| --- | Log | opened Fri Dec 12 00:00:00 2003 |
| --- | Day | changed Fri Dec 12 2003 |
| 00:00 | hadees> | like any other device in /dev/video |
| 00:00 | hadees> | /dev/video/ |
| 00:00 | mechou> | oh, gotcha.... |
| 00:00 | Kuwanger> | hadees: Oh, that's pretty easy. |
| 00:01 | Kuwanger> | Well, except I don't have a /dev/video.. :) |
| 00:02 | mechou> | hadees: you ghot intel or amd in atech case? |
| 00:02 | hadees> | Kuwanger: how do i set it so only mythtv user can access the cards /dev/video/video0 /dev/video/video1 /dev/video/video2 |
| 00:02 | Kuwanger> | hadees: Private message me some idea of the permissions you want. |
| 00:02 | hadees> | intel |
| 00:02 | Kuwanger> | Is there anything else in /dev/video? |
| 00:03 | hadees> | well not right now how ever i want to possiblity |
| 00:03 | Kuwanger> | REGISTER video/video.* PERMISSIONS mythuser.nobody 600 |
| 00:04 | mechou> | I though /dev/video is a link to v4l? |
| 00:04 | hadees> | wait won't that set myth as the user for all the stuff the /dev/video/ dir? |
| 00:04 | mechou> | thought |
| 00:04 | hadees> | oh wait it is /dev/v4l/video/ or somthing |
| 00:05 | hadees> | i don't know mechou it would be the same i can look that up later |
| 00:05 | Kuwanger> | REGISTER video/[^(video)].* PERMISSIONS root.video 660 |
| 00:05 | hadees> | what i need for my case now is to write somthing so i can use my powermate knob |
| 00:07 | Kuwanger> | You'll also have to modify /etc/security/console.perms to make sure that video/video.* isn't included. |
| 00:09 | hadees> | yeah what is the deal with /etc/security/console.perms |
| 00:09 | hadees> | what is it for? |
| 00:09 | hadees> | seems like the same as devfs but over rides it |
| 00:09 | Kuwanger> | Whoever is at console gets special privileges. |
| 00:10 | Kuwanger> | That's why <logged in user>.<group> 660 is permissions for most things in /dev |
| 00:10 | Kuwanger> | s/group/related device group |
| 00:10 | Kuwanger> | Or was that 600..hmm.. |
| 00:12 | hadees> | intresting |
| 00:13 | hadees> | has anyone seen myhtpc? i just don't see how people can use that for an htpc... |
| 00:14 | hadees> | there is no real linking together of stuff in windows htpcs... all bat scrips |
| 00:15 | mechou> | hehe, imagine that still using batch files in this day and age.... |
| 00:16 | mechou> | that's tight integration for ye.... |
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| 00:16 | hadees> | i looked into windows stuff before linux because of the possiblity of playing windows games on a tv but i couldn't stand the software |
| 00:17 | hadees> | how ever there is one program called netremote.org i love that |
| 00:18 | hadees> | i want to write an interface for mythtv but i don't think i am up to that quite yet |
| 00:18 | hadees> | however if anyone wants a cool inexpensive and better then pronto like remote that talks to your htpc over wireless internet |
| 00:19 | hadees> | write a client server for linux |
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| 00:44 | * | mikegrb is a bad ass |
| 00:44 | mikegrb> | thank-you that is all |
| 00:50 | * | mikegrb wants signal to reload osd while playing back! :) |
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| 01:08 | whatsit> | I wanted to stop in and say congrats on version 0.13 |
| 01:09 | whatsit> | i'm also wondering if anyone is using a mythtv box with an hdtv and if so, what res they use for watchable tv |
| 01:12 | whatsit> | i'm trying 480x480 and it doesn't look great coming out of my GX440's tv-out |
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| 01:37 | cesman> | hello everyone |
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| 02:06 | mikegrb> | Chutt: you around by any chance? |
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| 02:50 | ShockValue> | hrm i think i have something hozed up :) |
| 02:51 | ShockValue> | i run "mythsetup" and it loads the configuration graphic as my background , and my mouse pointer dissapears (my KDE bottom toolbar is still on top and functional) |
| 02:51 | ShockValue> | any clues on what i need to do? |
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| 02:52 | o_cee> | the mouse is supposed to dissapear |
| 02:53 | mikegrb> | ShockValue: yes you need to read the docs |
| 02:53 | o_cee> | that oo |
| 02:53 | o_cee> | too |
| 02:53 | ShockValue> | i have them open right in front of me... im not seeing anything about that part :) |
| 02:53 | ShockValue> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html |
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| 02:54 | o_cee> | you didn't say what your problem is either |
| 02:54 | o_cee> | look at the console |
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| 02:56 | ShockValue> | i run mythsetup.. it asks me if i want to clear my settings, i say yes to both (see doc link above).. then it opens the mythtv config graphic.. but i cant seem to get it to respond to anything. |
| 02:56 | o_cee> | and the console says? |
| 02:57 | ShockValue> | bash-2.05b$ mythsetup |
| 02:57 | ShockValue> | Would you like to clear all capture card |
| 02:57 | ShockValue> | settings before starting configuration? [no] yes |
| 02:57 | ShockValue> | Would you like to clear all program/channel |
| 02:57 | ShockValue> | settings before starting configuration? [no] yes |
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| 02:57 | ShockValue> | thats all she wrote :) |
| 02:58 | o_cee> | make sure you've got the db setup properly. make sure you've got your tuners modprobed. |
| 02:58 | ShockValue> | hrm.. do i /have/ to have a tuner installed? it hasnt arrived yet, and i wanted to test out the rest of the system.. |
| 02:59 | ShockValue> | music, mame etc |
| 02:59 | o_cee> | just run mythfrontend then. |
| 02:59 | ShockValue> | k ill try that |
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| 03:04 | ShockValue> | well that got something up and runnin alright! |
| 03:11 | hadees> | anyone know if there is a 13 ebuild yet? |
| 03:15 | hadees> | guess not, i wonder how long it is before it is updated usally |
| 03:15 | hadees> | anyone know? |
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| 03:18 | ShockValue> | wow, so far mythtv kicks ass.. and i dont even have a frickin tv card :) |
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| 03:32 | o_cee> | hadees: http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mythtv <- not marked stable yet |
| 03:33 | ShockValue> | hrm.. i cant seem to get myth to recognise my audio filename structure for naming... |
| 03:33 | ShockValue> | this is what my dirs look like |
| 03:33 | ShockValue> | . /Audio/Artist/Album/Artist - Album - Track Number - Track Title.flac |
| 03:34 | o_cee> | go to the mailinglist instead, this is a dev recourse |
| 03:34 | hadees> | does the ebuild upgrade everything for you? |
| 03:34 | hadees> | like right now i am running .12 and i want .13, do i do anything besides emerge mythtv ? |
| 03:35 | ShockValue> | i set myth to: Directory = /Audio and filename format = ARTIST - ALBUM - TRACK_TITLE |
| 03:35 | ShockValue> | what did i miss? |
| 03:35 | o_cee> | hadees: no clue, never used them |
| 03:36 | sfr> | ShockValue: in the ripper settings? |
| 03:36 | ShockValue> | no, in the music->general settings |
| 03:36 | ShockValue> | also i selected 'ignore id3 tag' since none of my music has id3's |
| 03:37 | sfr> | ShockValue: it's all your fault then, (living without id3 tags) |
| 03:37 | ShockValue> | flac files dont have id3 tags... |
| 03:37 | ShockValue> | or at least.. they shouldnt (although some bastards still put them on there) |
| 03:38 | sfr> | so filename should look s/t like Artist/Album/Artist-Album-Track_No-Track_Title |
| 03:39 | ShockValue> | track_no is an option? ididnt see that listed anyplace |
| 03:39 | sfr> | but i never used the ignore id3 tags options, so i could be wrong |
| 03:39 | ShockValue> | trying it now :) |
| 03:39 | sfr> | ShockValue: "s/t like that" ;) |
| 03:39 | o_cee> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-15.html#ss15.5 |
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| 03:41 | ShockValue> | yeah, i dont think track_no is an option |
| 03:42 | ShockValue> | o_cee i tried the TRACK_TITLE option which seems to suggest it will read the track number AND the title, but that didnt seem to work... |
