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| 00:38 | <sigger_> | Chutt, my current thinking is to have mythmusic present itself as a faux-mpd. i.e. accept a telnet connection from an mpd client as if it were actually mpd. |
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| 02:57 | <grndslm> | wow...is it just me or is linux mce really the hotness?? |
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| 03:11 | <t0ny-p40> | grndslm, linux + mythtv = rulez! :) |
| 03:12 | <t0ny-p40> | If I want to rename a recorded file do I have the change anything other then the table recorded? |
| 03:12 | <grndslm> | t0ny-p40: so the new interface stuff is in mythtv then...and linuxMCE adds nothing new to the htpc experience?? |
| 03:13 | <t0ny-p40> | linuxmce? |
| 03:13 | <grndslm> | yea, i just read it on digg...but there's a lotta UI stuff that's new to me |
| 03:14 | <grndslm> | t0ny-p40: http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/Screenshots |
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| 03:14 | <grndslm> | and of course, there's linuxmce.com, but there's no way to download anything yet |
| 03:14 | <grndslm> | as far as i can tell |
| 03:14 | <knowledgejunkie> | grndslm: This is the wrong channel to discuss this. Please use #mythtv-users. |
| 03:15 | <grndslm> | ya ya... |
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| 07:54 | <stuarta> | gbee: had a quick look at your valgrind output |
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| 08:21 | <gbee> | anything interesting? didn't really look that closely myself - eventually figured out that the memory growth I was witnessing in mythmusic had nothing to do with the file scan, it was just the music metadata being loaded up in the background (so normal if not exactly efficient) |
| 08:22 | <stuarta> | a few things that maybe need looking at, but nothing glaringly bad |
| 08:23 | <stuarta> | sometimes it's not a "leak" but a "growth" and you have to ask valgrind to tell you about that mem as well |
| 08:23 | <stuarta> | --show-reachable=yes |
| 08:25 | <gbee> | aye, was using 'show reachable' after producing that one - couldn't exactly remember the arguments I normally used for valgrind ;) |
| 08:26 | <stuarta> | it's a big horrible long list. IIRC someone copied it into the howto |
| 08:28 | <stuarta> | valgrind --tool=memcheck --error-limit=no --leak-check=full --log-file=logfile -v -- /usr/local/bin/mythbackend --verbose siparser,record,eit | tee backend.log |
| 08:28 | <stuarta> | what i generally use.. :) |
| 08:29 | <stuarta> | hmmm, nothing recording or scheduled for today. good day for a valgrind... |
| 08:29 | [~] | gbee notes that down but is bound to forget that he has done so |
| 08:30 | <stuarta> | tis a good day for a full distclean |
| 08:31 | [~] | gbee should not get too used to talking in the third person, he might start doing it real conversation |
| 08:32 | <gbee> | s/it/it in/ |
| 08:32 | <gbee> | need to get some lunch |
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| 08:35 | <Cardoe> | myth protocol being dropped for UPnP? |
| 08:35 | <stuarta> | can't see that happening |
| 08:35 | <GreyFoxx> | Not dropped no. Just upnp being utilized for a lot more stuff |
| 08:39 | [~] | stuarta valgrinds the backend for fun. |
| 08:39 | <Cardoe> | GreyFoxx: alright. Makes sense. |
| 08:40 | <Cardoe> | stuarta: if you're doing it on amd64... really make sure you are on a recent version |
| 08:40 | <Cardoe> | there were a lot of false positives with stuff in older versions |
| 08:40 | <stuarta> | amd64 running i386. still not upgraded! |
| 08:41 | <stuarta> | i always try and use the latest. done lots of valgrinding so am used to the crap it throws |
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| 10:09 | <gbee> | hmm, someone should take a look at the memory usage of mytharchive - just getting to the 'Create DVD' page results in a doubling of the memory normally used by mfe |
| 10:09 | <gbee> | 1065m 698m 13m S 0.0 69.6 4:20.04 mythfrontend |
| 10:10 | <gbee> | compared to 628m 265m 13m S 0.7 26.4 4:20.59 mythfrontend |
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| 10:10 | <stuarta> | yeah, it's nasty |
