| --- | Log | opened Mon Feb 07 00:00:40 2005 |
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| 00:20 | rkulagow_ | captain_murdoch: yep. |
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| 00:30 | Captain_Murdo | | I was going to ask about that dbcheck.cpp change, but couldn't find where the jumppoint table was populated so I wasn't sure if libmythtv/dbcheck.cpp was the right place or not for the change you were talking about. |
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| 00:31 | Chutt | to update old stuff |
| 00:31 | Chutt | can't change it anywhere else, unfortunately |
| 00:31 | Chutt | if you want to make that change, that'd be great =) |
| 00:32 | Chutt | i'm pushing the release back a few days, btw |
| 00:32 | Captain_Murdo | | sure, I'll do it now. just updating the description right? |
| 00:32 | Chutt | i'm too sleepy to do it now, anyway |
| 00:32 | Chutt | yeah |
| 00:33 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, saw the post. I think it's a good idea also. Quite a bit of new stuff has gone in over the past 2 weeks. |
| 00:34 | Beirdo | So aiming for Wednesday or so? |
| 00:34 | Captain_Murdo | | putting current CVS on my production setup now so I can burn it in for the few days to see if we notice anything. |
| 00:34 | Chutt | i'm going to fix the long blue screen before playback |
| 00:34 | Chutt | (not difficult) |
| 00:34 | Beirdo | ah nice. |
| 00:35 | Captain_Murdo | | I was wondering how much of that is related to loading the positionmap. I've thought about looking into trying to load the majority of that after playback starts. |
| 00:36 | Chutt | it'd be cool to speed that all up |
| 00:36 | Chutt | and not hard to profile |
| 00:45 | mdz | someone just emailed me asking for 0.17 debs |
| 00:45 | Chutt | ask them for the source |
| 00:45 | Captain_Murdo | | tell them because they asked, they have to wait 3 days now. |
| 00:45 | GreyFoxx | hahaha |
| 00:45 | Captain_Murdo | | and if they ask again.... :) |
| 00:45 | mdz | that must be a record, 3 days before the release |
| 00:45 | Chutt | well, it was _supposed_ to be tonight |
| 00:47 | mdz | Captain_Murdoch: good idea; I should load CVS on my box as well |
| 00:48 | Chutt | please do |
| 00:48 | Chutt | test stuff |
| 00:49 | mdz | it has been a while, you must have a lot of changes in |
| 00:50 | wswanson | a ton of changes over the last couple of days ; great stuff ; so far, no problems here with tonights CVS |
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| 00:53 | xris | so isn't it almost past sunday night for Chutt now? |
| 00:53 | Chutt | bah |
| 00:53 | Chutt | read your email :p |
| 00:53 | xris | ahh, I see the news |
| 00:53 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, dbcheck mod made for the Weather description. |
| 00:54 | xris | gives me more time to put stuff into mythweb, I guess. heh. |
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| 01:00 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:00 | Chutt | guess it's time for bed |
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| 01:05 | xris | Chutt: been meaning to ask you.. you have any issues with giving Beirdo cvs access (mostly for nuvexport)? |
| 01:06 | Chutt | nope, no problem with that |
| 01:06 | xris | cool. Beirdo, your call. |
| 01:06 | Chutt | next weekend |
| 01:06 | Beirdo | I'll be here then. Sounds good |
| 01:07 | xris | that's fine |
| 01:07 | xris | just figured I'd ask before I forgot again |
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| 01:08 | Chutt | g'night =) |
| 01:08 | xris | 'night |
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| 01:09 | Beirdo | night. |
| 01:09 | Beirdo | I should go to bed too. |
| 01:12 | huhlig- | grr |
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| 01:12 | huhlig- | me has found a bug or three in the latest mythburn |
| 01:13 | Beirdo | is that even an official plugin? |
| 01:13 | huhlig- | dont think so |
| 01:13 | huhlig- | it would be nice if there was one |
| 01:14 | huhlig- | that was official |
| 01:14 | Beirdo | then you won't get much help here. |
| 01:14 | huhlig- | ahh |
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| 06:35 | Geckofiend | Chutt FWIW I've kept my main frontend up to date with CVS and haven't had any issues, though it's a pretty generic PVR250 machine using nvidia on std def |
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| 10:06 | _rkulagow_ | chutt: here? |
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| 10:10 | thor__ | Chutt, was busy again for a couple of days there ... anything easy loose ends you'd like me to look at before Wed/Thu. ? |
| 10:10 | thor__ | err, any easy |
| 10:12 | _rkulagow_ | well, i saw a few warning type fixes in commits earlier. not sure if he's still fixing little BS stuff like that. |
| 10:12 | _rkulagow_ | audiooutputarts.cpp: In member function `virtual int AudioOutputARTS::GetVolumeChannel(int)': |
| 10:12 | _rkulagow_ | audiooutputarts.cpp:99: warning: unused parameter `int channel' |
| 10:12 | _rkulagow_ | audiooutputarts.cpp: In member function `virtual void AudioOutputARTS::SetVolumeChannel(int, int)': |
| 10:12 | _rkulagow_ | audiooutputarts.cpp:104: warning: unused parameter `int channel' |
| 10:12 | _rkulagow_ | audiooutputarts.cpp:104: warning: unused parameter `int volume' |
| 10:13 | thor__ | ah, very good I'll have a look ... with any luck, I can get the new audio code to work only through one channel |
| 10:13 | thor__ | :-) |
