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00:08Netslayer fkn NYTimes reporter.. what a slanted story
00:10Tommck anyone know why my CVS install is missing the mysql.txt file?
00:10Netslayer Chutt, so what do you think about that article? i'm sure they didn't interview you right
00:11Captain_Murdo| geckofriend jumping on some clueless guy's case on slashdot..... :)
00:12Captain_Murdo| Netslayer: they didn't but I think he said he knew the article was being printed.
00:14Beirdo hehhe
00:14Beirdo go, geckofiend :)
00:15* Captain_Murd just learned (from another clueless slashdot user) that Myth is Linux only and that they ported Freevo over to FreeBSD (wow, it's python, how hard could the port have been)
00:15* Captain_Murd is getting his "laugh at stupid people's comments" fix in for tonight.
00:16Tommck who cares if it runs on FreeBSD anyway?
00:16Captain_Murdo| this guy evidently. :)
00:16Tommck I love how some people rate software on how many platforms it runs on..
00:17Chutt myth compiles/runs on freebsd
00:17Captain_Murdo| best software in the world, "hello world"
00:17Chutt and i'm a college student, apparently
00:17Tommck anyone who's written cross-platform C++ code knows it a huge pain in the ass... and I'd rather Myth concentrate on functionality and ease of use, not getting it to work on FreeBSD or the Mac Mini
00:17Captain_Murdo| runs everywhere, ported to many languages, etc..
00:17Tommck Captain :)
00:17Chutt tommck, why not?
00:17Chutt cross platform code is _better_ code.
00:18Captain_Murdo| Tommck: the thing is that Myth is already running on several other OS, even non-x86 ones.
00:18Tommck I disagree... it's all the OS-specific stuff... like sockets, etc that wind up having to be abstracted and take a lot of time to do... I don't mean the main core... of course, you should stick with standards
00:18Chutt i haven't done a single thing for sockets
00:19Tommck of course.. the last time I did cross platform C++ was in 1996
00:19Chutt that's what using these things called 'toolkits' are for
00:19Tommck scratch that...98
00:19Tommck Chutt - this is where I feel old...
00:19Captain_Murdo| Tommck: not to sound offensive, but we can tell. :)
00:19Chutt oh, and cvs creates mysql.txt if necessary.
00:19Tommck I understand.
00:19Chutt i've written cross platform network stuff, etc, etc
00:20Tommck Chutt - according to the docs, it's necessary for a front-end to connect to the back end
00:20Chutt i don't see the need to do it again when Qt does it all.
00:20Chutt Tommck, and the docs are for 0.16.
00:20Tommck Chutt - me too.. 2 or 3 times... and Qt didn't exist when I was doing it
00:20Chutt why 2 or 3 times?
00:20Tommck Chutt - oh...
00:20Tommck different companies
00:20Tommck non-OSS :)
00:20Chutt the first time you run mythfrontend, it attempts to connect to the mysql server using the default settings
00:20Chutt if it fails, it prompts you.
00:20Chutt then creates the file.
00:21Tommck not allowed to take code with you when the employer owns it
00:21Tommck Chutt - sweet :)
00:21Netslayer oh so mythtv finally doesn't require any config files :-P
00:21Chutt which you would have known if you had just tried it, but...
00:21Chutt yup.
00:21Netslayer i remember those discussions
00:21Tommck I am kind of a "planner" :)
00:21Chutt aside from the initial database setup
00:21Netslayer hows that mythsteam stuff working?
00:21Tommck I don't just try things... get myself in trouble that way
00:21Netslayer stream
00:21Chutt askind questions first is silly
00:21Chutt never learn anything
00:22dmakalsky Hi, can someone please point me to the correct modprobe.conf setting for the pvr 350
00:22Chutt dmakalsky, this isn't the ivtv channel.
00:22Tommck Chutt - I've had plenty 0problems even with asking lots of questions :)
00:22dmakalsky oh, I am sorry
00:22Chutt nor the mythtv users help channel
00:22dmakalsky which should I use?
00:22Netslayer dmakalsky, #ivtv
00:22Chutt is anyone even there anymore? :p
00:22dmakalsky my apologies
00:22Netslayer err #ivtv-dev
00:23Netslayer ivtv looks empty
00:23Chutt captain_murdoch, new commercial skip stuff's working pretty well for me
00:23Chutt you just need to add some simple aspect ratio detection, and i think it'll catch the few things it's missing
00:25Captain_Murdo| cool. yeah, I've got code started on that and have a guy who is supposed to be getting me a sample where the video actually changes, not just letterboxxed. that way I can check for both.