| 03:42 | sfr> | could be just track instead |
| 03:42 | ShockValue> | artist - album - track_title |
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| 04:21 | Octane> | anyone know whats this thing about an alsa kernel |
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| 04:41 | o_cee> | "length mismatch between programinfo" when entering the pririties screen.. anyone else seen that |
| 04:41 | o_cee> | ? |
| 04:51 | o_cee> | oh, that's brand new code.. |
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| 05:05 | janek> | morning |
| 05:19 | o_cee> | anyone here running cvs? |
| 05:20 | sfr> | cvs right-before-the-0.13-release |
| 05:26 | o_cee> | this's about the latest commits |
| 05:27 | o_cee> | trying to track it down but thre's alot of code ;) |
| 05:28 | sfr> | from another ml "Those who choose to lead the way should lead, and be telling the rest of us about problem solutions" :) |
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| 05:50 | o_cee> | Chutt: don't know if you'll catch this on scrollback when you wake up.. but i think you broke the "Set Rec Priorities" screen somehow with your commit yesterday.. haven't been able to figure out why, but i get programinfo mismatch.. some debug says there's 12 shows scheduled, times 28, plus 1, wich always is 8 more than the lenght of the list.. but as i said, i don't understand why.. |
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| 09:17 | fathom> | why might i not be hearing the audio from my recorded shows? |
| 09:32 | mikegrb> | because you don't have the sound setup right? |
| 09:32 | mikegrb> | did you read the docs? |
| 09:33 | fathom> | i gues sso... |
| 09:37 | kvandivo> | o_cee: thanks for the note on that. you probably have given me the ammo i need to fix #8 |
| 09:38 | mikegrb> | kvandivo: ! |
| 09:38 | mikegrb> | kvandivo: I sent my stuff in :) |
| 09:39 | mikegrb> | changed the perl script to send the udp packet itself rather then calling the mythnotify binary |
| 09:39 | mikegrb> | and made my pretty picture |
| 09:40 | mikegrb> | I need to remake the image and make the box come out just a little more from the side to give a bit more room for subject and from... maybe move down more towards the bottom too |
| 09:40 | mikegrb> | or maybe use Chutt's scrolling notify thingie |
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| 09:46 | kvandivo> | whew.. that was a lot of reading to catch up on. |
| 09:46 | kvandivo> | cool, mikegrb. haven't yet started on email.. wanted to catch up on #mythtv first. ;) |
| 09:46 | mikegrb> | heh yes |
| 09:46 | mikegrb> | I didn't sleep last night |
| 09:46 | mikegrb> | had a box rooted |
| 09:47 | mikegrb> | by the time I was ready for sleep there was no point |
| 09:47 | kvandivo> | youch |
| 09:47 | mikegrb> | it was mainly my fault... I was running some questionable code to determine it's affects |
| 09:48 | mikegrb> | I need to finish up my research on that this weekend and fire off a message to the bugtraq list on monday perhaps |
| 09:48 | mikegrb> | at the very least to some isp's ;) |
| 09:48 | mikegrb> | I picked a computer that was the most disposable to run it on |
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| 09:48 | mikegrb> | what was really spiffy |
| 09:49 | mikegrb> | after it happened I was talking to caker (the linode guy) and he gave me another linode to use as a honeypot :) |
| 09:49 | mikegrb> | they never went after it though :/ |
| 09:49 | mikegrb> | was really funny on the box of mine they screwed themselves over |
| 09:49 | mikegrb> | they messed up the /etc/passwd file and then couldn't go any further |
| 09:50 | mikegrb> | so far that is the only file they modified :) |
| 09:53 | kvandivo> | often they screw.. but usually they learn |
| 09:53 | kvandivo> | err.. screw up, that is |
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| 10:41 | janek> | anybody got an idae about why transcoding might not work for me? |
| 10:41 | janek> | I hit X while watching the playback but nothing seems to happen |
| 10:48 | warlord> | the transcode works in the background. |
| 10:48 | warlord> | did you go into the directory and check the files? |
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| 10:50 | janek> | warlord: I checked with top... the cpu remained idle |
| 10:50 | warlord> | Hmm. I only tried the transcode once. |
| 10:50 | warlord> | So I'm not really a good person to help. |
| 10:50 | janek> | though following your suggestion I looked in the directory and it appears that it did attempt to create a .tmp file for it |
| 10:51 | janek> | it only got to 5.5MB of it though |
| 10:52 | janek> | it could be because that channel has a tendency to change resolution after the adverts at the beginning of a program, which mythtv doesn't seem to like during playback so perhaps it's the same problem |
| 10:53 | janek> | but it's the same for another program I tried to transcode... |
| 10:53 | warlord> | yea, probably. |
| 10:54 | janek> | only one of them is from that channel though... but perhaps it just killed the transcode daemon |
| 10:54 | janek> | I shall have to investigate further |
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| 11:00 | warlord> | I didn't think there was actually a transcode daemon per se. |
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| 15:34 | Netslayer> | can anyone briefly explain what i have to do in gentoo to get my wintv 401 dbx working (non pvr250/350)? |
| 15:34 | Netslayer> | i compiled bttv, v4l etc into the kernel 2.4.23 and do i just go emerge bttv and it should work? |
| 15:36 | Netslayer> | apparently there is no bttv package so i'll just boot and give it a shot |
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| 16:41 | Berto> | netslayer |
| 16:41 | Berto> | not here.. |
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| 16:47 | Netslayer> | i'm trying to compile my 2.4.23 kernel and i2c keeps giving unresolved symbols for i2c like "scx200_gpio_shadow", what did i forget? |
| 16:47 | Berto> | when running mythtvfrontend, i get this error: Unable to connect to database! ... Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 16:48 | Berto> | where are the docs that tell me how to setup mysql for mythtv ?? |
| 16:48 | Berto> | the MySQL section on the web page provides like nothing |
| 16:48 | Netslayer> | it should just work |
| 16:48 | Berto> | Netslayer: i have no clue... but you might get more general linux help in #linuxhelp or something ? |
| 16:48 | Netslayer> | u prob haven't set mysql permission like it says to do to allow remote frontends |
| 16:48 | Berto> | or maybe there's a #gentoo channel (the guys in #mandrake for me are nice) |
| 16:49 | Berto> | Netslayer: yeah iknow, where's the doc for that? me and mysql usually don't get along well and i need some steps :) |
| 16:49 | sfr> | Berto: have a closer look |
| 16:49 | sfr> | Berto: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| 16:50 | Berto> | oh oh oh i didn't read past mandrake, thanks |
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| 16:51 | fathom> | sfr, hey i have a really weird behavior from mythtv.... if i just try to run it it's all distorted, but if i run xawtv first, it fixes the picture. |
| 16:53 | Berto> | wow slick program you guys have here! |
| 16:53 | Berto> | i'm gonna try to watch some tv now |
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| 16:55 | Berto> | can't connect to backend server... hmm... i need to run setup i guess |
| 16:56 | sfr> | fathom: can you change channels in myth? |
| 16:56 | Berto> | this is gonna rock so much with my remote control and lirc (only use it with xmms now) |
| 16:56 | fathom> | sfr, yep |
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| 16:57 | sfr> | fathom: not sure, maybe your channel setup is wrong causing myth to tune to the wrong frequency |
| 16:57 | fathom> | i used the same settings i used in xawtv |
| 16:57 | fathom> | that works fine |
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| 17:03 | pcjabber> | Good afternoon, all |
| 17:03 | pcjabber> | I have a little question about Myth's Scheduled Recordings screen |
| 17:03 | pcjabber> | I am not a noob to myth |
| 17:04 | pcjabber> | but it must be a new feature to .13 |
