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01:33 | rkulagow__ | dopester: here? |
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02:59 | anxt | wow myth rawqz |
02:59 | anxt | hello #myth |
03:00 | anxt | took me a while to massage it all into working good |
03:00 | anxt | then i did a mysqldump |
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05:44 | pa8 | hello |
05:45 | pa8 | has anyone installed MythTV using Jarod Wilson's tutorial? |
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06:22 | Geckofiend | pa8 /topic |
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09:06 | dopester | rkulagow: here now? |
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09:32 | _rkulagow_ | dopester: here? |
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12:16 | _rkulagow_ | chutt: here? |
12:23 | Chutt | ya |
12:23 | _rkulagow_ | docs sync please. |
12:24 | Chutt | ok |
12:24 | _rkulagow_ | thanks |
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12:25 | Chutt | done |
12:34 | hadees | is mythtv.info really moving to mythtv.org? |
12:36 | Chutt | yes |
12:37 | Chutt | if certain people get off their asses and start moving things |
12:49 | hadees | Chutt, hehe, hey when you took the vis from xmms did you convert them to qt? |
12:49 | hadees | some of the vis i have been fooling around with recently are gtk but i know it is a bad idea to keep them that way |
12:49 | hadees | if mythmusic is to use themj |
12:51 | Chutt | i don't think i took any directly from xmms |
12:51 | Chutt | fairly sure they were all available as standalone versions |
12:51 | hadees | Chutt, i thought you converted some xmms |
12:51 | hadees | hmm |
12:53 | Chutt | if i did, i wouldn't have bothered converting from gtk |
12:54 | Chutt | most of that crap was only for config interfaces, which don't exist, so that code could just be cut out |
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12:55 | hadees | Chutt, intresting, so you have no problem with me adding a vis with gtk? |
12:55 | hadees | the vis just start a new window right |
12:55 | Chutt | hell no |
12:55 | Chutt | no gtk |
12:55 | Chutt | no new windows |
12:55 | hadees | hehe okay |
12:55 | hadees | well i figured out how to access the winamp dlls |
12:56 | hadees | i just need to get mythtv to use it somehow |
12:56 | hadees | the xmms plugin though that does it is in gtk... |
13:00 | Chutt | it's using gtk for non-graphical stuff? |
13:05 | hadees | Chutt, no its more of a pass between from the winamp vis api to xmms vis api |
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13:05 | hadees | i think i can just use one of the existing vis in mythtv and just cut out he xmms stuff |
13:06 | hadees | it should be cool but stablity might be a problem |
13:06 | hadees | not all winamp vis will work |
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13:33 | Blafasel123 | Hello |
13:33 | Blafasel123 | Anybody here? |
13:35 | Blafasel123 | Is there a list with known bugs for the 0.17 release? |
13:36 | kvandivo | you can browse the mailing lists to ascertain that information, and note the topic of this channel |
13:37 | Blafasel123 | Blafasel123: I think I found a bug and just want to confirm if it is not known right now. Is this not the right please to discus about it? |
13:37 | kvandivo | mailing list is your best bet |
13:39 | Blafasel123 | Should I post the bug to the user or dev list? |
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14:28 | o_cee | BleedAway, there's a bugzilla as well |
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14:32 | hadees | o_cee, does that get used? it seems sort of hidden |
14:32 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch, hasn't #249 been fixed by you? |
14:32 | o_cee | i don't get many bugs assigned to me, so i don't use it that much |
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14:34 | LedHed | anyone know if MythLCD is working in 0.17? I've been told that it may be borked? |
14:35 | o_cee | isn't lcd support built into myth? what's mythlcd? |
14:35 | hadees | LedHed, bah i said last resort |
14:36 | hadees | o_cee, yeah but the stuff is called mythlcd |
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14:36 | hadees | o_cee, and it is an option |
14:36 | LedHed | hadees: I didnt ask him directly |
14:36 | o_cee | ah, no idea |
14:36 | hadees | LedHed, hehe yeah but this channel isn't for support questions |
14:36 | hadees | LedHed, just trying to warn you |
14:36 | mBob | ive just seen a suggestion of a pop3 client built into mythtv(to go with mythweb maybe) - just a suggestion |
