| --- | Log | opened Fri Dec 28 00:00:20 2007 |
| --- | Day | changed Fri Dec 28 2007 |
| 00:00 | <clever[rev]> | looks like it basicaly does what i was just inserting into it |
| 00:00 | <clever[rev]> | test GetOSD() then test the result of running a function on its return value |
| 00:01 | <clever[rev]> | i'll svn update |
| 00:01 | <clever[rev]> | 15216 here |
| 00:06 | <clever[rev]> | the makefile is also semi broken |
| 00:06 | <clever[rev]> | i just finished a full pass of make |
| 00:06 | <clever[rev]> | now make install is compiling things as root! |
| 00:08 | <clever[rev]> | and the output from this may be readonly to the main compiling username which may just cause it to happen again in the future |
| 00:09 | <clever[rev]> | 15244 on my master now:) |
| 00:13 | <clever[rev]> | damnit, more root compiling... |
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| 00:22 | <clever[rev]> | o wait damnit |
| 00:22 | <clever[rev]> | i forgot to even do a make! |
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| 01:04 | <__Krush> | Hi All, have a question as to how would wiring to a MythTV box with a DVB-T supplied box? |
| 01:07 | <dekarl> | Hi, I think this question is more appropriate for the users channel but anyway. You can get a hardware encoder card (think Hauppauge PVR) and hook up your DVB-T stb to it then figure out some clever way to turn the stb on/off change channels. Or do like I did and get a cheap DVB-T card :) |
| 01:08 | <clever[rev]> | ive currently got a digital box being controled with an ir blaster and feeding a pvr-150 over composite |
| 01:08 | <clever[rev]> | cant get the hd quality out of it but its better then nothing |
| 01:16 | <clever[rev]> | You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ayGroup update' at line 1 |
| 01:16 | <clever[rev]> | either a typo or a side effect of the make install while the backend is running |
| 01:19 | <__Krush> | Thanks a million :) Have a great 2008! |
| 01:22 | <__Krush> | Thanks dekarl! I already have a DVB-T stick but local TV provider encodes in Conax....Can I have something like a softcam as I have on SAT receiver and get it to read my regular subscription card? |
| 01:23 | <dekarl> | Ohh, encrypted stuff, then you'd need a DVB-T Card/Stick with a CI Slot etc.. maybe clever[rev]'s solution is easier then. (over here DVB-T is unencrypted so I have no idea what is availible) |
| 01:24 | <clever[rev]> | ive seen a dvb card on some site which included a slot for the decryption card |
| 01:24 | <clever[rev]> | im guessing you stick the card for the sat box into it and let er rip |
| 01:25 | <clever[rev]> | but my only working digital channels are digital cable |
| 01:25 | <clever[rev]> | and the box appears to have 2 way comunication with the company |
| 01:25 | <clever[rev]> | so they can easily query/track every box and brick any that disobey commands |
| 01:29 | <__Krush> | Yes saw some similar device from Technotrend which can read a CI card but considering that STP is "given" with service might as well keep and setup some LIRC xmitter |
| 01:30 | <__Krush> | But then quality suffers! |
| 01:30 | <clever[rev]> | my newest laptop has a smartcard reader in the side |
| 01:30 | <clever[rev]> | which can psysicaly accept the card from a satbox a friend gave to us |
| 01:31 | <__Krush> | Yes... |
| 01:31 | <clever[rev]> | ive yet to even find the linux drivers for the reader though so i have no idea where to go next |
| 01:31 | <clever[rev]> | and i lack a dvb-s card to put it to any use |
| 01:31 | <__Krush> | I actually have a smart card reader from the old sat days......serial reader....writer |
| 01:31 | <clever[rev]> | and he probly hasnt payed the bill in months so its not valid anymore |
| 01:31 | <clever[rev]> | this appears to handle themagnetic stripe and the embeded chip |
| 01:31 | <clever[rev]> | from looking in the slot with a flashlight |
| 01:32 | <clever[rev]> | and it seems usb based |
| 01:32 | <clever[rev]> | Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0b97:7772 O2 Micro, Inc. |