| 10:12 | <gbee> | it's not even done anything at that point - could understand it using a bit during the burning etc but not when just loading the plugin/displaying the Create DVD page |
| 10:13 | <gbee> | mythmusic does something similar, although not as bad |
| 10:13 | <stuarta> | i've seen it take 600-700Mb |
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| 10:17 | <sigger> | gbee: Capt Murdoch spent a bit of time chatting with me last eve re Network Control (telnet) for mythmusic. His preference was for mythmusic to have its own network control. So now I'm taking a look at adopting his network control code to implement mpd's protocol and attaching it to mythmusic. |
| 10:18 | <gbee> | sigger: ok |
| 10:18 | <sigger> | I don't expect it to be very invasive. Just some interthread communication stuff I think. Otherwise is separate code. |
| 10:20 | <gbee> | hmm don't really understand mytharchive, I gave it a list of files, chose the dvd theme, was shown the list of files again - hit finish and I'm shown a 'log viewer' with nothing happening |
| 10:21 | <stuarta> | did that for me for a while. |
| 10:22 | <stuarta> | find the actual log file, probably missing one of the python deps |
| 10:22 | [~] | stuarta goes to get a cup of tea |
| 10:23 | <gnome42> | gbee: check top of mythburn.py for list of deps |
| 10:26 | <gbee> | gnome42: thanks, thought I had everything on that list - would be nice if it warned the user about missing deps |
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| 10:29 | <gnome42> | gbee: Yeah, I was in that mysterious void as well :) |
| 10:30 | <stuarta> | there is definitely some room for improvement in the usability/friendliness stakes |
| 10:30 | <gnome42> | agreed, it's the file selector window being so tiny that drives me nutz |
| 10:31 | <gbee> | it looks very pretty and it's obvious a lot of work has gone into it, but ... |
| 10:34 | <gbee> | well I've got the deps installed and it's still not doing anything :( |
| 10:34 | <stuarta> | not just with mytharchive, overall |
| 10:38 | <gbee> | yeah - picking on mytharchive at the moment simply because I can't get it to do what I want ;) |
| 10:38 | <gnome42> | gbee: any logs produced in the archive logs dir? progress.log/mythburn.log |
| 10:43 | <gbee> | no logs |
| 10:43 | <gbee> | actually no, I lie - was looking in the wrong place |
| 10:44 | <gbee> | ok it's missing the python mysql module - which is odd as I would have sworn it was installed |
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| 10:50 | <gbee> | of course, only now that I've started the process have I remembered that the QT 3.3.8 bug causes mytharchive to fail >:( |
| 10:50 | <perlmonkey> | problems with new PVR 150 card :( |
| 10:51 | <gbee> | well so I'm told |
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| 10:58 | <stuarta> | bugger |
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| 11:07 | <onweed> | lo |
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| 15:10 | <doc_> | hello :) |
| 15:11 | <xris> | doc_: /topic? |
| 15:12 | <doc_> | yup |
| 15:12 | <doc_> | i've one doubt about mythtv development |
| 15:13 | <doc_> | by using the port 6544, returns BE status ... is coded so ? |
| 15:13 | <xris> | it would generally have to be, yes. |
| 15:13 | <doc_> | or should be patched to get status in other way ? like plain text, web service, etc... |
| 15:13 | <xris> | but that's still not really a development question |
| 15:13 | <doc_> | oh, sorry |
| 15:13 | <xris> | the second part of your question was, sort of, though. |
| 15:14 | <doc_> | :/ |
| 15:14 | <xris> | port 6544 is html, it's supposed to be that way |
| 15:14 | <GreyFoxx> | doc_: port 6544 is html (returns xml when used with the upnp related calls) |
| 15:14 | <doc_> | GreyFoxx: right... |
| 15:15 | <doc_> | GreyFoxx: i'm looking on how to get BE status and use it without parsing html |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | so get the xml status instead. |
| 15:15 | <doc_> | right, using upnp ? |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | uh, no? |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | by using a different url? |