14:36 | LedHed | I'm not really looking for support just a simple yes or no. |
14:37 | o_cee | mBob, that'll be fun, you know where to send the code! |
14:37 | LedHed | a myth Screensaver would be cool too (not the x screensaver) |
14:37 | hadees | LedHed, semantics |
14:37 | LedHed | ?? |
14:37 | hadees | this channel is for talking about development like I coded this, its not compiling |
14:37 | hadees | etc |
14:38 | hadees | LedHed, there is one kind of the screen goes off after a certain time |
14:38 | mBob | o_cee - i wouldn't use it, and cant code. i just saw it as a suggestion so i thought i'd come mention it in here |
14:38 | shadash | hadees are you working on visualizations |
14:38 | o_cee | mBob, this isn't a suggestion channel.. but ok. |
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14:38 | LedHed | laterz |
14:38 | shadash | I want more vis but need a quick intro |
14:39 | shadash | if it's being worked on I'll just wait |
14:39 | hadees | mBob, its not a really good one, you first need a keyboard and why wouldn't you just use a computer |
14:39 | hadees | shadash, i am kind of working on one |
14:39 | hadees | i am working more on a vis that lets you use winamp vis |
14:40 | hadees | thus making a shitload of vis able to work with mythmusic |
14:40 | LedHed | a MythMail add-on would be ok, but I'd never use it. No keyboard attached... |
14:40 | mBob | hadees - fair enough, although it would be useful for a 'do all' box for the tv |
14:40 | mBob | some people might use it with a wireless keyboard though |
14:40 | shadash | hadees: nice, that's more then I was thinking |
14:40 | hadees | mBob, make you toast? you are way out on the extreme, there are other things like mabey home automation support that would be better first |
14:41 | hadees | shadash, your welcome to help i am not exactly a master at this yet myself |
14:41 | mBob | hadees - i didn't come in here to push the idea, just to suggest it, mythtv is already on the way to being a do all box, with mythphone and mythweb |
14:41 | LedHed | I'm going to try to make ReplayTV's a possible frontend for Myth |
14:42 | mBob | although home automation support would be _cool_ |
14:42 | mBob | tell me when its in cvs ;) |
14:42 | hadees | mBob, yeah but mythpone is easy and mythweb isn't a myth module it is a web client ot access myth data |
14:42 | LedHed | only requires a simple script to take Myth Show info from the DB and export it to XML |
14:42 | hadees | LedHed, why though if you have replay tv why would you also have a mythtv box? |
14:43 | hadees | or the other way around |
14:43 | LedHed | lots of reasons. |
14:43 | LedHed | Storage, Video Quality |
14:43 | LedHed | the ReplayTV's have way better Video Quality |
14:43 | hadees | LedHed, eh your also thinking on the edge thats like the random stuff that gets done after mythtv is rock stable and has really good core plugins |
14:44 | hadees | LedHed, video out? or video in because if you record with a mythtv box the video quality can't be improved |
14:44 | LedHed | hadees: I can already do it. I just need to make it automated |
14:44 | LedHed | hadees: Video out |
14:44 | LedHed | the PVR-250 does a fine job recording |
14:44 | shadash | hadees: send me an email |
14:44 | hadees | shadash, http://www.emulinks.de/xmms-winamp/ |
14:45 | hadees | shadash, whats your email? |
14:45 | NightMonkey | LedHed: Well, then you need the 350 to do a proper comparison. |
14:45 | LedHed | NightMonkey: I have one |
14:45 | LedHed | replayTV's are still better |
14:45 | hadees | NightMonkey, 350 isn't a good choice in my opion because you need to encode anything thats not in mpeg2 into mpeg2 or it won't display |
14:45 | hadees | alot of extra work if you want to play a divx file or somthing |
14:46 | LedHed | ReaplyTV is the same way. It only plays mpeg2 |
14:46 | LedHed | I dont need divx, I just buy more storage space |
14:46 | NightMonkey | LedHed: Huh. Well, I'm off to Google that one. |
14:46 | hadees | LedHed, you don't always have a choice of what files you want to view |
14:47 | hadees | true recordings are all mpeg2 |
14:47 | o_cee | and this is relevant to myth development how? |
14:47 | LedHed | its not |
14:47 | LedHed | sorry |
14:47 | shadash | hadees: shadn(at)visualmediatech()com |
14:47 | hadees | o_cee, sorry i guess i lost site |
14:47 | hadees | sight |
14:48 | shadash | hadees: send me an email about where you are and I'll try to work with you |
14:48 | LedHed | it started out as a way to get ReplayTV's to play myth recordings, but soon went to video quality comparisons... |
