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00:54 | <Demerzel> | hello folks ... |
00:54 | <Demerzel> | i've been trying to locate some documentation on developing mythtv plugins but haven't found much |
00:54 | <Demerzel> | i seem to remember there being some dox on the main mythtv site but can't seem to locate it |
00:55 | <Demerzel> | i thought i'd look for a #mythtv channel on freenode and luckily one exists :) |
00:55 | <Demerzel> | long and short ... is there some dox on developing mythtv plugins ... standard practises etc? |
00:57 | <Demerzel> | *crickets* |
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01:09 | <Demerzel> | so ... |
01:09 | <Demerzel> | is there noone awake in the channel? :) |
01:09 | <Demerzel> | one would think hackers would be awake at all times of the day |
01:09 | <xris> | Demerzel: apparently no one who knows the answer |
01:09 | <Demerzel> | a ha! :) |
01:10 | <Demerzel> | xris: go figure ... do you do any development w/ myth? |
01:10 | <xris> | yup |
01:10 | <xris> | but nothing that would be much help to you.. mythweb + nuvexport |
01:12 | <Demerzel> | sweet ...sweet |
01:12 | <Demerzel> | sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfhmmm |
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01:13 | <Demerzel> | weird |
01:14 | <Demerzel> | xris: any tips on someone who wants to get started? |
01:14 | <xris> | the general suggestions are: fix bugs, submit patches. :) |
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01:14 | <xris> | there are a number of plugins that need help, too. |
01:14 | <Demerzel> | xris: is there a vetting process for patches? |
01:15 | <Demerzel> | or a "mentor" to attach to for this purpose? |
01:15 | <Demerzel> | or even standard guidelines to adhere to? |
01:15 | <xris> | not sure. |
01:15 | <xris> | brb |
01:15 | <Demerzel> | k |
01:17 | <xris> | generally, people hang out here or on the -dev mailing list. |
01:17 | <xris> | things are often a bit unorganized as far as who does what. |
01:17 | <Demerzel> | understood ... open source tends to be that way at times ... |
01:18 | <Demerzel> | specially with a young project like myth |
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01:18 | <Demerzel> | well i've been looking over mythweather and it looks like if i work with main.cpp i should be able to create a hello world plugin at least |
01:19 | <Demerzel> | after that, it'll be blown wide open :) |
01:19 | <xris> | mythtv isn't all that young |
01:19 | <xris> | there should be a sample plugin in the official docs |
01:19 | <Demerzel> | ah .. that's what i'm looking for then ... |
01:19 | <Demerzel> | and maybe i got the wrong impression w/ the version number ... |
01:20 | <Demerzel> | i've only been a user since 0.19 i think |
01:21 | <xris> | started around 2002 |
01:22 | <Demerzel> | wow |
01:22 | <Demerzel> | it's definitely been around for a while |
01:22 | <xris> | I've been using it for about 4 years, deving for at least 3 |
01:23 | <Demerzel> | sweet |
01:23 | <Demerzel> | i've a feeling you'll be answering a lot of my questions in the near future :) |
01:23 | <Demerzel> | 3 years makes you mentor material |
01:23 | <xris> | maybe. I don't know anything about the C++ code. |
01:23 | <mikegrb> | heh |
01:23 | <Demerzel> | oh ho ho :) |
01:24 | <Demerzel> | another mentor awakes perhaps? |
01:24 | <mikegrb> | xris: weren't you the original author of mythweb or did it predate you? I'm pretty sure I was using mythweb four years ago |
01:24 | [~] | xris goes back to cleaning the house for his bday party tomorrow. |
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01:24 | <mikegrb> | happy birthday |
01:24 | <Demerzel> | happy birthday! |
01:25 | <xris> | mikegrb: was originally written by a guy named Thor, who hasn't done much dev work in a couple of years. |
01:25 | <mikegrb> | ok, I think I remember that now that you mention it |
01:25 | <mikegrb> | I definately remember Thor |