00:25Chutt dvb?
00:26Captain_Murdo| yeah, a guy in the UK.
00:26Chutt the decoder tells the videoout class about those types of changes
00:26Chutt shouldn't be difficult
00:26Chutt i think you applied that patch that dealt with the osd repositioning on size change, right?
00:26Captain_Murdo| right. I put a hook in NVP::SetVideoParams to call a method in the commercial flagger if the commDetect object exists. that way during flagging, I should catch those.
00:27Captain_Murdo| yeah. seems to work but I thought there might be one or two places where it needed a little tweaking on the positioning. seemed off a little on one aspect I think but I can't remember for sure.
00:27Chutt saw some complaints about it
00:27Chutt might have been related to aspect changes
00:28Captain_Murdo| think that was Kevin's. did they say they were using current CVS? I saw someone talking about it but didn't see if they were referring to 0.16 or CVS.
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00:28Chutt yeah
00:28Captain_Murdo| Kevin's code..
00:28Chutt current cvs
00:28Captain_Murdo| wonder if it's 16:9 content initially. couldn't test that case.
00:29Captain_Murdo| I'll make a note to look over it again to see if I can reproduce anything.
00:29Chutt cool, thanks.
00:29Chutt no big deal, but if you get a chance =)
00:31Captain_Murdo| well, I'm not working on anything that needs to go in before 0.17. I can't reproduce that auto-skip bug some people have mentioned. I've debated reworking that code but will have to think about it a bit. I think I made it too complicated to begin with and maybe it's got a hole somewhere. should just replicate the cutlist skip code since they both do the same thing essentially just with different skip lists.
00:32Chutt should be using the same code
00:33Captain_Murdo| yeah.
00:36Captain_Murdo| hadn't thought of it that way, but that would make it easier. just make a common QMap. populate with cutlist if one exists, else skip list if auto-skip is on, then if map is non-empty use it to skip.
00:37Captain_Murdo| probably have time to code that up in the next day or so.
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00:39Captain_Murdo| some else promoting a p2p app for video in Myth on the -users list.
00:39Captain_Murdo| err, suggesting, not promoting cause there isn't one.
00:41Chutt fuckin hell
00:41Chutt the dvb code isn't doing database stuff right.
00:42dopester uh oh
00:42dopester the last of prepares?
00:42dopester er lack?
00:42Chutt no
00:42Chutt the lack of locking
00:42Chutt and using the default database connection instead of the passed in one
00:42Chutt the lack of prepares is broken, too, but this is more serious.
00:43Chutt SIScan::UpdateServicesInDB
00:43Chutt QSqlQuery query;
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00:43Chutt creates a query using the default database connection
00:43Chutt without any sort of locking
00:43Chutt SIScan::ScanServicesSourceID
00:43Chutt does it properly.
00:43Chutt i was going to add the prepare/bindValues for you, but i don't feel like rewriting all that shit
00:44dopester naw SIScan needs a lot of work
00:44Chutt it needs reworked in the next couple days.
00:44dopester its not your problem
00:44Chutt else i'll have to pull it.
00:44dopester :)
00:44Chutt i won't ship with obvious crashes
00:45Chutt SIScan::UpdateTransportsInDB
00:45Chutt broken
00:45Chutt SIScan::GetDVBTID
00:45Chutt broken
00:45dopester thats it? i thought it was much worse than that
00:45Chutt SIScan::GenerateNewChanID
00:45Chutt broken.
00:45Chutt SIScan::AddEvents
00:46Chutt siparser.cpp looks fine.
00:47Chutt there's unsafe code in dvbchannel.cpp
00:47Chutt and dvbtransporteditor.cpp
00:47Chutt scanwizard looks fine.
00:48dopester let me write this down.. :)
00:48Chutt _all_ database access must be locked
00:48dopester :)
00:48Chutt _all_ QSqlQuery objects must be initialized either by a db->exec()
00:48Chutt or by using a constructor with a db object in them
00:48Chutt no QSqlQuery query;
00:50Chutt your patch is in cvs.
00:52dopester chutt: both of them?
00:53Chutt not the log level
00:53Chutt i don't want to recompile everything at the moment.
00:54dopester ok thats fine
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00:54dopester just as long as you saw it :)
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00:54lyken i read in the mailing lists of september 2004 that postgresql was discussed as being supported
00:54lyken but i can't find anything else
00:54lyken has that happened?
