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| 07:46 | <gbee> | anyone else having problems remaining connection to the freenode network? |
| 07:47 | <gardengnome> | i've been connected to pratchett.freenode.net for almost three days now. |
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| 07:49 | <stuarta> | gbee, said you got kicked for flooding |
| 07:51 | <gbee> | hmm? |
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| 07:52 | <stuarta> | got 2 of those |
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| 07:59 | <Dksaarth_> | can anybody here try help me fix a mythbackend segfault on freebsd ? I compiled with debug support |
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| 07:59 | <Dksaarth_> | seems to be a problem either in libpthread or libqt-mt |
| 08:00 | <stuarta> | Dksaarth_: can you pastebin the gdb output |
| 08:00 | <stuarta> | from the bit where it goes |
| 08:01 | <stuarta> | "program.... exit ..... SIGSEGV |
| 08:02 | <gbee> | pastebin.ca |
| 08:02 | <stuarta> | gbee: your provider may also disconnect you if you are idle for too long |
| 08:03 | <gbee> | that last time was my laptop freezing btw - otherwise I've not sent anything so no idea how I could have been kick for flooding |
| 08:03 | <Dksaarth_> | having a look, where should that be seen? must i be looking at the corefile with gdb or running the prog with gdb |
| 08:03 | <stuarta> | either |
| 08:03 | <stuarta> | since it's repeatable run the backend under gdb |
| 08:04 | <Dksaarth_> | http://pastebin.ca/321501 |
| 08:05 | <stuarta> | hrm. looks like the differences in pthreads may be giving you grief |
| 08:06 | <gbee> | not the case here ... even if it were, it only started late yesterday and I'm getting disconnected after just a few minutes in some cases, a couple of hours in others |
| 08:06 | <Dksaarth_> | anyideas on where to go from here stuarta? |
| 08:07 | <stuarta> | Dksaarth_: might be worth a try to force it detect as OSX since that is basically NetBSD |
| 08:07 | <Dksaarth_> | okay didn't think about that |
| 08:07 | <Dksaarth_> | ill recompile for osx, hopefully that might help things a tad ;] |
| 08:07 | <stuarta> | what's the DVB API like on FreeBSD??? |
| 08:08 | <Tuomaz> | stuarta: are you/are you not stuartm@svn.mythtv.org? ( i guess not?) |
| 08:08 | <stuarta> | no, i'm stuarta@svn.mythtv.org :) |
| 08:08 | [~] | stuarta points to gbee |
| 08:09 | <Tuomaz> | gbee = stuartm@svn? |
| 08:09 | <stuarta> | yup |
| 08:09 | <Tuomaz> | ok |
| 08:09 | <gbee> | damn, my cover is blown |
| 08:09 | <stuarta> | hehehe |
| 08:10 | <Tuomaz> | gbee: after your changeset 12557, I cannot start mythfrontend 'Could not find theme G.A.N.T'. |
| 08:10 | <gbee> | hmm |
| 08:10 | <gbee> | what theme were you using? |
| 08:11 | <Tuomaz> | Don't think I was using any theme?... new machine... |
| 08:11 | [~] | Tuomaz looking in database to see if there is a theme sat for that hostname |
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| 08:12 | <Tuomaz> | Database says Theme = G.A.N.T |
| 08:12 | <gbee> | it's in the settings table |
| 08:12 | <gbee> | not sure why it can't find G.A.N.T. that's a core theme |
| 08:13 | <Tuomaz> | I'm using a prefix when I install, myabe thats causing a problem? |
| 08:13 | <Tuomaz> | eg: ./configure .... --prefix=/home/... |
| 08:13 | <Tuomaz> | But it used to work before. |
| 08:13 | <gbee> | shouldn't be - we use should be looking in the prefixed dir |
| 08:14 | <gbee> | really not sure how 12557 broke anything, I didn't really change the behaviour of the normal theme discovery, just the menu theme |
| 08:15 | <janneg> | Tuomaz: is there a dot after the 'T'? |
| 08:15 | <Tuomaz> | janneg: eys |
| 08:15 | <gbee> | ok, give me a minute I'll look at my changes again |
| 08:15 | <Tuomaz> | janneg: yes |
| 08:16 | <janneg> | Tuomaz: you wrote it two times without a dot |
| 08:16 | <Tuomaz> | janneg: sorry |
| 08:17 | <gbee> | the error definately has a dot? |
| 08:17 | <Tuomaz> | Yes. |
| 08:17 | <Tuomaz> | I will try more during the weekend. |
| 08:17 | <janneg> | 'G.A.N.T.' works fine here |
