| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 08 00:00:02 2005 |
| 00:01 | HRearden | Hmm. Can you copy off your code again so I can take another look. |
| 00:03 | xris | hang on, poking at something |
| 00:04 | | gr8nash-home | ouch that was my eye! |
| 00:04 | | * gr8nash-home swats his hand |
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| 00:08 | xris | HRearden: so which socket does the file transfer happen on? |
| 00:09 | xris | from the php, it looks like it happens on the same one that the ANN happens on, but that the QUERY must happen on a separate one. |
| 00:09 | xris | anyway, new php.text for you |
| 00:12 | HRearden | looking now... |
| 00:13 | xris | I reverted a bunch of the code |
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| 00:19 | xris | Chutt: what's the proper sequence of events for querying these files? |
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| 00:21 | HRearden | I thought the query and transfer happened on the same socket. Is there any standard mythtv functionality that uses these calls? I could do an ethereal dump to see the right sequence... |
| 00:22 | xris | no clue |
| 00:22 | xris | hence my asking Chutt |
| 00:29 | HRearden | Argh. I'm not seeing it. I might have to put some additional debugs in the backend as well in order to track this down. |
| 00:29 | dopester | _rkulagow_: any luck yet? |
| 00:29 | xris | I want to know what's up with the backend_command2 stuff. I know that it was put in specifically because of the pixmap query. |
| 00:31 | HRearden | Hmm. It *is* only used there, but it is more relevant for the filetransfer than the genpixmap. |
| 00:32 | HRearden | Well, gotta run for now. I'll check back in tomorrow night. Send a note to the dev list if I can help test anything. |
| 00:32 | HRearden | Thanks for taking a look at this, though. It seems like it only affects a relatively small proportion of us. |
| 00:33 | xris | well, it was used elsewhere. I've been updating things so that it's not. |
| 00:33 | xris | yeah. still nice to get the bugs fixed. |
| 00:33 | HRearden | Ah. |
| 00:34 | xris | and I'm hoping that I haven't broken anything else in the meantime |
| 00:34 | HRearden | Yeah, I just figured one more shot before .17. |
| 00:34 | xris | but I remember that it was added specifically because of teh pixmap stuff |
| 00:34 | HRearden | Nothing else should need it -- you are right. |
| 00:35 | HRearden | Well, thanks anyway. Maybe I'll try again later. |
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| 00:36 | Omnic | cvs update: cannot open directory /var/lib/mythcvs/mythweb/themes/compact: No such file or directory |
| 00:36 | Omnic | eep? |
| 00:37 | xris | Omnic: that'd be because it's gone |
| 00:37 | xris | use cvs up -Pd |
| 00:38 | Omnic | xris: interesting, there's no mention of that dir in my CVS/* files... but ok.. |
| 00:55 | o_cee | Chutt, should i change those timestretch messages to vb_audio? |
| 00:56 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, the osd menu, comm flag, you can set the top alternative to be the same as the bottom alternative even though they aren't the same at all (right?) |
| 01:04 | o_cee | looks kind of odd.. |
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| 01:23 | dopester | _rkulagow_: last chance.. im heading to bed.. if you want help speak now or your on your own :) |
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| 05:49 | lanzm | hi. which plugin would you recoomend to use as a template for a new plugin ? |
| 05:51 | stoffel_ | mythweather is a simple one i believe, but i'm not really a developer |
| 06:08 | o_cee | mythgame is simple |
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| 06:15 | lanzm | I want to have done periodically (like cron) a task executed by the backend. where would you start with this ? |
| 06:16 | stoffel_ | why don't you use cron? |
| 06:21 | lanzm | I want to keep a searchlist for tv-shows. if a show is found there shall be some actions taken. |
| 06:21 | stoffel_ | what action? |
| 06:21 | lanzm | like schedule a record |
| 06:21 | stoffel_ | use the new search-types in 0.17. they are quite powerfull |
| 06:23 | stoffel_ | see http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UnderDevelopment for a list of changes in cvs, which will become 0.17 this week |
| 06:31 | o_cee | and there's already custom user jobs |
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| 06:49 | stoffel_ | o_cee: could you apply the last of my patches i sent to the -dev list? except the mythphone one. |
| 06:49 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch! |
| 06:49 | o_cee | stoffel_, something you just sent? |
| 06:49 | stoffel_ | no, yesterday |
| 06:49 | o_cee | i haven't applied them?? |
| 06:50 | o_cee | you should keep track of the "applied" mails |
| 06:50 | stoffel_ | i do |
| 06:50 | o_cee | and the commit list. |
| 06:50 | o_cee | so wich haven't i applied? |
| 06:51 | stoffel_ | you should keep track of patches you applied ;) |