00:57Chutt nope
00:57Chutt no one's done the work.
00:57dopester chutt: so QSqlQuery query(db_conn); is ok?
00:57Chutt nope
00:57Chutt doesn't exist in 3.1
00:58Chutt you need to use query(QString::null, db_conn)
00:58dopester ok thats easy enough to fix in 1 pass hopefully..
00:58Chutt nope
00:58Chutt you should also fix the prepare/bindValue things while you're at it :p
00:58lyken ok thanks Chutt ill take a look at the source and see what needs to be done
00:59dopester the prepare/bindValue going to get it axed as well?
00:59Chutt lyken, no, read my mails on the list, first
00:59lyken i have
00:59Chutt dopester, well, it's only the queries dealing with strings that _need_ it
00:59Chutt shouldn't be difficult
00:59dopester yeah i just want to do this in steps
00:59Chutt lyken, i go through how i'd want it to be done - ie., minimal impact to the code
01:00dopester i thouht al the string queries had prepares but i'll get it out..
01:00lyken Chutt: yeah i was going to do that
01:00Chutt lyken, find david hardeman's more recent messages - he had been working on it, submitted some initial patches
01:00Chutt but hasn't posted since december sometime
01:00Chutt might want to touch base with him to see if he's still interested on working on it
01:00Chutt i probably pissed him off a bit, though
01:00dopester grr.. the QSqlQuery stuff i betcha i cut and pasted from Kenneths first crap code..
01:01Chutt so, i dunno
01:01lyken Chutt: heh, ok
01:01lyken hmm is there a way to search the mail list?
01:01Chutt there's a link on the website to gossamer-threads
01:01Chutt he submitted this bigass patch that touched basically every query in libmyth/libmythtv (ie, quite a lot)
01:01dopester chutt: have you grepped for QSqlQuery query? its everywhere not just my code
01:01Chutt dopester, it's allowed in certain places.
01:02Chutt not in secondary threads like yours, though :p
01:02Chutt but that bigass patch had some errors in it
01:02lyken *nods*
01:03Chutt so i spend 4 or 5 hours applying it fixing things, then he comes along and says it had some broken parts and didn't exactly say where
01:03lyken yeah ive been installing myth on machines with mysql but for my install i want postgres
01:03Chutt and just sent in an updated patch
01:03Chutt just created a lot more work for me, so i put off fixing things, then he got annoyed when i didn't apply stuff right away
01:03Chutt aanyway
01:03Chutt back to applying other people's patches
01:04lyken oks
01:04lyken ill take all this in and see what i can do thats constructive
01:04Chutt that'd be cool
01:04Chutt i'd _like_ other dbs supported, i just don't want to do any work for it =)
01:04lyken with the new postgres release a lot of the concerns about the version differences looks to be resolved
01:05lyken i can understand that
01:09lyken ok found the thread
01:09lyken ill read through this and get back to you if i can help
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01:24lyken what os are you dev'ing on?
01:24lyken debian unstable still?
01:25Chutt yup
01:25Chutt run ubuntu on my production tv box, though
01:25lyken ok
01:25lyken i was gonna do my dev on slackware..
01:26Chutt whatever you're comfortable with
01:26lyken oks
01:26lyken now to get me a new tv card and get to work on this
01:27lyken thanks for the pointers
01:27Chutt np =)
01:27dopester I got the QSqlQuery stuff taken care of.. now just the locks
01:30Chutt cool
01:30Chutt i noticed one place you've got a return query.result(0)afbalba
01:30Chutt or whatnot
01:30Chutt you need to let go of the lock _after_ all use of the query's done, though
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01:30Chutt so you can't return like that unless you use an automutex
01:31Chutt one of hirobumi shimada's patches touched settings.h, so i'm putting in your other patch at the same time
01:31Chutt less recompiling =)
01:31dopester :)
01:32dopester Ahh yes the infamous GetDVBTID function.. that thing is so damn hairy anyway.. I'll copy it to an int and return taht value instea of the return Query.whatever
01:32dopester its really hard to write something generalized for DVB, ATSC and deal with all the broken crap every network seems to do
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01:34dopester chutt: was the lack of locking just in siscan or was it elsewhere?
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01:37Chutt not quite sure
01:37Chutt i just looked through there, and did a search for the others
01:40dopester k np
01:41dopester i'll finish it up tomorrow i am getting to tired to do the rest and test it tonight
01:41Chutt that's cool.
