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| 03:12 | <janneg> | xris: the auto expirer expects the the space is freed after he deletes something |
| 03:17 | <xris> | ok, cool |
| 03:17 | <xris> | recompiling now |
| 03:19 | <janneg> | live-tv and max episode count record rules are expired even if there is enough space |
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| 03:22 | <xris> | I think the max-episode-count stuff was what I was think of |
| 03:23 | <janneg> | but I think it's not so important to move them first to the deleted recgroup. we communicated that everything that is marked to be autoexpired should be considered as already deleted |
| 03:24 | <xris> | good enough |
| 03:24 | <xris> | as long as the deleted group goes first |
| 03:24 | <xris> | which is what my system didn't do last night |
| 03:24 | <xris> | none of my autoexpire or deleted recgroup stuff got deleted |
| 03:25 | <janneg> | xris: it was a socket error which prevented the autoexpirer to delete stuff |
| 03:26 | <xris> | ah |
| 03:26 | <xris> | I just recompiled... hopefully it'll work now |
| 03:28 | <janneg> | I'm surprised that the commit fixed it but my dev backend runs for more than 7 hours constantly recording 9 shows |
| 03:28 | <xris> | heh. I need a dev backend. |
| 03:29 | <xris> | wonder how well I could run it within xen. |
| 03:29 | <xris> | oh well. I need to sleep now. extremely tired after thanksgiving stuff. :) |
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| 07:04 | <janneg> | oh well, recording 12 shows simultaneously isn't that bad, just 20% on a athlon64 @ 1ghz |
| 07:05 | <dr_lulz> | wow |
| 07:05 | <stuarta> | dvb of course |
| 07:05 | <dr_lulz> | donate your system to me :P |
| 07:05 | <janneg> | but you shouldn't use a power record with only channel.callsign IN ("", ...) |
| 07:05 | [~] | stuarta chuckles |
| 07:06 | <janneg> | it is almost constantly rescheduling, a single rschedule un takes allmost 4 minutes |
| 07:06 | <janneg> | s/ un / run / |
| 07:07 | <janneg> | and I have already deactivated the reschedules from the eit scanner |
| 07:11 | <janneg> | the backend uses 1.1 gig memory |
| 07:12 | <justinh> | oof |
| 07:12 | <janneg> | it might be leaking, it's 1.2 now |
| 07:12 | <justinh> | my untrained brain is starting to take all this as meaning that multirec's a nice idea but... |
| 07:13 | <stuarta> | there's definitely a leak still present |
| 07:13 | <stuarta> | my backend grows in size everytime it records |
| 07:16 | <janneg> | justinh: I doubt current trunk with 12 cards and the same recording rule would be any better |
| 07:16 | <justinh> | heh |
| 07:17 | <stuarta> | justinh: it's a generic issue, not specific to multirec |
| 07:17 | <justinh> | I think it's safe to say that myth wasn't exactly designed with that kind of thing in mind from the outset ;) I mean.. so many tuners in one place.. |
| 07:20 | <janneg> | justinh: it was definetely not designed for above recording rule |
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| 07:24 | <janneg> | "Scheduled 3339 items in 218.9 = 0.00 match + 218.85 place" |
| 07:25 | <stuarta> | heh, that's ever so slightly ridiculous! but at least we know it works |
| 07:33 | <janneg> | it's even more ridiculous since the scheduler can't start and stop recordings on time |
| 07:48 | <janneg> | the scheduler needs 35-50 seconds to place 3333 inactive recordings |
| 07:48 | <janneg> | that the hell is it doing? |
| 07:48 | <janneg> | s/that/what/ |
| 07:49 | <janneg> | it doesn't have to care for recorders or conflicts |
| 07:51 | <janneg> | I'm going to profile that once the recordings are finisched |
| 07:55 | <stuarta> | where's the DB time? that included in the match figure? |
| 07:58 | <janneg> | yes, db time is included in match and is usually under a second |
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| 08:08 | <janneg> | no, it isn't the scheduler uses tempory tables and I see much db load while scheduling |
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| 08:58 | <gbee> | anything that using mysql4/5 queries would solve? |
| 08:59 | <gbee> | I've not looked at the scheduler in over a year and I can't remember much about it |
| 09:01 | <janneg> | I don't know I try to avoid the scheduler |
| 09:02 | <stuarta> | all you need to know is summarized by BFSQ |
| 09:04 | <janneg> | if I'm not mistaken is the BFSQ in the match, i.e. not the problem |
| 09:04 | [~] | stuarta shrugs |
| 09:04 | <stuarta> | never delved into itt |
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| 11:26 | <janneg> | I was mistaken. the BFSQ takes 10.7s in mysql and 8.7s for parsing the results |
| 11:30 | <janneg> | the query has 100000 entries and we're creating from each a programinfo |
| 11:30 | <gbee> | hmm |
| 11:36 | <janneg> | even after looking at the query I'm still wondering why it the result is so huge |
| 11:38 | <janneg> | it schedules only 3300 recordings which is only 1/30 |
| 11:59 | <gbee> | going to be a busy weekend, I want to do some timings on the transition between PVR-150 and DVB inputs, I'll also try and get some logs from multirec and see if switching some of the scheduler queries to use subqueries makes much difference |
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| 12:25 | <gbee> | justinh: blootube-wide has some guide icons in the programguide folder, but the ui.xml doesn't use them so it falls back to the defaults |
