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| 00:20 | Captain_Murdo | | anyone else update to cvs after the big commit? :) |
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| 00:27 | Captain_Murdo | | nevermind, committed my compilation fix anyway. couldn't find usleep so I added an include for unistd.h to mythdbcon.cpp |
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| 00:28 | Captain_Murdo | | still compiling but nothing else found weird so far. have to hit the bed anyway, will check it when I get up. |
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| 01:53 | juggler | yo |
| 01:53 | juggler | i have a reliable mythfrontend coredump when I try to watch tv |
| 01:54 | juggler | is there any way I can help debug this? |
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| 02:23 | juggler | n |
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| 06:24 | johnp_ | That big commit broke the DVB build |
| 06:24 | johnp_ | I was working on a patch this morning, but got called into work :/ |
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| 08:42 | _GeckoFiend | aaaaaaak my wallpaper is a picture of Bill Gates from teen beat magazine! |
| 08:42 | | * _GeckoFiend forgot to lock his workstation last night |
| 08:42 | dja | :) |
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| 09:22 | Anduin | are the plugin patches currently being worked on? (yes I read the thread, I'm volunteering to do one or more if someone isn't actively doing them right now) |
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| 11:25 | Captain_Murdo | | -dev post synopsis... "I'm a moron and upgraded to latest mythtv CVS and I don't follow the commit logs. Now all my plugins are broke. When are you gonna fix it?" |
| 11:28 | Anduin | In all fairness it was the last line, who reads the last line! |
| 11:28 | Captain_Murdo | | :) |
| 11:29 | Anduin | I knew it was broken when I updated, my only concern is with helping fix it if that will make it happen faster. |
| 11:30 | Captain_Murdo | | I updated just so I could test compile it to give it exposure. I only compile the plugins on my dev box if I have to touch one of them for some reason or when I compile a new "release" (aka cvs update) to put on my production boxes. |
| 11:45 | kvandivo | amazing how many bits can be sent over the ether for useless discussion |
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| 12:15 | Chutt | heh |
| 12:15 | Chutt | anduin, the plugins should be converted more quickly - they're already fairly close to what's needed. |
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| 13:24 | Anduin | Chutt - does that mean you wouldn't mind me doing it and sending it in? Or is it being done? (I have some time today) |
| 13:31 | Chutt | i believe it's being done, but, if you want to possibly duplicate effort.. :p |
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| 13:43 | Anduin | Yeah, it is the duplicate effort I was trying to save, if it isn't in by tonight then I'll risk duplication. |
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| 14:00 | Chutt | anduin, sounds good to me |
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| 14:17 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, I'm compiling the 2 dvb compile fix patches from Daniel & John right now and will commit in a few minutes if it compiles OK. |
| 14:17 | Chutt | great |
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| 14:20 | Captain_Murdo | | went to bed last night before my test compile finished and didn't get a chance to look at it this morning so I assumed it went ok when I didn't see others complain. I have been able to compile with DVB support on my dev box and just "make install" that to my air2pc slave without any problems though, so I can just keep 1 copy of the tree to save time/space. |
| 14:40 | Anduin | So MSqlQuery has no default ctor, or a ctor which takes a query, is this intentional? (It would seem having a default which just did ::InitCon wouldn't be too evil a default) |
| 14:41 | Chutt | yeah |
| 14:41 | Chutt | it was to make the conversion more obvious - ie., break all the old stuff |
| 14:42 | Chutt | it was a realy big change :( |
| 14:42 | Chutt | really, too. |
| 14:44 | Chutt | i figure once everything's fixed, we can do a big search'n'replace and move everything that does MSqlQuery(::InitCon) to just MSqlQuery() |
| 14:44 | Anduin | Yeah, it just catches the case where you weren't passing a db in anyway though right? Or might need to pass in the new query info... I guess. |