| 01:32 | <clever[rev]> | Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0b97:7761 O2 Micro, Inc. |
| 01:32 | <clever[rev]> | ive seen references to that online when looking up the reader for the laptop |
| 01:33 | <__Krush> | What would be the best (lossless hopefully) option from an STB with scart output to MythTV? |
| 01:35 | <clever[rev]> | my bigest problem with the ir blaster is that it drops digits every now and then |
| 01:35 | <clever[rev]> | i sometimes wind up with channel 5(tv guide) instead of 45 |
| 01:35 | <clever[rev]> | an hour of a slowly scrolling tv guide is useless for me when i got a schedules direct act! |
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| 01:46 | <okolsi> | I noticed that running "mythbackend --resched" ends with segfault in about 50% of time |
| 01:47 | <okolsi> | seems to be UPnP related or at least occurs right after the "Deleting UPnP client..." log print |
| 01:48 | <clever[rev]> | alot of my myth progs segfault randomly |
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| 01:48 | <clever[rev]> | mostly in upnp code |
| 01:48 | <clever[rev]> | mythfrontend and backend have done it on ocasion |
| 01:48 | <clever[rev]> | mythfilldatabase has left some coredumps i didnt bother peeking at |
| 01:49 | <clever[rev]> | and mythshutdown segfaults in upnp enough to make 5gig of core dumps in less then a day! |
| 01:50 | <clever[rev]> | okolsi: seems we may have similar problems |
| 01:53 | <okolsi> | clever[rev]: sounds the same.. I'll see if I can create backtrace at some point |
| 01:54 | <clever[rev]> | echo "core.%e.%p" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern |
| 01:54 | <clever[rev]> | that helps to make the core filenames more useable |
| 01:54 | <clever[rev]> | ulimit -c unlimited will let programs coredump when started from that shell window |
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| 01:58 | <okolsi> | well, now I have 49M core dump.. this can be opened with gdb? |
| 01:58 | <clever[rev]> | gdb programname corefilename |
| 01:58 | <okolsi> | hmm.. I have release build so does this dump have anything useful? |
| 01:59 | <clever[rev]> | it may lack the needed debug info to make anything usefull |
| 01:59 | <clever[rev]> | but will probly still have the function names |
| 01:59 | <okolsi> | okay.. |
| 01:59 | <clever[rev]> | i think the symbol names are still there but the lines numbers will be missing |
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| 02:01 | <okolsi> | it cannot find any debugging symbols.. this does not look any good.. I'll do the debug build |
| 02:02 | <clever[rev]> | the function names may still be in the backtrace |
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| 02:28 | <okolsi> | now I got proper backtrace, it is UPnp related |
| 02:33 | <clever[rev]> | okolsi: upnp task something something? |
| 02:37 | <okolsi> | looks like UPnpNotifyTask::SendNotifyMsg() |
| 02:37 | <okolsi> | I think it is in upnptasknotify.cpop |
| 02:38 | <okolsi> | .cpp |
| 02:38 | <clever[rev]> | sounds like my bug |
| 02:38 | <clever[rev]> | look for this=0x0 |
| 02:40 | <clever[rev]> | okolsi: within the backtrace |
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| 02:41 | <okolsi> | clever: http://pastebin.ca/834508 |
| 02:41 | <clever[rev]> | . |
| 02:41 | <clever[rev]> | loading... |
| 02:42 | <okolsi> | wonder if there's already some ticket that this could be added or should I create a new one.. |
| 02:44 | <clever[rev]> | doesnt feel like the same one im having |
| 02:44 | <clever[rev]> | mine is more of a class x=0x0;x->function(); type segfault |
| 02:45 | <clever[rev]> | it seems to be copying the pointer then deleting it elsewhere |
| 02:45 | <clever[rev]> | then trying to use the pointer |
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| 02:45 | <clever[rev]> | its 3am |
| 02:45 | [~] | clever[rev] goes off to sleep |
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| 04:24 | <stuarta> | clever[rev]: from the bits of the backtrace you posted it looks like an OSD is trying to be used after it's deleted |
