| --- | Log | opened Sun Dec 28 00:00:45 2003 |
| 00:00 | GreyFoxx> | Did you set a password for the mythtv user other than "mythtv" ? |
| 00:00 | mizery> | no, I used mythtv |
| 00:01 | mizery> | editing it now: http://mizery.nullvoid.org to see me in action |
| 00:01 | GreyFoxx> | Have you relaoded, or stopped+started Mysql since creating the newuser/password ? |
| 00:01 | mizery> | will do so now |
| 00:02 | mizery> | blah, how do I restart mysql? |
| 00:03 | tmk> | run /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 00:03 | tmk> | assuming redhat |
| 00:03 | GreyFoxx> | depends on how you installed it. Some have a mysql_server init script, some have rc.mysql, etc |
| 00:03 | tmk> | chutt: i sent you an email |
| 00:03 | GreyFoxx> | you could also do a mysqladmin -uroot -prootpassword reload |
| 00:03 | mizery> | restarted |
| 00:03 | mizery> | same problem |
| 00:03 | GreyFoxx> | what do you get if you attempt to connect manually? |
| 00:04 | GreyFoxx> | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| 00:04 | mizery> | hrmm, http://mizery.nullvoid.org |
| 00:04 | mizery> | k, I'll work on that |
| 00:09 | mizery> | I am not sure what's wrong. It appears the privileges are set correctly. |
| 00:09 | mizery> | http://mizery.nullvoid.org to see what privileges mythtv has for the mythconverg table |
| 00:09 | GreyFoxx> | You are connecting from localhost right? Not from another box? what happens when you try a mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg ? |
| 00:09 | mizery> | yeah, from localhost |
| 00:10 | mizery> | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) (as seen in screen capture |
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| 00:11 | GreyFoxx> | Do you have logging enabled? Check the log to see what it's showing you as connecting from? |
| 00:11 | GreyFoxx> | For example is it showing mythtv@localhost, mythtv@127.0.0.1 or mythtv@192.168.0.1 |
| 00:12 | mizery> | /var/log/mysql/mysql.err? |
| 00:12 | mizery> | no data in that file |
| 00:13 | mizery> | nor mysql.log |
| 00:13 | GreyFoxx> | no, it would be something like yourhostname.log |
| 00:13 | GreyFoxx> | located in your mysql data directory |
| 00:13 | GreyFoxx> | for example on my box mysql is installed into /home/mysql, my mysql data dir is /home/mysql/var and my logfile is /home/mysql/var/woop.log since my box hostname is woop |
| 00:22 | mizery> | I just updated the files database and "locate *.log | grep -l sql" only lists one file. |
| 00:23 | mizery> | which is weird |
| 00:23 | mizery> | oh nm |
| 00:23 | mizery> | grep -i localhost has no results |
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| 01:05 | meth> | /var/log/mysql/mysql.log |
| 01:05 | meth> | damn always late |
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| 02:45 | meth> | erm nuvexport only does about 30seconds of my tv epps :/ |
| 02:50 | Rroet> | moin |
| 02:53 | meth> | 5.9G ALLMUSIC 5.2G Anime 63G DVD 28G MOVIES 2.2G MUSIC 8G XTRA |
| 02:53 | meth> | whered mah space go! |
| 02:53 | meth> | 120G 111G 2.4G |
| 02:53 | meth> | 2.4G Free :( |
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| 05:06 | mizery> | I'm still having trouble creating mythtv user in mysql. I can't seem to login to mysql even giving mythtv all global privileges. |
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| 05:10 | mizery> | I even followed the guide at http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html just now and execed "mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql" which was successful. I then tried logging in using mythtv and no luck |
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| 08:58 | hardwired> | the mythtv.org webserver hangs... |
| 09:07 | Rroet> | mm... crap: Ivor Hewitt's laptop broke .. so the libddmpeg project is currently halted :( |
| 09:07 | hardwired> | what libddmpeg? |
| 09:08 | hardwired> | s/what/whats |
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| 10:53 | pahli_bar> | hmm. looks like the website and cvs server are down |
| 10:54 | hardwired> | yeh |
| 10:54 | hardwired> | for a few hours already |
| 10:55 | pahli_bar> | is there an alternate site for the cvs server |
| 10:56 | hardwired> | dunno |
| 10:56 | hardwired> | tell me if you found one |
| 10:56 | pahli_bar> | heh |
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| 11:18 | pahli_bar> | Chutt: you awake? |
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| 11:27 | hardwired> | maybe I'll put an opengl card in my box just for the goom plugin |
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| 11:54 | nou_> | hiya |
| 11:54 | nou_> | topic doesn't say anything, is there something wrong with http://www.mythtv.org/ ? |
| 11:54 | hardwired> | there seems to be, at the moment |
| 11:55 | nou_> | any mirror site ? |
| 11:55 | hardwired> | dunno |
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| 12:11 | grillvanten> | i need som advices.. can I make my p3 500mhz work with mythtv? it lags hell when just watching livetv. can I set it up somehow for better performance? |
| 12:12 | sfr> | grillvanten: lower the resolution |
| 12:13 | hardwired> | mythmusic has some problems when an mp3 had both an id3v1 and id3v2 tag |
| 12:13 | grillvanten> | its like 480x480 now.. |
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| 12:21 | hardwired> | i just hope this isn't already fixed in cvs... :) |
| 12:22 | sfr> | hardwired: what kind of problems? |
| 12:23 | hardwired> | sfr: i am just trying to fix it... the 'genre' is duplicated for certain mp3s. For instance, one of my mp3s correctly has 'Blues' as genre, another one has 'BluesBlues' |
| 12:23 | hardwired> | they differ in that the incorrect one has both and idev1 and id3v2 tag, the correct one only id3v2 |
| 12:25 | sfr> | hardwired: aaah, that's a long-standing bug indeed. i never looked at it as i (assumed) my mp3's only have id3v2 tags but obviously some have both tags. |
