| --- | Log | opened Tue Jan 23 00:00:30 2007 |
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| 00:27 | <Skiingsean> | hey all im trying to install mythtv on an fc6 install so i can try to get my FusionHDTV card to work :/ but before any of that the atrpms repo is complaining about gpg errors.. anyone know of any other repos i can use |
| 00:42 | <xris> | Skiingsean: you're more likely to get an answer if you ask in the correct channel. |
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| 01:02 | <Skiingsean> | xris thanks.. i figured that part out.. now muddling through my botched sql issues :) |
| 01:02 | <Skiingsean> | can you tell me where the mythtv confs are stored by default |
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| 01:20 | <xris> | Skiingsean: Sure, if you ask in the correct channel |
| 01:20 | <Skiingsean> | Ahhh :) |
| 01:20 | <Skiingsean> | lol gotchas |
| 01:20 | <Skiingsean> | thanks |
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| 03:29 | [~] | stuarta trouts the OSX build script. |
| 03:29 | <stuarta> | for doing a checkout of svn inside my checkout of svn |
| 03:29 | <gbee> | eww |
| 03:30 | <stuarta> | yeah, i downloaded it for a reason.... |
| 03:30 | <gbee> | your new mac? |
| 03:30 | <stuarta> | yep :) |
| 03:31 | <stuarta> | hopefully will have a frontend built by the time I get home |
| 03:31 | <gbee> | what did you go for? |
| 03:31 | <stuarta> | mini mac/ 1.66 core duo / 2g ram / 80G |
| 03:33 | <gbee> | nice |
| 03:33 | <stuarta> | very. even comes with a remote control. oooo! |
| 03:43 | <gbee> | bah, damn insurance company paid out on the wrong claim |
| 03:44 | [~] | stuarta raises an eyebrow inquisitively... |
| 03:45 | <gbee> | I've got personal accident insurance - found out after my accident in London that they would pay out for the scars on my face (£4000) |
| 03:45 | <stuarta> | ouch. |
| 03:46 | <gbee> | just got a cheque - £30 for hospitalisation, no mention of the claim for scarring |
| 03:46 | <stuarta> | useless |
| 03:46 | <gbee> | so now I've got to chase them |
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| 09:31 | <MrGandalf> | Damn, my buggy mythbackend has been running for 4 days now.. |
| 09:32 | <stuarta> | 4 days? wot bug :) |
| 09:32 | <MrGandalf> | must be the bug plaguing me is a unitialized variable |
| 09:32 | <MrGandalf> | stuarta: the one relating to the loop you looked at |
| 09:33 | <MrGandalf> | I found the trigger for that loop.. pip in the recordings screem |
| 09:33 | <stuarta> | in the watch recordings screen? |
| 09:33 | <stuarta> | aka preview video? |
| 09:33 | <MrGandalf> | sec |
| 09:35 | <MrGandalf> | yes (sorry, talking with a stupid ass customer) |
| 09:37 | <stuarta> | i've seen that before. excessive rapid searching for a show to watch... |
| 09:38 | <stuarta> | caused excess preview threads to be generated. |
| 09:39 | <stuarta> | that fit the cause & effect you are seeing? |
| 09:43 | <MrGandalf> | yes |
| 09:44 | <MrGandalf> | so I just disabled that option |
| 09:45 | <stuarta> | gbee & I were talking about that the other day. |
| 09:45 | <MrGandalf> | but the segfault.. dunno about that one. It seems to hit me right after a power outage and after I recompile Myth.. sounds like an unitialized variable |
| 09:45 | <gbee> | eh |
| 09:45 | <stuarta> | whens the last time you tried a valgrind on that puppy? |
| 09:46 | <MrGandalf> | last time you asked me to :) |
| 09:46 | <stuarta> | gbee: think we're gunna have to fix the preview issue if daniel hasn't already. |
| 09:46 | <MrGandalf> | valgrind isn't very usefull though.. |
| 09:46 | [~] | gbee catches up |
| 09:47 | <gbee> | ahh, yes, hmm |
| 09:47 | <MrGandalf> | it makes the backend unusable therefor it won't catch anything in say recording threads.. |
| 09:47 | <stuarta> | hmmm, might do some (checks schedule...) |
| 09:48 | <stuarta> | during the day tomorrow |
| 09:48 | <stuarta> | found that mine will still record while valgrinding... |
| 09:49 | <MrGandalf> | I'm running on a dual P3 933.. not quite enough horsepower.. |
| 09:49 | <stuarta> | that'll be the problem |
| 09:50 | <MrGandalf> | but I'm amazed that apparently those are my only two bugs on the backend.. |
| 09:50 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: you around? |
