| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 09 00:00:45 2007 |
| 00:58 | <gbee> | it was added after 0.20 |
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| 01:23 | <xris> | so to get channel icons from the backend... just a standard file transfer? |
| 01:27 | [~] | xris wonders how hard it would be to expand that to send music and video files, too |
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| 01:43 | <xris> | ok, definitely some wacky stuff in the file xfer code in the backend. |
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| 05:59 | <CDev> | xris: you do know that you can retrieve the channel icons, videos, music & recordings using the xml methods. |
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| 07:32 | <gbee> | CDev: have you written any client libs or just server stuff? |
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| 08:05 | <CDev> | gbee: Mostly just the server stuff.. However, I will most likely need to put together a client library to fully utilize the methods needed for autodiscovery. |
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| 08:13 | <gbee> | ok I was just toying with the idea of making mythmusic use the uPnP/XML code to access files remotely - seems silly to write a new server or extending the myth protocol if the current xml methods can already do it |
| 08:14 | <gbee> | might even do something at the weekend |
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| 08:19 | <CDev> | gbee: keep in mind that I will be commiting a change to the methods that changes the xml format and the url needed during the request (I've been treatenning a commit for a couple of weeks now, but keep finding things to do) |
| 08:20 | <CDev> | I'm almost done with my latest changes, and once I feel I've tested them enough, I will commit them. |
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| 08:27 | <gbee> | CDev: no worries, If I start work on this I probably won't be committing anything useful or usable for a few weeks and can easily adjust to any changes |
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| 08:39 | <MoRpHeUz> | CDev: how the url will look like after your changes ? probably this will affect the patch I sent to you, right ? =) |
| 08:40 | <CDev> | MoRpHeUz: It justs adds a Myth after the port and capitalizes the method name... i.e. http://server:6544:/Myth/GetRecorded |
| 08:41 | <MoRpHeUz> | ow, ok.. |
| 08:41 | <MoRpHeUz> | it'll be easy to modify =) |
| 08:41 | <CDev> | It should require no or little changes to you patch (which I can take care of when I merge it) |
| 08:41 | <MoRpHeUz> | CDev: that's ok! thanks! =) if you want me to change this, just tell me.. =) |
| 08:42 | <CDev> | MoRpHeUz: once I complete my changes, I'll take a closer look at you patch, and will let you know if it needs major changes. |
| 08:43 | <CDev> | (I don't think it will) |
| 08:45 | <MoRpHeUz> | CDev: ok! =) |
| 08:50 | <stuarta> | gbee: since you've been poking around the translations lately |
| 08:50 | <stuarta> | can you comment on the translations in the eitfixup on 3180 |
| 08:50 | <stuarta> | i'm thinking they shouldn't be translated here... |
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| 08:51 | [~] | gbee goes to have a look |
| 08:53 | <stuarta> | i'm going to take the ticket anyway... |
| 08:54 | <gbee> | hmm, well it is the right place to translate them, but maybe not the best place |
| 08:55 | <gbee> | we expect the categories to be placed into the database in the native language and we make no attempt to translate them later on, they are displayed untouched |
| 08:55 | <stuarta> | ahh, i was getting confused after the film/movie thing... |
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| 08:56 | <gbee> | yeah, what we really need is a similar fixup for the UK so that 'movie' is translated to 'film' |
| 08:57 | <stuarta> | that shouldn't be too hard to whip up. might have a bit of time on the weekend |
| 08:57 | <gbee> | the important bit is the category type, which must be 'movie' for canned searches etc to work |
| 08:58 | <stuarta> | right, and they all look okay, apart from a lot of use of Category_None |
