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| 02:51 | mtjs | Anyone read the bug about the no sound in livetv ? |
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| 06:49 | riksta | Chutt: maybe you should look at the new freenode channel naming scheme, #foo is for developement of foo, and ##foo is 'about' foo |
| 06:49 | riksta | think they are keen for people to adopt that convention |
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| 08:55 | | SuperCatFrog | hi - i'd just like to say thanks to all the developers of mythtv for creating such a brilliant piece of software. Its taken two weeks to configure but it works now. Thanks |
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| 09:49 | GeckoFiend | weee new dev box. 2.5ghz + distcc + gb network == fast(er) compiles |
| 09:51 | dopester | heh |
| 10:06 | o_c | wonder if you can hotplug a soundcard... hmm. |
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| 10:11 | GeckoFiend | hmmm shouldn't P4 celerons be optimized for pentium4 instead of pentium2? |
| 10:12 | GeckoFiend | or is that another -march leads to bad code? |
| 10:20 | o_cee | i'm using p4 on mine |
| 10:21 | o_cee | think there's "celeron" as well, haven't looked that much at it |
| 10:21 | kvandivo | i forced i686, and it seems to run fine |
| 10:23 | kvandivo | course, i don't know how much better that is.. |
| 10:24 | kvandivo | now that i think about it |
| 10:24 | thor_ | about 100 |
| 10:24 | kvandivo | i did that some one the other day.. they were wondering what the difference between a model 3689 and a model 3989 was.. |
| 10:25 | kvandivo | i don't think they really appreciated the humor in my response |
| 10:25 | thor_ | and BMW is 7 series is more than twice as mich as a 3 |
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| 10:25 | thor_ | geez, two left hands |
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| 10:58 | kvandivo | i'm dense.. i'll be the first to admit it... but what makes this a 100 inch manual screen? http://tinyurl.com/6e4no |
| 11:03 | mikegrb | kvandivo: you are so dense |
| 11:03 | mikegrb | kvandivo: you are denser then the population of nyc |
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| 11:04 | kvandivo | a 'population' can't be dense. that's like saying that 8 million is dense. Makes no sense. |
| 11:06 | mikegrb | bah |
| 11:06 | mikegrb | kvandivo: anyway it is manual because you have to pull the handle down |
| 11:06 | mikegrb | silly kvandivo |
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| 11:23 | Baylink | "a population is dense" is usually shorthand for an understood, more encompassing concept. |
| 11:24 | Beirdo | kvandivo: I dunno... that would almost apply in some cases... |
| 11:27 | mikegrb | Baylink: I know! |
| 11:27 | mikegrb | Beirdo: It certainly would, espcially cases where the people are not unlike kvandivo himself |
| 11:28 | kvandivo | at any rate, to get back to the offtopic topic.. i was curious where the '100' was coming from.. not the 'manual' |
| 11:28 | mikegrb | kvandivo: probably a measuring tape |
| 11:28 | Beirdo | diagonal dimension |
| 11:29 | Beirdo | just like on TVs |
| 11:29 | Beirdo | although it says 65" in the description :)_ |
| 11:29 | kvandivo | finally.. someone saw what i was talking about |
| 11:30 | mikegrb | yah, my math gets 65 inches for diagnal |
| 11:31 | mikegrb | /calc sqrt (32^2 + 57^2) |
| 11:31 | Beirdo | kinda like that cool 2000GHz Athlon they had posted the other day |
| 11:31 | mikegrb | irssi's bc intigration is spiff |
| 11:31 | mikegrb | Beirdo: I'll take three please |
| 11:34 | | gr8nash-home | cvs myth has xvmc_vld on by default is that what was intended or a mistake? |
| 11:40 | _rkulagow_ | i think it compiles in by default with the new configure script. is that what you mean? |
| 11:40 | | gr8nash-home | right |
| 11:40 | | gr8nash-home | is that a bad thing for non-ephia people? |
| 11:40 | _rkulagow_ | yeah, i compiled last night and when running frontend it would just go to blank screen |
| 11:41 | _rkulagow_ | when selecting watch live tv or watch recrording |
| 11:41 | _rkulagow_ | had to re-run configure and explicitly disable |
| 11:41 | _rkulagow_ | the xvmc and the xvmc-vld stuff |
| 11:41 | _rkulagow_ | ./configure --disable-xvmc --disable-xvmc-vld --disable-joystick-menu |
| 11:42 | | gr8nash-home | cool thats what i thought =) |
| 11:42 | Beirdo | might be smart to have the xvms stuff all default to off. |
| 11:42 | Beirdo | xvmc rather |
| 11:42 | _rkulagow_ | yeah, probably |