01:41dopester i also emailed john and jesper.. siscan is mess anyway..
01:41Chutt you've got until the weekend :p
01:41dopester or until you set your air2pc :)
01:42dopester i do plan on making siscan about 50% as big once i get rid of my notes in there
01:43dopester i think you found an issue nagging me with the returing of that query toint btw :)
01:43Chutt heh
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01:47Chutt i'm so funny!
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01:47Chutt heh
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01:48lyken heh
01:49dopester heh
01:53dopester Chutt: GenerateNewChanID is called only when the lock is already enabled.. It ok to leave it alone?
01:54Chutt yup
01:55Chutt put a comment there or something that says that, though
01:55Chutt something like // must be called with lock held
01:56dopester k np
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02:15BlurredWeasel| are there any issues upgrading mythtv from .15 to .16 (gentoo) beyond just doing the emerge mythtv (and modules I have)?
02:16riksta topic
02:16BlurredWeasel| shoot
02:16BlurredWeasel| sorry
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02:33Chutt TOTAL Max: 12.24 Mbits/s Avg: 2.11 Mbits/s Cur: 1.88 Mbits/s
02:33Chutt not bad
02:35Chutt did almost 60GB worth of traffic yesterday
02:36stoffel good morning
02:36stoffel Chutt: did you see my comment about mythvideo's compile failure with --enable-exif?
02:36Chutt nope
02:37Chutt mythgallery, though?
02:37stoffel err, right
02:38stoffel 14:02 stoffel > anyone here familiar with the mythgallery code? it doesn't compile on debian unstable configured
02:38stoffel with --enable-exif. the exif_entry_get_value function seems to have changed
02:39stoffel in the eif library that is, it now expects 3 arguments but gallery only calls it with one
02:39Chutt ah
02:39Chutt crap
02:39Chutt hrm
02:40stoffel exiftags, libexif10 and the libexif-dev package should suffice, right?
02:40Chutt yeah
02:40riksta just read that NY Times article
02:41riksta pretty kool to get on there :)
02:41Chutt happen to know if libexif has a version number define?
02:41riksta albeit for the wrong reasons :)
02:42stoffel sorry, no. what should i be looking for?
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02:43Chutt they don't have a version number in their headers
02:43Chutt how lame.
02:44stoffel sorry, i gotta do some payed work now. bbl
02:47Chutt well, hmm
02:47Chutt running pkg-config --modversion libexif
02:47Chutt works, but, i don't know when the api changed.
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02:50Chutt stoffel, if you can find out when (what version) the api changed, i'll fix it up to compile with both.
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02:51stoffel ok. do you still plan to release 0.17 next weekend?
02:54Chutt yup
02:54Chutt unless something big comes up and requires more time to fix
02:54Chutt or work requires more of my time than it should
02:55stoffel ok
02:57Dibblah Diff for /libexif/libexif/libexif/exif-entry.c between version 1.42 and 1.43 contains the change.
02:57Dibblah ie 1 year, 3 weeks ago.
02:58stoffel and nobody noticed it yet? wow
02:58Dibblah "To make the library thread safe"
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03:01Dibblah ... I'm probably completely wrong, but isn't exif_find_record a bit more "public" code?
03:02stoffel i have no idea, i'm not a prgrammer. i just tried to compile it with exif support yesterday.
03:02stoffel but thanks for fixing mythgallery Dibblah ;)
03:03Dibblah Eh? I didn't do nothing?
03:04stoffel not yet :)
03:08Dibblah I'm just doing this because I'm not good enough to do real, functional patches, yet. So I'll do the easy stuff.
03:10Dibblah Something broken on the Myth web CVS viewer?
03:11Dibblah While viewing
03:11Chutt branch stuff's slightly broken
03:11Chutt i'm too lazy to fix it :p
03:11Dibblah ... But we don't care because we don't need no steenking branches :)
03:11Chutt but since i don't use branches, i don't really care
03:12Chutt exactly! =)
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03:15Dibblah Okay. The change hit others as well. It's any version 0.6.9+
03:17Octane nice to see that fucker who posted his link to that freeipod crap gone
03:18riksta fucker?! he was giving us free ipods man!!!!
