| --- | Log | opened Mon Dec 15 00:00:22 2003 |
| 00:02 | Netslayer> | i keep deleting "alias char-major-10-175 agpart" from my /etc/modules.conf but each reboot replaces it? how can i remove that? |
| 00:03 | billytwowilly> | are you using knoppmyth? |
| 00:04 | Netslayer> | no |
| 00:04 | billytwowilly> | because it generates your modules.conf at bootup from other files. |
| 00:04 | Netslayer> | gentoo |
| 00:04 | billytwowilly> | gentoo might do that as well. |
| 00:04 | Netslayer> | i can't figure out why x freezes the screen |
| 00:05 | Netslayer> | before i had "Option "NvAGP" "0"" in the XF86 i received "Failed to verify AGP usage" |
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| 00:05 | Netslayer> | thinking that might be it since i'm using a PCI card, but still doesn't work |
| 00:05 | warlord | is now known as warlord-afk |
| 00:47 | Chutt> | how come so many people are fucking up and mixing source + rpm installs and not realizing that they have to remove the rpm install first? |
| 00:47 | Netslayer> | ok using top I can see that that X is using 100% CPU err heh |
| 00:47 | Netslayer> | Chutt, heh |
| 00:48 | Chutt> | are people _really_ that new to linux that they don't know about the difference between stuff installed to /usr and stuff installed to /usr/local ? |
| 00:49 | billytwowilly> | Chutt: Linux is starting to go mainstream.. that means people like my mother (Who cries if she has to burn a cd by herself or print something) are starting to use it.. |
| 00:49 | Netslayer> | ya, it's not that obvious |
| 00:50 | Chutt> | aside from the tvformat db issue, pretty much every problem with people upgrading to 0.13 has been people mixing a source 0.13 install and a rpm 0.12 install |
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| 00:53 | Netslayer> | if only i could get this card to work err |
| 00:54 | Netslayer> | it looks like it's freezing starting x right as it's loading NV's 2d engine |
| 00:54 | Netslayer> | i'm switching cards, see if that works |
| 00:55 | phar0e> | Netslayer, random suggestion.. have you tried reverting back to an older version of nvidia's drivers? |
| 00:56 | Netslayer> | tried an older one already, and went up ya |
| 00:56 | Netslayer> | configured two gentoo machines the same up till now |
| 00:56 | Netslayer> | one has an AGP g4mx440 the other a pci, same xf86config, pci one blacks out the screen at startx then X locks on with 100% xpu |
| 00:56 | Netslayer> | cpu |
| 00:57 | Netslayer> | this pci card actually worked fine in my old myth box for almost a year, very odd |
| 01:04 | Netslayer> | typical the AGP card works |
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| 01:04 | Netslayer> | dang, what's up with my card.. something prob has to be setup for pci or something |
| 01:04 | phar0e> | have you browsed their forums? |
| 01:05 | Netslayer> | who's |
| 01:05 | phar0e> | nvnews I think |
| 01:05 | phar0e> | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 |
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| 01:24 | mdz_> | Chutt: a long time ago I added pre-installation checks to the debs to scream if it looked like the user was mixing a source and deb install |
| 01:24 | mdz_> | whoever does the RPMs would probably benefit from something similar |
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| 01:24 | mdz_> | it really cut down on the amount of mail I receive |
| 01:26 | Netslayer> | hmm it freezes right here "Using vt 7" that's what's outputted by startx verbose |
| 01:26 | Chutt> | that'd be nice |
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| 03:33 | hardwired> | 'llo |
| 03:34 | hardwired> | when i choose mpeg encoder card(pvr 250/350) in mythsetup, what's to put in the audio device field? it says /dev/dsp as default, but the mythtv guide wants me to use alsa |
| 03:35 | Chutt> | 'none' |
| 03:35 | hardwired> | thx |
| 03:47 | hardwired> | video root # ps acx|grep myth|wc -l |
| 03:47 | hardwired> | 11 |
| 03:48 | hardwired> | that many backend processes is ok? |
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| 03:53 | Chutt> | any reason it wouldn't be ok? |
| 03:54 | hardwired> | well, i am new to gentoo and it might be that i made it startup twice by accident. at best, the value of spare servers should be able to tune somewhere. |
| 03:54 | Chutt> | you can't start it twice |
| 03:55 | Chutt> | and it's threads, not processes |
| 03:55 | Chutt> | so it's not using any extra resources. |
| 03:56 | hardwired> | ok, good enough for me. |
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| 04:10 | Netslayer> | i shouldn |
| 04:11 | Netslayer> | i shouldn't have a problem emerging things like xmltv, then compiling mythtv from CVS right? aka it should all work in harmony |
| 04:14 | hardwired> | Netslayer: yes |
| 04:14 | hardwired> | Netslayer: as longs as you don't mix up dependencies, of course |
| 04:15 | hardwired> | Netslayer: but 0.13 myth in in portage already |
| 04:15 | Netslayer> | hmm hopefully not |
| 04:15 | Netslayer> | is it unmasked? |
| 04:15 | Netslayer> | i wouldn't mind using cvs, since i'm probably going to upgrade to it in a few weeks |
| 04:15 | hardwired> | mythtv-0.13-r1.ebuild |
| 04:15 | Netslayer> | i already emerged .12 just to auto do the dependencies, i'm planning on un emerging it then cvs'ing .13 |
| 04:16 | hardwired> | already one later than i have got. damnit :) |
| 04:16 | hardwired> | you can as well unmerge it and then merge mythtv-0.13-r1.ebuild |
| 04:16 | Netslayer> | cvs? |
| 04:17 | hardwired> | if you don't want to do bugtesting and such, i'd go with the ebuild, not cvs |
| 04:17 | hardwired> | unless of course they will introduce a feature you absolutely must have and then don't want to wait till 0.14 |
| 04:17 | Netslayer> | u think it would be that different? i mean all the dependencies should be covered by the emerge at first |
| 04:17 | Netslayer> | well it's like wait 3 months for a release heh |
| 04:18 | hardwired> | hmm, you have a point there :) |
| 04:18 | Netslayer> | but i might have to now, this is for the fam has to be stable |
| 04:19 | hardwired> | exactly, same here. once it will be working somewhat ok, i'll be staying with official releases |
| 04:20 | Netslayer> | i've been using cvs for almost a year now |
| 04:20 | Netslayer> | but i've reformatted and expanded (massively) |
| 04:22 | hardwired> | heh. i just started to use it. and it finally seems to be working with my pvr 350 and all kernel patches and additional drivers. |
| 04:22 | hardwired> | and tomorrow i'll pick up my sweet htpc case :_ |
| 04:23 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 04:23 | Netslayer> | nice card |
| 04:23 | hardwired> | yeh. |
| 04:23 | Netslayer> | i'm running all software cards here, have to conserve wireless bandwidth |
| 04:24 | hardwired> | question: what do i set the sound device to when setting up mythfrontend? it only offers me /dev/dsp and /dev/sound/dsp but the myth guide wants me to use alsa |
| 04:24 | Netslayer> | started this on thursday heh, my one machine corrupted itself after a kernel panic (after it was done compiling for 24hrs) so pissed heh |
| 04:25 | Netslayer> | that's a good q |
| 04:25 | Netslayer> | and i would like to know the answer also |
| 04:25 | Netslayer> | that's why i reformatted, alsa screwed my system up |
| 04:25 | hardwired> | i can still load the oss compatibility kernel modules *shrug* |
| 04:26 | hardwired> | i just started to use all that gentoo and linux stuff |
| 04:26 | Netslayer> | did u emerge alsa |
| 04:26 | Netslayer> | so u have oss modules for ur sound card? |
| 04:26 | hardwired> | yeh, i followed the guide on gentoo.org |
| 04:26 | Netslayer> | ya i'm just about to start that |
| 04:26 | hardwired> | yes... well, don't remember exactly, but it was simple |
| 04:27 | Netslayer> | i know the guide, looks good, ur talking about the official docs right on desktop whatever |
| 04:27 | Netslayer> | did ur sound work after u did that? |
| 04:27 | Netslayer> | aplay, etc |
| 04:27 | Netslayer> | i'll find out soon enough heh |
| 04:29 | hardwired> | it did work even without oss modules |
| 04:29 | hardwired> | but mythmusic didn't, probably for the reason above |
| 04:31 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 04:31 | Netslayer> | stupid alsa |
| 04:33 | * | Netslayer crosses his fingers for his new wireless init script |
| 04:34 | * | hardwired has cable internet, hehe |
| 04:35 | hardwired> | so the wireless router sits next to the htpc |
| 04:35 | Kreats> | don't suppose anyone can tell me how to disable scsi emulation on my dvd drive? I can't turn DMA on without doing this first apparently. |
| 04:35 | Kreats> | this is using knoppmyth btw |
| 04:36 | Kreats> | and another thing, ogle or xine for dvd playback.. which is the one to use? |
| 04:36 | hardwired> | maybe someone in #knoppmyth knows? |
| 04:37 | Kreats> | nope |
| 04:37 | Kreats> | me and a bot |
| 04:37 | * | hardwired favors mplayer to play everything |
| 04:37 | Kreats> | no dvd menus in mplayer |
| 04:37 | Kreats> | and some dvd's just don't play |
| 04:37 | hardwired> | hrm. that sucks |
| 04:39 | Kreats> | yea |
| 04:40 | Netslayer> | ogle is nice, i hear as i have yet to get my dvds to play in nux heh |
| 04:41 | Netslayer> | hope to solve that with gentoo |
| 04:41 | Netslayer> | ogle supports menus |
| 04:44 | Kreats> | yeah both xine and ogle do |
| 04:45 | Kreats> | got xine going atm, but lack of dma is making things chunk |
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| 04:58 | phar0e> | Hello, I am having problems with record priority.. I can't seem to figure it out |
| 05:00 | phar0e> | All programs are set to 0 by default, so I figured if my most popular show I set to 1.. if there are conflicts it will be recorded instead of the other program which defaults to 0? |
| 05:00 | igla> | have you checked that the cable is connected and the unit is powered on ? |
| 05:01 | hardwired> | hrm, mplayer + remote doesn't work yet |
| 05:01 | phar0e> | works for me |
| 05:01 | phar0e> | what is wrong hardwired? |
| 05:02 | phar0e> | my remote is special though, USB ATI Remote... doesn't use lirc |
| 05:02 | phar0e> | uses xmodmap |
| 05:05 | hardwired> | phar0e: dunno yet. i use the hauppauge remote, it works for myth but not yet for mplayer. i just pasted some configs i found on the net to .lircrc. i need to look into it a bit more |
| 05:05 | phar0e> | did you setup the input.conf for mplayer? |
| 05:06 | hardwired> | nope |
| 05:06 | hardwired> | ahw, i'll check that later |
| 05:07 | hardwired> | first to get a dvd running via myth. only works from the console so far |
| 05:07 | phar0e> | does mythvideo work? |
| 05:08 | hardwired> | via xv, not via ivtv. but ivtv works from the console, so it should'nt cause much trouble anymore |
| 05:17 | hardwired> | does mythfrontend write any logfiles? it just crashes when i try to use the video manager and then arrow-left |
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| 05:25 | hardwired> | aha. now dvd works as well |
| 05:26 | phar0e> | cool |
| 05:26 | phar0e> | I fixed my record priority also |
| 05:26 | igla> | do you have a picture of your set up hardwired ? |
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| 05:35 | hardwired> | igla: i don't have the htpc case yet, i'll get it tomorrow |
