| --- | Log | opened Sun Jan 30 00:00:27 2005 |
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| 00:59 | Chutt | heh, comcast added another hd station |
| 01:01 | mikegrb | oh yeah? which |
| 01:03 | Chutt | nflhd |
| 01:04 | dopester | heh the CVCT and TVCT are the almost the same |
| 01:04 | dopester | guess I don't need ParseCVCT and ParstTVCT :) |
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| 01:07 | dopester | i guess they will just choose some game already out there and re-play it on that channel? |
| 01:07 | Chutt | dunno |
| 01:07 | Chutt | don't watch football |
| 01:07 | mikegrb | interesting |
| 01:08 | mikegrb | espnhd is almost never in hd |
| 01:08 | Chutt | but that's 9 hd channels i get now =) |
| 01:08 | mikegrb | so it doesn't count ;) |
| 01:08 | Chutt | this hasn't been at _all_, from flipping through it |
| 01:08 | Chutt | espn is occasionally |
| 01:08 | mikegrb | yes, not often though |
| 01:08 | mikegrb | is comcast carying discovery hd or universal hd yet? |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | I've quite liked universal hd since I moved from a comcast -> cox area |
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| 01:09 | Chutt | discovery |
| 01:09 | Chutt | no universal, but there's rumors of it soon |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | it is like INHD with lots of universal movies and lots of law and order and soon monk |
| 01:09 | Chutt | ah, cool. |
| 01:09 | Chutt | and possibly battlestar galactica |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | :) |
| 01:09 | Chutt | they're showing last years mini-series next month, supposedly |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | I didn't think to ask in here |
| 01:10 | dopester | just get a cband dish and get hdnet for free :) |
| 01:10 | mikegrb | a few friends have been downloading every episode of the uk series via bittorrent on my colo |
| 01:10 | mikegrb | but the season is over there just as it begins here |
| 01:10 | Chutt | i'll see em when they're aired here |
| 01:10 | Chutt | the uk's only 9 or 10 episodes ahead |
| 01:10 | mikegrb | them showing the mini series in high def is sure to make them jealous though |
| 01:11 | GreyFoxx | You wont be disapointed. It was sweet |
| 01:11 | Chutt | gives me something to do on friday nights |
| 01:11 | GreyFoxx | the final episode(13) aired last Monday |
| 01:11 | GreyFoxx | Now it's a waiting game for season 2 :) |
| 01:11 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:11 | Chutt | they just aired #4 last night, here |
| 01:11 | mikegrb | I haven't seen the mini series so will probably watch it if unihd airs it |
| 01:11 | dopester | at least its not the waiting game for sopranos |
| 01:12 | mikegrb | time for bed g'night |
| 01:12 | GreyFoxx | Hopefully soon they will announce whether or not there will even be a Season2. But most are counting on it happening |
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| 01:24 | k-man_ | hello |
| 01:24 | k-man_ | anyone awake? |
| 01:28 | Beirdo | no |
| 01:29 | k-man_ | thats good to hear |
| 01:30 | k-man_ | has the database format changed much in the last few weeks? |
| 01:30 | k-man_ | i just installed the lastest cvs, and mythtv has stopped working for me |
| 01:32 | Beirdo | I'd suggest reading the mailing lists |
| 01:38 | Chutt | the dbformat changes all the time |
| 01:38 | Chutt | if you're using cvs, you're expected to be on the cvs commits list |
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| 01:51 | orangey | chutt: Is there a special reason why "mythtv file.nuv" challenges the network before allowing the file to be played? |
| 01:51 | Chutt | it does? |
| 01:52 | Chutt | how's it challenge it? |
| 01:52 | orangey | checks the database, seemingly.. |
| 01:52 | Chutt | it has to load settings from the database. |
| 01:52 | orangey | chutt: Could it not do that? |
| 01:52 | Chutt | such as your display size, what deinterlacing method, etc |
| 01:52 | Chutt | no. |
| 01:53 | Chutt | the 'mythtv' program is only there for me to test with. |
| 01:53 | orangey | chutt: I ask because I'm trying to find some native non-networked way of playing .nuv files (i.e., on laptop) |
| 01:53 | Chutt | run a local copy of mysql with a copy of your settings on it. |
| 01:53 | orangey | chutt: Is there no real way to play .nuv files offline, then? |
| 01:54 | Chutt | i just told you a way. |
| 01:54 | orangey | Yeah : ) |
| 01:55 | Chutt | transcode them into another format if you don't want to do that. |
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| 01:57 | orangey | OK, cool.. Thank you.. |
| 01:59 | dopester | bwahaha |
| 01:59 | dopester | got opencable working |
| 01:59 | dopester | was the damn drivers |
| 02:00 | orangey | what's open cable? |
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| 02:03 | Chutt | dopester, write the -dev list :p |
| 02:03 | dopester | yeah im about to |