| 17:04 | pcjabber> | which, by the way, is a great release =) |
| 17:04 | pcjabber> | In the Fix Conflicts screen, what do the letter codes to the side mean |
| 17:04 | pcjabber> | like P, 1 (or is that an I?), O, V, C |
| 17:04 | Berto> | putting in my zip code is doing nothing... is the server down that i connect to? |
| 17:05 | Berto> | zap2it gave us a page with no service provider options |
| 17:05 | Berto> | check postal/zip code or www site (maybe they're down |
| 17:05 | pcjabber> | In setup, berto? |
| 17:05 | Berto> | pcjabber: yeah |
| 17:05 | Berto> | my zip code is 43201 |
| 17:05 | pcjabber> | are you sure it just isnt taking a while? |
| 17:05 | Berto> | hmm its been about a minute now |
| 17:05 | warlord> | pcjabber: if you select a program like that it will tell you |
| 17:05 | pcjabber> | When i re-setup last night, Zap2it took about 1.5 mins to even fetch provider data |
| 17:06 | pcjabber> | k thanks warlord |
| 17:06 | Berto> | after entering the first 4 digits, a long pause... and then the fifth one pops in |
| 17:06 | warlord> | P = previous, O = Other, C = conflict. I dont recall V |
| 17:06 | Berto> | and i can't even push the bar for providers! |
| 17:06 | pcjabber> | weird |
| 17:06 | pcjabber> | let me check zap2it |
| 17:06 | Berto> | thanks pcjabber |
| 17:06 | pcjabber> | you are using the latest XMLTV? |
| 17:06 | pcjabber> | i think it ends with .25 |
| 17:06 | Berto> | pcjabber: i can check version... but probalby |
| 17:06 | pcjabber> | k |
| 17:06 | pcjabber> | just a sec |
| 17:07 | Berto> | xmltv-0.5.17-1thac |
| 17:07 | Berto> | should i find a newer one? |
| 17:07 | pcjabber> | yep |
| 17:07 | Berto> | ahhh ok! |
| 17:07 | pcjabber> | thats probably the problem |
| 17:07 | Berto> | stupid thac :) |
| 17:07 | pcjabber> | are you running RH9? |
| 17:07 | Berto> | pcjabber: mdk 9.2 |
| 17:07 | pcjabber> | or FC1? |
| 17:07 | pcjabber> | k |
| 17:07 | Berto> | i wonder if mandrake has their own rpms for it |
| 17:08 | pcjabber> | i think you can run urpmi xmltv |
| 17:08 | Berto> | pcjabber: when i did that it probalby connected to thac's, which are old |
| 17:08 | pcjabber> | yeah..z2i is working fine |
| 17:08 | pcjabber> | k |
| 17:08 | Berto> | ok thanks |
| 17:08 | pcjabber> | np =) |
| 17:08 | Berto> | no, mandrake doesn't have xmltv |
| 17:08 | Berto> | have a good site to download? i like mandrake rpms but source compiling is fine too |
| 17:08 | pcjabber> | ahh ok |
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| 17:08 | pcjabber> | k let me see just a sec |
| 17:09 | jbeimler> | mandrake has it all in the contrib section I think |
| 17:09 | pcjabber> | you running cooker, or just straight 9? (havent used mdk in a while) |
| 17:09 | pcjabber> | rpmfind.net is great |
| 17:09 | pcjabber> | =) |
| 17:10 | Berto> | 9.2 straight up |
| 17:10 | Berto> | yeah i'll check there |
| 17:10 | Berto> | otehrwise they got some tarbunnies |
| 17:10 | pcjabber> | cooker -> http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/cooker/contrib/i586/xmltv-0.5.25-1mdk.noarch.html |
| 17:10 | Berto> | ooh contrib! |
| 17:10 | Berto> | thanks pcjabber |
| 17:10 | pcjabber> | np Berto |
| 17:10 | cesman> | tarbunnies? |
| 17:10 | Berto> | lol |
| 17:10 | pcjabber> | ill post the full list of letter codes for FixConflicts in just a sec |
| 17:10 | pcjabber> | tarbunnies...lol |
| 17:11 | pcjabber> | as opposed to tarrabbits? |
| 17:11 | pcjabber> | or tarhares? |
| 17:11 | pcjabber> | =) |
| 17:11 | Berto> | tarbunnies sounded like a good ring... kinda like tarball |
| 17:11 | Berto> | oh god dependency hell... time to rebuild my own rpm |
| 17:11 | pcjabber> | lol |
| 17:12 | pcjabber> | thats why i like apt-get |
| 17:12 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 17:12 | pcjabber> | i run RH9 |
| 17:12 | pcjabber> | the only thing i had d/l'd at the time |
| 17:12 | pcjabber> | lol |
| 17:12 | pcjabber> | and it is on a suck-@$$ computer |
| 17:12 | Berto> | yeah well urpmi is great too, but not if the package isn't in the source :) |
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| 17:12 | Berto> | and this one was built with dependencies on newer perl...etc |
| 17:12 | pcjabber> | an old HP Pavilion 400Mhz celeron |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | with 128MB memory |
| 17:13 | Berto> | yeah i'm wondering how watching tv will go on my athlon 550 |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | I am (hopefully) getting a Pundit for Christmas |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | asked the parents =) |
| 17:13 | Berto> | i'm still not even sure if the cable into my room is good.. i should get a real tv up here just to test it quick |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | Ath 550? shouldnt go too bad |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 17:13 | Berto> | yeah 400 or so mb ram |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | you running BTTV, or IVTV? |
| 17:13 | Berto> | been a work horse for 4 years now |
| 17:13 | Berto> | bttv |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | not bad at all |
| 17:13 | Berto> | why? whats ivtv |
| 17:13 | pcjabber> | me too, for now |
| 17:13 | Berto> | yeah it does what i need - mp3, homework, and chat |
| 17:14 | pcjabber> | IVTV = driver for WinTV-PVR250/350 |
| 17:14 | Berto> | oh |
| 17:14 | Berto> | no i have a pinnacle systems pc studio |
| 17:14 | pcjabber> | which is (hopefully) what i am getting for Christmas also |
| 17:14 | pcjabber> | Pinnacles run on BTTV, IIRC |
| 17:14 | Berto> | i don' eeven use it (will soon hopefully).. but i've DEFINITELY gottne 80 dollars worth out of the remote + xmms |
| 17:14 | Berto> | yep bttv |
| 17:14 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 17:14 | Berto> | i thought maybe ivtv was a new competitor of bttv and had better stuff or something... |
| 17:15 | pcjabber> | nope...just a different type of driver |
| 17:15 | pcjabber> | and it wouldnt work with a bttv chipset... |
| 17:15 | pcjabber> | kinda like trying to use an nVidia driver on an ATI card |
| 17:15 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 17:15 | Berto> | wishing i had a faster processor now though... building xmltv is doing these test_filters taking forever |
| 17:15 | Berto> | haha yea |
| 17:15 | Berto> | oh yeah for mythtv, should i enable my nvidia GLX super drivers? i just using the base XFree ones right now |
| 17:15 | pcjabber> | xmltv is a pain in the @rse to build |
| 17:16 | pcjabber> | i would say so...I dont have an nVidia card in my system, but i think its recommended to do so |
| 17:16 | Berto> | oh, i already am using em... didn't even know |
| 17:16 | pcjabber> | if you dont, you wont get XV support, which you need for Myth (IIRC reading the list right) |
| 17:16 | Berto> | i see.. |
| 17:16 | * | pcjabber has to eat something before he collapses |
| 17:16 | pcjabber> | brb |
| 17:17 | nchip> | what's the most up-to-date mythtv+dvb guide? |
| 17:17 | pcjabber> | you mean with XMLTV? |
| 17:17 | pcjabber> | or else? |
| 17:17 | pcjabber> | i am not familiar with DVB |
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| 17:17 | pcjabber> | XMLTV's latest is 0.5.25 |
| 17:17 | pcjabber> | brb |
| 17:18 | nchip> | no, guide as in setting it all up :) |
| 17:18 | Berto> | i like how you guys designed this softare |
| 17:18 | Berto> | ware |
| 17:18 | Berto> | HTML::TreeBuilder wtf... |
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| 17:19 | Berto> | how would i know what package in mandrake that is... or is it time to go to perl.org |
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| 17:23 | pcjabber> | at the cmd prompt, as root, do "cpan" |
| 17:24 | pcjabber> | then type "install HTML::TreeBuilder" |
| 17:24 | pcjabber> | after that installs, do "exit" |
| 17:24 | pcjabber> | the above was directed to Berto, btw =) |
| 17:24 | pcjabber> | nchip, sorry, i dont know |
| 17:25 | Berto> | pcjabber: yep, workin on it |
| 17:25 | Berto> | i already ahve perl-HTML-tree installed |
| 17:25 | Berto> | makes me mad |
| 17:25 | pcjabber> | like i said, i know nothing about DVB =) |
| 17:25 | pcjabber> | hmm |
| 17:25 | pcjabber> | well, now it needs treebuilder heh |
| 17:26 | Berto> | hot chick just called |