| 05:35 | hardwired> | i think... |
| 05:35 | hardwired> | phar0e: sweet |
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| 05:51 | hardwired> | question: what do i set the sound device to when setting up mythfrontend? it only offers me /dev/dsp and /dev/sound/dsp but the myth guide wants me to use alsa |
| 05:59 | hardwired> | hrm. a mailing list from may 03 says there is no configuration option yet and one has to set alsa manually in the db |
| 06:01 | hardwired> | ..and it works |
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| 06:22 | bLuETeK> | hi |
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| 06:27 | bLuETeK> | is MythTV compatible with Technisat Skystar2 Pci? |
| 06:28 | Peitolm> | mythtv isn't compatible with any cards per se, it does however know how to talk v4l :) |
| 06:28 | o_cee> | bLuETeK: DVB? |
| 06:28 | Peitolm> | so if the card is support by v4l, then myth can use it |
| 06:28 | bLuETeK> | yes DVB |
| 06:29 | bLuETeK> | I see |
| 06:29 | bLuETeK> | I've no experience using DVB and linux yet |
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| 06:30 | o_cee> | linuxtv.org if those drivers supports it myth does as well |
| 06:30 | o_cee> | hey thor_ |
| 06:30 | nchip> | a google for "Technisat Skystar2 Pci linux" says support for linux exists |
| 06:30 | bLuETeK> | google is the oracle :) |
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| 06:36 | sfr> | anyone knows what's next after changing a string to QObject::tr(...) for i18n? Just compile the thing to update the language files? |
| 06:37 | thor__> | I think you need a tr enry in the "translation file" .... look in ./i18n .... |
| 06:38 | sfr> | thor__: hi, the cpp file is already listed in there. |
| 06:38 | thor__> | ah ,ok |
| 06:40 | * | sfr waits for make to finish |
| 06:56 | sfr> | reading docs is always a good idea *g* |
| 06:56 | thor__> | heh |
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| 07:17 | hardwired> | hehe. no wonder my remote doesn't work if i didn't enable native lirc support |
| 07:18 | Racer> | You don't need native lirc |
| 07:19 | hardwired> | i know... but it was already working with 0.12 that way, so i want it again with 0.13 |
| 07:19 | Racer> | aha ok, i see, i often forget the option too in settings.pro |
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| 08:45 | sfr> | the language selection is borked. Instead of the language shortname like EN, DE it now stores the languages name in the db (Deutsch, English). So upon restart it doesn't find ..._deutsch.qm and falls back to english. |
| 08:48 | sfr> | more later, gotta prepare for the companys christmas party |
| 08:49 | sfr> | compare this |
| 08:49 | sfr> | | value | data | hostname |
| 08:49 | sfr> | | Language | DE | asterix | <-- old setting |
| 08:50 | sfr> | | Language | Deutsch | laptop <-- after changing the language with 0.13 |
| 08:51 | sfr> | Chutt: ^^ (just in case :)) |
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| 08:57 | sfr> | wtf is a homeslice? did this spammer dare to insult me? |
| 08:58 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:58 | mikegrb> | they shall now suffer the wrath of sfr |
| 08:59 | * | sfr kicks the spammer where he belongs to =Trash |
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| 11:43 | o_cee> | is PiP supposed to work with the 350 yet? |
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| 14:21 | o_cee> | anyone alive? |
| 14:22 | Chutt> | nope |
| 14:22 | o_cee> | need help setting a different tuner type on the new 350.. tuner.o only allows one type? |
| 14:22 | o_cee> | you know how to do that? |
| 14:22 | Chutt> | ivtv has a tuner option |
| 14:22 | o_cee> | it also only accepts one value |
| 14:23 | Chutt> | you have two ivtv cards with different tuners? |
| 14:23 | o_cee> | yeah |
| 14:23 | Chutt> | ah, well, nothing to do about that yet :p |
| 14:24 | o_cee> | no? heh. well. argh |
| 14:24 | o_cee> | one type 28 and one 29.. maybe the other one will work if i set both to 29.. |
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| 14:27 | o_cee> | like, warlord has 4 cards.. all with the same tuner then? heh.. |
| 14:27 | Chutt> | of course |
| 14:27 | o_cee> | what a pain in the ass :) |
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| 14:35 | Chutt> | mikegrb, so, you have php for me? =) |
| 14:37 | mikegrb> | yes I do |
| 14:37 | mikegrb> | it dosesn't do comments or the little new icon yet |
| 14:38 | Chutt> | that's fine |
| 14:38 | Chutt> | comments are a pain, really |
| 14:38 | Chutt> | since i do have to check them every now and then |
| 14:38 | mikegrb> | but I can't work on it more until wednesday |
| 14:38 | mikegrb> | okay one sec lemme make a tarball and add some comments to the config file |
| 14:39 | Chutt> | cool |
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| 14:50 | kvandivo_> | just have the comments sent to the -users in digest form every once and a while and they can be scanned for goodness |
| 14:51 | o_cee> | wonder if i could hardcode the tuner type values into the driver or something |
| 14:51 | kvandivo_> | granted, i say that, but don't really have much of a desire to write the code for that; so i'll just shut up |
| 14:52 | mikegrb> | Chutt: the format for themes.meta is theme name\nauthor\ndate added |
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| 14:57 | Chutt> | clicking on the image just goes to the directory? |
| 15:00 | mikegrb> | the image for the theme? |
| 15:00 | Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:00 | mikegrb> | there was a .htaccess in there which had mod_rewrite rules |
| 15:01 | mikegrb> | make /myththemes/visor/ point to /myththemes/view.php?theme=visor |
| 15:01 | Chutt> | ah |
| 15:01 | Chutt> | see, i didn't put it in /myththemes/ |
| 15:01 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:02 | mikegrb> | easy enough to fix in .htaccess |
| 15:03 | Chutt> | moved it to /myththemes/ |
| 15:04 | Chutt> | images don't work :p |
| 15:04 | mikegrb> | ? |
| 15:04 | mikegrb> | which ones |
| 15:05 | Chutt> | the main theme images |
| 15:05 | mikegrb> | hmm |
| 15:06 | * | mikegrb looks |
| 15:07 | Chutt> | well, hmm |
| 15:07 | Chutt> | mod_rewrite seems to not be working |
| 15:07 | mikegrb> | was just going to ask |
| 15:07 | mikegrb> | I can modify the files real quick to work without |
| 15:08 | Chutt> | it's apparently loaded |
| 15:08 | Chutt> | i'm just testing on my local machine here for now |
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| 15:09 | mikegrb> | right |
| 15:09 | mikegrb> | it uses a url for images that gets rewritten |
| 15:11 | mikegrb> | I'm leaving work now but will be home in about 20 minutes |
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| 15:17 | Chutt> | ah, there we go |
| 15:21 | Netslayer> | i thought people said that .13 ebuilds were out, i did an emerge sync and emerge -s mythtv, no new versions |
| 15:22 | o_cee> | (/me just realized that tveeprom might have showed me that there's a radio tuner on the first card, and no the second tuner on the second card... in that case it's probably the antenna cable that's bad to the second card).. |
| 15:22 | o_cee> | Netslayer: they're masked |
| 15:22 | Netslayer> | usually they show up don't they |
| 15:22 | o_cee> | read at gentoo.org how to emerge them anyway, and what masked packages are |
| 15:22 | o_cee> | they'll be tested a little first |
| 15:23 | o_cee> | until they are known to be "stable" <-- heh |
| 15:23 | Netslayer> | do u recommend cvs? |
| 15:23 | o_cee> | always using cvs |
| 15:23 | Netslayer> | i like cvs but this is my first with gentoo |
| 15:23 | Netslayer> | CVS should be about as stable as 13 right |
| 15:23 | o_cee> | haven't got packages setup (grabbing cvs throu emerge) just doing it normally |
| 15:23 | o_cee> | yeah, .13 should be fine |
| 15:24 | o_cee> | some large patches merged into cvs now.. haven't had any problems tho |
| 15:25 | Netslayer> | ur saying your emerging cvs? |
| 15:25 | Netslayer> | like doing it manually i take it |
| 15:25 | o_cee> | Chutt: saw you removed liquid.. i'll probably have time to fix gant the end of this week or something. cleanups, fixing a screenshot and some other stuff |
| 15:25 | o_cee> | Netslayer: no, i'm not using emerge to do cvs (it's possible tho) |
| 15:25 | o_cee> | using cvs update normally |
| 15:25 | Netslayer> | u use gentoo? |
| 15:26 | o_cee> | yeah |
| 15:26 | Netslayer> | did u emerge other dependencies first? |
| 15:26 | o_cee> | Linux dragon 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 #2 Tue Oct 14 14:50:25 CEST 2003 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 15:26 | o_cee> | yeah |
| 15:26 | o_cee> | only myth and ivtv i've got "manual" |
| 15:26 | Netslayer> | i did an emerge mythtv (.12) and i'm going to unemerge it so i have all the dependencies, then compile CVS, should be ok |
| 15:26 | o_cee> | probably |
| 15:27 | Netslayer> | nah all my cards are supported already i think.. all bttv software encoders |
| 15:27 | o_cee> | oh, great then :) |
| 15:27 | Netslayer> | just got ALSA working, i'm so happy |
| 15:27 | o_cee> | heh |
| 15:27 | Netslayer> | gentoo has been very good to me |
| 15:27 | o_cee> | me too actually |
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| 15:28 | o_cee> | guys.. look at the pictures at the top here (swedish forums, but look at the pics): http://www.dvdforum.nu/forum/index.asp?action=showthread&thread=96346&forum=6#new |
| 15:28 | o_cee> | is it real? supposed to be located in Ohio or something? |
| 15:28 | o_cee> | Cedar Point, Ohio |
| 15:28 | o_cee> | looks scary |
| 15:37 | hardwired> | y0. is there a way to implement an 'emergency remote button via remote'? i was thinking of running irexec seperatly, but maybe mythtv can execute external commands? |
| 15:37 | * | hardwired would NOT go on that ride |
| 15:39 | Chutt> | it's a rather nice ride |
| 15:40 | Netslayer> | o_cee, ur the one working on that new theme right? is it in cvs |
| 15:47 | dja> | chutt - when did it open? (I haven't made it up to Cedar Point in 2 or 3 years :-( |
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| 15:49 | Netslayer> | is xmltv 5.23 still working? |
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| 16:01 | o_cee> | Netslayer: gant, yes, cvs not yet, soon probably |
| 16:02 | Netslayer> | does it not work with .13 right now? |
| 16:02 | o_cee> | .13 should work |
| 16:03 | Netslayer> | u have a link? |
| 16:03 | Netslayer> | in gentoo is it a necessity to have mysql support in qt, i thought i did that.. don't know why qpkg isn't showing it |
| 16:05 | hardwired> | in qt? can't imaginre why |
| 16:05 | Netslayer> | nm, using wrong package, it's etcat -u qt, and i have mysql listed :-) |
| 16:05 | Netslayer> | the docs state it needs it |
| 16:05 | mdz_> | hardwired: all of the database access is done through Qt |
| 16:06 | hardwired> | ohh, i misread that. |
| 16:07 | hardwired> | i read something like 'in gentoo, is mysql a dependency for qt' |
| 16:10 | Netslayer> | in gentoo i don't have /usr/lib/qt3, all this path info is not gisting with my install |
| 16:12 | Netslayer> | is cvs somewhat stable today? anyone try it |
| 16:13 | mikegrb> | Chutt: working then? |
| 16:16 | Netslayer> | native lirc means no more irxevent right |