| 02:03 | AndreasSB | good morning to all from germany! |
| 02:03 | dopester | my code was fine.. |
| 02:03 | dopester | damn dvb_demux.c code from 2 weeks ago is broken atleast for atsc |
| 02:04 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:05 | dopester | i think the dvb-kernel cvs is broken more than it works |
| 02:05 | dopester | i was sorta waiting to finish my testing tonight before i replied to that guy |
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| 02:10 | dopester | well chutt you can order your air2pc now :) |
| 02:14 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:14 | Chutt | i don't have a frontend that can playback hd, though |
| 02:14 | Chutt | well, unless i stop underclocking my 2200+ xp-m |
| 02:16 | GreyFoxx | Hrm, makes me wonder what I might be able to pull from my local cable company |
| 02:17 | dopester | probbably just local stations |
| 02:18 | dopester | thats what ive seen here on Time Warner, and thats what it sounds like for Comcast as well |
| 02:19 | GreyFoxx | Bah. Would have been nice to be able to get te HD stuff :) |
| 02:19 | dopester | i get the same thing on cable as i do ota with my antenna |
| 02:19 | dopester | only exception is the pbs hd station is on all the time on cable and its not ota |
| 02:19 | Beirdo | nice |
| 02:20 | GreyFoxx | I don't know of any OTA HDTV here, only over the air stuff I get is 3 or 4 regular channels :) |
| 02:20 | dopester | well if you are in the USA you should be getting something |
| 02:20 | Beirdo | I'll know tomorrow what OTA HDTV we have in Toronto |
| 02:20 | GreyFoxx | Canada :) |
| 02:20 | dopester | yeah aim your antenna south then :) |
| 02:20 | GreyFoxx | hehe |
| 02:21 | Beirdo | I bought a card that will only work in Windows, but will be fine in my gaming machine |
| 02:21 | Beirdo | I think from Halifax, you'd be pretty screwed for HDTV for a while |
| 02:21 | dopester | i can almost play this 1080i with libmpeg2 on my 2000+ so amazing.. |
| 02:22 | GreyFoxx | certainly no OTA. Several channels available on digital cable though |
| 02:22 | dopester | no guide on digital cable it looks like though |
| 02:29 | dopester | well i feel much better than last night.. tonight stuff works when im going to bed :) |
| 02:30 | Beirdo | much better feeling |
| 02:31 | dopester | yep |
| 02:31 | dopester | and knowing ive trumped the dudes in Utah by myself also feels good :) |
| 02:33 | Beirdo | vindictive SOB :) |
| 02:33 | dopester | yes i am.. |
| 02:33 | dopester | ;) |
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| 06:54 | stoffel | hey, i want the random quotes in mythweb back ;) |
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| 07:35 | stoffel | shouldn't dvd_settings.xml and dvdmenu.xml be deleted from cvs? as they are created from the .pre .mid and .post partial files |
| 08:02 | stoffel | anyone here familiar with the mythgallery code? it doesn't compile on debian unstable configured with --enable-exif. the exif_entry_get_value function seems to have changed |
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| 09:54 | rkulagow_ | wait a minute. mythtv.info is the official project wiki? really? |
| 09:54 | stoffel | hehe |
| 09:54 | laga | i dont think so |
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| 10:48 | mikegrb | rkulagow_: just like thegrebs.com/donations is the official project donations page ;) |
| 10:49 | stoffel | hm, what's the difference between scattered and isolated (in a weather forecast) |
| 10:49 | mikegrb | scattered is all over in bits |
| 10:49 | mikegrb | isolated is generally more contained |
| 10:50 | stoffel | contained? so concentrated on a few places |
| 10:50 | mikegrb | ja |
| 10:50 | stoffel | danke ;) |
| 10:51 | mikegrb | Sie sind willkommen |
| 10:51 | stoffel | Das ist schoen |
| 10:52 | mikegrb | :D |
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| 11:10 | stoffel | hmpf, what exactly is a wintry mix? |
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| 11:12 | laga | very good question ;) |
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| 11:12 | DarkHelmut | It means the temp is right around 32F, and they don't know whether you'll get rain, sleet, snow, or all 3 |
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| 11:58 | o_cee | Chutt, i'll go ahead and commit my filldata patch later today if you don't have any issues with it |
| 12:00 | mikegrb | I have issues with it. |
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| 12:05 | phh | hi |
| 12:05 | | * stoffel predicts phh actually wanted to join #mythtv-users ;) |
| 12:06 | phh | stoffel, i done both :) |
| 12:06 | | * mikegrb gives stoffel a cupcake |
| 12:06 | phh | i don't know if my ask is more for mythtv or mythtv-users |
| 12:06 | mikegrb | then it is for mythtv-users |
| 12:07 | stoffel | hm, yummy |
| 12:07 | mikegrb | :D |