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| 10:23 | thor__ | _rkulagow_, that only happen with native ARTS support on? |
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| 10:26 | _rkulagow_ | could be. let me check |
| 10:27 | _rkulagow_ | yep. OSS and ARTS is on, the rest are off. |
| 10:28 | thor__ | cool, thanks |
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| 10:39 | Delemas | I'm trying to understand Chutt's explaination of why strange focus issues occur w/ mythtv. |
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| 10:40 | Delemas | It was my understanding that playback of recorded shows was handled by mythtv and not by an external program. Is this incorrect? |
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| 10:42 | thor__ | yes (and wrong channel) |
| 10:43 | bline | hey thor |
| 10:43 | thor__ | hey |
| 10:43 | bline | how's your mfd coming along? |
| 10:43 | thor__ | slowly |
| 10:44 | thor__ | :-) |
| 10:44 | bline | heh |
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| 10:44 | bline | can't believe im doing cgi work in C right now |
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| 10:45 | thor__ | still moving though; got music visualization working across network |
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| 12:59 | GeckoFiend_ | chutt around? |
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| 12:59 | Chutt | yup |
| 12:59 | Chutt | conference call, though |
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| 13:01 | GeckoFiend_ | since the release is being delayed mind if I check in the proof of concept stuff for widescreen theming? I figure it'll help theme folks get used to the scale of things, plus allow me to have some folks play with the widescreen theme I'm dinking with without having to run CVS. |
| 13:01 | Chutt | sure |
| 13:01 | GeckoFiend_ | btw: more shots up at http://www.jdonavan.net/myth/wide_mode |
| 13:01 | GeckoFiend_ | Going for a very muted minimalist look |
| 13:01 | Chutt | cool. |
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| 13:03 | GeckoFiend_ | hrm shooting for thrusday for the release now right? Maybe if I bust my ass I can get the theme done enough for folks with widescreens to reap the benefits by then |
| 13:04 | Chutt | dunno |
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| 13:20 | thor__ | hmmm ... cvs mythmusic has got compile errors in metaiomp4.cpp |
| 13:21 | Chutt | yeah |
| 13:21 | thor__ | lemme poke at it |
| 13:21 | Chutt | should be simple |
| 13:21 | thor__ | hmmm ... logic of album artist ... |
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| 13:53 | _rkulagow_ | yay. got my air2pc card today |
| 13:53 | Chutt | mine's still sitting on my desk |
| 13:54 | _rkulagow_ | do i understand correctly that when i get the card i'll be able to capture unencrypted SDTV and unencrypted HDTV as well? (once i have the QAM stuff installed?) |
| 13:55 | Chutt | something like that |
| 13:55 | _rkulagow_ | and now someone is putting out a bounty on PVR USB2 code for mythtv. |
| 13:55 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:58 | Beirdo | hhehe |
| 13:58 | Beirdo | how much of a bounty? |
| 14:00 | mikegrb | $5 |
| 14:01 | laga | isaac said it shouldn't be hard |
| 14:03 | Beirdo | Chutt: you don't want group info on freenode? |
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| 14:14 | _rkulagow_ | $75 to either buy a pvr for yourself, or you can have the one the guy has now. "[mythtv] WinTV PVRUSB2 support/reward?" on -dev |
| 14:14 | _rkulagow_ | hell, you can borrow mine. |
| 14:14 | Beirdo | Hmm |
| 14:14 | | * Beirdo considers how much spare time he doesn't have |
| 14:14 | | * mikegrb borrows _rkulagow_ |
| 14:15 | Beirdo | I'll think about it |
| 14:22 | thor__ | rkulagow, anything that's QAM, which is mostly just HDTV |
| 14:23 | thor__ | at least on my cable |
| 14:23 | _rkulagow_ | thor: thanks |
| 14:23 | thor__ | (well, plus random PPV) |
| 14:23 | Chutt | beirdo, hmm? |
| 14:24 | Beirdo | -lilo/Wallops- Group contact request for mythtv will be cancelled at the request of lead developer |
| 14:24 | Chutt | hah |
| 14:24 | Chutt | i told them that o_cee could act as the contact |
| 14:24 | Chutt | apparently that's not good enough, though |
| 14:25 | Beirdo | guess not |
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| 14:28 | Chutt | o_cee can take it up with him later, i guess |
| 14:29 | Beirdo | you sure that they don't want to just verify with you over the phone? I think that's how they work |
| 14:29 | Chutt | that's what they want to do |
| 14:29 | Chutt | i said 'no' |
| 14:29 | Chutt | i don't want that idiot calling me |
| 14:30 | Beirdo | heh. Fair enough. :) |
| 14:30 | Chutt | and i said that o_cee could act as the 'official' contact for the project |
| 14:31 | Beirdo | Ah well, we can live without it anyways |
| 14:31 | Chutt | but, apparently this network's run on mistrust of its users |
| 14:31 | Beirdo | can you blame them? there are a lot of real assholes on IRC :) |
| 14:32 | Chutt | right, but how is having an irc user put in some info and a phone number any different? |
| 14:32 | Beirdo | Good point |
| 14:32 | Chutt | i don't see how that's any more secure than irc |
| 14:32 | Beirdo | I think they may have gotten your contact info from whois? |
| 14:32 | Chutt | right |
| 14:32 | Chutt | but again, how's that secure? |
| 14:33 | Beirdo | true. More secure than absolutely nothing |
