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00:53 | tdb30_> | any ideas why I'm not getting audio? I have a pvr 350. |
00:54 | paulproteus|lapt> | Would anyone like to recommend a USB keyboard to buy (wireless or wired), and/or a USB remote control (wireless)? The cheaper the better, obviously, but I'll be happy steering clear of really cheap junk. |
00:55 | tdb30_> | I use a cheapo wireless logitech |
00:55 | tdb30_> | mouse/keyboard combo |
00:55 | tdb30_> | well they are seperate devices but they use the same controler dongle. and were boxed together. |
00:56 | tdb30_> | I made my own serial remote control so I can't help you on the usb remote control |
01:03 | paulproteus|lapt> | Heh. :) |
01:03 | paulproteus|lapt> | Is the remote control you made infrared? |
01:03 | tdb30_> | yup |
01:04 | tdb30_> | Acutaly I just made the reciever. I'm using a universal remote with it. |
01:04 | tdb30_> | I put the tivo codes into the remote. |
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02:13 | vanquish> | anyone here familar with the install of mythtv on fedora? |
02:13 | vanquish> | using Jarod's guide |
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02:14 | vanquish> | I'm attempting 'apt-get install bttv-kmdl-$KERNEL', but I'm getting the error: "E: Couldn't find package bttv-kmdl-2.4.22-1.2129.nptl_25.rhfc1.at" |
02:15 | vanquish> | I checked http://atrpms.physik.fu-berlin.de/dist/fc1/bttv/ and the package is there, but the name contains "-0.9.12-32.rhfc1.at" and I don't know what that means |
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05:03 | robbie> | i have a complaint about mythtv |
05:03 | robbie> | it allowed me to record what is possibly the worst movie ever |
05:04 | robbie> | "Santa Clause Conquers the Martians" |
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05:18 | shamoun> | robbie, yes, if i were the myth developer, i would make sure that it recorded every airing of that movie on every myth box around the world |
05:19 | robbie> | hehe |
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05:26 | engie> | Hi. Can I just confirm, after my previous stupidities, that sarge is debian unstable, and useful for the unstable debs |
05:27 | engie> | Or is that sid... |
05:27 | robbie> | sid |
05:28 | robbie> | are you asking so you know what to put in your /etc/apt/sources.list file ? |
05:28 | virsys | is now known as virzyz |
05:29 | engie> | I'm starting afresh on a new HD, looking to see what installers to grab |
05:29 | engie> | I'm downloading a sarge netinst now, but that could well be wrong |
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05:36 | shamoun> | engie, you use debian and myth? |
05:37 | shamoun> | i run debian on this machine, but gentoo on my myth machine |
05:37 | shamoun> | i prefer it for multimedia |
05:39 | robbie> | i fail to see how there could be a difference? |
05:40 | engie> | shamoun: I saw some (strange but true) benchmarks that put debian way ahead of gentoo, plus I know debian. |
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06:48 | Matt> | hmmm |
06:48 | * | Matt pokes nuvexport with a big stick |
06:48 | Matt> | or at least, nuvexport+vcdimager |
06:53 | shamoun> | engie, linux is linux so long as it is not redhat/mandrake crap |
06:53 | shamoun> | but i like being able to compile from scratch on a multimedia machine |
06:53 | shamoun> | later all |
06:53 | shamoun> | need some sleep |
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07:14 | Peit|Home> | mythcommflag can reflag a program for commercial breaks, but it's returning file not found in the "breaks" section for a program i've transcoded, is there a way to fix? |
07:34 | Peit|Home> | ah, you have to run mythcommflag on the backend, not on a frontend, even if the frontend has the same file in the same place as the backend |
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08:46 | stua> | Question: since tv_grab_sn isn't working, is there a way to manually tune the channels? |
08:46 | robbie> | use mythweb and your favourite broswer |
08:46 | robbie> | browser |
08:46 | stua> | robbie: thanks |
08:47 | sfr> | stua: to set up your channels? use xawtv to create a .xawtvrc containing all channels and import them via mythfilldatabase |
08:47 | robbie> | or that :) |
08:47 | stua> | sfr: can't use xawtv since I have a pvr350 |
08:48 | stua> | where can I find mythweb? Does it need to be downloaded separately? |
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08:48 | stua> | ah, found it... sorry -- asking before I think. |
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10:14 | Octane> | good morning; does anyone here know exactly how the nestitle database reading works? |
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10:15 | sfr> | Octane: nestitle? |
10:15 | Octane> | the db |
10:15 | Peit|Home> | anyone know what type 5 is for mythcommflag? is it the end of the program? |
10:15 | Octane> | that keeps all the nes titles :) |
10:15 | sfr> | Octane: oh, mythgame? |
10:15 | Octane> | yaaah |
10:16 | sfr> | Octane: never used it :) |
10:16 | Octane> | i am working on an update for the nes title table |
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11:10 | meth> | is there any way to get the frontend to shut down after x amount of mins. of no input from the user? if it stays on overnight it locks up my pc for some reason |
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11:12 | mythtv> | anyone here have experience setting up an ir blaster for mythtv ? |
11:12 | mythtv | is now known as nbro |
11:12 | meth> | i got a ir blaster |
11:12 | * | meth makes sure its a ir blaster |
11:13 | meth> | hm packard bell |
11:13 | nbro> | was it very hard to setup ? I've got a "JetEye" IR device which supposedly works in linux with lirc however i have no idea where to start |
11:14 | meth> | plugin the receiver |
11:14 | nbro> | this is the last thing i need to get working for my mythtv |
11:14 | meth> | do you know if the remote works? |
11:14 | meth> | have you tested it yet in linux |
11:14 | nbro> | the blaster is plugged into the serial port now i have no clue where what to do next |
11:14 | meth> | ok |
11:14 | meth> | let me remember the command |
11:14 | nbro> | this isn't for a remote, my remote works, this is for changing channels on my difgitial cable box |
11:15 | meth> | digital cable box? |
11:15 | nbro> | do i need to do something to enable the serial port ? |
11:15 | nbro> | yup, my mythtv box has to be able to cahnge the channels on my cable box via an IR transmitter |
11:16 | meth> | type: irw |
11:16 | meth> | then use the remote |
11:16 | meth> | see if it reads |
11:16 | nbro> | the remote works, using a PVR-250 remote |
11:16 | meth> | oh ok |
11:16 | nbro> | have already done all that |
11:17 | meth> | so as the user you run irexec add edit ~/.lircrc |
11:17 | nbro> | my problem is getting the IR Transmitter so that the PC can change channels on my cable box |
11:17 | meth> | oh |
11:17 | meth> | i get it |
11:17 | meth> | you have digital cable box to receive |
11:17 | meth> | pumping video to your mythtv pc |
11:18 | nbro> | exactly |
11:19 | meth> | ya i dunno how to do that hehe |
11:20 | meth> | you want the remote for your pc to change station on a digital receiver |
11:20 | nbro> | nope, the PC has to be able to change channels on the digital box so that it can record shows on various channels |
11:21 | meth> | ya ive not gotten there yet |
11:21 | tdb30_> | what kind of ir transmiter are you using? |
11:21 | meth> | were working on satellite right now |
11:21 | tdb30_> | I'm using a homebrew to change channels on my digital box. |
11:21 | nbro> | it is called a JetEye |
11:21 | nbro> | it is IrDA 1.1 compatible so it should work with lirc |
11:22 | nbro> | i have no clue where to start thoughj on getting this working... i think the first thing is to check if my serial port is enabled |
11:23 | tdb30_> | lirc also needs you to run a program called setserial to turn of the uart or something. Or that you not have certian serial drivers loaded. |
11:23 | nbro> | turn off uart ? |
11:24 | tdb30_> | yeah. I use the command setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none |
11:24 | tdb30_> | because my transmiter is on the serial port |
11:24 | tdb30_> | not sure about the irda stuff though. |
11:24 | nbro> | what is uart/what does it do ? (i should probably alrerady know this) |
11:24 | tdb30_> | maybe you don't have to do that. |
11:25 | nbro> | i've never worked with serial ports before but i am assuming they arent plug and play like most other ports |