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| 17:31 | Berto> | tv_grab_na command not found... i can't win. |
| 17:31 | pcjabber> | ewww |
| 17:31 | Berto> | is this an 'illegal' type program that they can't do in north america? |
| 17:31 | Berto> | and i'll have to rebuild myself from source? |
| 17:32 | pcjabber> | it shouldnt be illegal |
| 17:32 | pcjabber> | but you may have to rebuild from src |
| 17:32 | Berto> | yeah i have tv_grab_fi and so on... but no north america |
| 17:32 | pcjabber> | i used apt-get, so i wouldnt know...sorry |
| 17:32 | Berto> | pcjabber: i did from soruce rpm... now i tarbunny it |
| 17:32 | Berto> | haaaa |
| 17:32 | Berto> | stupid evil anti american packagers |
| 17:32 | Berto> | that's all it is! |
| 17:32 | pcjabber> | hehe |
| 17:32 | pcjabber> | Axel Thimm is non-American, German, in fact, and his pkg works ;-p |
| 17:33 | * | SarahEmm uses gentoo on her mythtv box, it works great w/ xmltv and everything |
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| 17:33 | Berto> | pcjabber: well not this mandrake contrib guy :) |
| 17:33 | pcjabber> | heh |
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| 17:34 | pcjabber> | is anyone using Visor/VisorOSD with .13? |
| 17:34 | pcjabber> | do i just need to dl the new package? |
| 17:34 | pcjabber> | or is it not compatible yet? |
| 17:34 | Berto> | on screen display? |
| 17:34 | pcjabber> | i do like the new GANT theme though (i think thats what its called lol) |
| 17:34 | Berto> | i use one of those with XMMS.. i'll have to get that if you get it working with .13 |
| 17:34 | pcjabber> | OSD and theme |
| 17:34 | Berto> | (if *I* get .13 going ever |
| 17:34 | pcjabber> | hehe |
| 17:35 | Berto> | look! the source made no tv_grab_na either |
| 17:35 | Berto> | what is going on... |
| 17:36 | pcjabber> | weird |
| 17:37 | Berto> | i see why |
| 17:37 | pcjabber> | why? |
| 17:37 | Berto> | HTML::Parser 3.34 or later is required for tv_grab_na |
| 17:37 | Berto> | i have 3.31 |
| 17:37 | pcjabber> | ahh |
| 17:37 | pcjabber> | that makes sense |
| 17:37 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 17:37 | pcjabber> | do a "force install HTML::Parser" if it wont let you update it in CPAN |
| 17:37 | Berto> | ok thanks |
| 17:38 | Berto> | i already started a regulare one, i thinkit'll work |
| 17:38 | pcjabber> | any clue what the icons in Play recordings mean? |
| 17:38 | SarahEmm> | yep, one sec |
| 17:38 | pcjabber> | the RIP logo, the book, the $ with a no symbol thru it? |
| 17:38 | pcjabber> | thanks sarahemm |
| 17:38 | SarahEmm> | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003-September/014191.html |
| 17:38 | Berto> | no money? i'd think they would WANT donations |
| 17:39 | SarahEmm> | heh, no_money symbol = commercials flagged |
| 17:39 | sfr> | pcjabber: use your imagination for a second :) |
| 17:39 | Berto> | wow can myth flag its own commercials?! |
| 17:39 | Berto> | or you do that yourself? |
| 17:39 | SarahEmm> | it does. |
| 17:39 | pcjabber> | it can flag them |
| 17:39 | SarahEmm> | hit 'z' to skip a commercial break. |
| 17:39 | pcjabber> | automatically |
| 17:39 | Berto> | wow how does it do that? |
| 17:39 | pcjabber> | or turn on autocommercial skip |
| 17:39 | Berto> | does it get a code from the cable company, or is it smart software? |
| 17:39 | pcjabber> | smart sw |
| 17:39 | SarahEmm> | it's in the config, either by blank screen detection or scene change detection. |
| 17:39 | Berto> | that's so cool... |
| 17:39 | SarahEmm> | Berto: smart software. cable companies don't want to encourage commercial skipping :) |
| 17:39 | Berto> | pcjabber: care to explain how that code operates? |
| 17:40 | pcjabber> | blank frame detection, and it works verrry well |
| 17:40 | Berto> | SarahEmm: that's what i figured |
| 17:40 | Berto> | thats cool |
| 17:40 | SarahEmm> | anyone know what 'scene change detection' is? |
| 17:40 | Berto> | but what if i'm watching seinfeld and the screen goes blank, switching to a new scene |
| 17:40 | SarahEmm> | i've got it set to 'blank frame detection' right now which works okay, but not great |
| 17:40 | Berto> | interesting stuf |
| 17:40 | SarahEmm> | Berto: i think it relies on the longer-than-normal blank screen before/after commercial breaks. |
| 17:40 | Berto> | very cool indeed |
| 17:40 | pcjabber> | Berto and Sarah, if you turn on Strict detection, it will watch for a few blank frames before flagging |
| 17:41 | pcjabber> | it works better |
| 17:41 | Berto> | what language is myth written in |
| 17:41 | Berto> | i cguess i could just check |
| 17:41 | billytwowilly> | C++ |
| 17:41 | pcjabber> | C++ |
| 17:41 | SarahEmm> | Berto: C++ mostly |
| 17:41 | Berto> | awesome |
| 17:41 | pcjabber> | wow that was a quick response |
| 17:41 | Berto> | i been neck deep in C++ this quarter |
| 17:41 | pcjabber> | Qt, too |
| 17:41 | Berto> | yeah i figured some qt |
| 17:41 | * | billytwowilly played too much cs in his youth;) |
| 17:41 | billytwowilly> | reaction time is king;) |
| 17:41 | * | SarahEmm is learning C++ as she writes extra stuff for Myth |
| 17:42 | pcjabber> | C++ and Qt mainly |
| 17:42 | pcjabber> | along with MySQL lol |
| 17:42 | SarahEmm> | and PHP for the web stuff. |
| 17:42 | Berto> | I like C++ a lot... we just had a huge class for system software |
| 17:42 | Berto> | wrote a microprocessor simulator, assembler, and linking loader |
| 17:42 | pcjabber> | cool |
| 17:43 | Berto> | yeah the dreams in C++ are starting to stop haha |
| 17:44 | Berto> | of course it doesn't work. why would it! Can't locate XMLTV/ZapListings.pm :) |
| 17:44 | * | Berto shoudl follow instructions.. nevermind |
| 17:45 | sfr> | as boring as that is, but it usually helps |
| 17:46 | Berto> | i'm so used to make / make install i didn't realize they wanted a make test in there |
| 17:46 | Berto> | if this works i'm gonna go downstairs to watch tv like never |
| 17:46 | Berto> | and i'll actually get to record shows that i should watch but never do... like south aprk |
| 17:46 | Berto> | i haven't been this excited since yesterday |
| 17:47 | Berto> | haha |
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| 17:56 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 17:56 | pcjabber> | i like recording shows that i cant possibly stay up to watch |
| 17:56 | Berto> | nope, still didn't work. this is xmltv stuff though so i won't bother you guys... stuff about ZapListings.pl |
| 17:56 | mdz> | Chutt: so will 0.13 upgrade the database from 0.11, or do I need a partial upgrade script? |
| 17:56 | pcjabber> | like "Three's Company" at 1 in the morning |
| 17:56 | pcjabber> | it should |
| 17:56 | pcjabber> | mdz |
| 17:57 | mdz> | yes? |
| 17:57 | Berto> | three's company.. haven't seen that forever! |
| 17:57 | pcjabber> | Nick at Nite -- 1AM EST |
| 17:58 | mdz> | oh yay, only one conflict |
| 17:59 | Berto> | pcjabber: i'll pvr it if i can install |
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| 18:02 | marc_> | good evening |
| 18:03 | marc_> | been playing around with mythweather, and like it a lot |
| 18:03 | sfr> | he's alive! or a bot :) |
| 18:03 | marc_> | ? |
| 18:03 | Berto> | whats mythweather do? give weather report? |
| 18:03 | marc_> | yes |
| 18:03 | Berto> | i just have a gnome panel weather applet for that |
| 18:04 | marc_> | well, I've got a TV set :-) |
| 18:04 | sfr> | marc_: i've only seen you join/quit as far as i remember :) |
| 18:04 | marc_> | oh. sorry. |
| 18:04 | marc_> | rebooting my myth box all the time because i'm playing around with ivtv. which breaks my network connection |
| 18:05 | sfr> | np |
| 18:05 | marc_> | anyways... mythweather can't seem to gather a weathermap for my location |
| 18:05 | warlord> | perhaps you should use irc from some other box? |
| 18:05 | marc_> | i do |
| 18:05 | marc_> | but they're both on the same bridge |
| 18:05 | warlord> | then why would rebooting myth do anything to your network connection? |
| 18:05 | marc_> | whenever the bridge learns about the myth box coming live, it gets all ecstatic |
| 18:05 | marc_> | for a couple seconds |
| 18:06 | warlord> | sounds like you need a new network appliance. |
| 18:06 | marc_> | www.fli4l.de |
| 18:06 | marc_> | I'm glad it works at all. Connects my ethernet based network with 2 computers using bluetooth dongles |