| 09:00 | <gbee> | putting translations, and fixups in general into the code is a little bit cumbersome though (we've covered it before) - would be good if fixups could be dynamically loaded and used like translations, or at the very least broken down into country specific files maybe as virtuals? |
| 09:00 | <stuarta> | it's tied to the netid,transportid out of necessity |
| 09:02 | <stuarta> | mmmm, thinking we can expand on the current categoryType list (see dvbdescriptors.h:372) |
| 09:03 | <gbee> | stuarta: probably |
| 09:03 | <stuarta> | at minimum add Documentary & Kids |
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| 09:08 | <gbee> | I think I might propose the addition of category types to the xmltv spec, we would then be able to take advantage of them better for searching |
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| 09:31 | <MrGandalf> | exit |
| 09:31 | <MrGandalf> | done |
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| 09:44 | <gbee> | anyone got the xml retrieval methods working? |
| 09:45 | <CDev> | gbee: having problems? |
| 09:48 | <gbee> | just messing about, getting a feel for things, GetRecorded returns nothing (maybe I'm getting the parameters wrong) and GetMusic throw a 404 |
| 09:48 | <gbee> | obviously that should read getRecorded and getMusic |
| 09:48 | <CDev> | Are you using MythXMLTest in the contrib directory or are you just using a browser? |
| 09:49 | <gbee> | both (and GET) |
| 09:50 | <CDev> | Keep in mind that it's all case sensitive. |
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| 09:52 | <gbee> | hmm, confused getRecorded and getRecording |
| 09:52 | <CDev> | GetRecorded returns xml data of all recorded programs. |
| 09:52 | <CDev> | GetRecording returns the actual video file. |
| 09:55 | <gbee> | getRecorded works fine, getRecording returns a 404 header |
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| 09:56 | <CDev> | hum. Working Fine here. What is the query string you're trying? |
| 09:57 | <gbee> | http://scarfell:6544/getRecording?ChanId=1074&StartTime=2007-03-09T12:28 |
| 09:57 | <gbee> | http://scarfell:6544/getMusic?Id=26042 |
| 09:58 | <CDev> | They look ok. ( the 28 secs looks odd, are you using the starttime, or RecStartTime?) |
| 09:59 | <CDev> | Just make sure you use the startTime from getRecorded data. |
| 10:00 | <gbee> | ahh, I'm using recstarttime |
| 10:00 | <CDev> | doesn't explain the music request not working. |
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| 10:02 | <gbee> | hmm, still doesn't work |
| 10:03 | <gbee> | btw should StartTime include seconds? the XMLTest stuff suggests not |
| 10:04 | <CDev> | Works both ways for me (with & without seconds) |
| 10:04 | <CDev> | Do you have the backend running with -v upnp? |
| 10:05 | <gbee> | yep, no output |
| 10:05 | <gbee> | except for methods which are working |
| 10:05 | <CDev> | strange |
| 10:05 | <CDev> | Let me test my production box... maybe I fixed something without knowing it. |
| 10:06 | <gbee> | hmm running with -v database shows that it's looking up the files |
| 10:07 | <gbee> | well at least for getMusic |
| 10:08 | <CDev> | I'm getting 404 - not found on my production box. :-( |
| 10:08 | <CDev> | Then again... nothing seems to be working. (Checking into it) |
| 10:10 | <gbee> | brb |
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| 10:30 | <CDev> | gbee: Not sure what's happening with current SVN. MythWeb generates previews fine (it uses the xml method getPreviewImage), but when I request the same image using wget, I get a 404. |
| 10:32 | <CDev> | I put some debug statements in and it's failing when I call ProgramInfo::GetProgramFromRecorded(...) |
| 10:35 | <gbee> | hmm, just tried the test pages again and it's working |
| 10:35 | <gbee> | maybe because I was supplying bad params before |
| 10:36 | <gbee> | doesn't explain why it's not working with GET though, unless it requires the method be POST? |
| 10:36 | <CDev> | It should work with a get or post. |
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| 10:37 | <CDev> | (querystring, form post, or SOAP request - all should work) |
| 10:37 | <CDev> | I know I had to put "s around the querystring when I was using wget. |