| 11:42 | _rkulagow_ | i think dtk's new configure is too aggressive |
| 11:43 | Beirdo | but it's only been in for a couple of days or so, and it's a nice thing |
| 11:43 | Beirdo | it's a good step |
| 11:43 | | gr8nash-home | what do you mean too aggressive? |
| 11:43 | | gr8nash-home | doesnt play well with smaller configure scripts ;) |
| 11:43 | _rkulagow_ | just because i have nvidia, doesn't mean that i want xvmc |
| 11:43 | Beirdo | it beats you up |
| 11:43 | _rkulagow_ | same thing with the joystick stuff |
| 11:44 | mikegrb | _rkulagow_ is my joystick of choice |
| 11:46 | | * gr8nash-home closes his eyes to visualize.. then *quickly* re opens them =p |
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| 12:04 | | gr8nash-home | ohh one other thing firewire is also enabled by default in the configure script.. that errors my box anyway.... ill disable it now |
| 12:06 | | gr8nash-home | firewire capture i mean |
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| 12:16 | GeckoFiend | _rkulagow_ just because xvmc support is compiled in doesn't mean you have to use it. same with the joystick stuff... |
| 12:17 | _rkulagow_ | hrmm. so what's the runtime disable then? _something_ bad happened when my mythfrontend was compiled with them in there... i'll check more when i get home |
| 12:17 | Chutt | it's it compiled in, it's turned on by default, though |
| 12:17 | _rkulagow_ | i don't think i've ever actually used them because my system is fast enough |
| 12:17 | GeckoFiend | ahhh forgot about the auto-on flag for xvmc |
| 12:22 | Chutt | i'll flip em to off |
| 12:23 | _rkulagow_ | i just posted a message; i think the library got pulled in when i apt-get installed the build requires for mythtv on a FC3 with atrpms |
| 12:24 | Chutt | that's likely |
| 12:24 | _rkulagow_ | never actually ran the 0.17 suite (i don't think), but it was a easy way to pull in all the usual suspects |
| 12:26 | beavis | dopester: with the latest dvb changes the backend and the mythtv-setup both crash |
| 12:32 | Anduin | bah, everything is on IRC, and XvMC becomes less evil all while I play with e-mail. |
| 12:32 | beavis | what's the reason for "2005-03-24 18:30:51.451 MainServer::HandleVersion - Client speaks protocol version 14 but we speak 15!" now? |
| 12:33 | Anduin | beavis - asked and answered a million times |
| 12:33 | Chutt | anduin, you're too slow |
| 12:33 | Chutt | that's all there is to it =) |
| 12:33 | Anduin | Chutt - yes, as always |
| 12:34 | Chutt | beavis, you're running cvs checkouts from different times? |
| 12:34 | Chutt | you're running cvs without paying attention to the commits list? |
| 12:34 | beavis | no |
| 12:34 | wswanson | yes |
| 12:34 | Chutt | um, yes? |
| 12:34 | Chutt | those weren't rhetorical questions |
| 12:35 | beavis | I've just made "make distclean" and made a fresh build |
| 12:35 | beavis | It's just one pc |
| 12:35 | beavis | so no different machines |
| 12:35 | Chutt | you've got two different versions running. |
| 12:35 | Chutt | period. |
| 12:36 | hadees | Chutt, you know with sdl it has a window id for the window it is supposed to draw in, i take it that my vis needs to be that window but can I just replace the window id with my window or do i need to set the window id before it already has the normal vis window ready |
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| 12:36 | Anduin | beavis - (different topic), no my config patch does nothing for k8, I mostly try to fix stuff that bothers me. |
| 12:36 | beavis | Anduin: ok |
| 12:37 | Chutt | you need to draw in the window it gives you. |
| 12:37 | Chutt | nothing else. |
| 12:37 | beavis | Anduin: I just can't let it use -march=k8 |
| 12:37 | beavis | Anduin: no chance what I provide it takes pentiumpro |
| 12:38 | Anduin | beavis - fix it, send a patch, you care way more about it |
| 12:38 | hadees | Chutt, well its going to be a bit weird, then it will have like 3 windows, first the x11 it gave me, then the wrapper x11 window for the winamp vis and then the wine window inside the x11 wrapper window |
| 12:38 | Anduin | beavis - the new --arch=k8 should fix that if you use it (though getting the defaults to work would be better) |
| 12:38 | hadees | Chutt, although the user shouldn't notice |
| 12:39 | Anduin | beavis - though you'll have to explicitly enable mmx then (I only did intel cpus) |
| 12:39 | beavis | Anduin: ./configure --arch=k8 |
| 12:39 | beavis | ERROR: CPU specific ./configure options failed compile test |