| 12:25 | hardwired> | yeh, at the beginning, all my mp3s had v1 only, and at some point i switched to v2, and some have both as it seems |
| 12:25 | * | sfr goes to check his easytag settings. it should remove id3v1 tags |
| 12:26 | hardwired> | that's one way to fix it... :) |
| 12:26 | hardwired> | do you know whether the bug is with mythmusic or libid3tag? |
| 12:26 | sfr> | not really, sorry. |
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| 12:27 | hardwired> | np. i'll see if i can fix it |
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| 12:28 | sfr> | if you are already looking at it, i'd like mythmusic to prefer id3v2 tags if both types are stored. |
| 12:28 | sfr> | :) |
| 12:29 | sfr> | btw, should that be 'as you...'? |
| 12:31 | hardwired> | there's lots of stuff i'd like to see improved with mythmusic... to get to know it i decided to see if i can fix some small bugs, then propose some improvments |
| 12:32 | grillvan1en> | is it possible to make the liveTV to just show tv? not prebuffer or anything.. but to have it just like in xawtv? |
| 12:33 | sfr> | grillvan1en: you can have it start an external tv appl. but you loose all mythtv features. iirc look in tvmenu.xml |
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| 12:34 | grillvan1en> | sfr: okej.. but lowering the resolution might help. i have 480x480.. what would you suggest? |
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| 12:34 | sfr> | grillvan1en: try a few settings and see if they work for you. i use a pvr350 card here. |
| 12:35 | grillvan1en> | sfr: okey.. i'll try and see.. |
| 12:36 | c0nflict> | I am shopping around for a mythtv box, does anyone know if the pvr-350 will fit in a low profile slot? I want to use a microATX case. |
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| 13:04 | nou_> | hmm using mythvideo+mplayer, what's the correct way to use a remote control with it ? |
| 13:05 | nou_> | does mythtv receive lirc command then pass them to mplayer ? |
| 13:13 | hardwired> | nou_: i use irxevent |
| 13:13 | c0nflict> | is it just me or is mythtv.org down? |
| 13:13 | hardwired> | c0nflict: it is |
| 13:14 | hardwired> | nou_: irexec i mean |
| 13:14 | c0nflict> | search googles cache is quite annoying for list archives =p |
| 13:15 | hardwired> | haha, yeah. do something else for a while :) |
| 13:15 | c0nflict> | its too early to drink beer |
| 13:15 | hardwired> | true :) |
| 13:16 | sfr> | c0nflict: there's a better archive at gossamer threads, sorry i don't have an exact url available. |
| 13:16 | c0nflict> | ah cool, I'll look |
| 13:16 | c0nflict> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/ |
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| 13:16 | c0nflict> | thx |
| 13:17 | sfr> | c0nflict: have a beer on me :) |
| 13:17 | c0nflict> | np :) |
| 13:18 | c0nflict> | now if I can find someone saying their pvr-350 fits in a low profile slot I'll be happy |
| 13:18 | meth> | fn~nou_ still around? |
| 13:19 | meth> | nou_ |
| 13:19 | nou_> | yep |
| 13:20 | meth> | can someone send me tv_grab_na, i cant compile since my perl is to new, i spose.. |
| 13:20 | nou_> | hardwired: do u mean using irexec instead of native lirc ? |
| 13:20 | meth> | nou_ i have mplayer setup with lirc |
| 13:20 | meth> | i dont belive mythtv controls it |
| 13:20 | meth> | nou_ you use irexec to start mythtv, irxevent to control things inside it |
| 13:20 | meth> | then irexec to control mplayer |
| 13:20 | hardwired> | nou_: i use irexec to control mplayer, and native lirc to control myth |
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| 13:21 | meth> | can someone send me their tv_grab_na |
| 13:23 | nou_> | ok thx for ur answers, in fact i can use native lirc with both mythtv and mplayer |
| 13:24 | nou_> | i can put it on a webserver |
| 13:25 | meth> | what ir remote/receiver do you have |
| 13:26 | nou_> | it's a noname multi functions remote, and lirc_sir (motherboard irda module) |
| 13:26 | hardwired> | nou_: ahh, yes, you are right, i mixed things up. I use native lirc for both myth and mplayer, i use irexec only for the mapping of my reboot and power-down button |
| 13:28 | meth> | what ir receiver/remote do you have hardwired |
| 13:28 | hardwired> | meth: hauppauge grey remote plus matching receiver |
| 13:28 | meth> | ah hehe |
| 13:28 | hardwired> | and another one i didn't try |
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| 13:44 | nou_> | is there a way to avoid the "Unknown Artist ~ /mp3/path/another/directory/filename.mp3" title when files have no id tag in mythmusic ? |
| 13:44 | nou_> | it's annoying and it doesn't fit on the screen |
| 13:44 | DJ_Rican> | hello |
| 13:44 | DJ_Rican> | :( |
| 13:44 | hardwired> | yes, make mythmusic ignore id3 tags and use directory structure for sorting |
| 13:44 | hardwired> | ^-- nou_ |
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| 13:48 | nou_> | that doesn't change anything |
| 13:49 | sfr> | unknown artists are unknown artists. there's an option to determine song details from the filename. |
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| 13:54 | racer> | nou i have the same problem even my tags are filled |
| 13:54 | engie> | Hi. Does anyone know of a utility to scan through the tuner frequencies and pick up stations? |
| 13:55 | racer> | some albums display ok, some not, even when the id3 tags are ok! |
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| 13:55 | racer> | tried sveral things but can't find the problem till now |
| 13:55 | nou_> | it's sad, there isn't so much documentation |
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| 13:56 | racer> | think there is a bug somewhere with the filling of the database |
| 13:56 | racer> | has to be because i know for sure the tags are ok |
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| 13:56 | sfr> | nou_: not yet, somebody (you?) has to start writing it. |
| 13:57 | hardwired> | racer: check the database and see if it's filled correctly |
| 13:57 | hardwired> | racer: then tell me |
