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| 01:17 | monofilez | hi |
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| 03:34 | o_cee | btw, i'm accepting donations for a hdtv projector, so that i can make a ws-hd version of gant :D |
| 03:35 | o_cee | thinking about the panasonic pt-ae700 |
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| 03:49 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, menu looks good :) still don't like the notification you get (generally) after changing stuff (comm flag and timestretch).. or maybe that's just the titivil osd theme.. but if i had it paused, it changed the pause windows and then removed it.. should have som other container for confirming changes |
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| 07:18 | Geckofiend | hrm does the MythMusic ratings image show up for anyone else? |
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| 07:25 | Geckofiend | nm didn't turn it on in the settings. Thought it was some osrt of problem with my themes. |
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| 07:56 | Torq | I quite fancy the idea of running mythtv on solaris... |
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| 09:14 | Geckofiend | chutt: Tracking down a redraw bug in the video manager... It's not properly redrawing sections of the screen until the entire window has been invalidated... |
| 09:14 | Geckofiend | Looks like it might be something I missed with the widscreen stuff |
| 09:18 | Geckofiend | I think I found it. The VideoManager stores a FullRect that it calculates itself instead of using the functions to do it |
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| 09:31 | Geckofiend | that was it... Time to grep the rest of the tree for the same bug |
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| 09:44 | dopester | o_cee: I am also taking donations so I can watch the card I wrote drivers and myth support for, but I have yet to get a cent :) |
| 09:45 | o_cee | heh |
| 09:45 | o_cee | dang |
| 09:45 | o_cee | doesn't look good then |
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| 10:09 | dopester | yep :) |
| 10:09 | dopester | we need to setup a donate here to the devs list with each of our names and what we have contributed :) |
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| 10:28 | GreyFoxx | You don't actually have an air2pc ? :) |
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| 10:42 | _rkulagow_ | hrmm. would the new way of doing deletes be causing the issue i'm seeing with mythweb? when i delete in mythweb, the screen gets repainted, but the program that i deleted is still there. if i wait a few seconds and then click on "recorded programs" again it finally disappears. |
| 10:48 | Beirdo | That would be my first guess |
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| 11:55 | Captain_Murdo | | it's possible if mythweb is doing it's own query. if it's using the QUERY_RECORDINGS backend command then it shouldn't see the items being deleted. |
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| 11:58 | Beirdo | I think the latest version uses QUERY_RECORDINGS |
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| 12:09 | Captain_Murdo | | not sure then. The SQL query in MainServer::HandleQueryRecordings only looks for rows where deletepending = 0 so it should never list the names of programs being deleted. |
| 12:10 | _rkulagow_ | you guys talking about me, or something else? |
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| 12:13 | Beirdo | about your issue, _rkulagow_ :) |
| 12:13 | _rkulagow_ | well, in that case, i approve. :) |
| 12:13 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, menu looks good :) still don't like the notification you get (generally) after changing stuff (comm flag and timestretch).. or maybe that's just the titivil osd theme.. but if i had it paused, it changed the pause windows and then removed it.. should have som other container for confirming changes |
| 12:14 | _rkulagow_ | chutt: here? |
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| 12:24 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee: yeah, saw that in the scrollback before I left home this morning but forgot to reply later. there's a minor bug in the checkbox group code but that doesn't affect the way it's being used now. I have a 1-line fix, just need to test it. |
| 12:25 | Captain_Murdo | | _rkulagow_: did it reload the screen when you clicked the delete link? and when it reloaded the recording was still there? then you reloaded again a few seconds later and it was gone? |
| 12:26 | _rkulagow_ | captain murdoch: yep. |
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| 12:30 | Captain_Murdo | | not sure what's going on then. the deletepending flag is set before the response to the delete request is sent back to the client, so as long as the client waits to requery the recordings list until after they get the delete response back, then they shouldn't see the deleted program in the new list they receive. |
| 12:33 | Torq | is 0.17 coming out tonight? |
| 12:34 | beavis | waitwait, there are a few new strings to translate again ;) |
| 12:34 | Torq | is commit list going crazy? i unsubscribed as it was too much |