03:18Beirdo free is good :)
03:18riksta i was being sarcastic
03:18Beirdo ah crap, I'd better charge my not-free iPod
03:19riksta i want a mini
03:19Beirdo not enough storage :)
03:19riksta i know
03:19Octane lol riksta
03:19riksta bah gotta get ready 4 uni
03:20Chutt o_cee,
03:22Octane i wonder how may people clicked his freeipod link
03:22Octane i hope he doesnt get one now
03:22Chutt he's still _receiving_ mail from the list
03:22Chutt he's just moderated
03:22riksta like anyone actually gets them anyway
03:22Chutt and can't unsubscribe/resubscribe, since his address is banned
03:23Octane lol!
03:23Beirdo I think some people do get them, but what a dumb thing to put on a mailing list
03:25Chutt actually, i think i banned his domain
03:25Chutt but, whatever
03:25Chutt i've had enough of people selling crap or otherwise using my list for personal gain
03:25Octane yah cuz he actually created a myth-specific user
03:25Beirdo yeah, I'm not surprised, Chutt
03:26riksta what about people that sell mythtv boxes?
03:26riksta :D
03:26Chutt not without asking me first.
03:26Chutt ah well
03:26Chutt bed time, since i checked in that tool for o_cee, and fixed seeking in wma files
03:26riksta they don't have to ask do they?
03:27Chutt what?
03:27Chutt people selling stuff?
03:27Chutt yes, they do
03:27Chutt and the answer is 'no'.
03:27Octane Chutt, i know you get throngs of people everyday harassing you and showering you with compliments, but i figure its my turn to say something: its amazing how you have "kept it real" with mythtv even with all the attention and popularity it has gotten
03:27Beirdo good night Chutt. :) tis bedtime
03:27Chutt thanks =)
03:27riksta Chutt: i thought under gpl they can, aslong as they contribute anything upstream
03:27Chutt oh, they're allowed to sell them, sure
03:27Chutt they just better not use my mailing lists to advertise them
03:27riksta ahh yeah i get ya
03:28levon hehe
03:28Octane and so, i remind you once again Chutt, my Ode to MythTV:
03:28Chutt heh
03:31riksta where is the iambic pentameter
03:32Octane shakespeare stole it from me
03:33riksta did you know an iamb is a metric foot
03:34Octane no i was not aware. thank you!
03:34riksta haha i am a goldmine
03:34riksta right im off
03:34Beirdo I should put my iamb up the arse of a few users on -users some day then
03:39levon lol
03:39levon what the hell is a metric foot
03:39* Beirdo shrugs
03:39Beirdo never heard of it before
03:39riksta unit of measurement
03:40riksta 12 inches in a foot
03:40levon an inch doesn't sound very metric to me ;)
03:40riksta err
03:40riksta doh
03:40Beirdo must be the "new metric"
03:40riksta sorry
03:40riksta thats imperial
03:41levon ;)
03:42riksta gotta dash now
03:42Beirdo bedtime here
03:42levon happy dashing, happy napping to you folks
03:42Beirdo well, a few hours after bedtime, but what's new :)
03:42levon hehe, yeah, pulled two all nighters last week myself too
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04:41johnnyST is down?
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04:43pjz_ anyone awake?
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04:50Dibblah /.ed
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05:47k-man i get this error since i upgraded to the latest cvs...
05:47k-man 2005-01-31 09:26:38.498 DVB#0 ERROR - No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup.
05:47k-man any idea why i get this?
05:47k-man and how i can fix it?
05:47k-man i have tried to see whats wrong with my channel setup but it all looks fine
05:48Dibblah This is really a -users question, but since it involves CVS at the moment, I'll bite.
05:48Dibblah The DVB stuff in CVS has been ripped out and redone. It now automatically finds the channels / transponders.
05:49Dibblah Redo mythsetup, go to the channel editor, click on the new button at the bottom of the screen.
05:50Dibblah You'll need some "seed" transponder information - You can get this from the output of dvbscan.
05:51k-man Dibblah, oh... ok, so i should just delete all the old channel stuff?
05:51Dibblah Potentially, yes.
05:51Dibblah However...
05:51k-man dvbscan? where can i find that?
05:52Dibblah As always, back up your database first.
05:52k-man ok, thanks
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06:09CanadaBoy k
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09:16thor_ GreyFoxx, thanks, got it, will send along
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09:26Beirdo thor_: I'll send mine along later today after I have another chance to proofread it after my edits :)
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10:06thor_ Beirdo, cool, thanks
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10:48levon I don't know much about myth's architecture but I'd like to add another type of feed to the backend
10:48levon up to this point one can use dvb or v4l
10:48levon I guess (since myth is OO), that this is well abstracted
10:48levon so theoretically one could add another type of feed (let's say foo)
10:49levon the foo feed will obtain a dvb stream as the dvb and v4l feeds
10:49levon that should be doable, shouldn't it?