| 08:18 | <Tuomaz> | Ok, maybe there is something with my setup then... |
| 08:18 | <gbee> | mind make a small change in the code? |
| 08:19 | <Tuomaz> | Me? |
| 08:19 | <Tuomaz> | I can try if you have something... |
| 08:19 | <gbee> | yep |
| 08:20 | <Dksaarth_> | sorry stuarta, stupid question, whats the configure flag for compiling for osx ? |
| 08:20 | <gbee> | line 1717 of libs/libmyth/mythcontext.cpp |
| 08:20 | <stuarta> | Dksaarth_: you will have to hack the configure script |
| 08:20 | <gbee> | change .arg(themename) to .arg(testdir) |
| 08:21 | <gbee> | that should tell us where it's looking for the theme |
| 08:22 | <gbee> | oh and see if changing the theme in the database to "blue" helps (no quotes) |
| 08:23 | <Tuomaz> | ok |
| 08:24 | <Dksaarth_> | can you be a bit more specific stuarta ? |
| 08:24 | <Dksaarth_> | thought http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth_on_Mac_OS_X says that the backend wont run on osx, only the frontend |
| 08:25 | <stuarta> | Dksaarth_: the configure script does some checks which will result in it setting flag indicating that it's on OSX |
| 08:25 | <stuarta> | umm, that's true for the released versions. |
| 08:25 | <stuarta> | progress is being made in head |
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| 08:29 | <Dksaarth_> | shot for the help stuarta, im going to go play for a while, see what i can figure out |
| 08:29 | <stuarta> | np |
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| 08:35 | <stuarta> | afternoon ivor_ |
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| 08:47 | <Tuomaz> | gbee: I will have to try that tomorrow (at work right now) |
| 08:47 | <gbee> | ok |
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| 09:19 | <ivor> | stuarta: damn I'm useless. |
| 09:19 | <ivor> | hello! |
| 09:19 | <ivor> | :) |
| 09:20 | <stuarta> | :) |
| 09:20 | <gbee> | hi ivor |
| 09:21 | <ivor> | everyone happy? |
| 09:21 | <GreyFoxx> | heh Well, I've been asked to ponder an in building (20 or more condos) myth type video system |
| 09:21 | <gbee> | just reminded me I had a kde patch I meant to submit .... a couple of months ago |
| 09:22 | <ivor> | ooh toys to evaluate. |
| 09:22 | <ivor> | gbee: yeah. what for? |
| 09:22 | <GreyFoxx> | We already provide them Internet, Phone and the building has a Sat feed |
| 09:22 | <GreyFoxx> | ivor: Yeah |
| 09:23 | <gbee> | nothing special, one line thing to kprint |
| 09:24 | <ivor> | oh. nothing exciting then. :P |
| 09:24 | <gbee> | no :) |
| 09:24 | <GreyFoxx> | Setting up the backend is one thing, It's really what to put in the customer premise for accessing it. Do I give them frontends , or some sort of other stb player |
| 09:24 | <jams> | GreyFoxx- hopefully it goes better then the school project |
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| 09:25 | <gbee> | just added support for an envelope size as reported by my drivers (or cups can't remember now) |
| 09:25 | <GreyFoxx> | jams: That's on "hold" . Someone in the schoolboard is still trying to get it done by his friend who costs more :) |
| 09:25 | <gbee> | so, pretty dull really ;) |
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| 09:25 | <GreyFoxx> | jams: bascially "let my brother in law do it" hehe |
| 09:25 | <jams> | i see |
| 09:25 | <GreyFoxx> | stupid |
| 09:25 | <GreyFoxx> | but in the end it's their money and frustration :) |
| 09:26 | <ivor> | fairly standard behaviour. |
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| 09:32 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: how would you setup the backend? shared schedules, recordings etc?? |
| 09:37 | <GreyFoxx> | gbee: Still contemplating it. They haven't told me yet what the video source would be, and I still need to decide on the users interface |
| 09:38 | <GreyFoxx> | It's one thing to have multiple mythfrontends within a family/house, but another to have it among many "houses" |
| 09:38 | <GreyFoxx> | Gotta make sure none of them can break it |
| 09:38 | <GreyFoxx> | or turn off scheduling that someone else has setup |