| 12:35 | Beirdo | huh? |
| 12:35 | Dibblah | Torq: Fine for me. |
| 12:35 | Beirdo | there's nothing wrong with that list that I've seen |
| 12:35 | Torq | I mean getting too many emails |
| 12:35 | Dibblah | Apart from it being almost realtime :) |
| 12:35 | Beirdo | so switch to digest mode |
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| 12:40 | Torq | erk, multi-cpu support for ffmpeg |
| 12:48 | Geckofiend | Decision time... what the hell do I call the new widescreen theme? I'm thinking of "Minimalist" it's about 90% done now: http://www.jdonavan.net/myth/wide_mode |
| 12:49 | | * Geckofiend took a day off work to get it done before .17 |
| 12:49 | GreyFoxx | heh |
| 12:50 | Beirdo | nice |
| 12:51 | Beirdo | too bad I don't have something widescreen to use it on :) |
| 12:51 | GreyFoxx | Can't wait to ge tmy projector and test it out :) |
| 12:52 | Captain_Murdo | | The font color used on the CD titles on the #10 image looks a little hard to read on some screens, or is it just me.. |
| 12:53 | Geckofiend | it's a lot smaller than my other themes, I've elininated a lot of gfx and reused stuff all over the place |
| 12:53 | Captain_Murdo | | otherwise, looks great. makes me want to run my dev box in a widescreen window when testing. :) |
| 12:53 | Geckofiend | Captain_Murdoch_ yeah, the font colors haven't been touched. those are the titivillus colors |
| 12:53 | Captain_Murdo | | ah, ok. |
| 12:54 | Geckofiend | I even made the video window in the EPG widescreen, though I'm not sure I have the right aspect ratio right now |
| 12:55 | Geckofiend | oddly enough, my widescreen is my monitor and the MBE it's connected to only does std def ATM |
| 12:55 | Chutt | yea, looks nice |
| 12:59 | Geckofiend | Chutt: release tonight or tomorrow night? |
| 12:59 | Chutt | tomorrow |
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| 13:01 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, my laptop is widescreen but neither my TV or projector are. |
| 13:02 | Captain_Murdo | | or none of my monitors. |
| 13:02 | o_cee | i'm thinking about getting either a projector or a plasma.. hmm, decisions |
| 13:03 | GreyFoxx | I'm chomping at the bit to get my projector. The room is 95% done, just waiting on my last bit of tax info from my work to submit my taxes :) |
| 13:03 | o_cee | not sure if it's a good idea to _only_ have a projector considering the lamp-costs |
| 13:04 | GreyFoxx | I've got afew TV's throughout my house, the projector is my present to myself :) |
| 13:04 | GreyFoxx | a little something for me :) |
| 13:04 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, in my case it will be mainly for movies and in a different room than our main TV viewing. |
| 13:05 | GreyFoxx | In exchange for a hassle free purchase of the projector I had to agree to buy my GF the new couch she wants which I wanted anyway heh |
| 13:05 | o_cee | :) |
| 13:08 | Chutt | i want my new couch :( |
| 13:08 | Chutt | stupid furniture store is taking 3 months |
| 13:08 | GreyFoxx | Wow, special custom order ? |
| 13:08 | Chutt | yeah |
| 13:08 | Chutt | and ordered just before the holidays and all |
| 13:09 | GreyFoxx | My father makes furniture and wood stuff, so much custom stuff either I make in his shop or he does. But the couch we want we found at sears heh |
| 13:09 | GreyFoxx | 3 months seems a little excessive though |
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| 13:12 | Chutt | well, couch, 2 chairs, ottoman |
| 13:12 | Geckofiend | I have to go get a new couch and chair. cat destroyed them both (leather). |
| 13:13 | | * Geckofiend no longer has a cat |
| 13:13 | GreyFoxx | doh |
| 13:13 | GreyFoxx | our's ignore the furniture thankfully |
| 13:14 | Geckofiend | I LOVED that couch. First couch I've ever been more than indifferent about. Of course it's not made anymore |
| 13:14 | Geckofiend | leather like butter |
| 13:14 | Torq | what did you do with the cat? |
| 13:15 | kvandivo_ | i intentionally walk by leather furniture _because_ i've got cats |
| 13:15 | Geckofiend | chinese resturant |
| 13:15 | Torq | you took your cat to a chinese restaurant? thats a novel method of cat disposal. |
| 13:15 | Geckofiend | she's now living on a farm actually |
| 13:16 | Geckofiend | time to hack up Mythweather to not download the animated maps or I'll never get this theme done. stupid dialup |
| 13:17 | kvandivo_ | while you are in there, reverse the order that it goes through the screens. current->radar->tomorrow->longTerm makes a lot more sense than current->longTerm->tomorrow->radar |
| 13:18 | Geckofiend | kvandivo_ heh I'm not making any changes that'll be checked in... though looking at the code, I can see it's due for some cleanup post .17 so I can do it then |
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| 13:30 | GreyFoxx | Cyber: Me too |
| 13:30 | GreyFoxx | oops |
| 13:30 | _rkulagow_ | chutt: what's the story on mythtv locking up a computer if it's run as root? the howto right now categorically says mythtv can't lock up your machine since it's a user-level task. there have been complaints in the mailing list though. |
| 13:31 | Chutt | realtime priority changes that |
| 13:31 | Torq | kugalow: it could potentially lock the computer up if theres a problem with realtime priority |