14:48 | hadees | shadash, cool i am still at the start but there isn't really a whole lot to do in theory but it will be nice to bounce ideas off someone |
14:49 | hadees | shadash, whats your programing knowledge? |
14:49 | shadash | agreed |
14:49 | shadash | <--- hacker can do most scripting lang + read through c |
14:50 | LedHed | shadash: when will a VMC ISO ba available with the Whitebox distro? |
14:50 | hadees | shadash, k the stuff is mostly simple c |
14:50 | hadees | c++ |
14:50 | shadash | LedHed: I'm downloading the iso's from centos as we speak |
14:50 | shadash | I have all the scripts to build that done already |
14:51 | LedHed | shadash: cool, I look forward to trying it out. I have a fresh Frontend waiting for a distro to install |
14:52 | LedHed | shadash: when you compile Myth add in MythLCD |
14:52 | shadash | LedHed: /join #VMT ;-) |
14:52 | LedHed | already there |
14:52 | LedHed | you arent |
14:53 | LedHed | :) |
14:55 | Chutt | yay, yet another lame distro |
14:56 | LedHed | why are so many people down on myth distros? |
14:56 | Chutt | because there's enough of them already. |
14:56 | Chutt | more useful things happen when contributing to existing projects rather than starting another. |
14:57 | LedHed | I think his goal is just to make it easier for people to install Myth. |
14:57 | Chutt | he's going about it rather poorly, imo. |
14:57 | shadash | well I started mine because I like the anaconda installer |
14:58 | LedHed | I've installed myth using his distro, it was the fastest way to setup a fronted. |
14:58 | LedHed | still needs work though |
14:58 | Chutt | knoppmyth isn't? |
14:58 | shadash | doesn't have xorg |
14:58 | Chutt | so? |
14:58 | LedHed | knoppmyth has never worked well for me |
14:58 | Chutt | doesn't get you anything myth needs. |
14:59 | Chutt | or even wants optionally |
14:59 | shadash | isn't as easy to set up in my opinion |
14:59 | Chutt | setup's near identical. |
15:00 | shadash | semantics, ***shrug*** everyones got what they like |
15:00 | shadash | I like RH been using it since 98 |
15:01 | Chutt | wow, that's really long |
15:01 | shadash | well I'm not going down that road |
15:02 | Chutt | you're the one that brought it up |
15:02 | shadash | ** cough ** aix before that |
15:02 | Chutt | same with xorg |
15:02 | Chutt | you brought it up as a reason to now use knoppmyth |
15:02 | shadash | well to be honest |
15:03 | shadash | I don't like the grey crosshatch in xfree86 |
15:03 | shadash | when it first comes up |
15:03 | Chutt | uh, so run xsetroot first |
15:03 | shadash | in Xorg you can make it black |
15:06 | | * Beirdo shakes his head. some people |
15:08 | | * LedHed thinks "Beirdo slaps people with fish also" |
15:08 | LedHed | :) |
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15:17 | hadees | Chutt, if you really wanted to stop them just offically saction one of them and give them a page on mythtv.org |
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15:17 | Chutt | hadees, why would i want to stop them? |
15:17 | Chutt | if they don't want to contribute usefully, that's their choice |
15:17 | Chutt | i think it's dumb, but, whatever |
15:18 | hadees | eh but if you supported one of them then most likely new devs would choose to submit to that one |
15:18 | hadees | Chutt, i am not saying you have to do anything but pick which one you think is the best |
15:18 | Chutt | i've already got the decent ones linked to from the website |
15:22 | shadash | hadees: picking one over another = flamewar |
15:22 | hadees | Chutt, do you know if any of the vis plugins you put into mythmusic were also a xmms plugin? i know you said they were standalone but alot of the time people code them a couple ways |
15:23 | shadash | being more supportive is all I ask for |
15:23 | hadees | shadash, Chutt rules mythtv, who cares |
15:23 | hadees | plus what the distros all want is just easy setup of mythtv, you don't need a distro for that |
15:23 | Chutt | hadees, i really don't remember |
15:23 | Chutt | i think the bumpscope was |
15:24 | Chutt | i may have based the goom interface off of the xmms plugin, but it's been quite a while. |
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15:25 | Chutt | shadash, i'm supportive of people that i think are doing something useful |
15:25 | hadees | Chutt, cool one quick question though this won't come into play till the end but one aspect of winamp plugins is they have a configuration window that pops up to configure aspects of it. I am sort of unsure how to let a mythtv user access this |