| 15:15 | <doc_> | uh.. which one ? :? |
| 15:15 | <GreyFoxx> | lynx -dump http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:6544/ |
| 15:16 | <GreyFoxx> | that will return the page in plaintext |
| 15:16 | <GreyFoxx> | can be scripted around and parsed easily |
| 15:16 | <doc_> | right :) |
| 15:16 | <Chutt> | i believe it's just ip:6544/xml |
| 15:16 | <GreyFoxx> | yup |
| 15:17 | <doc_> | thanks a lot :) |
| 15:17 | <xris> | Chutt: you see my note last night about donations? |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | xris, no |
| 15:18 | <xris> | achew22 in the users channel is working with a group that will be working with "underprivileged youth" to refurbish/sell older computers (possibly with mythtv on them). He wants to make sure some of the profits make it back to mythtv |
| 15:19 | <xris> | for now, I just told him to send it to the EFF or akilidada.org (nonprofit I'm involved with), since I think you've done similar stuff in the past. |
| 15:19 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:19 | <Chutt> | that's fine |
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| 15:20 | <Chutt> | better to donate to random charity of choice |
| 15:20 | <xris> | yup. he seemed a little taken aback by people not wanting to get paid. heh. |
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| 15:22 | <xris> | he said he might still send you some beer. :) |
| 15:23 | <Chutt> | unless he's talking serious amounts of cash |
| 15:23 | <Chutt> | then... =) |
| 15:24 | <xris> | said it'd be around $10 per system sold, and was about $80 now... if the project goes well, they might get some financial backing and sell new machines, etc. |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 15:25 | <xris> | yeah, wasn't all that much to start |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | if it were an actual company offering |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | then, perhaps it'd be different, but, not from that situation |
| 15:30 | <xris> | sort of what I figured. |
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| 15:45 | <crayzee> | I asked mythfrontend to delete a file about 10 minutes ago, and it is still using 100%CPU (thankfully I have a dual core processor)... Why is this? Is it a bug? |
| 15:48 | [~] | clever points to the topic |
| 15:51 | <crayzee> | Sorry, I thought bugfixing would be something of developments interest. |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | once you've got it traced down to where the bug is, sure. |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | repeatable test case, etc. |
| 15:53 | <clever> | ive come across a few 'bugs' which turned out to be user error |
| 16:03 | <briand> | only a few? |
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| 17:45 | <janneg> | Chutt: do you plan to commit the lock_fix patch? I'm using it without problems and usleepless tested it with success on freebsd |
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| 17:55 | <stuarta> | xris: you want misclassified icons as a bug? |
| 17:56 | <stuarta> | i've got one where it picks a country specific logo when the general one is correct |
| 17:57 | <xris> | stuarta: sure |
| 17:58 | [~] | stuarta sets a new personal record for opening tickets |
| 17:59 | <xris> | I need more people to use that script so that I can actually approve things and get beyond the process of having users search for icons, etc. |
| 17:59 | <stuarta> | indeed. |
| 17:59 | <stuarta> | perhaps a way of allowing the icon to be specified? |
| 18:00 | <stuarta> | for this one i could have just pasted in the correct lyngsat url |
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| 18:04 | <xris> | stuarta: the current system can't handle random URLs |
| 18:05 | <stuarta> | all have to be lyngsat based? |
| 18:06 | <xris> | for now (except for the swedish icons) |
| 18:06 | <xris> | just need to add a sourceid to the database |
| 18:08 | <stuarta> | i'm just looking at alternate logos within lyngsat |
| 18:11 | <xris> | lyngsat has NO organization. |
| 18:11 | <xris> | I'd much rather just start our own repo, but that has so many problems of its own |