| 13:32 | Chutt | but that's the only way it could |
| 13:33 | Beirdo | other than very bad drivers that take down the kernel, I'd suppose, but that's hardly myth's fault |
| 13:34 | _rkulagow_ | ok, i'll update that portion of the text then. are we still discouraging running as root? what's the "problem" that realtime may cause that leads to a lockup? |
| 13:34 | _rkulagow_ | beirdo: i already mention that bad drivers could make it happen. |
| 13:34 | Beirdo | yeah, you have that one covered :) |
| 13:35 | Chutt | if something goes wrong and that realtime thread starts wanting a lot of cpu, you won't have any way to kill it |
| 13:35 | _rkulagow_ | ok |
| 13:36 | Beirdo | and if it happens to deadlock or something, that would be horriffic too |
| 13:40 | Torq | its just a deficiency of linux |
| 13:40 | Chutt | no, it's a deficiency of any os that offers real time caps |
| 13:41 | Torq | solaris has real time, but it wont bring the box down, it will kill it off if kernel threads have problems |
| 13:43 | Dibblah | So what you're saying is Solaris doesn't have realtime, then. |
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| 13:43 | Dibblah | do realtime, I mean. |
| 13:43 | Torq | yes it does |
| 13:43 | Dibblah | Riiight. |
| 13:45 | Torq | man rt_dptbl on any recent solaris box |
| 13:48 | Dibblah | So how, exactly, does the kernel "magically" decide what is a runaway thread and what is just in a tight polling loop? |
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| 13:52 | Torq | http://www.opengroup.org/rtforum/oct2000/slides/litchfield.pdf |
| 13:53 | Torq | if you have more than one processor, you can run one processor real time pri and the others normal pri |
| 13:55 | Torq | I see linux now has preemptive kernel as of 2.6.9 etc so it is getting there. |
| 13:55 | Dibblah | ... Which you can do with Linux. |
| 13:55 | Dibblah | Anyhow. This is not -dev material. Sorry to have continued it. |
| 13:56 | Torq | how the heck are you going to do realtime priority properly without preemptive kernel |
| 13:56 | o_cee | Chutt, php-nuke got rss feeds? activate that and make it the default mythnews feed ;) |
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| 14:27 | o_cee | Geckofiend, don't you need tr()'s there? in mythweather? pita to add strings this close to the rel, but since you already did |
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| 14:32 | Geckofiend | that things hasn't ever been translated before but you're right it should have trs |
| 14:33 | Geckofiend | I'll fix is since the second message is wrong anyway |
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| 14:56 | stoffel | any news about 0.17? |
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| 15:00 | Anduin | Chutt said tomorrow earlier |
| 15:01 | stoffel | ok |
| 15:02 | stoffel | anyone else having problems with view-cvs? it always says 'No change'when viewing diffs' between the most recent two versions |
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| 15:03 | stoffel | ah, seems only to happen for one-line changes. i saw it for programs/mythfrontend/mainmenu.xml |
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| 15:05 | o_cee | Geckofiend, yeah i saw they wheren't translated, so do wichever you want, might as well wait two days ;) |
| 15:06 | Anduin | it is already checked in |
| 15:06 | o_cee | yeah just noticed ;) |
| 15:07 | kvandivo | anyone else noticed commercial flagging with an error of 254? started happening in the last 2 or 3 days.. running cvs from yesterday afternoon.. updating to current as we speak |
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| 15:18 | Captain_Murdo | | kvandivo: look at the backend logs, mythcommflag probably can't be found or something |
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| 15:19 | Captain_Murdo | | actually, that might be that it can't open the file. |
| 15:20 | Captain_Murdo | | should print something in the backend logs either way. |
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| 15:25 | kvandivo | it's actually giving 2005-02-08 21:00:14.982 NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /mnt/store/nuv//1037_20050208195900_20050208210000.nuv |
| 15:25 | kvandivo | but it's a heisenbug.. other stuff flagged fine |
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| 15:32 | Captain_Murdo | | can you play the file using "mythtv /mnt/store/nuv//1037_20050208195900_20050208210000.nuv" |
| 15:32 | Captain_Murdo | | guess it's hosed if not. |
| 15:33 | Beirdo | _rkulagow_ are you around? |
| 15:33 | Captain_Murdo | | I should put back in a special case to check for the 254 result rather than just printing the number. 254 is returned in NVP::FlagCommercials when it can't open the file or it can't init the video (which shouldn't be an issue with the null driver/output) |
| 15:34 | kvandivo | hmm.. the file doesn't appear to be the right size.. |
| 15:34 | _rkulagow_ | beirdo: yes |
| 15:35 | Beirdo | OK, I was just wondering if the current docs will mention that we need to be running X at 100dpi for the themes to look right |
| 15:35 | Beirdo | I don't remember noticing it in there previously |
| 15:35 | _rkulagow_ | i don't think that's mentioned. i can check. |
