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| 00:03 | [~] | jhulst kicks mythtv.org |
| 00:10 | <jams> | it does appear to not be responding |
| 00:11 | [~] | jams wonders if Snow-Man or chutt is working on the problem. |
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| 00:20 | <Chutt> | jams, here now |
| 00:20 | <Chutt> | i just pinged the osuosl channel |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | dunno if anyone's there, though |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | and just emailed their support alias |
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| 00:27 | <clever> | and here i was blaming xp |
| 00:28 | <clever> | but it does seem to be the fault of5 of my connection errors |
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| 01:48 | <mdew-home> | how do you setup -multirec properly? anything required in myth-setup? |
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| 02:12 | <xris> | mdew-home: please read the topic so you don't think we're rude for not answering. |
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| 03:33 | <sxealex> | ive checked mythtv-users and ubuntu-mythtv but no one can help me with a LiveTv problem on gutsy... any other rooms around? |
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| 03:45 | <rooaus> | sxealex: See topic, you need to wait for someone to help in #mythtv |
| 03:56 | <rooaus> | ^^^ #mythtv-users I meant |
| 03:59 | <stuarta> | please repeat after me "IRC does not have *rooms*" |
| 04:00 | <mdew-home> | hallways? |
| 04:00 | <stuarta> | it has channels |
| 04:00 | [~] | stuarta rants about the corruption of a perfectly good technology |
| 04:00 | <sxealex> | im sorry im not an irc proficienado |
| 04:01 | <stuarta> | heh, np it's pre caffeine :) |
| 04:01 | <sxealex> | i use forums usually :-/ |
| 04:01 | <sxealex> | but im impatient now |
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| 04:02 | <clever> | stuarta: im still trying to get people to stop talking about joining networks:P |
| 04:02 | <sxealex> | plus my irc client says "Join Room" :) |
| 04:03 | [~] | rooaus has moved on to Coopers Best Extra, caffeine is so this morning... ;) |
| 04:03 | <clever> | damn dirty client! |
| 04:03 | <clever> | :P |
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| 04:04 | [~] | stuarta gets jealous of rooaus and the nice warm christmas's i used to have |
| 04:05 | <stuarta> | clever: tbf you do join irc networks |
| 04:06 | <clever> | lol |
| 04:06 | <clever> | i think of it more as connection |
| 04:06 | <clever> | most of the noobs i talk to ask how to autoJOIN an irc network |
| 04:06 | <clever> | and how to CONNECT to a channel |
| 04:06 | <rooaus> | stuarta: Was 43 Deg here new year eve :) |
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| 04:07 | <rooaus> | ^^^ Melbourne that is! |
| 04:07 | [~] | clever goes off to sleep |
| 04:08 | <sxealex> | yea its 4am here i probably should just do that too |
| 04:08 | <stuarta> | clever: ah yes, connect to network, join channel |
| 04:08 | <clever> | yeah |
| 04:08 | [~] | stuarta trouts himself |
| 04:08 | <clever> | lol |
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| 06:29 | <justinh> | you're kidding me... mythweather's setup menu on the left hand side aren't themable in weather-ui.xml?! |
| 06:30 | <justinh> | I thought "I'll just quickly dip in here & give the menus a bit more room in -wide.. ". duh |
| 06:32 | <stuarta> | you can actually set it up? |
| 06:33 | <stuarta> | i can't define a screen to save my life |
| 06:33 | <stuarta> | dunno if the grabbers don't install or what |
| 06:35 | <justinh> | doh. it's mythui innit. listbtnarea |
| 06:39 | <justinh> | stuarta: even with the right scripts etc it's not all that easy. complete PITA I'd call it |
| 06:40 | <justinh> | other people's idea of logic isn't the same as mine apparently. wouldn't be surprised if somebody said the same of my appearance thing |
| 06:41 | <stuarta> | i might give it a good bash tonight |
| 06:41 | <stuarta> | and trout gbee if needed ;-) |
| 06:41 | <justinh> | some good documentation would help a lot. it's on my list somewhere |
| 06:42 | <stuarta> | anyone up for a bug squashing party this weekend? |