15:25 | Chutt | don't =) |
15:25 | Chutt | just pick reasonable defaults and hardcode em |
15:25 | hadees | Chutt, well its diffrent for each plugin |
15:26 | Chutt | right |
15:26 | Chutt | same answer. |
15:26 | shadash | unfotunatly I |
15:26 | shadash | I'm too far in to stop now :-( |
15:26 | kvandivo | don't throw good money after bad |
15:26 | hadees | Chutt, okay i was hoping to let people just go to winamp.com and pick what they want |
15:27 | Chutt | stuff should have reasonable defaults |
15:27 | Chutt | you can't really pop up some random config window :p |
15:27 | hadees | Chutt, yeah i know that, i was thinking mabey mythsetup or something |
15:27 | LedHed | shadash: keep up the good work. n00bs appreciate it |
15:28 | hadees | or have the configure window display as the mythtv configs |
15:28 | hadees | anyway the first part is getting the vis to play first, this is all kind of finishing touches |
15:29 | hadees | shadash, you get my email? |
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15:30 | Chutt | hadees, what are you going to do about fft data? |
15:32 | hadees | Chutt, not sure, right now I just want to make sure i can access the dll functions |
15:32 | shadash | hadees, I like your idea except that it adds wine as a dependency |
15:33 | hadees | shadash, well winelib |
15:33 | hadees | and not a huge deal |
15:33 | shadash | ends justify the means though |
15:33 | hadees | shadash, you arn't running wine your just access the dll |
15:34 | shadash | understand |
15:34 | Chutt | the ends certainly don't justify the means |
15:34 | Chutt | i'll reject bad code, regardless of what it does. |
15:34 | hadees | Chutt, hehe any suggestions on fft? |
15:36 | Chutt | is it still part of the winamp api? |
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15:40 | shadash | Chutt, are you focused on adding specific visualizations rather than hadees idea |
15:40 | hadees | Chutt, i am not 100% i am still learning how the plugin works, right now all i can tell is that xmms is rendering data gathered from the dll |
15:41 | hadees | so i don't know if it is doing the calc on the data first inside the dll |
15:41 | Chutt | i'm not focused on adding any visualizations |
15:41 | hadees | or if the data being passed is just audio or whatever that needs to have calc |
15:41 | Chutt | hadees, last i checked (many years ago), the winamp api had hooks to pass in raw audio data and fft data |
15:42 | thor_ | xmms api has the same thing |
15:42 | Chutt | mythmusic only provides raw pcm |
15:42 | Chutt | no fft. |
15:42 | Chutt | so that's something you'd have to add. |
15:42 | hadees | Chutt, how do the other vis do that? |
15:42 | LedHed | Chutt: is mythLCD broken in 0.17? I checked the Mailing List but couldnt find an answer.. |
15:42 | Chutt | do what? |
15:42 | hadees | they each have their own? |
15:43 | Chutt | ledhed, i don't use it. |
15:43 | LedHed | thanks |
15:43 | Chutt | i haven't received any reports of it being broken |
15:43 | thor_ | it is not broken |
15:43 | Chutt | so either no one uses it, or it isn't. |
15:43 | LedHed | thor_: thanks |
15:43 | | * o_cee waves at thor, hi! :) |
15:43 | thor_ | yup |
15:43 | Chutt | hadees, err, no. none of them use the fft data, except the spectroscope, and that generates its own |
15:44 | hadees | Chutt, hmm really? i though you needed to convert it to some data |
15:44 | o_cee | got an idea for closing screens in mythui and opengl.. like, dissolve the screen into a cloud fading/blowing away... heheheh... |
15:44 | Chutt | hadees, you really don't know much about audio, do you? :p |
15:44 | | * thor_ waits for news on Swedish girlfriends, showers, milkshakes, and what not |
15:45 | hadees | Chutt, hehe not really, this is kind of my learning project and I really am better on the wine side of this then the vis part |
15:45 | thor_ | hadees, raw PCM is _all_the data. you can, by definition, transform it into any other representation |
15:45 | GreyFoxx | o_cee: That would be neat. Or something like a fade in/out curtain openning kind of screen when you launch a video in mythvideo "_ |
15:45 | o_cee | thor_, right. status report: new girl, really nice, showrs = yeah, a couple.. milkshakes: well, depends what brand. the icy ones haven't started yet, far to cold heh. the spicy ones are great, can't get enough. |
15:46 | thor_ | excellent |
15:46 | o_cee | yep |
15:46 | o_cee | :) |
15:46 | hadees | Chutt, well i guess if it can still do it i'll just pass in raw data |
