| --- | Log | opened Thu Mar 03 00:00:02 2005 |
| 00:04 | rkulagow__ | it appears that either my devel box HD just died, or the power supply is dead. i can hear the hard drive whining it's way to rotation speed, then i hear a click, then i hear it whine up again, etc. |
| 00:04 | rkulagow__ | bugger! |
| 00:05 | dopester | thats not good |
| 00:06 | rkulagow__ | well, that blows. i guess a 6GB quantum is going to die at some point. i don't see any obvious "born on" date codes on it. |
| 00:07 | dopester | thats pre smart right? |
| 00:07 | rkulagow__ | way before, i'm sure. |
| 00:07 | rkulagow__ | i'll see if i can dig up another PS |
| 00:08 | dopester | i setup a box just to do backups to with rsync.. sounds like ya might want to do that sometime as well :) |
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| 00:11 | rkulagow__ | well, it's a throwaway box. it's just gentoo + the Air2PC, so no big loss |
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| 00:12 | dopester | still easier to rsync root back on a new drive and be ready to go :) |
| 00:12 | rkulagow__ | yeah, you're right. |
| 00:13 | dopester | i had a spare 250 left over from my software raid crashing (both 250s went while i was gone for christmas) so i needed to put it to use |
| 00:13 | dopester | got a duron from a buddy and had the rest laying around |
| 00:14 | rkulagow__ | well, this is a p3/733, so it takes forever to compile anything. |
| 00:14 | rkulagow__ | ok, i swapped the PS, and it seems to be working again. |
| 00:14 | dopester | i had to retire a p2-300 for that reason :) |
| 00:19 | rkulagow__ | so, what's the final word on path to frontend.h? |
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| 05:54 | PWD | hi all |
| 05:55 | PWD | anyone awake? |
| 05:57 | tstm | Sure. |
| 05:57 | PWD | whoohoo :-) |
| 05:58 | PWD | when i use mythtv how will the video be displayed on the tv-screen? By vga-card or by tv-card? |
| 05:59 | tstm | By the VGA-card. But this is the MythTV developement channel. For questions like that, join #mythtv-users. |
| 06:00 | PWD | sorry, won't happen again |
| 06:01 | PWD | bye bye, keep up the good work |
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| 06:03 | mtjs | instead of making a #mythtv-develop channel for developers and this channel for users ... |
| 06:04 | mtjs | no... doing like there are more developers than users... |
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| 06:04 | mtjs | and make the most convinient name for the users channel .... one souly for developers. |
| 06:04 | GeckoFiend | how about people just learn to read? |
| 06:16 | oc | GeckoFiend, whoaw, cool down, that's way to much to ask.. |
| 06:17 | tstm | I think mtjs has a point.. I think developers should rather prove to be the smarter of the two and anticipate something like this.. and thus form a mythtv developement channel with a more inner circle name. |
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| 06:22 | o_cee | wth: "This is Simon's rather grumpy autoresponder speaking." from a mail to -dev |
| 06:22 | mtjs | GeckoFiend: what about just USER FRIENDLYNESS. |
| 06:23 | mtjs | mythtv is a VERY NICE product, but the word is that the developers are a bunch of morons that will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes... |
| 06:23 | mtjs | note : not ALL developers |
| 06:25 | o_cee | mtjs, if you'd spend time in here you'd realise how many morons come in here bitching about stuff they know nothing about. |
| 06:25 | o_cee | and no, mythtv is not a product, don't forget that. |
| 06:26 | mtjs | o_cee: i understand all of that, so why don't make it #mythtv-developers and hide from those bitchers |
| 06:27 | mtjs | o_cee: if not a product, what is it ? |
| 06:27 | o_cee | mtjs, heh, i created #mythtv-users to get rid if them in the first place. |
| 06:28 | mtjs | o_cee: now you have to send them away every time... |
| 06:28 | o_cee | because people are to stupid to read, yes. |
| 06:28 | mtjs | I see more users come here and sent to #mythtv-users than discussions |
| 06:28 | o_cee | right |
| 06:28 | mtjs | o_cee: ppl are ppl... and users are stupid... so make it easy for your users. |
| 06:28 | mtjs | user friendlyness |
| 06:29 | o_cee | well why don't you start a #mythtv users channel on some other network then? |
| 06:29 | mtjs | coz that would be redicious |