| 16:17 | mikegrb> | Netslayer: yes |
| 16:17 | Netslayer> | do i also need lirc_libs = -llirc_client uncommnented? |
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| 16:23 | Chutt> | mikegrb, yeah |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | :) |
| 16:24 | Chutt> | mikegrb, i'd really like download counts somewhere =) |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | how's it look, any requests? |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | ahh |
| 16:24 | Chutt> | and, well, the ability to actually download the theme |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | I didn't put that in |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | hehehehe |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | shoot |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | totally forgot |
| 16:24 | hardwired> | err, how to scroll back up in the console again? |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | that is funny stuff |
| 16:24 | hardwired> | ah, nevermind |
| 16:24 | mikegrb> | I will get that done tonight |
| 16:25 | mikegrb> | sorry about that chutt |
| 16:25 | mikegrb> | other then that, how's it look? |
| 16:25 | Chutt> | looks good |
| 16:25 | Chutt> | i think i'd prefer a version that didn't do the mod_rewrite stuff, though |
| 16:25 | mikegrb> | okay |
| 16:25 | mikegrb> | will do |
| 16:25 | Chutt> | i'm thinking i may try to integrate it more with phpnuke |
| 16:25 | Chutt> | ie, use their header / footer stuff |
| 16:25 | mikegrb> | makes sense |
| 16:26 | Chutt> | and i'm not sure if the mod_rewrite will fuck with the existing module system |
| 16:26 | mikegrb> | gotcha |
| 16:26 | Chutt> | a version number in the info |
| 16:26 | Chutt> | as well as a versions of myth compatible with this |
| 16:26 | Chutt> | would be cool too |
| 16:27 | mikegrb> | that is easy to add to the theme.meta |
| 16:27 | mikegrb> | I'll make that the next line |
| 16:27 | mikegrb> | and download count will be the line after that? |
| 16:27 | Chutt> | well |
| 16:27 | Chutt> | modifying the files every download will be a pain |
| 16:28 | mikegrb> | so sql |
| 16:28 | Chutt> | needs to be easy/quick so it doesn't load the machine too much |
| 16:28 | mikegrb> | right |
| 16:28 | mikegrb> | and a query can say add one rather then getting the number adding one and updating the row |
| 16:29 | Chutt> | yup |
| 16:32 | Netslayer> | guess this means i need lirc installed "../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.13.so: undefined reference to `lirc_freeconfig'" |
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| 16:32 | Chutt> | if you're going to compile with native lirc support, yes, you need lirc installed. |
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| 16:34 | * | grogan longs for something better than lirc |
| 16:35 | grogan> | wish I were a good enough programmer to write a replacement myself |
| 16:35 | Netslayer> | odd i have lirc installed (emerge lirc) 6.6-rc1 and compiling mythtv still dies at that error |
| 16:36 | Netslayer> | confusing packages with source again? |
| 16:36 | Chutt> | are you linking to the lirc library? |
| 16:36 | Netslayer> | ? um |
| 16:37 | Netslayer> | i just did emerge lirc, modprobe lirc_serial, downloaded myth cvs, and uncommented the first native lirc line |
| 16:37 | Netslayer> | do i need the second line as well? |
| 16:37 | Chutt> | why would you think you wouldn't need it? |
| 16:37 | Netslayer> | :-) |
| 16:39 | mikegrb> | heh |
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| 16:43 | knight-> | heh |
| 16:43 | hardwired> | Netslayer: is the lirc that comes with gentoo the right version? |
| 16:43 | knight-> | Chutt, did you see my response to your myth-dev regarding automatic theme install? |
| 16:44 | Netslayer> | 0.6.6-r1 |
| 16:44 | hardwired> | i had to use a patched vanilla 2.4.22 kernel and compile lirc cvs, works like a charm |
| 16:44 | hardwired> | 0.7.0pre2 |
| 16:44 | Netslayer> | why did u need a patched kernel? |
| 16:44 | knight-> | i'm using 0.7.0pre2 with 2.6.0, works fine |
| 16:45 | hardwired> | maybe you just need that version for the hauppauge remote. but i HAD to use that |
| 16:45 | hardwired> | yeh, 2.6.0 does not need to be patched anymore |
| 16:45 | Netslayer> | i haven't fiddled with the lirc portion yet on this install, waiting for myth to build |
| 16:45 | Netslayer> | i'm running ck sourced 2.4.23 |
| 16:45 | Netslayer> | on both machines |
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| 16:51 | grogan> | hey.. anyone have any ideas for automatically changing channels on two time warner dtv set-top boxes? |
| 16:51 | hardwired> | nite |
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| 16:51 | grogan> | I'm trying to make use of the finicky usb HID interface... |
| 16:52 | Crib> | how do you apply patches that are .diff files |
| 16:54 | Netslayer> | i sense a problem |
| 16:54 | Netslayer> | hmm, it didn't crash :-) |
| 16:55 | duende> | Anyone know if it's possible to seperate the mythtv programming guide so it can be used for other purposes? |
| 16:55 | Netslayer> | yippy it compiled |
| 16:59 | Netslayer> | howto 6 - mysql - initial import instructions for Gentoo aren't right i don't think i have no "mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql" /database dir there |
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| 17:01 | Chutt> | knight, yeah, haven't had time to respond |
| 17:01 | Chutt> | i've been busy with my one line responses to silly people on the lists :p |
| 17:01 | Chutt> | duende, run 'mythepg' |
| 17:03 | Netslayer> | do i even need mysql running on the non master backend machine? it's running a remote frontend and slave backend |
| 17:03 | nchip> | I don't think so |
| 17:04 | nchip> | atleast the backend asks where the mysql database is |
| 17:09 | kvandivo_> | 'a' mysql needs to be running on some machine that is accessible by whatever front and backend machines you wish to use. |
| 17:09 | Netslayer> | that's what i thought |
| 17:11 | racer32> | ... |
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| 17:13 | Dirus> | anyone know if it would be possible to do realtime mpeg4? |
| 17:14 | Dirus> | trying to decide if I should get a cheaper capture card and upgrade the cpu (currently 800 on said box) or just get a capture card with mpeg2 (such as pvr 250/350) |
| 17:14 | Netslayer> | i did a emerge lirc, but yet i have no /dev/lirc is that right? |
| 17:14 | Netslayer> | i do realtime mpeg4 |
| 17:14 | Dirus> | for the price of the pvr 250 I can have a fairly modern cpu |
| 17:15 | Dirus> | Netslayer what cpu are you using? |
| 17:15 | Netslayer> | 2400xp for backend, but the other slave backend is going to be running 1800xp |
| 17:16 | Netslayer> | if u want full 640x480 with dvd picture quality u pretty much need over 2ghz, the 1800 peaks out for me |
| 17:16 | Dirus> | have you tried doing realtime mpeg4 on the 1800? |
| 17:16 | Netslayer> | a little, i'm building that machine right now |
| 17:16 | Netslayer> | so u guys with gentoo installed who emerged lirc, do u have a /dev/lirc device? |
| 17:16 | Chutt> | um |
| 17:17 | Chutt> | an 1800+ is plenty fast enough. |
| 17:17 | Dirus> | so you think anything over athlon 2000 would be able to do realtime mpeg4 at 640x480? |
| 17:17 | Netslayer> | i would say totaly |
| 17:17 | Dirus> | (and I'd prefer to get 640x480 rather than 480x480) |
| 17:18 | Dirus> | so is the capture quality of the pvr 250/350 better than that of a generic 878? |
| 17:18 | Netslayer> | hmm |
| 17:18 | Chutt> | yes. |
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| 17:18 | Netslayer> | ya |
| 17:19 | Netslayer> | i have to try that 350 sometime for tv out |
| 17:19 | Netslayer> | my dad has a 250, should put in one of these boxs |
| 17:19 | Dirus> | is there a high quality capture card without built in mpeg1/2 compression? something of equal quality less than $100 |
| 17:20 | Netslayer> | wintv 401 dbx |
| 17:20 | Netslayer> | that's what i use, works great |
| 17:20 | Netslayer> | i got it on ebay for 30 bucks |
| 17:20 | Netslayer> | svid and tuner in |
| 17:20 | Dirus> | that would be idea then, because I'd rather upgrade the cpu and get a cheap card than get an expensive card but still have duron 800 |
| 17:20 | Netslayer> | they for around 80 in stores or something |
| 17:21 | Netslayer> | +go |
| 17:21 | Dirus> | I'll have to wait till after xmas to get anything on ebay since it seems to be driving the prices up |
| 17:32 | o_cee> | very strange.. got the second pvr working, but it records without sound.. hmm |
| 17:32 | Netslayer> | in setup, does it usually take a long time to get channel list..been here for 10min |
| 17:34 | jeffpc> | what does it mean when mythfrontend says it is processing a recording? |
| 17:34 | jeffpc> | (ie. that hammer icon) |
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| 17:36 | Netslayer> | it hasn't done commercial flagging yet, or it's working on it now |
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| 17:36 | jeffpc> | ok, but it doesn't really affect anything, right? |
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| 17:36 | jeffpc> | ie, nuvexport |
| 17:36 | o_cee> | you probably want to wait |
| 17:36 | Netslayer> | no |
| 17:37 | o_cee> | no? aight, haven't got comercial flaggin |
| 17:37 | jeffpc> | can I stop it from processing it? I already made a cutlist by hand |
| 17:37 | Netslayer> | dang it's like frozen at "getting channel list, be patient..." in setup, no int activity |
| 17:38 | o_cee> | Netslayer: alt+tab and see what's going on? it's probably in a window |
| 17:38 | o_cee> | of its own |
| 17:38 | Netslayer> | ya that's what the window shows |
| 17:38 | Netslayer> | i just killed it, im' going to upgrade to .25 xmltv |
| 17:40 | o_cee> | probably a good idea |
| 17:41 | Netslayer> | k and i play the waiting game again |
| 17:43 | Netslayer> | well at least there is some net activity |
| 17:43 | jeffpc> | hmmmm....nuvexport dies after waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos... |
| 17:43 | Netslayer> | backend running? |
| 17:43 | jeffpc> | yeah...but let me check anyway |
| 17:44 | Netslayer> | search list, i've had that before just forgot what caused it |
| 17:45 | jeffpc> | ok, it was running, but I restarted it anyway.... |
| 17:45 | jeffpc> | nothing changed |
| 17:45 | jeffpc> | 2003-12-15 17:44:25 Transcoding from /home/mythtv//1041_20031214140000_20031214150000.nuv to /home/mythtv//1041_20031214140000_20031214150000.nuv.tmp |
| 17:45 | jeffpc> | 2003-12-15 17:44:25 Transcoding /home/mythtv//1041_20031214140000_20031214150000.nuv aborted because of cutlist update |
| 17:45 | jeffpc> | Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos. |
| 17:45 | jeffpc> | I get about 25 of those waitings... |
| 17:45 | jeffpc> | Waited too long for mythtranscode to create its fifos. Please try again. |
| 17:46 | Netslayer> | search the list |
| 17:46 | jeffpc> | ok... |
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| 17:48 | jeffpc> | found this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=95190;search_string=nuvexport%20transcode;guest=1801094&t=search_engine#95190 |
| 17:48 | jeffpc> | exactly the same here |
| 17:52 | Netslayer> | why would i get permission denied from a backend run as a user, to access v4l devices /dev/v4l.. |