| 06:51 | stoffel_ | there's a small patch to mythweathers AUTHORS file i sent |
| 06:52 | o_cee | yeah, feeled kinda pointless |
| 06:52 | stoffel_ | why? |
| 06:52 | o_cee | since it already says: "and others", besides, no other translations are in that file |
| 06:53 | stoffel_ | others don't have names and i only found Christians name in the cvs after i sent it |
| 06:53 | stoffel_ | not that i would care much about it, though |
| 06:54 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, there are 4 possible options on that OSD menu. AS OFF, AS Pre-Notify, AS Notify, and AS ON. it only displays the 3 that aren't set, so if you have AS ON, it won't display that option. it could easily be modified to display them all if the OSD menu has a way to disable/grey-out an option. |
| 06:54 | o_cee | i'll apply it next time you have a nythweather update, send it along then |
| 06:55 | stoffel_ | ok |
| 06:58 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, example, my menu looks like this: http://minioffroad.se/strange_osdmenu.png (still uploading) |
| 06:59 | o_cee | that's a bit confusing i think :) |
| 07:00 | o_cee | also, when changing the one at the top, it prints out the previous setting to the osd instead of the new one.. would be nice to be able to have it 3 level deep as well to see alternatives without having to cycle, then re-enter, cycle, re-enter... and so on.. |
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| 07:07 | Captain_Murdo | | I never even use the thing. :) what do you think would make more sense? |
| 07:07 | Captain_Murdo | | it tries to be smart right now and only display the options that you can actually choose, but that is probably making it worse. |
| 07:08 | Captain_Murdo | | what if it said "Auto-Skip Notify OFF" instead of AS OFF for this instance? |
| 07:12 | o_cee | well, uhm, i'm still confused as to what the options actually do :) |
| 07:12 | Captain_Murdo | | do you know what notify is? |
| 07:13 | o_cee | yeah |
| 07:14 | Captain_Murdo | | ok, so only one out of the 4 can be active. OFF, ON, Notify (instead of skip), and Pre-Notify (notify a little early depending on the pre-notify seconds setting) |
| 07:14 | Captain_Murdo | | so OFF means no notify and no auto-skip. |
| 07:14 | o_cee | thus, auto-skip completely off |
| 07:15 | Captain_Murdo | | so maybe "Auto-Skip OFF" should change to be "Notify OFF" or "Pre-Notify OFF" or "Auto-Skip OFF" depending on which option is on at the time. |
| 07:15 | o_cee | wich i thought the bottom alternative was for, to completely turn it off? |
| 07:15 | Captain_Murdo | | bottom option says ON though. |
| 07:15 | o_cee | don't really see why you want two options for turning it off? |
| 07:16 | Captain_Murdo | | not getting you. there is only 1 OFF and that disables everything. |
| 07:16 | o_cee | my top item says off? |
| 07:17 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, and the other 2 don't |
| 07:18 | o_cee | yeah but there's not only 1 off that disables everything.. the top item here says that's its off, even though it's on.. heh.. yeah i'm confused :) |
| 07:18 | Captain_Murdo | | I think the "Auto-Skip" in front of everything is confusing things. Might be better if it was just "OFF", "Notify", "Pre-Notify", and "ON" with the invalid option greyed out. |
| 07:18 | Captain_Murdo | | why do you think it's ON right now? is Notify ON? |
| 07:18 | o_cee | yeah ok. but why do you need "Off" there as well? |
| 07:19 | Captain_Murdo | | so you can turn it OFF |
| 07:19 | o_cee | but i'd do that "globally" on the bottom one |
| 07:19 | Captain_Murdo | | if the program isn't flagged correctly, you might want to turn auto-skip off. |
| 07:20 | Captain_Murdo | | you can't have auto-skip ON and (pre)notify ON at the same time though, the 4 options are mutually exclusive. |
| 07:20 | o_cee | yeah but you can do that both there and the "Off" thingie at top now no? or the top one just controls if it should notify _as well_ as skipping? |
| 07:21 | o_cee | ok, put the "Auto-skip on/off" at the top to start with i think. |
| 07:21 | o_cee | then i would like to see a third level i think, but maybe that's not possible |
| 07:22 | o_cee | or just have one other alternative with pre-notify, notify, and don't notify |
| 07:23 | o_cee | does that make sense? |
| 07:23 | Captain_Murdo | | but if you turn on NOTIFY, you in-effect turn auto-skip OFF so that might be just as confusing to some people. it's like there are 4 levels of skip. off/pre-notify/notify/skip |
| 07:24 | o_cee | notify doesn't skip? pre-notify doesn't skip either? |
| 07:25 | o_cee | 4 levels of skip sounds like something easy to put in a menu though :) |
| 07:25 | Captain_Murdo | | no, they just notify, it's in the help text on the settings page I believe. they just notify so you can see if the show flagged correctly and hit Z if you want to skip |
| 07:25 | Captain_Murdo | | I guess it makes more sense to people who use notify than people who don't. I don't use either notify or auto-skip. :) |
