is solved |
| 13:20 | <choenig> | I'd like to write some additional doc for that patch, but I don't like to invest much time for documentation if nobode ever will read it |
| 13:20 | <mchou> | well, its only been a few days. Maybe chutt hasn't got around to it or something. |
| 13:21 | <choenig> | this is almost the same patch like from 2 or 3 month ago where we talked about that little problem which is left |
| 13:21 | <mchou> | choenig, I read them (despite my stupid questions earlier) :) |
| 13:21 | <choenig> | this problem still is there, but this is a really minor thing |
| 13:22 | <choenig> | mchou, yes, but I can explain that thing to you, if only you'd read it ;) |
| 13:23 | <mchou> | I just missed the "read" instruction part (in xinetd) :) |
| 13:24 | <choenig> | I don't have a problem with people asking :) |
| 13:24 | <mchou> | so chutt hasn't given you any feedback on the latest patch? |
| 13:25 | <choenig> | nope, not really |
| 13:26 | <choenig> | when we talked about it the last time (you were there, too) he (and you) only said, that this "backendIsFrontend" problem should be really easy to solve, thats all |
| 13:26 | <choenig> | I don't know how to solve it, that somehow were my last words back then |
| 13:27 | <choenig> | but, fixed or not, this really is a minor thing, that patch works pretty fine without that, too |
| 13:27 | <mchou> | well, last time he mentioned writing a function to find out FE==BE, but didn't go into any details..... |
| 13:28 | <choenig> | right |
| 13:29 | <mchou> | yeah, I'd like to really understand his objections here so we can see it as part of cvs. It's been "out there" long enough :) |
| 13:29 | <choenig> | I really _don't_ expect from him to fix my problems, but if it would be a 5 minute thing for him and a many hours thing for me ... see? :) |
| 13:30 | <thor_> | the Chutt works in strange and mysterious ways |
| 13:30 | <choenig> | that patch is over a year old, now :) |
| 13:30 | <mchou> | well, even if chutt can give a few hints, that would be nice.... |
| 13:30 | <choenig> | thor_: :) |
| 13:32 | <Chutt> | easiest thing to do would be to check the db to see if the local host name has any capture cards defined |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | and if that's true, you'd just have to see if the backend was running on that machine |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | ie, try to open a connection to localhost / backend port |
| 13:33 | <choenig> | I'm on my way ... :-) |
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| 13:46 | <_Nero_> | has there been any significant changes in the cvs version for the images plugin?? It would be nice if it were more like the mythmusic, in that you could have photo albums, and select which album you wanted to play.. any plans for that? |
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| 13:57 | <isaac> | usr/include/linux/compiler.h:17: warning: `__attribute_used__' redefined |
| 13:57 | <isaac> | /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h:195: warning: this is the location of the previous definition |
| 13:57 | <isaac> | videoout_ivtv.cpp: In method `VideoOutputIvtv::~VideoOutputIvtv()': |
| 13:57 | <isaac> | videoout_ivtv.cpp:58: parse error before `[' |
| 13:57 | <isaac> | what the hell is the cause of this? :/ |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | you're not using cvs? |
| 13:57 | <isaac> | nope? |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | no, that's the cause of it. |
| 13:57 | <isaac> | oh. |
| 13:58 | <isaac> | heh |
| 13:58 | <isaac> | well, cvs wouldn't link |
| 13:58 | <isaac> | is the release just borked then? |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | no |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | it's because the debian glibc maintainers decided to be idiots and use pre-2.6 kernel headers for the global includes. |
| 14:00 | <isaac> | yeah, i googled a bunch and that's what i kind of concluded. |
| 14:00 | <isaac> | figured i'd ask though |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | blame mdz =) |
| 14:01 | <isaac> | i -am- croaking for a .12 package ;) |
| 14:01 | <isaac> | running 0.11 right now due to not getting 0.12 to compile :( |
| 14:01 | <isaac> | and i moved the backend to a better box so now i can actually watch live tv and such |
| 14:04 | <davatar> | my sound card doesn't use master or pcm, but pcm2 for volume control, is it appropriate to modify mythtv, or is there a workaround through alsa? |
| 14:06 | <thor_> | you can't lock your pcm2 and have master affect it ? |
| 14:06 | <davatar> | no.. pcm2 is for the spdif out only. |