| 09:39 | <gbee> | sure, well if it happens keep us informed ;) Given that myth doesn't yet have any user account system I'd be interested in the implementation |
| 09:39 | <GreyFoxx> | Likely they will setup at least 1 capture device per apartment |
| 09:39 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah |
| 09:40 | <GreyFoxx> | I'm always wondering about the frontend hardware itself. Not many people are going to watch a PC in the living room |
| 09:40 | <gbee> | If (when?) the SoC user account stuff goes in I can see it making such setups easier and more common |
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| 09:41 | <GreyFoxx> | One option I apparently have is something a coworker is going to setup in his house. a "big" frontend with multiple X sessions/cards plugged into rf modulators feeding a new channel to each house |
| 09:41 | <GreyFoxx> | they tune to channel XX to get the myth interface |
| 09:42 | <GreyFoxx> | and come up with a system to feed the IR/whatever controls back to the appropriate frontend |
| 09:42 | <gbee> | yeah |
| 09:42 | <GreyFoxx> | The Multiple X/frontend sessions are system, just not sure on the method to get the IR controls back and going to the right frontend only |
| 09:43 | <GreyFoxx> | are simple I meant |
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| 09:43 | <gbee> | with all these set-top box format PC cases and systems being produced these days it really doesn't have to look like a typical PC- most people will put up with a fanless/diskless unit |
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| 09:43 | <GreyFoxx> | I had to think about that anway since my coworker wants to do that for 4 frontends in his house. 1 machine/2 machines feeding his TV's and I need a way to send the controls back |
| 09:44 | <GreyFoxx> | true |
| 09:44 | <gbee> | if you get the right design it could even be wall mounted next to where the RF would normally be |
| 09:44 | <GreyFoxx> | and all apartments are supposedly wired |
| 09:44 | <GreyFoxx> | I've seen some nice wall units with IR in and video out |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | just not sure how I would manage the signal on the other end |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | http://www.smarthome.com/7713WR.html |
| 09:46 | <GreyFoxx> | I just need to figure out the other end heh |
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| 11:14 | <GreyFoxx> | gbee: Stop the and restart the frontend after installing the plugins |
| 11:14 | <GreyFoxx> | ignore that :) |
| 11:14 | <gbee> | ignore what? |
| 11:14 | <GreyFoxx> | precisely :) |
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| 11:14 | <gbee> | ;) |
| 11:15 | <Frogger> | Good day folks. |
| 11:16 | <Frogger> | Has anyone been able to get onto dl.atrpms.net today? I'm trying to install MythTV on a new Fedora Core 6 system and dl.atrpms.net doesn't resolve. |
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| 11:26 | <gbee> | resolves to 130.133.35.8 here |
| 11:31 | <Tuomaz> | gbee: I'm unable to reproduce my error I mentioned earlier here at work, will try again at home tomorrow. If I don't say something more about just forget it :-) |
| 11:31 | <gbee> | ok :) |
| 11:32 | <Tuomaz> | I start mythfronend with -O MasterServerIP=127.0.0.1 |
| 11:32 | <Tuomaz> | (i'm tunneling myth traffic) |
| 11:32 | <Tuomaz> | Watching recordings work, but livetv try to connect to my masterserver (192.168.1.111) not accessible from here. |
| 11:33 | <Tuomaz> | maybe more apropiate in -users (?) |
| 11:33 | <GreyFoxx> | yup |
| 11:34 | <Frogger> | Thanks gbee |
| 11:37 | <Frogger> | gbee: I put that address in /etc/hosts. Yum seems to be working now. :-) Thanks muchly. |
| 11:37 | <gbee> | np |
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| 12:09 | <gbee> | eskil: just looking over the albumart patch, did you mean to leave in that doxygen comment block above MetaIOID3v2::getAlbumArt ? |
| 12:10 | <gbee> | I've not looked at the patch in the context of the actual code - just doesn't seem that comment applies at all :) |