| 07:26 | o_cee | so then you just need to put the current state in the main menu, with the possibility to change between the four different alternatives in the sub-menu...? |
| 07:27 | o_cee | since there's no way to indicate in the submenu what options is currently active, right? |
| 07:27 | Captain_Murdo | | so you're thinking "Commercial Auto-Skip <CURRENT_STATE>" then a submenu with Off/Pre-Notify/Notify/On |
| 07:28 | Captain_Murdo | | no way that I know of. I was going to look at the code to see if you could disable an option on the menu. |
| 07:28 | o_cee | yeah exactly, dunno if it'll fit |
| 07:29 | o_cee | if there would be an indication on what alternative is active the <CURRENT_STATE> won't be needed.. |
| 07:29 | o_cee | guess that'd be nice for the aspect stuff as well |
| 07:29 | Captain_Murdo | | might be actually, there's a 'checkable' option when you create the menu item. not sure if that is a checkbox or if it means enable/disable |
| 07:29 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah. |
| 07:29 | o_cee | and timestretch |
| 07:30 | o_cee | dunno, Chutt ? |
| 07:30 | o_cee | those checks are used in mythmusic i think.. haven't used it in months so don't remember how they work |
| 07:30 | o_cee | but if you could make them exclusive it would work |
| 07:31 | Captain_Murdo | | the checkable is a checkbox. and you can set the checkbox on/off for an item. so the current option could have a checkbox. |
| 07:31 | Captain_Murdo | | have a check that is. |
| 07:31 | o_cee | yeah, that would work. just need to make the check "move" when selecting something new |
| 07:34 | Captain_Murdo | | there appears to maybe be another way to disable the active setting. |
| 07:35 | stoffel_ | hm, on a fresh installation (well one without a .mythtv/mysql.txt) shouldn't mythtv switch to the selected language before asking for the db details? |
| 07:35 | o_cee | okay.. still needs to be clearly visible what's active |
| 07:35 | o_cee | stoffel_, probably... |
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| 07:50 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, I'll see what I can figure out. need to get another hour or so of sleep, had to get up to do maintenance on a server. |
| 07:51 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, allright, talk to you later :) |
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| 09:17 | _rkulagow_ | dopester: here? |
| 09:20 | dopester | yeah |
| 09:20 | dopester | not for long |
| 09:20 | _rkulagow_ | same compile failure as last night. i made sure i just re-synced with linux-dvb CVS |
| 09:20 | dopester | grr.. 2.6.11? |
| 09:21 | _rkulagow_ | if you got to go, then take off. i'll see if i can figure it out. |
| 09:21 | _rkulagow_ | yes, 2.6.11-rc3 |
| 09:21 | dopester | did you use linuxdvb cvs? |
| 09:21 | dopester | you don't need to |
| 09:21 | dopester | i hope i didn't steer you wrong last night i was sorta out of it |
| 09:21 | _rkulagow_ | i did; just following the angel li page that you said you helped out on |
| 09:21 | dopester | 2.6.11 has my driver in it |
| 09:21 | dopester | so just use it vanilla |
| 09:22 | _rkulagow_ | ok, i'll give it another try. |
| 09:22 | dopester | if you want qam just patch the nxt2002.c file in /drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ |
| 09:22 | dopester | http://www.digitalregime.com/patches/ |
| 09:22 | dopester | let me make sure the qam patch is there |
| 09:22 | _rkulagow_ | ok |
| 09:22 | dopester | yeah just patch that file with nxt2002-qam.patch |
| 09:23 | dopester | i think dvb kernel is whats screwin ya |
| 09:23 | dopester | you still need to get the dvb-apps cvs for testing it with azap |
| 09:23 | _rkulagow_ | alright; i'm untarring the source tree again and start over |
| 09:23 | dopester | how long did ya mess with it? |
| 09:24 | _rkulagow_ | not too long; was watching tv mostly last night. |
| 09:24 | dopester | ahh ok good.. |
| 09:24 | dopester | im wondering when chutt will try.. |
| 09:28 | jams | dopester when will the qam stuff be in dvb-kernel cvs? |
| 09:28 | dopester | its in dvb-kernel now |
| 09:28 | dopester | but its apparently being feisty again |
| 09:29 | dopester | so easier to get 2.6.11 with my stuff and patch that kernel with the whopping 20-30 line patchfile for qam |
| 09:30 | dopester | i think the qam stuff should be in 2.6.12 since this went in 2.6.11 |
| 09:31 | dopester | i assume dtk never gets on irc? |
| 09:35 | jams | if he does I don't know the handle |
| 09:35 | dopester | yeah im tiring of an email back and forth to him.. hhe i need to just talk to him for about 5 minutes about changing the fe/be protocol.. |
| 09:37 | dopester | he probbably is smart to stay away from irc.. always sucks me in.. damn time sink.. |
| 09:37 | laga | dopester: ack. ;) |
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| 09:58 | _rkulagow_ | dopester. vanilla 2.6.11-rc3 is still dying in the same place. in make menuconfig i made sure to only select the b2c2 (or whatever) card. |