| 14:07 | <thor_> | ah, spdif, why would you want to use internal controls then? |
| 14:07 | <_Nero_> | is there some dep needed to do the transitions in mythgallery? |
| 14:09 | <davatar> | thor_: because otherwise I have to switch remotes, and the volume control is very touchy because the reciever has a lot of power and spdif has a very high dynamic range. |
| 14:09 | <isaac> | what -is- spdif anyways |
| 14:09 | <davatar> | spdif is just a digital link, over which you can send uncompressed audio, or ac3/dts |
| 14:09 | <isaac> | ah |
| 14:09 | <isaac> | neat |
| 14:09 | | * isaac looks at his crappy $5 yardsale amp and cringes |
| 14:11 | <thor_> | well .... I'd still rather have my receiver adjusting spdif output, but you could always add a one liner to the settings code, or do the SQL to change it in your table |
| 14:14 | <isaac> | ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.13.so: undefined reference to `QScrollView::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent *)' |
| 14:14 | <davatar> | hmm.. tried that, didn't work.. even alsamixer cannot control it. When I use the gnome mixer I get a pcm2 output which work fine. |
| 14:14 | <isaac> | Chutt: compiling cvs, when linking i get a billion messages similar to that one |
| 14:15 | <thor_> | isacc, you got wrong version of Qt |
| 14:15 | <thor_> | (probably) |
| 14:15 | <isaac> | well, can anyone else using debian unstable compile cvs? |
| 14:15 | <thor_> | scratch that |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | i develop mythtv with debian unstable. |
| 14:16 | | * chiphead uses deb unstable on xbox |
| 14:16 | <isaac> | well i'll be damned. |
| 14:16 | <isaac> | Chutt: using libqt3c102-mt? |
| 14:17 | <isaac> | er, s/-mt// |
| 14:17 | <mdz> | eh, not my fault |
| 14:17 | <mdz> | Chutt: I went to SCALE last weekend |
| 14:17 | <Chutt> | what's that? |
| 14:17 | <mdz> | southern CA linux expo |
| 14:17 | <mdz> | a ton of people were asking about MythTV |
| 14:17 | <mdz> | one of the LUGs even had a demo set up at their booth |
| 14:17 | <thor_> | cable feed? |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | morph's lug? |
| 14:18 | <mdz> | no input, as far as I saw, but they were playing back recorded stuff and using mythmusic and what not |
| 14:18 | <mdz> | dunno, who is morph? |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | sclug |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | i think it is |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | the guy that did that pvr contest |
| 14:18 | <chiphead> | isaac, I found the dependency packages not easily assembled for building myth from the cvs, so I compiled qt and the other dependencies from source |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | chiphead, err, everything's in debian unstable. |
| 14:19 | <isaac> | chiphead: i avoid doing that for big libs like qt due to bigger deps (like kde) |
| 14:19 | <mdz> | ah, yes. it was SCLUG |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | building qt yourself is dumb. |
| 14:19 | <thor_> | hey! |
| 14:19 | <isaac> | Chutt: i've got qt-mt 3.2.1 |
| 14:20 | <isaac> | .. though i assume you dont care, heh. |
| 14:20 | <mdz> | Chutt: I also hassled the xiph.org guys in person about theora's approach to A/V sync |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:20 | <chiphead> | its was my easist solution... once it was built, I had no problems building myth. call me dumb |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | were they all 'theora? what the hell's that?' |
| 14:20 | <mdz> | naw, ralph giles and monty were both there |
| 14:20 | <mdz> | so was josh coalson from FLAC |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:22 | <mdz> | they are being really idealistic about it for some reason |
| 14:22 | <isaac> | shite. can you build myth with just the backend crap? |
| 14:22 | <Chutt> | every packet needs a timestamp |
| 14:22 | <isaac> | (i think i read about this somewhere on the website, but humour me) |
| 14:22 | <Chutt> | otherwise, you cannot play it back properly |
| 14:23 | <mdz> | I explained that in the real world, frames sometimes get dropped and sound cards aren't synched to video frames, and their clocks suck |
| 14:23 | <mdz> | and they (still) say just to fix it on the encoding side |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | and the playback clock isn't always the same as the recording clock |
| 14:23 | <mdz> | and make it perfect and then encode it |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 14:24 | <mdz> | I don't know how feasible that really is, but it sounds annoying |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | they'll find out that no one will use that for anything real |