| 04:26 | <dekarl> | good morning stuarta, I posted http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4257 Apply RTL Group EIT fixup from #2745 to more DVB-T transports with transport/network from channels.conf and my own data, what can I do to get it applied? |
| 04:27 | <stuarta> | that's one of mine |
| 04:28 | <stuarta> | wait till jan |
| 04:28 | <dekarl> | I made it so :) Will do |
| 04:28 | <stuarta> | although i'll probably poke janneg when i see him, since he's in Germany |
| 04:29 | <stuarta> | however it's not a biggie, so i might just sneak it in sometime. |
| 04:29 | <dekarl> | I thought as it's just applying the RTL subtitle parsing to more transports it could be easily applied |
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| 04:30 | <stuarta> | yeah, it can... |
| 04:30 | <dekarl> | As long as it makes it into 0.21 any timespan is fine for me :) |
| 04:30 | <stuarta> | hence jan ;-) |
| 04:31 | <janneg> | stuarta: I'll handle it in the next days |
| 04:31 | <stuarta> | janneg: cheers |
| 04:31 | <dekarl> | hehe, with jan == next week thats perfect |
| 04:31 | <dekarl> | thanks janneg |
| 04:33 | <janneg> | the only reason I haven't applied it already is that the RTL fixups don't work so good |
| 04:33 | <stuarta> | small problem... :) |
| 04:34 | <dekarl> | Is it worth to update to svn (I'm using premade packages at the moment) and take a peek at the code? |
| 04:34 | <stuarta> | if you want good fixups in 0.21 </hint hint> |
| 04:35 | <janneg> | and improving the regexs is something I'm trying to avoid. especially since it is a PITA to test them |
| 04:35 | <stuarta> | especially if you aren't in the area |
| 04:37 | <dekarl> | hmm, can I grab some EIT data and use a small 10 liner to do regression testing on the regexps? |
| 04:37 | <stuarta> | database backups |
| 04:38 | <stuarta> | it's not really feasible to capture the data like that |
| 04:39 | <dekarl> | hm, that's something I'd like to avoid. I was thinking along the line of a 1MB EIT dump to run over and over then compare the results before/after changes |
| 04:39 | <stuarta> | well firstly you'd have to write the code to capture it |
| 04:40 | <dekarl> | hm, so I need to dive deep into the code to do repeatable tests :( |
| 04:41 | <janneg> | that are only a couple of lines, but running the captured data again through myth is more work |
| 04:41 | <stuarta> | part of the problem is the data is constantly changing |
| 04:42 | <stuarta> | the monkeys typing in the data can't type the same thing from day to day |
| 04:44 | <janneg> | dekarl: if you want to look at the raw parsed data the output of dvbsnoop 0x12 is what you want |
| 04:44 | <dekarl> | So there is no eitdump > greatdump; cat eitdump | eitfixup10liner > before; change code; eitdump | fixup > after; diff before after |
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| 04:44 | <dekarl> | ok, I'll see what dvbsnoop has for me |
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| 04:47 | <janneg> | stuarta: I see almost no typos in the EIT of german channels |
| 04:48 | <stuarta> | the main use of it in the UK is to fish the subtitles out of the description |
| 04:48 | <stuarta> | since EIT has no subtitle field |
| 04:49 | <janneg> | but most of them do not have extensive descriptions and miss episode titles entirely |
| 04:49 | <stuarta> | then a few other bits to fish out airdates, actors |
| 04:49 | <stuarta> | so not terribly useful anyway? |
| 04:51 | <janneg> | the descriptions are good enough for duplicte checking |
| 04:52 | <dekarl> | dvbsnoop 0x12 gives me some nice EIT data on one mux, but nothing at all on another, strange |
| 04:52 | <stuarta> | not really |
| 04:52 | <stuarta> | it's a common configuration to have all EIT data on 1 mux |
| 04:53 | <janneg> | RTL fixup tries to extract episode title or number and to remove Rerun from ... |
| 04:53 | <stuarta> | although it mainly occurs on dvb-s |
| 04:54 | <janneg> | it is uncommon for german DVB-T |