| 17:52 | Netslayer> | do i have to run the backend as root? |
| 17:52 | duende> | is your user a member of the video group? |
| 17:53 | Netslayer> | prob not |
| 17:53 | jeffpc> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=84224;search_string=nuvexport%20transcode;guest=1801094&t=search_engine#84224 |
| 17:53 | jeffpc> | ? |
| 17:53 | Netslayer> | how would i simply do that |
| 17:53 | jeffpc> | Netslayer: that's it? |
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| 17:53 | duende> | Netslayer, well, *I* would just open /etc/group and add the username at the end of the line for video, but i'm sure there's a nicer way to do it |
| 17:53 | Netslayer> | hmm, not what i did, u running a new version of myth? nuvexport might not be working |
| 17:54 | Netslayer> | duende, whatever works |
| 17:54 | jeffpc> | 0.13 and the latest nuvexport |
| 17:54 | duende> | yeah, do that, and log your user out and back in |
| 17:54 | TheAsp> | Has the scheduler changed to prefer shows after midnight or something? It seems to want to record family guy at 2:00am tomorrow instead of 10:00pm tonight |
| 17:54 | Netslayer> | like video::27:root:user? |
| 17:54 | Netslayer> | it was video::27:root |
| 17:54 | duende> | , |
| 17:55 | duende> | video::27:root,user |
| 17:55 | TheAsp> | Netslayer: root,user |
| 17:55 | Netslayer> | k |
| 17:56 | Netslayer> | i'm rebooting |
| 17:56 | TheAsp> | why? |
| 17:57 | Netslayer> | just to make sure..been tweaking things |
| 17:57 | Netslayer> | also have to setup the raid on here |
| 17:57 | Netslayer> | and apache, what fun |
| 17:57 | Netslayer> | and my fonts in myth are all un antialised and stuff, it looks terribel |
| 17:58 | Netslayer> | alright here goes |
| 17:58 | jeffpc> | ok, can I tell the front-end to rip out those commerecials? |
| 17:58 | Netslayer> | nice it outputs what cvs date it came from, spiffy |
| 17:58 | Netslayer> | not physically |
| 17:59 | Netslayer> | it wil just flag em, u cna set it to auto jump when its playing |
| 17:59 | jeffpc> | that sucks, it would save a lot of space... |
| 17:59 | TheAsp> | jeffpc: i beleive it respects your cutlist when you transcode it, but not sure |
| 17:59 | Netslayer> | it's alive, it's alive |
| 17:59 | Netslayer> | mohahh.. |
| 18:00 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 18:00 | jeffpc> | MythTV is a HUGE app...a lovable one too |
| 18:03 | duende> | is there such thing as a converter that will convert s-video to the plug that a cable uses to a tv? I wanna setup tv-out, but my TV only has a plug for headphones and plug for cable |
| 18:03 | sfr> | cable == Antenna? |
| 18:03 | duende> | yeah |
| 18:03 | duende> | i guess that's it |
| 18:04 | duende> | i want to run mythtv on just my tv only |
| 18:04 | nchip> | mdz_: are you planning to package mythweb? |
| 18:05 | sfr> | duende: time to buy a new TV. I'm nott sure such converters exist, can't you use your VCR? |
| 18:05 | nchip> | hmm. it just seems php files |
| 18:05 | TheAsp> | duende: you can get those |
| 18:05 | TheAsp> | duende: check out radio shack |
| 18:06 | TheAsp> | duende: svideo/composite to cable, you may even find one that does audio too |
| 18:06 | duende> | sfr: i don't have a vcr |
| 18:06 | duende> | TheAsp, that would be nice |
| 18:06 | duende> | not sure how i would set the audio up tho |
| 18:06 | duende> | i guess my computer speakers |
| 18:06 | TheAsp> | audio out from your soundcard |
| 18:06 | jeffpc> | hmmm....without the cutlist on, it works, but with it, nuvexport explodes.... |
| 18:06 | TheAsp> | heh |
| 18:06 | nchip> | amazingly, mythweb php code looks well done |
| 18:06 | TheAsp> | that sucks. |
| 18:07 | sfr> | duende: i have a similar tv, but can use my VCR to connect the tv-out cable. |
| 18:07 | duende> | yeah, i can see that |
| 18:07 | duende> | i have no vcr tho |
| 18:07 | TheAsp> | duende: you more then likly wont find one that does stereo |
| 18:08 | duende> | sad |
| 18:08 | duende> | well, i'm not worried about audio anyways |
| 18:08 | duende> | well, i'll have a look at radio shack tomorrow |
| 18:12 | mdz_> | nchip: hmm? |
| 18:13 | mdz_> | nchip: I've had mythweb packages for almost as long as I've had mythtv packages |
| 18:13 | nchip> | nghht |
| 18:14 | nchip> | that's under binary-all, ofcourse |
| 18:14 | * | nchip slaps myself |
| 18:14 | Netslayer> | dang all i get is green and a static weird. i have svideo connected, and i've gone through the config a few times and verified it, very odd |
| 18:15 | Netslayer> | emerging xawtv, see if that works first |
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| 18:20 | sfr> | rkulagow: you here? |
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| 18:23 | Crib> | does anyone run bttv drivers think they can help me out |
| 18:23 | Netslayer> | perhaps someone here ya |
| 18:23 | duende> | Crib, what's the problem? |
| 18:25 | Crib> | duende-new install of gentoo - to build a pvr with mythtv and i'm just really confused about this bttv thing |
| 18:25 | duende> | Crib, okay, what part are confused about? |
| 18:25 | Crib> | i have an 878 card which is supported, but i found the bttv docs to be well...lacking |
| 18:26 | TheAsp> | Crib: and? |
| 18:26 | duende> | Crib, well, most times, when you just modprobe -v bttv, it will autodetect your card for you. You should try that, and check the output of dmesg |
| 18:26 | Crib> | i'm getting modprobe: Can't locate module bttv |
| 18:27 | knight-> | <Chutt> i've been busy with my one line responses to silly people on the lists |
| 18:27 | knight-> | :p |
| 18:27 | knight-> | chutt, understood :) |
| 18:27 | duende> | Crib, okay, so you don't have bttv compiled as a module in your kernel |
| 18:27 | Crib> | duende...should it be available as a module automatically? |
| 18:27 | duende> | Crib, no, not usually |
| 18:27 | Crib> | like if i do make menuconfig i don't find it as an option |
| 18:27 | Crib> | right |
| 18:27 | duende> | Crib, are you running the 2.4 series kernel? |
| 18:28 | Crib> | ok so i'm reading here: http://bytesex.org/bttv/ |
| 18:28 | Crib> | that since i have the 2.4.22 kernel that i should use bttv 0.7.x |
| 18:28 | duende> | Crib, check out this section of a guide I wrote, it should tell you where to find it: http://www.linuxhelp.ca/guides/tvtuner/#kernel |
| 18:29 | Crib> | duende: *reading |
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| 18:30 | duende> | Crib, ignore my mentions of the Winfast tvcard, themajority of the guide is specific to Winfast tuners |
| 18:35 | Crib> | duende: i'm in my menuconfig now. 2 issues |
| 18:36 | Crib> | 1. there is an option under video4linux that says bt848 support, whereas i have the bt878 |
| 18:36 | Crib> | 2. I can't find the 'character devices' section anywhere in the menuconfig |
| 18:36 | duende> | Crib, okay, give me a sec. what tv tuner do you have? |
| 18:37 | Crib> | hauppage wintv card with the 878 chipset |
| 18:38 | duende> | hrm |
| 18:38 | duende> | i never noticed that before |
| 18:38 | Crib> | ? |
| 18:38 | duende> | my card is BT878 too, and that's what i have chosen in my config |
| 18:38 | duende> | bttv0: using: BT878(Leadtek WinFast 2000/ W) [card=34,autodetected] |
| 18:38 | Crib> | great guide, btw, VERY readable! |
| 18:38 | duende> | tnx |
| 18:38 | duende> | tuner: probing bt848 #0 i2c adapter [id=0x10005] |
| 18:38 | duende> | try it anyways |
| 18:39 | duende> | works for me |
| 18:39 | duende> | :) |
| 18:39 | Crib> | ok, that's issue #1 ;) |
| 18:39 | Crib> | what about 2? |
| 18:39 | duende> | In my menuconfig for 2.4.20, character devices are right above Multimedia Devices |
| 18:40 | Crib> | found it....sorry i think i have a learning disability that prevents me from interacting with ncurses corectly |
| 18:40 | duende> | i love ncurses |
| 18:40 | duende> | 2.4.22 must be masked is it? |
| 18:40 | duende> | i should upgrade |
| 18:41 | duende> | Anyways, compile your kernel and modules with that, and add "bttv" to your /etc/modules.autoload |
| 18:41 | Netslayer> | how do u get btaudio to work? i have bttv working sorda modprobe bttv is fine, and i think it works. but i only have /dev/dsp |
| 18:42 | duende> | i don't know, i've never had a need to use it |
| 18:42 | Crib> | duende: I'm recompiling the kernel now |
| 18:42 | Crib> | duende: thanks |
| 18:43 | Netslayer> | think it might have to be added to that file /etc/modules.d/alsa |
| 18:43 | Netslayer> | not sure |
| 18:43 | duende> | really? |
| 18:45 | Netslayer> | hello modprobe btaudio |
| 18:45 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 18:47 | Netslayer> | dang it just registered new dsp1 and dsp2 but aplay /dev/dsp1 and 2 don't play anything |
| 18:47 | duende> | sound isn't working for you? |
| 18:47 | Netslayer> | soundcard is yes |
| 18:48 | Netslayer> | modprobed btaudio and it created dev1 and 2 |
| 18:48 | Netslayer> | dsp1 is digital, dsp2 is analog |
| 18:48 | Netslayer> | dmesg states btaudio:buffer overrun |
| 18:48 | Netslayer> | for each time i go aplay |
| 18:49 | Netslayer> | i should be able to playback from dsp1/2 from aplay right |
| 18:50 | Netslayer> | See contrib/example.modules.conf.for.btaudio for an example file on how to configure btaudio |
| 18:50 | Netslayer> | ya that's still there heh...where did that go |
| 18:53 | duende> | Does mythtv still use irxevent, or does mythfrontend take the commands now? |
| 18:54 | Netslayer> | i think that is not needed if u compile with native lirc in settings.pro |
| 18:54 | ananke> | duende : i think mythtv has native support now, like Netslayer said |
| 18:54 | duende> | excellent |
| 18:54 | duende> | well, i emerged mythtv with 'lirc' in my USE="" |
| 18:54 | duende> | so, hopefully that did it |
| 19:00 | duende> | hrm, why is myth looking in ~/.mythtv/lircrc for the lirc config? |
| 19:02 | Crib> | duende: i've recompiled and i'ts bitching that I didn't compile the kernel with DEVFS support. Do you guys know what that is? |
| 19:02 | duende> | i know what it is |
| 19:03 | duende> | gentoo right? |
| 19:03 | Crib> | yeah, do i need it |
| 19:03 | duende> | what's bitch about it? |
| 19:03 | TheAsp> | devfs rules. |
| 19:03 | duende> | ack |
| 19:04 | Crib> | i have no idea what it is - it says i need it |
| 19:04 | duende> | File systems -> /dev file system support (Y) |
| 19:04 | Crib> | or am "supposed" to have it...but i don't want it if it does nothing |
| 19:04 | TheAsp> | and these udev guys will have to pry devfs from my cold dead hands. :P |
| 19:04 | duende> | File systems -> Automatically mount at boot (Y) |
| 19:04 | TheAsp> | Crib: it's a fs for /dev |
| 19:04 | TheAsp> | Crib: devices are only created when you have something that will implement it |
| 19:04 | duende> | TheAsp, yeah, it's funny that devfs is getting phased out before it was ever really phased in |
| 19:05 | TheAsp> | duende: yeah, for such a crappy idea :P |
| 19:05 | Crib> | stellar |
| 19:05 | duende> | indeed |
| 19:05 | duende> | TheAsp, what's udev? |
| 19:06 | TheAsp> | udev: when a kernel finds something it runs /sbin/hotplug, this udev into creating the device or something |
| 19:06 | duende> | oh |
| 19:06 | TheAsp> | err |
| 19:06 | TheAsp> | yeah, you get the idea |
| 19:06 | Crib> | i suppose... |
| 19:06 | TheAsp> | the idea is to put it on ramfs or something |
| 19:07 | TheAsp> | you can put it on a real fs too |