| 18:06 | marc_> | pretty transparent, except for the disruption. |
| 18:06 | marc_> | and only really noticeable in irc |
| 18:07 | pcjabber> | mythweather seems to have a problem with gathering weathermaps sometimes |
| 18:07 | mchou> | anybody here using kernel 2.4.21 or above? (with bttv 9+)? |
| 18:07 | pcjabber> | press "i" in mythweather |
| 18:08 | pcjabber> | and set your connection setting to a lower speed (medium speed connection, etc) |
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| 18:08 | pcjabber> | that way it wont timeout instantly |
| 18:08 | pcjabber> | sometimes it just doesnt like Weather.com's feed |
| 18:08 | pcjabber> | anyone know if you can set up MythWeb on a different machine than the machine Myth is on? |
| 18:08 | mchou> | actuall I meant kernel 2.4.22 and above..... |
| 18:09 | marc_> | pcjabber: doesn't seem to do it... |
| 18:09 | mchou> | actually |
| 18:09 | marc_> | maybe it's just weather.com then... |
| 18:09 | pcjabber> | marc:, sometimes weather.com has hiccups =) |
| 18:09 | pcjabber> | it wont get a map for me ATM either |
| 18:09 | SarahEmm> | pcjabber: i think you cam. |
| 18:09 | pcjabber> | brb got to SSH into my BSD server |
| 18:09 | SarahEmm> | can |
| 18:09 | pcjabber> | k thanks sarah |
| 18:10 | Berto> | wow its worknig!! slick too! its even downloading jpg files of each channel! |
| 18:11 | Berto> | are those files from xmltv people or mythtv people? |
| 18:12 | mdz> | xmltv |
| 18:12 | mdz> | neither, really, but the URLs come from xmltv or the provider it uses |
| 18:13 | Berto> | mchou: i have 2.4.22, but mythtv not yet up and running |
| 18:14 | Berto> | how many times is this filldatabase thing gonna check for schedules.. jeez |
| 18:14 | SarahEmm> | Berto: it fetches data for each channel for each day.. at least tv_grab_na |
| 18:14 | SarahEmm> | i just run it at 0100 every day |
| 18:14 | Berto> | SarahEmm: oh really what if i never run it again? |
| 18:14 | Berto> | i won't know whats on every channel? |
| 18:15 | mchou> | Berto, are you planning to use a bttv card? |
| 18:15 | Berto> | mchou: yes i am |
| 18:15 | mchou> | Berto: what distro's kernel? |
| 18:15 | Berto> | SarahEmm: oh its checking for like every day... it's getting data for dec 15 now. |
| 18:15 | Berto> | mchou: mandrake 2.4.22-10mdk |
| 18:16 | Berto> | SarahEmm: is this going to go like a month in advance or what? i kinda wanna test if the TV works :) |
| 18:16 | pcjabber> | it will probably get for up to ten days |
| 18:16 | * | Berto is antsy |
| 18:16 | pcjabber> | *up to* |
| 18:16 | Berto> | cool |
| 18:16 | Berto> | i'll vacuum the room in the meantime |
| 18:16 | pcjabber> | sometimes 14 days, if you are lucky |
| 18:16 | pcjabber> | on a broadband (roadrunner cable) connection, it takes me ~30mins |
| 18:16 | Berto> | lucky? no way, i wnna watch NOW |
| 18:16 | Berto> | we switched from roadrunner to wide open west.. cheaper |
| 18:16 | SarahEmm> | Berto: by default it pulls in 10 days i think. |
| 18:16 | warlord | is now known as warlord-afk |
| 18:17 | SarahEmm> | Berto: if you want to keep it up to date, you need to run it regularly. |
| 18:17 | pcjabber> | run it in CRON |
| 18:17 | mchou> | Berto, OK, here's the scoop. I tried 2.4.23 last night, and mythtv backend keeps on crashing. I'm not really sure of what's going on, but I suspect it's due to bttv rewrite (9+) |
| 18:17 | pcjabber> | run it at least every week |
| 18:17 | pcjabber> | i run it every day, to make sure there are no last-minute sched changes |
| 18:17 | Berto> | mchou: try going back to 2.4.22? |
| 18:17 | pcjabber> | i run it at about 4AM |
| 18:17 | SarahEmm> | mchou: running the latest myth? |
| 18:17 | Berto> | yeah i'll do a weekly cron on it prolly |
| 18:18 | mchou> | SarahEmm: yes. 13, not from cvs |
| 18:18 | pcjabber> | make sure its at least weekly |
| 18:18 | pcjabber> | weekly is kinda pushing it |
| 18:18 | pcjabber> | but its ok |
| 18:18 | mchou> | Berto, are you at your linux machine now? |
| 18:18 | SarahEmm> | clear |
| 18:18 | SarahEmm> | oops. |
| 18:18 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 18:18 | pcjabber> | i do that *all* the time |
| 18:18 | pcjabber> | dont feel bad |
| 18:19 | * | SarahEmm runs it every night just to make sure everythign stays up to date.. no real disadvantage to running it daily that i can see, if you have an always-on connection |
| 18:19 | * | pcjabber does too |
| 18:19 | mchou> | Berto: can you do "dmesg | grep bttv" and tell me what bttv version is running? |
| 18:20 | Berto> | mchou: yeah and then ill be cleaning for a few mins |
| 18:20 | Berto> | mchou: i'll msg you it |
| 18:20 | mchou> | Berto: ok, thx. |
| 18:20 | Berto> | how do i open a window to someone |
| 18:20 | Berto> | hmm |
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| 18:25 | pcjabber> | dammit, i typed kill 1 instead of kill -1 |
| 18:25 | pcjabber> | with root priv. |
| 18:25 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 18:25 | warlord-afk> | OOPS |
| 18:25 | warlord-afk> | hate when that happens. |
| 18:25 | warlord-afk> | anyways, I'm off. TTYL |
| 18:25 | pcjabber> | i meant to HUP it |
| 18:26 | pcjabber> | how can i go about restarting the MySQL daemon without hupping it? |
| 18:26 | Berto> | wow its onto Dec 20 |
| 18:26 | pcjabber> | well, a reboot will do it =) |
| 18:26 | pcjabber> | heh |
| 18:26 | pcjabber> | cool |
| 18:29 | pcjabber> | why the <submit your own word> am i getting "Access denied for user root@192.168.1.10 (my fbsd server)" when i connect to the mysql on 192.168.1.104 (myth box) |
| 18:30 | sfr> | b/c you're root? |
| 18:30 | SarahEmm> | pcjabber: what cmdline? |
| 18:30 | pcjabber> | Sarah, what do you mean by what cmdline? |
| 18:30 | pcjabber> | what shell? |
| 18:31 | SarahEmm> | what are you typing to connect? |
| 18:31 | pcjabber> | ahh |
| 18:31 | pcjabber> | mysql -h 192.168.1.104 -u root -p |
| 18:31 | pcjabber> | then it prompt for pw |
| 18:31 | pcjabber> | and gives me the error |
| 18:31 | mikegrb> | and you are on the dbsd box typing this? |
| 18:31 | mikegrb> | er |
| 18:31 | mikegrb> | fbsd |
| 18:31 | Berto> | OK its done, but i can't watch TV -- can't connect to database. I thought i did the mysql setup, is there anything obvious i might be forgetting to do? |
| 18:31 | Berto> | 127.0.0.1:6543 |
| 18:31 | pcjabber> | yep |
| 18:32 | pcjabber> | did you start mysql ? |
| 18:32 | pcjabber> | Berto |
| 18:32 | pcjabber> | berto: and mythbackend? |
| 18:32 | Berto> | mysqld (pid 2347) is running... |
| 18:32 | Berto> | OHHh |
| 18:32 | pcjabber> | heh lol |
| 18:32 | Berto> | no one told me that |
| 18:32 | Berto> | haha |
| 18:32 | pcjabber> | do "mythbackend -d" |
| 18:32 | pcjabber> | that runs it as a Daemon |
| 18:32 | Berto> | it did -d by itself it seems |
| 18:33 | pcjabber> | mike, sarah |
| 18:33 | pcjabber> | I am now just using SSH so i can copypaste the error |
| 18:33 | SarahEmm> | that's weird. |
| 18:33 | pcjabber> | and am running as pcjabber as user on the bsd box |
| 18:33 | pcjabber> | -bash-2.05b$ mysql -h 192.168.1.104 -u root -p |
| 18:33 | pcjabber> | Enter password: |
| 18:33 | pcjabber> | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@192.168.1.10' (Using password: YES) |
| 18:33 | SarahEmm> | -h should tell it to connect to another host |
| 18:33 | SarahEmm> | ooh, wait, it is. |
| 18:34 | SarahEmm> | your access was denied, pcjabber. |
| 18:34 | SarahEmm> | some grant isn't set up right. |
| 18:34 | Berto> | WOW it works (kinda)... but all the signals its getting are crap. is there a tuner? i thought it should autotune it |
| 18:34 | pcjabber> | k im in the mysql client in the .104 (man, do i love puTTY) |
| 18:35 | pcjabber> | berto, did you go thru setup successfully? |
| 18:35 | Berto> | pcjabber: yeah, i can try again... i'm in north america, it got the channels... US-CABLE i assume... NTSC ? |
| 18:35 | pcjabber> | yep US-CABLe, NTSC |
| 18:36 | Berto> | :-( |
| 18:36 | pcjabber> | k hold on |
| 18:36 | pcjabber> | what are you getting thats bad? |
| 18:36 | Berto> | i'm gonna bring a real tv up here if my roommate is done wacking off |
| 18:36 | pcjabber> | sound, video, etc? |
| 18:36 | pcjabber> | lol |
| 18:36 | Berto> | pcjabber: its just wavy crap, no real video |