| 18:11 | <stuarta> | getting better than it used to be |
| 18:12 | <xris> | sort of |
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| 18:32 | <gbee> | what's the logic behind 'Never Record' being unavailable for some scheduled recordings? I can't see a pattern to it |
| 18:32 | <stuarta> | you can't "never record" a generic episode |
| 18:34 | <gbee> | ahh, can see the pattern now, it's not working for "subtitle then description" - should be easy to fix |
| 18:36 | <gbee> | stuarta: that may be the case, but I still can't see a reason for it - how does it know what's generic? :) |
| 18:37 | <stuarta> | suspect things lacking in subtitles... |
| 18:37 | <xris> | gbee: episodes are marked "generic" in the US |
| 18:37 | <xris> | dunno about elsewhere |
| 18:37 | <stuarta> | not here |
| 18:38 | <gbee> | that information isn't available from any source of guide data here - so it shouldn't factor in any decisions made by the scheduler etc |
| 18:40 | <stuarta> | i have 0 episodes marked as generic |
| 18:40 | <gbee> | if something lacks a subtitle that doesn't automatically make it generic - although it could be considered as such if we've chosen 'subtitle' duplicate checking |
| 18:40 | <stuarta> | though only mfdb fills that in doesn't it? |
| 18:44 | <gbee> | yeah, we don't actually populate the generic column at any time other than when the programme data is first added to the database - at least not to my knowledge |
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| 18:50 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 18:51 | <Chutt> | toggling autoexpire in mythweb stole my cursor |
| 18:51 | <Chutt> | turned the mouse cursor into an X with a drag icon (loosely) attached, no clicking on anything else. |
| 18:52 | <xris> | wtf |
| 18:53 | <janneg> | Chutt: lock_fix.diff? |
| 18:53 | <Chutt> | janneg, i was going to apply it this weekend |
| 18:53 | <Chutt> | been running it here, too |
| 18:54 | <janneg> | ok |
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| 19:17 | <doc_> | mmm... |
| 19:18 | <doc_> | <Encoder local="1" connected="1" id="4" state="4" hostname="lorien_hierro" > |
| 19:18 | <doc_> | where can I see which are values for state when getting BE status from xml ? |
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| 19:25 | <namuch> | can an unstable network connection cause "unknown file transfer socket errors"? |
| 19:25 | <doc_> | maybe |
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| 22:33 | <sigger_> | booyah. gave mythmusic a networkcontrol (telnet control) |
| 22:34 | <sigger_> | (no controls yet, but the night is young and the MythEvents are plentiful) |
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| 22:43 | <Chutt> | next thing to do is thread off the playback part, separate it from the playbackbox =) |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | bad old design |
| 22:45 | <sigger_> | yeah, it ought to be at least split out into a different class. |
| 22:46 | <sigger_> | IIRC the player does run as a separate thread tho |
| 22:48 | <Cardoe> | So I recently upgraded the processor in my Myth box |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | and I've noticed something interesting, mythcommflag is segfaulting now. |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | [mpeg2video @ 0x2b92225f2110]ac-tex damaged at 6 2 |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | [mpeg2video @ 0x2b92225f2110]Warning MVs not available |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | 2007-03-22 23:30:16.399 JobQueue: Commercial Flagging Finished, 0 break(s) found. |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | [mpeg @ 0x2b384cc4dd40]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 ! |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | 0: start_time: 0.036 duration: 161.697 |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | 1: start_time: 484.361 duration: 161.691 |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | 2: start_time: 0.017 duration: 161.693 |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | stream: start_time: 0.189 duration: 7178.172 bitrate=1434 kb/s |