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| 11:03 | <gbee> | heh, got a good reason why the getMusic request may not be working - it hasn't been updated for the addition of music_directories |
| 11:04 | <xris> | gbee: ? |
| 11:04 | <xris> | what'd I miss? |
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| 11:09 | <GBee1> | ok, how much of what I said got sent before my machine froze? |
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| 11:09 | <xris> | (09:03:39) gbee: heh, got a good reason why the getMusic request may not be working - it hasn't been updated for the addition of music_directories |
| 11:10 | <xris> | that's all I saw, but I only just logged in |
| 11:11 | <gbee> | xris: thanks |
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| 11:18 | <xris> | hahaha |
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| 11:18 | <xris> | :) |
| 11:18 | <xris> | no flooding. :) |
| 11:19 | <gbee> | what did I flood, did actually see anything? :) |
| 11:20 | <xris> | didn' |
| 11:20 | <stuarta> | it was a silent flood... |
| 11:20 | <xris> | didn't see anything. just that you got kicked for flooding |
| 11:20 | <gbee> | odd |
| 11:21 | <gbee> | http://pastebin.ca/387795 |
| 11:22 | <xris> | really should make the column names explicit |
| 11:22 | <xris> | but I understand that most of the rest of the code doesn't, either |
| 11:22 | <xris> | e.g. d.path, s.filename |
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| 11:24 | <gbee> | it's easier to read granted, I've always tended to abbreviate them to keep the overall length down |
| 11:24 | <xris> | easier to maintain, and to figure out what's going on to build indexes, too. |
| 11:25 | <gbee> | sure |
| 11:26 | <gbee> | should probably be CONCAT_WS actually, if path is null CONCAT won't produce the right result |
| 11:27 | <xris> | does that work with mysql 3.2? |
| 11:27 | <xris> | afk, meeting. |
| 11:28 | <gbee> | just checked, yes |
| 11:28 | <xris> | can you get a directory id with a null path? |
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| 11:29 | <xris> | ok, really afk now |
| 11:30 | <gbee> | xris: yes, the root directory |
| 11:30 | <gbee> | hmm, actually it's probably empty, not NULL, but that's easily fixed |
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| 11:57 | <CDev> | xris: looking for the perl bindings... can't even find where they are :-( |
| 11:58 | <janneg> | CDev: bindings/perl |
| 11:58 | <CDev> | doh! |
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| 12:00 | <xris> | CDev: they're supposed to install by default now |
| 12:00 | <gbee> | after re-running configure? |
| 12:01 | <xris> | ? |
| 12:01 | <CDev> | I see them, but it looks like they are only dealing with the MythProtocol... you said I need to update them with my XML changes... Did I understand correctly? |
| 12:04 | <xris> | CDev: I thought I had done the preview pixmap stuff via xml, but apparently didn't |
| 12:04 | <xris> | so no big deal, then. :) |
| 12:05 | <CDev> | np... Just trying not to miss anything. I think I'm at the point where I can do a final test (when I get home) with my upnp devices and then commit tonight (assuming I don't find any issues). |
| 12:05 | <gbee> | ok this is a little better http://pastebin.ca/387839 |
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| 12:12 | <CDev> | gbee: let me know when you have the music code tested. It will no longer be in httpstatus.cpp after I commit and would be easier for both of us if I just apply it now before I commit. |
| 12:13 | <gbee> | sure |
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| 12:19 | <xris> | gbee: you went the really verbose route. :) |
| 12:19 | <gbee> | xris: yeah ;) |
| 12:20 | <xris> | the "80 columns max" thing can be a bit annoying. |
| 12:20 | <gbee> | ok, works fine |
| 12:21 | <CDev> | I know I'll get in trouble for this comment, but I don't follow the "80 column limit" rule in my files. |
| 12:21 | <gbee> | xris: it can |
| 12:21 | <xris> | cool |
| 12:21 | <xris> | gbee: http://forevermore.net/rants/Software+and+the+Internet/Indenting%2C+Brackets+and+Comments (mainly to point out the indenting in the sql stuff) |
| 12:21 | <xris> | doesn't really apply here, but I like readable code. :) |