| 14:33 | Chutt | if you guys want it set up, tell them that o_cee's the guy to talk to. |
| 14:33 | Chutt | and to stop annoying me |
| 14:33 | Beirdo | We'll see what we can do. |
| 14:34 | Chutt | he's got cvs access and all, i don't see why they need _my_ permission |
| 14:36 | _rkulagow_ | that's stupid. why do i need to be a list member to read the v4l archives? |
| 14:36 | Chutt | heh |
| 14:36 | Chutt | redhat's archives? |
| 14:36 | _rkulagow_ | yep |
| 14:37 | Chutt | i thought those were open.. |
| 14:37 | _rkulagow_ | doesn't seem to be: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/video4linux-list/ |
| 14:37 | _rkulagow_ | " (The current archive is only available to the list members.)" |
| 14:37 | Chutt | ah |
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| 14:57 | Chutt | thor, ah, cool, you fixed the metadata editor crashing too |
| 14:57 | Chutt | thanks =) |
| 14:58 | thor__ | yup |
| 14:58 | Chutt | so, how's the vis over network work? |
| 15:00 | thor__ | whole lotta binary data over a socket |
| 15:00 | thor__ | :-) |
| 15:00 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:01 | thor__ | just finishing up letting the client control hoe much |
| 15:01 | thor__ | err, how |
| 15:01 | Chutt | it's in sync and stuff? |
| 15:01 | thor__ | it's just taking the PCM data, adding a minimal amount of info (essentially Content-Length), and pumping it out |
| 15:02 | thor__ | works fine on 100MBit |
| 15:02 | thor__ | haven't even thought about trying anything else |
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| 15:11 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:11 | Chutt | just did a quick interview with cnet |
| 15:11 | Chutt | answering the same questions over and over is annoying, though |
| 15:11 | Chutt | i should put it all on a page on the website |
| 15:11 | Beirdo | I'd imagine so |
| 15:13 | jwhite | don't worry, they won't read it anyways |
| 15:13 | _rkulagow_ | a radio station from cleveland want to interview me or isaac. |
| 15:13 | Chutt | yeah, i ignored them |
| 15:14 | Chutt | one of the local tv news stations, too |
| 15:14 | Beirdo | if you guys do do a radio interview, I wanna listen to it :) |
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| 15:14 | Chutt | i turned down another radio interview, since they wanted the story to be like the NYTs |
| 15:15 | Beirdo | yeah |
| 15:16 | Beirdo | nothing like some more bad press. |
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| 15:46 | Dibblah | Any feelings on exporting mythtv-setup? |
| 15:46 | Chutt | i don't care either way |
| 15:48 | Dibblah | Patch against current CVS in -dev. |
| 15:48 | Chutt | right |
| 15:48 | Chutt | i'll probably apply it |
| 15:48 | Dibblah | It's probably wrong - But you knew that by now ;) |
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| 16:00 | o_cee | anyone actually using 2,0 time stretch speed in the osd menu? i like 1,2 - 1,3, thinking about changing the menu a little to imo more usable stuff |
| 16:00 | o_cee | alternatives |
| 16:01 | Chutt | i use the menu, then adjust it, generally |
| 16:01 | Chutt | it'd make sense to have more slower fast speeds, though, and not 2.0 |
| 16:01 | o_cee | yeah, me too, but we might as well add some more useable alternatives i think |
| 16:01 | laga | the timestretch feature is fun ;) |
| 16:01 | Anduin | o_cee - I've yet to find anything useful at 2.0 |
| 16:01 | o_cee | 1,3 is ok i think |
| 16:01 | | * Dibblah will get round to cusomisable sticky ffwd speeds... |
| 16:01 | o_cee | and 1,2 |
| 16:01 | Dibblah | Sometime. |
| 16:01 | Chutt | 1.1 |
| 16:01 | Anduin | o_cee - 1.4 sounds normal to me for most things now |
| 16:02 | o_cee | yeah, i think 1,1-1,4 should be in the menu |
| 16:02 | Chutt | ok, and trash 2.0? |
| 16:02 | Chutt | feel free to check that in |
| 16:02 | Anduin | o_cee - though with the new patches 1.5 doesn't sound too bad |
| 16:02 | o_cee | yeah, don't see the need for that |
| 16:02 | o_cee | okay, 1,1-1,5 then ;) |
| 16:02 | Chutt | what about slower? |
| 16:02 | o_cee | who uses <1,0 speeds anyway? |
| 16:02 | Chutt | i dunno |
| 16:02 | laga | 0.5 doesn't sound well, the audio is a bit stuttering. but i'm running cvs from a few days ago, so this might be fixed... |
| 16:03 | Chutt | might as well keep a couple, though |
| 16:03 | Anduin | o_cee - I think you need to keep that in. |
| 16:03 | o_cee | lets see how many there are |
| 16:03 | Chutt | crazy europeans and their , instead of . |
| 16:03 | o_cee | hehe sorry :P |
| 16:03 | Beirdo | heh |
| 16:03 | Chutt | haha, no worries :p |
| 16:03 | Beirdo | once again, North America is the oddball :) |
| 16:04 | Beirdo | but we like being oddballs |
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| 16:05 | Chutt | sweet! |
| 16:05 | Chutt | my 5:30 conference call just got cancelled |
| 16:05 | o_cee | 0,5 and 0,9, guess i could remove 0,5 |
| 16:05 | o_cee | :) |
| 16:05 | Chutt | if it doesn't sound right, kill it |
| 16:05 | Anduin | o_cee - you are breaking the learning machine |
| 16:05 | Chutt | but, maybe add a 0.7 or so |
| 16:05 | Dibblah | o_cee: I wouldn't kill 0.5 unless it's unusable - Foreign language learners. |
| 16:06 | Anduin | It isn't unusable at all. |
| 16:06 | Dibblah | Toast it, then :) |
| 16:06 | Anduin | No, it sounds fine for me. |
| 16:07 | o_cee | doesn't sound very good here, 0,7 seems better. you can always adjust it |
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| 16:07 | o_cee | i'll fix it a little later tonight |
