| --- | Log | opened Sat Jan 08 00:00:05 2005 |
| 00:13 | Chutt | i just fixed the issue with video playback some people have been seeing ever since the last ffmpeg resync. |
| 00:13 | dopester | i see you put poets patch in too |
| 00:13 | Chutt | if anyone who was getting it (jerky playback, not in sync video) could test... |
| 00:15 | Chutt | yes, i did |
| 00:16 | dopester | John, Jesper and I will probbably give you a patch in a day or so.. just need to make sure we got the current -dev issues resolved withit first |
| 00:16 | Chutt | ie, it trying to tune many many times per second? =) |
| 00:17 | dopester | got that guy fixed i think |
| 00:17 | dopester | was the deleting fd 0 100s of times bug :) |
| 00:17 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:18 | dopester | changed the key of the filter manager to be the fd (easier for atsc stuff) and never changed the close filter function.. hehe |
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| 00:20 | dopester | when do you think you will have a chance to look over the whole thing? |
| 00:22 | Chutt | i dunno |
| 00:22 | Chutt | i'm going to be out of town tuesday through saturday |
| 00:24 | dopester | ok |
| 00:24 | dopester | well if you dont get to it by tuesday then i'll probbably have a newer version for you by saturday |
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| 01:34 | Chutt | i like easy ffmpeg merges. |
| 01:35 | riksta | i like hamburgers |
| 01:41 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:41 | Chutt | so far, absolutely no one's noticed that i forced ac3 audio to downmix to stereo |
| 01:43 | dopester | well i noticed 5.1 stuff played back all screwed up |
| 01:43 | dopester | but i wasn't sure if it was the remuxing of the mpeg or not at the time |
| 01:43 | Chutt | it's downmixing it now, instead of just playing the left and right channels |
| 01:44 | dopester | ahh so it wont be choppy? |
| 01:44 | dopester | i never looked too deep into it at the time.. was down the list somewhere |
| 01:44 | Chutt | it was choppy? |
| 01:44 | dopester | yeah |
| 01:44 | Chutt | i've not had a problem playing back any of the hdtv demo streams i've got that are ac3 |
| 01:44 | Chutt | aside from the fact that it was only playing 2 of the channels =) |
| 01:44 | dopester | are they 5.1 or just 2 channel? |
| 01:45 | Chutt | both |
| 01:45 | dopester | hrmm.. |
| 01:45 | dopester | i gotta try again its been a week or so since i even thought about it |
| 01:46 | dopester | does mplayer report those steams are 5.1 you are testing with? |
| 01:46 | Chutt | it reports them as what they are, iirc |
| 01:47 | dopester | oki cause mplayer always was a way i verfired what was getting recorded.. parses the whole nasty ac3 header :) |
| 01:48 | dopester | the ac3 header has to be the nastiest pes header ive ever seen to parse.. probbably would take 300 lines of code to do all of it |
| 01:48 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:49 | dopester | if (random bit = 1) then parse the next 5 bits this way else parse the next 7 this way.. |
| 01:49 | dopester | over and over again |
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| 02:09 | A|B | hello my name is A and I have a question about myth. not in its use but its design. Why does it use a master/slave relationship for the frontend and backend. Why not a peer model? |
| 02:09 | Chutt | scheduling. |
| 02:10 | A|B | hmm |
| 02:11 | A|B | couldn't you assign preference in scheduling resources to the devices in order of preference? |
| 02:11 | A|B | I think that the master/slave works great until you wish to have a portable frontend. to say, take to a friends house with a different backend |
| 02:12 | Chutt | frontends don't store data |
| 02:12 | A|B | or multiple backends each with a different set of resources, like a bunch of movies on one and a tuner or two on another |
| 02:12 | Chutt | so that doesn't make sense. |
| 02:12 | Chutt | neither does that. |
| 02:12 | Chutt | a backend _only_ has tuners. |
| 02:12 | A|B | then what stores data? |
| 02:12 | A|B | such as media files? |
| 02:12 | Chutt | anything that wants to |
| 02:12 | Chutt | the only thing the whole master/slave stuff takes care of is scheduling recordings. |
| 02:13 | Chutt | perhaps you should look at the code a bit? |
| 02:13 | A|B | I was hoping to talk to someone who was familiar with the project enough to explain that to me |
| 02:14 | Chutt | i doubt anyone's going to spend time walking you through the source. |
| 02:14 | A|B | as it seems more like a planing thing then programinng |
| 02:14 | A|B | and I don't ask for that |
| 02:15 | Chutt | then what did you just ask for? |
| 02:15 | A|B | was mythtv more of a mutation type development or is there a set of features/goals that have been set out? |
| 02:16 | Chutt | both. |
| 02:16 | A|B | hmm |
| 02:16 | A|B | interesting |
| 02:16 | Chutt | why? |
| 02:17 | A|B | well to answer your last question I had a question that would be easaly answered by someone familiar with the project. Looking at the source code would be similar to looking at the source for an ip stack to try and find out how something such as a webserver is configured |