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| 06:42 | <justinh> | depends on the bugs... and what mrs justinh has planned |
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| 06:42 | <gbee> | dunno, think I may be pretty busy but otherwise |
| 06:43 | <stuarta> | i'm free for a change |
| 06:43 | <stuarta> | so i'm working on mine first |
| 06:43 | <stuarta> | then anything else i can find |
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| 06:57 | <justinh> | nobody else noticed a wee problem with UIRemoteEditType ? I can't enter zeros here |
| 06:57 | <stuarta> | small technical problem that is |
| 06:57 | <MrGandalf> | bah, who needs zeros.. |
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| 06:58 | <gbee> | justinh: heh, never noticed that before - hit enter/select and you can use the popup keyboard |
| 06:58 | <justinh> | I know |
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| 06:58 | <gbee> | ah for some reason zero is 9 |
| 06:58 | <stuarta> | wtf? |
| 06:58 | <justinh> | what the?! |
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| 06:59 | <justinh> | whose mobile has 0 on the '9' key? |
| 06:59 | <justinh> | I smell a patch not far off |
| 07:00 | <justinh> | actually this brings up an important point. remote text editing or onscreen keyboard. not both IMHO |
| 07:02 | <gbee> | justinh: I'm with you there, I don't particularly like UIRemoteEditType because you can't turn off the 'remote edit' part of it, so that makes editing numerical only field challenging e.g. Year in mythmusic metadata editor |
| 07:02 | <stuarta> | pita that is |
| 07:02 | <gbee> | but UIRemoteEdit will get replaced eventually by something new for mythui |
| 07:03 | <stuarta> | a dual personality thing maybe? |
| 07:03 | <justinh> | the search results in mythweather need a new popup |
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| 07:05 | <justinh> | for a start though would anybody object to changing the action for the 9 key to remove 0 from the list and make the 0 key alternate between space and zero like on phones? |
| 07:06 | <stuarta> | not me |
| 07:06 | <justinh> | ooo |
| 07:06 | <justinh> | just had another idea |
| 07:06 | <stuarta> | did it hurt? |
| 07:06 | <justinh> | when you're in an edit box, maybe have a spare key not used in that context to swap between number, alpha & alphanum modes |
| 07:07 | <stuarta> | make it themeable |
| 07:07 | <stuarta> | ie. mode=alphanum|numeric |
| 07:07 | <gbee> | justinh: might be easier to make it themeable as stuarta says <remoteedit type="alpha"> etc |
| 07:08 | <justinh> | yeah ok but 0 still needs fixing :) |
| 07:08 | <stuarta> | however we must remember ATSC end up with chan numbers like 12_1 |
| 07:09 | <Merlin83b2> | What you just suggested is exactly what my mobile does, justinh. |
| 07:10 | <stuarta> | mine also does newline, but you wouldn't need there here |
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| 07:11 | <justinh> | I'm still getting used to all the colour fading out of mythfrontend when it's 'thinking' |
| 07:15 | [~] | stuarta grumbles 24/7 isn't a partnumber/parttotal |
| 07:19 | <Merlin83b2> | Heh. |
| 07:19 | <Merlin83b2> | Okay, I shouldn't have come back. You guys are makingme want to upgrade. And for that I will need to spend a couple of hundred squids on new hardware. |
| 07:25 | <justinh> | but.. but... 0.21 is going to be out in Feb. If you were to believe everything announced on mythtvnews.com :P |
| 07:26 | <Merlin83b2> | Meh. I'd upgrade to svn anyway. |
| 07:26 | <Merlin83b2> | I'm just that kind of guy! |
| 07:34 | <stuarta> | it got announced? |
| 07:34 | <stuarta> | wtf did that? |
| 07:35 | <Merlin83b2> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/304388 |
| 07:35 | <justinh> | mythtvnews.com got an inference from a ML post saying it would likely be before the beginning of march - therefore it'll be released in Feb! Can you see the logic there? I couldn't |
| 07:38 | <stuarta> | damn websites playing join the dots... |
| 07:39 | <Merlin83b2> | That's the ML post the site used. |
| 07:42 | <gbee> | stuarta: if partnumber > parttotal then reject it? |