11:25 | tdb30_> | I forget what it stants for (universal asyncronis transmiter/reciever or something). Its a piece of hardware on serial boards. Its basicly a buffer I think |
11:26 | tdb30_> | man my spelling stinks this early in the morining. |
11:28 | nbro> | ohoh ... ever since i installed my wireless mouse/keyboard this morning the PVR-250 remote no longer works.... |
11:28 | nbro> | or i should say lirc no longer works |
11:29 | nbro> | gonna reboot, brb |
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11:36 | mythtv> | you guys still there ? lirc no longer working :( |
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11:38 | meth> | is it still on? |
11:38 | meth> | drivers loaded irexec/event started? |
11:38 | mythtv> | i think i know the problem, i think i gotta run some ivtv commands first |
11:39 | mythtv> | since IR si coming through PVR 250 |
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11:40 | mythtv> | where should i put commands like modprobe ivtv for boot loading ? |
11:42 | meth> | /etc/modules.autoload |
11:42 | meth> | or /etc/modules.d/... |
11:42 | meth> | depends on the system |
11:43 | meth> | /etc/modules.d/aliases for me |
11:43 | mythtv> | using redhat 9 |
11:43 | meth> | look in modules.d |
11:44 | mythtv> | what about moduules.conf ? |
11:44 | meth> | ya |
11:45 | mythtv> | so how would i add /sbin/modprobe ivtv |
11:45 | mythtv> | just put that line at the bottom ? |
11:46 | mythtv> | maybe i'll just create a shell script with all the commands |
11:46 | meth> | alias char-major-61 lirc_serial |
11:46 | meth> | thats what i do |
11:46 | mythtv> | yeah, i got that already.. this is for my PVR-250 |
11:47 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: see http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-page.php?pageName=rh9pvr250#capture |
11:47 | mythtv> | is that jared's guiode ? |
11:47 | pahli_bar> | yup |
11:48 | mythtv> | i did all that, but i still need to run the PVR-250 commands and an lirc command or two after booting |
11:48 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: there should be something similar to update-modules (from debian) in redhat. |
11:50 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: did u put it in ur /etc/modules.conf |
11:50 | mythtv> | yup |
11:50 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: and it doesn't load it up at boot time? |
11:50 | mythtv> | nope |
11:51 | pahli_bar> | thats funny. does your kernel do autoloading modules? |
11:51 | meth> | you can alweays make a script and load it in local.start |
11:52 | mythtv> | i'm assuming it does.... using the kernel sugested in Jared guide |
11:52 | mythtv> | followed the steps to a T |
11:53 | pahli_bar> | how it works is the first time anyprogram needs to access ivtv, kernel will automatically load the modules by looking at /etc/modules.conf |
11:53 | mythtv> | so if i do a cat video > file.mpg drivers should already be loaded correct ? |
11:54 | mythtv> | that is how i have been testing |
11:54 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: yes |
11:54 | mythtv> | ok, cause i definetly need to re-run the ivtv loading commands before doing that |
11:54 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: show ur /etc/modules.conf |
11:55 | mythtv> | path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates |
11:55 | mythtv> | # default path |
11:55 | mythtv> | path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/`uname -r` |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias eth0 via-rhine |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias usb-controller ehci-hcd |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias usb-controller1 usb-uhci |
11:55 | mythtv> | # ALSA portion |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias char-major-116 snd |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx |
11:55 | mythtv> | # module options should go here |
11:55 | mythtv> | # OSS/Free portion |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias char-major-14 soundcore |
11:55 | mythtv> | |
11:55 | mythtv> | # card #1 |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss |
11:55 | mythtv> | #alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio irq=5 |
11:55 | mythtv> | post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : |
11:55 | mythtv> | pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : |
11:55 | mythtv> | options prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1 |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias wlan0 prism2_usb |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias char-major-195 nvidia |
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11:55 | mythtv> | # ivtv modules setup |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias char-major-81 videodev |
11:55 | mythtv> | alias char-major-81-0 ivtv |
11:55 | mythtv> | options ivtv debug=1 |
11:55 | mythtv> | options tuner type=2 |
11:56 | mythtv> | options msp3400 once=1 simple=1 |
11:56 | mythtv> | add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner |
11:56 | mythtv> | add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c |
11:56 | mythtv> | look ok ? |
11:57 | pahli_bar> | looks fine. can you check one more thing. for your kernel look at the config file (it should be in /boot/) and see whats against CONFIG_KMOD |
11:58 | mythtv> | what is file name ? |
11:58 | pahli_bar> | it will be config-XXX (XXX - kernel version) |
11:58 | mythtv> | k |
12:00 | pahli_bar> | whenever any program access /dev/video kernel will see look for char-major-81 (which is the name for /dev/video) and load the module corresponding to it. char-major-81-0 corresponds to /dev/video0 |
12:00 | mythtv> | y |
12:00 | mythtv> | =y |
12:00 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: ok |
12:00 | mythtv> | is that the right value ? |
12:00 | pahli_bar> | yes |
12:01 | pahli_bar> | can you unload the ivtv module now and do cat /dev/video0 > file.mpeg and see if it loads the module |
12:01 | mythtv> | how do i unload the modules |
12:01 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: rmmod or modprobe -r |
12:02 | mythtv> | i'm 99.9% certain i'' just get static |
12:02 | mythtv> | modprobe -r ivtv right ? |
12:02 | pahli_bar> | yes |
12:02 | pahli_bar> | do lsmod after catting and see if module is loaded |
12:03 | mythtv> | static |
12:03 | pahli_bar> | lsmod? |
12:03 | mythtv> | ivtv 85340 0 (autoclean) |
12:03 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: there it got loaded. see!! |
12:03 | mythtv> | is that what i should be looking for ? |
12:04 | mythtv> | hmmm... so one of the commands in the Jared guide must be fixing the static or somewthing |
12:04 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: you might need to change the input for ivtv. is it cable connection? |
12:04 | mythtv> | one of the test_iotcl commands |
12:05 | mythtv> | nope, s-video |
12:05 | mythtv> | aha |
12:05 | mythtv> | got it |
12:05 | mythtv> | -p 6 |
12:05 | pahli_bar> | thats it. just add the line for that in ur modules.conf |
12:06 | pahli_bar> | post-install ivtv /usr/lib/ivtv/test_ioctl -p 4 |
12:06 | mythtv> | hmmm.... so i wonder why the remote stopped working |
12:06 | pahli_bar> | s/4/6 |
12:06 | pahli_bar> | is lirc running? |
12:07 | mythtv> | sec, i'm going to try again just to make sure |
12:08 | pahli_bar> | check lsmod to see if lirc_i2c is loaded or not. thats what should control the 250 remote receiver |
12:08 | mythtv> | works |
12:08 | mythtv> | for some reason, |
12:08 | mythtv> | if video input is not set to -6 (s-video) remote doesnt work either |
12:09 | pahli_bar> | remote will change channels (frequencies) equivalent to the input |
12:13 | mythtv> | ah, cool... thanks for your help by the way. |
12:13 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: np |
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12:14 | mythtv> | now back to my original plan... getting my JetEye IR Blaster working |
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12:16 | mythtv> | how can i check if my serial port is accessible/working ? do i have to disable uart or anything like that ? |
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12:18 | pahli_bar> | try loading lirc_serial and check dmesg if it complains |
12:20 | mythtv> | lirc_serial ? who would have though... :) |
12:22 | mythtv> | ouch: |
12:22 | mythtv> | [root@localhost root]# /sbin/modprobe lirc_serial |
12:22 | mythtv> | /lib/modules/2.4.20-24_31.rh9.at/updates/drivers/lirc/lirc_serial.o: init_module: Device or resource busy |
12:22 | mythtv> | Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. |