| 14:44 | Anduin | Ok. |
| 14:44 | Chutt | there's only a couple cases where we _don't_ want to grab a new connection from the pool. |
| 14:45 | Anduin | Yeah, that was what I was thinking... took a look at the first few required changes and then got confused by the fact that what I want most often isn't the default. |
| 14:46 | Anduin | No matter really, just checking. |
| 14:46 | Chutt | what'd you mean about the 'no new deps' thing the other day? |
| 14:46 | thor_ | is avalanche (sp?) working on modules, or should I start with, say, mythdvd ? |
| 14:46 | Chutt | he was going to do em, but i don't know what his schedule is like |
| 14:46 | Anduin | Chutt - maybe my too liberal interpretation of what you mean when you say no new deps. When I had looked at doing SOAP or SOAP like axis seemed the easy choice |
| 14:47 | thor_ | k |
| 14:47 | Chutt | for a new _external_ dep, it has to be available everywhere, in the default distros |
| 14:47 | Chutt | i don't have a problem integrating things into the source |
| 14:47 | Chutt | and a new build-time only dep is fine |
| 14:47 | Anduin | Chutt - yeah, I was starting to think that might be the case. |
| 14:48 | Chutt | build-time only external dep, that is |
| 14:48 | Chutt | so if it was some preprocessor or whatnot, etc.. |
| 14:48 | Chutt | if soap can be made reasonably fast, i don't see why it can't be used |
| 14:48 | Chutt | i think i'm being reasonable wrt all that |
| 14:49 | Anduin | Yeah, I don't really but into the current MythSOAP plans, I was going to extract the protocol portion and reuse that, maybe use wsdl for clients that can use it... |
| 14:49 | Anduin | er buy |
| 14:51 | Chutt | hell, it'd be nice to push the networking layer to another library |
| 14:51 | Chutt | i wouldn't have to maintain it anymore =) |
| 14:51 | Anduin | I would like a new myth protocol though, I just didn't want to encourage anyone to go away and come back with a new protocol, I'm certain more people than just me would like to have at least an opportunity to look at it beforehand. |
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| 14:57 | Chutt | apparently, i need to change my release schedule to put out a new release after every bugfix |
| 14:57 | johnp__ | don't we all :P |
| 14:57 | Chutt | 0.18's mid march, btw. |
| 14:58 | Chutt | hopefully i'll get my air2pc setup and bang on the dvb stuff myself a bit |
| 14:58 | johnp__ | BTW, I've nearly got scanwiz into some kind of shape. I'm just waiting on dopster and Jesper to ok it. |
| 14:59 | Chutt | cool. |
| 14:59 | johnp__ | less signals etc. (ahem) |
| 14:59 | _rkulagow_ | chutt: is plextor sending you one of those ConvertX boxes? |
| 14:59 | Chutt | yeah |
| 14:59 | Chutt | someone needs to send me a pvr-usb2 :p |
| 15:00 | Chutt | their stuff looks like it'll be easy to integrate |
| 15:01 | Chutt | just be using the v4l2 stuff in NuppelVideoRecorder, but it'll grab compressed frames instead of uncompressed |
| 15:02 | Chutt | so, it'll be using the .nuv format still |
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| 15:06 | Captain_Murdo | | some people will never get it... "You want people to use your neat product." no, not really, Chutt & devs are _letting_ them use it. |
| 15:07 | Captain_Murdo | | this thread is kinda funny at points. |
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| 15:09 | Wildgoose | Chutt: I think I have traced my constant segfaults to a checking done sometime on the 13th Feb |
| 15:09 | Chutt | 13th? |
| 15:09 | Wildgoose | However, looking through the list of checkins, the only thing which stands out as even vaguely possible to cause this is the scheduler.cpp change |
| 15:09 | Wildgoose | Can you please eyeball it and see if you think it could cause some bug like I am seeing? |
| 15:10 | Wildgoose | Date:13th Feb 05:35 |
| 15:10 | Chutt | sure, one sec |
| 15:10 | Wildgoose | The only other code change is the one in avformatdecoder.cpp |
| 15:10 | Chutt | but that wouldn't crash the backend |
| 15:10 | Wildgoose | Agreed |
| 15:10 | Chutt | well, it _could_, but, it's unlikely |
| 15:10 | Wildgoose | Hence, the only thing I can see is the backend/scheduler.cpp change |
| 15:11 | Wildgoose | Well, I just built from 14th and it crashes within secs |
| 15:11 | Wildgoose | On the 13th code it is up and recording right now... |
| 15:11 | Chutt | well, if you can narrow it down more.. |
| 15:11 | Wildgoose | I tried lots of other versions from 31st jan up to 14th feb before I found this bracket |
| 15:11 | Wildgoose | Can do. I will revert out that change and see if it's the one |