| 02:18 | A|B | well I have a friend who has been trying to get me to change from vdr to myth for quite some time now, and I realy am impressed with the program |
| 02:18 | A|B | but it always seems to be in a state of development unsetteling for someone who is looking for a slightly more stable system to use |
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| 02:19 | A|B | but he inisists that I should use the cvs with daily checkouts if I want to do myth at all |
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| 02:22 | Chutt_axim | heh, oops |
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| 02:23 | Chutt_axim | there it goes.. |
| 02:23 | A|B | Chutt: did you get my last three lines? |
| 02:24 | Chutt_axim | nope |
| 02:24 | A|B | 00:17 < A|B> well to answer your last question I had a question that would be easaly answered by someone familiar with the project. Looking at the source code would be similar to looking at the source for an ip stack to try and find out how something such as a webserver is configured |
| 02:24 | A|B | 00:18 < A|B> well I have a friend who has been trying to get me to change from vdr to myth for quite some time now, and I realy am impressed with the program |
| 02:24 | A|B | 00:18 < A|B> but it always seems to be in a state of development unsetteling for someone who is looking for a slightly more stable system to use |
| 02:24 | A|B | and thanks for answering my questions btw |
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| 02:25 | Chutt | always in a state of development? |
| 02:25 | Chutt | how long has it been since 0.16? |
| 02:25 | A|B | that analasis is from a total outsiders point of view |
| 02:25 | A|B | based on how often HIS box is working |
| 02:25 | A|B | so yeah, take it how you will |
| 02:25 | Chutt | that's his fault |
| 02:25 | A|B | fair enough |
| 02:25 | Chutt | the last stable release was almost 4 months ago |
| 02:26 | dopester | you run cvs you are taking a risk on stability i always thought.. |
| 02:26 | A|B | true with most projects |
| 02:26 | Chutt | and even then, stuff doesn't break |
| 02:29 | A|B | so the master/slave relationship only comes into play with tuners, does mythtv have the ability to share groups of files to other systems running mythtv, or would that need to be handled via nfs or smb? |
| 02:29 | Chutt | depends on which plugin you're using |
| 02:30 | Chutt | but, you're now asking questions that don't belong in this channel. |
| 02:30 | A|B | so then it is left up to the plugin to decide that. check |
| 02:30 | A|B | fair enough. |
| 02:31 | dopester | chutt are you going to have any time ot look over the dvb code you think before tuesday or should i just wait until next saturday? |
| 02:31 | Chutt | can't say |
| 02:31 | A|B | any problems with users lurking in this channel gleaning the info they can? |
| 02:31 | Chutt | as long as they don't as support questions, no |
| 02:31 | dopester | i think thats what most people do in here :) |
| 02:31 | dopester | bucnha logging bots hoping for some clue when the next release will be.. hehe |
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| 02:33 | stoffel | Chutt: cool, will test it this WE (jerky playback fix) |
| 02:33 | stoffel | and good morning ;) |
| 02:36 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:36 | Chutt | morning? |
| 02:37 | dopester | somewhere its always morning :) |
| 02:38 | stoffel | 8.30am, on a nice saturday morning. even birds are chirping |
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| 02:39 | dopester | 2:30 here.. about to not be able to see straight im so tired :) |
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| 03:40 | johnp | Chutt ? hdtvrecorder.cpp needs #include <cerrno> again :) |
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| 09:56 | Anduin | hdtvrecorder.cpp needs a #include <cerrno> |
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| 12:41 | Chutt | baylink, that guy's autologin stuff's way overcomplicated |
| 12:42 | Chutt | instead of writing a stupid little program, he could have just used a getty that supports autologin, like, say, mingetty |
| 12:45 | jams | which is also in an earlier issue of linuxgazette |
| 12:48 | dopester | chutt: im about to put 3.5 on the list.. if you get a chance look over it and let me know what you think needs changing if anything.. going to do a bit more cleanup and just put the final verison on the list next saturday.. you cool with that? |
| 12:48 | Chutt | sure |
| 12:49 | dopester | probbably 95% of the stuff will be the same between 3.5 and what you get.. |
| 12:49 | dopester | got some warnings and things like that to cleanup.. remove dead code.. stuff that has no place in your cvs |
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| 13:21 | klpt | hello |
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| 13:21 | klpt | hi |
| 13:28 | Baylink | Yes, klpt/ |
| 13:28 | Baylink | ? |
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| 15:12 | mBob | what username does mythtv use to access the mysql database? |
| 15:12 | mikegrb | the topic |
| 15:12 | mBob | bloody hell |