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| 16:08 | Chutt | eh, keep 0.5, then |
| 16:11 | o_cee | on the comm-skip osd submenu, what alternatives are there in english? |
| 16:13 | o_cee | here it says first: "Autoskip OFF" then "Autoskip ON" |
| 16:13 | o_cee | doesn't look right to me |
| 16:14 | Chutt | ask c_m |
| 16:14 | Anduin | o_cee - AS Notify, AS Pre-Notify, AS ON |
| 16:14 | o_cee | Anduin, change the one on top |
| 16:14 | o_cee | to AS off... heh |
| 16:15 | Anduin | o_cee - yeah, that is weird |
| 16:15 | o_cee | will talk to chris about it later, time for some tv.. |
| 16:16 | Anduin | o_cee - hmm, disconcerting at first (I never use it) but it makes sense after playing. |
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| 17:13 | dopester | GeckoFiend_: there? |
| 17:16 | _rkulagow_ | OT: anyone know if there's an IRC channel for xawtv / bytesex / v4l? |
| 17:17 | _rkulagow_ | dopester: got my air2pc card today. |
| 17:44 | dopester | cool.. since we have a few days im going to be able to write up some howto stuff for setting it up |
| 17:44 | dopester | i figure its OK to only cover once you have the card azaping around since Angel Li's howto seems to cover that well enouh |
| 17:45 | dopester | if figure anything that will avoid more dumb -users questions is a good idea :) |
| 17:46 | beavis | the frontend's stupid, I've compiled without LCD support and it complains Could not connect to LCDd: connection refused |
| 17:53 | Dibblah | You have not compiled without LCD support. |
| 17:53 | Dibblah | The option to disable does not exist any more, in any meaningful sense. |
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| 18:12 | gfiend | dopester here now |
| 18:13 | --- | User: *** gfiend is now known as Geckofiend |
| 18:14 | dopester | you see what i added to the wiki for dvb? |
| 18:17 | Geckofiend | nope not yet, thanks for doing that though |
| 18:17 | dopester | np.. i dont think its a complete list so i may add more to it.. i still need to probbably make some distinction between the pchdtv and "everything else" |
| 18:20 | Geckofiend | it's a lot better than it was that's for sure |
| 18:20 | dopester | yeah i couldnt get to my website from work so i was just going from memory but its been WAY too long |
| 18:20 | Levia | how about adding a "days" option to the mythfilldatabase ? some grabbers (tv_grab_no f.ex) can't grab more than 7 days |
| 18:21 | o_cee | Levia, uhm, that's controlled in the source |
| 18:21 | o_cee | Levia, on a per grabber basis |
| 18:22 | o_cee | 0.5, 0.9, 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5.. that ok for speeds for everyone? |
| 18:22 | o_cee | i'd say 0.5 -> 0.7, but |
| 18:22 | Levia | o_cee: how? i have set up myth to use tv_grab_no but it still tries to grab more than 7 days |
| 18:23 | Levia | (using CVS from about a week ago) |
| 18:23 | laga | o_cee: sounds good |
| 18:23 | o_cee | Levia, then no-one has come forward saying how many days needs fetching for _no, checking source now |
| 18:24 | o_cee | Levia, it's on maxday 14. what does it need to be set to? |
| 18:24 | Levia | 7. i'm the maintainer :) |
| 18:24 | Levia | my source doesn't deliver more |
| 18:24 | o_cee | Levia, great, changing it right away |
| 18:24 | o_cee | Levia, pm me please |
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| 18:37 | o_cee | 2005-02-08 00:35:31.038 Changing time stretch to 0.5 |
| 18:37 | o_cee | 2005-02-08 00:35:31.652 Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost! |
| 18:37 | o_cee | anyone else seing t |
| 18:37 | o_cee | that? |
| 18:37 | o_cee | also, that "Changing time stretch.." message should be removed from the standard output i think |
| 18:40 | o_cee | 0.55 is ok, but as soon as i hit 0.5.. |
| 18:44 | Anduin | o_cee - didn't see it here |
| 18:46 | o_cee | ok |
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| 19:15 | o_cee | would anyone mind if i changed this to VB_AUDIO? |
| 19:15 | o_cee | libs/libmyth/audiooutputbase.cpp: VERBOSE(VB_GENERAL, QString("Changing time stretch to %1") |
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| 19:34 | | * Geckofiend begins to hate the program finder |
| 19:38 | dopester | its always super slow for me |
| 19:38 | Geckofiend | It works ok here, I just hate themeing the damn thing. It's the worst screen to do I think |
| 19:40 | dopester | can you completely change the layout with themes? ive never really looked into em |
| 19:40 | dopester | mythmusic really agriavtes me not being able to just have the tags and the art up without all the other things on the screen |
| 19:40 | dopester | i jsut dont know how to fix it (yet) |
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| 19:43 | Geckofiend | yeah you can eliminate a lot fo that stuff. Though it depends on how it was coded, as long as they bother to check that an item is there before attempting to use it you're ok |
| 19:43 | dopester | ahh ok |
| 19:43 | dopester | might have to do that one of these days |
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| 19:56 | Anduin | o_cee - why not VB_PLAYBACK (though seeing the last post from Chutt, maybe it is right to avoid putting stuff there) |
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| 20:22 | Geckofiend | finally done with that thing: http://www.jdonavan.net/myth/wide_mode/wide-mode6.jpg |
| 20:25 | dopester | oooo.. 720p |
| 20:27 | Geckofiend | dopester heh yep, now that I'm in HDTV land I want things to look better when people come over. |