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| 12:22 | dopester | thor_: try the qam patch now for the air2pc.. i got it working just fine.. I am going to have to do some playing to get it to do setup with myth.. |
| 12:22 | dopester | if you want to try it in myth you can screw with the dtv_multiplex table and get it to work.. |
| 12:33 | stoffel | o_cee: what happened with chutt's script to update themestrings.h? |
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| 12:43 | o_cee | stoffel, no idea, he promised to have em updated couple of days ago so i guess we'll see something soon.. :) |
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| 12:46 | danielholth | hello |
| 12:46 | danielholth | anyone know anything about using a bt878 ir receiver with another remote besides the one that came with it? |
| 12:47 | danielholth | I am enjoying mythtv quite a bit, connected to directv via serial cable to change channel. |
| 12:47 | danielholth | sorry, developers. |
| 12:47 | danielholth | I'll go to the other channel now. |
| 12:47 | laga | hehe |
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| 12:51 | dmakalsky | Hi everyone, anyone here using knoppmyth? |
| 12:53 | laga | read /topic, please |
| 12:53 | thor_ | dopester, I'm soloing with kiddies today, but will definitely play with it tonight |
| 12:55 | dopester | thats fine.. just wanted to let ya know it works :) |
| 12:58 | dopester | anyone here with an air2pc in a USDTV market? |
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| 13:15 | laroth_ | I've got the Air2PC card in the US. |
| 13:15 | dopester | are you in a market with USDTV? I.E. Las Vegas or LA or Chicago? :) |
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| 13:16 | laroth_ | Nope, sorry misready that. I'm in NW Ohio. |
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| 13:17 | laroth_ | Is that the company that uses spare bandwidth to sell pay channels? |
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| 13:17 | dopester | yeah |
| 13:18 | dopester | i wanted to get my access_controlled code in ParseVCT i just added |
| 13:18 | dopester | no way to test here |
| 13:18 | dopester | no one has sold out yet :) |
| 13:18 | dopester | in this market |
| 13:19 | mikegrb | (other then dopester) |
| 13:20 | dopester | ? |
| 13:20 | mikegrb | you are a sell out ;) |
| 13:22 | mikegrb | found out when heidi ordered new internet and cable here she got the "value high speed internet package" |
| 13:22 | mikegrb | it is fsking 256kb/256kb |
| 13:22 | dopester | bwahaha |
| 13:23 | mikegrb | in other words I got 50.2KB/s on a bandwidth test page |
| 13:23 | mikegrb | slower then 56K dialup! |
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| 13:37 | AndreasSB | hello to all! |
| 13:37 | AndreasSB | i am a newbie in linux and i search for a debian-package? |
| 13:37 | AndreasSB | is anyone there, can help me? |
| 13:37 | laga | AndreasSB: this is the development channel. |
| 13:38 | laga | AndreasSB: you probably want to join #mythtv-user or #myth-de (german) |
| 13:38 | AndreasSB | THANK YOU VERY MUCH! i will try #myth-de |
| 13:38 | AndreasSB | good evening! |
| 13:38 | laga | :) |
| 13:38 | laga | AndreasSB: sorry. it's #mythtv-de |
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| 16:30 | Anduin | Why aren't the versions in mythcontext.h defined in some version header that is only included where it is needed? Would a patch that made it so be accepted? |
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| 16:37 | Chutt | well, generally, the lib version number only changes when binary incompatability has been broken |
| 16:37 | Chutt | err, compatability, rather |
| 16:37 | Chutt | hard to break incompatability |
| 16:37 | Chutt | =) |
| 16:38 | Chutt | i like having it in mythcontext.h as a way to force recompiles |
| 16:38 | Anduin | yeah but it has changed at least twice in the last two days, resulting in compiles that are 7x normal. |
| 16:38 | Chutt | right |
| 16:39 | Chutt | but those were legitimate changes |
| 16:39 | Chutt | everything's going to get recompiled anyway... |
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| 16:39 | davatar | hi all.. I guess nobody has had an interest in using 2+ threads for avcodec since last year eh? |
| 16:40 | Anduin | sure, but let the legit changes hit mythcontext and force a recompile not just the version... ok, I admit I didn't actually look at what changed in mythcontxt, I guess it was going to happen anyway |
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| 16:41 | Anduin | curse you cvs server with no diskspace in /tmp |
| 16:41 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:42 | Chutt | none 32768 0 32768 0% /tmp |
| 16:42 | Chutt | it's all clear :p |
| 16:42 | Chutt | i need to remind snowman to double that again |
| 16:42 | Anduin | yeah, two failed, followed by working |
| 16:42 | Chutt | it gets cleared every 15 minutes or so. |
| 16:43 | Baylink | Was the timestretch stuff from a BZ patch? Trying to figure out how we accidentally turned it on last night.. :-} |