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| 12:11 | <change008> | does any one know of a X10 channel? |
| 12:12 | <change008> | or can u guys mayb advise me? |
| 12:13 | <change008> | i want mythtv to run on a webserver,but i want this webinterface to be displayed on a touchscreen lcd in say the kitchen<how will i do that? |
| 12:15 | <gardengnome> | the very first step to accomplish this is to /join #mythtv-users ;) |
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| 12:18 | <Tuomaz> | Seem like you can't tunnel livetv with MythTV right now. ibs/libmythtv/remoteutil.cpp:220 receives the ip-adress from the backend. |
| 12:19 | <Tuomaz> | And then it uses the same IP in GetPlaybackURL |
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| 12:37 | <eskil> | gbee, I meant to change it to fit the function, guess I only did the \brief line. |
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| 12:38 | <gbee> | not a huge problem, just thought I'd mention it |
| 12:39 | <eskil> | gbee, thanks. Should I fix it and attach a new patch ? |
| 12:40 | <gbee> | wouldn't bother, I'll sort it :) |
| 12:42 | <eskil> | gbee, rock on. |
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| 12:46 | <eskil> | gbee, any chance of getting you to also look over ticket#2557 ? |
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| 12:48 | <gbee> | I'll have a look, sure |
| 12:49 | <eskil> | gbee, thanks! |
| 12:50 | <gbee> | actually, quite interested in that one - does the patch solve the thread leaking? |
| 12:51 | <gbee> | I've been meaning to fix that problem for a while but never found time to look into it |
| 12:52 | <eskil> | gbee, oh, I reneg on the threadleaking. I think it's just gdb that preserves thread info for an uncanny long time. On a non-nptl system there wasn't any extra processes hanging around. |
| 12:52 | <gbee> | nevermind - looking at the patch |
| 12:52 | <eskil> | gbee, but it seemed to solve a lot of sporadic crashes in mythmusic. |
| 12:52 | <gbee> | yeah |
| 12:54 | <gbee> | you may be right about the thread problem, I never saw any associated resource leaks, just the huge number of threads in gdb |
| 12:57 | <gbee> | I've only just started looking at mythmusic - there are a few id3 issues I wanted to fix |
| 12:57 | <eskil> | gbee, I kinda got the impressesion that gdb just keeps the thread info around a bit for debugging purposes. |
| 12:58 | <eskil> | gbee, like saving id3 tags not working ? :-) |
| 12:58 | <gbee> | yep - actually even manages to wipe them :) |
| 12:59 | <eskil> | gbee, oh, that's even worse than what I saw. I saw it save the tags, even with the changes, but id3info would still show the old value... highly cryptic. |
| 13:01 | <gbee> | and I'd like to use the POPM to store the ratings - hate rating an entire library of music in mythmusic only to lose that info |
| 13:03 | <gbee> | eskil: tbh I'm not exactly sure that what it's doing - not spent enough time on it, but noticed there was a problem when I started copying files over to my new mp3 player only to find ID3(v2) tags were missing |
| 13:03 | <gbee> | POPM frame |
| 13:04 | [~] | eskil looks up popm... |
| 13:04 | <eskil> | ah neat |
| 13:04 | <eskil> | gbee, yeah, might as well store that in the tune. |
| 13:04 | <gbee> | http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames#line-1166 |
| 13:05 | <eskil> | gbee, I've been looking at the saving issue but couldn't figure it out. There wasn't any errors during the save, all the crazy libid3tag calls where done and all that, it just looks like the resulting tags have short length fields or such. |
| 13:06 | <gbee> | hmm |
| 13:08 | <gbee> | I'll see if I have time to experiment over the weekend |
| 13:11 | <gbee> | occassionally with problems like this I like to start fresh, try writing a simple test app, building on it until I either find the problem or have it fully working - then fix the problem or replace it with the new stuff |
| 13:11 | <eskil> | gbee, i'm using libid3tag 0.15.1b-8, my next step was going to be cutting the id3 code from mythtv into a small cli program. |
