| --- | Log | opened Sat Mar 24 00:00:30 2007 |
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| 00:38 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: can you spare a couple of minutes to talk about the channel_icons.pl from yesterday? |
| 01:00 | <xris> | knowledgejunkie: I'm around now for a bit, so sure |
| 01:02 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: thanks |
| 01:03 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: wondering about how to get icon/xmltvid data submitted for uk_rt channels - i.e. CSV format of a submission, and whether the services server can actually handle this yet |
| 01:04 | <xris> | it'll get submitted, but I won't be approving things until there are more submissions |
| 01:04 | <xris> | easier to just have users run it on their own |
| 01:05 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: when I run the script, it exitrs without allowing me to submit anything |
| 01:05 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: yet when I run a lookup by xmltvid, it reports only 23/260 as available |
| 01:05 | <xris> | knowledgejunkie: wipe out the channel icon data from your database |
| 01:06 | <xris> | the new system doesn't just keep track of xmltvid or whatever. also does dvb id |
| 01:07 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: i know that - shouldn't it populate the other fields using the icon as the key, but still allow part submissions |
| 01:07 | <xris> | huh? |
| 01:07 | <xris> | if you already have channel icons, it won't try to look them up. |
| 01:07 | <xris> | it has no way to know if the icon on disk matches the one on the server. |
| 01:07 | <xris> | it's not like there's an ID system or anything for the filenames. |
| 01:08 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: I thought it would match the URL and XMLTVID |
| 01:08 | <xris> | there is no URL stored anywhere |
| 01:10 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: so how does the script give you an icon for a matched channel? |
| 01:10 | <xris> | download URL is stored in multiple pieces in the db on the server. |
| 01:11 | <xris> | but there's no URL stored on the mythbox |
| 01:11 | <xris> | just a file path |
| 01:11 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: I meant the URL on the server - the icon is surely the link for everything else to key to |
| 01:12 | <xris> | but there's no way to match up the local file to anything on the server. |
| 01:15 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: I see. So, in the found channels submit to the server, what does $icon contain? |
| 01:16 | <xris> | record id in the server's database |
| 01:16 | <xris> | and a few other things, but that id is the most meaningful |
| 01:16 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: Ah |
| 01:17 | <xris> | it's basically the icon id, and then some info about the channel (callsign, xmltvid, dvb ids, etc) |
| 01:17 | <xris> | only way to get the icon id is to get it from the server. |
| 01:17 | <xris> | lyngsat isn't the only source. |
| 01:20 | <xris> | btw, if you want to rescan, you can use --rescan and it'll ignore existing icon mappings. |
| 01:22 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: As I've been maintaining the XMLTV uk_rt grabber channels and icon listings for the past couple of years, what I guess I'm asking is whether there is an easy way to get those icon:xmltvid mappings onto the server |
| 01:22 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: sorry for delay - batteries in keyboard just expired |
| 01:23 | <xris> | I imported as much of the existing uk iconmap stuff as I could find, but it was only callsign stuff. |
| 01:23 | <xris> | if you get me a list of xmltvids and icon urls, I can probably write an importer script, though |
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| 01:25 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: what format would you like it in? You can very easily awk the listing I keep up-to-date at http://xmltv.cvs.sourceforge.net/xmltv/xmltv/grab/uk_rt/channel_ids?view=markup |
| 01:25 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: nearly all are lyngsat |
| 01:26 | <xris> | I can work with that format |
| 01:26 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: awesome |
| 01:27 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: the other obvious UK data is linking those icons to DVB serviceids, and to DVB channel names |
| 01:28 | <xris> | I don't touch channel names |
| 01:28 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: I guess the existing callsign stuff does some of the latter |
| 01:29 | <xris> | yeah. would like to avoid callsigns if possible |
| 01:29 | <xris> | too many overlaps around the world |