| 07:44 | <stuarta> | i've coded it, just maybe it hasn't updated that channel yet ;-) |
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| 07:50 | [~] | stuarta cleans out the DB and tries again |
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| 07:53 | <justinh> | btw gbee planning more widescreen mythweather changes but need to get around to setting up more screens |
| 07:53 | <justinh> | dunno how they look in 4:3 themes but the text was all over the place |
| 07:54 | <justinh> | doesn't help much when areas that appear below others onscreen are above them in the xml ;) |
| 07:55 | <gbee> | cool |
| 07:55 | <justinh> | gonna test & commit roo's minimalist ticket before I forget about it |
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| 08:30 | <stuarta> | doh, john['s done another update |
| 08:30 | <stuarta> | johnp's |
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| 08:35 | <stuarta> | damn lag |
| 08:38 | <GreyFoxx> | iamhrh: Right now myth's internal player has some serious mkv problems |
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| 09:26 | <justinh> | there we go. 2 new watermarks each for MythCenter & MythCenter-wide |
| 09:26 | <GreyFoxx> | doh |
| 09:26 | <GreyFoxx> | looks like I accidental reverted a fix I put in to the upnp stuff heh |
| 09:26 | [~] | GreyFoxx reverts reverted code |
| 09:36 | <justinh> | rooaus: even less missing images now |
| 09:37 | <rooaus> | justinh: Cheers |
| 09:37 | <justinh> | don't let me stop you though ;) |
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| 10:02 | <justinh> | that watermark background was a bit of a git |
| 10:03 | <justinh> | though I've just realised an easier way to get at it. bah |
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| 10:56 | <justinh> | oh wow mytharchive has had a re-organise |
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| 11:15 | <janneg> | I didn't know that we don't use b-frames for mpeg4. It might make sense for recordings if b-frames need more processing |
| 11:16 | <janneg> | but it is stupid for transcoding |
| 11:18 | <GreyFoxx> | we just ignore them now ? |
| 11:18 | <janneg> | maybe nuppelvideo can't handle B-Frames the result of using them was certainly wrong |
| 11:18 | <janneg> | yeah, our mpeg4 videos have no b-frames |
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| 11:20 | [~] | janneg hunts atm the double video bitrate bug |
| 11:22 | <janneg> | but I can't see that's wrong |
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| 11:38 | <anykey_> | janneg: where would I enable x264 multithreading? |
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| 11:41 | <momelod> | hello, is there a seperate room for mythtv users? |
| 11:41 | <GreyFoxx> | momelod: #mythtv-users |
| 11:41 | <momelod> | lol, of course |
| 11:41 | <momelod> | thank you |
| 11:41 | <GreyFoxx> | np :)_ |
| 11:41 | <momelod> | since im here tho, thanx for mythtv, keep up the good work :) |
| 11:41 | <GreyFoxx> | heh |
| 11:43 | <anykey_> | Does someone of you know where to enable multithreaded h264? |
| 11:43 | <GreyFoxx> | anykey_: not me. I don't know the status of that stuff |
| 11:49 | <justinh> | rooaus: I could be wrong but looks like all the missing watermarks are gone from MythCenter & MythCenter-wide now |
| 11:49 | <gbee> | xris: I'll fix the colour, I think I must have accidently sampled the wrong one |
| 11:51 | <justinh> | gbee: reckon it's worth finishing off mythappearance completely? apart from it doesn't use mythui yet it's only missing a menu xlm entry now |
| 11:53 | <jarle_> | anykey_: I was of the impression that the multithread playback was only available as a patch (that still isn't committed to trunk?) |
| 11:53 | <gbee> | justinh: finish it, can be converted to mythui later but I think I'm going to be very busy over the next two/three weeks, so I can't help with that or getting it integrated with the frontend until my work load lightens up again |
| 11:54 | <justinh> | I'm planning to have a go converting it myself. looks too daunting right now. need to understand more |
| 11:54 | <gbee> | justinh: might as well use that time to get feedback and testing |