12:22 | mythtv> | You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg |
12:22 | mythtv> | /lib/modules/2.4.20-24_31.rh9.at/updates/drivers/lirc/lirc_serial.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-24_31.rh9.at/updates/drivers/lirc/lirc_serial.o failed |
12:22 | mythtv> | /lib/modules/2.4.20-24_31.rh9.at/updates/drivers/lirc/lirc_serial.o: insmod lirc_serial failed |
12:22 | mythtv> | [root@localhost root]# |
12:24 | pahli_bar> | irq/port might be wrong. whats irq/port for your serial ports |
12:24 | pahli_bar> | you can see it in your bios |
12:25 | mythtv> | so gotta reboot then ? |
12:25 | pahli_bar> | hmmm. maybe not |
12:25 | mythtv> | can lirc and lirc_serial run at same time wihout conflict ? |
12:26 | pahli_bar> | usually serial port 1 is 0x3f8 irq 4 and port 2 is 0x2f8 irq 3 |
12:27 | mythtv> | ok, so should i check these values in some lirc_serial config file and try changing them ? |
12:28 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: again it will be in /etc/modules.conf: options lirc_serial io=0x3f8 irq=4 for example |
12:30 | mythtv> | so if there is nothing like that in there i should be adding it correct ? |
12:31 | pahli_bar> | mythtv: yes |
12:31 | mythtv> | and then depmod -a to refresh/apply the change as if i rebooted ? |
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12:32 | pahli_bar> | no need for depmod |
12:32 | pahli_bar> | but won't hurt |
12:32 | mythtv> | would any other lirc_serial lines be needed in the conf file ? |
12:34 | pahli_bar> | first check if you can load lirc_serial module first |
12:34 | mythtv> | added the line and checked, same error |
12:34 | mythtv> | maybe i should reboot and check bios for exact serial values |
12:35 | pahli_bar> | try with io=0x2f8 and irq=3 |
12:35 | Octane> | thats a good idea |
12:35 | Octane> | how many serial ports does your mobo have |
12:35 | pahli_bar> | yes. that would avoid any second guessing |
12:35 | Octane> | btw, very original nick |
12:36 | mythtv | is now known as nbro |
12:36 | nbro> | there ya go :) |
12:36 | Octane> | :D |
12:36 | nbro> | only one serial port |
12:36 | Octane> | hmm |
12:36 | Octane> | probably com1 then?? |
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12:36 | Octane> | check your mobo's manual |
12:37 | nbro> | cant what ? |
12:37 | nbro> | for the irq/port values ? |
12:38 | Octane> | huh |
12:38 | Octane> | yah you need to know |
12:38 | Octane> | although its probably gonna be according to the comport |
12:39 | nbro> | doesnt have the values in the book that i can find... |
12:39 | Octane> | then reboot |
12:39 | nbro> | just says 1 serial |
12:39 | Octane> | probably com1 |
12:39 | Octane> | which means 03f8 and 4 |
12:40 | Octane> | either try or reboot, stop talking about it :P |
12:40 | Octane> | personally i prefer rebooting |
12:42 | nbro> | in the book it says com1 is irq4 |
12:46 | nbro> | ok, gonna reboot to be 100% certain. be right back. |
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12:46 | Octane> | then use 3f8 and 4 |
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12:49 | Peit|Home> | anyone where myth gets the length (in seconds, rather than bytes) of a file? |
12:49 | pahli_bar> | Peit|Home: from the db |
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12:50 | mythtv | is now known as nbro |
12:51 | Lenolium> | What version of the bttv driver is recommended for use? Running the 2.6.0 kernel, and my system seems to crash sometimes when recording. Should I just get the kraxel.org bigpatch? or try for bttv v0.9.x? |
12:51 | nbro> | serial - 378H/IRQ4 |
12:52 | Octane> | okay, then now you know, and set lirc_serial properly |
12:54 | nbro> | i have it set to the following: |
12:54 | nbro> | options lirc_serial io=0x03f8 irq=4 |
12:54 | nbro> | which i am assuming is correct... |
12:55 | pahli_bar> | nbro: try releasing the serial port first. setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none |
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12:56 | nbro> | hey, i think it worked... |
12:56 | nbro> | no message but took 1 sec to run and lirc_serial didnt give me any error msg's |
12:56 | pmoreau> | Can anybody help out with my mythtv setup? I'm running Knoppmyth R4 with a PVR-250 and the sound and video are not in sync. |
12:56 | pahli_bar> | good for you |
12:57 | nbro> | now the only question is how to test it out |
12:57 | Octane> | i want to make love to my mythtv box |
12:57 | nbro> | there is a light on top of the device that is suppose to come on when the device is plugged in or in use |
12:57 | mikegrb> | Octane: me too |
12:57 | Octane> | what is it that youre trying to do nbro? |
12:57 | Octane> | mikegrb ya!!! |
12:57 | Octane> | mikegrb: want to have a foursome? |
12:57 | pahli_bar> | get a girlfriend you guys !! |
12:57 | mikegrb> | heh |
12:58 | * | mikegrb is married |
12:58 | nbro> | i have a JetEye IR Transmitter that i want to use to change channels on my digital cable box |
12:58 | * | Octane has a girlfriend |
12:58 | Octane> | omg, sixsome!! |
12:58 | mikegrb> | mythtv is just so damn sexy |
12:58 | Octane> | it really is |
12:58 | pahli_bar> | lol... wife better not hear about it... |
12:58 | Octane> | nbro okay... so when you do irsend it gives no error? |
12:58 | nbro> | irsend ? |
12:58 | Octane> | uhh |
12:59 | pmoreau> | Has anybody seen the problem with the sound getting way ahead of the video stream using a PVR-250? |
12:59 | Octane> | you want to use your ir blaster to send signals to the settop box, right? |
12:59 | nbro> | just did a man irsend |
12:59 | Octane> | no proble here pmoreau; what soundcard? |
12:59 | Octane> | you using rca or tuner |
12:59 | nbro> | the cable box ? |
12:59 | nbro> | GI digital cable box and PVR-250 tuner |
13:00 | Octane> | i was talking to pmoreau |
13:00 | nbro> | ah. |
13:00 | Octane> | nbro: you want to use your ir blaster to send signals to the settop box, right? |
13:00 | nbro> | yup |
13:00 | pmoreau> | Creative SB something of another, The sound starts off in sync then get's ahead of the video, till it's about 2 seconds or so, then starts to break up. |
13:00 | Octane> | okay. you have one instance of lirc running? |
13:00 | Octane> | or two? |
13:00 | nbro> | right now none but will have one for hauppauge remote and one for serial port |
13:01 | nbro> | i guess i just started the serial port with the lirc_serial command |
13:01 | Octane> | okay im really confused |
13:01 | Octane> | you have one running obviously |
13:02 | pmoreau> | I've had the SB in several Linux boxes and never a problem. |
13:02 | Smokie> | I have not enough space on hdd for timeshift. Is it possible to turn the background recording off ? |
13:02 | Octane> | sorry pmoreau, i dont know |
13:02 | nbro> | yes, i have lirc with the remote working in mythtv however i need to get the IR blaster working which is what i am trying to do now |
13:02 | pmoreau> | K, thanx |
13:02 | Peit|Home> | pahli_bar: i transcoded a film, but it disn't work as well as i wanted, so i tried to roll it back by copying a backup in it's place, but it had lost the cutlist, which i tried to re-create using mythcomflag |
13:02 | Octane> | okay so you have TWO lircs running? |
13:03 | nbro> | yes |
13:03 | Peit|Home> | pahli_bar: the file has a slight error in it, and now i can't seek past it, where as i used to be able to. |
13:03 | nbro> | lirc for remote that runs and lirc_serial which i think may be running but need to figure out ircsend command |
13:03 | Octane> | okay, so is your grey remote working fine? |
13:03 | nbro> | yup |
13:03 | Octane> | whats the name of your second lirc instance? |
13:03 | nbro> | uh... 2nd instance ? |
13:04 | nbro> | all i have done is modprobe lirc_serial |
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13:04 | nbro> | now not sure what to do next,,,, |
13:04 | Octane> | have you read about what youre trying to do at all? its a little bit more complicated than that |
13:04 | Octane> | search the mailing list dude |
13:04 | nbro> | yeah, i have done some reading |
13:05 | Octane> | refer to this howto: http://members.cox.net/rwraithr/ |
13:05 | Octane> | its not 100% what you want to do |
13:05 | Octane> | but it will guide you |
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13:05 | Octane> | use lirc_serial instead of lirc_Sir |
13:05 | nbro> | my main concern is being able to get the ir blaster i have working |
13:05 | Octane> | is your ir blaster known to work with lirc? |
13:05 | nbro> | it is IrDA 1.1 so it should be supported by lirc |
13:06 | Octane> | alright |
13:06 | Octane> | you first need to decide if you want to just use your hauppauge remote or use both the blaster adn the remote |