| 01:29 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: exactly |
| 01:30 | <xris> | xmltvid is imho the best thing to use, but there are a number of people who don't use anything with xmltvids (e.g. pure EIT data sources) |
| 01:30 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: what are the minimum number of identifiers? xmltvid and then dvb/atsc serviceid? |
| 01:31 | <xris> | what are the field names in that file? |
| 01:31 | <xris> | the middle ones |
| 01:31 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: all XMLTV users should have XMLTVIDs, and OTA DVB/ATSC users should have serviceids or atscsrcids |
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| 01:31 | <xris> | for dvb: transportid, networkid, serviceid |
| 01:32 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: the numeric field? |
| 01:32 | <xris> | yeah |
| 01:32 | <xris> | I assume the other is callsign or channame |
| 01:32 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: that's an abstract reference to the listings file name on the Radio Times site |
| 01:33 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: the third field is either what I decide to call the channel :) or what the Radio Times does |
| 01:33 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: We have no such thing as callsign in the UK |
| 01:33 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: it's just a channel identifier really |
| 01:33 | <xris> | good enough |
| 01:34 | <xris> | just wanted to know what to use for variable names when extracting. heh |
| 01:34 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: but it's what XMLTV will use when setting up channels for a channel name |
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| 01:39 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: Line 328, does the script return 1 if xmltvid lookup fails? |
| 01:40 | <xris> | returns an array with the error message and $error set to true |
| 01:42 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: just wondering if I could use the error code to count for an unsuccessful lookup via another script |
| 01:43 | <xris> | it's not a code. just says "the first field in this array contains an error message" |
| 01:43 | <knowledgejunkie> | ok |
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| 01:45 | <knowledgejunkie> | could it return an exit code in addition to that? |
| 01:46 | <xris> | it's not an exit code. |
| 01:46 | <xris> | easy enough to retrieve the data from a query, though. it's just csv |
| 01:46 | <xris> | what lookup are you trying to do? |
| 01:47 | <knowledgejunkie> | I was after an exit code when running channel_icons.pl --xmltvid {string} - I could count all failed lookup as one I needed data for |
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| 01:48 | <xris> | or.. you could delete all of your channel icon data from the db and rerun now that I've imported all of your xmltvids |
| 01:48 | <knowledgejunkie> | ooh ok |
| 01:49 | <xris> | :) |
| 01:49 | <xris> | I actually imported all of the UK xmltvid entries from the xmltv source, but you've apparently added the icon info since I grabbed the source. |
| 01:50 | <knowledgejunkie> | the URL I posted earlier was current CVS |
| 01:50 | <xris> | yeah |
| 01:50 | <knowledgejunkie> | not latest release :) |
| 01:52 | <knowledgejunkie> | just running script now |
| 01:54 | <knowledgejunkie> | ouch - MythTV.org returned info about 37 of 119 channels. |
| 01:55 | <xris> | weird |
| 01:55 | <xris> | oh, probably no perfect matches |
| 01:56 | <xris> | it imported a ton of them |
| 01:56 | <xris> | more than 200 |
| 01:56 | <knowledgejunkie> | I should have 6 iconless channels, and 8 radio channels that are not supported via XMLTV |
| 01:56 | <knowledgejunkie> | the rest should all be |
| 01:57 | <xris> | weird |
| 01:58 | <xris> | I think there's a bug in the lookup code. hang on. |
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| 01:59 | <knowledgejunkie> | e.g. BBC Four - has a XMLTVID and the script returns a single choice - so it should be a direct hit. It seems to be using fuzzy name matching, not xmltvid |
| 02:01 | <xris> | ok, rerun the scanner script |
| 02:01 | <knowledgejunkie> | ok |
| 02:01 | <xris> | had a bug in the lookup code on the server |
| 02:02 | <knowledgejunkie> | better - MythTV.org returned info about 73 of 119 channels. |
| 02:02 | <xris> | still not that many |
| 02:04 | <knowledgejunkie> | SELECT count(xmltvid) FROM `channel` where xmltvid != ''; returns 105 records |
| 02:05 | <knowledgejunkie> | 105 xmltvid + 6 none + 8 unsupported = 119 channels |
| 02:05 | <xris> | yeah |
| 02:05 | <xris> | it should have pulled down all of them |
| 02:06 | <xris> | unless there were that many non-lyngsat channels |
| 02:06 | <knowledgejunkie> | lemme check |