| 12:23 | <xris> | I don't even know if strings in c++ can cross lines like that. |
| 12:23 | <CDev> | just close and qoutes and then re-open them |
| 12:24 | <gbee> | "SELECT * FROM " |
| 12:24 | <gbee> | "this_table WHERE 1;" |
| 12:24 | <gbee> | etc |
| 12:26 | <xris> | ah, it auto-concats? |
| 12:28 | <xris> | doesn't keep the newline, though... although I suppose it'd be easy enough to add with \n or something |
| 12:33 | <gbee> | yep |
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| 12:36 | <gbee> | CDev: got everything working now, problem with getRecording was just a matter of using the correct time (not recstarttime) and escaping the url when using Get |
| 12:37 | <CDev> | cool |
| 12:39 | <gbee> | I revert my changes to httpstatus if you're going to apply the changes? |
| 12:43 | <CDev> | If you already committed them, I'll just do the merge. |
| 12:45 | <gbee> | I've not committed them, I meant in my local tree |
| 12:46 | <CDev> | oh. Sure, can you give me the final changes again. I will add them right now. |
| 12:46 | <gbee> | anyone know of an svn command which removes files not under revision control from the local copy? |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | svn status, grep for the ?, rm? |
| 12:47 | <gbee> | http://pastebin.ca/387932 |
| 12:48 | <gbee> | Chutt: can do that, just wondered if it had a builtin thing which did the same job :) |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | i don't think so |
| 12:49 | <CDev> | gbee: thanks. Just added the change. |
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| 13:17 | <CDev> | Chutt: Available for a quick question? |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 13:18 | <Chutt> | was that the quick question? =) |
| 13:18 | <CDev> | I pulled some code out of mythcontext and created a global function called GetInstallPrefixPath. I needed the same code before mythcontext was created. Do you see any issue with me doing that? |
| 13:19 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:19 | <CDev> | fair enough. (don't like making changes to mythcontext ) |
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| 13:46 | <Chutt> | Captain_Murdoch, the live-tv not disconnecting when the frontend goes away's a bug. the code's all there for it to work properly, and i've never managed to repro it not working properly. |
| 13:49 | <gbee> | I can't really reproduce it, but if my frontend hangs I do see it happen |
| 13:50 | <jams> | I get it fairly often, anything I should look for when it happens? |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | the code in the backend & mythsocket.cpp that detects a socket disconnect |
| 13:52 | <gbee> | actually I can repro, just needed to pull the network cable on my backend |
| 13:52 | <jams> | seems to happen more often when using svideo input as compared to using the analog tuners |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | gbee, that should time out eventually |
| 13:53 | <gbee> | ahh yeah it did *shrug* |
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| 14:07 | <jams> | I find it intresting that scheduled recordings still work, and then the tuner goes right back into "live-tv" mode when the scheduled recording is done. |
| 14:22 | <CDev> | wow! A full compile from a distclean only took 8 minutes! (using distcc on 3 dual processor VM's running under VMWare on a quad core vista 64bit system) |
| 14:23 | [~] | CDev wonders how fast it could be if he loaded linux directly on the quad core |
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| 14:36 | <MrGandalf> | blah' |
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| 14:59 | [~] | xris might get a new dual quad core (or quad dual core) box to play with at work. |
| 15:01 | <CDev> | xris: its nice to have... I haven't been able to max out all 8 cores yet . |
| 15:02 | <xris> | this is the "we need power, we have free hardware" fix |
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| 15:03 | <CDev> | :-) |
| 15:03 | <CDev> | I had to pay for mine :-( |
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| 15:06 | <xris> | we have lots of free beta processors from intel |