13:06 | Octane> | if you want the former: its easy, rebuild lirc with irda support and load up lirc_serial, if you want the ladder read that howto and createa second lirc instance |
13:06 | nbro> | i will need to use both, since the PC needs to be able to change channels to record stuff on it's own |
13:07 | Octane> | it can just have an ir blaster to do that |
13:07 | Octane> | you dont need the grey remote to do that |
13:07 | nbro> | right but when i want to watch live tv i need to use the grey remote for changing channels on my own and stuff |
13:08 | Octane> | (youd ont have to , you can use a keyboard but anyway) |
13:08 | Octane> | okay so you want two instances |
13:08 | nbro> | yup |
13:08 | Octane> | follow the first part of robert's guide |
13:08 | Octane> | and create a second lirc instance named remote |
13:08 | nbro> | ok, thanks, i'll do that now |
13:08 | Octane> | it will sit on a different char major |
13:08 | Octane> | after you do that |
13:08 | Octane> | you want to load up lirc_serial |
13:08 | Octane> | not lirc_sir like he suggests |
13:08 | nbro> | ok.. well right now the remote works so i'll create a 2nd instance called irBlaster |
13:09 | Octane> | furthermore, i am assuming you used apt-get for lirc, so you dont need to follow the backup step |
13:09 | nbro> | ok, cool |
13:09 | Octane> | just the rename step (renaming all remote (former lirc) bins to remote_<bin>) |
13:09 | Octane> | then you gotta edit your modules.conf |
13:09 | Octane> | and your rc.local |
13:09 | Octane> | make sure your settings are different |
13:09 | Octane> | and make sure you also /sbin/rmmod serial |
13:09 | nbro> | why /sbin/rmmod serial ? |
13:09 | Octane> | and make sure your ttyS is 0 not 1 |
13:10 | Octane> | because you are removing linux's builtin serial support |
13:10 | Octane> | and using lirc's |
13:10 | Octane> | you can always test via the control center (assuming your in kde) |
13:10 | Octane> | and go to Information -> Ioports and information -> interrupts |
13:10 | Octane> | and make sure your lirc_serial (which will be named remote_serial) is being loaded properly |
13:10 | Octane> | right now if you go there |
13:10 | Octane> | you will see serial loaded |
13:11 | Octane> | also make sure your options remote_sir irq=3 io=0x2f8 reads options remote_sir irq=4 io=0x3f8 |
13:11 | Octane> | and like i said setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none instead of setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none |
13:11 | Octane> | that indicates its COM1 not COM2 |
13:11 | Octane> | because robert's (the guy who wrote the guide) blaster sits on com2 |
13:11 | Octane> | also i think you should skip step 7, though im not sure |
13:11 | Octane> | since your blaster is IrDA |
13:11 | Octane> | i think thats it :D |
13:12 | nbro> | wow. |
13:12 | Octane> | ? |
13:12 | nbro> | wish i had a printer to print all this off :) |
13:12 | Octane> | heh |
13:13 | Octane> | i wish mine worked, LOL |
13:13 | Octane> | waiting for another ir blaster, mine was a pos (actisys) |
13:13 | Octane> | this time around itll be a homebrew |
13:15 | nbro> | well i have 2 of these jeteye .. if one works you can have the other :) |
13:17 | Octane> | thank you for the offer ,but another is in the mail |
13:17 | Octane> | i am too scared of making a hoembrew |
13:17 | Octane> | ill probably fuck it up |
13:17 | Octane> | although it could be fun, maybe ill make one when this new one arrives and if it works :D |
13:18 | nbro> | what is "char major" |
13:18 | Octane> | its where modules sit |
13:19 | Octane> | youll notice in your modules.conf lirc has 61 |
13:19 | nbro> | ok... my "remote" instance of lirc will actually be running theblaster correct ? |
13:19 | Octane> | yes |
13:19 | Octane> | and itll be on 72 |
13:19 | Octane> | thats why you gotta edit all those files |
13:20 | nbro> | ah, ok |
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13:20 | nbro> | so i can skip step 1 though right, it isn't going to harm my current setup (it copies files, doesnt rename/change what is currently installed) |
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13:21 | Octane> | hmm |
13:21 | Zeran> | hmm |
13:22 | Zeran> | hey |
13:22 | Octane> | uhm |
13:22 | Octane> | no |
13:22 | Octane> | helo |
13:22 | Octane> | no you need step 1! lol! |
13:22 | Octane> | you gotta get lirc again |
13:22 | nbro> | ha, ok |
13:22 | nbro> | and where do i get lirc2remote.sh |
13:22 | Octane> | because it wont be lirc |
13:22 | Octane> | scroll down |
13:22 | Octane> | c&p in to vi and save |
13:22 | nbro> | ok :) |
13:23 | Octane> | dont forget, rmmod serial! |
13:23 | Octane> | he doesnt have it there |
13:23 | Octane> | but its important |
13:23 | Octane> | in rc.local |
13:23 | Octane> | http://members.cox.net/rwraithr/lirc2remote.sh |
13:23 | Octane> | there it is as well |
13:23 | Zeran> | you guys are familiar with linux modules? |
13:23 | Octane> | make sure to chmod +x and 755 |
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13:25 | Zeran> | hmmmm |
13:25 | nbro> | how long does it take to run and change all the ports and stuff ? |
13:26 | Zeran> | anyone have any tips as to what I should do if I accidentally waste /lib/modules/* ? :) |
13:26 | Octane> | you have to do it manually lol |
13:26 | nbro> | yeah, was just reading that part |
13:26 | Octane> | uh oh zerasn |
13:26 | Octane> | zeran |
13:26 | Octane> | lol |
13:26 | Octane> | nbro just do it! |
13:26 | Zeran> | well, I didnt waste it by hand |
13:26 | Octane> | itll atke 10 minutes |
13:26 | Octane> | to do it manually |
13:26 | nbro> | i dont have to do the rmmod serial until later though right ? |
13:26 | Zeran> | some other command obviously wasted it |
13:26 | Octane> | just add /sbin/rmmod serial to rc.local when editing rc.local |
13:26 | Octane> | one step at a time :) |
13:26 | Octane> | make sure you do it before set serial |
13:27 | Smokie> | I have not enough space on hdd for timeshift. Is it possible to turn the background recording off ? |
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13:28 | Octane> | get a new hdd |
13:28 | Smokie> | but xmas is past ... :-() |
13:29 | Zeran> | does anyone know what USED to be in /lib/modules/* ? |
13:29 | Octane> | lol smokie |
13:29 | Octane> | clear some shows out? |
13:29 | Smokie> | hmm, i am installing mythtv :-) |
13:29 | Octane> | Zeran, its all the modules of your kernel |
13:30 | Zeran> | hmm |
13:30 | Octane> | how big is your hdd |
13:30 | Zeran> | where can I reacquire these modules? |
13:30 | Octane> | uhm, apt-get install your kernel again? |
13:30 | Smokie> | 2.2G |
13:30 | Zeran> | hmmmm I dont think thats a good idea |
13:30 | Octane> | Zeran i suggest you go to #linuxhelp |
13:30 | Octane> | that is not mythtv related |
13:30 | Octane> | or #linux or #fedora or #redhat, whatever |
13:31 | Octane> | Smokie what o/s |
13:31 | Zeran> | there were mythtv related modules in there :) |
13:31 | Smokie> | os ? gentoo ? |
13:31 | Octane> | okay so your install wont be that big |
13:31 | Smokie> | i have 470 meg free |
13:31 | Smokie> | So there is no way to turn it off ? |
13:32 | Octane> | what do you want to use myth for if you can timeshift or record? |
13:32 | Octane> | cant* |
13:32 | Smokie> | mp3, epg ... divx .... |
13:32 | Octane> | on a networked drive? |
13:32 | Smokie> | jp |
13:32 | Smokie> | jo |
13:32 | Smokie> | first |
13:32 | Octane> | and you wanna just watch tv like normal with no timeshifting or recording? |
13:33 | Smokie> | for first, yes ... later (when my child is born) timeshift may be an option ... |
13:34 | Octane> | you can turn off recording all together |
13:34 | Octane> | i ams ure of it |
13:34 | Octane> | i just dont know how :P :( |
13:34 | Smokie> | is the qualitiy increasing than ? |
13:34 | Smokie> | lol |
13:34 | * | Matt pokes mikegrb |
13:35 | Octane> | hmm? |
13:37 | Smokie> | ohh, i thought fb is an option as i choose it on compile time :-() |
13:37 | Smokie> | can i turn it off, or do i need to recompile .... |
13:37 | Octane> | i am sure you can turn it off |
13:37 | Smokie> | but you don\xB4t know how ..:-() |
13:39 | Octane> | no sorry |
13:39 | Octane> | i know you can set the framebuffer to 1gb |
13:39 | Octane> | i think thats the minimum |
13:40 | Smokie> | ohh, the framebuffer is not the timeshift buffer. Framebuffer replaces X. |
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13:48 | meth> | is there any way with nuvexport to auto convert shows once a day |
13:48 | meth> | in a week its filled up 80G |
13:48 | meth> | 71G ./TV |
13:48 | meth> | lol |