| 11:54 | <justinh> | right, I was just thinking about possible static being caused by a new commit of a plugin which doesn't use mythui ;) |
| 11:55 | <gbee> | justinh: wouldn't worry |
| 11:56 | <gbee> | I think you should have all the widgets you need, so you should be able to convert it over without too much hassle, but it would be easier with an example of the new screen stack stuff |
| 11:57 | <justinh> | yeah I picked up the example in hellomyth from the wiki quite well. went quite smooth apart from the weird issues I ran into, all told ;) |
| 11:59 | <justinh> | that and my lack of c++ fundamentals but hey. I'll learn |
| 12:01 | <anykey_> | jarle_: I've found the patch, but it doesn't seem to create two threads |
| 12:01 | <anykey_> | jarle_: i'm using http://www.grunau.be/multithreaded-decoding_2.patch |
| 12:02 | <laga> | anykey_: have you asked janneg and/or read the related threads on mythtv-dev? |
| 12:02 | <anykey_> | laga: not yet |
| 12:03 | <jarle_> | anykey_: I'm using pre-built trunk packages, so I do not know anything about this patch, I'm just hoping it will be added to the main trunk... |
| 12:03 | <xris> | gbee: sweet, thanks |
| 12:05 | <jarle_> | anykey_: latest svn mplayer also supports threaded playback (I still seem to have problems getting 1080P playback fine though... :( |
| 12:06 | <anykey_> | jarle_: I've got 720p problems here on a c2d 2.2ghz |
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| 12:08 | <jarle_> | anykey_: never had any problems with 720p, even using the internal player without threads... |
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| 12:09 | <jamazon> | Hey all. I'm new here. Was wondering if anyone knows of any development going into a BBC iPLayer plugin? |
| 12:10 | <xris> | jamazon: not that I've heard of. would be cool, though (even if I can't use it because they discriminate against non-brits ;) |
| 12:10 | <anykey_> | jarle_: well, they send about 16-20mbit/s here.. |
| 12:11 | <jamazon> | yeh they do :) for good reason they. they force us to pay for it |
| 12:11 | <jamazon> | i know someones put together a php script that harvests the iplayer builds myth menus, but thats all so far |
| 12:12 | <jamazon> | time to go learn C i think |
| 12:12 | <GreyFoxx> | c++ :) |
| 12:12 | <GreyFoxx> | there is a example basic hello world plugin example in the wiki I think |
| 12:12 | <justinh> | hmmm what's the best way to add an item to an xml file - e.g. to make a new menu entry in a plugin? |
| 12:13 | <justinh> | from a .pro I mean |
| 12:13 | <justinh> | just have an up to date copy in the plugin source dir & install it as with any other file? or run a script & patch it? |
| 12:13 | <GreyFoxx> | dammit, someone just unplugged something they shouldn't, bbiab |
| 12:14 | <laga> | justinh: why would you need to do that? do you want to add a new menu entry when your plugins is installed? |
| 12:14 | <jamazon> | c++ even :) |
| 12:14 | <justinh> | plugins can't run if there's no menu entry for em |
| 12:15 | <justinh> | doh! should only update the util_menu.xml or whatever in trunk already. don't make another copy to keep up to date |
| 12:15 | <laga> | justinh: just create the menu entry in the xml file. if the plugin is not installed.. you got it |
| 12:15 | <justinh> | being thick today |
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| 12:16 | <gbee> | jamazon: there was a suggestion from a journalist who interviewed one of the BBC technical bods that the BBC themselves were writing a plugin |
| 12:19 | <gbee> | something of an olive branch to the opensource community, but the article was incoherent at best so I honestly don't know if it's true or what the details are |
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| 12:21 | <jarle_> | gbee: What is this BBC thing you guys are discussing? |
| 12:21 | <Merlin83b2> | bbc.co.uk/iplayer |
| 12:22 | <gbee> | jarle_: BBC are putting some of their shows on the internet for streaming to UK users |
| 12:22 | <Merlin83b2> | All their shows, isn't it? |
| 12:22 | <Merlin83b2> | For 7 days after original air date. |
| 12:22 | <gbee> | Merlin83b2: could be, didn't really pay attention because I've no use for it |
| 12:22 | <jarle_> | gbee: sounds cool.... BBC has a lot of good stuff... |