| 15:36 | Beirdo | I found that out only on IRC. We may want to make mention of it somewhere. |
| 15:36 | _rkulagow_ | the problem is that every distro has a different way of starting X, and some are pretty obtuse. is there a universal place to add the 100dpi parameter? |
| 15:36 | _rkulagow_ | or just tell everyone to modify the display size in x.conf? |
| 15:36 | Beirdo | hmm. good question. |
| 15:36 | Beirdo | I use startx -- -dpi 100 |
| 15:36 | Geckofiend | display size is the universal way |
| 15:36 | Beirdo | but not many people do it that way :) |
| 15:37 | kvandivo | hmm.. interesting.. i've had about 4 recordings since feb 7, 8pm that are all between 429 and 446 megs.. which would equate to about 8 minutes of recording.. |
| 15:37 | Beirdo | Geckofiend would know the details better than I would on how to set it. :) |
| 15:37 | _rkulagow_ | i know people are using display size for 16:9 screens |
| 15:37 | kvandivo | and those 4 all failed commerical skipping, of course |
| 15:38 | _rkulagow_ | or 16-to-9 in case you just saw an emoticon show up instead of what i typed |
| 15:38 | Beirdo | heh |
| 15:40 | Geckofiend | Beirdo I set my by trial and error really. It shouldn't be hard to write a calculator for it though |
| 15:40 | Chutt | wouldn't waste too much time on things |
| 15:40 | Chutt | mythui fixes it |
| 15:41 | Beirdo | at least mentioning that you need 100dpi for now would probably help though. They can come ask us in -users on IRC how to do it |
| 15:41 | Beirdo | heh |
| 15:41 | Beirdo | when is mythui going to be rolled in, is that planned yet? |
| 15:42 | Chutt | later. |
| 15:43 | Beirdo | Ah :) Fair enough. |
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| 16:08 | Geckofiend | wonder how many users we have now? Curious what the download numbers are going to be like. |
| 16:09 | Chutt | approximately 8. |
| 16:09 | Geckofiend | heh I said "users" not "users that matter" |
| 16:10 | Chutt | i said 'approximately' |
| 16:10 | Chutt | =) |
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| 16:42 | Baylink | Well, since everyone thinks you can use MythTV to steal TV shows... Makoff is such an asshole. |
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| 16:43 | Chutt | yay, qt crap's fixed |
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| 16:59 | Chutt | two todo list items |
| 16:59 | Chutt | neither blockers |
| 17:00 | Beirdo | here's hoping :) |
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| 17:04 | Geckofiend | yay Minimalist-wide is in |
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| 17:04 | Geckofiend | 11+ hours straight without a break. I'm freaking done for a while |
| 17:05 | Chutt | i'll probably split it out for the release |
| 17:05 | Chutt | tarball's big enough as is |
| 17:06 | Geckofiend | yeah, make it a separate download. I have no idea how many wide screen folks there are to be honest |
| 17:06 | o_cee | Geckofiend :) |
| 17:06 | Geckofiend | come to think of it.. that might help give us an idea though |
| 17:07 | Geckofiend | divide total downloads by Minimalist downloads |
| 17:07 | beavis | o_cee, could you apply the german frontent stuff? |
| 17:07 | o_cee | beavis, yeah, been watching tv |
| 17:07 | beavis | thanks ;) |
| 17:07 | Chutt | geckofiend, naw, doesn't work |
| 17:08 | Chutt | just look at how many people grab a plugin |
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| 17:08 | o_cee | make a poll :P |
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| 17:09 | o_cee | beavis, patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line |
| 17:09 | o_cee | that's no good |
| 17:10 | o_cee | removed it, please send a working version |
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| 17:29 | Baylink | Is anyone special in charge of the manual cutpoint editor? |
| 17:31 | Chutt | nope |
| 17:34 | Chutt | is it busted? |
| 17:35 | Baylink | Not busted, no; but having now used it in person, I see why it occasionally frustrates my sister. :-) |
| 17:35 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:35 | Baylink | Is it possible to go into play mode while in the editor, and I've just missed the key? |
| 17:36 | Chutt | shouldn't be |
| 17:36 | Baylink | Cause, if you're trying to use it, say, to keep some commercials and drop others,and you don't know what you want to keep, then little blip of audio isn't enough. |
| 17:37 | Baylink | See my query on -users just now. |
| 17:37 | Baylink | Is there a reason why it would be difficult implementation-wise to *allow* play mode inside the editor? |
| 17:38 | Chutt | breaks a couple assumptions that are made in the editor code |
| 17:38 | Baylink | Figured maybe. |
| 17:39 | Baylink | I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier from a user viewpoint to put the mark-in and mark-out keys right up in play, and make the fancy navigation just a side-effect of pause mode. |
| 17:39 | Baylink | That approach likely to get any traction, you think? |
| 17:40 | Baylink | Pop-up the edit timeline everytime you add a cutpoint, and fade it away on a timer... |
| 17:40 | Chutt | i dunno |
| 17:40 | Chutt | that adds some extra keybindings.. |
| 17:40 | Baylink | Yeah; I know; I always forget some people use a remote. |
| 17:40 | Chutt | like me =) |