| 14:25 | <mdz> | can you actually tell if you've missed a frame, and how many? |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | other than guessing based on the timestamps, no |
| 14:25 | <mdz> | figures |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | what'll actually happen is that the theora stuff in ffmpeg will get fleshed out |
| 14:25 | <mdz> | trying to skew the audio sounds even worse |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | and people will just pack it in other containers =) |
| 14:25 | <mdz> | right |
| 14:25 | <mdz> | the problem is with ogg, not theora |
| 14:26 | <mdz> | ogg-for-A/V anyway |
| 14:28 | <Chutt> | it's ok, until they do some mmx opts, it's not a realtime codec anyway =) |
| 14:31 | <mdz> | that part I think is pretty likely to happen, though |
| 14:31 | <mdz> | whereas fixing ogg for video probably won't, unfortunately |
| 14:31 | <mdz> | like we really needed another half-baked container like an MPEG system stream |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | no one's commented at all on my cool keybindings code :( |
| 14:33 | <mdz> | it would be nice if the cvs commit script attached a patch along with the log message, that makes it easy to see what's going on |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | too much bandwidth |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | i'd agree if there weren't > 500 people on the commits list |
| 14:34 | <thor_> | hey Chutt, that keybinding stuff is really cool |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:37 | <mdz> | it could be gzipped :-) |
| 14:37 | <mdz> | you speak of bandwidth, and I'm on a dialup half the time right now... |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | still |
| 14:38 | <thor_> | it's actually fairly impressive that there are hundreds of people subscribed to commits |
| 14:40 | <davatar> | well it's probably because it's recommended you do if you compile from cvs.. I'd guess that not that many people actually check before they grab cvs.. |
| 14:40 | <mdz> | I'm not surprised, after all the buzz |
| 14:41 | <mdz> | it's one thing to know that a lot of people subscribed to some mailing lists; it's another when people approach you and ask about it :-) |
| 14:41 | <thor_> | you get any of the, "oh you're *that* mdz!" |
| 14:47 | <mdz> | sometimes :-) |
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| 15:03 | <billytwowilly> | wow you guys have some pretty cool fans;) |
| 15:03 | <billytwowilly> | http://www.patrick.fm/boobies/boobies.php?text=mythtv |
| 15:03 | <billytwowilly> | nswf;) |
| 15:03 | <billytwowilly> | err. nsfw. |
| 15:04 | <thor_> | There is more under heaven and earth, dear Horatio |
| 15:08 | <isaac> | you lie |
| 15:08 | <isaac> | pretty hilarious script, that |
| 15:12 | <billytwowilly> | yah;) Classic;) thank those kopete guys;) It's posted in their chan topic, except with kopete instead of mythtv;) |
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| 15:52 | <o_cee> | Chutt: i saw you did keybinding stuff, very cool indeed :) haven't cvs updated yet, but i'm very much looking forward to it |
| 15:54 | <o_cee> | btw, i thought about something the other day.. i've got nmp setup to have my clock synced like all the time (once an hour or something).. could that cause screwups in myth when recording? i mean what happens with the timestamps if the clock is changed? or it's not affected by that clock at all? |
| 15:55 | <thor_> | ntp should gradually speed up or slow down your clock to bring it into sync, not jam it immediately to some new value |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | still working on the keybindings stuff |
| 15:57 | <o_cee> | thor_: ah yeah, maybe that's how it works. just saw that it did it all the time instead of like one update each day |
| 15:57 | <o_cee> | anyone who's good with css/html/js? |
| 15:57 | <o_cee> | got stuck |
| 15:58 | <o_cee> | thor_: you asked me to remind you, now i'm reminding you in case you forgot it. |
| 15:58 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 15:58 | <thor_> | ah yes, date sensitive images .... or something else as well ? |
| 15:59 | <o_cee> | that's it.. and the analog clock ;) |
| 15:59 | <thor_> | k |
| 16:01 | <o_cee> | or |
| 16:01 | <o_cee> | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/lights/59e0/ |
| 16:01 | <o_cee> | a clock like that ;) |
| 16:02 | <thor_> | heh |
| 16:02 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 16:02 | <o_cee> | almost thinking about buying one of those, hehe |