| 13:57 | racer> | the database is filled with the song name including the path so no tags |
| 13:57 | nou_> | the basic documentation has to be written by the authors |
| 13:58 | nou_> | i can guess but i would loose time |
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| 14:00 | racer> | database example: /hd2/Music/A-C/Abba/Gold Greatest Hits/06 - Super Trouper.mp3 |
| 14:00 | racer> | in field title |
| 14:01 | sfr> | i don't think there's a paragraph in the GPL that forces authors to add a user manual to their s/w. :). it's a lot of work and for now documenting the installation process has been the focus afaik. |
| 14:01 | racer> | and this in filename: |
| 14:01 | racer> | A-C/Abba/Gold Greatest Hits/06 - Super Trouper.mp3 |
| 14:01 | nou_> | in the same time i don't expect authors to write documentation when they're not able to comment their code |
| 14:02 | nou_ | is now known as nou |
| 14:03 | sfr> | racer: this is latest cvs. did you see this also with earlier versions? |
| 14:03 | racer> | yep, as long as i use mythmusic! |
| 14:04 | racer> | why things changed recently |
| 14:04 | racer> | ? |
| 14:04 | racer> | in mythmusic? |
| 14:04 | sfr> | racer: not much. i changed the filename field to only hold the path relative to the music location. it used to be the absolute path in older versions. |
| 14:06 | racer> | ah ok i see |
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| 14:06 | racer> | think i found something for my problem, at least it has something to do with it |
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| 14:07 | racer> | my songs have a name like this: 01 - sdfdjsdkfdklsfs.mp3 |
| 14:07 | * | sfr is happy the change is working for others too :) |
| 14:07 | racer> | if i remove the songnumber (01) things are going better |
| 14:07 | racer> | have to test it further more |
| 14:13 | racer> | no one knows this problem? |
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| 14:15 | nou> | i'm updating music database, i'll change it manually because i don't like to that "unknown artist" |
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| 14:16 | Chutt> | bitch bitch bitch |
| 14:16 | Chutt> | all you have to do is have proper tags |
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| 14:21 | DJ_Rican> | my mythfilldatabase keeps running in a loop...?? |
| 14:22 | Chutt> | dj_rican, look at the dates. |
| 14:22 | DJ_Rican> | how days does it get? |
| 14:22 | Chutt> | it says in the docs. |
| 14:22 | DJ_Rican> | you can't type one single character and tell me? |
| 14:22 | Chutt> | nope |
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| 14:24 | racer> | maybe chutt, but if you have the filename's numbered than the tags don't work! |
| 14:25 | Chutt> | um |
| 14:25 | Chutt> | it doesn't use the filename if you have proper tags. |
| 14:25 | Chutt> | at _all_ |
| 14:25 | Chutt> | unless you've told it to use the filename and not the tags |
| 14:25 | racer> | i now removed all the numbers from the filename and now database is correct filled with tag info |
| 14:25 | racer> | not true chutt, i told him to use tags!!!!! |
| 14:26 | racer> | did not change option and only changed filenames now its correct |
| 14:26 | Chutt> | i wrote the code, i know what it does. |
| 14:27 | racer> | usually bugs are not found by the programmer :) |
| 14:27 | Chutt> | there's a difference between a bug and totally different behavior |
| 14:28 | racer> | so what is according to you the behaviour of this option? |
| 14:28 | Chutt> | of what option? |
| 14:29 | racer> | to not ignore the id3 tags? |
| 14:29 | Chutt> | the tag parsing does not use the filename at all |
| 14:29 | racer> | yeah thats what i thought |
| 14:29 | racer> | try this: |
| 14:30 | Chutt> | all my songs have their track numbers prepended to the filename. |
| 14:30 | Chutt> | works fine. |
| 14:30 | racer> | :) |
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| 14:30 | racer> | of course :( |
| 14:30 | racer> | but you are the programmer |
| 14:30 | Chutt> | if you think it's a bug, find the problem and submit a patch |
| 14:32 | racer> | i dont write programs just wanted to let you know of this problem! |
| 14:32 | racer> | and i saw Nou_ had the same problem |
| 14:32 | racer> | so there are more i think! |
| 14:33 | Chutt> | i can't fix problems i can't reproduce. |
| 14:34 | meth> | can someone send me tv_grab_na |
| 14:34 | sfr> | meth: can't you d/l it? |
| 14:35 | meth> | wont install with my perl version for some reason |
| 14:35 | meth> | and the ebuild in portage refuses to let me install _na |
| 14:35 | racer> | there you have a point chutt! |
| 14:36 | sfr> | meth: tv_grab_na is enough i hope. i have 0.5.25 (but from the debian package) |
| 14:36 | meth> | i have all of it installed just no _na |
| 14:36 | meth> | tho i dont think it works with my perl |
| 14:36 | meth> | v5.8.2 |
| 14:37 | sfr> | meth: same here but i don't use xmltv. |
| 14:37 | meth> | how do you update the program guide then |
| 14:38 | sfr> | meth: with a tv guide on paper and a few code-monkeys updating the epg in my cellar :) |
| 14:39 | meth> | nice hehe |
| 14:39 | sfr> | meth: there's a python script for my area which i use |
| 14:40 | meth> | anyone have a pchdtv card? |
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| 15:07 | engie> | Hi. Does anyone know what card type and tuner type to use for an MM100 PCTV card? |
| 15:11 | Matt> | MM100? |
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| 15:13 | sfr> | engie: did you check the kernel documentation? there's an extensive list of cards with details. |
| 15:16 | engie> | It's there, but it seems to be the only one without a tuner type listed ! |
| 15:17 | engie> | I've got a cx88 based card - do you know how far along those drivers are? |
| 15:20 | Matt> | some of the bttv cardtypes will happily auto-detect the tuner type |
| 15:20 | Matt> | I know it does with my miro pctv |
| 15:21 | engie> | Right |