| 09:58 | _rkulagow_ | drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-dvb.c: In function `dvb_init': |
| 09:58 | _rkulagow_ | drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-dvb.c:56: error: too few arguments to function `videobuf_dvb_register' |
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| 10:52 | o_cee | bug #184 might want to try with latest cvs |
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| 12:58 | o_cee | Chutt, those timestretch messages, shouldn't they be moved to vb_audio? |
| 12:59 | Chutt | playback |
| 12:59 | Chutt | or general, doesn't matter |
| 13:00 | o_cee | just thought it spammed general |
| 13:00 | o_cee | spits out message about it whenever you change it |
| 13:00 | Chutt | right |
| 13:00 | Chutt | it's fine there |
| 13:01 | o_cee | okay :) |
| 13:02 | o_cee | damn maintaining a website on a server without ssh and access to configfiles (and reeeaaly slow support) is really boring |
| 13:03 | Beirdo | :) |
| 13:03 | Beirdo | yeah |
| 13:05 | o_cee | and and Display Errors: OFF doesn't make it better |
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| 13:20 | o_cee | heh oo takes some time to compile :P |
| 13:28 | dopester | _rkulagow_: i dont know what to say it works here.. are you making them as modules? |
| 13:29 | _rkulagow_ | i think that's the default. |
| 13:29 | _rkulagow_ | want me to try as compiled in? |
| 13:29 | dopester | no |
| 13:29 | _rkulagow_ | ok |
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| 13:29 | dopester | no help for you! :) |
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| 13:30 | _rkulagow_ | huh. wonder what just happened |
| 13:30 | dopester | 2.6.11-rc3? |
| 13:30 | _rkulagow_ | yes |
| 13:30 | dopester | you got other v4l stuff in there maybe? |
| 13:30 | dopester | mine didnt even touch sa7134 |
| 13:30 | dopester | er saa7134 |
| 13:30 | _rkulagow_ | i'll take another look. |
| 13:31 | _rkulagow_ | yeah, it's build v4l stuff. |
| 13:31 | _rkulagow_ | philips saa7134 support is "M", with DVB Support for saa7134 based TV cards on "M" as well. |
| 13:32 | _rkulagow_ | i'd still need to build bt848 video for linux to get the tuner for ivtv, right? i'm assuming the rest can go. |
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| 13:33 | dopester | i suppose but im really not sure |
| 13:34 | dopester | well saa7134 is clearly whats failing so rip it out |
| 13:34 | _rkulagow_ | i restarted, so i'll see how it goes now |
| 13:34 | dopester | k |
| 13:35 | _rkulagow_ | also, aren't you supposed to be at work? |
| 13:36 | dopester | i had to come home |
| 13:36 | dopester | i got a leaky pipe in the wall so im waiting on some plumbers |
| 13:36 | dopester | so i can get my house all cut up... yeah |
| 13:38 | _rkulagow_ | well, it's into the scsi drivers, so i guess that was that. |
| 13:38 | dopester | there ya go |
| 13:38 | dopester | :) |
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| 13:48 | o_cee | Chutt, there's alot of unmaintained translations btw.. only swe, jap, ger, fre that's somewhat active maintained.. |
| 13:48 | o_cee | and nl |
| 13:49 | o_cee | si and fi is pretty ok too, but haven't been updated now prior to .17. ah well :) |
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| 15:10 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, you around? |
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| 15:26 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, yes |
| 15:27 | Captain_Murdo | | what do you think about the checkboxes in this: http://www.bc2va.org/chris/tmp/osd_checkmenu.jpg |
| 15:27 | Captain_Murdo | | sorry, wrong url. |
| 15:27 | Captain_Murdo | | http://bc2va.dyndns.org:23510/chris/tmp/osd_checkmenu.jpg |
| 15:28 | o_cee | one sec |
| 15:28 | o_cee | you mean the checkboxes itself or the menu in whole? |
| 15:29 | o_cee | checkbox looks good, would be nice if you could switch between them without the menu shutting down as well i guess, if it doesn't do that already |
| 15:30 | o_cee | monster garage? |
| 15:32 | Captain_Murdo | | just the style of checkboxes, that's not the menu redone, just showing how the checkboxes would look. |
| 15:33 | dopester | look cool to me |
| 15:33 | dopester | captian_murdoch: get your air2pc yet? |
| 15:33 | Captain_Murdo | | that is dependent on how the tree works, not sure if you can change the state of a checkbox through the osdgenerictree |
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| 15:33 | Chutt | i'm not sure if i ever tested checkboxes with the osd |
| 15:33 | Captain_Murdo | | dopester: should be here tomorrow. left Atlanta this morning headed this way. |
| 15:34 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt: I don't think they work if you want to modify them but if you just want to display and have the OSD close when a new item is picked, then I think they work ok. |
| 15:34 | o_cee | would make a lot more sense to me at least |
| 15:35 | Captain_Murdo | | what? to close or to make the checkboxes work? I think the OSD menu closes when you pick pretty much anything except the aspect ratio currently. |