| 16:43 | Chutt | a bz patch? |
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| 16:43 | Anduin | Baylink - you have to enable it even when it is on |
| 16:43 | Anduin | Baylink - unless you have my version where you can set defaults per record setting |
| 16:43 | Chutt | with the default keybindings, i think the only way to enable it is through the playback menu |
| 16:44 | Baylink | A patch posted on bugzilla; yes. Hmmm. I *thought* we got it merely by hitting the wrong key, but I know we didn't bind it on purpose. |
| 16:44 | Chutt | err, ah |
| 16:44 | Chutt | 'A' will pop up the slider to select the speed |
| 16:46 | Baylink | Ah. Yeah, I can see how we might have hit that. |
| 16:46 | Baylink | Silly ass IR keyboard: KeyUp events sometimes go missing. |
| 16:46 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:46 | Baylink | Suspect ambient IR in room, but can't nail it down. |
| 16:49 | Chutt | anduin, cvs should be compiling quicker due to jeremiah's settings changes |
| 16:49 | Chutt | he copied my compile speedups into most of the other settings files |
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| 16:51 | Anduin | normally it takes about 2 minutes for ccache to grind through, the context patches pushed it out to 15+ minutes |
| 16:51 | Chutt | right |
| 16:51 | Chutt | but a full recompile should be a bit quicker these days |
| 16:51 | Chutt | well, this day |
| 16:51 | Anduin | but yeah, I understand |
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| 16:55 | Torq | Chutt: how did you feel about your name in lights on the front page of section 2 of the NY times? |
| 16:56 | Chutt | crappy article |
| 16:56 | Torq | Did you know it was going to be published? |
| 16:56 | Chutt | yeah |
| 16:56 | Chutt | didn't know they were going to lump me in with bittorrent crap |
| 16:56 | Torq | oh well. do you want me to mail you the section of the paper |
| 16:56 | Chutt | i picked one up earlier |
| 16:57 | Torq | oh, didnt know you got it out there |
| 16:57 | Chutt | yes, we have bookstores in ohio :p |
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| 16:57 | mikegrb | puhwahahahahah |
| 16:57 | Torq | People can read there? |
| 16:58 | mikegrb | we even get it in florida |
| 16:58 | Chutt | well, some people can |
| 16:58 | dopester | i think about 3% of this place is literate sometimes.. |
| 16:58 | mikegrb | dopester: higher |
| 16:58 | mikegrb | dopester: all the people not reading the topic and what not |
| 16:58 | Chutt | anduin, and, be glad of your 15 minute compile. last i checked, mine was closer to 25 :( |
| 16:59 | Torq | not including Qt... |
| 16:59 | Chutt | i've never compiled qt :p |
| 16:59 | Anduin | Chutt - yeah, I long ago stopped compiling myth on the box I run it on, has made my life much better. |
| 16:59 | Chutt | i just need a faster dev box |
| 16:59 | dopester | and a box to playback hd :) |
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| 17:00 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:01 | Chutt | website's done 40GB of traffic today |
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| 17:01 | Torq | thats a lot... |
| 17:01 | Chutt | i'm glad the screenshots are still at sourceforge =) |
| 17:01 | Torq | I didnt think the website had code or anything on it |
| 17:02 | Torq | presumably you have had a spike post NY times.. got any charts |
| 17:02 | jedsmith | hey there guys |
| 17:03 | Chutt | no public ones |
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| 17:04 | jedsmith | i haven't personally used your software, but someone referred me to your project as a good place to start browsing. i'm working on a video router using my unused system, and i'd like to do full functionality, maybe previews of what's on each input, and so forth |
| 17:04 | | * Torq points jedsmith at the /topic |
| 17:04 | jedsmith | i'm not asking for user help |
| 17:04 | Torq | yes you are |
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| 17:04 | jedsmith | i'm writing software, and i was wondering what sort of techniques you developers employ to process video |
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| 17:05 | jedsmith | i'm not familiar with processing video as a rule, i'm looking for a pointer in the right direction -- if that's a "user" question, i'm awfully surprised |
| 17:06 | jedsmith | and it just adds to my image of freenode as a whole |
| 17:09 | danielholth | hello developers, I have some kind of bug: when I try to change the channel, with a channel change script, I get this error: QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range and the channel does not change. |
| 17:09 | danielholth | it is intermittent. |
| 17:09 | danielholth | 0.16 on gentoo. |
| 17:10 | mikegrb | probably because of gentoo |