| 15:21 | pmoreau> | What video cards are you guys using? I have an ATI9200SE and it seems slow. I get choppy video and really lags the audio. |
| 15:21 | Rroet> | wheeee... for all ivtv users, there is an ivtv-cvs ebuild in the making. |
| 15:21 | engie> | Arg, machine keeps crashing..... |
| 15:22 | pmoreau> | Im using ivtv with a PVR250 |
| 15:22 | Rroet> | pmoreau: well, there is an ebuild in the making. |
| 15:23 | Rroet> | I just got it sent over by Brian (iggy <at> gentoo) ... and I've corrected it to some errors I found.. |
| 15:23 | pmoreau> | I don't seem to have problems with the PVR |
| 15:23 | Rroet> | looks like a solid ebuild right now. |
| 15:23 | Rroet> | pmoreau: I do have problems, some times in recordings my sound is gone :( |
| 15:24 | Rroet> | pmoreau: it also contains the newest hauppauge firmware drivers. |
| 15:24 | pmoreau> | My sound it there, just leads the video so much that it chops waiting for the video |
| 15:25 | pmoreau> | Anybody try the KnoppMyth distribution? I'm using R4 |
| 15:25 | pmoreau> | Is uses MythTV 0.12 |
| 15:25 | Rroet> | <-- myth 0.13 release2 |
| 15:25 | Rroet> | works wonderfull now. |
| 15:26 | nou> | is there a way to horizontally scroll filename/title in play music @mythmusic ? |
| 15:27 | sfr> | nou: install mythmusic < 0.10 iirc :) it did that for the currently playing song. |
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| 15:27 | Rroet> | sfr: rofl |
| 15:27 | nou> | ok :) |
| 15:28 | pmoreau> | Anybody out there use an ATI9200SE? If not, I'm going to try another card. I would like to hear what cards you guys are using with the PVR-250 and having good success. |
| 15:28 | nou> | and the author decided to remove that function ? |
| 15:28 | Rroet> | ehm, pmoreau I'm using a Epia-M system with onboard CLE266. |
| 15:28 | sfr> | pmoreau: as long as Xvideo is working, almost any card should be fine i believe. i use a Matrox Marvel G400 myself. |
| 15:29 | Rroet> | so I can't be much of a help. I heard a load of people getting it to work on various cards.. ati / matrox / Nvidia are all well supported |
| 15:29 | pmoreau> | My MoBo is the ECS K7VTA3 no onboard video. |
| 15:30 | sfr> | nou: not really. the whole gui got improved, removing the need (not for everyone it seems) for scrolling |
| 15:30 | pmoreau> | No luck with the onboard audio so I'm using a SB-Live! |
| 15:30 | nou> | sfr: ok |
| 15:32 | pmoreau> | With the PVR-250, what format is the nuv files? MPEG2? |
| 15:33 | sfr> | yes |
| 15:33 | Rroet> | YV-12 afaik |
| 15:33 | Rroet> | or was it YV-24? |
| 15:35 | nou> | where's mythmusic's changelog ? :) |
| 15:35 | mikegrb> | cvs? |
| 15:36 | nou> | i guess so |
| 15:36 | sfr> | nou: the cvs-commits ml might help |
| 15:36 | nou> | at least not in the tar.bz2 |
| 15:38 | engie> | When my bttv module loads, it said it can't find 3 tuners then it said it's registering video0. Does this mean it has given up finding a tuner? |
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| 15:52 | nou> | i'm sorry i can't help saying that 'filename format' setting and title handling are not clear |
| 15:57 | sfr> | nou: you are welcome to send a patch to improve their description. Look around line 93 in mythmusic/mythmusic/globalsettings.cpp |
| 15:59 | nou> | at the moment i'm trying to figure out how it exactly works |
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| 16:13 | Chutt> | Decoder::getMetadataFromFilename is pretty easy. |
| 16:15 | lavigne> | 3 |
| 16:18 | hardwired> | i am still not sure whether it is myth or libid3tag that causes these double-genres |
| 16:18 | tmk> | chutt: new ivtv out, should be lots of decoder improvements |
| 16:18 | hardwired> | i found the offending line in maddecoder.cpp |
| 16:18 | tmk> | i also actually released something :) |
| 16:18 | Chutt> | hardwired, it's in maddecoder |
| 16:18 | hardwired> | Chutt: oh, you know about it? |
| 16:19 | hardwired> | it's nstrings = id3_field_getnstrings(field); returning 2 |
| 16:19 | Chutt> | well |
| 16:19 | Chutt> | libid3tag shouldn't be saying it has two genre fields |
| 16:19 | Chutt> | but |
| 16:19 | Chutt> | it's only a line or two to get it to ignore the second if it's the same as the first |
| 16:20 | hardwired> | Chutt: hmm. that would be an option |
| 16:20 | hardwired> | Chutt: i'll check which one is which, then give the id3v2 tag precedence |
| 16:22 | Chutt> | tmk, i'll try to check it out tonight |
| 16:23 | tmk> | cool |
| 16:23 | Chutt> | going to work s'more on my basement now |
| 16:23 | tmk> | best of luck |
| 16:23 | Chutt> | how's the release work with david engel's stuff? |
| 16:23 | tmk> | just getting to the point where i'm ready to put it in |
| 16:23 | Chutt> | cool |
| 16:24 | tmk> | there were some other underyling issues that his stuff would have masked |
| 16:24 | tmk> | took care of most of those now |
| 16:24 | tmk> | did you see that email i sent you |
| 16:24 | tmk> | with the remote frontend crashes etc |
| 16:24 | Chutt> | yeah, just scanned it though |
| 16:24 | tmk> | cool |
| 16:24 | Chutt> | haven't had time to really look at it |
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| 16:24 | tmk> | get to it whenever |
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| 16:24 | nou> | Chutt: do you think it would be easy to re-add the horizontal scrolling for long title/filename ? |
| 16:25 | Chutt> | nou, would have to write a widget to do it, but it's simple. |
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| 16:36 | dja__> | chutt: have you thought about Ben Levitt's "instant select feedback" patch? |
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| 16:41 | cjs_> | wow, the mythtv.org web server seems to be hosed |
| 16:42 | nou> | yep |
| 16:42 | lavigne> | anyone got a HowTo for nuv to mpeg? |
| 16:43 | Chutt> | the machine that hosts the mythtv website in the middle of getting upgraded. |
| 16:43 | Chutt> | keep your panties on |
| 16:43 | nou> | hmm mythtv,freevo, is there other softwares with similar features ? |
| 16:43 | nchip> | vdr? |