| 18:36 | pcjabber> | any sound? |
| 18:36 | Berto> | pcjabber: i dunno i have mp3s on, let me see |
| 18:36 | pcjabber> | no sound is easy to remedy |
| 18:37 | Berto> | no sound |
| 18:37 | pcjabber> | Sarah, what should i type |
| 18:37 | pcjabber> | in the mysql console to allow myself access? |
| 18:37 | Berto> | but no good video either... it displays the channel right ("NEWS WITH JIM DONOVAN" or whatever) |
| 18:37 | pcjabber> | hmm |
| 18:37 | pcjabber> | so no video on any channels? |
| 18:38 | Berto> | nope... just gray wavy stuff |
| 18:38 | Berto> | i can surf around and see if any of them are right |
| 18:38 | pcjabber> | k |
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| 18:39 | SarahEmm> | i can't help much right now, sorry pcjabber. i'm doing eight things at once |
| 18:39 | Berto> | pcjabber: some channels make loud buzz sound... so sound works. i'm having signal problems |
| 18:39 | Berto> | i'll get a regular tv bfeore i go on |
| 18:40 | pcjabber> | k sarah |
| 18:40 | pcjabber> | k berto |
| 18:41 | Berto> | pcjabber: yes, the cable up here works... so mythtv is getting crap signal on each channel. any docs on tuning or programs to do it? |
| 18:42 | sfr> | Berto: xawtv works with your tuner card? |
| 18:43 | pcjabber> | if xawtv doesnt work, then there is something wrong with your bttv setup |
| 18:44 | Berto> | ooh |
| 18:44 | Berto> | lets see once i plug back in |
| 18:44 | pcjabber> | k |
| 18:44 | Berto> | what makes xawtv so smart that mythtv isn't |
| 18:44 | pcjabber> | xawtv is just a simple TV player |
| 18:45 | Berto> | ooh in mandrake, the first time i ran xawtv, it brought up this config tool |
| 18:45 | Berto> | how can i reset it so that that config tool comes back |
| 18:46 | mchou> | Berto, what does your modules.conf say for bttv? make sure u got the right options there..... |
| 18:46 | Berto> | mchou: nothing :-( |
| 18:47 | Berto> | xawtv is getting a signal every now and then |
| 18:47 | mchou> | Berto: here's mine: |
| 18:47 | Berto> | i'm watching fox, i can see a capital one commercial going on |
| 18:47 | Berto> | but its terrible video |
| 18:47 | mchou> | options bttv radio=1 card=10 gbuffers=4 tuner=2 |
| 18:47 | sfr> | Berto: the cable is ok? |
| 18:47 | Berto> | sfr: the cable works on a regular tv 100% |
| 18:48 | Berto> | so i'm dealing with some other kind of problem |
| 18:48 | mchou> | this is for a hauppauge wintv dbx |
| 18:48 | Berto> | hmm xawtv is straightening it out a bit |
| 18:48 | mchou> | Berto: are you NTSC or PAL? |
| 18:48 | SarahEmm> | Berto: likely you have the wrong tuner or wrong ntsc/pal/band selected |
| 18:48 | Berto> | NTSC |
| 18:48 | Berto> | hmmm |
| 18:48 | SarahEmm> | Berto: and you set xaw to NTSC? |
| 18:48 | Berto> | tuner? |
| 18:48 | Berto> | yeah |
| 18:48 | SarahEmm> | and did you set xaw to us-cable? |
| 18:48 | SarahEmm> | (or whatever country-cable or -bcast) |
| 18:48 | Berto> | us-cable for regular cable |
| 18:49 | Berto> | right? |
| 18:49 | Berto> | OOH its working better |
| 18:49 | Berto> | kinda fuzzy |
| 18:49 | SarahEmm> | yeah, us-cable |
| 18:49 | Berto> | let me try other channels |
| 18:49 | mchou> | Berto, do you know what make and tuner is on your card? |
| 18:49 | Berto> | now blurry again. weird. |
| 18:49 | SarahEmm> | also, you likely need to specify the tuner you have when you load the module. |
| 18:49 | Berto> | mchou: i have a pinnacle systems PC TV Pro |
| 18:49 | Berto> | Studio Pro |
| 18:49 | Berto> | maybe i should look up some options |
| 18:49 | SarahEmm> | autodetect often doesn't work. |
| 18:49 | mchou> | Berto, yes, you need options. |
| 18:49 | SarahEmm> | check the card and tuner options for bttv and tuner modules |
| 18:50 | Berto> | ok thanks guys!!!! i'm CLOSE |
| 18:50 | sfr> | Berto: see the docs in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv for details |
| 18:50 | Berto> | sfr: good idea.. i was about to hit google and get frustrated |
| 18:50 | Berto> | haha |
| 18:51 | SarahEmm> | anyone here use nuvexport? |
| 18:51 | SarahEmm> | (or any other way to play files on a non-myth box? |
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| 18:53 | SarahEmm> | nuvexport seems reaaaally slow... |
| 18:54 | SarahEmm> | is there any way to play .nuv files without transcoding to plain MPEG4? |
| 18:54 | sfr> | not coming from a pvr250/350 card i guess? |
| 18:55 | pcjabber> | pvr cards do MPEG2 |
| 18:55 | SarahEmm> | nope. |
| 18:55 | pcjabber> | not MPEG4 |
| 18:55 | SarahEmm> | i don't have a PVR card. |
| 18:55 | SarahEmm> | i'm capturing using software MPEG4 |
| 18:55 | sfr> | well, a pvr card would be one solution to your problem :) |
| 18:56 | pcjabber> | Berto, you have to rtclick in XAWTV |
| 18:56 | * | Netslayer cheers, leaps, and jumps for joy as his new kernel builds successfully |
| 18:56 | pcjabber> | and select Capture mode: (the last one) |
| 18:56 | pcjabber> | instead of overlay |
| 18:56 | SarahEmm> | sfr: mythtv stores plain MPEG2 files for PVR cards, without any nuppelvideo? |
| 18:56 | pcjabber> | overlay is for PAL |
| 18:56 | pcjabber> | right sarah |
| 18:56 | SarahEmm> | ahh. |
| 18:56 | pcjabber> | just rename from .nuv to .mpg, and you have an MPG2 file |
| 18:56 | pcjabber> | =) |
| 18:57 | SarahEmm> | well, this works okay for me, other than not being able to play the files on other boxes.. |
| 18:57 | SarahEmm> | nuvexport should do it too, but it's taking like 1.5-2h to transcode a 30min program |
| 18:58 | sfr> | really? i once transcoded a mjpeg encoded show. took no more than maybe 30 min. |
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| 19:02 | mdz> | anyone interested in testing 0.13 debs? |
| 19:03 | sfr> | mdz: yeah, i can test them on my laptop |
| 19:04 | mdz> | sfr: I actually need backend testing |
| 19:04 | mdz> | since my backend is not unpacked yet |
| 19:04 | nchip> | grr. I just compiled from .tgz |
| 19:04 | nchip> | mdz: I can test thou.. I didn't configure it yet |
| 19:05 | mdz> | nchip: unstable? |
| 19:05 | nchip> | yes |
| 19:05 | sfr> | nchip: that'd be nice, wouldn't want to risk my db. |
| 19:06 | mdz> | nchip: http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/temp/mythtv-0.13 (uploading now) |
| 19:06 | mdz> | it'll be a few minutes |
| 19:06 | sfr> | mdz: with your packages, is it possible to 'take over' an already configured db? |
| 19:06 | mdz> | these are almost entirely untested; I test-installed the non-backend stuff and tested /usr/bin/mythtv to make sure it played |
| 19:07 | mdz> | but I don't have any capture hardware, so I can't go much farther than that |
| 19:07 | mdz> | sfr: yes |
| 19:07 | mdz> | you can either point it to your existing database, in which case it will use it, or give it another database name and it will create another one |
| 19:07 | nchip> | I have a dvb-t card, which seems almost supported |
| 19:08 | sfr> | mdz: ok |
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| 19:08 | Berto> | wow that was ugly |
| 19:08 | Berto> | all my modules stopped working... my modules.conf was terrible |
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| 19:17 | nchip> | mdz: that installed fine but bombed out on mythtv-setup with "Illegal instruction" |
| 19:17 | Berto> | hmmm i don't know hwat to do for tuner options in /etc/modules.conf |
| 19:18 | nchip> | mdz: My system is a via C3, which doesn't run properly -march=i686 .. |
| 19:19 | Octane> | i cant pick what o/s to run |
| 19:19 | Octane> | god damnit |
| 19:19 | Octane> | i have this new shiny beautiful box |
| 19:19 | Octane> | and i cant pick what o/s to run1 |
| 19:20 | Octane> | someone help me pick :( |
| 19:20 | Berto> | do you think if i specify the card in my modules.conf, then it will know which tuner to use? |
| 19:20 | Berto> | i'm gonna reboot and give it a shot |
| 19:20 | Berto> | Octane: mandrake :) |
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| 19:21 | sfr> | Octane: Debian |
| 19:22 | pahli_bar> | he said os: windows :) |
| 19:22 | nchip> | mdz: put the sources up and I'll try them tomorrow, I think I'll give up for tonight and go asleep |
| 19:22 | mdz> | nchip: ah, ok |
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| 19:26 | Berto> | WOWWWOW |
| 19:27 | Berto> | xawtv working by specifying right card |