| 16:04 | <o_cee> | Chutt: the example page i emailed you yesterday.. i thought about doing somehing like this for the programme descriptions.. don't you think that could work? http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html (the text that appears below the menu, but instead at the right hand side of the list or something).. btw, are there any other stuff i should do with the page while i'm at it? more info or something? |
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| 16:08 | <Chutt> | sure, that's fine |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | whatever you want to do with the page is fine, really |
| 16:09 | <o_cee> | okay, cool |
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| 16:24 | <Morph> | yo |
| 16:25 | <Morph> | mdz: you were at SCALE, huh? |
| 16:25 | <mdz> | Morph: yes |
| 16:25 | <mdz> | unexpectedly so |
| 16:25 | <Morph> | cool. |
| 16:25 | <Morph> | I was one of the guy whose set it up. |
| 16:25 | <Morph> | SCALE that is. |
| 16:28 | <Morph> | did you like it? |
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| 16:32 | <mdz> | yeah, it was pretty good |
| 16:32 | <mdz> | I didn't go to the talks |
| 16:33 | <Morph> | I didnt either...was busy..heard some were good, others not so good. |
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| 16:48 | <Ku-laid> | Uh..a possibly silly question, but what's with the no-$ icon on the record programs screen? |
| 16:48 | <jimjim> | I got that one, had to look it up too. It means commercials have been flagged. |
| 16:48 | <Ku-laid> | Ah. |
| 16:51 | <DogBoy> | where do you look up those icons? |
| 16:58 | <isaac_> | haha, i just saw an ad for directv bragging about 'sound on every channel' |
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| 17:01 | <sailor420> | would I have any problems running a card that uses a nvidia chipset but is made by a different manufacturer? Would it run off of the same nvidia drivers? |
| 17:03 | <billytwowilly> | sailor420: yah. Works just fine. |
| 17:03 | <billytwowilly> | you're referring to playback right? |
| 17:03 | <billytwowilly> | not tv tuner? |
| 17:03 | <billytwowilly> | although I've never heard of an nvidia tv tuner.. |
| 17:03 | <thor_> | ah, thanks Chutt |
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| 17:08 | <Chutt> | hm? |
| 17:08 | <thor_> | french patches |
| 17:08 | <Ku-laid> | Hmm..seems like the entire issue on why I can't play video at 640x480 is I/O. |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | what'd i do? |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | oh |
| 17:08 | <sailor420> | yeah, playback |
| 17:08 | <sailor420> | sorry |
| 17:08 | <thor_> | I had those flagged |
| 17:08 | <sailor420> | anyone have any experience getting the ati TV Wonder VE running? |
| 17:09 | <sailor420> | especially with KnoppMyth |
| 17:10 | <sailor420> | im debating that card or the Hauppauge WinTV 401 |
| 17:10 | <isaac_> | get a wintv go off ebay for like $15 :D |
| 17:11 | <sailor420> | eh, id rather have a remote with it |
| 17:12 | <isaac_> | i built one of those lirc recievers for a couple bucks. |
| 17:12 | <isaac_> | due to me being poor. |
| 17:12 | <Ku-laid> | Hmm..now , it'd be cool to have my keyboard's extra led light up for recording. I should take a look at that project. |
| 17:14 | <thor_> | you'd think that after more than a few moths of this I would learn to stop calling QThread->run() directly ! |
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| 17:27 | <davatar> | hmm.. in volumecontrol.cpp: QString controlLabel = gContext->GetSetting("MixerControl", "PCM"); |
| 17:28 | <davatar> | is this right? why do we specify PCM? |
| 17:28 | <thor_> | PCM is the default |
| 17:28 | <thor_> | if nothing is in the database |
| 17:29 | <davatar> | ahh.. So if we were doing a switch() we could just only specify ("MixerControl" ) ? |
| 17:29 | <thor_> | if you don't put in a default, the string could come back empty |
| 17:30 | <davatar> | ok... |
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| 17:32 | <thor_> | davatat, you tried line 79 of globalsettings.cpp in programs/mythfrontend ? |
| 17:32 | <thor_> | davatar, that is |
| 17:33 | <davatar> | yes, I have my pcm/altpcm under control.. but for some reason the initial volume on the pcm wouldn't work. I didn't know if I broke it or.... |
| 17:33 | <thor_> | ah |
| 17:48 | <o_cee> | what kind of info does one think they'll find on the status page? suggestions? |
| 17:49 | <o_cee> | starttime, title, description.. for the schedule. is the encoder important? |
| 17:49 | <o_cee> | (i only got one) |