| 20:27 | dopester | i will be soon |
| 20:27 | dopester | whats all this crap with mythgame and command line options |
| 20:27 | dopester | looks like you can put everything in a .xmamerc and just tell it the rom to load |
| 20:28 | Geckofiend | well yeah, you can. I never understood the need to put all that stuff into code myself, except for the special case roms, and they'd be best served by a simple "custom command line" setting |
| 20:29 | dopester | yeah i might have to fix that soon :) |
| 20:31 | Geckofiend | there's a guy at work who built a windows based frontend for emulators... Pretty sweet actually,, I tried to get him interested in taking on MythGame but he's such a Microsfot fanboy it's not even funny |
| 20:31 | dopester | well if i need a break from dvb/atsc i might fix it up |
| 20:31 | dopester | it can't be that hard |
| 20:31 | dopester | its just a frontend |
| 20:32 | Geckofiend | heh wait till you look at the code. some of it is fugly |
| 20:32 | dopester | nothing a re-write won't fix |
| 20:43 | dopester | good lord you weren't kidding |
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| 20:56 | cmorgan | Geckofiend: i think a lot of people that develop windows apps for a living don't realize the magnitude of oss out there |
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| 20:59 | | * Geckofiend develops windows apps for a living |
| 20:59 | | * dopester writes rotten asp crap for work |
| 21:00 | | * wseltzer defends technologists' rights in court |
| 21:01 | dopester | hello wendy :) |
| 21:01 | wseltzer | hi dopester! |
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| 21:02 | Geckofiend | heya wendy |
| 21:02 | dopester | hows your air2pc working? |
| 21:02 | wseltzer | hi Gecko |
| 21:02 | wseltzer | air2pc's working well. |
| 21:02 | wseltzer | Wish I had someplace to test the QAM support |
| 21:02 | wseltzer | that sounds like a great development |
| 21:02 | dopester | works here :) |
| 21:02 | Geckofiend | mail it to me I'll test it for ya! |
| 21:03 | dopester | well you'll save me if cablelabs comes up with some crazy lawsuit right? :) |
| 21:03 | wseltzer | I can't promise, but I'd try |
| 21:04 | dopester | well if it got too bad id just hide in canada or something :) |
| 21:04 | wseltzer | they have no First Amendment, but no broadcast flag either |
| 21:05 | Geckofiend | any word on the whole "FCC overstepped it's authority" thing? |
| 21:05 | wseltzer | Arguments will be heard in the D.C. Circuit Feb. 22. |
| 21:05 | dopester | we barely have a first ammendment anyway :) |
| 21:05 | Geckofiend | hmmm wonder if it'll be on court TV? |
| 21:06 | wseltzer | sad but true :( |
| 21:06 | wseltzer | (not the Court TV part) |
| 21:06 | dopester | ya still owe be a beer whenever im out there next :) |
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| 21:12 | wseltzer | wacky question of the day: does anyone know if I can override the "English" text in just a few places? |
| 21:19 | jasonb | wseltzer: You want to change Tomcat's messages? Which ones? |
| 21:19 | Geckofiend | depends on where it is |
| 21:19 | jasonb | oops... wrong channel . heh! |
| 21:20 | wseltzer | I've re-mapped some of the ID3 tags and wanted to tell mythmusic that "title" is "performers" |
| 21:25 | Geckofiend | thor might be able to help there but I imagine you'd have to patch MythMusic |
| 21:26 | dopester | wonder if you could make up a new language that only translates those strings? (im just talkin out my ass so i could be completely off base) |
| 21:27 | Geckofiend | you could, but that'd be almost as much hassle as just doing a find/replace and recompile I think. |
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| 21:29 | wseltzer | dopester - that's why I was wondering if a new "translation" could override just a few strings |
| 21:30 | wseltzer | I suppose I'll ask on-list and see if anyone has done anything similar |
| 21:31 | Geckofiend | hmmm wonder if I could implement a "jive" translation? |
| 21:32 | wseltzer | pig latin, anyone? |
| 21:32 | dopester | someone did an aussie one as a jooke didn't they? |
| 21:35 | rkulagow_ | dopester: i'm about to compile 2.6.10 + dvb stuff from linuxtv.org. where's the secret sauce for QAM? |
| 21:35 | dopester | http://www.digitalregime.com/patches |
| 21:35 | dopester | you MIGHT need to use 2.6.11 since dvb-kernel cvs follows current kernel.. |
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| 21:36 | rkulagow_ | ok, i'll take a look. |
| 21:36 | dopester | just apply the nxt2002 patch for qam |
| 21:36 | dopester | oh wait |
| 21:36 | dopester | duh |
| 21:36 | dopester | the qam stuff is in dvb-kernel cvs |
| 21:36 | rkulagow_ | even more better. |
| 21:37 | dopester | myth cvs has "east atsc scan" |
| 21:37 | dopester | grr easy |
| 21:38 | dopester | i cant even type anymore |
| 21:38 | rkulagow_ | 2.6.11-rc3 is latest 2.6.11... |
| 21:38 | rkulagow_ | use that for linux-dvb? |
| 21:38 | dopester | yeah |
| 21:38 | rkulagow_ | ok |
| 21:39 | dopester | its hard to tell what really works since ive helped so many people in -users and im not sure how many of them are inept |
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| 21:44 | xris | anyone know what this means? ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt-3.3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) |
| 21:44 | xris | it prints tothe screen right before mythfrontend segfaults when I try to watch livetv on my pvr-150 |