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01:25 | <xris> | when I took over, the colors went from white to blue |
01:25 | [~] | mikegrb nods, I remember that change |
01:25 | <Demerzel> | nice |
01:25 | <mikegrb> | and then we got things like thumbnail images ;) |
01:26 | <xris> | heh |
01:26 | <xris> | just wait for .21 :) |
01:26 | <Demerzel> | so wait ... how is it you don't know anything about c++? :) |
01:26 | <Demerzel> | isn't that a requirement for writing plugins? |
01:26 | <mikegrb> | well I am sad to say we don't actively use mythtv at the moment |
01:26 | <xris> | Demerzel: mythweb's written in php |
01:26 | <xris> | it's not really a plugin. more like a pseudo frontend |
01:26 | <Demerzel> | ah |
01:26 | <Demerzel> | in that case ... first question: are there plans to port it to run on apache2? |
01:27 | <mikegrb> | it originally just talked to the db and not the mythcode at all |
01:27 | <xris> | Demerzel: huh? I've been running it under apache2 for ages |
01:27 | <Demerzel> | mythcode meaning ... the myth protocol? |
01:27 | <mikegrb> | sure |
01:27 | <xris> | mikegrb: it talked to the backend a little. not as much as it does now. |
01:27 | <Demerzel> | xris: oh cool ... for some reason on gentoo i seem to remember it required apache1 |
01:27 | <mikegrb> | xris: before you? |
01:27 | <Demerzel> | maybe i need to lay off the crack |
01:28 | <mikegrb> | maybe for recording status or some such |
01:28 | <xris> | mikegrb: yeah, I didn't write the original mythbackend.php file |
01:28 | <xris> | yeah |
01:28 | <mikegrb> | oh well, not that it matters much at present time |
01:28 | <xris> | and once the xml/upnp stuff settles out a bit, I may be able to pull out a lot of the db code. |
01:28 | <xris> | (meaning, once I have time to actually learn to use it) |
01:29 | <xris> | anyway, really afk now. |
01:29 | <mikegrb> | see ya |
01:29 | <Demerzel> | later xris |
01:29 | <Demerzel> | mikegrb: do you do any myth development? |
01:30 | <mikegrb> | I have submitted a few tiny patches that were accepted |
01:30 | <mikegrb> | so writing a plugin is your aim |
01:30 | <Demerzel> | nice |
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01:30 | <Demerzel> | yeah ... i've been thinking of something i'd find useful |
01:31 | <Demerzel> | basically a torrent plugin (i haven't looked at torrentocracy in detail since it's for 0.11) |
01:31 | <Demerzel> | that can hook into the scheduler eventually |
01:31 | <Demerzel> | and act as a third "tuner" so to speak |
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01:31 | <Demerzel> | second tuner even |
01:31 | <mikegrb> | when I followed development more closely the common answer was to take a simple plugin like mythgame and start there |
01:31 | <Demerzel> | third if you've got two tuners :) |
01:31 | <mikegrb> | ohh |
01:32 | <Demerzel> | yeah i looked at mythweather |
01:32 | <mikegrb> | if you want to interface with the scheduler I don't think you can do that from a plugin |
01:32 | <mikegrb> | at least, not back when |
01:32 | <mikegrb> | would need code in the backend as well as frontend |
01:32 | <Demerzel> | and i think i can putz my way to a hello world plugin |
01:32 | <mikegrb> | yeah |
01:32 | <Demerzel> | mikegrb: indeed ... i figured i'd initially get the data model setup and a ui setup |
01:33 | <mikegrb> | could probably get away with a plugin for the frontend side |
01:33 | [~] | mikegrb nods |
01:33 | <Demerzel> | the plugin would be a springboard so to speak ... |
01:33 | <mikegrb> | aye |
01:33 | <Demerzel> | starts out as that and finally adds backend integration |
01:34 | <Demerzel> | and i figure as much as everyone loves mythtv ... sometimes the best way to catch a TV episode that you just missed ... or catch up on a TV series from S01E01 is to hit the torrent sites |
01:34 | <Demerzel> | integrating that into the mix would be a boon to me at least :) |
01:34 | <mikegrb> | indeed |
01:35 | <Demerzel> | plus it'll get me back into c++ |
01:35 | [~] | Demerzel cracks his knuckles |