| 17:11 | jedsmith | so no recommendations for books or places to start? have i hoped for too much from the all-busy programmers working on an open project that hasn't even hit 1.0? doth my request for a tip incense you, oh all-knowing beasts of prowess? |
| 17:12 | Anduin | jedsmith - look at mythfrontend |
| 17:13 | jedsmith | thank you Anduin. i assume that's your graphical overlay? |
| 17:13 | Anduin | jedsmith - and comments like that probably aren't going to inspire anyone to help |
| 17:13 | Anduin | jedsmith - no that is the code which calls the code which decodes |
| 17:13 | jedsmith | i don't think i've inspired anybody, and i was shunned right off the bat, so i don't feel i'm burning any bridges. |
| 17:13 | jedsmith | ah, okay |
| 17:14 | jedsmith | i'm looking to just pass video through without processing, hopefully, from a tuner card to a straight out, but i'd like to do overlays |
| 17:14 | jedsmith | this router is matrix, so i'm going to have multiple-outs, and that sort of thing. |
| 17:15 | jedsmith | what's an interface from a tuner card like? grab each individual frame? |
| 17:15 | Anduin | jedsmith - look at mythbackend for that |
| 17:15 | Anduin | jedsmith - of just v4l |
| 17:15 | jedsmith | are these modules in your cvs? or just subdirectories of mythtv? |
| 17:16 | Anduin | jedsmith - large sections, programs, and directories |
| 17:16 | jedsmith | cool. |
| 17:16 | GreyFoxx | cvs -z3 -d :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/mythcvs checkout mythtv |
| 17:17 | jedsmith | /var/lib? yuck ;) |
| 17:17 | jedsmith | thanks for the pointer |
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| 17:19 | GreyFoxx | oops |
| 17:19 | GreyFoxx | tht was an accidental paste of course |
| 17:20 | jedsmith | oh. |
| 17:20 | GreyFoxx | was was grabbing the latest cvs source in another window :) |
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| 17:22 | mikegrb | or since your questions have absolutely nothing to do with mythtv development you could do what everyone before you has done and just read the fucking v4l speck rather then asking for it to be handed to you with no work on your part |
| 17:24 | jedsmith | i'm not developing on linux, so obviously, v4l has nothing to do with me, now does it |
| 17:25 | jedsmith | how about dropping the holier than thou attitude and realizing that your knowledge doesn't make you any more of a superior person, and that sharing a little tiny bit of knowledge with someone outside your circle isn't going to hurt you |
| 17:25 | Beirdo | then why are you asking questions on a development channel for a Linux program? |
| 17:25 | cmorgan | mikegrb: man, no need to get all pissed off about people asking questions |
| 17:25 | Torq | why dont you take this fucking crap conversation elsewhere? |
| 17:25 | jedsmith | because i'm looking for (read this carefully, now) general advice and pointers on processing video on a computer |
| 17:25 | mikegrb | Beirdo: because he can't read |
| 17:25 | jedsmith | you know, problems we solve, it's what we do, we're called programmers |
| 17:26 | mikegrb | jedsmith: then why do you want people to solve the problems for you? |
| 17:26 | cmorgan | jedsmith: yeah well people here aren't always as friendly as they could be |
| 17:26 | jedsmith | we don't turn out one product and become obsessed with ourselves and seek to shove all our fellow kind away |
| 17:26 | Torq | should have ignored him in the first place |
| 17:26 | jedsmith | i'm not asking for having one problem solved, am i |
| 17:26 | jedsmith | am i asking you to write my software? no. i'm looking for general advice from people that work with video on how working with video on a computer works |
| 17:26 | Beirdo | jedsmith: this channel is for the development of MythTV, not for general video programming questions, unfortunately for you :) |
| 17:26 | jedsmith | because it's the one field i haven't tackled yet |
| 17:27 | | * Torq wishes jedsmith would GO AWAY |
| 17:27 | jedsmith | oh christ, have i infringed upon your bubble? |
| 17:27 | mikegrb | Torq: everyone does |
| 17:27 | jedsmith | give it a rest, it's not like there's scrolling cvs commits you need to constantly watch in here |
| 17:27 | Beirdo | jedsmith: read the topic. |
| 17:27 | jedsmith | i did read the topic |
| 17:27 | cmorgan | jedsmith: feel free to pm me if you want to chat |
| 17:28 | Torq | jedsmith: I pointed you at the topic when you joined, go to flaming mythtv-users, this belongs there |
| 17:28 | jedsmith | i have nothing to do with mythtv whatsoever, i was looking for people versed in video-related programming to shed a little bit of advice |
| 17:28 | jedsmith | no, it doesn't. because not only do i not use your software, i don't plan on it |
| 17:28 | jedsmith | that moves me from "user" to "independent programmer" |
| 17:28 | Torq | bullshit |
| 17:28 | mikegrb | jedsmith: "i have nothing to do with mythtv whatsoever," exactly why you should not be here |
| 17:28 | bomba | hilarious |
| 17:28 | Beirdo | the people in #ffmpeg (if they are around) may be able to give you info |