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| 15:11 | Chutt | jan 31st works fine, too? |
| 15:11 | Wildgoose | Will take a few hours because the evening viewing just started... |
| 15:12 | Wildgoose | Yep, everything before 14th Feb works fine |
| 15:12 | _GeckoFiend | Chutt I'll mkae a note of that change channel browse mode thing for when I'm going trhough the settings stuff on friday |
| 15:12 | Wildgoose | 14th Feb and 28th Feb both crash for me (haven't tried in between) |
| 15:12 | Chutt | geckofiend, cool |
| 15:12 | Chutt | no sense in trying in between |
| 15:12 | Wildgoose | agree |
| 15:12 | Chutt | i don't see anything obviously wrong in the scheduler.cpp change |
| 15:12 | Wildgoose | OK, next stop is to revert the change to scheduler.cpp and see what happens |
| 15:12 | Chutt | so, if you can verify that it _is_ that |
| 15:12 | Wildgoose | OK, will report back later |
| 15:12 | Wildgoose | Cheers |
| 15:12 | Chutt | cool, thanks |
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| 15:24 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, only reason I didn't make browse mode the default when I added that feature was cause I figured somebody out there wouldn't like it so I made people turn it on to use it. :) I have it on as well (for the rare time I use LiveTV). |
| 15:24 | Chutt | yup |
| 15:25 | Chutt | that's cool. |
| 15:25 | Captain_Murdo | | love that feature on my DishNetwork receiver. |
| 15:31 | _GeckoFiend | I alwasy use the program guide for changing channels myself |
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| 15:44 | thor_ | I'm just going to buy 125 PVR-250s and constantly record everything, much simpler that way |
| 15:44 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:50 | thor_ | wholy friggin avalanche, he's a machine |
| 15:51 | thor_ | holy, even |
| 15:52 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:52 | Chutt | yeah, he does good stuff |
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| 15:58 | sniffer | qwertzz |
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| 15:59 | Chutt | thor, he might not do mfd/mfe, though, i dunno |
| 15:59 | Chutt | since they're not really in use yet.. |
| 16:01 | Captain_Murdo | | thor, better to wait for support for that Plextor USB gadget then you can put them on much fewer machines using USB vs PCI. :) |
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| 16:23 | Anduin | avalanche isn't here? |
| 16:23 | Chutt | he's only got dialup |
| 16:24 | Anduin | ah, looks like a file was missed for mythdvd (dvdripbox), I'll spam -dev |
| 16:25 | Anduin | ok, more than a file |
| 16:26 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:26 | Chutt | thanks |
| 16:26 | Anduin | yeah, there is one more I missed, sending soon. |
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| 17:13 | thor_ | I'm doing mfd now |
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| 17:21 | Chutt | funky |
| 17:21 | Chutt | my work computer spontaneously rebooted itself |
| 17:21 | Chutt | and got stuck on the post screen |
| 17:25 | mikegrb | sounds like hardware, they should buy you a new one and give that to me |
| 17:26 | Chutt | hope it isn't hardware :( |
| 17:26 | Chutt | this is the "new" box |
| 17:26 | Chutt | hah |
| 17:26 | Chutt | vpn rsa key was all 9's |
| 17:27 | Chutt | that's secure |
| 17:27 | thor_ | man, the Myth Mac OSX package works amazingly well |
| 17:31 | gr8nash | anyone got a link or model number to this plextor device you guys keep talking about? |
| 17:32 | mikegrb | thor_: http://thegrebs.com/rasterbate.jpg |
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| 17:34 | thor_ | mikegrb, The requested URL /rasterbate.jpg was not found on this server. |
| 17:34 | mikegrb | :O |
| 17:34 | mikegrb | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/rasterbate.jpg |
| 17:34 | mikegrb | silly me |
| 17:34 | mikegrb | it turned out much better then I thought, and now heidi wants more of them to put up on the walls |
| 17:35 | thor_ | exceedingly cool |
| 17:35 | thor_ | gimp? |
| 17:35 | mikegrb | nah there's a website, I'll have to find the url |
| 17:35 | mikegrb | generates a pdf |
| 17:36 | Chutt | hmm |
| 17:36 | mikegrb | going to print another one then trim the white borders off and frame them with this very narrow border frames we have then hang all the frames up |
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| 17:37 | mikegrb | thor_: http://arje.net/rasterbator |