| 19:27 | Berto> | its time for the myth |
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| 19:27 | sfr> | heh, some people are easy to impress |
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| 19:28 | Berto> | yeah but xawtv looks way better than myth for some reason |
| 19:29 | SarahEmm> | myth compresses then decompresses, remember, so you're seeing compressed video. |
| 19:29 | SarahEmm> | changing compression settings will help the quality |
| 19:29 | Berto> | even when WATCHING tv? |
| 19:29 | Berto> | hmm |
| 19:30 | Berto> | but its like offset too... xawtv was not |
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| 19:30 | sfr> | Berto: press p to see why |
| 19:30 | Berto> | sfr: ok will do |
| 19:30 | Berto> | hmm and sound wasn't working |
| 19:30 | Berto> | my tv card goes through line in |
| 19:30 | Berto> | but myth wants to do using PCM |
| 19:30 | Berto> | is that gonna fly? |
| 19:30 | paulc> | Hey...anyone have experience with burning DVDs from Myth MPEGs? I've tried and tried to get transcode and/or ffmpeg to work, but having a/v synch and/or other problems. |
| 19:31 | paulc> | I've heard avidemux2 is good... |
| 19:31 | sfr> | Berto: check again the settings in setup and maybe mythfrontend |
| 19:31 | Berto> | sfr: everything looks good in setup, NTSC US cable |
| 19:31 | Berto> | i'll try more |
| 19:31 | SarahEmm> | Berto: yes, it compresses/decompresses even when watching live TV, so you can pause it. |
| 19:31 | Berto> | SarahEmm: i see |
| 19:31 | SarahEmm> | anyone know a player that will play myth .nuv files without any transcoding? |
| 19:32 | sfr> | Berto: and did you set up line-in as the capture device with e.g. alsamixer |
| 19:35 | Berto> | sfr: no i didn't, i'll get that going. SOund works -- just needed to turn up line in after i rebooted with alsa. |
| 19:36 | Berto> | hmmm i'm still not sure about this compressing/decompressing stuff... it just looks like a bad signla |
| 19:36 | Berto> | like, i see double |
| 19:36 | Berto> | think its the compression or the setup? |
| 19:36 | Berto> | i can try recording a show, nd then watching |
| 19:36 | sfr> | the picture looks ok in xawtv now? |
| 19:38 | Berto> | yes, it recorded bad picture. xawtv channel 8 looks acceptable |
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| 19:40 | sfr> | bad like low-res or ghost images? |
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| 19:41 | Berto> | sfr: addendum - xawtv looks fine, but has now crashed me twice |
| 19:41 | Berto> | did you have any ideas on better video in mythtv? my setup is the same! us-cable ntsc |
| 19:43 | sfr> | Berto: if its low-res you can increase the capture resolution, if your cpu can handle the load. if only myth has the poor picture that suggests a wrong setup maybe |
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| 19:43 | SarahEmm> | or try changing compression settings for LiveTV |
| 19:43 | Berto> | sfr: its not resolution.. its like seeing double and bad image |
| 19:43 | Berto> | ok i can try that... in setup? |
| 19:44 | SarahEmm> | no, in frontend then setup |
| 19:44 | SarahEmm> | as opposed to mythsetup |
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| 19:48 | Berto> | lots of options |
| 19:48 | Berto> | software encoders i can go to high ? |
| 19:48 | SarahEmm> | huh? |
| 19:49 | Berto> | i wish i could screen shot this |
| 19:49 | Berto> | i don't think its encoding.. it looks like it's not on the right frequency or somethign :? |
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| 19:49 | SarahEmm> | you have selected NTSC and us-cable in myth? |
| 19:49 | Berto> | yes |
| 19:49 | Berto> | i should chagne to soemthing else and see what happens |
| 19:50 | sfr> | Berto: and you went through all the screens until Finish? |
| 19:50 | Berto> | LOL i closed mythtv, but the audio is still coming out :) |
| 19:51 | SarahEmm> | uhh |
| 19:51 | SarahEmm> | then you have your audio set up wrong. |
| 19:51 | Berto> | yup |
| 19:51 | Berto> | haha |
| 19:51 | Berto> | i just have line in cranked up |
| 19:51 | Berto> | i worryin about video first |
| 19:51 | SarahEmm> | you need line in all the way DOWN for playback. |
| 19:51 | SarahEmm> | grr, i can't make exported video from myth of anything close to usable quality =-/ |
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| 20:00 | Berto> | ooh |
| 20:01 | Berto> | now xawtv is crystal clear.. adjusted my cable input |
| 20:01 | Berto> | sound is working like i wanted too |
| 20:01 | Berto> | mythtv is now black and white and lagging a bit and choppy |
| 20:01 | Berto> | where are those settings? |
| 20:01 | sfr> | you switched to PAL for myth? |
| 20:01 | Berto> | no i don't want pal |
| 20:02 | Berto> | NTSC is what works well in xaw |
| 20:02 | Berto> | actually pal looks fine too |
| 20:02 | Berto> | or its just not listening to me |
| 20:03 | sfr> | huh? PAL and NTSC look quite different if used with the wrong signal |
| 20:03 | Berto> | thats what i was thinking -- xawtv isn't listenign to me when i change these options, heh |
| 20:04 | Berto> | there we go, pal looks black and white ish |
| 20:04 | Berto> | NTSC has good color cartoons.. heh |
| 20:05 | Berto> | i want NTSC closed caption too? |
| 20:05 | sfr> | if you are deaf and want subtitles |
| 20:06 | Berto> | lol... nope |
| 20:06 | Berto> | now with mythtv, sound is fuzzier, and color is terrible on these cartoon |
| 20:06 | Berto> | i duno what to do next |
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| 20:06 | Berto> | and chops once in a while |
| 20:07 | sfr> | Berto: " adjusted my cable input" <- probably myth also needs some fine-tuning of channels |
| 20:07 | Berto> | sfr: yeah! how do i do that? |
| 20:07 | Berto> | xawtv looks quite good... seattle and denver are tied 0 to 0 |
| 20:07 | Berto> | this rocks |
| 20:07 | Berto> | i'm gona bring my old school nintendo back |
| 20:08 | sfr> | no idea. never needed it |
| 20:08 | Berto> | i guess i could always use an emulator but that's no fun... i want square controllers |
| 20:08 | Berto> | ok i'll search |
| 20:08 | Berto> | unless someone knows how to fine tune |
| 20:08 | sfr> | check keys.txt |
| 20:08 | SarahEmm> | Berto: in xawtv you need to change channels once you reset the ntsc/pal and band settings. |
| 20:09 | Berto> | SarahEmm: yeah they look good now in xawtv |
| 20:10 | phar0e> | wasabi sfr? |
| 20:10 | sfr> | phar0e: ? |
| 20:11 | phar0e> | just saying hi |
| 20:11 | sfr> | oh, hi |
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| 20:17 | SarahEmm> | grrr, this shouldn't be this complicated =-/ |
| 20:18 | Berto> | bttv/v4l crashes me quite a bit |
| 20:18 | Berto> | sucks. |
| 20:19 | dopez> | Berto: mainboard with via chipset? |
| 20:19 | sfr> | Berto: crashing just by using it, not on rmmod/modprobe bttv? |
| 20:20 | SarahEmm> | lol, 90mb output file for a one minute video |
| 20:21 | Berto> | dopez: no, asus k7m motherboard |
| 20:22 | Berto> | with pinnacle systems pctv pro |
| 20:22 | Berto> | sfr: crashing when changing channels or whatever |
| 20:22 | sfr> | mdz: noticed mythfilldatabase --manual in 0.13 is broken? |
| 20:26 | dopez> | Berto: is does have a VIA 686A Southbridge, but i guess its not as bad as a 'pure' via chipset :) |
| 20:26 | Berto> | dopez: hmmm sorry :-/ :-) |
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| 20:32 | mchou> | Berto: can you do me a favor? " find /lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk -name 'zlib_inflate*' | xargs ls -al " |
| 20:32 | mchou> | I'm wondering why that module seems to have disappeared in the .22 kernel |
| 20:45 | SarahEmm> | bbiaf |
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| 21:01 | rkulagow> | chutt: are you here? |
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| 21:13 | Berto> | mchou: ok |
| 21:13 | Berto> | mchou: xargs ls -al just did an 'ls' in my current working directoryb |
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| 21:21 | SarahEmm> | i give up. i can't get anything to play .nuv as it is, and i can't get it to transcode with useful quality at less than 1MB/sec of disk usage |
| 21:26 | Berto> | SarahEmm: :-( |
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| 21:29 | mchou> | Berto, you still around?? |