| 04:55 | <dekarl> | janneg, i've been looking for tele5 eit data and saw nothing |
| 04:55 | <stuarta> | do you get that on a STB? |
| 04:56 | <dekarl> | I don't owns a STB... |
| 04:56 | <dekarl> | but I've seen reports on the net that claim missing data over here while it's provided in other DVB-T regions |
| 04:57 | <stuarta> | hence why i was asking if it's seen on a STB |
| 04:57 | <stuarta> | ask a friend ;-) |
| 04:57 | <stuarta> | it's entirely possible the broadcaster is being rubbish |
| 05:02 | <stuarta> | there's a started state on track now? blimey |
| 05:08 | <okolsi> | stuarta: any possibility to get #3765 in..? |
| 05:08 | <stuarta> | it's on my list :) |
| 05:09 | <stuarta> | i've reserved jan for working on things |
| 05:09 | <gbee> | stuarta: part of the new 'open source' workflow that Isaac switched to |
| 05:09 | <okolsi> | okay, no problem :) |
| 05:09 | <stuarta> | gbee: cool |
| 05:09 | <stuarta> | now if we all go and classify our tickets appropriately we'll know what's going on |
| 05:10 | <gbee> | it's a nice touch, not sure some of these state changes should generate emails to the list though because if they are used properly it will double/triple list traffic |
| 05:10 | <stuarta> | true. just from now on then. |
| 05:29 | <dekarl> | janneg: are you in germany, too? |
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| 05:37 | <dekarl> | dvbsnoop only finds now+next too, so it's time to look at regexpen etc for rtl/rtl2/vox (all part of the rtl group with almost the same EITMessUps) |
| 05:40 | <stuarta> | sounds like they aren't broadcasting anything but now/next |
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| 06:52 | <o_cee> | Anduin: thanks, that seemed to have fixed that problem |
| 07:20 | <gbee> | does the upnp music stuff work with trunks schema? Can't see where it loads the directory information |
| 07:31 | <okolsi> | it should work.. I think |
| 07:32 | <okolsi> | I can easily copy files/songs from the backend to a phone.. streaming doesn't work |
| 07:32 | <okolsi> | so it finds the files/directories.. |
| 07:45 | <okolsi> | in code, there are several other browsing methods in comments.. like Browse by Genre etc. |
| 07:48 | <okolsi> | I was unclear earlier.. apparently some UPnP clients can stream also music.. but with my client it won't work |
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| 08:08 | <janneg> | dekarl: sorry, I was offline. switched telephone and internet provider |
| 08:08 | <janneg> | dekarl: I'm in Berlin |
| 08:09 | <dekarl> | ok, I almost thought that :) (DVB-T Berlin in the comments :) |
| 08:11 | <dekarl> | Do you have the same RTL Group style EIT Mess Ups (repeart etc) on RTL2, VOX? |
| 08:12 | <janneg> | they are slightly different. I already thought of seperating them |
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| 08:20 | <dekarl> | EITfixups for VOX would be greatly appreciated (that's what got me started to look into EIT fixes) |
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| 08:58 | <gbee> | anyone know if recstartts returned from the scheduler list includes the global preroll? I've been trying to work it out for the last 30 minutes but I keep running into dead-ends in the scheduler |
| 09:05 | <gbee> | I'm going to guess it doesn't, since I can't find any evidence of it |
| 09:07 | <jarle> | Anybody been working on getting mythvideo to play video from .rar archives? |
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| 09:29 | <gbee> | jarle: think someone mentioned it a month ago, but they weren't working on it |
| 09:29 | <gbee> | as I don't download videos, what's the benefit of them being rar'd? |
| 09:30 | [~] | stuarta was just wondering that too |
| 09:34 | <jarle> | gbee: if you DO download videos, they often happen to be rar'd though... |
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| 09:36 | <justinh> | hmmm. compressing an already highly compressed video. no dice :) |
| 09:36 | <stuarta> | utterly pointless really |