| 12:41 | <janneg> | I see now why the query has so much more entries, it returns each entry for each capturecard with the matching sourceid. that explains a factor of 15 |
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| 12:42 | <janneg> | gbee: I've converted one of the joins to a subquery, but I can't say if it got faster |
| 12:44 | <janneg> | the query times vary too much (more than 30%), but the minimum times I've seen are with the subquery |
| 12:45 | <gbee> | janneg: best way to tell is to run the queries manually through the mysql command line a few times and compare the results there, it's fiddly though |
| 12:45 | <gbee> | EXPLAIN is also useful |
| 12:46 | <gbee> | I'll look at it this weekend, just need to turn on the slow query logging and then try different variations on the same queries in the mysql console (could take a while) |
| 12:51 | <janneg> | yeah, but I should have first deactivated the output of the result |
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| 13:26 | <janneg> | the join seems to be faster |
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| 13:35 | <jimmygoon> | Would this work as a front end assuming I got a decent CPU , http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186115&CMP=EMC-IGNEBLFR111207&ATT=N82E16813186115&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEBLFR111207-_-Motherboards-_-E1L-_-13186115 |
| 13:35 | <gbee> | jimmygoon: try #mythtv-users |
| 13:36 | <jimmygoon> | gbee, shit I did this yesterday too, sorry |
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| 13:44 | <gbee> | justinh: mind giving me your opinion on a couple of screenshots? |
| 13:46 | <justinh> | not at all. fire away |
| 13:47 | <gbee> | focusing only on the positioning of top two 'windows' for the title and clock, which looks better a) http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy/metallurgy61.png OR b) http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/test.png |
| 13:48 | <justinh> | first one |
| 13:48 | <gbee> | ok, thanks |
| 13:48 | <cmoates> | Not that you asked me, but I like the second |
| 13:48 | <cmoates> | Either is fine though |
| 13:49 | <justinh> | actually if anything I think I'd prefer the 'windows' aligned with the info areas |
| 13:50 | <justinh> | btw love the icons :) |
| 13:51 | <gbee> | thanks, just doing some final tweaking before I release a preview version |
| 13:52 | <justinh> | I keep being tempted to revisit my earlier themes but I know what that'll lead to |
| 13:52 | <gbee> | let me just try that, didn't consider it, I was looking at the position of the mythtv logo and aligning them with that |
| 13:52 | <justinh> | maybe try the logo aligned to the left window margin too |
| 14:05 | <gbee> | http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/test2.png |
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| 14:09 | <GreyFoxx> | nice screenshot |
| 14:13 | <justinh> | yeah I prefer the 'windows' aligned like that better |
| 14:13 | <cmoates> | me too |
| 14:13 | <justinh> | they were all good though, and I'd not have raised it as an issue |
| 14:14 | <justinh> | you're getting involved in details.. bad sign ;) |
| 14:14 | <justinh> | the sign of a pro theme designer :P |
| 14:14 | <justinh> | time for pizza! |
| 14:16 | <stuarta> | mmm pizza |
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| 15:22 | <rgravener> | this section: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#video_capture_device, the wiki page http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_devices needs to be changed to http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_Devices |
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| 15:43 | <Zombie> | Anyone run MythTV on Mandriva 2008? |
| 15:43 | <Zombie> | er, of yeah. |
| 15:43 | [~] | justinh points at the channel topic |
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| 16:41 | <Zombie> | Hey folks? |
| 16:41 | <Zombie> | The automute bug in the saa7134 is still present, |
| 16:41 | <Zombie> | I had to unmute it manually. |
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| 17:54 | <justinh> | Zombie: might already be fixed in trunk |
| 17:54 | <justinh> | check svn.mythtv.org - searchy searchy |
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| 18:25 | <justinh> | heh found a sure-fire way to crash the frontend. play a recording where the signal level was er... poop on a stick |
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| 19:23 | <gbee> | http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy.html#Download |
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| 19:24 | <gbee> | wanted to get more watermarks done, but ran out of time |
| 19:27 | <justinh> | hehehe nevah.. but nevah evah feel pressure to squeeze one out ;) |
| 19:27 | <justinh> | delays lead to er.. less incrementals ;) |
| 19:28 | <justinh> | and tell people NO I won't adapt it for 0.20.2 unless they give me a mac mini |
| 19:30 | <justinh> | er.. is it just me or had I never realised the edit popup could be customised? |
| 19:31 | <justinh> | and um... just noticed something else too. the light/dark bits of the edit bar means it'd work in mono. you really have thought of so much |
| 19:31 | <gbee> | justinh: I'm keeping this relatively quiet, since it isn't a proper release - half the watermarks are missing etc, but hopefully I'll get useful feedback and the pressure of a deadline is a good way of ensuring I finish it |