| 09:50 | <stuarta> | are your broadcasts somewhat noisy? |
| 09:50 | <MrGandalf> | one of mine is.. small dish |
| 09:51 | <stuarta> | it's probably the underlying pes assembler issue, that only crops up with lots of broken packets |
| 09:51 | <MrGandalf> | when it gets really bad (storm) by backends do become somewhat unstable |
| 09:51 | <MrGandalf> | yes |
| 09:52 | <stuarta> | that'll be it then... |
| 09:53 | <MrGandalf> | yes, I get garbled portions of the video at times (fairly frequently half the time) but the signal doesn't look that bad, according to femon |
| 09:53 | <MrGandalf> | and I think the signal and snr are pretty accurate on a nexus |
| 09:55 | [~] | stuarta phone |
| 10:00 | <stuarta> | yeah, the garbled picture is the indication of a big burst of errors |
| 10:00 | <stuarta> | a little burst of errors seems to be enough to trigger it. |
| 10:00 | <stuarta> | although never when anyone is looking at it :( |
| 10:02 | <MrGandalf> | I'll just get a bigger dish in the spring :) |
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| 10:13 | <janneg> | Chutt: ffmpeg sync is complete and seems to work fine. I think it would be good if someone reviews it |
| 10:13 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: I'm here |
| 10:15 | <Chutt> | i can review it |
| 10:16 | <janneg> | does anyome think that another theme format (16:10) is useful? |
| 10:17 | <janneg> | Chutt: would you prefer a patch or commits to a svn branch? |
| 10:18 | <Chutt> | just a patch. |
| 10:18 | <Chutt> | and, no, we're not going to support 16:10 |
| 10:19 | <Chutt> | the only stuff that's 16:10 is computer monitors. |
| 10:19 | <janneg> | ok, the patch is 2.6M. I'll send it later |
| 10:20 | <Chutt> | ijr@speakeasy.net, or you can stash it in your homedir on the svn server |
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| 11:07 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: quick question, with your new signal monitor stuff, what's the easiest way to have Myth ignore an encrypted channel and complete the tune? |
| 11:07 | <MrGandalf> | I have a channel that has encrypted video but one of the audio PIDs is FTA. |
| 11:08 | <MrGandalf> | (and advertised as such on their web site) |
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| 11:20 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: remove the if in dtvsignalmonitor.cpp::HandleEncryptionStatus |
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| 11:29 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: I was hoping for a config option :) That will effect all of my channels. I was thinking that maybe setting ftaonly in cardinput to 0 would do the trick.. but then again that effects much more than a single channel as well. |
| 11:30 | <MrGandalf> | I'll have to play around.. do you think me adding another column to channel would be too drastic? |
| 11:32 | <janneg> | for overriding the encryption monitor? yes. a clean solution would be to add a channeltype flag (radio|tv|...) and succeed for radio channels then at least one audio channel is unencrypted |
| 11:33 | <MrGandalf> | ah, good idea |
| 11:34 | <MrGandalf> | and have the scanner fill that in.. I remember someone mentioning that before.. |
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| 13:22 | <janneg> | strange, with mythtv file I can almost playback HD h264 but mythfrontend is unuseable with the same file |
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| 13:23 | <stuarta> | janneg: seen the same effect. |
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| 13:23 | <stuarta> | tho i didn't have the backend running when I played it back with mythtv file |
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| 13:25 | <janneg> | stuarta: It's a regression of the ffmpeg merge for me. backend is running here but it shouldn't matter |
| 13:26 | <stuarta> | this is without the merge for me |
| 13:31 | <stuarta> | think we need to make new frontend use "english" as the default language, not "afar" |
| 13:49 | <stuarta> | how difficult would it be to enhance mythvideo so that it can optionally stream the files from the backend rather than using nfs |
| 13:51 | <gbee> | stuarta: thought the language defaults had already been fixed months back? |