| 17:49 | <davatar> | kinda redundant, but how about a countdown till next recording? helps when you're using your myth box for development, at least :) |
| 17:49 | <o_cee> | heh |
| 17:50 | <o_cee> | okay, yeah, maybe :) |
| 17:52 | <davatar> | does the backend hold a dropped frames counter anywhere? |
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| 18:26 | <davatar> | can someone test if inital PCM volume works for them? I'm not sure if it's a mythtv bug or my crappy soundcard. Master seems to work fine. |
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| 18:38 | <[M-M]> | no one cares about the segfault when the start of the video is cut out? :) |
| 18:39 | <Chutt> | i'd care more if there was a patch |
| 18:39 | <[M-M]> | :) |
| 18:39 | <Chutt> | got other stuff to work on in the meantime. |
| 18:40 | <[M-M]> | my gdb doesn't like me and won't work with threads, so I can't really figure out the stack, nor am I familiar with the code |
| 18:40 | <thor_> | I'd guess the lack of action is that other people can't reproduce it (?) ... may be time to try it with 9.1 ;-) |
| 18:40 | <[M-M]> | :) |
| 18:41 | <[M-M]> | hmm, I've got my laptop here today. I'll see what it does with it |
| 18:42 | <mecraw> | Chutt: the keybinding stuff looks good... is the plan to eventually make it configurable in the db? |
| 18:49 | <o_cee> | what would be the purpose if it wasn't configurable? |
| 18:49 | <isaac_> | bloat, of course |
| 18:50 | <o_cee> | right. |
| 18:50 | <isaac_> | hasn't microsoft taught you anything? |
| 18:50 | <o_cee> | who? |
| 18:50 | <isaac_> | s/microsoft/openoffice |
| 18:50 | <davatar> | I doubt bloat will ever be an issue, considering the processing power needed for the rest of the system.. |
| 18:51 | <isaac_> | davatar: that was a badly phrased, badly timed, badly delivered joke. |
| 18:51 | <isaac_> | my bad |
| 18:56 | <o_cee> | g'night all |
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| 19:05 | <mechou> | does anybody know if ivtv supports audio for avermedia m179 yet? Looks from the mailing list some ppl are using that card? |
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| 19:33 | <JonnyRo> | how do you redirect both stderr and stdout to a file? |
| 19:33 | <JonnyRo> | i can never remember the > syntax |
| 19:33 | <tmk> | bash? |
| 19:34 | <JonnyRo> | sh |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | ok |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | it's |
| 19:34 | <tmk> | command > file 2>&1 |
| 19:34 | <JonnyRo> | sidenote, btaudio works AMAZING on the hauppage wintv |
| 19:34 | <JonnyRo> | i wish i had one, i just built a mythbox for a friend |
| 19:34 | <JonnyRo> | and he had one |
| 19:34 | <JonnyRo> | tmk, thankyou |
| 19:35 | <D-side> | tmk: just before you joined, someone inquired into the status of the m179. is there any yet? :) |
| 19:35 | <mechou> | actually, I did. specifically about audio on m179 |
| 19:36 | <D-side> | i'm not sure that anyone who bought one has RECEIVED it yet. |
| 19:36 | <mechou> | D-side: hmm??? |
| 19:38 | <mechou> | D-side: are you saying ppl are being scammed? |
| 19:38 | <D-side> | no, not at all. |
| 19:38 | <D-side> | in fact, i think its been discussed to death on the list. |
| 19:39 | <mechou> | I haven't been checking the mythtv list lately.... |
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| 21:11 | <davatar> | reproducible segfault: after you select "watch recordings" if you press the down or up arrow before the screen refreshes, mythfrontend segfaults... |
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| 21:19 | <tmk> | D-side: i'm working on the code now. |
| 21:20 | <tmk> | should be ready for beta on friday or sat |
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| 21:45 | <cesman> | hello everyone |
| 21:51 | <Lenolium> | Yo |
| 21:55 | | * _Nero_ 's machine just froze up again.. argh.. |
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| 21:55 | <_Nero_> | any good way of troubleshooting hardware in linux? (I am suspecting a video card, but dont have another to plug in.. how would I narrow this down?) |
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| 21:58 | <brunes> | hello.. did zap2it change its format again (aka does xmltv need an update) ? |
| 21:58 | <brunes> | I just noticed I have no guide data for tomrrow |
| 22:00 | <brunes> | im getting this... |
| 22:00 | <brunes> | checking provider information for postal/zip code E3B2A6, be patient.. |
| 22:00 | <brunes> | zap2it gave us a page with no service provider options |
| 22:00 | <brunes> | check postal/zip code or www site (maybe they're down) |
| 22:00 | <brunes> | when I run mythfilldatabase |