| 19:31 | <gbee> | justinh: heh |
| 19:32 | <justinh> | I turned my watermarks off. I already hate them |
| 19:32 | <gbee> | I should probably try the OSD in mono, I meant to, but forgot |
| 19:32 | <justinh> | so it makes the space look vacant.. I can live with that. it's a menu.. don't need clutter |
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| 19:35 | <gbee> | I've been so busy with this that I've yet to try glass-wide, I've added it to a pretty long list of things I want to do this weekend |
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| 19:35 | <justinh> | woo colour packs too |
| 19:35 | <justinh> | I'm thinking of doing a similar thing when I get round to doing my animation |
| 19:37 | <justinh> | if I ever do. have a new distraction now. restoring old VHS from my college days. made a music video I'm still proud of, 18 years ago. I have 2 copies, each with varying amounts of dropouts. cut & paste job.. tidy up the areas the college wipe generator didn't mask off.. |
| 19:43 | [~] | janneg debates if he should do another merge to multirec |
| 19:47 | <gbee> | janneg: something worth having? |
| 19:49 | <janneg> | the themable osd base res change |
| 19:49 | <justinh> | btw gbee ever seen a freeview signal so bad the picture was just a sequence of dayglo coloured 8x8 pixel blocks? dodgy aerial cable |
| 19:50 | <gbee> | janneg: ahh |
| 19:50 | <janneg> | but I've already settled to import just the diff into my tree |
| 19:50 | <gbee> | justinh: not that bad, no :P |
| 19:51 | <justinh> | neither had I |
| 19:51 | <justinh> | Tesco's fault for not having any 4 output amps in |
| 19:56 | <janneg> | gbee: I like it and I haven't seen the OSD yet |
| 19:56 | <janneg> | gbee: the watch recordings screen misses the clock |
| 19:57 | <gbee> | janneg: cool, yeah the clock will only be theme-wide when those screens are converted over to mythui - they don't have a clock widget yet |
| 19:58 | <gbee> | hopefully won't take long before the mythui conversion is complete |
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| 19:59 | <janneg> | ah, ok. if it takes longer than anticipated a different background image might make sense |
| 19:59 | <janneg> | the system status has pure metall for example |
| 20:00 | <gbee> | err, that's a bug |
| 20:00 | <gbee> | let me fix it |
| 20:00 | <janneg> | finally found one |
| 20:02 | <gbee> | ok, uploaded a fixed version - you can just edit status-ui.xml and fix the background.png path to backgrounds/background.png |
| 20:03 | <gbee> | the menu titles will change according to the current menu, but that ability isn't in the code just yet (again, I'll do it sometime over the weekend) |
| 20:04 | <gbee> | just finished uploading the colour packs, choice of four at the moment |
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| 20:15 | <justinh> | gbee: which menu titles do you mean? |
| 20:16 | <gbee> | the stuff which can currently be represented by an image in theme.xml - I want to use text so it can be translated |
| 20:17 | <gbee> | but that means adding support for it |
| 20:17 | <justinh> | ahhh texty text |
| 20:17 | <justinh> | it'll use way less ram too |
| 20:18 | <justinh> | blimey themers are going to have way more to look forward to |
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| 20:26 | <jams> | oh well, guess i have to update before checking out the theme |
| 20:26 | <jams> | the main menu is completely blank |
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| 20:31 | <rooaus> | gbee: The frame around the preview pixmaps are *nice* :D |
| 20:32 | <justinh> | it's all very nice |
| 20:32 | <gbee> | jams: yeah, bug in myththemedmenu which I've now fixed |
| 20:33 | <justinh> | but I didn't spend a few weeks slaving my balls off to use someone else's theme :P |
| 20:33 | <gbee> | rooaus: thanks for the nice comments, makes the work worthwhile :) |
| 20:34 | <jams> | gbee- more nice comments on the way once i update =) |
| 20:37 | <gbee> | I'll probably be asleep by then, but thanks anyway :) |
| 20:37 | <jams> | it will be a few days, i want to finish bringing midnight up to speed |
| 20:38 | <gbee> | heh, well I might still be asleep, could use a break ;) |
| 20:38 | <jams> | i'm going back through and resizing things to fit the overscan on my tv |
| 20:40 | <gbee> | think overscan could be a problem for metallurgy, I went with a 5% overscan allowance, which is less than most themes |
| 20:40 | <jams> | i will let you know when i throw it on my main screen |
| 20:41 | <gbee> | but on the other hand, it's designed for widescreen (even HDTV) sets which should be good enough not to overscan by more than 3/4% |
| 20:41 | <jams> | stupid samsung, lot's of people complained about the large amount of overscan this set has |
| 20:41 | <gbee> | we'll see :) it works fine on my older widescreen flatscreen TV |
| 20:42 | <gbee> | night all |
| 20:42 | <jams> | night |
| 20:42 | <justinh> | nighty night |
| 20:43 | <rooaus> | night |
| 20:43 | <gbee> | damn, just noticed that I overwrote one of the watermarks with the wrong version |
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| 20:47 | <gbee> | as I closed down windows I spotted it, I could probably have ignored it but it's now fixed and uploaded |
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