10:49levon so that the whole myth functionality would be available to just another type of input
10:49levon is that assumption correct?
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10:56* laga hopes so
11:01* levon too
11:01* laga ubertoo
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11:47Tommck I noticed that now there is support for handling --dd-file on the command line of mythfilldatabase. I had just added support for "--dd-custom-get" in my code that launches a custom script to get the DataDirect listings. Do you think the new --dd-file option removes the potential for my fix to go in too?
11:52rkulagow__ chutt: here?
11:54Anduin Tommck - not that it counts, by why not redefine your script in terms of --dd-file?
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11:54Tommck that's definitely possible.
11:54Tommck and not a big deal.
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11:54Tommck the problem is... I need to SOAP envelope
11:55Tommck to=the
11:55Tommck I don't want to have to generate it myself... and then have the format change
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11:55Tommck make sense Anduin?
11:57Anduin Tommck - yeah, that makes some sense
11:58Tommck that's why I wanted to embed it in the app
12:10Tommck I guess I'll try to submit it and see what happens
12:10Tommck is there a program I can run to make sure I didn't insert any tabs in the source code?
12:11mikegrb yes, grep
12:11Anduin Tommck - I use carefully (and not so) placed .vimrc files (or equiv) and when I make a patch I also look at it and /\t
12:13Tommck ahh.. right
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12:17Tommck we think 0.17 will be out this weekend?
12:18Anduin That is the plan.
12:19Tommck cool
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13:04Chutt new tv tuner card shipped
13:04Tommck which kind?
13:04Chutt dopester,
13:04Chutt air2pc
13:04Tommck cool.
13:04Tommck kinda makes me wish I didn't get 2 pcHDTV cards with the stuff I've been reading about those cards
13:04gr8nash chutt you going to use qam cable stuff or OTA?
13:05Chutt cable.
13:05Chutt i can't get ota
13:05gr8nash =(
13:05gr8nash do you have to pay for basic cable to use the cable .. dont they filter it otherwise?
13:06Chutt i pay for digital cable, and i have an hd cable box.
13:06gr8nash ok that makes sense
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13:14thor_ I pay only for basic cable, and local HD channels come in QAM unencrypted
13:14thor_ (along with what I think is neighbors pay-per-view
13:14thor_ )
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13:21Snow-Man thor_: haha
13:24Beirdo Heya, Snow-Man :)
13:24Beirdo saw your name fly by in my console the other day when I rebooted a server :)
13:24Snow-Man :)
13:24Beirdo something iptables-related, I think
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13:26Beirdo always interesting to see recognizable names in different places like that :)
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13:29Snow-Man Beirdo: ipt_recent, netfilter module I wrote
13:29Beirdo that would be it :)
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13:30Beirdo it flew by fast enough for me to register it mentally, but that was about it :)
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15:00GeckoFiend chutt around?
15:00Chutt yup
15:00Chutt how goes?
15:00Chutt haven't seen you in a while =)
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15:01GeckoFiend heh been a rough start to a new year / end of year.
15:01GeckoFiend just starting to get my steam back and get moving again.
15:02Beirdo Tis good to see you again ;)
15:02GeckoFiend yeah I should be around quite a bit more now. Gonna try and get the release notes ready.
15:02Chutt ah, cool
15:02Chutt been meaning to email and ask if you remembered where you stopped
15:03Chutt but if you do it, all the better =)
15:03Chutt saw your slashdot comments, too =)
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15:14GeckoFiend hehe yeah I hate the /. tards sometimes
15:14Beirdo and the rest of the time you are ignoring /.?
15:15GeckoFiend heh pretty much
15:26GeckoFiend be back in a few hours. Pesky client needs me
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16:59o_cee Chutt, i need to manually merge the files from the different themes afterwards?
16:59Chutt well, theoretically, all the themes should have identical text.
17:00o_cee heh yeah but they don't :) some have : at the end of a string, some don't
17:00Chutt ah
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17:08o_cee ill as hell, been sleeping all day, heh
17:09o_cee ThemeUI::tr("%SUBTITLE|\"|\"%");
17:09o_cee i'll rip stuff like that out right?
17:13Chutt yup
17:13Chutt i think the current ones all have that removed
17:13o_cee yeah.