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| 16:44 | Chutt> | there's quite a few, but that's offtopic for this channel. |
| 16:44 | hardwired> | Chutt: why does maddecoder.cpp, id it finds two tag fields, just concats them instead of giving one field precedence? |
| 16:44 | hardwired> | Chutt: shall i make a patch to change that? |
| 16:45 | Chutt> | because sometimes the text fields aren't the entire string |
| 16:46 | hardwired> | ok, so only a patch for genre1 == gerne2? |
| 16:47 | sfr> | hardwired: did you find out why it only seems to happen for the genre tag? |
| 16:47 | hardwired> | sfr: no... |
| 16:48 | hardwired> | the code is the same for all tags |
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| 16:55 | nou> | btw what's wrong with asking for mythtv rivals ? |
| 16:56 | Chutt> | because this is the mythtv development channel? |
| 16:56 | hardwired> | nothing... but it's a pointless question. there aren't any. |
| 16:56 | sfr> | nothing, but do that on the users mailing list |
| 16:57 | nou> | :) |
| 16:57 | nou> | hardwired's answer is my favorite :) |
| 16:58 | nou> | btw i won't ask on the mailing list as i won't post patch on irc ... |
| 17:03 | hardwired> | sfr: i fixed it. i'll send a patch tomorrow and see what people think about that simple fix |
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| 17:04 | sfr> | hardwired: cool. i'll have to leave it to others to judge it's correctness, though. |
| 17:05 | bambito> | a congradulation to all developers, testers, tweakers, etc. for all the hard work on mythtv |
| 17:14 | hardwired> | nite |
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| 17:24 | pahli_bar> | Chutt: is there room for an alternate ui listtype ? |
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| 17:38 | Octane> | can someone help me understand why is it that the volume for all my record profiles is at 100% and yet whenever i goto live tv it goes back to 80? |
| 17:40 | sfr> | Octane: one setting is for the backend, the other for the frontend. |
| 17:43 | Rroet | is now known as RroetZzZz |
| 17:47 | Octane> | sfr, where is the setting for the frontend then? |
| 17:48 | sfr> | Octane: in the frontend settings screen. |
| 17:48 | Octane> | hmm alrighty |
| 17:48 | Octane> | thank you ill look :) |
| 17:49 | Chutt> | pahli_bar, sure |
| 17:50 | pahli_bar> | Chutt: cool. i'm working on it... this is what i have in mind: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1381555,00.asp (third screenshot from top) |
| 17:54 | pahli_bar> | i haven't comeup with a name for it yet :) |
| 17:54 | sfr> | pahli_bar: i suggest to name it wmce_list |
| 17:54 | pahli_bar> | heh |
| 17:56 | sfr> | pahli_bar: where do you want to use it? |
| 17:56 | pahli_bar> | sfr: well, i will use it first in mythnews... |
| 17:57 | pahli_bar> | other place i can think of is mythmusic, instead of the treeview for music selection |
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| 17:58 | Chutt> | what's in there that the existing list type can't do? |
| 17:59 | Chutt> | the treeview widget can have just one column, too |
| 18:00 | pahli_bar> | yes... but this new listtype will be a button type (with active and inactive items). it will also allow items to be checked/unchecked |
| 18:01 | Chutt> | ah |
| 18:01 | pahli_bar> | simpler to use than the listtype for themers (for the items you can just specify the gradient colors (with alpha also)) |
| 18:02 | Chutt> | gradient or image for background? |
| 18:02 | pahli_bar> | image with a gradient created on the fly |
| 18:02 | Chutt> | ok |
| 18:03 | Chutt> | probably be best to allow that or just a straight image set (active/inactive)as well |
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| 18:05 | pahli_bar> | ok. once i get it working, should be easy to extend it |
| 18:05 | meth> | that would look nice |
| 18:06 | pahli_bar> | here's a sample preview screenshot: https://pooh.tam.uiuc.edu/screen5.png |
| 18:06 | pahli_bar> | sorry for the https |
| 18:08 | meth> | does it work already? |
| 18:08 | Chutt> | looks good |
| 18:08 | Chutt> | nice work =) |
| 18:09 | pahli_bar> | i have it working as a painting object on a widget. converting it right now to a uitype |
| 18:09 | pahli_bar> | Chutt: thnx |
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| 19:29 | bishop> | what's the max about of somgs anyone has iun mythmusic? i'm having issues with importing music |
| 19:34 | bishop> | when updating mythmusic mysql uses ~99% of the cpu and mythfront the rest. this lasts until mythmusic gets 83% finished. than mysql uses almost no cpu and mythfrontend uses ~99%. the update progress bar in mythmusic never finishes. |
| 19:35 | bishop> | mysql is still responding running a count on the musicmetadata table shows that nothing else is being added |
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| 19:42 | Chutt> | tmk, why waste your time on that idiot on the mailing list? |
| 19:43 | tmk> | chutt: i'm a nice guy |
| 19:43 | tmk> | he unsubscribed first anyhow |
| 19:43 | Chutt> | before you responded? |
| 19:43 | Chutt> | heh |
| 19:43 | tmk> | and the docs aren't great.. |
| 19:44 | Chutt> | the 'how do i compile the driver' faq question is enough |
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| 19:44 | Chutt> | if you can read, you can do that :p |
| 19:47 | Matt> | hmm |
| 19:47 | Matt> | knoppmyth is pretty neat |
| 19:47 | Matt> | just a shame it's 0.12 and doesn't like 0.13 database |
| 19:49 | mikegrb> | hello |
| 19:50 | tmk> | chutt: even newer cvs-latest put up an hour or so ago |
| 19:55 | nou> | bishop: i'm experiencing major cpu usage with mythmusic and a lot of files too |
| 19:55 | Matt> | hey mike |
| 19:55 | mikegrb> | Matt: :) |
| 19:55 | Matt> | so now I get to either prod the guy who does knoppmyth, or remaster the CD myself |
| 19:55 | mikegrb> | oh I know what I can do right now :) |
| 19:56 | Matt> | heh |
| 19:56 | mikegrb> | update my copy of nuvexport and add the dvd output |