| 06:29 | o_cee | just because someone wants to build a highway where your house lies, would you move your house? |
| 06:30 | o_cee | anyway. |
| 06:30 | mtjs | o_cee: i see no highway and I see no house... I see users come here and sent to mythtv-users |
| 06:31 | mtjs | and I still think mythtv is a great product :) |
| 06:31 | o_cee | so hand me my money. |
| 06:32 | mtjs | o_cee: how would you call it then ? |
| 06:32 | mtjs | a ... program ? |
| 06:32 | mtjs | o_cee: I'll sent you money if you change the channels |
| 06:33 | o_cee | it's right there on the first page of mythtv.org |
| 06:33 | mtjs | crap a project :DDD |
| 06:34 | mtjs | i stand corrected |
| 06:34 | mtjs | o_cee: how much money to change the irc channels ? |
| 06:35 | o_cee | ask Chutt, you'd probably need to buy him hmm.. a private jumbojet or soemthing. |
| 06:36 | mtjs | :D |
| 06:38 | mtjs | I have a matchbox private jumbojet, will that do ? |
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| 06:44 | mtjs | the entry in the documentation about irc is funny :))) |
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| 10:46 | @Chutt | heh |
| 10:48 | o_cee | heh? :) |
| 10:49 | mikegrb | heh. |
| 10:49 | o_cee | btw, is it possible to get the mpeg sub-frames (or whatever they're called) via nuppel or you can only get full complete frames? |
| 10:50 | @Chutt | subframes? |
| 10:50 | o_cee | can't remember what they're called, the frames that only shows the difference in movement.. |
| 10:51 | o_cee | in between the keyframes? |
| 10:51 | @Chutt | B frames? |
| 10:51 | @Chutt | kinda need to be able to get them to display things |
| 10:52 | o_cee | yeah so it's possible to grab them just as they are, they aren't merged in some way before leaving the decoder? |
| 10:52 | @Chutt | they are |
| 10:52 | @Chutt | you can't really decode them properly without previous frames |
| 10:52 | o_cee | is it possible to grab them just ast they are? |
| 10:52 | @Chutt | sure |
| 10:52 | @Chutt | it's just data |
| 10:53 | o_cee | the idea would be to use them to _remove_ moving parts of the video to remove as much moving background as possible when doing logo detection.. just an idea i had |
| 10:53 | o_cee | dunno if it'd work or not |
| 10:54 | @Chutt | oh, well, you can find moving stuff easily. |
| 10:54 | @Chutt | and unless logos aren't in the corners anymore, i don't think it'd help that much :p |
| 10:55 | @Chutt | and just looking for stuff moving wouldn't really detech transparent logos, i wouldn't think |
| 10:55 | o_cee | yeah true, just thought it would be a fast and easy way.. yeah dunno how much movementtt is going on up there |
| 10:55 | @Chutt | detect, too |
| 10:56 | o_cee | want to try to look at how much difference there is in an area over a period of time to see if i could detect the logo that way, where there is little or none difference is the logo.. |
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| 10:58 | o_cee | Chutt, you know if chanlogos in svg-format would work? does qt handle that? |
| 10:59 | @Chutt | dunno |
| 10:59 | o_cee | will need to try.. got most logos in eps, so should be able to convert.. maybe.. :) |
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| 11:12 | hadeees | Chutt, hey did you talk to these guys? (http://www.sfbg.com/39/22/cover_fcc.html) |
| 11:12 | @Chutt | no, i didn't talk to her |
| 11:12 | @Chutt | all those quotes are completely made up |
| 11:13 | Baylink | You're kidding, of course. |
| 11:13 | @Chutt | of course |
| 11:13 | Baylink | Nice piece, I thought. Course, given her job, *of course* she got the spin right. Hope the piece gets some clearance. |
| 11:13 | Dibblah | Got the spin right? You're kidding? |
| 11:14 | Baylink | You didn't like it? |
| 11:14 | Baylink | "building tv's" was, admittedly, just a bit of a stretch, but... |
| 11:14 | Dibblah | ALL I WANT is to make a high-definition copy of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, save it on a DVD, and loan it to my friend |
| 11:14 | @Chutt | what's wrong with that? |
| 11:14 | Dibblah | Dumb. |
| 11:14 | Baylink | What's wrong with that? |
| 11:14 | Baylink | (great minds :-) |
| 11:14 | @Chutt | that's the entire essense of fair use :p |
| 11:14 | Dibblah | Loan it to a friend? |
| 11:14 | Baylink | Yup. |
| 11:14 | Baylink | Perfectly legal |