| 17:41 | Geckofiend | and me |
| 17:41 | Baylink | Yeah. If the underlying code is compatible, you could do it as an overlay. Or do a version of what it looks like now as an overlay to that. |
| 17:41 | Chutt | i'll think about it for when i (eventually) rip out + redo the pvr backend |
| 17:42 | Captain_Murdo | | you wanting to code it? If so, you could fairly easily add an option to the OSD menu to add a cutpoint going forward or backward from the current position. you can popup the OSD menu while paused. so just pause, use frame-by-frame to go to the exact frame you want then hit M to popup the OSD menu, then hit the new "Add Cutpoint to the left" or "Add cutpoint to the right" menu items. |
| 17:42 | Chutt | wouldn't be difficult |
| 17:42 | Chutt | could even just make 'pause' be 'edit mode' |
| 17:42 | Baylink | If it can be OSD'd, can it also be keybound? |
| 17:42 | Chutt | yup |
| 17:43 | Baylink | That was my thinking, yes: put the frame-jump-count on the pause screen, greyed down. |
| 17:43 | Baylink | Captain: is the code structure such that you can call add_in_cutpoint from pause() |
| 17:43 | Baylink | ? |
| 17:43 | Chutt | not right now, i don't think. |
| 17:44 | Chutt | it'd also have to deal with edit points not being matched up |
| 17:44 | Chutt | while playing |
| 17:44 | Baylink | I so want to dive in, but I'm married to *so many* code bases right now... |
| 17:44 | Baylink | Hey, wait. CM implies that you *can* set cutpoints from pause. No? |
| 17:45 | Chutt | no, i don't think you can easily |
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| 17:45 | Baylink | Captain_Murdoch_: expand? Or were you just speculating? |
| 17:45 | Captain_Murdo | | no, but the cutlist is just a QMap, so it's easy to add a point, make sure there's not another one next to it that you need to delete,, then save the new cutlist then call setdeleteiter |
| 17:45 | Chutt | that doesn't take into account matching them up |
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| 17:46 | Chutt | edit mode's special right now in that it ignores the cuts when seeking around |
| 17:46 | Baylink | Yeah. Is the cutlist togglable? |
| 17:46 | Chutt | not really |
| 17:46 | Chutt | it's _slightly_ more complicated than all that |
| 17:46 | Chutt | but the code's all in NVP.cpp |
| 17:47 | Baylink | Ok. This is hairballing. Let me write up what I think and get some user comments so I know I'm not off-base, and then I'll mail it to you. |
| 17:47 | Baylink | Will look. |
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| 17:47 | Baylink | Tnx |
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| 17:48 | Chutt | cool. |
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| 17:50 | Anduin | Baylink - an easier test play might be useful (have a definable window that you could seek back to, plays over your new point, back to editing) |
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| 17:51 | Chutt | any test mark andersen's xvmc/remove_stream patch? |
| 17:51 | Chutt | err, 'anyone' |
| 17:53 | Captain_Murdo | | don't have xvmc that I know of. |
| 17:57 | o_cee | anyone who knows a bit about apache/php stuff? |
| 17:57 | beavis | o_cee, the file's ok |
| 17:58 | o_cee | beavis, it doesn't apply |
| 17:58 | o_cee | but i'll check out the files -C just to be sure |
| 17:59 | o_cee | the patch is not fine |
| 17:59 | beavis | o_cee, absolutelly no difference when I create a new one |
| 18:00 | beavis | is it 11.993byte? |
| 18:00 | o_cee | not compressed |
| 18:01 | beavis | yes, not compressed it's 11.993 here. |
| 18:02 | beavis | o_cee, I've just tested my diff and it's ok here |
| 18:02 | beavis | strange |
| 18:03 | o_cee | worked when i unpacked it instead of using gzcat |
| 18:03 | beavis | so it's ok now\xDF |
| 18:03 | beavis | ? |
| 18:03 | o_cee | in cvs |
| 18:04 | beavis | great, thanks |
| 18:04 | o_cee | yeah |
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| 18:07 | o_cee | Chutt, did you see my filldata addition? should i make it more safe as in moving the check for empty sub-title outside the main loop (like that content tag is doing it)? |
| 18:08 | BlurredWe | is there a beginner's guide to the source of Mythtv? Something I can use to get aquainted with it? |
| 18:09 | o_cee | BlurredWe, no, not really |
| 18:09 | BlurredWe | hmm, ok then, I'll just browse it then :) |
| 18:09 | Beirdo | that would be better asked in the -users channel too :) |
| 18:09 | Beirdo | someone there may have done some doxygen for all we know :) |
| 18:09 | o_cee | BlurredWe, http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/CodingStandards there's a little bit of important info |
| 18:09 | BlurredWe | well, this is the dev channel, and I'd like to start helping, just not sure where to start |
| 18:09 | BlurredWe | thank you |
| 18:10 | | * Beirdo needs more caffeine |
| 18:11 | | * o_cee needs a HD screen so that i can motivate myself for the upcoming rewrite of the greatest.availible.nonsucking.theme. |
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| 18:14 | Beirdo | :) |
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| 18:14 | o_cee | are there any 42" plasmas with 128x720 resolution? read somewhere they haven't been able to make the plasma cells small enough yet |