01:35 | <mikegrb> | I think quite a few people would like the ability to have the scheduler put off a higher priority show knowing that the series is heavily torrented to free up the tuner |
01:35 | <mikegrb> | for something us |
01:35 | <mikegrb> | s/us/else/ |
01:35 | <Demerzel> | hopefully |
01:35 | <Chutt> | uh, wouldn't ever be accepted into myth. |
01:36 | <Demerzel> | once i get the feel for plugin development ... i'll be better able to determine how to design this thing |
01:36 | <Demerzel> | chutt: legal issues? |
01:36 | <Chutt> | ya think? |
01:36 | <Demerzel> | chutt: not usually .. but every now and then i'm forced to :) |
01:36 | <Chutt> | obviously. |
01:36 | <Demerzel> | chutt: it can remain an unofficial plugin |
01:37 | <Chutt> | there's already an unofficial torrent plugin. |
01:37 | <Demerzel> | get it into gentoo's portage |
01:37 | <Demerzel> | chutt: yeah it's meant for 0.11 tho |
01:37 | <Chutt> | you might want to try doing something useful, instead? |
01:37 | <Demerzel> | torrentocracy |
01:37 | <Demerzel> | chutt: what do you suggest? |
01:38 | <Chutt> | learning how to use a search engine, first. |
01:38 | <Chutt> | then asking questions :p |
01:38 | <Demerzel> | haha |
01:38 | <Demerzel> | i've been trying that :-/ |
01:38 | <Demerzel> | either google's getting bad or i'm sucking ... |
01:38 | <Demerzel> | er .. no comments on that |
01:38 | <Demerzel> | :) |
01:39 | <Demerzel> | i just found a link on a forum to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Plugins:HelloMyth |
01:39 | <Demerzel> | so i'll get outta everyone's hair for now |
01:39 | <Demerzel> | but i'll be back :) |
01:42 | <Demerzel> | later folks |
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02:05 | <xris> | damn, missed out on getting to do the "no torrents" lecture. |
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03:14 | <some_dude_> | is there a bug in mythtranscode that makes it hog all of my CPU. Even when I tell it "low priority" in mythtv-setup? |
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04:43 | <gbee> | seems to be a bug in the storage groups code - it's using a LiveTV location for recordings |
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10:18 | <JoeBorn> | woohoo! connected |
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10:35 | <momelod> | hello people |
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10:38 | <momelod> | got a quick question: i've been running mythtv w/ a hauagpauage pvr-150 card capturing standard cable tv on the cards tuner. I remember when i set it up i had to loop the audio from the mic or something. Now i have connected my satilite stb to the composite interface on the capture card. I plug the sound from the stb into the mythbox with a Y cable and im not getting any sound with the picture? |
10:39 | <momelod> | for some reason i cant find that link i used regarding the looping of the mic and i beleive this is where my problem is |
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10:54 | <jd86> | momelod, #mythtv-users |
10:54 | <momelod> | jd86: thanx |
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13:25 | <eulin> | hi all |
13:27 | <eulin> | I need to change the mythtv 's recordings location. |
13:27 | <eulin> | Are there any problem if I cut&paste all file to new location? |
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13:37 | <briand> | xris: Happy Birthday!! |
13:38 | <xris> | thanks. :) |
13:38 | <eulin> | xris, Buon Compleanno!!(= Happy Birthday) ;-) |
13:40 | <xris> | eulin: grazzi |
13:43 | <briand> | np. :) |
13:43 | <briand> | just, now, you'll have to remember mine!! Muhahahaha (you've got until 12/19) |
13:43 | <briand> | ;) |
13:44 | <briand> | hey.. did you change the manner in which mythweb fetches the little preview pics in the 'Recordings' screen? |
13:44 | <briand> | they had all been working, umm.. well, recently... but now, they're not. |
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13:45 | <gbee> | 19th Dec? |