| 22:00 | <thor_> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/XMLTV_again_P91302/ |
| 22:00 | <brunes> | needs a new tv_grab ? |
| 22:01 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:01 | <brunes> | k thanks |
| 22:01 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:01 | <brunes> | er, thats XMLTV CVS right, not myth CVS |
| 22:01 | <Morph> | hmm anyone used a 350 card without the tv-out? |
| 22:01 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:01 | <thor_> | brunes, yup |
| 22:01 | <brunes> | ok |
| 22:01 | <thor_> | Morph, no not me |
| 22:02 | <brunes> | hrm, the last update to tv_grab_na was 3 weeks ago |
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| 22:03 | <thor_> | you want 0.5.23 |
| 22:04 | <brunes> | oh ok |
| 22:04 | <brunes> | I seem to have 0.5.22 |
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| 22:05 | <thor_> | stupid question: flac rip files to extension flac ? |
| 22:05 | <thor_> | err .flac ? |
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| 22:18 | <Chutt> | thor, yeah |
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| 22:18 | <thor_> | figured as much |
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| 22:47 | <Chutt> | hey thor |
| 22:48 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:48 | <Chutt> | think anything'd break horribly if i made all_music and all_playlists in mythmusic persistant? |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | for now, at leasat |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | least |
| 22:49 | <thor_> | as in write to db right away ? |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | no, as in load them up on mythfrontend start |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | save em whenever the person exits a music thing |
| 22:49 | <thor_> | ah, no ... that'd be good ... |
| 22:50 | <thor_> | I'm in the middle of doing that |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | trying to get the 'playback music' function down to a void playMusic(void) |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | yeah, this is just real quick |
| 22:50 | <thor_> | but in the mfd :-) |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | while your mfd stuff is getting worked on =) |
| 22:50 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:50 | <Lenolium> | Hrm... anyone want to give me any tips on getting livetv working on a frontend that isn't on the same machine as the backend? |
| 22:51 | <Octane> | i swear to christ, mythtv is like... |
| 22:51 | <Octane> | the best thing since vi |
| 22:51 | <thor_> | heh |
| 22:52 | <Lenolium> | Octane: I would agree if I could figure out how to get it to record sound. |
| 22:52 | <Octane> | Lenolium: it took me... uhm, over a month to get it setup |
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| 22:52 | <Tofusensei> | :x |
| 22:52 | <Octane> | but last night my friend came over, we did a 14 hour marathon |
| 22:52 | <thor_> | Lenolium, careful with the IP addresses and going through all the config screens |
| 22:52 | <Octane> | there he is right now |
| 22:52 | <Tofusensei> | >:O |
| 22:52 | <Octane> | Tofusensei and i did a 14 hour marathon |
| 22:52 | <Octane> | and get mythtv working from scratch |
| 22:52 | <Tofusensei> | tantric PVR |
| 22:52 | <Lenolium> | thor_: I can watch pre-recorded stuff, just not live stuff |
| 22:52 | <Tofusensei> | it's hot |
| 22:52 | <Octane> | Lenolium sound itself took use four hours, from there it was smooth sailing |
| 22:53 | <Octane> | thor_ i know you're a developer, you did mythdvd right? |
| 22:53 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:53 | <Tofusensei> | any developers here? I wanted to bring up some glitches I noticed |
| 22:53 | <Octane> | Tofusensei im eating leftovers |
| 22:53 | <Tofusensei> | oh, okay |
| 22:53 | <Tofusensei> | thor_, I noticed 3 things that I think may be bugs |
| 22:53 | <thor_> | Lenolium, error messages? |
| 22:53 | <Tofusensei> | well, at least 1 is a bug |
| 22:53 | <Tofusensei> | the others are suggestions :D |
| 22:54 | <thor_> | Tofusensei, ok |
| 22:54 | <Octane> | 1 is a definite, the saving thing |
| 22:54 | <Tofusensei> | okay, first... |
| 22:54 | <Tofusensei> | when trying to specify the xine play command for VCDs, it won't let you save what you enter |
| 22:54 | <Tofusensei> | and the default entry is incorrect at least on RH9 |
| 22:54 | <Octane> | (the actual player command) |
| 22:54 | <Tofusensei> | so there's no way to use xine to play VCDs or SVCDs through myth |
| 22:54 | <thor_> | ah yes, I didn't actually do the VCD bit, but I know what you mean |