| 19:56 | mikegrb> | heidi drug me away from the computer last night and took me out to a movie |
| 19:57 | nou> | :) |
| 19:59 | Matt> | heh |
| 19:59 | bishop> | nou: it's not the cpu i care about. it's the fact that mythmusic never finises and imports all the songs |
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| 20:19 | ShockValue> | hi all.. is there a simple way, or a howto on how to rip DVD's to hard disk, so that I can play them from hard disk with full AC3 sound? |
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| 20:22 | tmk> | shock: i think mplayer can do it |
| 20:22 | tmk> | mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream |
| 20:22 | tmk> | or close to it |
| 20:22 | ShockValue> | hrm, ok ill look at that |
| 20:24 | Octane> | 480 gig of raid 5 scsi 3 |
| 20:24 | Octane> | wow |
| 20:24 | Octane> | thats what some dude uses in his linux htpc |
| 20:25 | tmk> | nice |
| 20:26 | tmk> | raid5 is kind of a waste tho |
| 20:27 | ShockValue> | raid5 is a good trade off of security and space |
| 20:27 | Chutt> | or just use mythdvd in perfect copy mode |
| 20:27 | mchou> | why do u need raid 5 for dvd images? |
| 20:28 | ShockValue> | cuz re-ripping 500gig of DVD's would suck :) |
| 20:28 | ShockValue> | i have raid5 for my ripped CD collection |
| 20:28 | Octane> | yah why would you want raid5 on a pvr |
| 20:29 | mchou> | uhh, a simple offline mirror would suffice.... |
| 20:29 | mchou> | dont need no stinking raid 5.... |
| 20:30 | Octane> | maybe he really likes his tv shows |
| 20:30 | Octane> | i think mythtv users need some sort of website where people can show off their boxes and stuff |
| 20:30 | dja__> | I use a 600G raid-5 for my kid's dvds -- I haven't had anymore broken dvd's in the past 6 months. :-) |
| 20:30 | mchou> | what, so they can say they use raid 5? :) |
| 20:31 | Octane> | lol |
| 20:31 | Octane> | yah! |
| 20:31 | sfr> | Octane: there is one afaik, just forgot the url :) |
| 20:31 | Octane> | youre thinkinga bout cooper's thing |
| 20:31 | Octane> | pvrhw.goldfish.org right |
| 20:32 | ShockValue> | Chutt: does myth rip dvd's? i thought it would only do music... no? |
| 20:32 | Octane> | but a place where we can post pictures of setups, brag about expensive hardware, post howtos, user maintained wiki, brag about impressive configurations, post conf files, etc. |
| 20:32 | Octane> | mythdvd does |
| 20:32 | dja__> | mythdvd will (if you've installed transcode) -- it's really nice :-) |
| 20:32 | Chutt> | don't need transcode for pefect mode |
| 20:33 | dja__> | oops, sorry...I forgot about perfect mode...don't have enough disk space for that :-) |
| 20:33 | Octane> | Chutt how woul dyou feel if a user created a site dedicated for creating a mythtv community, with regular news postings, etc. |
| 20:33 | ShockValue> | hmm.. i have mythdvd installed.. i can watch dvd's.. but i dont see any options for ripping them.. what am i missing here? |
| 20:33 | Chutt> | wouldn't really care |
| 20:33 | Chutt> | wouldn't participate |
| 20:33 | Chutt> | though |
| 20:34 | Octane> | :( |
| 20:34 | Octane> | understandable, but would you spport it |
| 20:34 | Octane> | like, be in favor of it? |
| 20:35 | Chutt> | as long as the person running it doesn't annoy me |
| 20:35 | Chutt> | like the 'unofficial mythtv user group' guy |
| 20:35 | dja__> | shockvalue: when you compile it, you have to add the configure option "--enable-transcode" to be aboe to do dvd ripping and transcoding... |
| 20:35 | ShockValue> | "it" = mythdvd |
| 20:35 | ShockValue> | ? |
| 20:35 | dja__> | yup |
| 20:35 | Octane> | yes |
| 20:35 | Octane> | i think it would need more than just one person to run to be good and useful |
| 20:35 | ShockValue> | hrm, ok ill take a gander.. im using gentoo, so im not sure if I can pass that |
| 20:36 | mchou> | Chutt, meaning the unofficial mug guy annoys you or doesnt? |
| 20:36 | Chutt> | he pissed me off |
| 20:36 | mchou> | hehe.... |
| 20:36 | Chutt> | with his forum -> mailing list postings |
| 20:36 | Chutt> | so i asked him not to have the mailing lists on his forum, and unsubscribed his accounts |
| 20:37 | Chutt> | he re-subscribed them |
| 20:37 | mchou> | sigh.... |
| 20:37 | Octane> | Chutt have you ever considered creating a second mailing list for those of us who have setups and want to talk about non-user help stuff? |
| 20:37 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:37 | Chutt> | i'm not _that_ hard to work with, but sheesh |
| 20:38 | Chutt> | octane, do i have to be subscribed to it? |
| 20:38 | Octane> | Chutt: no, but it would be nice of course :D |
| 20:38 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:38 | Chutt> | i'm barely reading -users as is |
| 20:38 | Chutt> | finally got around to putting that into a separate folder in kmail |
| 20:38 | Octane> | right, you might be reading this one if its a success! |
| 20:39 | Chutt> | i'll think about it |
| 20:42 | Octane> | thats better than no! |
| 20:43 | sfr> | then what about a #myth-users channel Chutt? i know your point, but it might be worth a try and could save you from simple questions. |
| 20:44 | sfr> | and it might free this channel a bit |
| 20:44 | cmorgan> | Octane: aren't there two mailing lists already? |
| 20:44 | Octane> | i know i am noone in mythtv, and a relatelively new users, but it really seems that mythtv has reached the point where it has enough users to be able to categorize them |
| 20:48 | Octane> | cmorgan: dev and users? |
| 20:48 | cmorgan> | Octane: yes. if you are coding on myth you are on dev, if you are looking for end-user support you post to users |
| 20:49 | cmorgan> | Octane: i can't see a need for yet another mailing list |
| 20:49 | Octane> | cmorgan: what about if your're in between? |
| 20:49 | cmorgan> | Octane: in between? you dont' code or use myth?? |
| 20:49 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:49 | mikegrb> | then screw you |
| 20:49 | Octane> | -users has little mythtv discussion |
| 20:49 | mikegrb> | ;) |
| 20:49 | Octane> | non-technical/newbie |