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| 17:39 | thor_ | cool |
| 17:41 | thor_ | I moved the kids to a dot mac account (http://homepage.mac.com/sigvaldason/). They just make it so easy (camera, usb, mac, click click) |
| 17:41 | mikegrb | yes |
| 17:41 | mikegrb | mac stuff in general is easy |
| 17:43 | kvandivo | easy stuff for easy.. ahh. nevermind |
| 17:43 | mikegrb | kvandivo: exactly |
| 17:43 | mikegrb | kvandivo: your mommie must have had loads of time raising you! |
| 17:43 | mikegrb | kvandivo: tell her I pitty her next time you talk to her ;) |
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| 17:48 | mikegrb | it is amazing how fast something as simple as a refregerated teething ring can bring peace to our house |
| 17:49 | gr8nash | mikegrb amen to that |
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| 17:58 | Beirdo | I'd bet a few drops of booze would too, but it's hardly the "correct" way :) |
| 17:59 | mikegrb | I'm out too |
| 17:59 | mikegrb | had a few beers last night at a poker night though ;) |
| 18:00 | johnp__ | quick UI style question for someone : In setup which is the preferred location for trigger combo boxes. Inside the pane with the controls which change (e.g videosources), or outside, (e.g capture cards) ? |
| 18:01 | johnp__ | or should I not care :) |
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| 19:03 | thor_ | anyone even understand that ASCII art? |
| 19:08 | Anduin | anyone actually run with the new db patches? (it is probably something on my end, would just like to check) |
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| 19:15 | Icemaann | damn ffmpeg wont build with pp support. libavcodec.a never has pp_get_context defined |
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| 19:18 | Chutt | anduin, i haven't yet. |
| 19:19 | Anduin | Chutt - I'm getting a column out of range message... I'm tracking it down. |
| 19:19 | Chutt | heh |
| 19:19 | Chutt | there's likely a few bugs here and there |
| 19:19 | Anduin | Yeah, currently no play... glad I checked now :) |
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| 19:25 | Anduin | just incase there was any doubt, yeah, my fault, apparently I was too quick resolving conflicts in mainserver |
| 19:25 | Chutt | ah |
| 19:25 | Chutt | i think datadirect might be busted |
| 19:26 | Chutt | but should be an easy fix |
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| 20:56 | lofi-rev | I have an Epia M10K with a PVR-350 and would like to be able to use the onboard video for a second x server, but when the X for the PVR tv-out starts it grabs control from the onboard video - any ideas? |
| 20:59 | Anduin | only the one that this might not be the best channel |
| 21:06 | lofi-rev | Anduin, I figured this would be the most likely channel with people using similar hardware |
| 21:06 | Anduin | lofi-rev - I'd try #mythtv-users, then the ivtv ml. |
| 21:09 | lofi-rev | Anduin, thanks |
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| 23:27 | linagee | what is it with strategically placed commercials in shows? soon PVRs won't work anymore. |
| 23:29 | linagee | formula is: "replace all common nouns with name brands." LOL |
| 23:29 | Beirdo | PVRs will work as long as we can record. and I'm sure you meant to be in #mythtv-users for this rant |
| 23:30 | linagee | Beirdo: oh, whoops. :) |
| 23:30 | linagee | Beirdo: what if it has some effect on the programmers though? ;-) |
| 23:30 | Beirdo | it doesn't particuarly :) |
| 23:30 | linagee | Beirdo: ??? mythtv programmers don't eat their own dogfood? |
| 23:31 | Beirdo | huh? |
| 23:31 | linagee | Beirdo: mythtv programmers don't use their own creation |
| 23:31 | linagee | ? |
| 23:31 | Beirdo | if this isn't about development issues, it's the wrong channel |
| 23:32 | Beirdo | as a general rule |
| 23:32 | linagee | Beirdo: what if it's a rant like, "microsoft windows home media edition" is the dumbest thing ever |
| 23:32 | linagee | -users? |
| 23:32 | Beirdo | certainly not here |
| 23:32 | GreyFoxx | anywhere but here |
| 23:32 | linagee | :( |
| 23:33 | linagee | i don't get it. why isn't #mythtv a general topic and #mythtv-dev or something... you see what i'm getting at. ;-) |
| 23:34 | Chutt | because this is my channel |
| 23:34 | Chutt | and i make the rules. |
| 23:35 | GreyFoxx | Sounds reasonable to me :) |
| 23:35 | Beirdo | Yup. |
| 23:36 | Beirdo | and I'm sure Chutt's heard that argument at least a hundred times. Obviously he has his reasons, so live with it :) |
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