| 17:28 | jedsmith | there's one gem of advice |
| 17:28 | GreyFoxx | #ffmpeg is a much better place |
| 17:29 | GreyFoxx | '\\\\\\\\\\= |
| 17:29 | jedsmith | thank you Beirdo, you've just proved once and for all that all developers that work on this project aren't full of themselves |
| 17:29 | GreyFoxx | \oops, my kid decided to type that |
| 17:29 | jedsmith | i mean, christ, people, do you ever wake up in the morning and say, man, i'm a jackass to people on irc? |
| 17:29 | cmorgan | hah |
| 17:29 | Beirdo | GreyFoxx: \\\\\\\\\= to you too |
| 17:29 | Torq | jedsmith: suggestion, shut the fuck up? |
| 17:29 | jedsmith | do you have any idea how honestly stupid you sound, Torq |
| 17:29 | jedsmith | i'm off topic, wow, the world's still spinning |
| 17:30 | Torq | you clearly have no idea how stupid YOU sound. |
| 17:30 | jedsmith | it's not like one person going off topic is going to shut down your entire fucking product |
| 17:30 | Beirdo | some channels like to stay on topic. This is one of them |
| 17:30 | jedsmith | staying on topic at the cost of personal insults and introduction of vulgarity and adandonment of common sense? |
| 17:30 | mikegrb | and you have no respectg for that and therefore no respect for the people in the channel |
| 17:30 | jedsmith | correct, i don't |
| 17:31 | mikegrb | therefore you have given us permission to treat you however the hell we wish |
| 17:31 | jedsmith | because i haven't gotten any respect since i arrived |
| 17:31 | Torq | you havnt earned any fucking respect. |
| 17:31 | jedsmith | i've been treated like some piece of worthless goo that you high and mighty, linux PVR programmers step on |
| 17:31 | jedsmith | you treat people the way you want to be treated, if my morality training hasn't left me |
| 17:31 | mikegrb | because that is how you treated us |
| 17:31 | jedsmith | no |
| 17:31 | GreyFoxx | jedsmith: You sir are a fool with apparently very little in the way of social skills |
| 17:31 | jedsmith | i asked |
| 17:31 | jedsmith | a question |
| 17:32 | mikegrb | by not respectging our wish to be on topic |
| 17:32 | Beirdo | whatever. You are in the wrong channel, please respect the channel or piss off |
| 17:32 | Torq | you needed to be trained in morality? geez |
| 17:32 | mikegrb | and we told you the question was not for this channel |
| 17:32 | cmorgan | people asking questions aren't assholes, it doesn't hurt to be tolerant |
| 17:32 | jedsmith | what channel's it for, then, genius |
| 17:32 | jedsmith | mythtv-users? |
| 17:32 | jedsmith | i'd get "your question is not about mythtv" |
| 17:32 | jedsmith | think ahead |
| 17:33 | jedsmith | i was looking to communicate with -programmers- about a topic i felt would be -discussable- |
| 17:33 | mikegrb | well you were wrong |
| 17:33 | jedsmith | but apparently i've found the sorriest two-bit bug patchers this side of ircle |
| 17:33 | mikegrb | we told you that and you had to talk about how we were all that |
| 17:33 | GreyFoxx | Maybe, just MAYBE there is no channel for it. That doesn't mean that this one would suddenly become it. Besides. You';ve now been given a place to start (#ffmpeg). You are still here because you want to feel righteous and strike back at those who DARED not help you |
| 17:33 | mikegrb | you are just jealous of our 1337 skill |
| 17:33 | jedsmith | you act like you are -- you're off topic, that's a reason to smite you and tell you to go solve your own fucking problems |
| 17:33 | jedsmith | your 1337 skill? |
| 17:33 | jedsmith | you write linux software to copy a tivo |
| 17:33 | jedsmith | wow |
| 17:34 | | * GreyFoxx decides to now longer add to the drivel |
| 17:34 | jedsmith | i'm honestly truly fucking impressed, now, you are programmers, you had a problem, you solved it |
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| 17:34 | jedsmith | it works great |
| 17:34 | GreyFoxx | you sir, are not worth the effort |
| 17:34 | jedsmith | apparently a lot of people are happy with your product |
| 17:34 | Beirdo | you have no idea |
| 17:34 | jedsmith | i looked to garner a little bit of knowledge about how you got started for a completely unrelated project |
| 17:34 | Torq | but a lot of people also think youre an asshole. get with the program. |
| 17:35 | jedsmith | i'm an asshole for asking a question? |
| 17:35 | jedsmith | i didn't turn asshole until treated asshole |
| 17:35 | Beirdo | and at least one person has said to go to pm with him, but you carry on ranting here |
| 17:35 | bomba | jedsmith: are you new to IRC? |
| 17:35 | Torq | youre an asshole for persisting |
| 17:35 | mikegrb | bomba: apearentl |
| 17:35 | mikegrb | y |
| 17:35 | jedsmith | new to freenode |
| 17:35 | jedsmith | this is my third experience with freenode and they have all turned out the same |
| 17:35 | Beirdo | maybe you should learn then |
| 17:35 | jedsmith | the general attitude on this network is 'if you're off topic, you're satan' |