| 21:45 | xris | I can record and play back just fine with it, but not livetv. |
| 21:45 | dopester | sounds like a -users issue to me :) |
| 21:45 | xris | dopester: it's something not right in the code. |
| 21:46 | xris | only happens with my pvr-150. |
| 21:46 | dopester | im just giving ya hard time.. |
| 21:46 | xris | ah. then :P |
| 21:46 | xris | I'm just weirded out that it's the frontend crashing, not the backend. |
| 21:47 | xris | oh, and the little mini-preview plays fine. |
| 21:47 | xris | oh, wait, that's irrelevant. recordings play fine. |
| 21:49 | Chutt | heh |
| 21:49 | Chutt | xris, i really don't know :( |
| 21:49 | xris | are there instructions somewhere for how to do a backtrace? |
| 21:49 | Chutt | yeah, troubleshooting section in the docs |
| 21:49 | xris | ok |
| 21:50 | xris | first have to figure out why mythweb isn't scheduling manual recordings properly. |
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| 21:51 | xris | hmm, and it seems that with my new slave backend, I can now actually see the no-preview bug in mythweb. |
| 21:51 | Chutt | heh |
| 21:52 | xris | not that I can do anything about it. |
| 21:53 | xris | the can't-manual-schedule thing is more annoying. |
| 21:53 | xris | but I just sent a note to david and bruce for more info there. |
| 21:53 | xris | so how long before the actual release of .17? |
| 21:57 | Chutt | still thinking wednesday/thursday night |
| 21:57 | xris | ok, off to compile (I hope) with debug enabled. |
| 21:57 | HRearden | xris, do you ever get feedback that the no-preview bug was related to not echoing the QUERY_FILETRANSFER? |
| 21:57 | xris | HRearden: no clue. I haven't thought about it in ages. |
| 21:58 | HRearden | I still don't use the "recorded programs" tab because of it... |
| 21:58 | xris | but I just realized that in my case it was merely that the backend was down and the master didn't realize that it was sharing filespace. |
| 21:58 | HRearden | Do you have a single NFS share for both? |
| 21:59 | xris | yeah. |
| 21:59 | xris | slave backend is just to test my 150 before I put it in my main box |
| 21:59 | HRearden | Oh -- then you still won't see the problem that I was having. |
| 21:59 | xris | yeah, I just realized that. |
| 21:59 | xris | anyway, what's up with the query_filetransfer thing? |
| 21:59 | HRearden | Does anyone who is on right now know if there ever was an intent to echo the QUERY_FILETRANSFER to the correct slave backend, like is done with QUERY_GENPIXMAP? |
| 22:00 | Chutt | shouldn't have to echo it |
| 22:00 | HRearden | So, are you saying that it should just be directed to the correct backend? |
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| 22:00 | Chutt | no |
| 22:00 | Chutt | the path the master gives for the file should be correct - ie, it should be the slave |
| 22:01 | HRearden | Right, but if the master and slave don't share a filesystem, then the path won't work for all files. |
| 22:01 | paulc36 | I see on mailing list archives that MythTV now has support for firewire capture from some of the HD cable boxes. Is this correct? [I use MythTV with pvr-350..very happy, but considering a complete upgrade to HD sometime in ... |
| 22:01 | paulc36 | the next few months] |
| 22:02 | xris | paulc36: #mythtv-users |
| 22:02 | paulc36 | ok..thx |
| 22:02 | Chutt | HRearden, that shouldn't matter. |
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| 22:02 | Chutt | the path the master gives should reference the slave in that case. |
| 22:03 | HRearden | Mythweb just doesn't deal with that case, then, I guess. |
| 22:03 | xris | I'd be happy to make it do so, but have no idea how |
| 22:03 | Chutt | shouldn't be any different than the master alone |
| 22:04 | Chutt | well, assuming the master was on a different box than the mythweb instance |
| 22:04 | HRearden | The path I started down was opening up a separate connection to the slave and then doing a specific QUERY_FILETRANSFER with the slave as the target. |
| 22:04 | Chutt | that's what you're supposed to do |
| 22:04 | Chutt | because that's what the path to the video file returned from the backend indicates |
| 22:05 | HRearden | OK. That's what I thought originally. I just must have screwed up in my attempts to make mythweb talk to more than one backend. |
| 22:05 | xris | ahh. |
| 22:05 | xris | that almost makes sense to me now |
| 22:06 | Chutt | like, when you do a query get recording |
| 22:06 | Chutt | or whatnot |
| 22:06 | Chutt | you get filenames like myth://masterip/blah.nuv |
| 22:06 | Chutt | and if it's on the slave, and the master can't access the file over nfs or whatnot, you'd get myth://slaveip/blah.nuv |
| 22:07 | Chutt | and if you'd talk to the slave for anything regarding that file |
| 22:07 | HRearden | In my attempt, I was parsing out that slave IP and opening another connection. Looks like I was on the right track... |
| 22:07 | Chutt | yup, sounds like it |
| 22:08 | | * xris is still trying to figure out where that info comes into mythweb |
| 22:08 | Chutt | result of a QUERY_RECORDINGS |
| 22:08 | Chutt | unless you bypass that and hit up the db manually? |
| 22:08 | xris | still trying to figure that out. |
| 22:08 | xris | all of this code is before my time. |
| 22:09 | Chutt | heh |
| 22:09 | HRearden | No, it was in that result set as I recall. Trying to re-locate my hacked up version. |
| 22:09 | Beirdo | nothing like taking over some legacy code |