13:45 | <gbee> | I think I'll remember that one |
13:46 | <briand> | how so, gbee? |
13:46 | <briand> | do we share a birthday? |
13:46 | <gbee> | aye |
13:46 | <briand> | :) cool. |
13:46 | <CDev> | briand: They are now using an xml method GetPreviewImage... |
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13:47 | <gbee> | it's odd, some of my preview images work, others dont - same goes for the actual recordings |
13:47 | <briand> | CDev: ahh... well, the "path" to the image on the generated web page contains some HTML code with tags and some spaces (%20) and the word "Error" |
13:47 | <xris> | briand: you the one who's been putting in bug reports? |
13:48 | <briand> | the preview files themselves (well, at least a ton of 'em) exist in the recordings directory |
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13:48 | <briand> | xris: umm, no. first, mine would be a bit more detailed. ;) |
13:48 | <briand> | and secondly, I wouldn't keep re-opening it if it was closed. :) |
13:49 | <gbee> | xris: if GetPreviewImage fails for some reason we are writing 0 size images to the cache dir - which prevent mythweb from retrying |
13:49 | [~] | gbee wasn't the one who opened the ticket either |
13:49 | <briand> | CDev (and/or xris): could it be erroring because I've re-enabled the "--noupnp" flag on mythbackend? |
13:49 | <xris> | briand: yes |
13:49 | <xris> | since the images come via upnp |
13:49 | [~] | briand sighs. |
13:50 | <CDev> | briand: I would be curious why you are still having upnp issues. |
13:50 | <briand> | well, the problem here is that if I don't use the --noupnp flag, mythbackend goes into 99.9% CPU usage and (not quite, but might as well...) crashes the machine, usually shortly after mfdb runs (and completes) |
13:50 | <briand> | CDev: you and me both! ;) |
13:51 | <CDev> | Shouldn't have anything to do with mfdb/ |
13:51 | <briand> | i wouldn't think, and perhaps that's just coincidental |
13:51 | <eulin> | gbee, maybe you can help me :-) If I want to change the mythtv'recordings dir without loss data I nee only to cut&paste the file? |
13:51 | <CDev> | The only 99.9% cpu issue I've had was related to extra bytes being sent by the XBox 360 upnp stack. |
13:52 | <briand> | my memory of the problem before was that it seemed to do it shortly after mfdb ran (i let datadirect tell me when to run it) |
13:52 | <briand> | and, again the other day, it failed within a minute after mfdb finished running |
13:52 | <CDev> | strange. |
13:52 | <briand> | exactly. i'll need to do some (further) poking/prodding/testing with it |
13:53 | <briand> | obviously when i'm around the house and can hit the big red switch |
13:53 | <briand> | the machine gets so 'busied' that my ssh sessions close out, mythweb/mythwelcome/mythfrontend all think the backend has gone away, etc |
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13:54 | <CDev> | Just so you know... the upnp stuff is going to be used for a lot more features, so any help you can give in finding this issue, the better everyone will be. |
13:54 | <briand> | no local keyboard or mouse response, either.. kinda nasty without getting "actually nasty" |
13:54 | <briand> | CDev: granted. and I'm more than willing to help troubleshoot the problem. |
13:54 | <GreyFoxx> | if you have 0 access... how do you know mythbackend is going to 99% ? |
13:54 | <gbee> | eulin: best ask that sort of question in #mythtv-users, but I don't think moving the files will cause a problem |
13:55 | <briand> | I just hope it doesn't boil down to some issue with my specific hardware or something |
13:55 | <CDev> | briand: It's going to be had to get a backtrace if you don't have access to the machine :-( |
13:55 | <CDev> | s/had/hard |
13:55 | <eulin> | gbee, thank you I've forgot the users channel |
13:56 | <briand> | (ps: not running anything out of the ordinary. Asus P4V8X-MX mb with a 2.8GHz Celeron chip on it) |