17:13o_cee no point translating them
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17:16Chutt it'd break if you translated them =)
17:17o_cee hehe yeah :) wasn't really that many differences between the files
17:17o_cee almost done merging them
17:17Chutt cool.
17:17Chutt sorry i took so long getting that in
17:17o_cee there's themes/default/status-ui.xml as well, do you know any more?
17:17Chutt not sure
17:17o_cee don't think so
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17:18o_cee heh, meld is pretty cool for diffing files
17:18Chutt there, got my work done for the day
17:19o_cee yey
17:19Baylink Hey, Chutt. Couple minor suggestions on language. Should I make them as patches/do I have time to make them as patches/are they already fixed? ;-)
17:19Chutt heh
17:19Chutt well, see, thing is, if we change the english version at this stage, it'll bust all the other translations
17:19Baylink Hmmm...
17:19Chutt do you mind if you wait until after 0.17?
17:20Baylink Well, since they're new functionality in .17, and they're misdescribed...
17:20Baylink Time stretch, notably.
17:20Chutt heh
17:20Chutt i just don't want to break translations a week before release :(
17:21Baylink And something to do with searching, which my sis will have to remind me of. Well, I don't speak the other languages, but I don't know that they're *broken* in the other languages, either. They're idiomatic.
17:21Chutt no no
17:22Chutt if the english text changes, any translation has to be updated, since the stuff that chooses which string to use is based on the english text
17:22Baylink On the *literal* english text?
17:22Chutt yeah
17:22Baylink Not message numbers, then, like gettext does it?
17:22Chutt right
17:22Baylink Crapdamnhell
17:23Chutt it _could_ be used that way
17:23Chutt but we're not doing it like that
17:23Baylink Recommend so for future releases. (For obvious reasons. :-)
17:23Chutt it'd be very time consuming
17:24Chutt essentially taking out all english text and treating it as just another translation
17:25Baylink Yep.
17:26Chutt Alioth:~/mythtv# grep -r tr\(\" * | wc -l
17:26Chutt 5723
17:26Chutt that's a lot of work :p
17:26Baylink In any event (:-) calling something time-stretch, when turning it *up* makes it go *faster*, not real intuitive.
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17:29Chutt heh
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17:30erik hey, is there a list of "upcoming stuff in 0.17"?
17:30Chutt not yet
17:30erik have one on the top of your head?
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17:32o_cee Chutt, should i include all the *-ui.xml files from titivillus as well? like music-ui.xml? or are they treated someplace else already?
17:33o_cee yeah there's a themestrings.h in mythmusic/i18n
17:33Anduin is anyone else seeing the cvs server being very slow?
17:33o_cee wich was pretty empty
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17:34michael_ which "card type" is an avermedia m179?...MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-250, PVR-350)?
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17:35Anduin michael_ - ask in #mythtv-users
17:35Chutt anduin, the mailing list is slowing the entire box down.
17:35Chutt o_cee, yeah, each plugin should have its own
17:35michael_ Anduin, tnx just saw that up there..
17:35Chutt so, don't process titivillus :p
17:36o_cee nah, but it seems mythmusic needs updating.. problem is if a theme decides to change some text..
17:36Chutt right
17:36Chutt if they do, they don't get translated
17:36Chutt so i'd just handle the blue/default stuff
17:37o_cee yep. we'll see how this works out, updating it now
17:38erik has mythmusic seen an interface overhaul in the last while?
17:38Chutt nope
17:38erik :(
17:39Chutt i like the interface
17:39Chutt the people that don't haven't done anything to improve it, so it'll likely be staying as is.
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17:56Baylink erik: notes from various people about many thing in .16+cvs live at, one of the un-official wikis.
17:56Baylink (things, even)
17:56Dibblah Hmm. Any complaints of people getting stuck with VERBOSE(VB_AUDIO, "Waiting for free space") reports?
17:57Chutt nope
17:57Dibblah Okay. More reading as to how pthread_cond_wait works, then :)
17:58Dibblah Oh. Releases the mutex. Okay.
17:58Dibblah Sorry ;)
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18:01o_cee Chutt, all updated :)
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18:04dopester chutt: yeah i saw the dvb drivesr for the hd3000.. probbbaly no point in merging with Daniels code now..
18:04dopester thats assuming it works
18:04dopester unless people must have analog tv with it..
18:05dopester chutt: john finished up the lock/QSqlQuery stuff.. i'll give you a patch later tonight.. i gotta run out for a while..