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| 13:16 | <gbee> | let me know if you have any success, I may not get very far, I've got some other tickets to sort and my free time may be limited in the next few weeks |
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| 13:18 | <gbee> | gbee: let me know if you have any success, I may not get very far, I've got some other tickets to sort and my free time may be limited in the next few weeks |
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| 13:19 | <eskil> | gbee, don't talk to yourself, it's a bad sign. |
| 13:19 | <gbee> | ;) |
| 13:19 | <eskil> | gbee, yeah, if I find out anything I'll probably file a ticket with a patch. |
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| 13:26 | <bkero> | Hello channel. :) Who can I get in contact with regarding swapping the downed drive in the MythTV server at osuosl? |
| 13:26 | <GreyFoxx> | Most likely Snow-Man |
| 13:34 | <bkero> | Has he been around recently? |
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| 13:35 | <janneg> | gbee, eskil: I think the threadleaking is an error in gdb-6.4. I've seen it too with thousends of signalmonitor threads. but the number of threads in /proc exceeded never 50 |
| 13:37 | <gbee> | janneg: thanks, good to know - I hadn't thought to compare against the status in proc |
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| 13:40 | <gbee> | bkero: he joined the channel about 5 hours ago, but has idled since |
| 13:41 | <gbee> | xris: bkero is from osuosl |
| 13:41 | <gbee> | bkero: xris might be able to help you |
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| 13:43 | <eskil> | gbee, janneg, I've never seen any thread leaking, but then again, I pretty much only use mythmusic and mythvideo. |
| 13:43 | <bkero> | cool :) |
| 13:44 | <janneg> | yeah, it's no real thread leaking. just gdb reporting all finished jobs |
| 13:45 | <janneg> | err, s/job/threads/ |
| 13:45 | <eskil> | janneg, yeah, that's what I figured (too late...), just couldn't tell if it was intentional, a setting or just a bug. |
| 13:45 | <gbee> | makes sense, as I said before there was no resource leaks to go with what gdb was showing |
| 13:45 | <xris> | gbee: ?? |
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| 13:46 | <janneg> | xris: failed drive swapping |
| 13:46 | <gbee> | xris: bkero is here asking about the dead drive - thought you might be able to help |
| 13:46 | <gbee> | Snow-Man isn't around |
| 13:47 | <bkero> | :) |
| 13:47 | <xris> | bkero: what's up? |
| 13:48 | <xris> | trouble identifying the drive, or just wondering if it's ok to hotswap? |
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| 13:58 | <xris> | bkero: ? |
| 14:06 | <gbee> | ... |
| 14:08 | <Snow-Man> | hm? |
| 14:08 | <Snow-Man> | I'm around, more or less |
| 14:18 | <gbee> | gathering mythmusic tickets at an alarming rate here .... could end up painting myself into a corner as the goto dev for mythmusic |
| 14:18 | <GreyFoxx> | heheh |
| 14:20 | <eskil> | gbee, I've got your back... |
| 14:21 | <eskil> | gbee, btw, ticket#2939 is also fixed by my albumart patch. |
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| 14:21 | <gbee> | eskil: thanks |
| 14:22 | <gbee> | I'll leve the ticket open, till I apply your patch |
| 14:24 | <eskil> | gbee, actually, his patch is slightly different. I wasn't sure what the intent of albumart is, but his patch only rereads when the directory changes, mine rereads when the file changes. That way if there's multiple images in the directory, it |
| 14:24 | <eskil> | 'll pick a random one for each track. |
| 14:25 | <eskil> | doubt people will notice one way or the other, unless they have multiple pics in the directory... |
| 14:25 | <gbee> | hmm, seems to me that your approach makes more sense if mulitple images exist - though if there is only one image we should bother to update |
| 14:25 | <gbee> | s/should/shouldn't/ |
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| 14:26 | <eskil> | gbee, I wouldn't bother with preventing that. The update is cheap, unoticable and only when the track changes. |