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13:49 | Octane> | anyone know if i remove channels from my xmltv channel file |
13:49 | Octane> | will it remove it from the program guide all together |
13:50 | meth> | i think to remove from guide you gotta remove the chans from mysql |
13:50 | meth> | or remove them from xmltv and update the db |
13:50 | meth> | possibly run another mythfilldatabase after you remove, not sure tho |
13:51 | Octane> | alrighty thanks |
13:51 | Octane> | cuz i have a thousnad channels |
13:51 | Octane> | and half of them are bsd |
13:51 | Octane> | bs* |
13:52 | meth> | a thousand damn |
13:52 | meth> | i got like 50 hehe |
13:52 | Octane> | sometimes i wish i had 50 i swear |
13:52 | Octane> | lol |
13:52 | meth> | man i wish it auto reduced file sizes |
13:52 | meth> | tv epps at like 2G :/ |
13:53 | Octane> | use nuvexport |
13:53 | * | meth reduces recording quality |
13:53 | meth> | well nuvexport isnt automatic |
13:53 | meth> | ima make it automatic on my day off |
13:53 | meth> | i record everything on high quality.. ima stop doin that |
13:53 | meth> | i have no room to rip dvd's now :( |
13:53 | DogBoy> | do you have to save everything? |
13:54 | meth> | hehe ya |
13:54 | meth> | 320G or so full :( |
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13:54 | meth> | i gotta get another 160G drive |
13:54 | meth> | or the nerve to burn dvds |
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13:58 | nbro> | still around octane ? |
13:58 | Octane> | yes |
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13:59 | nbro> | i'm on step 3 where i have to select my device in the config secion |
13:59 | nbro> | should i just leave it as is ? |
14:00 | nbro> | (defualt value) |
14:00 | nbro> | i go into IrDA hardware but my device isn't present (only 4 devices their) |
14:01 | Octane> | hmm |
14:01 | Octane> | i dont know |
14:01 | Octane> | look for the irda compatible shit |
14:02 | Octane> | hey meth, so should i just remove the row sof the channels i dont want |
14:02 | meth> | ya |
14:02 | meth> | make sure their not in xmltv configs too |
14:02 | Octane> | cool, i also added not to the channels in the config |
14:02 | Octane> | yah |
14:02 | meth> | it 'should' work |
14:02 | meth> | but ive never done it |
14:02 | mikegrb> | this distcc stuff is awesome |
14:02 | meth> | distcc? |
14:02 | mikegrb> | yes |
14:03 | mikegrb> | uses multiple cpus on your network to compile something in parallel |
14:03 | mikegrb> | using thee computers to compile qt |
14:03 | meth> | nice |
14:03 | meth> | does it have to be lan? |
14:03 | mikegrb> | esecially when a 750mhz xbox is the one that needs qt compiled ;) |
14:03 | * | meth uses his servers to help compile :P |
14:03 | mikegrb> | it doesn't have to be |
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14:03 | mikegrb> | I used a colo box last night |
14:03 | meth> | i should set it up on my 4 2.4ghz servers hehe |
14:04 | meth> | convert all my movies at once |
14:04 | mikegrb> | the local computers were waiting for files to transfer back and forth a lot |
14:04 | Octane> | oh thats awesome mike |
14:04 | meth> | man it takes nuvexport a long time to encode :( |
14:04 | Octane> | that would have helped my freebsd kenrnel compile |
14:05 | meth> | looks like no tv shows for me tonight |
14:05 | meth> | ohh i can remove all the dupes heh |
14:06 | Octane> | hey meth, if i remove a channel from channel table... will it still show in program guide? |
14:06 | Octane> | if program table has shows from it |
14:09 | meth> | hm |
14:09 | meth> | not sure how it adds things to the program guide |
14:09 | meth> | but you will most likley need to repopulate the database, running the filldatabase program again |
14:10 | tmk> | deleting from the channel table is sufficient |
14:10 | meth> | ah good took 71G down to 55G by removing repeate tv shows |
14:11 | * | meth can be happy with the fact his shows will be recorded tonight |
14:11 | tmk> | as long as you remove the channels from the mythfilldatabase (aka xmltv) config files |
14:11 | meth> | ya octane so tmk agrees, should work |
14:12 | meth> | now to make nuvexport use cpu |
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14:13 | Octane> | thansk tmk :D |
14:13 | Octane> | and meth too |
14:13 | nbro> | shit when i run the configure i get this |
14:13 | nbro> | configure: error: *** you need to have the Linux kernel source installed |
14:13 | nbro> | for this driver |
14:14 | tmk> | the next course of action seems clear |
14:14 | meth> | lol |
14:16 | meth> | root 27239 1.2 0.5 10692 4724 pts/6 SN 13:58 0:13 ffmpeg -y -f s16le -ar 32000 -ac 2 -i fifodir/audout -f rawvideo -s 480x480 -r 29.97 -i fifodir/vidout -b 0256 -ab 064 -s 0320x0240 Aqua Teen Hungerforce |
14:16 | meth> | doesnt even show up on top |
14:16 | meth> | using nothing bah |
14:18 | Octane> | hmmm should i remove my music channels? :D |
14:18 | Octane> | yes i should! |
14:18 | Octane> | 100 channels of crapola! |
14:19 | meth> | hhehe |
14:19 | Octane> | see meth, there is a tenth right there that just sucks |
14:19 | Octane> | actually a 1/20th |
14:19 | meth> | ya |
14:19 | meth> | i get basic cable |
14:19 | meth> | working on satellite now |
14:19 | tmk> | i removed all the channels that are not tuner-able from my digital-cable svideo in |
14:19 | tmk> | so it doesn't try to record stuff the tuner could get |
14:20 | tmk> | and dirty my listings with duplicates |
14:20 | meth> | how well does this integrate with a sat/cable tuner |
14:20 | meth> | for digital cable per-say |
14:20 | meth> | i assume octane has digital cable |
14:21 | Octane> | yes he does |
14:21 | meth> | bah conveting to vcd uses plenty of cpu hehe |
14:21 | meth> | but will it take less time |
14:21 | meth> | octane do you need a cable receiver? |
14:21 | meth> | or is it just plugged into your capture card |
14:22 | Octane> | wall -> coax -> box -> svideo out |
14:22 | Octane> | -> pvr |
14:22 | meth> | so no digital cable receiver then |
14:22 | Octane> | i have a settop box |
14:22 | Octane> | but no receiver |
14:23 | meth> | so mythtv controls all channel changing and such |
14:23 | Octane> | oh wow cool |
14:23 | Octane> | removing stuff from channel table |
14:23 | Octane> | really helps |
14:23 | meth> | im trying to find out how well this can integrate into a satellite setup |
14:23 | Octane> | you guys were right |
14:23 | meth> | since a dvb-s card i dont thnk takes a sat. program card thingy |
14:24 | tmk> | octane: put in a splitter, and send the coax to both the pvr and the cable box |
14:24 | tmk> | that way if you want, you can watch other tv while it records |
14:24 | tmk> | if it's recording < channel 95 or w/e |
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14:24 | Octane> | badass idea |
14:24 | Octane> | so ill have two inputs to my pvr |
14:24 | meth> | ya |
14:24 | meth> | that would be cool |
14:24 | Octane> | that would be much faster too |
14:24 | Octane> | when changing channels |
14:24 | Octane> | for <100 |
14:25 | Octane> | but you know, the channels are actually different... like for example, 24 is XYZ w/ no box, and its different with the digital cable box |
14:25 | Octane> | has no significance, just intersting |
14:25 | tmk> | yeah |
14:26 | tmk> | like i said before.. what i did was remove all the non-digital channels from the tv-lineup for the cable-box->pvr input |
14:26 | Octane> | thats really smart |
14:26 | Octane> | and vice versa for the digital cable |
14:26 | Octane> | i assume |
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14:27 | tmk> | well for the tuner |
14:27 | tmk> | it''s a different xmltv entity |
14:27 | Octane> | that way you dont have duplicates |
14:27 | Octane> | yah i get it |
14:27 | Octane> | thats such a good idea! |
14:27 | * | Octane goes to dismantle the splitter from the living room |
14:27 | ofer> | heya, mythtv is cool, but i'm having trouble understanding backend vs master backend vs frontend |
14:28 | tmk> | master backend controls everything |
14:28 | ofer> | i have a backend on my desktop |
14:28 | tmk> | backend just means it has a tuner and can record |
14:28 | Octane> | backend is a server and frontend is client |
14:28 | ofer> | what about the tvlistings? |
14:28 | ofer> | are those on the back end or front end? |
14:28 | tmk> | only on master backend |
14:28 | tmk> | they all share a database |
14:29 | ofer> | im running the backend on my deskto pand a frontend on my laptop |
14:29 | ofer> | but the tvlistings from the backend dont show up |
14:29 | tmk> | check the console for errors |
14:30 | tmk> | and check your setup: you're probably not connecting to the database or something |