| 22:55 | <Tofusensei> | but it works in the console |
| 22:55 | <Tofusensei> | okay |
| 22:55 | <Tofusensei> | also |
| 22:55 | <Octane> | thor_ any workaround to get it to save? |
| 22:55 | <Tofusensei> | as far as I could tell |
| 22:55 | <thor_> | running cvs? |
| 22:55 | <Octane> | that would be too elite for me |
| 22:55 | <Tofusensei> | hehe |
| 22:55 | <Octane> | Tofusensei are we up for the cvs task? |
| 22:55 | <Tofusensei> | :X |
| 22:55 | <Tofusensei> | maybe after my project :) |
| 22:55 | <thor_> | running source ? |
| 22:56 | <Octane> | i just got .12 running so cvs might just have to wait... at leats 24 hours |
| 22:56 | <thor_> | or you could SQL it right into the databse |
| 22:56 | <Tofusensei> | as far as I could tell, there's no way to unmount a CD or DVD-rom in myth (latest binary release) |
| 22:56 | <Tofusensei> | so if you wanna switch DVDs or VCDs, you need to go to console |
| 22:56 | <Tofusensei> | and umount |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | there's no way to mount one either |
| 22:56 | <Tofusensei> | sorta lame |
| 22:56 | <thor_> | no mounting |
| 22:57 | <Tofusensei> | well it'll mount automagically |
| 22:57 | <thor_> | not myth |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | it sure as hell shouldn't be mounting automatically |
| 22:57 | <Tofusensei> | if lunix set up properly |
| 22:57 | <Tofusensei> | if you set up linux to automount |
| 22:57 | <Tofusensei> | :P |
| 22:57 | <Tofusensei> | it'll automount |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | why the hell would you do that? |
| 22:57 | <Tofusensei> | umm, I dunno, to access your files maybe |
| 22:57 | <Tofusensei> | O_o;;; |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | vcd's aren't available as files, they're read directly from the disc |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | why would you mount it? |
| 22:58 | <Tofusensei> | well, let's say for crazy reason, you wanted to do it |
| 22:58 | <Tofusensei> | it'd be nice to have a way to umount it from myth |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | then, it's your responsibility to unmount it, wouldn't you think? |
| 22:58 | <Tofusensei> | like an "eject" function |
| 22:58 | <Tofusensei> | or something |
| 22:59 | <Tofusensei> | I'm just trying to make a suggestion here, isn't that how programs improve? *_* |
| 22:59 | <Tofusensei> | like for example |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | programs improve by people contributing code |
| 23:00 | <Tofusensei> | by default RH9 automounts CDs |
| 23:00 | <Tofusensei> | so there are plenty of noobs out there |
| 23:00 | <Tofusensei> | who wouldn't know how to change that |
| 23:00 | <Tofusensei> | so they'd have to go to the console to switch CDs or DVDs in myth |
| 23:00 | <[M-M]> | is automounting still incredibly broken on those distros? |
| 23:01 | <[M-M]> | used to be if you went to, say, the floppy drive's directory and you had no floppy drive, it'd hang |
| 23:01 | <Tofusensei> | oh |
| 23:01 | <Tofusensei> | no, I didn't see that problem |
| 23:01 | <Tofusensei> | but yeah, I remember that from rh7 I think |
| 23:02 | <[M-M]> | one reason I'll never use a distro that does automounting :) |
| 23:02 | <thor_> | Tofusensei, turn off automounting, you'll be happier .... if you really want to keep it, write a bit of unmounting code :-) |
| 23:02 | <Tofusensei> | I'm actually working on a nice little program idea that will tie in w/ mythtv, btw, Chutt :) |
| 23:02 | <Tofusensei> | hehe, well I am not sure I am skilled enough to write that code into mythtv |
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| 23:03 | <Tofusensei> | but I think it'd be a nice little feature to consider for putting into it, if someone was talented enough to do it |
| 23:03 | <Tofusensei> | just to make noobs lives easier |
| 23:03 | <[M-M]> | thor_: odd... I changed nothing, and now Myth isn't crashing on those recordings anymore :/ ah well.. off to bed... got to go to work early tomorrow :/ |
| 23:04 | <thor_> | gremlins |
| 23:04 | <[M-M]> | probably :) |
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| 23:04 | <Tofusensei> | and what was the third thing I noticed...... |
| 23:05 | | * Tofusensei thinking outloud :X |
| 23:05 | <[M-M]> | oh well... Myth is back to being perfect again ;) |
| 23:06 | <thor_> | Tofusensei, UPDATE settings SET data = "my xine command" where value = "VCDPlayerCommand" ; |
| 23:06 | <thor_> | that'll fix the xine vcd thing |
| 23:07 | <Tofusensei> | oh, thank you very much |
| 23:07 | <Tofusensei> | Also, the default xine command in myth doesn't seem to be a valid xine expression, at least on the version of xine we were running (latest stable release) |