| 22:09 | Chutt | heh |
| 22:09 | xris | hmm, I only see fileurl coming in as /path/to/nuv |
| 22:09 | Chutt | back in a few |
| 22:10 | Chutt | that's because it's a local path |
| 22:10 | xris | yeah |
| 22:10 | xris | guess I need to make my local backend go to a different path |
| 22:10 | Chutt | the backend attempts to be smart about things |
| 22:10 | Chutt | make things easy for the frontend it's talking to |
| 22:13 | xris | aha. there we go |
| 22:14 | HRearden | OK. Found some of the code. In generate_preview_pixmap I parsed fileurl to see if it started with myth:// |
| 22:14 | xris | HRearden: yeah, and I have a sample now. |
| 22:14 | xris | moved my slave backend's video path |
| 22:15 | xris | I think it'll require caching the file pointer used to communicate with the backend |
| 22:16 | HRearden | I ended up creating a new "backend_commandxtra" to allow multiple backend connections to be in play simultaneously. I'm not sure what backend_command2 was for, but I tried to leverage it as well. |
| 22:16 | HRearden | So you didn't write that piece? |
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| 22:18 | xris | HRearden: no, I think that Thor did |
| 22:18 | xris | long before I took over. |
| 22:18 | xris | I think I can come up with something relatively simple to resolve this. |
| 22:19 | HRearden | Great. Anything I can do let me know. More than willing to test whatever you come up with. |
| 22:20 | xris | Chutt: is there a command to pull a slave's port based on its IP? |
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| 22:20 | xris | HRearden: I'll let you know in a half hour or so |
| 22:21 | HRearden | Great. I never thought about it being on a non-default myth port... Ugh. |
| 22:21 | Chutt | xris, the port should be in the myth:// address |
| 22:21 | Chutt | it'll always be there, in fact |
| 22:21 | xris | Chutt: for the files, yes. trying to make something generic. |
| 22:22 | Chutt | you should be able to grab it from the settings table |
| 22:22 | xris | so I don't necessarily have to pass the port to the "backend command" function; |
| 22:22 | Chutt | you need the hostname, but not the ip |
| 22:22 | Chutt | i'd just pass in the port if you have it :p |
| 22:23 | xris | ah. that's a problem, since at least in my case the myth:// has an ip in it |
| 22:23 | xris | and the db has the hostname |
| 22:23 | Beirdo | sounds like xris has some more work ahead of him :) |
| 22:24 | xris | this looks fairly easy now that I know what I'm looking for. |
| 22:24 | xris | will just do the pass-everything-in for now. |
| 22:25 | HRearden | you can do a lookup in settings on BackendServerIP to get the hostname. Then lookup the BackendServerPort associated with that host in settings. |
| 22:30 | xris | well, the only problem I see with this now is that my mythbox is in my dmz and can't talk to my "slave" |
| 22:32 | Beirdo | heh |
| 22:32 | xris | odd. |
| 22:32 | xris | it's trying the wrong IP |
| 22:33 | xris | lol, my bad |
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| 22:37 | xris | w00t. I found out how to kill mythbackend |
| 22:39 | Beirdo | uh oh, you found a bug? :) |
| 22:39 | xris | dunno. for awhile, I was requesting the file from the master backend instead of the slave. file wasn't really there, and the master backend was dying |
| 22:39 | xris | now I just get an empty file. |
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| 22:42 | xris | and a REALLY slow page load |
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| 22:45 | merf | does anyone mind if i ask a database question in here? |
| 22:45 | xris | merf: you're not likely to get it answered. |
| 22:46 | merf | xris: i figured as much |
| 22:46 | | * merf wades mailing lists |
| 22:48 | HRearden | I can't even count the number of times I killed mythbackend in my last attempt at this... |
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| 22:50 | xris | well, I have it working now, except that nothing is getting returned from the slave backend |
| 22:53 | xris | ok, so in the "ANN FileTransfer" -- should I pass the full myth:// stuff, or just the name of the nuv file? |
| 22:53 | xris | I'm getting myth://10.0.0.13:6543/1005_20050207191400_20050207191600.nuv |
| 22:54 | xris | which is clearly not the full path to the file |
| 22:55 | Chutt | you can send back the full thing, or just the filename |
| 22:55 | Beirdo | what, you don't store your files in /? :) |
| 22:55 | Chutt | it'll generate the full path internally |
| 22:56 | xris | ok |
| 22:56 | HRearden | If I recall, I thought that the code only really worked if you passed just the filename, not the full URL. |
| 22:57 | Chutt | i'm pretty sure it'll work with both, but.. |
| 22:57 | xris | and the ANN FileTransfer should also request the .png? |
| 22:57 | Chutt | well, if you want the png, tack .png on the end :p |
| 22:57 | xris | gotcha |
| 22:57 | xris | I get it |
| 22:57 | xris | annoying. each fail takes like 30 seconds to load the page as things time out |
| 22:58 | Chutt | heh |
| 23:00 | Chutt | also, if you can write little snippets of php or whatnot that crash the backend, please do so.. |
| 23:00 | Chutt | i'd like to get those fixed |
| 23:00 | xris | I think I was just querying the backend for a file that it didn't have |
| 23:01 | xris | so file exists on slave, ask master for slave's file, master crashes. |
| 23:01 | Chutt | ok |
| 23:02 | xris | but I may have been requesting something incorrectly, too. |