| 22:49 | <Cardoe> | That's what happens in the logs around the segfault |
| 22:50 | <Cardoe> | once the recording is done, the backend re-runs the mythcommflag process, and it completes fine. |
| 22:50 | <Cardoe> | It's almost like with the faster CPU, mythcommflag is hitting the current record point and failing? |
| 22:51 | <Captain_Murdoch> | shouldn't be, it should keep 30 seconds behind live, unless it's getting hosed up because the fps is changing in your video. |
| 22:52 | <sigger_> | ah got it. there's multiple entry points. (In not knowing why it didn't come in to the "standard" place I was having an angry German kid moment) |
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| 22:53 | <Cardoe> | Captain_Murdoch: I dunno.. went from single core to dual core |
| 22:53 | <Cardoe> | I noticed mythcommflag would fail sometimes before |
| 22:53 | <Cardoe> | but now it's every recording it will fail the first time |
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| 22:53 | <Captain_Murdoch> | can you turn on jobqueue debugging "-v jobqueue" and get the command line that the flagger was run with and run it manually under gdb while it's still recording and see if it dies still and get a backtrace? |
| 22:54 | <Captain_Murdoch> | and this and that and whatever and run on and on and on. |
| 22:54 | <Captain_Murdoch> | :) |
| 22:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you're in FL right, is this ATSC or ivtv or NuppelVideoRecorder output? |
| 22:55 | <Cardoe> | looks like ivtv 0.10.1 |
| 22:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | so shouldn't be fps changing then. |
| 22:56 | <Cardoe> | but I do have ATSC stuff as well |
| 22:57 | <Cardoe> | I tweaked pam to spit out core files... now to only figure out where it might have gone... |
| 22:58 | <Cardoe> | Captain_Murdoch: how about commflag logging too ? |
| 22:58 | <Cardoe> | ;) |
| 22:59 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you mean do I want it or what? mythcommflag can spit out more log info that you'd ever want to see, it will print frame-by-frame analysis as it chugs through a recording if you set the right environment variable. :) |
| 22:59 | <Cardoe> | -v commflag to the backend? |
| 23:00 | <Cardoe> | important,general,jobqueue |
| 23:00 | <Cardoe> | that's what I've got it set to now |
| 23:00 | <Cardoe> | so I'll just have to wait and see |
| 23:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, the jobqueue passes the same exact -v args to mythcommflag and mythtranscode when it runs them, so you can set -v commflag on the backend and get some flagger debugging when the jobqueue fires mythcommflag off. |
| 23:04 | <Cardoe> | Well I can get it to segfault fairly easily |
| 23:05 | <Captain_Murdoch> | the jobqueue actually uses an undocumented -V command that takes the debug flags as an int and the jobqueue uses that so if you see -V in the jobqueue output, that is what that is. |
| 23:08 | <Cardoe> | quite easy to make it seg |
| 23:19 | <Cardoe> | Chutt: seriously... you need to entertain the idea of letting me autoconf this thing |
| 23:19 | <Cardoe> | you still use qmake |
| 23:19 | <Cardoe> | I did it at work |
| 23:20 | <Cardoe> | we autoconf'd all of our stuff |
| 23:20 | <Cardoe> | and our graphical tools are QT progs so it still uses qmake |
| 23:20 | <knowledgejunkie> | if xris rejoins later, I'll try and catch him tomorrow regarding channel_icons.pl - I need sleep now :) |
| 23:27 | <Cardoe> | Captain_Murdoch: it segfaults everytime it exists. |
| 23:27 | <Cardoe> | er exits |
| 23:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | both even. :) |
| 23:29 | <Cardoe> | [mpeg @ 0x2b778a56c700]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 ! |
| 23:29 | <Cardoe> | What was that msg again? |
| 23:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | can never seem to remember. |
| 23:30 | <Cardoe> | same here |
| 23:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | have to go searching evertime someone brings it up on the lists. |
| 23:33 | <Cardoe> | http://rafb.net/p/OwRHrD18.html |
| 23:34 | <Cardoe> | The address is always the same |
| 23:34 | <Cardoe> | no idea what that top most one is |