| 09:36 | <gbee> | jarle: isn't that what unrar is for? |
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| 09:39 | [~] | justinh goes back to being stuck making something to parse a theme xml file |
| 09:41 | [~] | stuarta offer justinh perl's XML libs |
| 09:41 | <justinh> | nah this is for me plugin thingy |
| 09:42 | [~] | stuarta goes back to hacking / coding websites |
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| 10:33 | <gbee> | Captain_Murdoch: presumably if the decoder and NVP are rebuilding the seektable in mythcommflag, then it would be extremely simple to have mythfrontend build a new seek table for a recording the first time it is played back |
| 10:33 | <gbee> | the moment I typed that, I spotted the flaw in the plan |
| 10:34 | <gbee> | ignore me, I've got plenty of tickets to work on, don't really need to start on new stuff |
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| 10:41 | <stuarta> | it's not entirely flawed as a plan |
| 10:43 | <gbee> | only works assuming the user doesn't exit early or jump around, it could probably be made to work but it's not as simple as I first thought |
| 10:43 | <janneg> | the flaw is the assumption that the recording will be played completely without seeking |
| 10:43 | <gbee> | exactly |
| 10:44 | <gbee> | where does source numbering start, at zero or one? |
| 10:44 | <janneg> | 1 |
| 10:44 | <stuarta> | unless you can do the seektable build as a background task |
| 10:45 | <gbee> | stuarta: that's what I'd suggest instead, but I think others would prefer to use mythcommflag as that task, rather than running the build in a low priority thread |
| 10:45 | <janneg> | you could do it but then it could be done in a seperate process from begin |
| 10:46 | <stuarta> | the question is really, how do we end up with a recording without a seektable? |
| 10:46 | <gbee> | for aesthetic reasons I don't like having mythcommflag/mythtranscode doing the job, but that's just my POV |
| 10:47 | <gbee> | stuarta: database corruption, lost database or in the case which sparked this discussions, videos created outside mythtv e.g. mythvideo |
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| 10:48 | <stuarta> | in the case of importing a video, it should trigger seektable build IMHO |
| 10:50 | <gbee> | stuarta: I'd agree and whether that is done in a thread or an external process, it should be automatic and not apparent to the end user |
| 10:50 | <justinh> | finally getting somewhere here :) |
| 10:50 | <gbee> | same for recordings missing a seektable, if at the start of playback (or through a check in the housekeeper) we find a recording without a seektable then we should start building one |
| 10:51 | <stuarta> | the user has to do that updating the video database anyway, so that can be used to put a job into the jobqueue |
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| 10:54 | <stuarta> | i definitely think it should just queue a job, then let the job queue run it when it's allowed to |
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| 11:00 | <jmusits> | hey all I was wondering if anyone was actively working on ticket #1116, if not I would like to help out and do some development on it |
| 11:01 | <jmusits> | it is currently owned by cpinkham, and it involves displaying the space available for recordings (basically the free space minus the LiveTV recordings and recordings that are set for auto expire) |
| 11:01 | <gbee> | jmusits: ask Captain_Murdoch, it's his ticket |
| 11:02 | <jmusits> | gbee: thanks, I will |
| 11:05 | <jmusits> | unfortuantely I have to run, I will look for Captain_Murdoch later, thanks again for the info gbee |
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| 12:54 | <gbee> | looking at the default/default-wide folders (installed, not source) which selectbar style does everyone prefer? I think I might spend an hour changing them to be consistant in look but don't know which style is best |
| 12:56 | <gbee> | the white lines are the most widely used |