18:07o_cee at least there hasn't been any complaints on mythfilldatabase breakage :)
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18:09Chutt ok
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19:04dopester the guy who did the HD3000 driver has a almost complete HD2000 driver hes gonna send me.. said his 2k died before he could finish it..
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19:21dopester thor_: let me know about your PSIP data now.. the mandate is in effect now..
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19:44GeckoFiend hrm: streaminput.cpp: In member function `void StreamInput::readyread()':
19:44GeckoFiend streaminput.cpp:103: warning: cannot pass objects of non-POD type `class
19:44GeckoFiend QCString' through `...'; call will abort at runtime
19:44GeckoFiend streaminput.cpp:103: warning: format argument is not a pointer (arg 2)
19:46GeckoFiend hrm checking to see if I mised some files since MM didn;t compile at all
19:49GeckoFiend looks like I had a bad checkout
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20:34Chutt heh, mailing list finally made it through the queue
20:36Beirdo nice.
20:37Beirdo So my experiment with HDTV has paid off. With a real cheap crappy antenna, I can receive all of the Buffalo HDTV stations. right across the lake :)
20:39dopester maybe chutt can get cbc and citytv for you :)
20:40Beirdo heheh
20:40Beirdo Cleveland area? might have a hard time receiving off the CN Tower from there
20:40dopester never know.. water can work magic
20:41Beirdo especially with CityTV on a directional pointing north, and low power ;)
20:41dopester oh well.. one can dream
20:43Beirdo yeah well
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21:07GeckoFiend I think I need to climb up on my roof with a compass. I get enough signal to kinda view somethign with xine but not enough for myth to lock on to
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21:11dopester geckofiend: what card are you using?
21:11dopester and what kind of antenna?
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21:13GeckoFiend HDTV3000 and Some old antenna on my roof. I probably should look into a good one once the weather gets nicer
21:14dopester i got 2 of the uhf yagis that radio shack sells for 24 bucks a piece and stacked em.. work like a champ.. im about 20mi from both sets of transmitters here
21:15GeckoFiend heh I'm at least 45m
21:16dopester id get some of teh channel master high gain yagis then
21:17dopester none of the demods you can get in a pci card like multipath much
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21:57Tommck I was just about to submit a patch and i noticed, in the mythtc-commits digest, that someone changed the filldata.cpp file, which is one of the same files I was changing. Is this an issue? Should I be re-getting the code again and remaking the patch?
21:58dopester chutt: i got that patch ready..
21:59cmorgan Tommck: yes. you shold resubmit based upon the latest version in cvs
21:59Tommck man.. hope nobody else modifies that file in the mean time :)
21:59Chutt dopester, gotta lock before the query's created.
21:59Chutt +printf("Finished this poop\n");
21:59Chutt heh
21:59dopester oops :)
22:00dopester k try number 2 :)
22:00Chutt later, though
22:00Chutt gotta go do stuff
22:00dopester np
22:03Beirdo heh
22:05dopester thats my favorite line :)
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22:13dopester chutt: same url.. think that did it.. just looked over it again.. its poop free this time.. :)
22:20Tommck I want to make sure I'm doing this right... I modified 3 files (datadirect.h, datadirect.cpp, filldata.cpp) and I issued this command to do the diff: "cvs diff -u libs/libmythtv/datadirect.h libs/libmythtv/datadirect.cpp programs/mythfilldatabase/filldata.cpp > diff.txt
22:20Tommck "
22:20Tommck will that give me what I want to send in? :)
22:20* Tommck feels like such a n00b :)
22:22Tommck Anyone? Bueller?
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22:24Tommck stoffel - lemme ask you, since nobody else is here... (repost coming)
22:24Tommck I want to make sure I'm doing this right... I modified 3 files (datadirect.h, datadirect.cpp, filldata.cpp) and I issued this command to do the diff: "cvs diff -u libs/libmythtv/datadirect.h libs/libmythtv/datadirect.cpp programs/mythfilldatabase/filldata.cpp > diff.txt "
22:24Tommck will that give me the correct diff to email in to the dev list?
22:26Anduin yes, though I sometimes leave off the specific files just to make sure I didn't touch something else as a check first.
22:26Tommck ok.. I see
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22:27Tommck is 163 lines too big of a patch file to attach?
22:30Anduin no (at least not historically)
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22:30Tommck cool... I guess I'll bzip2 it before I attach it.
22:30dopester i should have posted the "bigass dvb patch" on the list.. that would have been close to the record i bet
22:31Tommck :)
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