| 19:08 | Crib> | i'm getting fsck'd be back in 32.8 percent |
| 19:08 | duende> | fsck? i haven't used that in months |
| 19:09 | TheAsp> | <-- reiser :P |
| 19:09 | Crib> | yeah well it's like being forced |
| 19:09 | duende> | <- reiser |
| 19:09 | D-side> | F reiser. |
| 19:09 | Crib> | if only i'd known...this reminds me of windows |
| 19:09 | Crib> | 18 percent left |
| 19:09 | duende> | D-side, lemme guess, your an XFS person eh? |
| 19:09 | D-side> | eh. |
| 19:09 | TheAsp> | heh |
| 19:09 | D-side> | i feel every FS has its strengths. |
| 19:10 | D-side> | but I'm an Alan Cox groupie |
| 19:10 | duende> | lol |
| 19:10 | D-side> | a couple years ago AC was quoted as calling Hans Reiser a dick on the lkml |
| 19:10 | D-side> | thus, F reiser. |
| 19:10 | TheAsp> | hans reiser is a dick, but his fs rocks :P |
| 19:10 | D-side> | i'm a lazy bastard so most things around here are just ext3. |
| 19:11 | D-side> | the line i use is "i like the compatibility just in case of emergency!" |
| 19:11 | D-side> | really i could give a goddamn what fs it is so long as i dont lose anything. |
| 19:11 | Crib> | k i've recompilied |
| 19:12 | Crib> | now trying modprobe bttv gets me this lovely thing: insmod bttv failed |
| 19:12 | Crib> | thoughts, ideas |
| 19:12 | TheAsp> | whats the full output? |
| 19:12 | Crib> | init_module: No such device |
| 19:13 | TheAsp> | what does lspci say it is? |
| 19:13 | Crib> | brb |
| 19:13 | Netslayer> | i'm trying to adjust the xv color settings by pressing f, but it won't let me change the values with the arrow keys, if i hit g for recording values, then it does but not playback any ideas? |
| 19:13 | Crib> | doH! -bash: lspci: command not found |
| 19:13 | Netslayer> | is this a bug with the new patch? |
| 19:14 | TheAsp> | Crib: pciutils... |
| 19:14 | TheAsp> | more then likely |
| 19:14 | Crib> | emerge pciutils? |
| 19:14 | TheAsp> | give it a shot |
| 19:14 | Crib> | thx |
| 19:14 | TheAsp> | doesnt discover pickup bttv these days? |
| 19:14 | Netslayer> | what's the unmute key |
| 19:14 | o_cee> | Crib: man emerge is good.. emerge search, emerge -pvl and so on |
| 19:14 | TheAsp> | Netslayer: same as mute |
| 19:14 | TheAsp> | Netslayer: | |
| 19:14 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 19:14 | TheAsp> | among others |
| 19:15 | Crib> | TheAsp: thanks it's emerging |
| 19:15 | TheAsp> | heh |
| 19:15 | TheAsp> | discover does do bttv these days |
| 19:16 | D-side> | dont suppose anyone in here is having the same live tv issue as listed on the "Major problems..." thread on the user list |
| 19:16 | Crib> | I got the lspci now |
| 19:16 | Crib> | Dern it all... |
| 19:17 | Crib> | I've got nothing that says anything about the bttv card |
| 19:17 | o_cee> | D-side: uhm, the pal issue? |
| 19:17 | Crib> | bloody hell... |
| 19:18 | o_cee> | forgot to pop in the card? :) |
| 19:18 | TheAsp> | Crib: lspci | grep video |
| 19:18 | D-side> | o_cee: no, that should never have been listed in that particular thread. |
| 19:18 | Crib> | shit o_cee |
| 19:18 | Crib> | sorry for language |
| 19:19 | Crib> | Actually, the card is in, but it doesn not appear to be fully seated |
| 19:19 | o_cee> | Crib: ? |
| 19:19 | o_cee> | heheh |
| 19:19 | Crib> | i'm going to shutdown and kick it in |
| 19:19 | o_cee> | D-side: ? |
| 19:19 | Crib> | heh |
| 19:19 | Crib> | It is Saving random seed... hehe |
| 19:20 | D-side> | o_cee: i've got a minor flood queued up. want it in a single msg, or should i just dump it here |
| 19:21 | D-side> | probably 6-8 lines |
| 19:21 | o_cee> | wichever you dare |
| 19:21 | D-side> | 2003-12-13 10:06:02 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)2003-12-13 10:06:03 ReadStringList timeout (quick).Errm, event socket just closed.2003-12-13 10:06:04 ReadStringList timeout (quick).Remote encoder not responding. |
| 19:21 | D-side> | ugh. |
| 19:22 | D-side> | nice goddamn line breaks. |
| 19:22 | D-side> | anyway, you get the picture. its been documented on the list. someone is apparently getting backtraces. |
| 19:22 | o_cee> | and what was the final resolution posted on the list? |
| 19:22 | D-side> | its very odd. apparently only happens when being viewed on the backend machine. works just fine from a remote front end. |
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| 19:23 | D-side> | if there was a resolution you think i'd be wasting your time? |
| 19:23 | o_cee> | that thread got resolved |
| 19:23 | D-side> | no, it didnt. |
| 19:23 | D-side> | the other issues that people stupidly posted to that thread did. |
| 19:23 | D-side> | not this one. |
| 19:24 | D-side> | apparently people saw "major problem" and said "hey mine isnt working! thats a major problem!" and added to that thread. |
| 19:24 | o_cee> | you talking about the mails from Dan Berger? those are the only ones in that thread that i see here |
| 19:24 | o_cee> | or you're reffering to some other thread started by some dumb fuck that doesn't use real email clients |
| 19:25 | D-side> | no, Dan's issue was the resolved one. |
| 19:25 | D-side> | cant speak for the client preferences of others though. |
| 19:25 | o_cee> | yeah, that's the only thread i see? what are you talking about? |
| 19:25 | D-side> | first listed by Nicholas DePetrillo <n1hck@mail.uri.edu> |
| 19:26 | o_cee> | yeah. then there's two replies, one from isaac and then the thread from dan |
| 19:26 | o_cee> | guess the thread got torn apart.. search a little |
| 19:26 | o_cee> | n1hck <n1hck@mail.uri.edu> fucked it up |
| 19:26 | o_cee> | continuing reading |
| 19:26 | D-side> | i'm reading all 21 posts in this thread, one of the more recent ones from isaac requesting a backtrace. |
| 19:27 | D-side> | most recent being today at around 1. |
| 19:27 | o_cee> | there's not 21msgs in that thread because stupid people use fucked up email software that breaks the threads in real clients |
| 19:27 | D-side> | so no, no resolution. |
| 19:27 | D-side> | dude. theres 21 posts. |
| 19:27 | o_cee> | heh |
| 19:28 | o_cee> | maybe on the webboard. but i don't _care_ about that archive |
| 19:28 | D-side> | f web mail archives. |
| 19:28 | D-side> | this is my client sorting them. |
| 19:28 | o_cee> | then it's not sorting by thread id |
| 19:28 | o_cee> | probably subject |
| 19:28 | D-side> | i'll concede that point. |
| 19:29 | o_cee> | i'm from sweden, don't make me lookup that word |
| 19:29 | o_cee> | :) |
| 19:29 | D-side> | "you win" |
| 19:29 | D-side> | except theres no resolution |
| 19:29 | D-side> | and for all the time i'm spending griping about it i could have rebuilt the goddamn thing with debugging on |
| 19:29 | o_cee> | aight. still reading |
| 19:30 | D-side> | but f that, this poor nick bastard has been whining about it more than I have. let him have the thrill |
| 19:30 | D-side> | whats really f'ing me up is the fact that its only when played locally on the backend. |
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| 19:30 | Netslayer> | what would stop me from setting mute on my alsa Capture source in amixer, alsamixer? |
| 19:30 | Netslayer> | i can't set it, and i can't turn the input volume down |
| 19:30 | D-side> | uh |
| 19:31 | D-side> | when in alsamixer, pressing m does nothing? |
| 19:31 | Netslayer> | not on 'Capture' |
| 19:31 | TheAsp> | Netslayer: what controls you trying to change? |
| 19:31 | Netslayer> | which is like the mixer |
| 19:31 | D-side> | well thats a problem. |
| 19:31 | Netslayer> | alsamixer |
| 19:31 | TheAsp> | Netslayer: try doing it on what you are capturing from |
| 19:31 | Crib> | haha it wasn't seated properly |
| 19:31 | Crib> | it is brooktree bt878 vid cap rev 11 and brooktree audio cap rev 11 |
| 19:32 | D-side> | thats meaning less. |
| 19:32 | D-side> | without the space. |
| 19:32 | D-side> | modprobe'ing bttv should yield interesting results |
| 19:33 | Netslayer> | auh this is nuts |
| 19:33 | Netslayer> | why are there two capture sources? |
| 19:33 | D-side> | God hates you |
| 19:33 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 19:33 | Netslayer> | i set Capture as a capture source and line as a capture source |
| 19:33 | Netslayer> | as soon as i set line, even if volume is 0 and mute is on it goes right through |
| 19:34 | TheAsp> | i have aux muted, capture unmuted |
| 19:34 | TheAsp> | bot set as capture |
| 19:35 | Netslayer> | ur using your soundcard right not btaudio |
| 19:36 | Netslayer> | this is confusing with 30 devices listed here |
| 19:37 | Netslayer> | front, AC97, Master control output volume |
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| 19:37 | Netslayer> | pcm as well |
| 19:38 | Netslayer> | i got it!!!! |
| 19:38 | Netslayer> | yahoo |
| 19:38 | Netslayer> | ac97 has to be 0 |
| 19:38 | * | Netslayer writes down all these settings |
| 19:38 | Netslayer> | now for the hue..i have bars across my screen, and the xv controls look broken now |
| 19:39 | Netslayer> | pressing f pops them up and g goes to recording, i can't set playback, only the recording ones |
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| 19:42 | D-side> | o_cee: if you're still around and care, the most recent post on this includes backtraces. |
| 19:43 | o_cee> | D-side: getting some delays on my emails.. heh |
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| 19:46 | D-side> | o_cee: if i could could i would be far less useless. :) |
| 19:46 | o_cee> | that's a really strange sentence.. hehhe |
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| 19:54 | D-side> | o_cee: well holy jesus. thats mainly because the second "could" is supposed to be "code" |
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| 19:54 | D-side> | its about 50 degrees (F) in here, so i'm brewing a pot of coffee |
| 19:54 | o_cee> | aaaah, it's 2 am, i'm a bit thick |
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| 20:09 | c0nflict> | does anyone know of a way to call mplayer (from mythtv) so it will display on all desktops 'sticky window' |
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| 20:09 | c0nflict> | I was thinking of using the -wid option, but I am not sure what window id to give it, or if that will even work |
| 20:10 | c0nflict> | I am outputting the display to my tv, but I want to be able to switch desktops on the crt and still have only the video display on the tv |
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| 20:11 | crib2> | yo duende you still around |
| 20:11 | crib2> | this is crib |
| 20:11 | c0nflict> | I can do it with a keypress, but I'd like to have it automated |
| 20:11 | Netslayer> | when i go aplay /dev/dsp1 or aplay /dev/dsp2 for btaudio all i get is fuss but i do have it connected, any ideas? |
| 20:12 | crib2> | ok can anyone tell me what the name of the i2c module is so i can modprobe is... modprobe i2c doesn't seem to be working |
| 20:13 | Netslayer> | bttv, btaudio |
| 20:14 | c0nflict> | insmod i2c-core |
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| 20:21 | Netslayer> | for goodness sakes zap2it |
| 20:21 | Netslayer> | We apologize but the site you are trying to view is experiencing technical difficulties. It will be available again after a short time. |
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| 20:29 | Netslayer> | wtf is going on |