| 23:08 | <Tofusensei> | the xvcd:// part or whatever it said |
| 23:08 | <thor_> | it's already changed in cvs so that you can just enter whatever you want for playing videos |
| 23:08 | <Tofusensei> | ohh, that's good to know |
| 23:08 | <thor_> | I need to change the VCD bit as well though |
| 23:08 | <Octane> | hey while were talking mythtv... quick question |
| 23:09 | <Octane> | why do the videos in video list not come up in browse videos? |
| 23:09 | <Tofusensei> | ohhh |
| 23:09 | <Tofusensei> | I remember the third thing :D |
| 23:09 | <Tofusensei> | Video name display stops at the first period in the file name |
| 23:09 | <Octane> | yeS1 |
| 23:09 | <Tofusensei> | so if a file is "Who Shot Mr. Burns.avi" |
| 23:10 | <Tofusensei> | it show up as "Who Shot Mr" |
| 23:10 | <thor_> | Octane, browse by default is off by default |
| 23:10 | <thor_> | and you haven't edited them |
| 23:10 | <thor_> | (go into Video Manager, hit a number) |
| 23:10 | <thor_> | toggle browse flag |
| 23:10 | <thor_> | Tofusensei, ah, ok |
| 23:11 | <Tofusensei> | that should be easy enough to fix :) |
| 23:11 | <Tofusensei> | besides for that I didn't see anything else worth mentioning, I guess :X |
| 23:11 | <Octane> | thor_, video manager also returns no videos |
| 23:12 | <thor_> | eh? |
| 23:12 | <Tofusensei> | I've got this idea for auto-scripting myth caps into mencoder to make smaller xvid encodes and automatically putting them online onto a webserver or what have you |
| 23:12 | <Tofusensei> | so say if you were out of the country, you could still watch sportscenter |
| 23:12 | <Tofusensei> | >:) |
| 23:16 | <Octane> | thor_ my bad i just didnt dump mythvideos sql in to the db |
| 23:16 | <thor_> | ah, that would cover it |
| 23:18 | <Octane> | i want to live inside in the cvs server |
| 23:19 | <dopez> | i doubt there's allot of room in a pc case.. |
| 23:20 | <Octane> | lol |
| 23:23 | <Octane> | time get to get xine working with lirc |
| 23:23 | <Octane> | or the other way around |
| 23:23 | <Tofusensei> | don't fuck it up >:D |
| 23:24 | <Octane> | mythvideo just crashing getting info about a file from imdb |
| 23:26 | <thor_> | it's a bit sensitive ... you can download the posters manually and assign them using the GUI |
| 23:26 | <Octane> | will do |
| 23:26 | <Octane> | interesting i crashed on this one and not on others |
| 23:27 | <thor_> | if you go the manual route, put them in the same dir as the video file, and rename .jpg to .jpeg (that's a Qt fetish thing) |
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| 23:27 | <Octane> | go it. thanks! |
| 23:36 | <Octane> | hey Tofusensei |
| 23:36 | <Octane> | you get a response on the dots in filenames? |
| 23:37 | <Tofusensei> | umm |
| 23:37 | <Tofusensei> | [23:09] <Tofusensei> so if a file is "Who Shot Mr. Burns.avi" |
| 23:37 | <Tofusensei> | [23:09] <Tofusensei> it show up as "Who Shot Mr" |
| 23:37 | <Tofusensei> | [23:10] <thor_> Tofusensei, ah, ok |
| 23:37 | <Tofusensei> | :P |
| 23:37 | <Tofusensei> | learn to read |
| 23:37 | <Tofusensei> | :) |
| 23:44 | <thor_> | Tofusensei and/or Octane, this cutoff thing only happening when you're using the tree view and it's in file (ignore database) mode, correct ? |
| 23:45 | <Octane> | it happens in video list |
| 23:45 | <Octane> | tree view, yes |
| 23:45 | <thor_> | right |
| 23:45 | <thor_> | but only in file browsing mode, correct? |
| 23:46 | <Octane> | yes |
| 23:46 | <Octane> | is using parental controls as a way of sorting the videos shown in browse lame? |
| 23:46 | <thor_> | ok, should be fixed momentarily |
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| 23:50 | <Octane> | thor_ |
| 23:50 | <Octane> | please stop tempting me to use cbs |
| 23:50 | <Octane> | cvs* |
| 23:51 | <Octane> | thor_ do you by any chance know off the top of your head where in the db is the play command stored for vcd's? |
| 23:52 | <thor_> | UPDATE settings SET data = "my xine command" where value = "VCDPlayerCommand" ; |
| 23:52 | <thor_> | table is settings |
| 23:52 | <thor_> | database is mythconverg |
| 23:52 | <Octane> | im lazy, im using mysqlcc :) |
| 23:52 | <Octane> | but thank you very much |
| 23:58 | <davatar> | holy crap.. you can now recover from a kernel oops?! I oopsed two times in a row.. came back to bash.... |
| 23:59 | <thor_> | Beaver in Detox? |
| 23:59 | <davatar> | 2.4.22 |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | an oops isn't always fatal. |
| 23:59 | <thor_> | just happy I got to say, "Beaver in Detox" |
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