15:47 | hadees | unless i can figure out what ever fft formula winamp uses |
15:47 | hadees | but whats the big diffrence, preformance? |
15:48 | Chutt | er |
15:48 | Chutt | fft is frequency domain |
15:48 | o_cee | got an exam tomorrow involving ft and imagemanipulation :) |
15:48 | Chutt | heh |
15:48 | Chutt | actually, it's easier this way: pcm data, graphed, is an oscilliscope |
15:48 | hadees | Chutt, its not just that isn't it a general concept of data transformation |
15:49 | Chutt | fft data, graphed, is a spectroscope |
15:49 | thor_ | o_cee, Fourier Transformations? |
15:49 | o_cee | thor_, yeah |
15:49 | thor_ | cool |
15:49 | hadees | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transforms |
15:49 | o_cee | thor_, part of what i've been reading at least.. yeah it's nice |
15:50 | hadees | see you can do it on physics, number theory, combinatorics, signal processing, probability theory, statistics, cryptography, acoustics, oceanography, optics |
15:50 | thor_ | econometrics |
15:50 | o_cee | images |
15:51 | hadees | is the formula always the same? |
15:52 | o_cee | sure |
15:52 | o_cee | fft is a way of calculating the ft |
15:52 | o_cee | fast fourier transform |
15:53 | o_cee | uses aproxamisations and stuff that makes it alot faster than normal ft |
15:53 | o_cee | yeah nice spelling :P |
15:53 | hadees | so no matter what lib i use to get the fft from pcm it will be the same as if i used another libary on the same pcm |
15:53 | o_cee | should be similar |
15:54 | o_cee | transforming an image to ft and back shows no difference. if you'd compare it bit by bit there might be differences caused by the fft algo, but |
15:54 | thor_ | uhm, fftw is already used in mythmusic |
15:54 | hadees | thor_, huh for what? chutt just said it wasn't |
15:54 | hadees | well one vis uses it but it has it's own |
15:55 | thor_ | http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythmusic/README?rev=1.25&view=markup |
15:58 | hadees | hmm i actully remember installing that now |
16:01 | hadees | with raw pcm is it easy to get the sample rate? |
16:02 | thor_ | +90% of the time, it is 16 bits, 2 channels, 44.1 |
16:03 | thor_ | and the listner method in the decoding stuff tells you in any case |
16:03 | hadees | thor_, yeah thats what is hard coded into the xmms plugin |
16:03 | hadees | but it would be nice to set that |
16:04 | hadees | cool |
16:04 | Netslayer | what's that triple dot thing mean again that profs use, ie a dot above two other dots? is it therfore? |
16:04 | hadees | etc ? |
16:05 | Netslayer | . / .. |
16:05 | thor_ | three dots in a triangle is therefore |
16:06 | | * thor_ glances at topic |
16:06 | shadash | keep up with all the good vis/mythmusic info |
16:07 | Beirdo | QED |
16:07 | Netslayer | in open office how do you do a pheta with the formula thing? |
16:07 | Beirdo | Netslayer: what does that have to do with MythTV development? |
16:08 | LedHed | beirdo always true to the cause |
16:08 | Netslayer | wtf oh i'm in the wrong channel lol |
16:08 | Netslayer | Beirdo, whoops sorry |
16:10 | hadees | okay so looking at the lib i was wrong it seems like the winamp api faker thing does access raw pcm but it also asks for the freq |
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16:20 | hadees | anyone know anything about mmap function? |
16:21 | thor_ | ufg |
16:23 | hadees | thor_, hehe well see the xmms vis i am looking at loads up the dll then sets everything up and then it does a mmap to /tmp/winamp |
16:23 | hadees | I am kind of unsure why that is needed |
16:24 | hadees | i mean currently i don't know of any other way to access it but i would assume that has to be a better way |
16:25 | thor_ | haven't the slightest |
16:26 | hadees | i guess they are trying to lock onto the vis proc running |
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17:06 | Alex23NJ | Can someone recommend a USB-based TV input/output gadget known to work well under Linux? |
17:06 | o_cee | yepp. says right in the topic. |
17:09 | | * Alex23NJ bows and backs toward the exit. |
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17:25 | kvandivo | o_cee's gettin a bit frisky with the answers there.. |
17:26 | Beirdo | heh |
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17:30 | o_cee | Page was generated in 17.145609 seconds |
17:30 | o_cee | wtf |
17:30 | o_cee | that's no good :) |
17:30 | o_cee | and no one to call at 11:30.. blah |
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17:32 | mikegrb | o_cee: <3 |
17:33 | mikegrb | o_cee: you need a linode ;) |