| 12:39 | beavis | Removing CPU specific compilation options. (-march=k8) |
| 12:40 | Anduin | beavis - looks like your gcc doesn't support -marck=k8 |
| 12:41 | beavis | the default gcc on debian is 3.2 and it indeed doesn't support k8 |
| 12:41 | Anduin | beavis - hmm, yeah, you'll need to patch for k8, same basic stuff I did in mine. |
| 12:46 | hadees | Chutt, is that okay? the 3 window thing, its alittle strange but you need the wrapper window because even though the top level window in wine is x11 there is no way to know the window id of that window if i make the winamp vis a top level |
| 12:47 | hadees | so i create a window so i know its window id and then have it the parent of the winamp vis, otherwise i would have to change the way mythmusic draws the vis window |
| 12:47 | hadees | have it be the parent of the winamp vis window |
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| 13:07 | hadees | Chutt, i also need to fork a process off mythtv for this, any way i should do that or just a normal fork() command |
| 13:08 | Chutt | yup. |
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| 13:45 | beavis | is danielk sometimes here around? |
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| 14:11 | beavis | Chutt: I've sent the bt to -dev because of the problems on 64bit. You told me to get into each thread manually. The problem is that I still get: #6 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () in every thread |
| 14:12 | beavis | Is it ok? Should I send the bt of every thread anyhow? |
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| 15:24 | thor_ | Chutt, you about |
| 15:32 | Chutt | yup |
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| 15:33 | thor_ | I'm in the process of adding an audiooutputnull device to libmyth |
| 15:34 | thor_ | outputs no bits to a device, but you can still attach listners to it |
| 15:34 | Chutt | i thought it had one? |
| 15:34 | Chutt | oh, guess not |
| 15:34 | Chutt | that's cool. |
| 15:35 | thor_ | if I do things that way, and do everything out the listner and over RTSP I can keep everything in perfect sync |
| 15:35 | Chutt | cool. |
| 15:35 | thor_ | I've had 3 vlc's and some local code all in lock step |
| 15:35 | thor_ | pretty cool |
| 15:36 | thor_ | any little thing that could "decode" PCM can be a set of "speakers" |
| 15:37 | thor_ | only downside is that reaction time to user interface actions is not quite instantaneous |
| 15:37 | thor_ | which sucks |
| 15:38 | thor_ | but I think I can drive it pretty close to zero lag |
| 15:39 | thor_ | bah, why does this configure script think I want native lirc |
| 15:41 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:41 | Chutt | doesn't hurt to turn it on |
| 15:41 | thor_ | dev box, no lirc anywhere on it |
| 15:41 | thor_ | can't find include |
| 15:42 | thor_ | easy to switch off though, no biggie |
| 15:42 | Chutt | try to fix the script? |
| 15:42 | thor_ | ah, sensible |
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| 15:52 | Gumby | are any developers interrested in adding a dvdshrink module to mythtv? |
| 15:55 | hadees | Gumby, are you a dvdshrink dev or something? |
| 15:55 | hadees | because i belive dvdshrink is closed source |
| 16:00 | Gumby | hadees: no, I'm not. I've just been speaking with one of the developers though |
| 16:01 | hadees | Well its an intresting idea but its really would be more on their side then a myth devs side |
| 16:01 | hadees | plus it would need to run on linux |
| 16:02 | hadees | you could mabey do it in winelib but for transcoding i would want to |
| 16:02 | Gumby | ah, I am not talking the windows version |
| 16:02 | hadees | there is a linux version out there? |
| 16:02 | hadees | i didn't know that |
| 16:02 | Gumby | there is a linux version that is basically just a frontend or gui wrapper for trnascode, mkisofs....etcetc |
| 16:03 | hadees | Gumby, so does it have anything to do with dvdshrink.org |
| 16:03 | Gumby | I tried it last night. ripped TheMatix retail DVD to single layer DVD-R |
| 16:03 | Gumby | worked great |
| 16:03 | hadees | Gumby, give me a link |
| 16:03 | Gumby | no, nothing to do with dvdshrink.org |
| 16:03 | hadees | Gumby, well then myth already can rip dvds |
| 16:03 | hadees | if he wants to make a better one |
| 16:03 | Gumby | can it? dual layer to single layer and burn? |
| 16:04 | hadees | it just makes xvid files i think |
| 16:04 | Gumby | ah, yeah. hes also working on divx2dvd and dvd2divx. |
| 16:04 | Gumby | I'd assume that includes xvid |