| 02:06 | <xris> | http://pastebin.ca/407665 |
| 02:06 | <xris> | everything there should be on the server now |
| 02:06 | <xris> | http://services.mythtv.org/channel-icon/lookup?xmltvid=play.itv.co.uk |
| 02:07 | <xris> | ah, crap |
| 02:07 | <xris> | hang on |
| 02:08 | <xris> | ok, rerun your scan |
| 02:08 | <knowledgejunkie> | ok |
| 02:10 | <knowledgejunkie> | crap, MFDB is running atm so has re-populated my icons after I just cleared them |
| 02:10 | <xris> | haha. oops |
| 02:11 | <knowledgejunkie> | there looks to be a problem with MFDB too regarding icons - it is the culprit for the path breakage I blamed your script for yesterday :) |
| 02:11 | <xris> | yeah, I saw you mention that earlier. heh |
| 02:12 | <knowledgejunkie> | MFDB has nearly finsihed |
| 02:13 | <knowledgejunkie> | is stuarta the MFDB dev? |
| 02:14 | <knowledgejunkie> | there seems to be an issue with IconData::UpdateSourceIcons |
| 02:14 | <xris> | no clue |
| 02:15 | <knowledgejunkie> | righty, MFDB has finished |
| 02:17 | <xris> | how many icons detected this time? |
| 02:17 | <knowledgejunkie> | hey - MythTV.org returned info about 97 of 119 channels. looks promising as there are 8 with xmltvids but no icon |
| 02:19 | <xris> | cool |
| 02:19 | <xris> | I was accidentally excluding xmltvids with dashes in them |
| 02:19 | <xris> | should all be fixed now |
| 02:19 | <knowledgejunkie> | animal planet has a clash |
| 02:20 | <xris> | let it go through anyway |
| 02:20 | <xris> | the "force" part of that should work now. |
| 02:20 | <xris> | and it should submit the parts that don't conflict |
| 02:21 | <knowledgejunkie> | how does the server order fuzzy matches? |
| 02:22 | <xris> | probably alphabetically |
| 02:22 | <knowledgejunkie> | i have exact matches on channel.name and yet they are result #39. Shouldn't they be first? |
| 02:23 | <knowledgejunkie> | like, if match==exact, list first, then fuzzies |
| 02:23 | <xris> | dunno. this script is just a proof of concept, though |
| 02:23 | <xris> | the real code should go into the frontend, mythtv-setup and/or mythweb. |
| 02:23 | <xris> | so you can actually SEE the icons it's picking |
| 02:24 | <knowledgejunkie> | omg - E! Entertainment - only 400 matches! |
| 02:24 | <xris> | yeah. fix that one quick. heh |
| 02:25 | <knowledgejunkie> | submitted :) |
| 02:26 | <knowledgejunkie> | Imported 103 channel icons into your MythTV database. |
| 02:26 | <knowledgejunkie> | lemee see what the missing 2 are |
| 02:27 | <xris> | ok, most/etc approved |
| 02:28 | <knowledgejunkie> | 2 missing both have xmltvids and icons in XMLTV channel_ids |
| 02:28 | <knowledgejunkie> | which weren't approved? |
| 02:28 | <knowledgejunkie> | missing #1: cbbc.bbc.co.uk|482|CBBC|http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/logo/tv/cc/cbbc.jpg |
| 02:28 | <knowledgejunkie> | missing #2: qvcuk.com|228|QVC|http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/logo/tv/qq/qvc.jpg |
| 02:29 | <xris> | I don't see any pending for those |
| 02:29 | <knowledgejunkie> | didn't ask me about them |
| 02:29 | <xris> | resyncing with the lyngsat website |
| 02:31 | <xris> | qvc is already in the db |
| 02:32 | <xris> | as is the other |
| 02:32 | <xris> | they should have auto-assigned |
| 02:36 | <xris> | knowledgejunkie: what do you mean by "missing"? |
| 02:40 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: they have an xmltvid in the DB, but the script didn't grab their icons |
| 02:40 | <xris> | weird |
| 02:40 | <xris> | it should have |
| 02:40 | <xris> | the server shows icons for them |
| 02:41 | <knowledgejunkie> | i'll run the script again, now you've accepted some of my submissions from the last run |
| 02:41 | <knowledgejunkie> | heh - MythTV.org returned info about 109 of 119 channels. |
| 02:43 | <xris> | nice |
| 02:44 | <knowledgejunkie> | it missed "1Xtra" which I manually searched for, then reported "Imported 103 channel icons into your MythTV database." |
| 02:45 | <xris> | no xmltvid for that one, but the dvb codes are in the system now |
| 02:45 | <knowledgejunkie> | still missed CBBC and QVC |
| 02:46 | <xris> | wtf. and those are in the system cleanly |
| 02:46 | <xris> | no prompt or errors or anything? |
| 02:46 | <knowledgejunkie> | nope |
| 02:46 | <xris> | http://services.mythtv.org/channel-icon/lookup?xmltvid=cbbc.bbc.co.uk |
| 02:48 | <knowledgejunkie> | weird |
| 02:49 | <xris> | if it finds a solid xmltvid match, it just imports the icon straight in |
| 02:49 | <knowledgejunkie> | aw crap, they're hidden |
| 02:50 | <knowledgejunkie> | that'll be it |
| 02:50 | <xris> | heh |
| 02:50 | <xris> | sounds like the UK users are all set up, then. heh |
| 02:51 | <knowledgejunkie> | i think it should be an option - channel_icons.pl --importhidden, or something |