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| 20:41 | Netslayer> | can anyone assist me in connecting to mysql? |
| 20:41 | Netslayer> | i set it up like the docs state, but the remote machine can't connect |
| 20:44 | o_cee> | "Modifying access to the MySQL database for multiple systems" ? |
| 20:44 | Netslayer> | well it should work, i don't know why it ain't |
| 20:44 | Netslayer> | sure |
| 20:44 | Netslayer> | i've already done: mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| 20:45 | TheAsp> | is mysql listening? |
| 20:45 | Netslayer> | i can connect localy |
| 20:45 | o_cee> | /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 20:45 | o_cee> | maybe |
| 20:45 | TheAsp> | Netslayer: locally uses a socket |
| 20:46 | c0nflict> | iptables stopping you? |
| 20:46 | Netslayer> | mysql -u root mythconverg |
| 20:46 | Netslayer> | 2003-12-15 17:45:01 - Connecting to master server: 127.0.0.1:6543 |
| 20:46 | Netslayer> | i don't think i installed that |
| 20:46 | sfr> | Netslayer: check for #skip-networking in you my.cnf file |
| 20:47 | sfr> | Netslayer: well that without the # |
| 20:47 | c0nflict> | is mysql running on eth0? netstat -ln|grep 3306 |
| 20:47 | sfr> | Netslayer: that message is from a remote frontend? in that case, it can't connect to the mythbackend server process |
| 20:48 | Netslayer> | k #skip-networking |
| 20:48 | sfr> | Netslayer: so it's not b/c of skip-networking |
| 20:48 | Netslayer> | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
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| 20:48 | c0nflict> | ah |
| 20:48 | c0nflict> | it is only listening on localhost |
| 20:49 | c0nflict> | doh, nm |
| 20:49 | Netslayer> | if backend can log in localy does it mean the mysql settings for accessing it through the username mythtv is fine? |
| 20:49 | sfr> | Netslayer: 127.0.0.1:6543 refers to the mythv backend, change the ip via mythfrontend setup |
| 20:50 | Netslayer> | u mean ./setup in backend machine? |
| 20:50 | c0nflict> | mysql doesn't need to also listen on eth0? |
| 20:50 | sfr> | Netslayer: first, this problem is on a remote frontend? |
| 20:50 | Netslayer> | remote backend, frontend, ./setup can't connect |
| 20:51 | Netslayer> | hmm actually didn't try the frontend, one sec |
| 20:51 | Netslayer> | nope |
| 20:51 | Netslayer> | all of em can't connect |
| 20:51 | sfr> | Netslayer: so where is this message from 2003-12-15 17:45:01 - Connecting to master server: 127.0.0.1:6543? |
| 20:51 | Netslayer> | master backend (machine running the sql) |
| 20:52 | Netslayer> | i have mysql.txt set to connect to 192.168.1.28 mythtv mythtv..etc |
| 20:52 | sfr> | Netslayer: from the backends logfile? |
| 20:52 | Netslayer> | verbose |
| 20:52 | Netslayer> | when it starts up |
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| 20:53 | sfr> | Netslayer: so the backend doesn't think it's the master backend. |
| 20:53 | Crib> | back |
| 20:53 | c0nflict> | and you ran setup on the frontend and pointed it to the same IP? |
| 20:53 | Crib> | on the good side: i got the i2c and the btaudio and the bttv to load |
| 20:53 | Netslayer> | u mean ./setup on the master backend yes |
| 20:53 | Crib> | the negative side: it killed the mouse |
| 20:54 | Crib> | i no longer have /dev/mouse, /dev/usbmouse or /dev/input |
| 20:54 | Crib> | anyone ever heard of this? |
| 20:54 | Netslayer> | ./setup on the masterbackend machine: |
| 20:54 | c0nflict> | Netslayer on the frontend you need to tell it where the backend is (port 6543) |
| 20:54 | Netslayer> | ip address for server: 192.168.1.28 |
| 20:54 | Crib> | i don't think i can start x with no mouse |
| 20:54 | sfr> | Netslayer: in ./setup you set both IP address fields to 127.0.0.1? |
| 20:54 | sfr> | Netslayer: on the master backend that is |
| 20:54 | Netslayer> | it says that won't work? |
| 20:55 | Netslayer> | wait |
| 20:55 | Netslayer> | there are two here |
| 20:55 | Netslayer> | ip addres for server and master server ip address |
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| 20:56 | sfr> | Netslayer: this is ./setup on the master backend? |
| 20:56 | Netslayer> | yes |
| 20:56 | sfr> | Netslayer: and what are the ip's you entered there? |
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| 20:57 | Netslayer> | 192.168.1.28 for both as of right now |
| 20:58 | Netslayer> | is this a big deal, when i log into the db locally mysql -u root -p mythconverg |
| 20:58 | Netslayer> | i have to type in a root password that is not mythtv |
| 20:58 | o_cee> | uhm, that might be because you do -u root?? |
| 20:58 | Netslayer> | ya |
| 20:58 | c0nflict> | Netslayer on the frontend you need to run setup and use that IP as the master backend. have you done that? |
| 20:59 | c0nflict> | that IP = 192.168.1.28 |
| 20:59 | sfr> | Netslayer: post the error message that appears on the console you start mythfrontend from |
| 20:59 | Netslayer> | ya on the masterbackend machine i went setup and defined both ip fields as 192... |
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| 20:59 | Netslayer> | ok one sec have to type it out |
| 20:59 | c0nflict> | Netslayer frontend |
| 21:00 | c0nflict> | the frontend needs teh backends IP |
| 21:00 | Netslayer> | i set that already in mysql.txt |
| 21:00 | c0nflict> | no |
| 21:00 | Netslayer> | mythfrontend |
| 21:00 | c0nflict> | that is for mysql |
| 21:00 | c0nflict> | no myth |
| 21:00 | c0nflict> | not |
| 21:00 | Netslayer> | ? |
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| 21:01 | sfr> | c0nflict: thats wrong! setup is only run on the master backend nowhere else Netslayer |
| 21:01 | Netslayer> | on the remote frontend i set 192.168.1.28 in /usr/local/share/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| 21:01 | sfr> | Netslayer: ok |
| 21:01 | Netslayer> | sfr, setup is run on all backends, i'm setting up slaves |
| 21:02 | Netslayer> | mythfrontend |
| 21:02 | Netslayer> | Unable to connect to database! |
| 21:02 | Netslayer> | Driver error was [1/2003]: |
| 21:02 | sfr> | Netslayer: ok, just wanted to correct myself about slave backends, sorry. |
| 21:02 | Netslayer> | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| 21:02 | Netslayer> | Database error was: |
| 21:03 | Netslayer> | Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.28' (111) |
| 21:03 | Netslayer> | couldn't open db |
| 21:03 | Netslayer> | that's i |
| 21:03 | Netslayer> | that's it |
| 21:03 | Netslayer> | sfr, np |
| 21:03 | o_cee> | on the frontend machine, can you connect manually to the remote database? |
| 21:03 | sfr> | Netslayer: and your mysql.txt on the slave backend is correct? correct db name? |
| 21:04 | Netslayer> | same as the other ya |
| 21:04 | sfr> | Netslayer: try what o_cee suggested |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | masterbackend /usr/local/share/mythtv/mysql.txt: |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBHostName=localhost |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBUserName=mythtv |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBPassword=mythtv |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBName=mythconverg |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | remote frontend.. same location: |
| 21:05 | D-side> | o_cee: what is it, 4am there? |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBHostName=192.168.1.28 |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBUserName=mythtv |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBPassword=mythtv |
| 21:05 | Netslayer> | DBName=mythconverg |
| 21:05 | o_cee> | 3 |
| 21:06 | sfr> | Netslayer: like this: mysql -u mythtv -h 192.168.1.28 -p mythconverg |
| 21:06 | Netslayer> | how can i try that o_cee |
| 21:06 | Netslayer> | k one sec |
| 21:06 | * | o_cee point at sfr |
| 21:06 | o_cee> | :) |
| 21:06 | Netslayer> | wait |
| 21:06 | Netslayer> | it connects then prompts for a password |
| 21:06 | Netslayer> | i enter mythtv and gives same connection error |
| 21:07 | sfr> | Netslayer: post the error please |
| 21:07 | Netslayer> | same as above |
| 21:07 | Netslayer> | one sec |
| 21:07 | o_cee> | then your grants are wrong? |
| 21:07 | Netslayer> | ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.28' (111) |
| 21:07 | Netslayer> | probably |
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| 21:08 | sfr> | Netslayer: again but like this: mysql -u mythtv -h 192.168.1.28 -p |
| 21:08 | o_cee> | Netslayer: try adding -v to the mysqlcommand |
| 21:09 | o_cee> | maybe will print some more helpful stuff |
| 21:09 | Netslayer> | isn't printing anything else but that error |
| 21:09 | Netslayer> | and none of my passwords work |
| 21:09 | o_cee> | login with root and chceck the permissions |
| 21:10 | Netslayer> | how do u check permissions? |
| 21:11 | o_cee> | man mysql |
| 21:11 | o_cee> | need sleep |
| 21:11 | * | o_cee is away: sleepietime |
| 21:12 | sfr> | with phpmyadmin. sorry never done a lot with mysql command line |
| 21:12 | Netslayer> | have to install that anyway |
| 21:12 | Netslayer> | ya but apache isn't up yet heh |
| 21:13 | sfr> | Netslayer: what error did you get with: mysql -u mythtv -h 192.168.1.28 -p ? |
| 21:13 | Netslayer> | chris@pvr chris $ mysql -u mythtv -h 192.168.1.28 -v -p |
| 21:13 | Netslayer> | Enter password: |
| 21:13 | Netslayer> | ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.28' (111) |
| 21:13 | Netslayer> | i entered mythtv |
| 21:13 | sfr> | Netslayer: that doesn't sound like a permissions problem to me. |
| 21:14 | Netslayer> | it prompts for a password? |
| 21:14 | sfr> | Netslayer: try this on the mysql host: mysql -u mythtv -p ? |
| 21:14 | o_cee> | local mysql does, yeah |
| 21:14 | Chutt> | skip-networking |
| 21:14 | o_cee> | he said he checked it |
| 21:14 | Netslayer> | that's commented out |
| 21:15 | Netslayer> | chris@server chris $ mysql -u mythtv -p ? |
| 21:15 | Netslayer> | Enter password: |
| 21:15 | Netslayer> | ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' to database '?' |
| 21:15 | Netslayer> | chris@server chris $ |
| 21:15 | Chutt> | you'd get a permission error if it were |
| 21:15 | Chutt> | like that |
| 21:15 | Netslayer> | hmm |
| 21:15 | Chutt> | therefore, the server's not listening. |
| 21:15 | Chutt> | go read the mysql docs |
| 21:15 | sfr> | Netslayer: leave out the ? ;) |
| 21:16 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 21:16 | sfr> | Netslayer: the question mark that is |
| 21:16 | Netslayer> | i get in |
| 21:16 | Netslayer> | was just the ? |
| 21:16 | sfr> | Chutt: did you see my note ~12 hours ago? |
| 21:17 | sfr> | Netslayer: local? |
| 21:17 | Chutt> | sfr, not that i recall |
| 21:17 | Chutt> | care to recap? =) |
| 21:17 | Netslayer> | sfr, what do u mean |
| 21:18 | o_cee> | Netslayer: do "use mythconverg" |
| 21:18 | o_cee> | "use mythconverg;" |
| 21:19 | sfr> | Chutt: ok, the language-selection stores the wrong variable in the db. It used to be DE, EN and so on. But with 0.13 (cvs checkout close to the release) it stores Deutsch, English... After restarting the frontend it fails to load mythfronten_deutsch.qm and falls back to english. |
| 21:19 | Chutt> | that's weird |
| 21:19 | Chutt> | code looks right |
| 21:20 | sfr> | Chutt: returned from a christmas party earlier, so didn't look at it closer. wanted to quickly test some translations when i hit it. |