| 11:14 | Dibblah | Fair use covers that? |
| 11:15 | @Chutt | of course |
| 11:15 | Dibblah | Wow. |
| 11:15 | Baylink | Just like loaning a copyrighted book or CD |
| 11:15 | Baylink | As long as *you don't have a copy* while it's on loan. |
| 11:15 | @Chutt | you can have people besides yourself over to watch movies too! |
| 11:15 | Dibblah | Which, of course, you do. |
| 11:15 | Baylink | Now you understand why we fight such an uphill battle? |
| 11:15 | Baylink | "*burn it onto a DVD* and loan it to a friend"... Oh. I see his point. |
| 11:16 | Baylink | Ok, it gets a little gray there. |
| 11:16 | @Chutt | naw |
| 11:16 | @Chutt | it's still fine |
| 11:16 | Dibblah | Doesn't apply in the UK anyway. We have no fair use rights. |
| 11:16 | hadeees | Dibblah, so its all illegal or is it legal? |
| 11:18 | Dibblah | I'm not a lawyer. I'm also not in the US. |
| 11:18 | Dibblah | In the UK, it's all illegal. |
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| 11:19 | Dibblah | Well, with music at least. |
| 11:20 | Dibblah | If you trust google answers... http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=434043 |
| 11:21 | Dibblah | Hmmm... That's interesting. We DO have an equivalent exemption. |
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| 11:39 | Dibblah | I don't see how fair use would fly when giving your copy to others. |
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| 11:49 | fith | Just to complicate things even more, in canada you can loan a CD to someone and they can make a copy (fair use), and give back the original to you. But you can't make a copy for a friend. |
| 11:49 | | * fith smacks the nearest IP lawyer... twice. |
| 11:53 | GreyFoxx | hehe |
| 12:09 | | * Beirdo waits for cyberestore to get his two air2pc cards in |
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| 12:13 | GreyFoxx | You should ship me one for a week :P |
| 12:14 | GreyFoxx | Ipicked up a 5" LCD screen last night for $14 which can easilybe convertedto take VGA inputs :) |
| 12:15 | GreyFoxx | I'm making a control console for my HT room. I'll setup buttons to dim the lights, audio, and arrow keys to manuveour myth with the screen being a clone of my video card output to the projector |
| 12:16 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, is it touch screen or one of the Playstation screens? |
| 12:17 | GreyFoxx | hadees one of the playstation ones. The Lilliput screens and other touch screens are way too expensive. And when I found a unopened playstation screen kit for $14 CDN I snagged it |
| 12:17 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, you making a second screen to display controls for mythtv? |
| 12:17 | GreyFoxx | I'll be using buttons for navigation |
| 12:17 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, thats exactly what i want to do |
| 12:17 | GreyFoxx | It's going to mirror the x output |
| 12:17 | hadeees | oh just mirror |
| 12:17 | hadeees | you should make it distinct |
| 12:18 | GreyFoxx | with arrow+select buttons and buttons to control my dimmers and audio mute+/- |
| 12:18 | hadeees | you can show alot more stuff there |
| 12:18 | GreyFoxx | That would be easy to do |
| 12:18 | GreyFoxx | Mirror myth to one screen, and a different virtual screen running a second app to control stuff which I hit a button to flip too |
| 12:18 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, showing the buttons would be but giving feed back like the lcd screen does would require extra code |
| 12:19 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, you don't even need that, mythfrontend with xinerama |
| 12:19 | GreyFoxx | hadeees: I'm aware of thaty :) |
| 12:19 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, why would you have a second control app then? |
| 12:19 | GreyFoxx | For non myth stuff? |
| 12:20 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, i guess but you can still control them from myth if you write it well |
| 12:20 | GreyFoxx | This is a HT room control box, not just a mirror of the myth screen |
| 12:21 | Beirdo | GreyFoxx: I might ship you my WinTV-D for a week :) |
| 12:21 | Beirdo | but that won't help you |
| 12:21 | GreyFoxx | Controls for heat, window covers, masking systyem for the projector, dimmer, and finally audio mute + volume control |
| 12:21 | GreyFoxx | Beirdo: heh |