| 14:27 | <gbee> | I'll figure it out when I've had a proper look |
| 14:28 | <gbee> | I don't even use album art, so I'll have to fake some stuff to test :) |
| 14:29 | <eskil> | gbee, yeah, that's also how I ended up with random pictures of Portland as album art... |
| 14:29 | <gbee> | hehe |
| 14:33 | [~] | xris wonders why so many people contact him directly about custom mythtv development |
| 14:34 | <GreyFoxx> | heh yer famous! |
| 14:34 | <xris> | good google placement, apparently |
| 14:42 | <xris> | why can't recruiters act like they are there to sell YOU the job, rather than expecting you to beg THEM for work? |
| 14:43 | <xris> | I know google's the "in" company right now, but when I tell the recruiter I can't talk during the middle of the day, it should be expected that he not try to schedule talk time at 1pm. |
| 14:47 | <gbee> | google have some pretty unusual hiring practices, or so I've heard |
| 14:47 | <xris> | it's sort of f'd up |
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| 15:20 | <MrGandalf> | blah |
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| 15:26 | <Snow-Man> | Damnit |
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| 15:33 | <gbee> | xris: is #1317 still relevant? |
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| 15:35 | <xris> | haven't had enough time to check in IE |
| 15:38 | <gbee> | will check over the weekend if I remember |
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| 15:45 | <xris> | I just need to have my wife look at it next time she's using her windows box (usually on her ibook) |
| 15:47 | <gbee> | probably be before I can lay my hands on a windows machine :) |
| 15:49 | <gbee> | Chutt: u there? |
| 15:50 | <gbee> | any thoughts on #2897? |
| 15:50 | <xris> | gbee: I vote for killing the theme. :) |
| 15:51 | <gbee> | not a difficult fix, although it involves a bit more than the ticket creator suggests |
| 15:51 | <gbee> | xris: hehe |
| 15:52 | <xris> | I still want to see themes self-selecting wide vs not |
| 15:52 | <xris> | then I wouldn't have to change themes when I change screens |
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| 15:54 | <janneg> | I vote for killing windows ;) |
| 15:54 | <gbee> | that's a job for another time :) |
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| 16:02 | <gbee> | who knows anything about mythmovies/mythmovietime? ref #2475 - ok to apply? |
| 16:02 | <xris> | mythmovietime is dead |
| 16:03 | <gbee> | ok |
| 16:04 | <xris> | but that patch does explain that |
| 16:04 | <xris> | wtf is mythmovies? |
| 16:05 | <jams> | hmm that was discussed in this channel awhile ago |
| 16:05 | <xris> | ahh, third party plugin |
| 16:05 | <xris> | does the same thing |
| 16:05 | <xris> | should check with Chutt about that, I guess. |
| 16:05 | <gbee> | yeah |
| 16:06 | <gbee> | was mythmovietime ever official? I don't remember seeing it in svn |
| 16:06 | <jams> | it's there |
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| 16:07 | <jams> | not part of plugins though |
| 16:07 | <janneg> | gbee: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/release-0-20-fixes/mythmovietime |
| 16:07 | <xris> | gbee: it was part of LxM |
| 16:07 | <gbee> | found it |
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| 16:09 | [~] | gbee moves on |
| 16:09 | <gbee> | determined that while I've got the free time I'll close as many tickets as I can |
| 16:12 | <gbee> | guess #2482 and #2475 are related |
| 16:12 | <xris> | gbee: do you have xmltvid fields for the stations in the uk tv grabber? |
| 16:12 | <xris> | icon list, that is |
| 16:13 | <gbee> | sorry xris, I'm a bit tired - could you rephrase? |
| 16:14 | <xris> | gbee: you worked with juski to make the uk channel icon grabber in contrib, no? |
| 16:14 | <gbee> | no, well we discussed it a little but aside from that |
| 16:14 | <xris> | ah. nevermind, then |
| 16:15 | <gbee> | however juski's grabber is made redundant by the new xmltv grabber which includes icon support |