| 16:05 | hadees | so whats the link? |
| 16:05 | Gumby | IIRC the URL is xdvdshrink.sf.net |
| 16:05 | Gumby | ah, get rid of the x |
| 16:06 | Gumby | the author frequents undernet in #lfd and goes by the nick ozzy |
| 16:06 | hadees | Gumby, basicly your going to be hard pressed to find some to code this for you |
| 16:06 | hadees | you can either do it or try to get ozzy to |
| 16:07 | Gumby | heh, I'm definately not a coder. allthough it might be a neat project. I just thought it'd be a great feature to have in myth |
| 16:08 | hadees | mabey |
| 16:08 | hadees | i wouldn't do that stuff on my myth box though, to much work for it |
| 16:08 | hadees | i have another computer that handles things like that |
| 16:09 | Gumby | I did one yesterday. didnt seem to be much of an issue |
| 16:09 | hadees | Gumby, try doing it while your recording 3 streams, watching a divx video, and running commecrial detection |
| 16:10 | hadees | thats my guide, if i do all that at once i am happy |
| 16:10 | Gumby | no problem... considering I have 3 boxes to do it with :) |
| 16:11 | Gumby | anyhow, I thought I'd bring it up as most people dont seem to know about it. |
| 16:12 | Gumby | and from my experience with it thus far it works great. hes going to be working on DVD menu support for it also. |
| 16:13 | hadees | it doesn't do dvd menus? |
| 16:15 | Gumby | not currently no. thats its one downfall. |
| 16:16 | hadees | thats a huge downfall |
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| 16:38 | cursor | oops |
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| 17:34 | drdaz | hola! kinda need a hand with the QT button bug... |
| 17:34 | | * drdaz is a linuxnoob |
| 17:34 | drdaz | basically I have no idea how to force apt-get to downgrade QT |
| 17:35 | shadas1 | /join #mythtv-users |
| 17:35 | drdaz | ahh |
| 17:36 | drdaz | try there I will |
| 17:36 | drdaz | thx |
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| 17:48 | dopester | sure blame the dvb code why don't ya :) |
| 17:48 | kvandivo | i blame it for the rain we had yesterday |
| 17:49 | stoffel | and i had to work late b/c of it |
| 17:50 | dopester | nothing like scrolling up and seeing beavis blaming my code and 1 second later posting the protocol version change.. heh |
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| 17:50 | dopester | but it could have been that CreateRainStorm() funciton I added |
| 17:51 | ozan | hi, i bought a skystar2 digital tv card and want to use it with my gentoo linux! is mythtv suitable for this? if not could you please show me some guidance? |
| 17:52 | shadas1 | /join #mythtv-users ;-) |
| 17:52 | ozan | ok |
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| 18:14 | beavis | dopester: mea culpa, sorry ;) |
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| 20:21 | dopester | was ist los mis beavis.. :) |
| 20:25 | dopester | er mit |
| 20:30 | | gr8nash-home | has anyone tried compiling mythgame cvs recently? is it le' toasto? |
| 20:31 | | gr8nash-home | gametree.cpp:120: error: `db' undeclared (first use this function) |
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| 21:40 | | * dopester hands beirdo a mojito |
| 21:46 | Beirdo | heh |
| 21:46 | dopester | i got 1/2 a lime left... hehe |
| 21:46 | dopester | 1 more pint coming up |
| 21:48 | Beirdo | argh |
| 21:48 | | * Beirdo is having troubles with awstats. |
| 21:48 | Beirdo | likely caused by not enough beer |
| 21:48 | | * dopester hands beirdo a second mojito |
| 21:49 | dopester | drink up man |
| 21:49 | | * Beirdo chugs |
| 21:56 | | * dopester hands beirdo a third mojito |
| 21:57 | Beirdo | heh |
| 21:58 | dopester | chutt needs to put a breathalizer on cvs commit |
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| 21:59 | | * warren looks for xris |
| 21:59 | warren | Beirdo, ping |
| 21:59 | Beirdo | hey there |
| 21:59 | warren | hi |
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| 23:03 | | * dopester hands beirdo a fourth mojito |
| 23:04 | Beirdo | heh |
| 23:04 | Beirdo | OK, that's 4 out of 6 awstats working |
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| 23:05 | dopester | behold the power of the mojito |
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| 23:23 | _c | tangential, but i can't get irw to produce any output no matter what i do. i have a hauppauge 350. |
| 23:24 | _c | i have reasonable confs for lircd and lircmd and both are started. |
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