| 12:22 | GreyFoxx | hadeees: I want my controls to be independant of myth. |
| 12:23 | GreyFoxx | I need to start drawing out button arrangements and the box shapes soon |
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| 12:40 | fireshade80 | Question V5A10 'tankkiller' knoppmyth user here.. pvr350 tv-out setup.. calling modprobe ivtv-fb forces the console to lock and funky garbage on the tv.. /dev/fb0 gets consumed, I'm assuming a conflict with vesafb, but vga=normal doesn't correct the problem.. any way to force ivtv-fb to use /dev/fb1 instead? |
| 12:41 | @Chutt | load another fb driver first |
| 12:41 | @Chutt | then, maybe read the topic =) |
| 12:42 | fireshade80 | whoops... sorry |
| 12:42 | fireshade80 | I tried to set vga=761 ( or ASK ) and pick a vesa mode at startup, but the same lock occurs when calling ivtv-fb |
| 12:43 | fireshade80 | The root console gets all screwy looking, garbage on the tv |
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| 12:44 | @Chutt | you have to load the other fb first |
| 12:44 | @Chutt | if that happens, ivtv-fb won't use it. |
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| 12:44 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, i can kind of see why you would want them seprate but using mythtv for a frontend for your controlls doesn't seem like that bad an idea, then mythv would be your convergence box |
| 12:45 | fireshade80 | How do I "load" another fb? I thought calling a vesa mode from console would do that |
| 12:45 | @Chutt | no. |
| 12:45 | @Chutt | same way you're loading ivtv-fb |
| 12:46 | fireshade80 | with a modprobe line? Can you give me an example of a module to call? ( fb ) |
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| 12:46 | @Chutt | nope |
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| 12:48 | GreyFoxx | hadeees: I do not want to have to navigate myth for mostof the stuff I want to control. having OSD controls to control someof itis a possibility, but I want the controls to be as independant of the visual display in mostcases. Anything I want echoed the screen I'll use mythtvosd to send OSD updates |
| 12:48 | GreyFoxx | But I do see your point though |
| 12:48 | hadeees | Chutt, i am kind of curious about your views on if Mythtv can make the transition to HDTV with all the new stuff going on that seems to get in the way, i mean i know there are cards out there already for hdtv but they won't be legal for long and that still doesn't give you access to cable |
| 12:49 | GreyFoxx | and damn that lack of spacing and punctuation looked horrible :) |
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| 12:50 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, how about making something for mythtv that lets people write buttons for other apps to be execuded? |
| 12:50 | GreyFoxx | Are you referring to "virtual" on screen buttons? Or physical buttons? |
| 12:51 | hadeees | i mean that kind of how dvd playing works but something alittle more integrated so there is constant communication |
| 12:51 | hadeees | virtual |
| 12:51 | GreyFoxx | I've been referring to physical buttons I'm putting in this thing :) |
| 12:51 | hadeees | ah, so the screen will display via mythtv? |
| 12:52 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, i was thinking about trying to get one of the screens you have into a box like this, http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/touchscreen_display.htm |
| 12:53 | GreyFoxx | Lets backup and I'll describe again. Myth is up and running and display via dvi to my projector, a "copy/clone" of said display with be connected via VGA to my little 5" screen in this control box. I will have a limited set of controls in this box that will cause events to occur in myth. Be it arrow navigation or select |
| 12:53 | hadeees | although thats a touch screen, however its only $300 |
| 12:54 | GreyFoxx | so I can navigate myth without turning on the projector,plus flip to an alternate screen to use a control app I will write to control x10 and IR based devices within the room |
| 12:54 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, hehe i got that part, i want to do that same thing but something better then just a clone of the display on the tv |
| 12:54 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, i got you, but the second screen should not display TV or games or dvd etc |