| 16:16 | <gbee> | juski's grabber used channel names iirc - which works for EIT only channels |
| 16:17 | <gbee> | the xmltv grabber would only work if you manually input the xmltvids |
| 16:17 | <xris> | there's a new xmltv grabber? |
| 16:18 | <gbee> | for the UK, yes |
| 16:18 | <gbee> | thinking about it, it'll never really work for EIT only channels so it's still needed |
| 16:19 | <gbee> | if you're looking for a list of xmltvids and corresponding icons I can send you a copy |
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| 16:20 | <xris> | or channel names vs what's in juski's file |
| 16:20 | <xris> | I'm building a list of callsigns/xmltvids to channel icons |
| 16:20 | <xris> | since I'm hoping we can move that lookup to mythtv.org |
| 16:21 | <gbee> | ok, I'll generate a list - any particular format? comma seperated? |
| 16:21 | <xris> | that's fine |
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| 16:45 | <MrGandalf> | blah |
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| 16:58 | <gbee> | xris: didn't need to do much, all the info needed is provided, ready to use, in the xmltv channel_ids file |
| 16:59 | <xris> | ah, cool |
| 17:00 | <gbee> | http://pastebin.ca/321997 |
| 17:00 | <gbee> | the second field is the radiotimes internal id, you can ignore it |
| 17:01 | <gbee> | third is the channel name |
| 17:01 | <xris> | blech. someone touched the master iconmap |
| 17:01 | <gbee> | it's good enough to get started |
| 17:02 | <xris> | xmitv ids are that low? |
| 17:03 | <gbee> | ? |
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| 17:04 | <gbee> | the xmltvid is the leftmost field |
| 17:04 | <gbee> | e.g. adventure-one.nationalgeographic.co.uk |
| 17:04 | <janneg> | xris: they are strings |
| 17:04 | <xris> | odd. I thought they were all ints |
| 17:04 | <gbee> | they aren't numeric IDs |
| 17:04 | <xris> | mine all are |
| 17:05 | <gbee> | the datadirect ones aren't proper xmltvids |
| 17:05 | <janneg> | xris: that's datadirect |
| 17:05 | <xris> | oh. so it's a ddid put in the xmltvid field? |
| 17:05 | <xris> | I always wondered why dd chose to include the xmltv id. |
| 17:06 | <gbee> | the xmltv spec requires proper xmltvids to comform to RFC2838 |
| 17:06 | <xris> | ahh |
| 17:06 | <gbee> | yeah, the field got reused |
| 17:06 | <xris> | lovely. means I need to add another field to my database, then, I guess. |
| 17:08 | <gbee> | RFC2838 basically states that unique channel identifiers are constructed in the form of a URI |
| 17:08 | <xris> | gotcha |
| 17:09 | <gbee> | although there is no central, authoritative database of them - the ones used by the xmltv grabbers are mostly invented or derived from the channel websites/domains |
| 17:11 | <gbee> | that would be the synopsis of my 5000 word essay on the subject of xmltvids :p |
| 17:14 | <xris> | makes sense |
| 17:16 | <xris> | ok, checked in my massive iconmap changes. heh |
| 17:17 | <xris> | no more zap2it icons. :) |
| 17:18 | <xris> | ah, good. I made xmltvid a text field in the db. |
| 17:18 | <xris> | sqlite is so nice. |
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| 17:26 | <xris> | really wish I could find a list somewhere of all xmltvids |
| 17:26 | <gbee> | this new database, will it allow for users to make changes? |
| 17:27 | <GreyFoxx> | xris: You might end up being the database :) |
| 17:27 | <xris> | still trying to think of a way for that to happen |
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| 17:27 | <xris> | GreyFoxx: yeah, I fear that. |
| 17:27 | <gbee> | xris: best you can probably do is to grab the latest version of xmltv - extract them from the different grabbers |
| 17:28 | <xris> | yeah, I'll have to dig through there. |
| 17:28 | <gbee> | if users, or at least a large vetted group of them can make changes it would make things easier |
| 17:28 | <xris> | believe me, I know |
| 17:29 | <xris> | might build an editor and just fence it off with some htauth |
| 17:29 | <gbee> | :) |
| 17:29 | <GreyFoxx> | store the stuff in an sql db editable from a php script ? |
| 17:29 | <xris> | GreyFoxx: yeah, that's sort of the goal |