14:30 | tmk> | i'm sure this is dealt with in the documenataion |
14:30 | tmk> | and mailing-list |
14:30 | ofer> | there are no errors |
14:30 | ofer> | the documentation says set up everything like you did on the main except for the tuner card |
14:30 | ofer> | and the master backend should be picking up the tv listings |
14:30 | ofer> | but it's not |
14:30 | tmk> | are you running mythfilldatabase? |
14:31 | ofer> | it syas that the master backend should be picking up the listings, i. e. i should only need to run it on the mastr backend |
14:31 | ofer> | so, no =) |
14:31 | tmk> | the documentation mostly assumes that the front/backend are on the same box |
14:31 | tmk> | if the frontend is remote, you need to change a few things |
14:32 | * | Octane is enjoying looking at mythweb in browser's full screen mode |
14:33 | ofer> | k |
14:33 | ofer> | im followiing the directions to make my sql database have no security |
14:36 | ofer> | so i need to run the mythbackend on my laptop im assuming |
14:36 | ofer> | there has to be a mythbackend on every machine that runs mythfrontend? |
14:36 | D-side> | er, no. |
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14:37 | D-side> | there has to be a mythbackend on every machine that will be doing the encoding. |
14:37 | ofer> | ok |
14:37 | D-side> | i.e., every machine with a tuner card |
14:37 | ofer> | so only one machine in my case |
14:37 | D-side> | frontends can be completely standalone. |
14:37 | Octane> | duh |
14:37 | ofer> | ok |
14:37 | ofer> | that makes sense |
14:37 | ofer> | so how does the tv listings work? |
14:38 | Octane> | .. |
14:38 | D-side> | thats also done on the backend box. |
14:38 | D-side> | ofer: have you read the documentation? |
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14:39 | ofer> | bits and pieces, i'm running from the tutorial here http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ |
14:39 | ofer> | and reading the mythtv proper documentation as i run into problems |
14:39 | D-side> | sounds like you're going to confuse yourself. stick with the direct docs. |
14:40 | ofer> | if i run everything from the backend machine, it runs fine (albiet choppy for some reason) |
14:40 | ofer> | running the frontend on my laptop makes it smooth, but the tv listings arent being exported |
14:41 | Octane> | mmm getting all mame roms right now |
14:41 | Octane> | anyone want the torrent? |
14:41 | ofer> | and now for some reason running mythtvsetup or mythtvfrontend causes core dump on my laptop |
14:41 | D-side> | ofer: you should be getting the tv listings from the backend box solely. |
14:41 | D-side> | you should not have xmltv setup on the laptop |
14:42 | ofer> | i need mythtvsetup so ic an graphically stick in the master backend ip into mythtv |
14:42 | Octane> | very good |
14:42 | D-side> | ofer: well no. |
14:42 | D-side> | you can do that with mysql.txt. |
14:42 | D-side> | can and *should*, in fact. |
14:42 | D-side> | er |
14:42 | D-side> | yes that. that and just use the config tools off of mythfrontend. |
14:43 | ofer> | alright, im removing the backend off my laptop |
14:44 | ofer> | modified the sql.txt to read the ip of the master backend |
14:44 | ofer> | your telling me i shouldnt need mysql at all on the frontend |
14:44 | D-side> | thinking... |
14:44 | ofer> | that is the daemon |
14:45 | D-side> | i dont believe so, but i'm not sure. i only half-assed setup the frontend. its more a novelty to me than something in production. |
14:45 | D-side> | id have to say no, since I run the frontend without mysqld running. |
14:46 | ofer> | now to figure out why my frontend no longer starts without segfaulting |
14:47 | tmk> | you don't need mysql on the frontend |
14:51 | ofer> | you guys are geniouses! |
14:51 | ofer> | now to figure out why sound doesnt work =) |
14:52 | ofer> | figuured it out! |
14:52 | ofer> | yaya! |
14:52 | ofer> | thank you =) |
14:54 | ofer> | ok, heres another question, why is it slower to use the RTjpeg than the mpeg4 encoder? |
14:54 | ofer> | i have a 7200 rpm seagate with dma enabled |
14:55 | ofer> | but when running the frontend on that machine, it runs fine then chokes every couple of seconds |
14:56 | ofer> | with mpeg4 it works better |
14:56 | ofer> | and when running the frontend on my laptop its completly smooth (using mpeg4) |
14:56 | ofer> | it's an 866 pIII |
14:56 | ofer> | (the master backend) |
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14:59 | jbwiv> | hey guys...anyone using PVR-350 tv out? |
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15:19 | Crib> | Is there anyway to make mythtv mute commectials while viewing livetv? |
15:20 | Crib> | It would be cool if there were a way to make livetv switch to a screen saver, mute, and or play music from mythmusic when livetv encounters a commercial. |
15:20 | sfr> | Crib: why not simply skip commercials? |
15:21 | sfr> | Crib: our both ideas won't work for _live-tv_ |
15:24 | Crib> | 'our both ideas'? |
15:24 | Crib> | oh wait, i understand...it works AFTER the commercial huh |
15:24 | sfr> | heh, right |
15:25 | Crib> | in the book...what was it...the one by Carl Sagan... |
15:25 | Crib> | Contact |
15:25 | Crib> | The rich guy's first invention was a commercial detector. It worked by detecting scene change + volumne increase |
15:25 | D-side> | indeed. |
15:25 | D-side> | adnix. |
15:26 | Crib> | d-side...you referring to the fictional invention or a real thing? |
15:26 | D-side> | thats what Haddon had created. |
15:26 | D-side> | you said you read it.. |
15:26 | Crib> | Ah...heh |
15:26 | Crib> | I couldn't remember the product name dude |
15:26 | D-side> | great movie. greater book. |
15:26 | Crib> | Good memory |
15:27 | Crib> | mythtv is an awesome thing but it would be great if it could detect live commercials |
15:27 | mdz> | who wants to watch live TV? |
15:27 | Crib> | mdz, good point |
15:28 | Crib> | I guess there is no way of reliably doing that right now. |
15:28 | Crib> | What add detection method do you guys run? |
15:28 | Crib> | I'm just using the default |
15:29 | Crib> | 'blank frame detection |
15:29 | Crib> | I guess there is also blank frame + scene change or scene change |
15:29 | Crib> | I don't know which is best |
15:29 | sfr> | did you try scene change? |
15:29 | Crib> | live TV is nice for games and such. |
15:29 | D-side> | games? |
15:29 | Crib> | sfr, no i haven't had a chance to experiment, i'm still in week 1. |
15:30 | Crib> | like IU basketball |
15:30 | D-side> | oh okay. |
15:30 | D-side> | i thought meant like xbox/playstation |
15:30 | Crib> | nah that would be retarded |
15:30 | sfr> | Crib: i'm in week 34 or so and still haven't tried it. :) |
15:30 | D-side> | indeed. |
15:31 | Crib> | sfr: so you're using the default |
15:31 | Crib> | i find it works pretty well |
15:31 | Crib> | gets most commercials |
15:31 | Crib> | watching tv commercial free is the bomb |
15:31 | Crib> | i am experiencing reduced emotional stress levels |
15:31 | Crib> | hehe |
15:31 | sfr> | Crib: yes |
15:32 | Crib> | are any of you guys using mythweb or mythnews |
15:32 | Crib> | they are really flaky. |
15:32 | Crib> | i know they're unsupported |
15:32 | Crib> | mythnews doesn't seem "done" to me. |
15:32 | sfr> | mythweb works fine for me |
15:32 | Crib> | i get the first few lines of a news story and that is it |
15:32 | sfr> | and is supported/maintained afaik |
15:32 | Crib> | mythweb doesn't seem to work for me |
15:32 | mikegrb> | Crib: that is all you are supposed to get |
15:33 | D-side> | anyone actually try mythbrowser yet? no gentoo port yet so i'm holding off. |
15:33 | Crib> | mikegrb-just checking |
15:33 | mikegrb> | D-side: I concidered it but it had to many dependancies ;) |
15:33 | D-side> | heh |
15:33 | Crib> | i'm trying mythbrowser. btw i use gentoo but built everything from source |
15:33 | Crib> | because documentation is so much better |
15:33 | D-side> | i dont understand that statement. |
15:34 | Crib> | mythbrowser does not seem to work for me |
15:34 | D-side> | nor do i particularly wish to. afk. |
15:34 | Crib> | ok, in the mythbrowser setup there is a "browser:" setting |
15:34 | Crib> | it is pointed to /usr/local/bin/mythbrowser |
15:35 | Crib> | can i point it at mozilla? |
15:36 | Crib> | well here is the problem...there is no mythbrowser in /usr/local/bin |
15:36 | Crib> | weird...i did the ./configure, make, make install thing |
15:36 | sfr> | maybe it's libmythbrowser.so? |
15:36 | Crib> | i slocated it and it's not anywhere excet in the install directory |
15:37 | Crib> | is a .so a type of executable? |