| 15:36 | o_cee | the checkboxes itself, generally |
| 15:36 | o_cee | how does the aspect ratio work? |
| 15:36 | o_cee | picking that is |
| 15:37 | Captain_Murdo | | aspect ratio stays open and you can just keep going up/down and hitting ENTER and it changes aspect. to exit you have to hit ESC |
| 15:37 | Captain_Murdo | | the TOGGLEASPECT section is the only one that sets "hidetree = false;" which keeps the tree open even after you hit ENTER on an item. |
| 15:37 | o_cee | dunno wich one is prefered for the comm stuff, maybe closing it down works just as well, guess it's nothing you need to really preview, and when you've made your choice you have.. |
| 15:38 | Captain_Murdo | | well, with the comm stuff, it's not like you'll see a change right away. with the aspect stuff it is nice to be able to cycle through the various ones without having to keep reopening the OSD menu if you're trying to find the right aspect. (for people who don't have W mapped). :) |
| 15:39 | o_cee | yep, agree |
| 15:41 | o_cee | you might want to do other things in the menu though.. but it hasn't been like that before anyway so :) |
| 15:41 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, would it be OK if OSDGenericTree kept a pointer to the OSDListBtnTypeItem that was created for it so you can easily toggle the checked state of an OSDGenericTree item? |
| 15:42 | Captain_Murdo | | actually it's not that easy, nevermind. need a way to disable the other items when a new one is checked. |
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| 15:43 | o_cee | hm, "begin transcoding" in the osd menu, might as well be deleted.. don't people do that from watch recs now anyway? there should be "start commflag" else as well hehe |
| 15:44 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, yeah, that's monster garage. I tried to capture it when the sign came on but missed it. :) |
| 15:44 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, hehe ;) |
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| 15:46 | dopester | lord does mythgame even work? |
| 15:51 | Captain_Murdo | | ok, reload that image and see how it looks. |
| 15:51 | Captain_Murdo | | or should I get rid of the "Auto-Skip" on each item? |
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| 15:53 | Captain_Murdo | | for another example with a different item checked.... http://bc2va.dyndns.org:23510/chris/tmp/osd_checkmenu2.jpg |
| 16:06 | GeckoFiend_ | dopester heh that's a good question |
| 16:08 | dopester | its like 100 lines of code to check the version of xmame im using |
| 16:08 | dopester | and somewhere in there it fails |
| 16:09 | dopester | force it to pass that check, and it just segvs loading games.. |
| 16:10 | dopester | the "something is requesting a screen update of zero size" messages are nice too.. heh |
| 16:17 | dopester | lord im never going into #mythtv-users again |
| 16:17 | dopester | i can't handle the hair brained questions |
| 16:17 | Beirdo | I'm sure you'll be back :) |
| 16:18 | dopester | eventually.. i don't deserve to be asked "how do i use an antenna" |
| 16:19 | Beirdo | if he asked that in the channel itself, we'd have to kick him for not reading the topic. |
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| 16:20 | GeckoFiend_ | dopester nobody has really maintained MythGame in quite a while. It might be time to gut it and simplify things so it doesnt NEED maintained |
| 16:20 | Beirdo | in particular, the Please don't be a dumbass! Dammit! part |
| 16:20 | dopester | yeah whenever i get my new hd frontend setup i'll probbably want to make it work |
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| 16:20 | dopester | seems like its way way way way to complicated |
| 16:20 | Torq | yeah some fuckwit in -users was asking how to receive -T with an antenna connected to a -C card. |
| 16:21 | Chutt | it shouldn't be handling options |
| 16:21 | dopester | xmamerc seems to do everything you need |
| 16:21 | dopester | which should make it versionless |
| 16:22 | dopester | GeckoFiend_: you have any interest in allocating some time to help me gut it one of these days? |
| 16:22 | Torq | you realise a lot of -users are children under 16. |
| 16:23 | laga | i dont think that many kids under 16 can set up mythtv ;) |
| 16:24 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, if you leav it like that you won't get into trouble with translations (i think they're all old strings) |
| 16:24 | o_cee | looks good to me |
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| 16:24 | Captain_Murdo | | ok, trying to see if I can make it so you can change the checkbox like for the aspect ratio menu. |
| 16:25 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, but it's not possible to have autoskip AND pre-notify? |
| 16:27 | Captain_Murdo | | no, you can only have 1 of the 4 options active. |
| 16:27 | o_cee | okay :) |
| 16:27 | Captain_Murdo | | it's the same variable with 4 different values (0-3) |