| 18:15 | Torq | it is unlikely there are any with 128 pixel horizontal resolution. |
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| 18:17 | o_cee | Torq, yeah, but if you're that stupid you don't deserve any donuts. |
| 18:18 | Torq | I eat donuts every morning |
| 18:18 | Beirdo | good for ou |
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| 18:18 | Beirdo | stupid y key |
| 18:20 | o_cee | damn you bruce! |
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| 18:58 | Beirdo | OK, that's IT! |
| 18:59 | Beirdo | I hope you guys caught the bug already, I'm gonna CVS update and try, but first, I'll see if I can't get a core dump |
| 19:03 | Beirdo | every once in a while, if I abort playback, and tell it to delete, the frontend segfaults before getting back to the Watch Recordings chooser |
| 19:04 | Beirdo | now running with core dumps on, I'll see if I can catch one |
| 19:06 | o_cee | i had one like that earlier today as well, but no debug build |
| 19:07 | Beirdo | it's only happening occasionally. hopefully I catch a dump now that they are enabled. |
| 19:10 | o_cee | i didn't have "delete on playback end" active btw |
| 19:11 | Beirdo | I don't think I do either. It happens when I quit like 5min into a show and tell it to delete in the menu you get when you hit escape in the playback |
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| 19:19 | o_cee | Beirdo, haven't got that one activated either |
| 19:19 | Beirdo | ahh |
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| 19:44 | skone | I have a single channel on my mythtv box, that I am unable to receive any audio in from, but it works fine on my tv, and all my other channels seem to work too |
| 19:44 | skone | any ideas? |
| 19:44 | o_cee | skone, normally when you enter a channel, you read the topic first of all.. |
| 19:45 | skone | yea I knew that sorry |
| 19:45 | skone | i've done that 3 or 4 times |
| 19:46 | o_cee | next time all your computers belongs to us. |
| 19:46 | skone | fair enough |
| 19:47 | dopester | maybe he has a p4 i can take and sell the stuff i just got |
| 19:47 | skone | na, just a celeron |
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| 20:01 | Beirdo | come on, crash, dammit! |
| 20:02 | o_cee | give it a donut |
| 20:03 | Beirdo | heh |
| 20:07 | Geckofiend | hmmm my job options menu shows "begin transcoding" and "stop commflagging" but the show isn't comm flagging |
| 20:08 | o_cee | any opinions on removing "Start transcode" from the osd menu? |
| 20:08 | Beirdo | and moving it where? |
| 20:09 | o_cee | it's on watch recs |
| 20:09 | o_cee | the i-menu there |
| 20:10 | Beirdo | yes, that's true |
| 20:10 | o_cee | i mean, there's no "start commflag" in the osd menu.. |
| 20:10 | Beirdo | so you're debating removing it from the osd menu within playback? |
| 20:10 | o_cee | yes |
| 20:10 | Beirdo | ahh |
| 20:10 | Beirdo | I'm sure people will miss it |
| 20:11 | o_cee | i think it's silly to start playback just to start transcoding |
| 20:11 | Beirdo | I don't use that feature (transcoding) anyways |
| 20:11 | o_cee | i use it rarely (since tehre's no mpeg2 cutting) |
| 20:12 | Beirdo | I have no good use for it (lots of drive space) |
| 20:12 | o_cee | heh :) yeah need to get a couple of those |
| 20:15 | o_cee | Beirdo, got any spare hd's? :) |
| 20:16 | Beirdo | but of course, but I wouldn't subject anyone to their crappiness |
| 20:16 | Beirdo | trade you a hard drive for a Volvo P1800 :) |
| 20:17 | o_cee | hah |
| 20:17 | bomba | o_cee: what if you are done editing, then it would make sense to start transcoding from there |
| 20:17 | Beirdo | it was worth a try |
| 20:17 | bomba | or rather, just finished editing |
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| 20:35 | Chutt | hrm |
| 20:38 | o_cee | oh? |
| 20:39 | Chutt | code's more important than translations. |
| 20:39 | Chutt | so is proper operation. |
| 20:39 | o_cee | the update bruce did? |
| 20:39 | Chutt | yup |
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| 20:40 | Chutt | since lots of people ask about that |
| 20:40 | o_cee | wasn't a code change, but yeah. true, but it _would_ be nice with at least a couple of days for translators to do their thing |
| 20:40 | Chutt | <shrug> |
| 20:40 | Chutt | i really don't care |
| 20:40 | o_cee | yeah i don't really care either since i'm keeping the swedish translation up to date anyway |
| 20:41 | o_cee | but i understand that people get frustrated |
| 20:42 | Chutt | then they shouldn't worry about keeping things 100% up to date |
| 20:44 | o_cee | btw you might think about removing the .ts files from the release, main module: 3,3M total |
| 20:44 | o_cee | probably compresses pretty much, but |
| 20:44 | Chutt | then people who download that can't use them as a starting point |
| 20:44 | Chutt | if anything, i'd remove the .qm files from the release, since they can be generated. |
| 20:45 | o_cee | well that would be another way of doing it, but starting to work on a translation from the release will just cause them to re-make it with cvs |
| 20:45 | o_cee | the .qm's: 964K total |
| 20:47 | Chutt | the .ts files compress down to 250k. |
| 20:47 | o_cee | there you go, well yeah that would work, doesn't take long to generate either |