15:37 | sfr> | no, a shared library afaik. look in /usr/local/lib/myth/plugins |
15:37 | Crib> | so i should point the thing at libmythbrowser.so? |
15:37 | Crib> | that seems non-intuitive |
15:38 | sfr> | i don't think so. but i don't use mythbrowser. |
15:40 | Crib> | i'm not going to mess with it. i'm having company from out of town tonight and i want to entertain. the last thing i need to do is fuck up everything |
15:40 | mikegrb> | there should be two things as far as I know |
15:40 | mikegrb> | the .so shared library |
15:41 | mikegrb> | which is the plugin and provides some sort of bookmark manager |
15:41 | mikegrb> | then this calles the actual mythbrowser executable with the url as a command line argument |
15:41 | mikegrb> | at least last I knew that is how it worked |
15:41 | mikegrb> | but I don't use it either |
15:42 | Crib> | mikegrb-so as far as you know, i can't specify for it to use mozilla? |
15:42 | mikegrb> | well I guess you could |
15:42 | mikegrb> | then the plugin would start it up |
15:42 | mikegrb> | but like I said I have no idea how it currently works |
15:43 | mikegrb> | initially just the browser was written |
15:43 | mikegrb> | then the plugin came later |
15:43 | Crib> | seems weird they wrote their own freakin browser |
15:43 | mikegrb> | not really |
15:43 | mikegrb> | it is just the khtml interpreter thingie |
15:43 | Crib> | mozilla has been around 4 years |
15:43 | mikegrb> | which is essentially the same parser as mozilla |
15:44 | Crib> | getting better and better, why not use it |
15:44 | mikegrb> | it uses mozilla code |
15:44 | Crib> | oh, well that makes sense |
15:44 | sfr> | Crib: it's the gui, stupid :) |
15:44 | mikegrb> | but you have to have the kde development stuff installed |
15:44 | Crib> | me=stupid = true |
15:44 | mikegrb> | I don't have kde on my frontend |
15:44 | Crib> | my kde is nice right now |
15:44 | sfr> | Crib: no. remember Churchill? |
15:44 | Crib> | i hooked it up last night |
15:45 | Crib> | the fat limey? |
15:45 | Crib> | yep. |
15:45 | mikegrb> | I use blackbox, it is a little xbox so it couldn't handle kde or gnome |
15:45 | mikegrb> | only around 60 mb available |
15:45 | mikegrb> | + of ram |
15:45 | Crib> | mikegrb if you're running this on an xbox you're a freakin pimp |
15:45 | Crib> | how do you capture tv? xbox = no pci slots right? |
15:47 | D-side> | you dont |
15:47 | D-side> | thats why its a frontend. |
15:47 | Crib> | oh sry i missed that part |
15:47 | mikegrb> | yup |
15:47 | Crib> | still that's pretty phat |
15:47 | mikegrb> | but dvd remote works |
15:47 | Crib> | NICE |
15:47 | D-side> | mikegrb: thtas new, isnt it/ |
15:47 | mikegrb> | though I hear the usb pvr drivers are getting there |
15:48 | mikegrb> | D-side: for a while |
15:48 | mikegrb> | mythtv even sets the color of the led on the front of the xbox to tell you if the backend is recording |
15:48 | Crib> | is there any way to disable my kde screen saver when mythfrontend starts? |
15:48 | Crib> | DAMN that is so tight |
15:48 | Crib> | how hard was it to get linux on the xbox? |
15:48 | mikegrb> | not too difficult |
15:49 | D-side> | mikegrb: i hadnt heard there was ANY support for the usb pvr. |
15:49 | mikegrb> | see xbox-linux.org and #xbox-linux on irc.oftc.net |
15:49 | mikegrb> | D-side: I don't really know what the state of it is /supposedly/ it works |
15:49 | Crib> | i'm guessing there is no dual boot right...i mean you can't still play xbox games right? |
15:49 | mikegrb> | there is a project on sf for it |
15:49 | mikegrb> | people come in #xbox-linux all the time talking about it |
15:50 | mikegrb> | say it works but I don't have first hand experience |
15:50 | Crib> | that is so dope. since microsoft loses money on every xbox you're really dicking redmond like 2 ways at once |
15:50 | Crib> | and if you're sharing tv files you record you're dicking the studios |
15:51 | Crib> | so you're dicking 3 ways at once |
15:51 | Crib> | that rules |
15:51 | Crib> | oh wait, you're skipping commercials too. |
15:51 | Crib> | even better |
15:51 | Crib> | that is some straight pimp shit |
15:51 | mikegrb> | heh |
15:51 | mikegrb> | do you have an xbox? |
15:51 | Crib> | yes i have an abnormal sense of right and wrong |
15:51 | Crib> | no, not yet |
15:52 | mikegrb> | ahh |
15:52 | Crib> | given my skills i'd probably just break it |
15:52 | mikegrb> | heh no quite easy |
15:52 | mikegrb> | you should checkout the website and drop by the irc channel |
15:52 | Crib> | well right now my financial investment in mythtv is about 15$ |
15:52 | Crib> | i'm using a wintv software card |
15:52 | Crib> | and a computer i 'checked out' from work |
15:53 | Crib> | and right now i'm broke as hell |
15:53 | Crib> | so i won't be doing that in the near future. |
15:53 | Crib> | something to think about though, esp if i can dual boot it. |
15:53 | Crib> | my friend has a mod chip that lets him record games on his xbox |
15:53 | Crib> | even more dicking |
15:54 | Crib> | i like the feeling i get when i'm getting over on corporations that are out to dick me over |
15:55 | Crib> | every time you build mythtv on a mod-chipped, dual boot x-box, an angel gets his wings |
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16:03 | pmoreau> | Anybody know of audio sync problems with playback of recorded TV with MythTV (12) |
16:05 | jbwiv> | anyone using PVR-350 tv out and getting lock ups? |
16:08 | pmoreau> | This IRC was buzzing a while ago, guess everybody's snoozing now ;) |
16:11 | Crib> | pmoreau-have you had it working so far? |
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16:12 | Crib> | pmoreau have you had it working so far? |
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16:13 | pmoreau> | I was having problems of no audio for a while till I got the muting problem fixed. It sis seem to work fine (audio in sync) but then started drifting. |
16:13 | Crib> | what kind of cards |
16:14 | pmoreau> | If I play back it starts in sync then the audio starts to get ahead of the video. If I use the arrow keys to skip forward it syncs up again then drifts again. |
16:15 | tmk> | pmor: playback in mythtv or mplayer? |
16:16 | pmoreau> | System: AMD2200+, ECS K7VTA3 MoBo, PVR-250, Creative SB something or another. MP3 play back fine. Haven't tried mplayer with a video DVD yet. |
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16:18 | Crib> | pmoreua-i'm sorry i have no knowledge of systems using the pvr250. i'd be wasting your time |
16:27 | tdb30_> | I'm getting choppyness when I watch tv. how can I fix this? Are their any settings? |
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16:52 | kro_afk> | Noticing weird behavior with mythtv.... When I start the frontend the first time, and try to watch live tv, the backend crashes. I then quit out of the frontend, restart the backend, and then the second time I connect everything works fine. wtf? |
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16:52 | kro> | If I reboot the computer and run the same test, the same behavior is exhibited. |
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17:39 | tdb30_> | I'm getting choppyness when I watch tv. how can I fix this? Are their any settings? |
17:40 | tdb30_> | I have a pvr-350 and an athlon 1000 and using ivtv-fb |
17:48 | tmk> | what sort of choppyness |
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17:57 | mechou> | I thoroughly confused regarding myth 13 commerical flagging. Watch a pre-recorded show,pressing "M" doesn't bring up any "red segments, but "Z" still works. Commercial flagging is set, and this is SW encode. What am I doing wrong? |
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20:00 | DJ_Rican> | hello |
20:00 | DJ_Rican> | how do i bring up the setup? |
20:02 | DJ_Rican> | do I HAVE to setup a frontend AND backend? i only have one machine |
20:02 | tmk> | yes |
20:02 | DJ_Rican> | i do? |
20:02 | DJ_Rican> | :( |
20:02 | DJ_Rican> | can it be done with one machine? |
20:03 | tmk> | yes |
20:03 | tmk> | please read the documentation |
20:04 | DJ_Rican> | ohh.. :) well, i'm in the 5.4 part of the guide and it says to run the Mythtv setup... |
20:04 | sfr_> | DJ_Rican: you installed from source? |
20:05 | Chutt> | continue reading the docs. |
20:05 | DJ_Rican> | k |
20:05 | Chutt> | section 5.4 does not say to run the setup program if it's a single machine config. |
20:05 | DJ_Rican> | i saw that... thanks |
20:06 | Chiphead> | heh |
20:13 | mechou> | hey chutt, I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong with commercial flagging. Pressing "M" while watching a prerecorded prog no longer brings up the "red segments" :( Are there other options I need to set? |