| 21:20 | Netslayer> | sfr, where should i run that |
| 21:20 | Chutt> | netslayer, turn on mysql networking. |
| 21:20 | sfr> | Netslayer: i meant you can connect to mysql locally. |
| 21:21 | sfr> | Netslayer: that was a question, btw |
| 21:21 | Netslayer> | ohya |
| 21:21 | D-side> | Hm. I'm still looking at this "Major problem in .13" thread on the users list, and I see you (likely) believe this is resolved in current cvs. any hope of having that available via a patch to .13? |
| 21:22 | Chutt> | d-side, no. |
| 21:22 | Chutt> | and, no, i don't think it's resolved in current cvs |
| 21:22 | D-side> | oh well. there goes all hope of keeping packages sane. |
| 21:22 | sfr> | Netslayer: follow Chutts advise and restart mysql. |
| 21:22 | D-side> | ah, well theres that anyway. |
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| 21:22 | Chutt> | i just don't like dealing with backtraces against an older codebase than what i'm working with. |
| 21:22 | sfr> | Netslayer: it really looks like this parameter. |
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| 21:22 | D-side> | seeing as it only really pops up when played back on the backend machine, i really dont care so much. |
| 21:23 | D-side> | Chutt: well that makes sense. any idea what might be going on? |
| 21:23 | Chutt> | nope |
| 21:23 | Chutt> | i don't really care, either |
| 21:23 | D-side> | what, content with "it works for me"? :) |
| 21:23 | Chutt> | yup |
| 21:24 | Chutt> | and i wasted enough time dealing with idiots that didn't know how to use source when upgrading from a binary package |
| 21:24 | Chutt> | so, i don't really give a damn about problems with the release anymore |
| 21:24 | D-side> | heh. well unfortunately that guy shouldnt have posted in that thread anyway, but whatever. most people are stupid. |
| 21:24 | D-side> | and i agree. at this point, i dont give a shit either. |
| 21:25 | Chutt> | try cvs, see if it fixes it. |
| 21:25 | Chutt> | it's not exactly difficult to do that |
| 21:25 | josephk> | bah...wait until 1.0 to support users |
| 21:25 | D-side> | yeah i'm going to. |
| 21:25 | Netslayer> | by the way i noticed that new xv setting code patch to merge the operations |
| 21:25 | D-side> | when i'm motivated. |
| 21:25 | Chutt> | d-side, just let me know how it works out |
| 21:25 | D-side> | Chutt: yeah i will. |
| 21:26 | josephk> | D-side...do it, you must |
| 21:26 | josephk> | you've got to |
| 21:26 | josephk> | do it for the team! |
| 21:26 | Netslayer> | i can't seem to actually change the playback ones, when i hit f it flips through them but arrow keys don't work, hitting g for the recording ones does and i can use the arrows |
| 21:26 | sfr> | D-side: what's the problem with running frontend on the backend host? |
| 21:27 | D-side> | sfr: its the live tv playback problem where it just craps it pants. works just fine on a remote frontend. very odd. |
| 21:27 | sfr> | D-side: just tested live tv here on the master backend using a pvr350. got noise when entering tv, changed channels and its working fine. |
| 21:27 | sfr> | D-side: it _never_ works for you? |
| 21:28 | josephk> | I had trouble initially...but as with all things, I believe it is my fault and deal with it as such |
| 21:28 | D-side> | sfr: not even once. |
| 21:28 | sfr> | D-side: what tuner? |
| 21:28 | D-side> | plain old vanilla bttv card. a pctv pro. |
| 21:29 | josephk> | are you getting socket errors D-side? |
| 21:29 | josephk> | or write errors |
| 21:29 | D-side> | josephk: precisely |
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| 21:29 | josephk> | I had that as well |
| 21:29 | D-side> | > QSocketDevice::writeBlock: Invalid socket> 2003-12-13 10:06:04 Error writing stringlist> Remote encoder not responding. |
| 21:29 | sfr> | D-side: sorry, seems to work just fine here. |
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| 21:29 | D-side> | never once works though, when the frontend is played on the backend machine. |
| 21:29 | Netslayer> | it works! |
| 21:29 | D-side> | sfr: yeah, it seems most people have no problems at all. |
| 21:29 | Netslayer> | the guys at mysql helped me out |
| 21:29 | sfr> | Netslayer: how come? |
| 21:30 | D-side> | lemme pull cvs. |
| 21:30 | josephk> | I just went into my cvs directory and uninstalled my .12 cvs...uninstalled .13 release, and reinstalled .13 release |
| 21:30 | josephk> | and voila |
| 21:30 | josephk> | or viola |
| 21:30 | Netslayer> | /etc/mysql/my.cnf has to have this commented out #bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:30 | Chutt> | problem is, that everyone has different problems |
| 21:30 | D-side> | josephk: i'm on gentoo, using their .13-r1 release. its just .13 with the pal/bttv patch. |
| 21:30 | Chutt> | and just like the 'blank screen on playback' |
| 21:30 | josephk> | well I had the same error |
| 21:30 | Chutt> | you get the same symptoms |
| 21:31 | Chutt> | since it's just an indication of the backend going away |
| 21:31 | josephk> | so it was a suggestion |
| 21:31 | D-side> | josephk: i see what you're saying. |
| 21:31 | sfr> | Netslayer: which version of mysql? |
| 21:32 | D-side> | i unmerged all the .12 stuff first, which leaves me with solely the db left. i figured that was vanilla enough. |
| 21:32 | Chutt> | it is. |
| 21:32 | D-side> | shrug. God hates me. |
| 21:32 | D-side> | lets try cvs. |
| 21:32 | Netslayer> | sfr, mysql Ver 12.21 Distrib 4.0.14, for pc-linux-gnu (i686) |
| 21:32 | josephk> | notice higher up when I tried to provide motivation |
| 21:33 | D-side> | you'll see how well motivated i am when i sell my pundit on ebay. heh. thanks though. |
| 21:33 | josephk> | I bet I get the same error later on and have to use cvs:) |
| 21:33 | josephk> | but I won't tell chutt |
| 21:34 | josephk> | because he will laugh |
| 21:34 | josephk> | and I like him grumpy |
| 21:34 | Chutt> | heh |
| 21:34 | Chutt> | i should just unsubscribe from -users |
| 21:34 | Chutt> | then i'd be a lot less grumpy |
| 21:34 | josephk> | i'd say |
| 21:34 | josephk> | but then no one would like you |
| 21:34 | josephk> | :D |
| 21:34 | D-side> | this is really the first time its ever provided me with anything useful, so i'd have to go along with that. |
| 21:36 | sfr> | Chutt: if you are happy, then we are happy. so might not be the worst option :) and the critical mass seems to be reached on -users |
| 21:36 | Netslayer> | fudge ./setup can connect remotely but mythbackend and frontend can't |
| 21:36 | D-side> | any major updates commited that'll break the .13 release modules? |
| 21:36 | sfr> | D-side: not break, but you need to recompile i think |
| 21:37 | Netslayer> | heh guess i have to have master running ;-) |
| 21:37 | Chutt> | what's the library tag on the 0.13 release? |
| 21:37 | Chutt> | ah, ok |
| 21:37 | Chutt> | plugins are compatible |
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| 21:37 | Chutt> | frontend->backend communication is _not_ |
| 21:38 | D-side> | you know what.. for someone who runs gentoo i'm bitching a whole hell of a lot about having to compile cvs. f this, i'm getting to it. |
| 21:38 | * | sfr nods ;) |
| 21:40 | D-side> | hm, in settings.pro, are "release" and "debug" mutually exclusive? |
| 21:40 | josephk> | I really want to try dlengel's patches but I really don't want to |
| 21:40 | D-side> | nevermind. |
| 21:40 | D-side> | listed in the docs. |
| 21:40 | D-side> | josephk: what do those accomplish? |
| 21:41 | Chutt> | d-side, yes |
| 21:41 | josephk> | tweaking pvr350 output |
| 21:41 | josephk> | the latest one has changes to the ivtv driver |
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| 21:42 | [hC]> | Hm, when i go to watch tv, my screen goes black, the console says: |
| 21:42 | [hC]> | 2003-12-15 20:41:19 Using XV port 55 |
| 21:42 | [hC]> | 2003-12-15 20:41:19 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 21:42 | [hC]> | and i see nothing |
| 21:42 | [hC]> | alt+tab will tab me back to my xterm i had runing, but etc wont quit the live tv thing. |
| 21:42 | [hC]> | xawtv shows me tv. |
| 21:42 | [hC]> | any ideas? |
| 21:42 | Chutt> | backend. |
| 21:42 | josephk> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/ |
| 21:43 | Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-20.html#ss20.28 |
| 21:43 | Chutt> | is a better link now :p |
| 21:43 | D-side> | heh |
| 21:43 | D-side> | this is another guy with my same problem. |
| 21:43 | D-side> | if i remember our conversation the other day. |
| 21:44 | josephk> | Chutt...one required more effort I think;P |
| 21:45 | Chutt> | no one ever looks at the backend output |
| 21:45 | Chutt> | which is where the error message is |
| 21:45 | Chutt> | =) |
| 21:45 | [hC]> | Unknown video codec: open: No such device |
| 21:45 | [hC]> | audio volume set to '65535' |
| 21:45 | [hC]> | open: No such device |
| 21:45 | D-side> | i should just run a syslog machine solely for mythbackend's log. |
| 21:46 | [hC]> | keep in mind, i deliberately didnt load my audio driver for/dev/dsp (it tells me it cant open it but keeps tyring anyways) |
| 21:46 | Chutt> | hC, you don't have things setup |
| 21:46 | [hC]> | because with it loaded, it reboots my pc when i click on watch tv. |
| 21:46 | [hC]> | instantly. |
| 21:46 | [hC]> | :( |
| 21:46 | Chutt> | if you're using analog recording |
| 21:46 | Chutt> | you _need_ sound |
| 21:46 | [hC]> | i just want to see the picture first |
| 21:46 | Chutt> | won't work |
| 21:46 | [hC]> | then i'll debug my audio driver |
| 21:46 | josephk> | I always look at the backend output...cus I'm good like that |
| 21:46 | josephk> | lol |
| 21:47 | Netslayer> | what's that port that has the backend status? |
| 21:47 | D-side> | i have a console dedicated to "tail -f /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log" |
| 21:47 | sfr> | josephk: you liked the matrix as well, i guess :) |
| 21:47 | D-side> | Netslayer: 6455 |
| 21:47 | Chutt> | netslayer, it's in the backend settings |
| 21:47 | [hC]> | Couldn't open /dev/video to probe its inputs. |
| 21:47 | [hC]> | odd |
| 21:47 | [hC]> | yet it shows me the list |
| 21:47 | [hC]> | er. it did. |
| 21:47 | [hC]> | brb |
| 21:47 | * | josephk says "THERE IS NO BACKEND" |
| 21:47 | Netslayer> | hmm it's not showing odd |
| 21:48 | Netslayer> | do i need apache installed? |
| 21:48 | Netslayer> | http://192.168.1.28:6455 shows nothing |
| 21:48 | mikegrb> | you need the backend started |
| 21:48 | D-side> | thats because i lied to you |
| 21:49 | D-side> | i meant 6544. |
| 21:49 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 21:49 | sfr> | Chutt: -commits ml <--so my 2nd patch made sense |
| 21:49 | Netslayer> | works now thx |
| 21:49 | D-side> | but we're all a little dyslexic at .esmit |
| 21:53 | Chutt> | sfr, yup |
| 21:53 | [hC]> | Ok, so.. heh, I symlinked /dev/dsp to /dev/null so it could open the device |
| 21:53 | [hC]> | now i get a black screen |
| 21:53 | [hC]> | and the backend log shows: |
| 21:53 | sfr> | Chutt: i actually meant the text, not so much the patches ;) |
| 21:53 | [hC]> | 2003-12-15 20:49:41 adding: freevo as a player 0 |
| 21:53 | [hC]> | 2003-12-15 20:49:41 adding: freevo as a remote ringbuffer |
| 21:53 | [hC]> | 2003-12-15 20:49:41 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 21:53 | [hC]> | audio volume set to '65535' |
| 21:53 | Chutt> | sfr, it made sense |