13:57 | <briand> | CDev: yeah.. i *think* when it first happens (at least the -last- time I had the issue, back when GreyFoxx told me about the --noupnp flag), I can squeeze in a few quick commands via ssh before my session is closed out from under me |
13:58 | <CDev> | briand: I'll look through the code again, and see if I can find any obvious "potential loops" |
13:59 | <briand> | CDev: okay. and I'll work on trying to get an easily reproducible scenario here, without having to wait (up to) 24 hours for mfdb to run again, etc. |
13:59 | <briand> | once I have that info, I can turn on verbose logging to a separate file and give you a few gigabytes of logs (just kidding) to comb thru |
13:59 | <CDev> | :-) any information that helps. |
14:00 | <briand> | :) |
14:01 | <briand> | this is why I'd like to get it easily reproducible first -- then I can simply turn on full logging for boot thru error, and not have to wade (or have you wade) through thousands of lines of 'normal' before the error occurs |
14:05 | <briand> | GreyFoxx: sorry... didn't see your message earlier. |
14:05 | <briand> | GreyFoxx: I was running `top` via ssh, and it was still on the terminal screen after the connection quit out |
14:10 | <jd86> | anyone having trouble getting icons in mythweb to appear (svn trunk) some do, most don't. |
14:10 | <jd86> | oh.. oops, meant to use mythtv-users |
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14:28 | <gbee> | is there any need for --disable-upnp any more? as mythweb increasingly uses the xml methods and potentially mythmusic does too, it'll cause some confusion |
14:28 | <CDev> | gbee: I don't think so, but I didn't want to make that decission. |
14:30 | <gbee> | it does represent a security hole in some setups (shared networks), but that's the only reason I can think of for it to be disabled |
14:31 | <briand> | gbee: i may be a bit biased, but I propose it be retained (at least) for a bit longer, as I cannot maintain stability on my myth system without it. :) |
14:32 | <gbee> | briand: obviously once your problem is fixed, but then again forcing people to use upnp would be the best way to expose any remaining bugs |
14:34 | <xris> | CDev: could always just make the flag disable only the broadcast side of things? (is there such a thing?) |
14:35 | <CDev> | Yes: I could have it block the SSDP services. |
14:36 | <xris> | since the rest of the stuff is passive, and shouldn't make much of a difference. |
14:36 | <CDev> | I'd prefer to find the problem. (like gbee said...more exposure...) |
14:37 | <CDev> | The code I'm working on for the frontend, would require ALL part of upnp to be active. |
14:37 | <CDev> | got to go snowblow the driveway... be back later. |
14:39 | <gbee> | even making disabling the active broadcast doesn't make it secure on shared networks, with an inspired bit of guesswork or just patience I could download songs/recordings from your machine without permission - for example |
14:42 | <gbee> | and although I'd prefer to believe that the xml methods are secure, the possibility may still exist for them to be exploited by a more sophisticated attack to perhaps modify or access other files on the system |
14:42 | <xris> | gbee: true |
14:43 | <GreyFoxx> | if someone is forced to run it on a shared network and they don't want others accessing it, they should packet filter |
14:43 | <gbee> | all of which could be guarded against, if the option to specify a whitelist/blacklist of IPs existed, strictly for those using a shared network |
14:43 | <GreyFoxx> | Or we just allow a list of accepted IP/s or ranges like a hosts.allow file |
14:43 | <xris> | gbee: hosts.allow, hosts.deny |
14:43 | <xris> | there are times when it's appropriate to use the tools already in place in the OS |
14:45 | <gbee> | xris: so long as the user is given clear warning of that in the docs and maybe even during setup |
14:46 | <GreyFoxx> | even now with the mythprotocol anyone could connect to your backend, get a list of shows and download them, delete them, or get/change settings in your settings table without having access to your mysql database |