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| 16:27 | Captain_Murdo | | s/variable/setting/ |
| 16:28 | o_cee | allright |
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| 16:30 | Torq | laga: you'd be surprised... |
| 16:30 | laga | Torq: are there any official statistics? |
| 16:36 | GeckoFiend_ | dopester probably, I just got done meeting with my current client about reducing my level of involvement here. Starting a gradual reduction in days of work, with longer days I am here |
| 16:37 | GeckoFiend_ | They were releaved I was only reducing hours. They thought I was going to walk out on my contract. (something I've NEVER done). |
| 16:38 | Beirdo | GeckoFiend_: I've been sorely tempted to do that before |
| 16:39 | GeckoFiend_ | heh I get tempted at least once a week. I take a lot of pride in that every one of my previous clients has called me back for additional projects though. It's a nice selling point |
| 16:39 | Beirdo | thankfully, I was a full-time employee of the company that farmed me out. |
| 16:39 | Beirdo | I told my boss that I didn't care if he extended the contract or not, I'll be back in the office on this date |
| 16:40 | GeckoFiend_ | heh |
| 16:40 | Beirdo | he subsequently didn't extend the contract |
| 16:40 | Beirdo | that place wasn't a pleasant place to be. |
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| 16:46 | Beirdo | Welcome, wseltzer |
| 16:48 | wseltzer | thanks, Beirdo |
| 16:49 | Beirdo | it's pretty quiet on right now here. If you are interested in the -users channel, it's usually bustling, but you might get mobbed with silly questions. :) |
| 16:49 | wseltzer | I'm just hanging out while I get our HDTV setup in shape |
| 16:50 | Beirdo | Cool. |
| 16:50 | wseltzer | looking forward to .17, because it makes the setup so much easier to explain |
| 16:51 | Torq | yeah i'm so excited about .17 |
| 16:51 | Beirdo | Well, if all goes well, should be in a day or two. Unless it gets pushed out again, but that's Isaac's call. |
| 16:51 | Torq | I still think we should be sending this out as a single package with all the plugins |
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| 16:52 | Beirdo | Torq: you take that up with Chutt. |
| 16:52 | Beirdo | it's his project to distribute however he wants |
| 16:52 | Torq | yes of course it is, I have my opinions though |
| 16:53 | GeckoFiend_ | opinions are like assholes... |
| 16:54 | Captain_Murdo | | Torq, I think he's mentioned before something about potentially going with to 2 packages. one being main mythfrontend/backend/etc. and the other would have all the plugins. |
| 16:54 | Torq | do give us the catchphrase... |
| 16:54 | GeckoFiend_ | and on that note I'm heading home to slave away on that new theme. see everyone in an houre or so |
| 16:54 | Torq | Capt_murdoch: thats an excellent idea. |
| 16:54 | Beirdo | Seeya, GeckoFiend_ :) |
| 16:54 | GeckoFiend_ | Torq everyone has one and most of them stink |
| 16:55 | Torq | dont all assholes stink? |
| 16:55 | Torq | have you met one that doesnt? |
| 16:55 | | * Beirdo sighs |
| 16:56 | laga | mine smells like flowers |
| 16:56 | Beirdo | Sig. |
| 16:56 | Beirdo | so tonight I think I'll get back to working on nuv2avi |
| 16:57 | Beirdo | see if I can't get the RT-JPEG conversion going |
| 16:57 | dopester | wseltzer: just remember who made it easier :) |
| 16:58 | wseltzer | dopester, you still haven't told me when you'll be in SF |
| 16:58 | dopester | might be a while.. i don't really have any plans.. but i will be doing some traveling.. |
| 16:58 | dopester | you should go over to google and tell my cousin to return my call.. then again hes probbably rolling around in all the google shares he has now ;) |
| 17:00 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:00 | dopester | he was something like the 40th guy there |
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| 17:04 | Chutt | nice |
| 17:04 | Chutt | i turned down interviewing for them last year :p |
| 17:04 | Chutt | didn't want to relocate to ca |
| 17:05 | Beirdo | to .ca or .ca.us? or either? |
| 17:05 | Chutt | .ca.us |
| 17:06 | Chutt | static QRegExp rx(QString::fromLatin1("'[^']*'|:([a-zA-Z0-9_]+)")); |
| 17:06 | Beirdo | ahh |
| 17:06 | Chutt | Someone needs to go smack the idiot at trolltech that wrote that |
| 17:07 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, can you tell me if this is too off-base of a way to implement the ability to use checkboxes in groups as kind of radio buttons on the OSD menu... http://bc2va.dyndns.org:23510/chris/tmp/osd_checkbox.diff |
| 17:08 | Chutt | well, aside from the tabs in tv_play |
| 17:08 | Chutt | yeah |
| 17:08 | Captain_Murdo | | so the tabs are ok but the code is bad? :) |
| 17:08 | Chutt | looks reasonable |
| 17:08 | Chutt | oh, reverse my logic |
| 17:09 | Captain_Murdo | | ok. I'm going to commit that with code (minus the tabs) that will use checkboxes on the commercial skip, aspect ratio, and timetretch submenus. |
| 17:09 | Chutt | it works, too? |
| 17:09 | Captain_Murdo | | seems to be working nicely here. |