| 23:02 | xris | man, no clue what I'm doing now in here. |
| 23:03 | xris | damn, still getting an empty file |
| 23:03 | HRearden | xris, you are right -- that scenario does crash the backend -- that was the root cause of the original bug. |
| 23:04 | xris | HRearden: w00t. I found a bug! |
| 23:04 | Chutt | i'll get that fixed sometime |
| 23:04 | xris | s/bug/reproduceable bug/ |
| 23:04 | xris | well, I think I have things set so I expect them to work, but I'm not seeing any results. just an empty file |
| 23:05 | HRearden | I'm willing to take a look at your fix, if you'd like. |
| 23:05 | xris | HRearden: you running latest cvs? |
| 23:05 | HRearden | yes. |
| 23:06 | xris | http://forevermore.net/test/mythbackend.php.txt |
| 23:06 | xris | it has a bunch of debug code in it |
| 23:06 | xris | and the page takes like 30 secs to load as file pointers time out |
| 23:07 | HRearden | Is that the only file that needs to be replaced? |
| 23:07 | xris | should be |
| 23:09 | xris | wait, I'm doing a bunch of wrong stuff in here. |
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| 23:15 | HRearden | xris, by the way, in testing this new version I am getting the occasional IE error: Line 213, popups.0.menu is null or not an object. |
| 23:15 | | * Captain_Murd thinks those idiots on -users talking about how they are "stealing" (my word) cable aren't helping with things like the recent NYT article. |
| 23:15 | xris | HRearden: odd. I've seen that sometimes when a page isn't fully loaded |
| 23:15 | xris | since all of those popups things display hidden at the end of the page |
| 23:16 | HRearden | Doesn't seem to be the problem. |
| 23:17 | xris | ooh, no more slow load. just a NULL image. |
| 23:19 | xris | HRearden: odd |
| 23:19 | xris | slow load again. ick |
| 23:21 | HRearden | OK. I'll bite -- my PHP skills aren't that great. What the heck does that preg_match line do? |
| 23:21 | wswanson | xris; a bug found in latest mythweb:CVS. from video.php, movie titles are cutting the first few chars of the linked file in video_url. so video_url/movie.mpg is video_url/ie.mpg |
| 23:22 | wswanson | I can take a look at it and fix -- but maybe related to other work you are doing -- let me know |
| 23:22 | xris | wswanson: weird. no, I'm not touching it. |
| 23:22 | xris | HRearden: which preg_match line? |
| 23:22 | wswanson | ok, will send a patch on in a few |
| 23:22 | HRearden | nevermind... I looked it up. |
| 23:22 | xris | preg_match is just perl regex match |
| 23:23 | HRearden | got it. |
| 23:23 | xris | ok, I have it such that the slave will generate the pixmap |
| 23:24 | xris | now I just need to know how to get that data TO me. heh. |
| 23:24 | dopester | _rkulagow_: get it working yet? |
| 23:25 | xris | wait, crap, I think I got it. |
| 23:25 | xris | no. damn |
| 23:33 | xris | looks like gen_pixmap is broken for me now |
| 23:35 | xris | yeah. slave isn't generating a pixmap |
| 23:35 | HRearden | Hmm. That one always worked for me. I always sent the gen_pixmap to the master |
| 23:35 | HRearden | It does echo that appropriately to the slaves and they do the right thing. |
| 23:35 | HRearden | It looks like you are sending directly to the slave now, right? |
| 23:36 | xris | I thought that's what I was supposed to do |
| 23:36 | HRearden | Try sending the genpixmap to master and ann_filetransfer to the slaves. |
| 23:36 | xris | ok, genpixmap is back |
| 23:37 | xris | now to figure out how to do the query_filetransfer bit |
| 23:40 | xris | it even gets the correct size of the file to read |
| 23:42 | rkulagow_ | dopester: no joy for me: |
| 23:42 | rkulagow_ | drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-dvb.c: In function `dvb_init': |
| 23:42 | rkulagow_ | drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-dvb.c:56: error: too few arguments to function `videobuf_dvb_register' |
| 23:43 | dopester | kill all the saa related stuff in the kernel |
| 23:43 | dopester | thats what was broken in 2.6.9 |
| 23:43 | dopester | av7110 cards i think uses that |
| 23:43 | dopester | all you need is skystar2 and the nxt2002 frontend under dvb |
| 23:43 | rkulagow_ | you mean back to menuconfig and get rid of the rest? |
| 23:43 | dopester | get rid of the rest if your getting crap like that |
| 23:43 | rkulagow_ | ok, got it. |
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| 23:43 | dopester | yep :) |
| 23:45 | xris | hmm, backend is showing "unknown socket" errors |
| 23:45 | HRearden | I get those occasionally even when not running mythweb. For instance, a mythbackend --printsched will generate that sometimes. |
| 23:46 | rkulagow_ | ok, restarting the compile... |
| 23:47 | rkulagow_ | that page that angel li has doesn't state "de-select everything except what you need..." |
| 23:47 | dopester | when he did it dvb-kernel was working |
| 23:47 | rkulagow_ | ah |
| 23:47 | dopester | im not sure who to blame.. the dvb devs or the linux kernel guys |
| 23:48 | dopester | i THINK v4l is a moving target |
| 23:48 | rkulagow_ | i blame it on rio |
| 23:48 | dopester | but sometimes its been the kernel as wel |
| 23:54 | xris | so QUERY_FILETRANSFER just isn't working for me |
| 23:56 | HRearden | Did you make sure that you did ANN FileTransfer and then QUERY_FILETRANSFER to the same host -- both should go to the slave. |
| 23:56 | xris | pretty sure |
| 23:56 | xris | yeah |
| 23:57 | xris | query returns '' |
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