| 12:54 | hadeees | otherwise i think it would look alittle strange |
| 12:55 | GreyFoxx | The second screen will display whatever I want it to :) |
| 12:55 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, mind you i am not telling what to do, just want i want |
| 12:55 | GreyFoxx | Which will likelybe a menu of controls for various items in the room |
| 12:55 | GreyFoxx | This second screen with have absolutely 0 to do with the myth screen still running over the projector |
| 12:56 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, thats what i want but i also want mythtv to display cool things on the second screen, like mabey a tv guide browser, weather, music viz |
| 12:56 | GreyFoxx | and maybe I'll set that second screen to auto flip through some photos like a automated picture frame during idle times if its being displayed |
| 12:57 | GreyFoxx | hadeees: Then break out vim and gcc son, and getcoding :) |
| 12:57 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, i am so rusty at C and C++, i have been trying |
| 12:57 | hadeees | i am a java coder though, java, php, perl etc |
| 12:58 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, the worst part about it is that i really could do coding i just need to get ramped up on mythtv stuff and I suck at learning via reading code |
| 13:00 | GreyFoxx | Hrm, the more I think about the more I like having alternate screens. screen0 = clone of myth output, screen = room controls with a rotating image/photo during idle times , screen 3 = whatever else I can think of I want on there. |
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| 13:17 | hadeees | GreyFoxx, you should keep it simple, one screen but you can change what it shows |
| 13:18 | hadeees | on the avs forum i saw a guy to put touch screens in his wall, it looks really intresting but i belive was using windowx |
| 13:18 | hadeees | s |
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| 13:22 | GreyFoxx | I'm not too worried about simple. I'll be the almost sole user of it :) |
| 13:23 | GreyFoxx | Even if I just keep it to 3 screens. 1 myth, 1 control app, and 1 photo gallery |
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| 16:16 | cursor | oops :-) |
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| 16:34 | FatDarrel | GreyFoxx: why do you call yourself GreyFoxx is it somethign out of Metal Gear Solid ? |
| 16:34 | kvandivo | is that the pot calling the kettle black? |
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| 16:52 | mikegrb | kvandivo: nah, FatDarrel is a fat guy named darrel |
| 16:54 | FatDarrel | sandwhich |
| 16:54 | FatDarrel | search for it |
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| 20:39 | darkfrog | I think I may have found a bug in MythTV or at least a problem with my setup as it is. For some reason the "External Channel Change" command refuses to execute the script I tell it to. The script works fine outside of Myth but never executes inside. |
| 20:39 | darkfrog | How can I verify the authenticity of this bug before submitting it? |
| 20:40 | cmorgan | how are you running the external program? |
| 20:40 | cmorgan | who owns it? |
| 20:40 | darkfrog | cmorgan, I can execute it as my 'mythtv' user from Terminal and that is the same user that is running both front and backends |
| 20:41 | cmorgan | darkfrog: are you giving it the correct path to your file? the full path? |
| 20:42 | cmorgan | mythtv should verify if the file exists and if it is executable after the user puts it in |
| 20:42 | cmorgan | might be a good patch |
| 20:44 | darkfrog | yeah |
| 20:44 | darkfrog | cmorgan, the script was owned by root and I changed it to my mythtv user and rebooted to see if that fixes it. |
| 20:44 | cmorgan | dude |
| 20:44 | cmorgan | there is no need to reboot, ever |
| 20:44 | cmorgan | well, not ever |
| 20:45 | cmorgan | but certainly not after changing permissions |
| 20:45 | darkfrog | cmorgan, but why would I be able to execute the script as user "mythtv" in terminal though if that is causing Myth to not be able to execute it? |
| 20:45 | cmorgan | no idea |
| 20:45 | cmorgan | but i can imagine that your path may not be correct |
| 20:45 | darkfrog | cmorgan, hehe, well the tutorial I was reading said to reboot after you change anything in mythtvsetup, so I was just following what I was told. ;) |