| 17:09 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah |
| 17:09 | Chutt | cool. |
| 17:10 | Chutt | changing all the QSqlQueries is going to suck. |
| 17:10 | Captain_Murdo | | the "group" ties together buttons and allows you to turn off the other buttons by calling OSDListTreeType::SetGroupCheckState, then it turns on the one you just selected. |
| 17:11 | dopester | chutt: when you going to get your air2pc working? |
| 17:11 | Chutt | maybe this weekend, unless i spend it playing games |
| 17:11 | Beirdo | After all the patching, you're due some game time, I'd say :) |
| 17:13 | Chutt | gotta finish suikoden 4 |
| 17:13 | Chutt | because xenosaga 2 comes out pretty soon |
| 17:14 | Torq | never heard of those games... |
| 17:14 | Torq | have you finished half-life 2 |
| 17:14 | Chutt | no |
| 17:15 | Chutt | have absolutely no desire to play fps style games |
| 17:15 | laga | well, you need to hang out in #mythtv-users then ;) |
| 17:17 | Beirdo | heh. That would give him the desire to shoot users, not play FPS games |
| 17:18 | laga | hehe |
| 17:20 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:20 | Torq | how is xenosaga not a fps game? |
| 17:20 | Chutt | it's a rpg? |
| 17:22 | Torq | looks like an interesting game, just looking at the screenshots |
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| 17:48 | Chutt | yay, last conference call of the day's over |
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| 17:49 | o_cee | :] |
| 17:53 | Torq | msn is really broken |
| 17:54 | o_cee | been down all day |
| 17:55 | Torq | their status page returns an error too |
| 17:55 | o_cee | couldn't find any |
| 17:55 | dopester | just use something else.. msn is crap.. its done this so many times before |
| 17:55 | Torq | its on your msn client menu |
| 17:56 | dopester | like yesterday even :) |
| 17:56 | o_cee | Torq, in gaim? |
| 17:56 | o_cee | got jabber and some other stuff as well ;) |
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| 18:47 | o_cee | Chutt, is it a problem if i assume that <sub-title> comes in the beginning of <programme>? i want to use <episode-num system="onscreen"> and put that in subtitle if it's empty, but to do it 100% properly i'd need to put it outside the loop and check if subtitle is empty.. no problem with the easy way for the swedish data, dunno if the tag exists in any other grabber |
| 18:48 | o_cee | or i could remove the = "" check from the sub-title filling.. if there's two sub-titles it might as well use either one hehe |
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| 18:58 | Geckofiend | hmm any idea why we have a rec status indicator in the previously recorded screen? Shouldn't they all say "not recording"? |
| 19:00 | o_cee | previously recorded? don't think i've ever looked at that screen, heh. but no sounds odd |
| 19:00 | o_cee | Chutt, no opinion? then i'll just throw it in the simple way assuming nice formatted xmltv like we have ;) |
| 19:03 | Geckofiend | I *might* have one of the UI gurus I work with talked into tweaking my themes. The man has such an amazing eye for layout and color it's not even funny. I could spend all day polishing something and he could spend an hour repolishing it and showing me just how bad a job I did |
| 19:04 | o_cee | :) |
| 19:04 | o_cee | sounds nice |
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| 19:04 | o_cee | i'll be remaking gant when we got mythui, don't know if i'll touch it before then |
| 19:05 | dopester | where you work gecko? |
| 19:10 | Torq | Apple? :) I wish, it would be nice to have a jonathan ive designed interface for myth ;) |
| 19:17 | Geckofiend | ahhhh now I see why there's a rec status indicator. the same screen is reused for the "list upcoming episodes" screen. |
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| 19:46 | dopester | i can't get mythgame to work to save my life.. lotsa segfaults.. boy its bad |
| 19:47 | o_cee | uhm, a show about cars.. what category do you get that in? can't seem to find a matching cat |
| 19:47 | o_cee | new cars, test of cars and so on :) |
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| 19:56 | o_cee | and how does DD handle categories like Science Fiction-Comedy? |
| 19:57 | Beirdo | can you give me an example of a show to look at, o_cee? |
| 19:57 | o_cee | that was a movie called uhm "Beer from space" hehe |
| 19:58 | o_cee | the first thing.. maybe you've got "Top Gear"? bbc-produced car-program |
| 19:58 | Beirdo | let me check |
| 19:58 | o_cee | movie called: Everyone Says I Love You wich says Musical-Comedy here.. |
| 19:58 | Beirdo | OK, no Top Gear |
| 19:59 | Beirdo | let me check on Speedvision |
| 19:59 | Beirdo | there's always car stuff there |
| 19:59 | o_cee | k |
| 20:00 | Beirdo | Category Auto |
| 20:00 | Beirdo | That's for Car Crazy |
| 20:00 | o_cee | yeah, wich would mean that you don't get any color for it right? |
| 20:00 | Beirdo | it's brown in mythweb |
| 20:01 | o_cee | yeah it uses other criterias |