| 20:48 | Chutt | and the .qms compress down to another 250k |
| 20:49 | o_cee | either way then. but keeping the .ts's from there would force new translators to cvs since that'd be needed anyway. |
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| 20:51 | jruscio | in edit mode, is there any way to extend a cut point to the end of the recording? |
| 20:51 | o_cee | yeah, by reading the topic |
| 20:52 | jruscio | ouch |
| 20:52 | jruscio | sorry |
| 20:52 | jruscio | is there a myth-users channel? |
| 20:52 | Beirdo | read the topic! |
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| 20:52 | Beirdo | damn.. |
| 20:53 | o_cee | hm |
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| 22:04 | xris | anyone around interested in helping me track down this slave-preview-pixmap bug in mythweb? |
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| 22:08 | Beirdo | heh |
| 22:08 | Beirdo | if it were about a year ago and I still had the setup for it, I'd be all over it |
| 22:10 | xris | brad brought up some good points.. about running 2 branches. "release bugfixes" and "cvs" |
| 22:11 | xris | oops, wrong window. good suggestion, nonetheless. |
| 22:12 | Beirdo | that can prove to be a PITA though |
| 22:12 | Beirdo | I have 3 branches in my mud code, it can be a total pain |
| 22:12 | xris | yeah. esp. for someone like me who doesn't really understand cvs |
| 22:12 | xris | (cvs the program, not the idea) |
| 22:13 | Beirdo | the worst part is merging changes between branches |
| 22:13 | xris | yup |
| 22:14 | xris | I still want to play with subversion, too. |
| 22:14 | xris | but seems that it's taking a long time to catch on with the more established projects. |
| 22:14 | dopester | i just want to get qt compiled so i can see how 1080i looks on my new box |
| 22:15 | Beirdo | I haven't looked into subversion yet |
| 22:16 | dopester | i just mastered tags :) |
| 22:17 | xris | Beirdo: you should. then you can teach me. |
| 22:17 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 22:18 | xris | that's one reason I was hoping that we'd hire Jarod -- he has "subversion" on his resume. |
| 22:19 | xris | I should write something into mythweb so it cleans up its image cache directory |
| 22:19 | Beirdo | good plan :) |
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| 22:32 | xris | hmm, looks like it already has that. but I don't think it works properly |
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| 22:51 | rkulagow_ | hey, all. any discussion about delayed deletes and mythweb? |
| 22:53 | xris | rkulagow_: I can add a second or so pause after delete attempts |
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| 22:53 | rkulagow_ | xris: whatever you guys think is best. just wanted to get that out there. |
| 22:55 | dopester | rkulagow_: get it working? |
| 22:55 | xris | rkulagow_: ok, it's committed |
| 22:55 | rkulagow_ | dopester: had class tonight, and i just got home. |
| 22:56 | rkulagow_ | i think i may actually run out of PCI bus. 4xPVR-250, 1xAir2, 1x3ware RAID card. |
| 22:56 | rkulagow_ | oh, and a PVR USB2 if i ever get the driver sorted out. |
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| 22:57 | dopester | hehe |
| 22:59 | Beirdo | rkulagow_: you're worse than me :) |
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| 23:01 | rkulagow_ | bbl |
| 23:04 | Captain_Murdo | | xris: why do you have to sleep. the backend doesn't return a status from the delete request until it marks the deletepending flag in the DB. the QUERY_RECORDINGS query ignores shows with deletepending marked, so you shouldn't see those. is MythWeb not waiting for the result from the delete request? |
| 23:06 | xris | Captain_Murdoch: dunno. I've never experienced the issue. |
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| 23:06 | Captain_Murdo | | I couldn't see anything in the code that could be the cause. did he say if it was on a slave backend? |
| 23:07 | xris | mythweb sends the delete request, then redirects itself (new page load) back to the recordings page (to remove any query string and avoid issues with page reloads reposing form data) |
| 23:07 | xris | Captain_Murdoch: dunno |
| 23:07 | Captain_Murdo | | do you know if it waits until it gets the status of the delete request in the backend_command2 function? |
| 23:09 | Captain_Murdo | | dopester, got my air2pc today but probably can't play with it for a a few days, don't have any systems here running 2.6.x currently so I have to upgrade one. |
| 23:09 | dopester | ahh |
| 23:09 | dopester | dvb made me go all 2.6 :) |
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| 23:10 | xris | Captain_Murdoch: no clue. I just know that it sends the command, gets the result and then returns the result. |
| 23:10 | xris | Captain_Murdoch: do you know anything about query_filetransfer? |
| 23:11 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, I put 2.6.9-ac4 on my RH9 laptop so I've been through it once. |
| 23:11 | dopester | wow i finally can watch HD! |
| 23:11 | Captain_Murdo | | xris, hardly anything. |
| 23:11 | xris | oh well. |
| 23:11 | xris | still trying to find someone who can help me fix the slave-pixmap bug in mythweb. |