| 20:47 | cmorgan | really? |
| 20:47 | cmorgan | thats nuts |
| 20:48 | cmorgan | Chutt: you think a patch to verify the script would be worthwhile? |
| 20:52 | darkfrog | cmorgan, now it's really wierd - I send something like "222" and only one 2 makes it (sometimes). But I can pass 222 at command-line and it works exactly as it should. If I do 34 or something it doesn't even try. |
| 20:52 | cmorgan | which script are you runningZ? |
| 20:53 | darkfrog | "/usr/local/bin/change_chan.sh" from www.lircsetup.com |
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| 20:54 | cmorgan | hmm |
| 20:54 | cmorgan | how are you sending 222? by pressing 222 on the keyboard and seeing myth trying to go to chan 222? |
| 20:55 | darkfrog | cmorgan, the tutorial says this seems to be a common problem almost explicitly for Dish Network users but the writer doesn't know how to fix it. |
| 20:55 | cmorgan | ahh |
| 20:55 | cmorgan | its pretty easy |
| 20:55 | darkfrog | cmorgan, on my remote - myth shows that it is going to the channel but the actual channel either doesn't change or changes to a channel it shouldn't. |
| 20:55 | cmorgan | yeah |
| 20:55 | cmorgan | how long is your sleep duration in the channel change script? |
| 20:56 | cmorgan | and are you using the JVC_RAW controller? |
| 20:56 | darkfrog | cmorgan, 0.4 |
| 20:56 | darkfrog | cmorgan, no, the 3100 |
| 20:57 | cmorgan | make the delay 1 second |
| 20:57 | cmorgan | and see if that fixes it |
| 20:57 | darkfrog | okay, but why would it work correctly at command-line but not in Myth? |
| 20:57 | darkfrog | what do I need to restart after I make that change? |
| 20:57 | darkfrog | or do I? |
| 20:58 | cmorgan | you don't have to restart |
| 20:58 | cmorgan | just change it and try it again |
| 20:59 | darkfrog | it's not changing anything now. |
| 21:00 | cmorgan | you didn't change the owner of the script by editing it? |
| 21:00 | cmorgan | put it back and see that it works again and then split the difference and see if that works |
| 21:02 | darkfrog | cmorgan, no, in fact I can change it to 0.2 and it still works fine at command-line. |
| 21:02 | darkfrog | cmorgan, I wrote a script to just write the date to a log file when it's executed to verify that mythtv was working and it didn't even call it... |
| 21:02 | darkfrog | actually, now that I changed the owner I should check that again. |
| 21:06 | darkfrog | I just ran mythbackend and mythfrontend as root and it didn't make any difference, so that should rule out permissions |
| 21:06 | darkfrog | the log says that the external script ran and exited without error, but there's no way it's actually running. |
| 21:07 | cmorgan | for your program put 'sh /full/path/here' and see if that works |
| 21:09 | darkfrog | cmorgan, okay - the myth box is in the living room and I'm in my office to get online (somehow my internet connection on the mythbox is down because I accidentally removed some packages that were necessary). :) |
| 21:09 | darkfrog | ...that's why there is such a long delay. ;) |
| 21:09 | cmorgan | ahh |
| 21:09 | cmorgan | you should fix your net connection so you can test more easily :-) |
| 21:14 | darkfrog | hehe, I don't know how. :o I have a friend going to call me tonight to help me fix it. |
| 21:14 | darkfrog | (just a linux noob muddling my way through to enlightenment) |
| 21:15 | darkfrog | cmorgan, no that didn't work either - still giving the same problem |
| 21:15 | cmorgan | hmm |
| 21:15 | darkfrog | cmorgan, it's wierd though because I can type "200" and it does get a "0", but that's all |
| 21:15 | darkfrog | ...and only sometimes |
| 21:15 | darkfrog | cmorgan, no matter what else I type it doesn't work. |
| 21:15 | darkfrog | cmorgan, command-line the script works perfectly though. |
| 21:16 | cmorgan | very odd man |
| 21:17 | darkfrog | I know...I just don't understand it |
| 21:17 | darkfrog | it must be something wrong with myth |
| 21:20 | cmorgan | sorry i can't help, maybe someone in #mythtv-users can help though |
| 21:20 | darkfrog | cmorgan, I couldn't get anyone to even say anything in there earlier. |
| 21:21 | darkfrog | cmorgan, it's cool though, I know this room isn't for configuration fixing |
| 21:21 | darkfrog | cmorgan, I believe it's a MythTV bug though (but what do I know) :) |