| 20:50 | mikegrb> | I |
| 20:50 | mikegrb> | er |
| 20:50 | cmorgan> | Octane: its still the place for user level questions i think |
| 20:50 | cmorgan> | Octane: although we really should have a special section in the docs for recommended hardware |
| 20:50 | mikegrb> | I think I see what you are saying Octane |
| 20:50 | Octane> | mikegrb: thanks heh |
| 20:51 | Octane> | like i said before, i would love a place where i could talk to other users, like me, who have everything set up already... talk about tweaking, about new hardware, their setups, etc |
| 20:51 | mikegrb> | share pictures? |
| 20:51 | Octane> | -users is overwhelmed with "is my hardware good?" or "i have a problem using jarod's guide" or "ivtv is not working" |
| 20:51 | cmorgan> | the users list? |
| 20:52 | cmorgan> | as unfortunate as it is, end users that have trouble often generate large amounts of email |
| 20:52 | mikegrb> | yup |
| 20:52 | Octane> | cmorgan thus overwhelming everyone else |
| 20:52 | cmorgan> | what would you call the 3rd list? ;-) |
| 20:52 | mikegrb> | mythtv-already-works? |
| 20:52 | cmorgan> | and no matter to me as long as that stuff doesn't spill over to the devel list ;-) |
| 20:52 | cmorgan> | heh |
| 20:52 | Octane> | mythtv-itsworkingdamnit |
| 20:53 | Octane> | heh |
| 20:53 | Octane> | mythtv |
| 20:53 | sfr> | mythtv-itsworkingdamnitnowshutthefuckup |
| 20:53 | Octane> | no -users and no -dev |
| 20:53 | Octane> | technically speaking it should be called -users |
| 20:53 | cmorgan> | heheh |
| 20:53 | Octane> | and the current users should be -newbie or -questions |
| 20:54 | sfr> | from an psychological aspect i'd call it mythtv for users, and -dev for developers. few people would call themselves newbie |
| 20:55 | Octane> | would you guys, as advanced users, support such an endeavour? |
| 20:55 | sfr> | never :) |
| 20:55 | Octane> | a real users ml that is |
| 20:56 | mikegrb> | problem is most of the people who have it working would stop reading messages on the -users list |
| 20:56 | sfr> | if you meant if i'd subscribe to such a list? i'm already actually, so yes |
| 20:56 | Octane> | you are? |
| 20:56 | sfr> | yes, but i don't post there too often. |
| 20:57 | Octane> | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MythTV/ lol look |
| 20:57 | sfr> | err, i'm talking about the mythv-users mailing list |
| 20:57 | sfr> | never heard about this yahoo group until now :) |
| 20:57 | Octane> | me neither |
| 20:58 | Octane> | only 4 messages |
| 20:58 | Octane> | 4 months ago |
| 20:58 | Octane> | with 32 users |
| 20:58 | mchou> | yahoo groups sign-in is a PITA. |
| 20:59 | Octane> | i gotta go to my gf's house as part of my weekly todo list |
| 20:59 | sfr> | why did this group get created in the first place? the users ml is perfect. |
| 20:59 | mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:59 | mikegrb> | silly yahoo groupie's |
| 21:01 | Matt> | the mythtv lists are rather high traffic |
| 21:01 | sfr> | i don't understand how people prefer a forum over a mailing list? you can even search the archive via gossamer threads. |
| 21:01 | mikegrb> | indeed |
| 21:02 | Matt> | I don't see why you could have a users list and a support list |
| 21:03 | Octane> | ageed |
| 21:03 | Octane> | agreed even |
| 21:07 | cmorgan> | Chutt: did you see the patch from last week that modified playbackbox? |
| 21:08 | Chutt> | not that i recall |
| 21:08 | Chutt> | you sent it to the list? |
| 21:09 | cmorgan> | Chutt: it wasn't from me, i was curious as to whether it was going to be accepted |
| 21:09 | cmorgan> | Chutt: and i think i've got a first pass if you'd like me to mail you with it |
| 21:09 | Chutt> | oh, from avalanche@beyondmonkey.net? |
| 21:09 | Chutt> | i commented on it |
| 21:09 | cmorgan> | yes that one |
| 21:09 | Chutt> | it can't be accepted as is |
| 21:10 | cmorgan> | ahh yes, now i see your reply |
| 21:11 | cmorgan> | just curious as it touches some stuff that i've changed. |
| 21:11 | Chutt> | don't worry 'bout it |
| 21:11 | cmorgan> | i have some debug code in playbackbox now, some tracing stuff that prints out debug info |
| 21:11 | Chutt> | i can always merge stuff |
| 21:12 | cmorgan> | it can be defined out by changing the TRACE macro |
| 21:12 | Chutt> | i'd generally prefer to leave that sort of stuff out |
| 21:12 | cmorgan> | i was planning to remove it before the final patch |
| 21:12 | Chutt> | ok, then =) |
| 21:13 | cmorgan> | should i mail you or the list with the preliminary patch? |
| 21:13 | cmorgan> | i expect you'll want some things changed |
| 21:13 | Chutt> | either |
| 21:13 | cmorgan> | i'll just mail the list with it then |
| 21:14 | cmorgan> | oh, one question |
| 21:14 | cmorgan> | if i remove the qApp->unlock()/processEvents()/lock() inside of PlaybackBox::play() there is no keyboard input once live tv starts |
| 21:14 | Chutt> | right, that has to stay. |
| 21:15 | cmorgan> | does that somehow block the handoff of key processing? |
| 21:15 | Chutt> | it enables it |
| 21:15 | Chutt> | gotta process events for key press events to get delivered |
| 21:16 | cmorgan> | so the playbackbox is still open when livetv is playing? |
| 21:16 | cmorgan> | and passing key events down to the livetv object? |
| 21:16 | Chutt> | not when live tv |
| 21:16 | cmorgan> | oh, i mean watching a recording |
| 21:16 | Chutt> | just recorded file playback |
| 21:16 | cmorgan> | i think the code mentions live something, my bad |
| 21:17 | Chutt> | the qt event loop handles the keypresses |
| 21:17 | Chutt> | when recorded playback starts, it's in the event loop already |
| 21:17 | Chutt> | and that function doesn't return until playback is over |
| 21:17 | Chutt> | so, it needs that processevents in a loop |
| 21:17 | cmorgan> | ahh |
| 21:17 | Chutt> | to make the event loop run |
| 21:18 | cmorgan> | i had the same issue with a routine i have that spins waiting for the player to be killed |