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17:34 | o_cee | heh :) |
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18:19 | Quan | is there any howto docs specific on upgrading frm .15 to 17 |
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18:36 | GoP-Demon | o_O |
18:36 | GoP-Demon | has anyone heard of myth tv for the xbox ? |
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18:37 | o_cee | http://homeschoolreading.com/ |
18:38 | hadees | Chutt, Okay now this is nuts it seems what i thought was just a lib it called is actully a helper program that runs till the xmms plugin tells it to quit, i am guessing this isn't the kind of thing you want in myth |
18:39 | hadees | although i never coded anything like this mabey thats how you should do it... |
18:39 | o_cee | http://homeschoolreading.com/images/goat_350.jpg wtf is that guy doin |
18:39 | hadees | and then the plugin talks to the helper app via shared memory map on a file |
18:39 | hadees | does seem right to me |
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18:44 | hadees | i mean i guess its the same sort of thing as spawning a process but i don't know if i should still do it... |
18:45 | GoP-Demon | who r u talking to |
18:46 | hadees | GoP-Demon, anyone that will lisen... before I was talking to Chutt, Thor and a few other people about this |
18:46 | o_cee | GoP-Demon, the address above was for you. |
18:47 | o_cee | GoP-Demon, http://www.homeschoolreading.com/proofadult.htm <-- see, seems they're really good. |
18:47 | GoP-Demon | y is the link for me |
18:48 | GoP-Demon | i can read : \ |
18:48 | o_cee | because you're in the wrong channel. thought it was because you couldn't read the topic.. |
18:48 | GoP-Demon | o.o |
18:48 | o_cee | looks like boobs |
18:49 | hadees | o_cee, he can read already? your program must work fast |
18:49 | GoP-Demon | o_O |
18:49 | GoP-Demon | whats a read |
18:49 | o_cee | hadees, yep :) |
18:49 | o_cee | hey that other boob looks odd, they're supposed to be the same size dood |
18:49 | GoP-Demon | whats a boob |
18:49 | GoP-Demon | :o |
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18:49 | hadees | that thing on your mom's chest |
18:49 | o_cee | haha |
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18:50 | o_cee | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boob |
18:50 | o_cee | yep |
18:56 | Anduin | o_cee - he is doing exactly what it says. |
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19:12 | hadees | alright so i totally understand this xmms-winamp plugin now however there is still the issue of the shared memory file, thats how mythmusic is going to talk to the child process if i keep things the same however i could put it in memory so i don't have to use a tmp file |
19:12 | hadees | is there any reason a tmp file would be bad? |
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19:34 | pmiller9 | how long show it take to change channels with mythtv and a PVR-150/500? .. mine takes like 2 seconds; what on earth is mythtv doing? |
19:34 | pmiller9 | s/show/should |
19:35 | dopester | see topic |
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23:03 | Captain_Murdo | | heh, computergeeks.com is selling projectors now. |
23:03 | | * mikegrb sells a Captain_Murdoch |
23:04 | Chutt | whazzat? |
23:04 | Captain_Murdo | | that's like a mastercard, "priceless" :) |
23:04 | mikegrb | Captain_Murdoch: I could probably get $5, if I lie and say you do windows |
23:05 | Captain_Murdo | | they're selling a toshiba projector for $759 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=TDP-S20U&cat=CON |
23:05 | Chutt | old dlp, though |
23:06 | Chutt | means rainbows =) |
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23:06 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, just thought it kinda funny. I'm happy with my BenQ. only use it for movies at night though. |
23:06 | Chutt | mine's on right now |
23:06 | Chutt | adult swim =) |
23:06 | Captain_Murdo | | my wife can see the rainbows occasionally and I can see them if I dart my eyes around. |
23:07 | Chutt | speaking of which, i shall go watch cartoons now |
23:07 | Captain_Murdo | | I don't have a Myth box in the vicinity though, need to run some cabling. |
23:07 | rkulagow__ | captain murdoch: don't do that then. |
23:07 | rkulagow__ | or, learn to enjoy them |
23:07 | Captain_Murdo | | rkulagow_ that's what I tell her. :) |
23:07 | Captain_Murdo | | I don't see them, I have to make myself see them. |
23:08 | Captain_Murdo | | too much REM while awake. :) |
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