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| 15:08 | <xris> | (hence the choice between dual quad or quad dual) |
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| 15:08 | <kormoc> | should do quad dual with a mobo that supports quad quad... |
| 15:09 | <xris> | yes... |
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| 16:26 | <xris> | Chutt: you have any problems with me working to rewrite the LocalFile function (or whatever it's called) that checks to see if a requested file transfer is a valid file? |
| 16:27 | <xris> | would like to figure out some way to use nonstandard locations for channel icons, as well as add hooks for transfering videos/music files, etc. |
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| 16:51 | <briand> | good afternoon, xris and kormoc's laptop. :) |
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| 16:54 | <xris> | kormoc with the shiny new macbook. |
| 16:54 | <briand> | woooOOOoo |
| 16:54 | <briand> | uncle sam kindly deposited my tax refund today |
| 16:54 | [~] | xris fears that fixing the file sending thing would probably entail something really ugly like an "allowed directories" array |
| 16:55 | <briand> | so, now there's an HDHomeRun on it's merry way to my door. |
| 16:55 | <xris> | briand: nice. mine was over $1900. :) almost enough for a new roof. |
| 16:55 | <xris> | blech |
| 16:55 | <briand> | fortunately for me, 1) my roof is okay, and 2) the homeowner would buy a new one, if necessary. :) |
| 16:56 | <kvandivo> | much better off owing $999 in taxes each year. Tax refunds are a psychological faux pax. |
| 16:56 | <briand> | true. |
| 16:57 | <briand> | but if i kept the money to myself during the year, it'd disappear. this way, I *know* I won't have an "extra" bill once a year. |
| 16:58 | <xris> | kvandivo: true. but in my case, it'd be owing a lot more than that. I only have one withholding. I get so much back because my wife is in school. |
| 16:58 | <briand> | xris: what is currently considered a "local file" ? |
| 16:58 | <xris> | briand: anything with /channels/ in the path, or a recording. |
| 17:00 | <xris> | my problem is that I stored all of my channel icons in /var/video/.channel-icons/ |
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| 17:00 | <briand> | symlink? |
| 17:00 | <xris> | yeah, that's how I got around it for now |
| 17:00 | <xris> | but it's annoying |
| 17:01 | <xris> | imho stuff like that shouldn't be stored in a homedir |
| 17:01 | <xris> | either way, it'd be nice to be able to request mythvideo/mythmusic files, too. |
| 17:01 | <xris> | even without direct interaction between the backend and mythvideo/etc. |
| 17:01 | <briand> | I'd agree... except the "mythtv" user is really just the application (or should be) login account |
| 17:02 | <briand> | so in that scenario, the /home/mythtv/.mythtv directory should be "fair game" for whatever localizations, configurations, etc are necessary |
| 17:03 | <xris> | briand: except that the backend runs as root, and I often run mythfrontend as myself (or root) |
| 17:03 | <xris> | and non-login users like daemon accounts (for those who don't want to run the backend as root) shouldn't have an entry in /home |
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| 17:04 | <briand> | mythtv isn't a non-login user... it needs a WM and a shell |
| 17:05 | <briand> | ...that said, I do understand your point... |
| 17:05 | <xris> | briand: there are distros that use "mythtv" as the backend user, too.. |
| 17:05 | <xris> | either way, my icons used to be in /home/xris/.mythtv/ |
| 17:05 | <briand> | why not /usr/local/share/mythtv/* for that stuff, then? |
| 17:05 | <xris> | you don't store data in share |
| 17:05 | <xris> | that technically goes somewhere under var |
| 17:06 | <xris> | Captain_Murdoch and I briefly talked about the idea of creating something under the primary storage group for storing things like video cover art, channel icons, etc. |
| 17:06 | <briand> | is it data, really, though, as far as the app is concerned? |
| 17:06 | <xris> | briand: it's downloaded, changed, etc. outside of the package itself |
| 17:06 | <briand> | I look at that more as 'configuration' than 'data'. the data is *.mp? files |