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14:49 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: true |
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14:50 | <gbee> | not so easy to abuse as typing http://someserver:6544/Myth/GetRecording?ChanId=123&StartTime=5676 into an ordinary web browser - but still a valid point |
14:51 | <gbee> | short of installing mythfrontend of course ;) |
15:23 | <jd99> | would it be appropriate to open trac bug for crashing backend? |
15:23 | <briand> | hopefully, such a ticket would say more than "mythbackend keeps crashing". |
15:23 | <briand> | ;) |
15:24 | <jd99> | oh yes, i've been doing gdb things and strace and been fighting with quite a while... but no one in mythtv-users has came up with any ideas and no responses to post on mythtv-users list... |
15:28 | <jd99> | briand, do you think I should ask in here? the message when joining made me think not. |
15:29 | <briand> | it's not for me to say. if you've actually found a bug (as opposed to a misconfigured myth system), there's no harm in it |
15:29 | <briand> | but, more often than not, it boils down to something going awry on a particular system because of certain error messages that go unseen/unread/ignored, etc. |
15:32 | <jd99> | yeah, thats why I typically do not want to bother people in here, I am actually using svn trunk... and I didn't do much of anythign prior to having problems (a few days prior I did setup slave backend) and it seems to do the same thing when it crashes, and seems to happen after commercial flagging has finished. |
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15:47 | <AMD> | hi devs |
15:47 | <AMD> | great work on mythtv |
15:47 | <AMD> | ;) |
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16:35 | <milan> | hey i have a problem after reinstalling my fglrx driver live tv in mythtv is too wide |
16:35 | <milan> | seems like it's 16:9 always |
16:35 | <milan> | and pressing W isn't working |
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16:38 | <hads> | milan: Wrong channel |
16:39 | <milan> | hads: wich channel do i need? |
16:39 | <hads> | /topic |
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16:42 | <milan> | ? |
16:42 | <milan> | i don't understand you |
16:43 | <milan> | ow |
16:43 | <milan> | sorry |
16:43 | <hads> | :) |
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17:21 | <clever> | hads: we should just change #mythtv to support and add a #mythtv-dev |
17:22 | <clever> | would fix alot of those n00bs:P |
17:23 | <hads> | It's nothing to do with me |
17:39 | <GreyFoxx> | clever: Will never happen |
17:40 | <clever> | why not? |
17:40 | <GreyFoxx> | Because it has been discussed over nad over and decided so |
17:40 | <clever> | lol |
17:40 | <GreyFoxx> | like it or not, we do expect users to read the topic on joining |
17:40 | <GreyFoxx> | and the bot that usually is in here and messgaes you |
17:41 | <clever> | i dont think it msged me when i last joined |
17:41 | <GreyFoxx> | It might not be here |
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17:41 | <GreyFoxx> | but it is also smart enough not to msg everytime you join |
17:41 | <GreyFoxx> | but it is also smart enough not to msg everytime you join |
17:41 | <clever> | ahhhh |
17:41 | <clever> | and i saw that msg of yours twice |
17:42 | <GreyFoxx> | cause I sent it twice |
17:42 | <clever> | could have been sent 3 times and i lost one while hoping:P |
17:44 | <clever> | 69% formated... |
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18:03 | <Keithamus> | Hey dudes and dudettes - quick question if you please; whats the deal with HDTV on mythtv? |
18:04 | <Keithamus> | Can it or can it not play .evo files? |
18:04 | <Keithamus> | Is it hacky also? |
18:05 | <hads> | Keithamus: Wrong channel |
18:06 | <Keithamus> | sucks |
18:06 | <Keithamus> | sorry, forgot. |
18:06 | <Keithamus> | I do apologise. |
18:06 | <hads> | :) |
18:06 | <Keithamus> | thanks for the heads up |