| 13:51 | <stuarta> | not as far as I can see. i even deleted all settings with the hostname i'm using for the minimac |
| 13:52 | <stuarta> | i'll have to have a look at the code tho |
| 13:54 | <gbee> | one ticket and one commit relating to it - [10223] and #670 |
| 13:55 | <gbee> | neither seems to actually fix anything |
| 13:55 | <stuarta> | doh! |
| 13:55 | <GreyFoxx> | Anyone here running under kernel 2.6.19.1 ? |
| 13:56 | <GreyFoxx> | I've got a weird problem that's cropped up since I updated my kernel |
| 13:56 | <GreyFoxx> | Regular recordings playback is slightly faster than before. Almost a little faster than "realtime" in that if I'm 3 seconds behind in an inprogress recording after a half hour I actually catch up and playback exits thinking I hit the end of the file |
| 13:57 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: no - tried it on Sunday and it broke too much on my system so I reverted to 2.6.17 |
| 13:57 | <janneg> | GreyFoxx: not atm, I'm already at 2.6.20-rc5 |
| 13:57 | <GreyFoxx> | And when playing back non recorded stuff it's even worse. Not unwatchable, but noticable as all voices have a slightly chipmunky sound |
| 13:57 | <GreyFoxx> | A few other people mentioned the same problem and I wasn't sure what it was |
| 13:58 | <janneg> | I had no problems, but I'm not sure if I used 2.6.19.1 that much |
| 13:58 | <GreyFoxx> | Maybe I'll give 2.6.20rc* a try heh, it's bugging me :) |
| 13:58 | <GreyFoxx> | I went from 2.6.12.5 to 2.6.19.1 |
| 13:59 | <xris> | GreyFoxx: I am on my frontend |
| 13:59 | <janneg> | GreyFoxx: and you should update to 2.6.19.2. 2.6.19 and 2.6.19.1 have a nasty file corruption bug |
| 14:00 | <GreyFoxx> | doh |
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| 14:02 | <janneg> | GreyFoxx: no panic, it's not triggered that often |
| 14:03 | <GreyFoxx> | well I was gonna try another kernel anyway. The fast/chipmunk voices is really bugging my wife :) |
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| 14:03 | <GreyFoxx> | My diskless frontends all run 2.6.16.20 and don't have it, but my main frontend with 2.6.19.1 is just killing her :) |
| 14:04 | <GreyFoxx> | I'm curious, what HZ value do you have set in your kernel ? |
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| 14:12 | <janneg> | 250hz since I'm in PAL land, 2.6.20* has 300hz |
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| 14:13 | <GreyFoxx> | Mine is the kernel default, 250. |
| 14:20 | <MrGandalf> | you guys running HD? |
| 14:20 | <MrGandalf> | should increase that hz setting |
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| 14:24 | <stuarta> | 1000 here |
| 14:25 | <GreyFoxx> | No HD here other than some 1080 sample recordings. |
| 14:25 | <GreyFoxx> | stuarta: See much difference with that ? |
| 14:25 | <stuarta> | just found it seemed to give better overall responsiveness |
| 14:25 | <GreyFoxx> | Maybe I'll give it a shot since I'm playing with stuff anyway |
| 14:26 | <stuarta> | i'm quite sensitive to my system being busy without giving me a look in |
| 14:48 | <MrGandalf> | I ramped mine all the way to 10000, but that's a frontend machine running the database as well/ |
| 14:49 | <MrGandalf> | you need AT LEAST 1000 with HD playback |
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| 14:52 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: for h264 HD playback with mythtv? I can play my recordings fine with cureent mplayer at ~90% |
| 14:52 | <MrGandalf> | I mean for any HD playback.. |
| 14:53 | <MrGandalf> | I had mine at 250 and got stuttering |
| 14:53 | <MrGandalf> | at 10000 my mpeg2 HD is perfect |
| 14:53 | <MrGandalf> | unless EIT really starts kicking up the database.. |
| 14:55 | <janneg> | mpeg2 HD works here with 250hz |
| 14:55 | <MrGandalf> | must be really fast machine.. |
| 14:55 | <MrGandalf> | 1080i? |
| 14:57 | <GreyFoxx> | My box (xp2500+) can play 1080i with a HZ of 250 |
| 14:57 | <GreyFoxx> | but I'll give the 1000 a shot anyway :) |
| 14:58 | <janneg> | athlon64 x2 3800 with 1080p |
| 14:59 | <MrGandalf> | faster than mine.. only have a 3000+ OC 1080i |
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| 15:22 | <gbee> | guys, thanks for the discussion, it prompted me to realise that it might be the cause of my laptop hanging |