| 15:12 | mBob | every time |
| 15:12 | mBob | im sorry |
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| 17:26 | Riff-Raff | is it possible that NuppelVideoPlayer does not have osd ? |
| 17:30 | Anduin | Riff-Raff - it depends on when |
| 17:31 | Riff-Raff | when playing video with avformatdecoder |
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| 17:38 | Riff-Raff | or rather: when AvFormatDecoder::GetFrame is called |
| 17:38 | Riff-Raff | It seems it is possible, for example when gettins screen grabs |
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| 18:37 | stoffel | Chutt: the changes you committed to fix the playback stuttering seem to work for me |
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| 18:45 | stoffel | oh, any idea about when you will release 0.17? i'd guess after merging the dvb-update + bugfixes. a 1-2 weeks notice before would be great so the translations can be updated |
| 18:45 | Chutt | that's the most likely schedule |
| 18:45 | Chutt | i'll certainly give notice for people doing translations |
| 18:45 | Chutt | and thanks for testing that playback issue =) |
| 18:45 | stoffel | ah, great |
| 18:46 | Chutt | no one else has that i know of yet, despite lots of people bitching on the users list |
| 18:47 | stoffel | i only watched the matrix with latest cvs, but didn't notice any stutter. the problem was in mythfrontend? b/c my backend is still cvs from ~1-2 weeks ago |
| 18:48 | stoffel | it was shown on tv tonight, so i used live-tv btw. |
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| 18:53 | dopester | stoffel: you doing translations? |
| 18:54 | stoffel | yes sir |
| 18:55 | dopester | if you want to look at the dvb-patch 3.5 i put up there today i don't think there much to translate there but i can't forsee any of that changing |
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| 18:55 | dopester | most of its all technical terms so might have no translation anyway |
| 18:56 | stoffel | dopester: as i don't use/know about dvb at all, i never started all the dvb stuff which is in cvs today. except for some non-technical terms |
| 18:57 | stoffel | errr, started to translate |
| 19:01 | LLyric | Is the myth-dvb project going to be rolled into mythtv, or are they going to continue their patchset? |
| 19:03 | stoffel | afaik the goal is to commit it to cvs after further testing |
| 19:04 | LLyric | Heh, they'll have lotsa time, given mythtv release rate :) |
| 19:05 | LLyric | 0.16 has at least one bug, that I'd call a show-stop |
| 19:06 | dopester | llyric: up to chutt as to it going in.. :) |
| 19:06 | stoffel | are the binary packages are patched to fix this bug or are they original 0.16 code, LLyric? |
| 19:07 | LLyric | Nah, atrpms which seems to be the most common packager, still has the "frontend crashes when you start recording" bug |
| 19:07 | | * LLyric checks the rpm changelog |
| 19:08 | | * stoffel checks the deb's |
| 19:08 | LLyric | Nope, no significant changes since 0.16 - just fiddling with some X extensions |
| 19:08 | LLyric | If someone could point me to the commit that fixed it, I'll generate a patch and send to Axel |
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| 19:10 | stoffel | hm, connection refused for dijkstra.csh.rit.edu:8088 |
| 19:10 | stoffel | LLyric: really? 0.17 probably will be released in ~4 weeks anyway |
| 19:11 | LLyric | It's a really bad bug, and Axel doesn't mind releasing often |
| 19:11 | LLyric | I don't suppose there's a viewcvs on myth? |
| 19:11 | stoffel | there is |
| 19:11 | LLyric | Found it :) |
| 19:11 | LLyric | cvs.mythtv.org |
| 19:11 | LLyric | (duh) |
| 19:19 | | * LLyric idles, waiting for cvs2cl to run, so he can find the fix commit. |
| 19:20 | LLyric | Hopefully it quotes the bugzilla item |
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| 19:30 | Chutt | patches against patches |
| 19:32 | LLyric | Moi? |
| 19:33 | Riff-Raff | moi moi |
| 19:33 | | * LLyric grins |
| 19:33 | LLyric | Anybody got a pointer to when the fix for the "frontend crashes when recording starts while watching tv" was committed to cvs |
| 19:33 | LLyric | ? |
| 19:33 | LLyric | The commit log is less than illustrative |
| 19:34 | Riff-Raff | I have no idea but I'd check right after 0.16 was out |
| 19:34 | Chutt | that was a long time ago |
| 19:34 | Chutt | and only affected a tiny number of people |
| 19:34 | Chutt | hardly a showstopper |
| 19:34 | dopester | wasn't that fixed a week after 0.16? |
| 19:34 | | * LLyric looks at the changelog |
| 19:35 | Chutt | pretty much |
| 19:35 | LLyric | What were the conditions under which it happened? Happens here 100% of the time, as does it for a couple of other people I know |
| 19:35 | Chutt | i don't remember, it was almost 4 months ago |
| 19:45 | LLyric | Chutt: was it you that committed the fix? or could you remember who it was? the changelog comments aren't helping me much |
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| 22:53 | fester | hi, i installed mythtv and now i dont know what the password to the mythtv account is what is the defalt? |
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