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| 13:40 | <clever[rev]> | . |
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| 13:49 | <Anduin> | gbee: Why should the look be consistent? |
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| 14:21 | <justinh> | I'd have thought the importance of consistency would be obvious |
| 14:21 | <justinh> | gbee: definitely prefer white lines over the grotty filled rectangle |
| 14:22 | <justinh> | another filled rectangle might be nice though, with a little highlight at the top. right angles scale better than curves too |
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| 14:31 | <gbee> | didn't expect anyone to ask why it's needed |
| 14:32 | <GreyFoxx> | anyone here familiar with the housekeeper code? |
| 14:33 | <GreyFoxx> | wantToRun() specifically? |
| 14:36 | <gbee> | justinh: don't have any ideas currently, unless I'm copying an existing style I think I'd prefer to leave it alone |
| 14:36 | <gbee> | gets too complicated if I have to come up with something new then get everyone to agree on the look |
| 14:37 | <gbee> | maybe if I wasn't concerned about everyone liking the result I'd be free to just make the change |
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| 15:16 | <justinh> | gbee: self same thing that put me off looking at them. only way would be to make before & after screenshots of every theme that uses the default images |
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| 15:20 | <gbee> | it needs to be done, there are at least five different styles of select bars, ranging from light blue gradient, dark blue gradient, light blue with clouds to the white lines |
| 15:20 | <gbee> | as far as buttons go, every plugin uses it's own style there too |
| 15:21 | <gbee> | it's a mess, which people only tolerate because it's been that way for years and they've grown used to it |
| 15:22 | <justinh> | I put it on my infamous todo list around the time I started reworking the box graphics |
| 15:22 | <gbee> | I really don't know why anyone would want mythweather to look different to mythvideo, mythmusic to bare no resemblance to mythgallery |
| 15:23 | <justinh> | I don't honestly believe anybody sat down & thought about it much |
| 15:24 | <gbee> | can't think that they did, why else would none of the core themes be so incomplete |
| 15:24 | <justinh> | fair play though, I can't draw better than I can't code ;) |
| 15:26 | <gbee> | heh |
| 15:27 | <gbee> | I'm getting _way_ too attached to this project |
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| 15:28 | <justinh> | I can't remember where I'm up to in my coding exercise |
| 15:28 | <justinh> | it compiles fine & doesn't segfault but it doesn't really _do_ anything yet |
| 15:29 | <gbee> | I'm in the same position, but with two dozen patches |
| 15:30 | <justinh> | ahh I remember now. want to remove the need to hard code the arrow image filenames |
| 15:30 | <gbee> | need to clear the decks and start fresh |
| 15:31 | <justinh> | 152 lines of doing nowt :) |
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| 15:39 | <gbee> | I'll be expecting you to help close a few tickets once you've got this coding lark figured out ;) |
| 15:40 | <justinh> | one of the reasons I want to learn - I want to help make mythtv better, faster :) |
| 15:40 | <justinh> | plus it'll keep my brain active since work isn't exactly going that way |
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| 15:54 | <jarle> | justinh: I sent you a e-mail the other day about EPG not working correctly in blootube-wide... Strange thing, suddenly it started working OK so never mind my mail :) |
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| 16:28 | <clever[rev]> | Captain_Murdoch: found a file with the f'ed up seektable |
| 16:28 | <clever[rev]> | Captain_Murdoch: fastforward took me several mins backwards |
| 16:31 | <clever[rev]> | /media/mainlv/mythtv/1045_20071219095900.nuv is the exact file so one of us can remind me later |
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