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22:30 | <Chutt> | heh |
22:30 | <Chutt> | bunches of people just got unsubscribed from commits and users (probably dev soon) |
22:30 | <Chutt> | all gmail, 'user over quota' |
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22:41 | <briand> | remind me again why I never bothered to get a gmail account |
22:55 | <briand> | CDev: okay, after pouring thru the log file, it looks like the mfdb run prior to the crash was anecdotal. |
22:56 | <briand> | CDev: it finished. 00:59:59.467 mythfilldatabase run complete. |
22:56 | <briand> | CDev: then, 3 seconds later: 00:00:03.232 TVRec(1): Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
22:57 | <briand> | CDev: and : 00:00:03.254 TVRec(1): Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
22:58 | <briand> | and -that- is where it stopped. Never finished setting up to record the show (Nova on PBS, I think) |
22:58 | <briand> | so, maybe it got into the loop somewhere in that code. |
22:59 | <briand> | sry: log at 00:03.254 is: 00:00:03.254 TVRec(1): HW Tunder: 1->1 |
23:00 | <briand> | next thing in the log is when I discovered/rebooted at 17:39:25.306 |
23:01 | <jd99> | Chutt, I don't think I've been getting some user messages :-\ notably my own message |
23:02 | [~] | briand snickers. |
23:02 | <Snow-Man> | email address? |
23:02 | <jd99> | psunit@gmail.com |
23:02 | <jd99> | and i was bounced from commits, I had to reactivate that one for sure. |
23:02 | <Snow-Man> | Got a message-id? |
23:02 | <jd99> | for the commits? |
23:02 | <Snow-Man> | For the mail you sent that you didn't get.. |
23:03 | <jd99> | oh... no, i can view it in the archives... or could I get that from message in my sent? |
23:03 | <Snow-Man> | It should be in your sent folder, heh. |
23:04 | <Snow-Man> | Mar 17 19:22:54 www postfix/smtp[3597]: 21DC0C24738: to=<psunit@gmail.com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.93.27]:25, conn_use=2, d |
23:04 | <Snow-Man> | elay=94, delays=0.62/78/0.16/15, dsn=5.2.2, status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.93.27] said: 552 5.2.2 User over quota e1 |
23:04 | <Snow-Man> | si5337955ugf (in reply to RCPT TO command)) |
23:04 | <jd99> | Message-ID: <1cc03f380703161631h4d00e2f0l6942412758173da8@mail.gmail.com> |
23:04 | <Snow-Man> | nm, that's the error google's returning. |
23:04 | <jd99> | that one? |
23:04 | <Snow-Man> | "User over quota" |
23:04 | <jd99> | You are currently using 79 MB (2%) of your 2829 MB. that doesn't make sense to me. |
23:04 | <Snow-Man> | Bitch at google. |
23:05 | <jd99> | I will do just that. |
23:05 | <hads> | Ask for a refund :) |
23:05 | <jd99> | Maybe I will have it sent to my own email and have it forwarded there. |
23:05 | <jd99> | hads, :-) |
23:05 | <briand> | CDev: log snippet @ http://pastebin.ca/399666 |
23:06 | <jd99> | its the least of my problems, but I'm hoping to get my backend running stable again and not getting replies (which there have been none yet :( ) to my problem aren't cool. |
23:06 | <Snow-Man> | That time is in UTC, so that would have been ~8.5 hrs ago. |
23:06 | <Snow-Man> | (for the last bounce I saw, which was at 19:22 UTC) |
23:06 | <Snow-Man> | yesterday, of course. |
23:07 | <Snow-Man> | Other bounces: 12:08, 11:18 |
23:08 | <Snow-Man> | Looks like it was a systemic problem at google. |
23:08 | <Snow-Man> | I see at least 4 other cases right around that time. |
23:09 | <Snow-Man> | err, actually, alot more than that, hah |
23:09 | <briand> | Snow-Man: did u see chutt's msg a few minutes ago? |
23:09 | <briand> | Chutt bunches of people just got unsubscribed from commits and users (probably dev soon) |
23:09 | <briand> | Chutt all gmail, 'user over quota' |
23:10 | <jd99> | alright, i complained at google |
23:11 | <Snow-Man> | Actually, that hit 529 gmail addresses. |
23:11 | <Snow-Man> | yup. |
23:11 | <Snow-Man> | Anyhow, sleep time. |
23:14 | <briand> | g'nite |
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