| 21:54 | Chutt> | hC, it will not work. |
| 21:54 | Chutt> | period. |
| 21:54 | Chutt> | i don't think /dev/null acts as a soundcard. |
| 21:54 | Chutt> | there's a tiny bit more to it than the open() |
| 21:54 | D-side> | okay. |
| 21:54 | D-side> | lets see if cvs fixes this |
| 21:54 | [hC]> | so video wont show up either if it cant open sound? |
| 21:55 | Chutt> | hC, that's what i fucking said 10 minutes ago |
| 21:56 | sfr> | [hC]: leave it, or use mythtv 0.0X somewhere back then it stopped working ;) |
| 21:56 | Chutt> | it's always needed sound |
| 21:56 | Chutt> | so =) |
| 21:56 | sfr> | Chutt: what about deaf people? *hides* |
| 21:57 | Chutt> | heh |
| 21:57 | D-side> | working. |
| 21:57 | D-side> | aint that some shit. |
| 21:58 | josephk> | don't make fun of my people |
| 21:59 | D-side> | Chutt: so whats changed in cvs that would resolve this? or should i shut the fuck up? |
| 21:59 | josephk> | nothing...that change was inside you |
| 21:59 | josephk> | lol |
| 22:00 | D-side> | oh goddamnit something just started recording. there goes any hope of emerging the vanilla .13 to see if smartass here is right and it WAS just me. :) |
| 22:00 | josephk> | I'm not a smartass...I just haven't mastered sarcasm as well as chutt |
| 22:01 | josephk> | or have I |
| 22:01 | D-side> | if you have to ask, you just suck. |
| 22:01 | josephk> | you obviously get sarcasm |
| 22:02 | D-side> | I'd like to legally change my name to Sarcastic Bastard. |
| 22:03 | Chutt> | d-side, the way it waits to decide if the backend timed out has changed |
| 22:04 | D-side> | ah, gotcha. |
| 22:04 | Netslayer> | on my remote machine with the slavebackend, when i go livetv it's giving me "only read -1 from 4096 bytes from /dev/dsp read audio io error, i'm pretty sure alsa works on here |
| 22:04 | D-side> | wonder why its only an issue on some setups and not others. |
| 22:04 | Chutt> | d-side, are you running a standard kernel? |
| 22:04 | D-side> | its nothing funky like a rh kernel. |
| 22:05 | Chutt> | so no, then :p |
| 22:05 | Chutt> | that's why |
| 22:05 | D-side> | gentoo patches the crap out of theirs but i dont enable the sillier options. |
| 22:05 | D-side> | what, this is kernel related? |
| 22:05 | Chutt> | i'm thinking it is |
| 22:05 | D-side> | hell i'll go to a strictly vanilla .23 if you think that'll help. |
| 22:05 | Chutt> | just use cvs |
| 22:05 | sfr> | Chutt: *ouch* what about wolk kernels? running 4.6s on the backend |
| 22:05 | Netslayer> | "Unable to write to client socket, as it's no longer there" what is this reffering to? |
| 22:06 | Chutt> | netslayer, it means the frontend disconnected before the backend could respond to it |
| 22:06 | D-side> | wolk kernels just scare me. |
| 22:06 | D-side> | thats way too much shit going on |
| 22:06 | Netslayer> | would that be local slave or remote master backend? |
| 22:06 | Chutt> | if cvs fixes it, just use that and stop worrying about it :p |
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| 22:06 | D-side> | hm, backend timeout checks.. explains why a remote frontend digs it. |
| 22:07 | D-side> | welp, f it. time to cvs the other modules and kill all my packaged versions. thanks. |
| 22:07 | Chutt> | actually, if you want to use 0.13 |
| 22:07 | josephk> | well as I said it could happen to me again |
| 22:07 | Chutt> | i think this patch: |
| 22:07 | Chutt> | http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythtv/libs/libmyth/util.cpp?r1=1.29&r2=1.30 |
| 22:07 | Chutt> | is self contained |
| 22:08 | Chutt> | and i believe that should do it as well |
| 22:08 | sfr> | D-side: b/c of the amount of patches inside? |
| 22:08 | D-side> | i'll go apply that by hand, since i'm lame and havent figured out how diff works yet. |
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| 22:09 | D-side> | sfr: the number of them and how much it adds. |
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| 22:10 | D-side> | Chutt: i'll work on this and let you know how it ends up. thanks for the help. |
| 22:10 | D-side> | sfr: honestly, i havent put a lot of effort into learning a lot about the patches it includes. whats notable or fun? |
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| 22:12 | sfr> | D-side: hm, fun? don't know. i use the grsecurity stuff, low-latency, xfs, acpi, v4l2 and all on one box. |
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| 22:13 | D-side> | have acpi working well? |
| 22:13 | D-side> | i'm just interested in finding a good solution for making standby/suspend work. |
| 22:13 | Netslayer> | the xv controls are all broken in cvs.. |
| 22:13 | sfr> | D-side: as it's my server i never tried standby/suspend |
| 22:14 | Chutt> | netslayer, i accept patches :p |
| 22:14 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 22:14 | Netslayer> | are these values editable in the db? |
| 22:15 | Chutt> | of course |
| 22:15 | Netslayer> | any idea under what |
| 22:15 | Netslayer> | which table |
| 22:15 | Chutt> | channel table. |
| 22:15 | Chutt> | settings table. |
| 22:15 | D-side> | sfr: too bad suspended boxes cant wakeup via anything via cron or some form of signal generated locally. i'd love to use my pundit like that. |
| 22:15 | Netslayer> | it's per chanenl |
| 22:15 | Netslayer> | auh that might explain a lot |
| 22:15 | Netslayer> | i have no xml data right now |
| 22:16 | * | Netslayer runs mythfilldb |
| 22:17 | sfr> | D-side: isn't there some s/w to program the bios alarm? afaik it works on some motherboards |
| 22:17 | Chutt> | choenig never contributed docs for the suspend / resume stuff, did he? |
| 22:18 | sfr> | choenig actually told me about that software |
| 22:18 | Netslayer> | when mythfilldatabase gives a "config gile does not exist "in the user's dir, while it resides in the root dir i probably should re set it up running ./setup as a user not as root |
| 22:18 | Chutt> | he was going to write some up for the website docs |
| 22:18 | Chutt> | netslayer, or just copy the ~/.mythtv from root to the user |
| 22:19 | sfr> | Netslayer: you shouldn't use the root account for mythtv stuff |
| 22:20 | Netslayer> | ya, i'm just rerunning it, it was empty anyway when zap2it was down right when i wanted it before |
| 22:20 | D-side> | maybe its time to learn how diff works. afk. |
| 22:25 | Netslayer> | is this a big deal when running mythfilldb "QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range |
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| 22:27 | D-side> | uh. |
| 22:28 | D-side> | so |
| 22:28 | D-side> | seriously, diff is THAT easy to use? |
| 22:28 | D-side> | i'm an idiot. afk. |
| 22:28 | Netslayer> | great now these errors: "zap2it gave us a server error, but let's go for it anyway |
| 22:28 | Netslayer> | Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/XMLTV/ZapListings.pm line 266" |
| 22:28 | Netslayer> | is zap2it down or somethring |
| 22:29 | Netslayer> | brb |
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| 22:36 | crib2> | what's up all |
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| 22:37 | crib2> | i finally got bttv, btaudio, i2c-core and i2c-algo-bit loaded! |
| 22:37 | crib2> | would xawtv be a good next step here? |
| 22:37 | sfr> | yes |
| 22:37 | crib2> | bummer |
| 22:37 | crib2> | cause it ain't workin |
| 22:38 | crib2> | getting this: |
| 22:38 | crib2> | This is xawtv-3.86, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.22) |
| 22:38 | crib2> | Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct |
| 22:38 | crib2> | Segmentation fault |
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| 22:38 | sfr> | fonts missing? i have no idea, really but google is always the right answer :) |
| 22:39 | crib2> | sorry man i haven't even googled it...so tired....i've been working on this SOOO long |
| 22:39 | * | sfr feels honoured to appear on Chutts todo list. |
| 22:40 | sfr> | crib2: continue tomorrow |
| 22:41 | crib2> | sfr: there is no tommorow...i have to friggin babysit my sister's kids |
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| 22:41 | crib2> | i found this |
| 22:41 | crib2> | This error seems to go away once the font server has been restarted. |
| 22:41 | crib2> | how do i restart the font server? |
| 22:43 | sfr> | crib2: don't expect me to answer that at 04:43 |
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| 22:45 | D-side> | welp, gentoo is a pain in the nuts. think i've got it though |
| 22:47 | Chutt> | cvs also fixed the other guy's issues |
| 22:47 | Chutt> | from the mailing list |
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| 22:48 | D-side> | Chutt: i've got a diff ready to go. |
| 22:48 | D-side> | i'm just wasting time creating an ebuild for it. |
| 22:49 | D-side> | that and i've got another 11 minutes until this is done recording. :) |
| 22:49 | D-side> | Chutt: thanks btw. |
| 22:49 | Chutt> | no problemo :p |
| 22:49 | D-side> | since i've got a working diff, sure you dont want to throw that up on the page? :) |
| 22:50 | D-side> | maybe even incorporate it into the one thats already there, if you want to be slick. or as always, i can shut the fuck up. |
| 22:51 | Chutt> | eh, email it to me |
| 22:51 | Chutt> | if enough people bitch about it, i'll update it on the website |
| 22:51 | D-side> | same address as used on the list? |
| 22:51 | Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:51 | D-side> | fair enough. |
| 22:51 | D-side> | hold. |
| 22:51 | Chutt> | i'm too lazy to do a website update right now |
| 22:52 | D-side> | got a name preference? i just named it backend_timing.diff |
| 22:52 | Netslayer> | is zap2it really slow or is something messed up for me? |
| 22:52 | Netslayer> | i'm getting like one channel a minute here |
| 22:53 | Chutt> | that's fine |
| 22:53 | Netslayer> | like one station |
| 22:53 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 22:54 | D-side> | sent |
| 22:55 | D-side> | sometimes zap2it sucks. other times, xmltv sucks. |
| 22:55 | D-side> | dont worry though, you're one step ahead of them. you suck all the time. |
| 22:56 | Netslayer> | ouch my fonts are terrible, all jagged, any ideas? |
| 22:56 | D-side> | :D |
| 22:56 | Netslayer> | heh |
| 23:00 | Netslayer> | auh i give up this sound card is coming out, it only works half the time |
| 23:01 | Netslayer> | i've grabbed 10 stations in the last 10 minutes gosh |
| 23:03 | Netslayer> | err reinstalling alsa |
| 23:03 | Chutt> | d-side, you missed a big chunk of the changes |
| 23:04 | D-side> | Chutt: oh crap. i was just looking at the cvs thing you pointed me too. sorry i wasted your time. |
| 23:04 | Chutt> | http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythtv/libs/libmyth/util.cpp?r1=1.29&r2=1.30&diff_format=u |
| 23:04 | Chutt> | should look more like that :p |
| 23:05 | D-side> | want it redone or is the above what will be used? |
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| 23:35 | Netslayer> | are recording profiles per backend or are they global? |
| 23:40 | Netslayer> | is there anyway to tell a slave backend to use the masterbackend for livetv if available? |
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| 23:53 | Netslayer> | gosh dang it what is up with zap2it is everyone using myth hammering them |
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