| 17:35 | jedsmith | learn? |
| 17:35 | mikegrb | well then I would it might be a problem with you then |
| 17:35 | jedsmith | i already have common sense |
| 17:36 | mikegrb | obviously not |
| 17:36 | mikegrb | are you masochistic? |
| 17:36 | mikegrb | I think so. |
| 17:36 | Torq | maybe freenode isnt for you then, go back to your kiddie channels. |
| 17:36 | bomba | jedsmith: try lurking around on a channel for a while before pissing everyone off |
| 17:36 | jedsmith | "kiddie channels" |
| 17:36 | jedsmith | now can any of you give me one valid reason to get so incensed about going off topic |
| 17:36 | jedsmith | one |
| 17:37 | Beirdo | sure. |
| 17:37 | Torq | yeah, kiddie channels, where you chat up the little kiddies. |
| 17:37 | jedsmith | i respect you desiring to stay on channel, but why fly off the handle? it's just irc |
| 17:37 | Beirdo | the topic is meant to be read and obeyed |
| 17:37 | jedsmith | "obeyed" |
| 17:37 | mikegrb | it is quite anoying that 10 people a day want to come in here and not read the topic |
| 17:37 | Beirdo | if you don't like how people run their channels, stay the hell out of them |
| 17:37 | jedsmith | i respect that |
| 17:37 | mikegrb | at least these people generally apologize and go elsewhere when pointed at it |
| 17:37 | jedsmith | he presented a valid point |
| 17:38 | jedsmith | okay, i see what happened |
| 17:38 | jedsmith | i got lumped in with two-bit rednecks that come in here after setting up your product and wondering how the hell to do something |
| 17:38 | mikegrb | you think you are better then that and you deserve to have your queries answered no matter what they are and no matter how far from the topic they are |
| 17:38 | jedsmith | i don't think i'm better than anybody |
| 17:38 | jedsmith | i think i'm equal to you, at least |
| 17:38 | mikegrb | then why are yoiu still here trying to lecture uss? |
| 17:38 | jedsmith | because your attitude is a joke |
| 17:38 | Torq | so fucking what? |
| 17:38 | jedsmith | your collective attitude is honestly a fucking joke |
| 17:39 | mikegrb | you are not our mommy |
| 17:39 | jedsmith | this entire network's collective attitude is a joke |
| 17:39 | mikegrb | it is none of your business |
| 17:39 | mikegrb | if you don't like it, leave and go where you are wanted |
| 17:39 | GreyFoxx | he's still here because his ego is forcing him to try and "win" and be "right" by scolding us children for not bowing to him :) |
| 17:39 | jedsmith | no, i'm still here because you want me to leave |
| 17:39 | Torq | go lie down in a dark room and take a few pills |
| 17:39 | mikegrb | GreyFoxx: exactly |
| 17:39 | jedsmith | i honestly can't believe the backlash for one person asking a question |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | you guys work on an open source project |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | didn't you expect questions on your code? |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | where the hell do those go? |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | mythtv-code? |
| 17:40 | mikegrb | you aren't asking about the code |
| 17:40 | GreyFoxx | jedsmith: The backlash is not for asking the question. It was your continues overreation to the answer you got that is causing it :) |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | i was going to ask what part of the code to read |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | and then ask a couple questions on the code, perhaps |
| 17:40 | mikegrb | someone pointed you to the code and you had no idea wehat they were talking about |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | exactly |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | and i downloaded the code, and i have it open |
| 17:40 | jedsmith | but i got a jackass remark from you to go solve my own fucking problems |
| 17:41 | Torq | jedsmith: how old are you? anybody with your attitude must have some pretty serious social problems. |
| 17:41 | Beirdo | Get bent, will ya? |
| 17:41 | jedsmith | my age not only has nothing to do with this discussion but is something i'm not going to give you |
| 17:41 | mikegrb | Torq: 12 |
| 17:41 | jedsmith | precisely why |
| 17:41 | mikegrb | Torq: or 45 living in parent's basement |
| 17:42 | jedsmith | touch\xE9 |
| 17:42 | Torq | mike: aye, I'm trying to decide which one it is. |
| 17:42 | jedsmith | keep trying |
| 17:42 | jedsmith | maybe you'll get your head out of your ass for five minutes |
| 17:43 | Beirdo | Maybe if Chutt were here, you'd be gone already |
| 17:43 | jedsmith | maybe |
| 17:43 | mikegrb | or if this was another network |
| 17:43 | Anduin | jedsmith - you should stop and talk to cmorgan if he will still have you, scrolling up should give you at least one reason to stay on topic. |
| 17:43 | dopester | /ignore is a useful thing |
| 17:43 | Torq | Just did google on "jed smith" apparently he is a famous gay porn star. |