| 20:01 | o_cee | seperated from the frontend |
| 20:01 | Beirdo | and many other ones show up as "Sports non-event" |
| 20:01 | o_cee | damn my mouse turned red (battery) heheheh |
| 20:01 | Beirdo | heh |
| 20:02 | Beirdo | I had mine die mid-game last week |
| 20:02 | o_cee | heheh, well guess that's a sign to go to bed.. |
| 20:03 | Beirdo | "Sports Car Revolution" lists as "Sports non-event" |
| 20:04 | o_cee | odd cat |
| 20:04 | o_cee | you didn't have "Beer from space" ? :) |
| 20:04 | o_cee | maybe that's not the right title |
| 20:05 | Beirdo | let me check |
| 20:05 | o_cee | http://imdb.com/title/tt0116242/ example: three categories.. my data says Musical-Comedy.. hmm tricky |
| 20:06 | Beirdo | hehe, no beer from space, sounds interesting though |
| 20:07 | o_cee | :P |
| 20:11 | mikegrb | mmmm beer |
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| 20:27 | GreyFoxx | yay, mythfrontend died. That's twice in 2 days. Anyone out there seeing it crash as well? |
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| 20:35 | Beirdo | mine has been occasionally when I quit a playing recording mid-way saying to delete |
| 20:35 | Beirdo | haven't taken the time to debug it yet |
| 20:36 | Beirdo | and it's not completely repeatable |
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| 20:36 | wseltzer | Question: Who sets the default RSS feeds? -- I'd like to add EFF's |
| 20:37 | wseltzer | (in mythnews) |
| 20:37 | GreyFoxx | Beirdo, mine died last night and just now. I grabbed a bt this time though |
| 20:37 | Beirdo | excellent |
| 20:37 | GreyFoxx | Though looking at it I think it's a threading issue |
| 20:38 | GreyFoxx | but I'll send it to the -dev list soon |
| 20:38 | Beirdo | I need to add a ulimit -c ${HUGE_NUMBER} to my startup script |
| 20:39 | GreyFoxx | heh |
| 20:42 | o_cee | g'night! |
| 20:43 | Beirdo | night, o_cee |
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| 21:40 | rkulagow_ | dopester: here? |
| 21:40 | dopester | yep |
| 21:40 | dopester | please tell me ya got it working |
| 21:40 | rkulagow_ | hey, just setting up my settings.pro |
| 21:40 | rkulagow_ | well, i got the kernel compiled, but can't reboot until later. gilmore girls, scrubs, etc. |
| 21:40 | dopester | heh |
| 21:41 | dopester | reboot during a commercial :) |
| 21:41 | rkulagow_ | i've got a bunch of different "frontend.h"'s in /usr/src now. there's the one that was downloaded from linux-dvb CVS, there's the one that came with 2.6.11-rc3 |
| 21:41 | rkulagow_ | the note in settings.pro isn't clearing things up for me |
| 21:42 | dopester | yeah i think that comment made it even less clear than before |
| 21:42 | dopester | either headers should work fine |
| 21:43 | rkulagow_ | i'm just doing a visual grep right now. looks like there are a bunch of whitespace changes, but let me just finish |
| 21:44 | dopester | INCLUDEPATH += /usr/src/linux-2.6.10/include |
| 21:44 | dopester | thats how mine is |
| 21:44 | dopester | the headers rarely change |
| 21:44 | dopester | adding atsc to frontend.h (by me) is the first time most of that stuff got changed in a year or more |
| 21:45 | rkulagow_ | your includepath contradicts settings.pro? " Note: This _must not_ be your linux kernel source includes. " |
| 21:46 | rkulagow_ | or am i reading incorrectly? |
| 21:46 | dopester | it might be.. i dunno if i paid any attention to the text |
| 21:47 | dopester | yeah one of those 2 notes needs to be gone |
| 21:47 | dopester | who added that.. hrmm.. |
| 21:48 | rkulagow_ | i'm compiling now. |
| 21:49 | dopester | went in in 1.92 |
| 21:49 | dopester | dtk swore linking into the kernel was bad |
| 21:49 | dopester | chutt said he didn't know either way |
| 21:50 | dopester | the only time ive seen it be a problem is when the path is wrong |
| 21:50 | rkulagow_ | well, since i haven't installed the hardware it'll need to be tonight anyway |
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| 21:50 | Anduin | it is bad, but sometimes necessary |
| 21:50 | dopester | dtk wanted to put the dvb headers into the mythtree |
| 21:51 | dopester | but that would be very bad only cause of my atsc additions |
| 21:51 | Anduin | do they not yet have friendly userspace headers for it? |
| 21:51 | dopester | im ok with copy and set that as the dir |
| 21:51 | dopester | dont think so |
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| 22:06 | rkulagow_ | dopester: seems to have compiled fine |
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| 22:08 | dopester | good ;) |
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| 22:53 | digi | hi everyone |
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| 23:38 | pixiepaul | hey |
| 23:38 | pixiepaul | can anyone help with something |
| 23:38 | | gr8nash-home | #mythtv-users |
| 23:38 | | gr8nash-home | ill help you there if i can |
| 23:39 | pixiepaul | does anyone know how to get the sc_main.mc file that suse needs |
| 23:39 | pixiepaul | ok cheers |
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