20:23 | Octane> | anyoen remember where the volume for mythtv is stored |
20:24 | Octane> | nm recording profiles |
20:39 | Chutt> | mechou, err, hit z while in edit mode. |
20:39 | Chutt> | as it says in keys.txt. |
20:39 | Chutt> | it's _always_ been that way |
20:43 | mechou> | Chutt, pressing Z doesn't seem to do it for me..... |
20:43 | mechou> | (while in edit mode) |
20:43 | mechou> | still get pure blue bar.... |
20:44 | mechou> | Z while watching _does_ skip to next (blank frame) |
20:49 | DJ_Rican> | hello |
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20:50 | DJ_Rican> | i need come help... on 9.1 of the instrcutions it says, If the frontend, backend, and Mysql database server are all going to run on the same box, you can continue to the next step. 9.2? |
20:51 | DJ_Rican> | or 10? |
20:52 | mechou> | 9.2 |
20:53 | DJ_Rican> | mechou: thanks |
20:53 | DJ_Rican> | mechou: can you look at that real quick... |
20:54 | mechou> | I'd recommend u read the docs once thru (before u do anything), and then do it step by step. |
20:54 | mechou> | DJ_Rican, look at what? |
20:55 | DJ_Rican> | 9.2... it says something about a previous step |
20:55 | DJ_Rican> | Run the mythfilldatabase program as directed. |
20:55 | DJ_Rican> | i didn't do that... |
20:55 | mechou> | I dont see what you're referring to. Paste text so I can search |
20:56 | DJ_Rican> | Run the mythfilldatabase program as directed. |
20:57 | DJ_Rican> | as directed where? |
20:58 | mechou> | DJ_Rican, as directed in ./setup |
20:58 | mechou> | u need to d/l epg data for ur area. |
20:59 | DJ_Rican> | you said to go to 9.2 |
20:59 | DJ_Rican> | epg? |
21:00 | mechou> | electronic programming guide. PLEASE take eveyone's advice, read docs completely before doing anything, plan out what u need to do. |
21:00 | DJ_Rican> | If the frontend, backend and MySQL database server are all going to be running on the same box, you can continue to the next step. <-- that is in 9.1 |
21:01 | mechou> | netx step refers to /usr/local/share/mythtv/mysql.txt |
21:02 | mechou> | u still need to do ./setup |
21:02 | DJ_Rican> | ahh... ok.. :) |
21:02 | Chutt> | next step, not next section. |
21:02 | DJ_Rican> | k |
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21:09 | DJ_Rican> | i know it's a stupid question but how do i find out what my video sources are? |
21:09 | mechou> | chutt, if I do Sw encode, do I need to check "automatically flag commercials?" (I thought that was only for HW encode, i.e. mythcommflag is run after recording, not "inline like SW encode....) |
21:10 | mechou> | DJ_Rican: u define them in ./setup |
21:10 | Chutt> | if it's not checked, then it won't flag commercials |
21:10 | mechou> | like Cable, VCR, whatever.... |
21:10 | DJ_Rican> | mechou: but i need to know what they are... video0, video2, etc |
21:12 | Chutt> | you're supposed to have tested that your tuner card drivers work with another app, first. |
21:12 | Chutt> | so you should know what's what |
21:13 | mechou> | DJ_Rican, in your case, remember test_ioctl? |
21:13 | DJ_Rican> | mechou: i did that... |
21:14 | DJ_Rican> | couldn't capture anything but test_ioctl works |
21:14 | mechou> | right remember the cat step?? |
21:14 | DJ_Rican> | yes |
21:14 | mechou> | which device didu use? |
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21:15 | mechou> | and dont bother w/myth unless u capture something successfully w/ test_ioctl |
21:15 | tmk> | DJ: svideo/composite in is composite 0, tuner is tuner 0 |
21:15 | tmk> | assuming normal american card |
21:15 | Chutt> | tmk, apparently some cards aren't that way anymore |
21:15 | tmk> | i know, but mostly foreign :) |
21:15 | Chutt> | the gateway ones are different |
21:16 | DJ_Rican> | mechou: i didn't have to put in a video source... |
21:16 | tmk> | are they hauppauge branded? |
21:16 | Chutt> | i dunno |
21:16 | Chutt> | my composite in is composite 4, i think |
21:16 | Chutt> | the one that's out of order |
21:16 | tmk> | oh hm |
21:16 | DJ_Rican> | ok, now i'm lost... :( |
21:16 | Chutt> | i don't remember which card that is |
21:16 | Chutt> | though =) |
21:16 | DJ_Rican> | mec |
21:17 | Chutt> | dj_rican, give up and install windows |
21:17 | DJ_Rican> | hou: how am i supposed to capture something on my card without tv channels etc? |
21:17 | mechou> | DJ_Rican, from ivtv docs: [root@host]# cat /dev/video0 > first_capture.mpg |
21:17 | DJ_Rican> | ahh.. i did that but it didn't capture anything |
21:17 | mechou> | and dont bother w/myth unless u capture something successfully w/ test_ioctl |
21:18 | DJ_Rican> | by something you mean????.... |
21:18 | mechou> | video |
21:18 | DJ_Rican> | so i have to connect a vcr or something? |
21:18 | mechou> | do things step by step. |
21:19 | mechou> | VCR, cable whatever.... |
21:19 | DJ_Rican> | cable is connected but it didn't capture anything |
21:19 | mechou> | ten dont bother using myth till u got that figured out. |
21:20 | mechou> | then |
21:20 | DJ_Rican> | k |
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22:00 | meth> | fn~DJ_Rican you tested your cable connection on another tv? |
22:00 | meth> | making sure it works |
22:00 | * | meth notices hes 40mins to late |
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22:03 | annoia> | It seems like my tv-tuner is adjusting the volume automatically... Is this normal? |
22:04 | DJ_Rican> | meth: yes |
22:04 | DJ_Rican> | i can connect it to my tv and it works fine... |
22:07 | DJ_Rican> | MPlayer: The project from hell |
22:07 | DJ_Rican> | MPlayer works fine once you get past the tyro-written installation script & docs |
22:07 | DJ_Rican> | no wonder i've been so frustrated... hehe |
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22:51 | tdb30_> | can somone give me some pointers on settings to get live tv working better? my problem is that I'm getting choppyness. I'm using an athlon 10000, prv-350, |
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23:10 | tmk> | did you select 'use pvr350 tv-out' in the options? |
23:11 | tdb30_> | humm. not sure ;) |
23:11 | tmk> | if you don't then it'll be really crappy |
23:11 | tmk> | like 2 fps |
23:11 | mikegrb> | heh |
23:12 | tdb30_> | where would I find it? |
23:13 | tmk> | mythfrontend->settings->tv->playback->next->next |
23:13 | mikegrb> | in mythtv settings -> tv |
23:13 | mikegrb> | yeah there |
23:13 | mikegrb> | :) |
23:14 | tdb30_> | found it |
23:14 | tmk> | that'll make a world of difference |
23:14 | tdb30_> | it did |
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23:17 | tdb30_> | arrg.. no audio |
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23:22 | tmk> | make sure the source file has audio |
23:22 | tmk> | and check your wiring |
23:22 | tmk> | the audio comes out of the pvr350 itself |
23:28 | tdb30_> | right. |
23:36 | tdb30_> | okay. what about for playback? |
23:36 | tdb30_> | does it use dsp or th pvr? |
23:37 | Chutt> | the card, of course. |
23:37 | Chutt> | the whole 'hardware decoder' thing? |
23:37 | tdb30_> | I mean playback from recorded programs. |
23:37 | Chutt> | the fact that the pvr-350 has audio output plugs? |
23:37 | tdb30_> | is it the same thing? |
23:37 | Chutt> | why would it be different? |
23:38 | tdb30_> | I thought the audio out plugs only worked when you were using the tuner. |
23:38 | Chutt> | that makes absolutely no sense |
23:38 | Chutt> | why would input affect the output? |
23:38 | tdb30_> | just something I heard. |
23:38 | Chutt> | from where? |
23:39 | tdb30_> | basicly that the audio was tied to the tuner on the pvr 350 |
23:39 | Chutt> | where did you hear that? |
23:39 | tdb30_> | I thought I heard it on the ivtv-dev channel |
23:39 | tdb30_> | but I'll take your word for it |
23:39 | Chutt> | whoever said that is a moron |
23:40 | tdb30_> | irc is just an extension of the internet. Even the stupid have a voice and its just as loud as people that know what they are talking about... anyway. choppyness is gone. Thanks. |
23:41 | tdb30_> | arrg the stream just quit. |
23:42 | tdb30_> | rather. The computer locked up... |
23:43 | tdb30_> | I think thats an ivtv thing. I hear they have issues with changing channels and stuff. |
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23:57 | mizery> | woot, this opens a whole new way of troubleshooting. I'm having trouble running mythtv. http://mizery.nullvoid.org for screenshot. Specifically I am having trouble connecting to the mysql database. Not sure why. Take a look at the screenshot for details |
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