| 02:52 | <knowledgejunkie> | MythTV/XMLTV uk_rt users of the UK thank you greatly |
| 02:52 | <xris> | :) |
| 02:52 | <knowledgejunkie> | so do I - thanks for the effort and 'getting it sorted' :) |
| 02:52 | <xris> | I just want to provide a good user experience. :) |
| 02:53 | <knowledgejunkie> | well, let's keep things in perspective here :) |
| 02:53 | <knowledgejunkie> | i mean, I actually have to run the script manually... |
| 02:55 | <xris> | like I said, it's just a proof of concept |
| 02:55 | <knowledgejunkie> | xris: how's the callsign/channum matching stuff going for mythweb? |
| 02:56 | <xris> | it can't go into mythweb until I have a way to tell the backend to download something |
| 02:56 | <knowledgejunkie> | it's a pretty good proof of concept then - it works brilliantly |
| 02:56 | <xris> | I'm trying to get mythweb separated from the mythtv filesystem as much as possible... no more requirements of mounting your recordings dir on your webserver, etc. |
| 02:57 | <knowledgejunkie> | everything through mythbackend directly? |
| 02:59 | <xris> | or some other backend-like util |
| 02:59 | <xris> | can already access music/video/recording files that way, but there's no way to tell the backend to go out and grab a file. |
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| 10:31 | <festr___> | hello |
| 10:31 | <festr___> | anyone using G450 matrox with mythtv? |
| 11:01 | <sigger_> | ok, mythmusic's telnet link has two commands. the rest are on the way. |
| 11:03 | <sigger_> | Captain_Murdoch, it appears we're able to call GUI functions from within the GUI thread's customEvent. I suspect you're recollection you may have done the "impossible keypress" because tv playback is not a separate thread and it would have locked up the telnet control. |
| 11:04 | <sigger_> | er, I suspect your recollection was correct, that is. |
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| 11:22 | <Captain_Murdoch> | but does it lock the gui thread if you run something that takes a while from within customEvent? |
| 11:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ie, the sleep(10) test I mentioned. |
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| 11:43 | <toad_> | has anyone tried running myth with -fbounds-check recently? |
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| 13:29 | <perlmonkey> | hi |
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| 14:17 | <sigger_> | Captain_Murdoch, putting sleep(10) in the gui thread's customEvent does prevent the network command code from getting control back.. |
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| 14:45 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'm not wondering about the network control code, I'm wondering about the whole gui thread. |
| 14:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | if customEvent is fired from the GUI thread, then it would seem that any action that blocks inside customEvent would hold up the GUI thread from doing other things (such as sending other events or updating the screen, etc.. that's what I think thinking happened when I was testing that code originally. |
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| 14:51 | <sigger_> | oh I gotcha will test |
| 14:54 | <sigger_> | yes, a sleep in the gui thread means gui not getting updated for the duration of the sleep. certainly makes sense; that thread is prevented from getting back to the event loop. |
| 14:59 | <sigger_> | but as I think about it, the KeypressEvent stuff is just as much a part of the event loop as customEvent, so they would have the same effect it seems. |
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| 16:24 | <tominglis> | hi guys, does anyone know why my remote control works basically (for navigation et al) with a clean feisty and 0.20 install and no lirc / lirc config files? |
| 16:24 | <tominglis> | it is nebula electronics digitv rev b |
| 16:38 | <xris> | tominglis: /topic |
| 16:39 | <tominglis> | yeah, i know but nobody in there seems to know, and i thought you might? :) |
| 16:40 | <tominglis> | sorry to disrupt your conversation :) |
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| 19:11 | <doc_> | hi there, would be possible to have an open connection with socket and send every event from backend to it ? |
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| 21:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | sigger: yeah, that makes sense. I can't remember what then. there was a reason I did it this way, I remember having issue with something I think, but can't remember what. I threw 90-95% of the network control code together in a 10-hour overnight coding session one weekend, so it's no wonder I don't remember what the issue was. :) |
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