| 17:44 | jedsmith | hah. |
| 17:44 | Torq | first hit on google |
| 17:44 | jedsmith | thanks for making me laugh. |
| 17:44 | dopester | im a gymnist if you search for my name :) |
| 17:44 | jedsmith | actually, if you google my name, the first hit is a cross country running event that has nothing to do with me |
| 17:44 | jedsmith | but is named after me |
| 17:45 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:45 | Chutt | funny conversation |
| 17:45 | Beirdo | :) |
| 17:45 | Chutt | jedsmith, you do know that none of the people you're talking to are developers, right? :p |
| 17:45 | mikegrb | Chutt: <3 |
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| 17:45 | mikegrb | hey I have submitted a total of three accepted patches! |
| 17:45 | dopester | chutt: jams is reportin success with the qam patch as well so thats 3 successes and 0 failures now for QAM |
| 17:45 | GreyFoxx | hehehe We didn';t want to tell him that :) |
| 17:45 | mikegrb | well 4 sort of |
| 17:45 | jedsmith | i'm not surprised, Chutt |
| 17:45 | Chutt | cool. |
| 17:46 | GreyFoxx | It was too fun to watch :)_ |
| 17:46 | Chutt | dopester, what's the url for the card again? |
| 17:46 | Beirdo | I've done a bunch of patches for nuvexport ;) |
| 17:46 | Beirdo | but still |
| 17:46 | mikegrb | Beirdo: <3 |
| 17:46 | dopester | http://www.cyberestore.com is one plac that sells it |
| 17:46 | jedsmith | i'm sorry if i strayed off topic, but honestly, it was just too good to pass up' |
| 17:46 | Beirdo | reminds me, I should finish that. |
| 17:46 | dopester | chutt: the bbti website has just about no info on it |
| 17:46 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:46 | Torq | You're still a dickhead. |
| 17:46 | dopester | just a pdf that is pretty vague |
| 17:47 | jedsmith | first, let me make sure this is logged |
| 17:47 | jedsmith | so i can have a laugh for the next month |
| 17:47 | jedsmith | and then i'll be on my way |
| 17:47 | jedsmith | cool, cheerio |
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| 17:47 | Torq | geez |
| 17:47 | Beirdo | now to get back to work :) |
| 17:49 | Chutt | dopester, i'm ordering one. |
| 17:49 | dopester | cool |
| 17:51 | Chutt | wow |
| 17:51 | Chutt | $12 for shipping |
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| 17:55 | o_cee | Chutt, no response to my patch on the list. did you have time to look at it? |
| 17:56 | Chutt | it looked fine to me when i skimmed it |
| 17:56 | Chutt | go ahead and commit it if you want to |
| 17:56 | Chutt | there's a week to fix bugs if there are any =) |
| 17:56 | Chutt | dopester, there, card ordered. should have it this week =) |
| 17:56 | o_cee | allrighty :) just need to check if there's been any dbcheck updates.. |
| 17:56 | Chutt | there have, i believe. |
| 17:57 | o_cee | yeah think i saw that as well |
| 17:57 | Chutt | make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/mythtv/mythtv/i18n' |
| 17:57 | Chutt | real 30m37.548s |
| 17:57 | Chutt | see, that just sucks. |
| 17:57 | o_cee | :/ |
| 17:57 | o_cee | make em optional or something |
| 17:57 | Chutt | no, that's the full build |
| 17:57 | o_cee | ah |
| 17:57 | o_cee | hehe |
| 17:58 | o_cee | dunno how long it takes here, running one 3ghz and one 2ghz |
| 18:01 | Baylink | Yeah, 30 minutes wall time is about what I see too; Barton 2500, 512MB; 7200RPM drives. |
| 18:02 | davatar | dopster: talking about the hd-3000 or Air2PC? |
| 18:03 | dopester | davatar: in reference to what? |
| 18:03 | davatar | dopester: qam patch |
| 18:03 | dopester | Air2PC |
| 18:03 | dopester | if i talk about the pchdtv its usually negative |
| 18:03 | dopester | if i talk about the air2pc its usually positive |
| 18:03 | dopester | then again i wrote the demod drivers for the air2pc so im a bit biased :) |
| 18:05 | davatar | is the company being friendly to linux? |
| 18:05 | dopester | yeah |
| 18:07 | johnp | it's broken. |
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| 18:08 | johnp | (sorry wrong window) |
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| 18:47 | dopester | Chutt: do you mind if a submit fixes in 1 patch instead of 5-10 smaller ones? |
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| 18:59 | Chutt | sure |
| 18:59 | dopester | ok good :) |
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| 19:39 | mikegrb | score, mother in law is buying us a new car seat |
| 19:39 | mikegrb | a $180 leather eddie bauer car seat with cup holders and shit |
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| 19:47 | o_cee | Chutt, rest of hiros patches ok? utf8 stuff |
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| 19:54 | o_cee | also, should i add those categories for tv_grab_nl? guess it'll be ok for now |
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| 20:05 | o_cee | time for some sleep, g'night |
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