| 21:29 | SarahEmm> | exporting in SVCD seems to process about one frame per second too... |
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| 21:41 | WkdLester> | hey is there anything I should know about upgrading from 0.12 to 0.13 or is is just a matter of recompiling? |
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| 21:51 | SarahEmm> | hmm, i can't give up that easilly. :P |
| 21:52 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:53 | SarahEmm> | SVCD *looks*.. well, it looks decent enough, but it's 20mb/min (larger than the original, which looks significantly better) and takes 15 minutes to transcode 1min of video |
| 21:54 | SarahEmm> | any idea why someone doesn't just write a .nuv codec for a major player? |
| 21:55 | dopez> | avidemux reads mythtv's nuv files, and can encode to vcd/svcd or avi's |
| 21:56 | SarahEmm> | hrm. maybe i'll try that then... |
| 21:57 | SarahEmm> | nuvexport's SVCD files are way desynched audio-video-wise |
| 21:57 | dopez> | works for me, but mpeg2 encoding isnt fast (i get 8-10fps on my p4 2.8, xvid gets over 25 fps tho) |
| 21:57 | dopez> | just make sure that you use pcm audio if your using a bttv card for capturing |
| 21:58 | SarahEmm> | okay.. |
| 21:58 | SarahEmm> | it seems like it would be easier to just write a module to make xine or mplayer or something read the .nuv tho. |
| 21:59 | dopez> | might be nice indeed |
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| 22:16 | SarahEmm> | gah |
| 22:16 | SarahEmm> | avidemux wants to install all kinds of dependencies and upgrade my X system |
| 22:16 | SarahEmm> | it's going to take forever =-/ |
| 22:17 | D-side> | at least you're not running gentoo. |
| 22:17 | SarahEmm> | yes i am. |
| 22:17 | D-side> | heh. i feel your pain. |
| 22:17 | D-side> | i'm upgrading to .13 now. checking to see if the dbs need updating. |
| 22:18 | SarahEmm> | avidemux is an X app? |
| 22:18 | D-side> | not that i was aware of. |
| 22:19 | SarahEmm> | well, it wants to install gtk and upgrade the whole XFree |
| 22:19 | D-side> | well, it does have a dependancy for xfree. |
| 22:19 | D-side> | and gtk, yeah. |
| 22:19 | SarahEmm> | yeah. |
| 22:19 | D-side> | check your ebuild for it. |
| 22:19 | SarahEmm> | alright, *now* i give up, for this week anyway. |
| 22:20 | D-side> | looks like you dont really have a choice. |
| 22:20 | D-side> | far too messy to pull that out. |
| 22:20 | D-side> | surely it wont take a week to compile that. :) |
| 22:20 | Chutt> | people choosing to run gentoo and complaining about compile times? how scandalous. |
| 22:21 | dopez> | heh |
| 22:21 | SarahEmm> | D-side: naw, but i'm away for a little while after tonite. |
| 22:21 | D-side> | hey, not complaints here. |
| 22:21 | SarahEmm> | wanted to take some stuff with me on my laptop, but i guess i can't.. |
| 22:21 | D-side> | i knew what i was getting into when i decided on it. |
| 22:21 | D-side> | i love the turnaround time on new releases. |
| 22:21 | D-side> | and since i'm a giant pussy, cvs isnt an option. |
| 22:22 | D-side> | i'll go RTFM, but are all module dbs now stored in the main mythtv "package", for lack of a better term? |
| 22:22 | Chutt> | no. |
| 22:22 | D-side> | "All of the plugins' database handling got moved into the source, so everything is automatic now." |
| 22:22 | D-side> | so i should just shut the hell up. |
| 22:23 | Chutt> | why would that imply that it moved into the main mythtv tarball? |
| 22:23 | D-side> | it doesnt in any way |
| 22:23 | Chutt> | allright then =) |
| 22:23 | D-side> | i made that assumption before i read the page. my bad. |
| 22:23 | D-side> | now lets go see if i set the pundit on fire. |
| 22:24 | Chutt> | where's tmk, these driver issues are starting to piss me off |
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| 22:29 | D-side> | bah. live tv doesnt work, but i'm sure its my fault. investigating. |
| 22:29 | SarahEmm> | how does nuppelvideo figure into everything anyway? is it like some sort of 'container' for MPEG4 or RT-JPEG video? |
| 22:29 | D-side> | wasnt he just saying last week how the new drivers are really stale? |
| 22:29 | D-side> | er. stable. |
| 22:29 | D-side> | though that amuses me. |
| 22:30 | Chutt> | it's a container format, yes. |
| 22:30 | SarahEmm> | so it shouldn't be hard to get the MPEG-4 data out of the 'container' should it? |
| 22:32 | D-side> | hm. keybindings page rules. |
| 22:33 | D-side> | bah. a reboot fixed it? that makes me mad. |
| 22:36 | mdz> | sfr: I haven't run 0.13 yet |
| 22:36 | D-side> | hm. |
| 22:36 | D-side> | wonder if i should attempt to make a gentoo ebuild for mythbrowser |
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| 22:39 | term> | hm is mythtv 0.13 unmasked yet |
| 22:39 | D-side> | no |
| 22:39 | term> | doh. |
| 22:39 | D-side> | dont be a pussy. |
| 22:40 | D-side> | just do it. |
| 22:40 | term> | it wants to emerge a ton of crap. |
| 22:40 | term> | so no. |
| 22:40 | D-side> | uh, didnt here. |
| 22:40 | term> | 20+ packages here. |
| 22:40 | term> | only about 6 that I actually want it to do |
| 22:40 | D-side> | unless by "ton of crap" you mean the modules, which i still dont see as being the case |
| 22:40 | term> | including some beta of portage |
| 22:40 | D-side> | er |
| 22:40 | D-side> | no, you're completely smoking crack. |
| 22:41 | term> | no, not really |
| 22:41 | D-side> | or at least, your gentoo box is. |
| 22:41 | term> | but thanks for inferring I can't read my screen |
| 22:41 | D-side> | hey i'm not telling you you cant read it. |
| 22:41 | term> | :P |
| 22:41 | D-side> | i'm telling you its displaying a ton of crack induced horseshit. or something. |
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| 22:41 | term> | it shouldn't be masked long |
| 22:41 | term> | either that or I'll get tired of waiting and copy it to my overlay and fix it. |
| 22:41 | term> | hm |
| 22:42 | D-side> | what packages did it want to put in? the only dep issues i had were particular modules requring one another, nearly cyclically. |
| 22:42 | term> | er |
| 22:42 | term> | why the hell does it depend on nvidia |
| 22:42 | D-side> | hah |
| 22:42 | term> | oh, nevermind, that's IUSE |
| 22:42 | D-side> | apparently nvidia will fill the virtual for gl |
| 22:42 | D-side> | which is asslike, but whatever. |
| 22:43 | term> | why is it dumb? |
| 22:43 | term> | it's faster than mesalib |
| 22:43 | D-side> | term: i had those kind of issues when moving from my athlon to my p4 |
| 22:43 | D-side> | term: if you have an nvidia card. |
| 22:43 | term> | yes, if you have a nvidia card. |
| 22:43 | D-side> | when you dont have an nv card, and it tells you it requires nvidia crap |
| 22:43 | D-side> | == dumb |
| 22:44 | mikegrb> | Chutt: the alert scroller doobie can be used as part of a mythalert container? ie for my email stuff makeing the subject scroll? |
| 22:44 | D-side> | i dont know what the hell happened to your box, but my emerge of all things .13 went flawlessly. |
| 22:44 | D-side> | mikegrb: sounds plausible. |
| 22:44 | term> | hm, wife really crashed mythmusic |
| 22:44 | D-side> | hah |
| 22:45 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 22:45 | term> | I had to manually kill everything. |
| 22:45 | mikegrb> | D-side: I think so |
| 22:45 | term> | all she was doing was playing regular mp3s :) |
| 22:45 | Chutt> | mikegrb, probably |
| 22:45 | mikegrb> | I was looking at it last night/this morning |
| 22:45 | Chutt> | give it a try |
| 22:45 | mikegrb> | heh right |
| 22:45 | mikegrb> | I didn't go to sleep last night |
| 22:45 | term> | D-side: it shouldn't tell you it requires it, according to what I saw in the ebuild. |
| 22:45 | mikegrb> | I'll try in the morning before working on the themes stuff |
| 22:46 | D-side> | term: i just moved my mp3s (8gb) into my music store. i'm going to go "scan for music" or whatever. |
| 22:46 | D-side> | lets see if the pundit explodes. afk |
| 22:46 | term> | heh |
| 22:54 | D-side> | actually |
| 22:54 | D-side> | it took it and smiled. |
| 22:54 | D-side> | everythings working great. woo. |
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| 22:57 | D-side> | they're also delicious. i had part of one for dinner at Fuddruckers. |
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