| 17:06 | <xris> | but frankly, it'd be just as easy to store the stuff in the db itself. |
| 17:06 | <xris> | channel icons are jpg or png or whatever |
| 17:06 | <briand> | true, in blobs |
| 17:07 | <xris> | and smallish blobs. |
| 17:07 | <briand> | i meant to ask you, when I had your ear... |
| 17:07 | <briand> | are there png icons (with transparent backgrounds) available on lyngsat? |
| 17:07 | <briand> | it'd be nice to get rid of the big white squares... |
| 17:08 | <xris> | no, lyngsat is all about all of their icons being a standard size/format |
| 17:08 | <xris> | so they're all jpg |
| 17:08 | <xris> | or smaller versions as gif |
| 17:08 | <briand> | hmm. |
| 17:08 | <xris> | the lookup code now links against o_cee's swedish png icons, but that's only good for swedish users. |
| 17:09 | <briand> | do you think it'd be worth the time/trouble/diskspace for your server to cache png versions, then? ...at least for the popular ones? and maybe a wiki page with the line to feed to your favorite shell-based graphics manipulation program to change .jpg -> .png with transparency |
| 17:09 | <briand> | I'm assuming the lyngsat 'standard' uses the same color "white" for all their backgrounding... |
| 17:11 | <CDev> | xris: you know there are XML methods to retrieve channelicons, videos, recordings, songs... |
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| 17:16 | <briand> | anyway.. on my other point: themes (and their associated elements) are also editable/downloadable from sources outside the application. I should think storing channel icons there is as valid as storing themes there. one might argue they are, in fact, part of the theme(s). |
| 17:20 | <gbee> | there is a discrepancy in the channel icon code, the OSD and programme guide code looks in different places - one uses the protocol to get icons from the backend, the other only looks locally |
| 17:20 | <gbee> | I've been meaning to fix that |
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| 17:21 | <gbee> | don't ask which does which, I can't remember just now ;) |
| 17:21 | <briand> | ;) |
| 17:21 | <briand> | and good afternoon, gbee. |
| 17:22 | <gbee> | it's night here and I really should be in bed, but good afternoon anyway |
| 17:22 | <briand> | indeed. i keep forgetting your on the other side of the pond |
| 17:23 | <briand> | s/your/you\'re/g |
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| 18:36 | <prekitt> | Hi everybody |
| 18:36 | <prekitt> | anyone using a remote wonder II |
| 18:37 | <xris> | CDev: didn't know about the xml stuff for videos or music, no. I'll have to poke at it tonight. it would really help kormoc with the mythvideo stuff he's working on |
| 18:44 | <briand> | prekitt: you're probably looking for #mythtv-users (see the topic?) |
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| 19:54 | <mark_> | do I need to use QT4 to develop a plugin (and have it be usable by the mainstream) or do I want QT3? |
| 19:54 | <GreyFoxx> | Myth is QT3 only :) |
| 19:54 | <mark_> | k, thanks |
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| 20:10 | <sigger_> | what's the right library package (debian) to use for dev? whole lotta them. libqt3-mt-dev? |
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| 22:17 | <sigger_> | anyone around? compiling mythhello (plugin stub from wiki) in prep for writing a plugin but I'm getting errors. |
| 22:18 | <sigger_> | I must be missing some header files/libs: uitypes.h mythdialogs.h |
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| 22:18 | <xris> | sigger_: please direct compile questions to the -users channel (even if it's prep for dev stuff) |
| 22:18 | <sigger_> | ok thx |
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| 22:24 | <MrGandalf> | blah |
| 22:25 | [~] | xris things gbee missed the xml downloading resource stuff when he added the new musicdirs table |
| 22:27 | <gbee> | I did but I've already supplied the fix to CDev |
| 22:27 | <xris> | gbee: gotcha |
| 22:27 | <xris> | was going to start using that for mythweb's music stuff |
| 22:27 | <xris> | anything to reduce cache dirs in mythweb, etc. |
| 22:30 | <xris> | gbee: got a link to the patch? |
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