| 23:35 | <Cardoe> | since I have glibc unstripped and qt unstripped |
| 23:35 | <Cardoe> | with -ggdb |
| 23:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what is that starttime? |
| 23:36 | <Cardoe> | I made it up |
| 23:36 | <Cardoe> | so it would just error out quickly |
| 23:36 | <Cardoe> | it shouldn't seg... it handled the error gracefully and was exiting |
| 23:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | and how up to date are you with svn? I committed a fix yesterday I think for a bug that would cause a segfault on exit if the scenechangedetector wasn't initialized (like when the file didn't exist as in this case) |
| 23:36 | <Cardoe> | the address of the top most frame pointer is always the same |
| 23:37 | <Cardoe> | I'm on 0-20-fixes.. ;) |
| 23:37 | <Captain_Murdoch> | though I put it there also |
| 23:37 | <Cardoe> | Since trunk hasn't compiled for me for a while. |
| 23:37 | <Cardoe> | basically since I went dual core.. |
| 23:37 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, I put the fix in -fixes also |
| 23:37 | <Cardoe> | linker depend issues |
| 23:37 | <Captain_Murdoch> | just doublechecked |
| 23:38 | <Cardoe> | http://rafb.net/p/APGmdA36.html |
| 23:38 | <hads> | trunk doesn't compile for you on dual core? |
| 23:38 | <Cardoe> | There's a comm flag I watched complete successfully |
| 23:38 | <Cardoe> | hads: nope. since I'm stubborn and use -j3 |
| 23:38 | <hads> | Ah. I was going to say, works fine here. |
| 23:40 | <Captain_Murdoch> | hads, I put in a fix for that PlaybackWLStart issue. |
| 23:40 | <Cardoe> | Captain_Murdoch: r13053 but I see -fixes is at r13110 |
| 23:40 | <Cardoe> | Captain_Murdoch: I'll update right now and try it |
| 23:40 | <hads> | Cool. Cheers |
| 23:40 | <Captain_Murdoch> | svn version numbers are across the board though. |
| 23:41 | <Captain_Murdoch> | anway, you're older than my fix, so if you update that may fix one issue. |
| 23:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'd update -fixes, then rerun with "-v all" and see if it says why it is exitting. the segfault is probably the scenechangedetector fix since it's after the finished message |
| 23:43 | <Cardoe> | Giving it a whirl right now |
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| 23:49 | <Cardoe> | Captain_Murdoch: well I version stuff in Gentoo based on what the last change to -fixes was |
| 23:49 | <Cardoe> | the last commit in there was r13110 |
| 23:50 | <Cardoe> | i.e. |
| 23:50 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, gotcha. I need to get some sleep, hence the need for 13113 to fix the bug I put in in trunk in 13112. :) |
| 23:51 | <Cardoe> | mythtv-0.20_p13110 is 0.20 fixes r13110 |
| 23:51 | <Cardoe> | mythtv-0.21_pre12945 is trunk 12945 |
| 23:55 | <Cardoe> | Captain_Murdoch: same crash... same backtrace |
| 23:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | did you upgrade to qt 3.3.8 recently? |
| 23:56 | <Cardoe> | yes |
| 23:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that's the qt mysql bug |
| 23:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | it's been talked about on the lists. |
| 23:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | qt is destroying something in 2 places when the application exits |
| 23:57 | <Cardoe> | hmm |
| 23:57 | <Cardoe> | ok |
| 23:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | search for qt 3.3.8 on the mailing list. I think it was discussed in the just the past few days. |
| 23:57 | <Cardoe> | well thanks for your help anyway |
| 23:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | supposedly causing issues with mythtranscode as well and some people are seeing it with mythfilldatabase also I think. |
| 23:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | np. |
| 23:58 | <hads> | qt 3.3.8 is weird, it disappeard of Trolltechs ftp servers |
| 23:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | maybe that's why. :) |
| 23:58 | <hads> | Yeah, quite possibly :) |
| 23:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | evidently this is a big issue from what I read |
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