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| 21:23 | sfr> | ok that's not funny, wtf happened to the stop button ('s') in mythmusic? :) |
| 21:30 | cmorgan> | Chutt: alright. sent it off to the list |
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| 21:38 | ShockValue> | anyone familiar with nvtv command line? im trying to get it to shift horizontal +2 from the command line. |
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| 22:34 | ShockValue> | do i need the myth transcode deamon running to rip dvd's in perfect mode? i gathered tat I didnt. but myth keeps complaining that it isnt running |
| 22:40 | ShockValue> | ok, nevermind, got that workin.. kinda :) |
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| 22:48 | jaeger> | greetings, all |
| 22:53 | jaeger> | anyone using a via epia m6000 with mythtv? I'm curious how well a 633MHz C3 processor can actually handle PVR duties when coupled with a pvr-350 cap card |
| 22:54 | Chutt> | as long as you're using the 350 for decoding, should be fine |
| 22:54 | Chutt> | stuff will be slow, though |
| 22:54 | Chutt> | you won't be able to do the more cpu intensive music visualizations, for instance |
| 22:55 | jaeger> | the card will definitely do the decoding, I'm wondering mostly about the mythtv interface and overhead itself |
| 22:55 | jaeger> | right, makes sense |
| 22:55 | Chutt> | it's a _slow_ processor |
| 22:55 | jaeger> | I haven't built the box yet, I'm trying to decide between the 633MHz m6000 or the 1GHz m10000... I'd like the 633 since it's nearly silent |
| 22:55 | jaeger> | yeah |
| 22:56 | Chutt> | my m10k is about the same speed as my old p3-500 |
| 22:56 | jaeger> | is it sufficient for what you do, pvr-wise? |
| 22:56 | Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:57 | Chutt> | it's got a -350 in it |
| 22:57 | Chutt> | the tv out quality on the motherboard sucks |
| 22:57 | jaeger> | hrmm... how so? low res? blurry? |
| 22:57 | Chutt> | the -350 is a _lot_ better |
| 22:58 | jaeger> | so you can use the pvr-350's output as well as capture? |
| 22:58 | Chutt> | of course |
| 22:58 | jaeger> | (I have no experience with cap cards yet) |
| 22:58 | jaeger> | great |
| 22:58 | jaeger> | I'm definitely planning on getting the pvr-350, so I won't worry about the onboard one |
| 22:58 | jaeger> | do you think I should go with the m10000 over the m6000? the price isn't much different |
| 22:59 | Chutt> | i wouldn't get anything slower than the m10k |
| 22:59 | Chutt> | and i doubt i'd buy the m10k |
| 22:59 | Chutt> | only reason i have one is because via sent it to me |
| 22:59 | jaeger> | any suggestions, then? :) I'm open to alternatives |
| 22:59 | Chiphead> | frontend/backend or both? |
| 23:01 | jaeger> | I'd like to do both in one box, gonna put it in my entertainment center |
| 23:01 | Chutt> | you don't need _much_ cpu |
| 23:01 | jaeger> | that's the reason I'm looking at mini-itx systems |
| 23:01 | Chutt> | looked at the pundit? |
| 23:01 | jaeger> | never heard of it, but I'll check it out |
| 23:01 | Chutt> | i've not seen one in action, but people like it |
| 23:02 | Chutt> | i don't know if a -350 will fit in one, though |
| 23:02 | jaeger> | hrmm... ok |
| 23:02 | jaeger> | asus pundit? |
| 23:04 | Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:04 | jaeger> | yay for google |
| 23:06 | jaeger> | hrmm... pundit looks decent but it'll be loud and hot, I think |
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| 23:07 | Chutt> | the fan on the m10k isn't anywhere near silent |
| 23:07 | jaeger> | aye, I know, but the m6000s are supposedly very close to silent |
| 23:08 | Chiphead> | xbox is pretty quiet... but its a frontend only |
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| 23:10 | jaeger> | If I had an xbox, I'd probably leave it alone for gaming, but I'll remember that. :) |
| 23:11 | Chiphead> | you can do both :) |
| 23:11 | jaeger> | heh |
| 23:12 | Chiphead> | it with a recycled p2-400 and 250 in the basement make for a great system |
| 23:12 | jaeger> | the m10000s seem to have good ratings in the pvr hardware database |
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| 23:18 | jaeger> | I think I may go ahead and get an m10k or m6k, I can always replace my gateway box with it if it doesn't do the job |
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| 23:19 | dabone> | hiya folks, quick question, I just added another front end to my box and can use the guide. is the because of qt? if so is there a easy how to on how to downgrade it to version 3.1.2? |
| 23:20 | dabone> | that should say can't use the guide. watch tv and watch recordings work fine. |
| 23:22 | dabone> | is this mic on? :) |
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| 23:23 | jaeger> | dabone: sorry, I'm a newbie here |
| 23:23 | jaeger> | hope to have my own pvr setup going soon, but not yet |
| 23:24 | dabone> | Scary thing is my xbox frontend works great, I'm having trouble with a standard pc. :) |
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| 23:25 | jaeger> | heh, figures |
| 23:29 | Chutt> | you need to be more descriptive |
| 23:30 | Chutt> | 'can't use the guide' isn't really saying much :p |
| 23:33 | daralc> | how fat of a pipe would i need to run the frontend at an entirely different location from the backend? |
| 23:34 | Chutt> | do the math for your recording bitrate |
| 23:36 | daralc> | oh ok... understand |
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| 23:45 | meth> | anyone know of a graphical program to creat dvd menus/titles for linux or one what runs in wine? |
| 23:47 | jaeger> | what does LVDS01 mean? I see via epias with and without it |
| 23:49 | Chutt> | believe that's direct support for lcds |
| 23:49 | jaeger> | ah, ok |
| 23:49 | jaeger> | ie, DVI output onboard? |
| 23:50 | Chutt> | i dunno if it's dvi |
| 23:50 | jaeger> | hrmm |
| 23:51 | * | jaeger attempts to find the aforementioned info from via |
| 23:51 | jaeger> | viavpsd.com is fired for local hrefs |
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