| 15:23 | <gbee> | I hadn't noticed that at least some of the kernels distributed by Mandriva were using 1000 instead of the default 250 |
| 15:23 | <stuarta> | what's the laptop on? |
| 15:24 | <gbee> | a table |
| 15:24 | <gbee> | :p |
| 15:24 | <GreyFoxx> | Woop, went to 2.6.19.2 (1000HZ) and now playback seems to back to normal. The chipmunk voices are no more :) |
| 15:24 | <stuarta> | nice! |
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| 15:27 | <stuarta> | either the commflagger has just become more efficient of XFS is a lot faster than reiserfs |
| 15:27 | <stuarta> | s/of/or |
| 15:32 | <gbee> | stuarta: laptops using 1000 - depending on your point of view 250/100 is better for power consumption by a few %, but more importantly the lower values may play better with some hardware/acpi etc |
| 15:35 | <gbee> | just a theory - but having already tried just about everything I could think of, I'm recompiling the kernel to see if it makes a difference :) |
| 15:36 | <gbee> | I'm pretty certain the earlier kernels I was using were @250 - the hanging only started in the last few months (laptop is 18 months old) |
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| 16:34 | <Snow-Man> | xris: Did ya'll get the drive back? |
| 16:40 | <xris> | Snow-Man: beats me. heh |
| 16:40 | <Snow-Man> | I didn't get a tracking # or anything. :/ |
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| 16:46 | <xris> | ah. looks like 426422560014947, so it looks like they haven't even shipped it yet. |
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| 17:33 | <MrGandalf> | damn it, that loop again |
| 17:33 | <MrGandalf> | I really need to figure out a way to combine my backends.. this is rediculous. |
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| 17:56 | <janneg> | Chutt: the patch is in my home directory |
| 17:59 | <janneg> | I didn't merge one change into configure. ffmpeg has exchanged $cpu and $arch. The change makes sense but I have left it for later since we have much own cpu related code in configure |
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| 18:14 | <xris> | ooh... just discovered the most awesome setting for mysql... log-queries-not-using-indexes |
| 18:15 | <xris> | (only works for mysql 5) |
| 18:15 | <xris> | just enabled it on my mythbox, though... |
| 18:16 | <xris> | why look.. the jobqueue query doesn't touch an index.... |
| 18:16 | <xris> | yay, this is going to be fun. |
| 18:17 | <smka> | how is commercial detected |
| 18:19 | <xris> | smka: depends on which method you pick. |
| 18:19 | <xris> | but it's not a trivial thing |
| 18:20 | <smka> | what methods are there? |
| 18:22 | <Chutt> | janneg, thanks, I'll look over that tonight. |
| 18:24 | <xris> | smka: I would recommend either looking in the code or the settings in the frontend |
| 18:24 | <GreyFoxx> | xris: that's cool! |
| 18:24 | <xris> | (since you're asking in this channel instead of the users channel, I'm going to assume that you would prefer the code) |
| 18:24 | <xris> | GreyFoxx: yeah. already fixed a HUGE speed hole at work. 30-50% speed increase on a common set of queries. |
| 18:26 | <xris> | and all because briand pointed me at mysqlard (also a cool tool) |
| 18:30 | <gbee> | xris: very cool |
| 18:30 | [~] | gbee goes on a tour of his mysql servers |
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| 18:32 | <Chutt> | xris, you should be able to fix queries in the code, right? |
| 18:33 | <gbee> | also installed mysqlard locally - unfortunately, it requires high volumes of queries to produce accurate results, yet the time I want to make optimisations is in development and it's hard to replicate high traffic volumes in that environment |
| 18:37 | <xris> | Chutt: yup. just by adding indexes for most of them |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 18:50 | <janneg> | Chutt: you're welcome. the resync doesn't fix my h264 HD playback problem. I have dropped frames even though the frontend uses less than 80% cpu (scene dependent) |
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| 19:10 | <xris> | man, a lot of these sql queries need to be cleaned up for readability |
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