| 21:39 | darkfrog | cmorgan, dude, I figured it out! |
| 21:39 | darkfrog | cmorgan, it is a bug...sort of. :) |
| 21:41 | cmorgan | ha |
| 21:41 | cmorgan | explain? |
| 21:41 | darkfrog | cmorgan, it's a problem with process priority - if I "renice -15" the process then it works perfect! |
| 21:41 | cmorgan | uh |
| 21:41 | cmorgan | that seems very very odd |
| 21:41 | darkfrog | cmorgan, myth is causing delays to occur to the command isn't sent real-time |
| 21:42 | darkfrog | cmorgan, I found another web site that explains how to configure an IR Blaster and it mentions this as a possible problem for missing digits, but mine is causing it to miss all of them nearly all the time. |
| 21:43 | darkfrog | cmorgan, I believe this also explains why it's a Dish Network only problem! Dish must require the sequences to come repetitively within a very short amount of time or it disregards it as garbage. |
| 21:44 | cmorgan | oh |
| 21:44 | cmorgan | so maybe it is an lircd issue then |
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| 21:48 | darkfrog | actually, I guess it does make sense, but because mythfrontend is running at the same time, myth processes are interfering with it. |
| 21:56 | cmorgan | what kind of ir blaster are you using? |
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| 21:59 | darkfrog | cmorgan, irblaster.info |
| 22:00 | cmorgan | hmm |
| 22:00 | cmorgan | i've got a serial port home made one and it never seems to have trouble |
| 22:00 | cmorgan | 2.6.3 kernel, 0.7 series lircd i think |
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| 22:04 | darkfrog | cmorgan, same with mine - what receiver? |
| 22:04 | cmorgan | dish networks one |
| 22:05 | cmorgan | so i'm surprised you aren't using the jvc_raw one |
| 22:05 | darkfrog | cmorgan, the 301? |
| 22:05 | cmorgan | uh |
| 22:05 | cmorgan | its black, maybe an inch thick |
| 22:06 | darkfrog | cmorgan, does it say 301 on the front left? |
| 22:06 | cmorgan | no idea man |
| 22:06 | darkfrog | hehe |
| 22:06 | cmorgan | its nothing fancy |
| 22:06 | darkfrog | cmorgan, I think we've got different models |
| 22:06 | cmorgan | i don't recall any letters on it |
| 22:07 | darkfrog | cmorgan, don't suppose you know how to set LIRCD to start up niced to 15? The only way I've been able to make it work so far is by "renice -15 PID" after startup. |
| 22:08 | cmorgan | how do you normally start it up? |
| 22:08 | darkfrog | it's a service |
| 22:08 | darkfrog | oh wait...no it's not |
| 22:08 | cmorgan | so its in /etc/init.d/ ? |
| 22:08 | darkfrog | I killed the service - I think I know how to fix it... nm :o |
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| 23:01 | fatmatt | heyas |
| 23:03 | fatmatt | got a quick question about how the mythtv database works in regard to digital tuners. found a post on the list that said dvb_channel and dvb_pids aren't used anymore |
| 23:07 | dopester | then ask |
| 23:07 | dopester | might be a -users question though |
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| 23:13 | fatmatt | how is the information in the channel table linked to the dtv_multiplex table. I'm getting no pid errors but I've run mythtv-setup over and over and the channels and dvt_multiplex tables fill up but still the error. |
| 23:18 | bobc | I've just tried twice to compile the latest cvs and gotten the following error:customrecord.cpp: In member function `bool CustomRecord::checkSyntax()': |
| 23:18 | bobc | customrecord.cpp:292: no matching function for call to `MSqlQuery::executedQuery()' |
| 23:18 | bobc | make[2]: *** [customrecord.o] Error 1 |
| 23:18 | bobc | any ideas or is it -users question? |
| 23:18 | bobc | could it be a qt3.1 problem? |
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| 23:20 | @Chutt | yes |
| 23:20 | bobc | thanks |
| 23:21 | @Chutt | (to the qt3.1 thing) |
| 23:21 | bobc | that's what I figured |
| 23:25 | @Chutt | i'll have that fixed in a sec. |
| 23:27 | @Chutt | there, that error's gone now. |
| 23:28 | bobc | thanks! damn your good! |
| 23:29 | dopester | chutts on top of things :) |
| 23:29 | @Chutt | aside from applying patches |
| 23:29 | bobc | someday I'll have to bite the bullet and upgrade qt though |
| 23:29 | @Chutt | it's probably a good idea :p |
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