| 17:29 | <GreyFoxx> | That's what I did with the game rom stuff, I just don't expose the editor to anyone but me :) |
| 17:29 | <xris> | I'll check it into svn (replacing the current one in master_iconmap/lyngsat/) when I get as much as I can imported. |
| 17:29 | <gbee> | with a little bit of an audit trail, which could double as an update/news page |
| 17:30 | <GreyFoxx> | http://www.phaze.org/romdb/ |
| 17:30 | <xris> | gbee: will probably allow for a user submission form or something, and then devs to ok/deny them |
| 17:31 | <xris> | just not sure how much work I want to put into it at the moment |
| 17:32 | <mikegrb> | Anonymou1e! |
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| 17:33 | <mikegrb> | kvandivo! |
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| 18:00 | <gbee> | up late stuarta |
| 18:03 | <stuarta> | yeah, sadly in windows at the moment :( |
| 18:03 | <stuarta> | haven't even started on the tickets i was going to work on |
| 18:04 | <stuarta> | have however, installed 320Gb of disk space, and made CDs of all my photos from Xmas & NYE down under |
| 18:05 | <gbee> | more than I've acheived |
| 18:06 | <stuarta> | now backing up photos to mp3 player. |
| 18:06 | <stuarta> | it's tomorrow already. blimey! |
| 18:06 | <gbee> | yep |
| 18:10 | <stuarta> | for some reason this doesn't feel late... |
| 18:12 | <gbee> | this time never used to feel late, but lately ... |
| 18:13 | <stuarta> | you admitting to getting old ;-) |
| 18:15 | <gbee> | never! ;) |
| 18:15 | <stuarta> | haha!! |
| 18:15 | <stuarta> | back in a bit. firetrucking reboot needed... |
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| 18:56 | <stuarta> | ahh, finally back to linux :) |
| 18:57 | <MrGandalf> | blah |
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| 19:01 | <sycron> | hi |
| 19:01 | <sycron> | someone here? |
| 19:02 | <sycron> | i have installed Mythtv BUT my subtitels are zo big that the almost take the whole screen , Where can i make them smaller ?? |
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| 19:06 | <stuarta> | not sure how well this auto progressive/interlaced stuff works |
| 19:07 | <stuarta> | i have content that switches between the two |
| 19:07 | <stuarta> | every few frames |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | 2:2 pulldown, or 3:2 if it was from a us source potentially. |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | the current stuff doesn't handle that very well |
| 19:07 | <stuarta> | main stuff i see it on is from Aus. |
| 19:08 | <stuarta> | motor racing |
| 19:08 | <stuarta> | so some of it is fast moving, and some of it is slow moving |
| 19:10 | <stuarta> | but if i wasn't using --verbose playback, i wouldn't notice. |
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| 20:38 | <daum> | egister your IRC nickname (see '/msg nickserv help register' and http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup ), as we've had difficulties with unregistered users. Thanks! |
| 20:38 | <daum> | <cruiseoveride> guess ur all stuck with me |
| 20:38 | <daum> | <daum> hi all, question i have a wireless network, and was wondering, if I have mythtv on one box can i have it write to a hard drive for recording on a different box? |
| 20:38 | <daum> | * Piotrek_Nielo |
| 20:38 | <daum> | doh |
| 20:38 | <daum> | copy and paste/hates me |
| 20:39 | <daum> | anyways any idea if it would work |
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| 22:28 | [~] | Likwuid_Ice just had his mysql database go kaput. Can anyone help me restore the default mythtv user and database? |
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| 23:39 | <_Sam--> | evenin -- why cant the process of "updating music database" be backgrounded so that users can still do other things while that task is performed? |
| 23:39 | <_Sam--> | it doesnt seem like that process takes much resources to accomplish |
| 23:40 | <_Sam--> | i could easily be watching a video or something while its updating my databse... |
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