| 23:12 | Captain_Murdo | | did you get a backtrace of where it hoses up the backend? |
| 23:13 | Captain_Murdo | | is the preview pixmap being created on the slave? |
| 23:14 | xris | Captain_Murdoch: I got beyond the "hose the backend" part (that was because I was requesting a slave's file from the master)... |
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| 23:14 | xris | and yeah, the pixmap gets generated (because I send that command to the master, which echoes it to the slave) |
| 23:14 | xris | but I get timeouts when trying to read/write to/from the slave |
| 23:15 | xris | I think that I'm just doing things in the wrong order or something, but can't find anyone who can tell me what the right order is. |
| 23:15 | Captain_Murdo | | did you still have a copy of that posted somewhere? |
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| 23:20 | xris | Captain_Murdoch: the one where I try to talk to the slave? yeah |
| 23:20 | Captain_Murdo | | I wonder if the default preview pixmap offset needs to be further into the show. probably half of the episodes of one show I record have almost the same image on them because it's part of the show intro. |
| 23:21 | Captain_Murdo | | that's nothing to do with you, just noticing that in mythweb. :) |
| 23:21 | xris | I think there's a setting for it in the config somewhere. |
| 23:21 | xris | what *really* needs to happen is that the preview needs to honor the cutlist. |
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| 23:21 | xris | should pull it from like 30 seconds into the show, but ignoring any cut-out times. |
| 23:22 | xris | I just updated mythweb so that it'll regenerate pixmaps if a recording has been altered. |
| 23:22 | Captain_Murdo | | would probably have to record what frame number the preview was taken so it could recreate if the cutlist changed. |
| 23:22 | Captain_Murdo | | you mean the modifiedtime? |
| 23:22 | xris | yeah |
| 23:22 | Captain_Murdo | | cool |
| 23:22 | xris | lastmodified. meant to do that a long time ago |
| 23:22 | xris | like 3 lines of code. heh. |
| 23:22 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, forgot the name (and I even added that column I think). :) |
| 23:23 | xris | anyway, the mythbackend.php is at forevermore.net/test/mythbackend.txt |
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| 23:23 | xris | it's sort of halfway between what the code is now and what I think it should be. |
| 23:23 | xris | basically, it does what it does now, but it smart enough to query the slave instead of the master. |
| 23:24 | xris | it uses 2 sockets to communicate, and does some other messy stuff that I don't thnk it should have to do |
| 23:28 | Captain_Murdo | | can I just drop that in in place of mythbackend.php from current CVS? |
| 23:28 | xris | yeah |
| 23:28 | xris | last I checked (I forget what state I left it in), it gives you a 0byte image |
| 23:31 | xris | I'd *expect* that you only need one socket to communicate with (which would simplify things greatly and require only the single backend_command() again). |
| 23:32 | xris | but can't find someone who can tell me what to do |
| 23:32 | Chutt | need 2 |
| 23:32 | Chutt | what's recs[3]? |
| 23:32 | Chutt | positions 2 + 3 are the filesize, from a long long |
| 23:33 | Chutt | but these should all be small, i guess |
| 23:33 | Chutt | did you verify that that it's asking for the same size as the file actually is? |
| 23:34 | Chutt | other than that, i don't see anything wrong. |
| 23:34 | Captain_Murdo | | I'm getting this in the backen log with "-v network" 2005-02-09 23:34:07.559 7 0[]:[]0 |
| 23:34 | Captain_Murdo | | 2005-02-09 23:34:09.076 Couldn't find backend for: : |
| 23:34 | Captain_Murdo | | 2005-02-09 23:34:09.076 3 BAD |
| 23:34 | Captain_Murdo | | does that everytime I reload that page. |
| 23:35 | xris | hang on |
| 23:36 | xris | can you get the full query passed in that causes that snippet? |
| 23:38 | Captain_Murdo | | from where? that's all it prints. let me insert something into the php. |
| 23:38 | Chutt | why are you closing $datasocket before the gen_pixmap query? |
| 23:39 | Chutt | ah, nm |
| 23:39 | xris | Chutt: I didn't write it. I'd like to know much about that, too |
| 23:40 | xris | it doesn't make any sense to me why it closes at all. |
| 23:40 | Chutt | it's testing if it can grab that file first |
| 23:41 | Chutt | that GEN_PIXMAP query is busted |
| 23:41 | xris | the "ANN FILETRANSFER" thing. |
| 23:41 | xris | it is? it works. |
| 23:41 | xris | well, sort of. |
| 23:41 | Chutt | not for slaves |
| 23:41 | Chutt | hostname's in the wrong place |
| 23:41 | xris | what's broken about it? |
| 23:42 | Chutt | err, maybe it's ok |
| 23:43 | xris | I'm more than happy to rewrite this stuff. it looks to me like a huge mess. |
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| 23:48 | Chutt | it mostly looks right |
| 23:49 | Chutt | the major difference in the backend code is that the QUERY_FILETRANSFER is a separate connection that does a 'ANN Playback <hostname> 0' first |
| 23:50 | xris | so after the "ANN FileTransfer" it sends "ANN Playback" ? |
| 23:51 | xris | so which connection actually reads the data? the query_filetransfer or the "ann filetransfer"? |
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