| 12:23 | <gbee> | uses a convoluted/obscure streaming method though, so reverse engineering it could be a pain |
| 12:23 | <gbee> | they will be releasing a linux player though and if the rumour about a mythtv plugin is true, then it will save everyone some work |
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| 12:24 | <jams> | speaking on plugin entries, GreyFoxx think the mythsmolt menu entry will be in before .21? |
| 12:25 | <justinh> | just a sanity check.. only need a .pro, the .h & .cpp files in svn yesh? |
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| 12:25 | <justinh> | and anything else the .pro specifies.. |
| 12:26 | <GreyFoxx> | jams: yeah I'll put it in today |
| 12:26 | <gbee> | justinh: images and xml, yeah |
| 12:26 | <jams> | xml files/images |
| 12:26 | <jams> | GreyFoxx- thanks |
| 12:26 | [~] | GreyFoxx grumbles about "techies" touching his network. Grrr |
| 12:29 | <jarle_> | As far as I can gather Iplayer is already available for linux: BBC iPlayer after a lot of complains, petitions, talks and discussions is finally available for GNU/Linux as beta"" |
| 12:31 | <justinh> | here goes. just shoot me |
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| 12:35 | <justinh> | jarle: maybe 8 people picketing the BBC HQ helped too :P |
| 12:35 | <gbee> | jarle: they have a flash player which works for linux, but no direct stream/download for linux unlike Windows |
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| 12:36 | <gbee> | the flash player is better than nothing and you can already use it from within mythbrowser |
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| 12:36 | <justinh> | do you know anybody who uses the iplayer already? I've yet to hear anything good about it. "better than nothing" is about the standard of comment from folks I work with |
| 12:37 | <gbee> | if you don't mind flash video quality or the fact that their flash player is one of those which doesn't seem to go fullscreen when you hit the 'fullscreen' button, then it's fine |
| 12:38 | <gbee> | but I'd rather record things off freeview/satellite than watch a 400x300 flash video version |
| 12:39 | <justinh> | heh. always |
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| 12:39 | <justinh> | who need iplayer when we'll have multirec slapping everything we could conceivably ever want to watch onto HDD? |
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| 12:40 | <gbee> | and BBC HD now FTA on satellite |
| 12:40 | <gbee> | bbl |
| 12:40 | [~] | justinh imagines a new storage group... weeklongscratchpad :P |
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| 12:42 | <laga> | justinh: is mythappearance supposed to build within mythplugins? or do i have to qmake mythappearance.pro manually? |
| 12:42 | <laga> | justinh: it built fine |
| 12:42 | <justinh> | oh bum I forgot to update mythplugins.pro |
| 12:43 | <GreyFoxx> | config.pro |
| 12:43 | <GreyFoxx> | which is filled in my ./configure |
| 12:43 | <justinh> | heh yeah that |
| 12:44 | <GreyFoxx> | so users so a few lines in configure, then users just rerun ./configure |
| 12:45 | <laga> | justinh: did you actually commit that menu entry? |
| 12:45 | <gnome42> | Good day! |
| 12:45 | <justinh> | no I didn't yet |
| 12:46 | <GreyFoxx> | laga: You can cheat without the xml file |
| 12:47 | <GreyFoxx> | "mythfrontend pluginname" jumps right to the plugin |
| 12:47 | <justinh> | balls. I wanted this to be free of cockups |
| 12:47 | <GreyFoxx> | mythfrontend mythappearance |
| 12:47 | <gnome42> | fix-of-the-day: http://zeke.yi.org/mythtv/fixes/mythtv_MythEvent_extradata_truncate.diff |
| 12:48 | <GreyFoxx> | justinh: Nice work! it worked fine for me |
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| 12:48 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: yeah, just did that. thanks :) |
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| 12:48 | <laga> | yes, works fine here, too. |
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| 12:48 | <GreyFoxx> | hehe though I think I see a flaw, but not mythappearances fault |
| 12:49 | <laga> | justinh: when i hit "reset screen size settings and quit", it'll reload the frontend. is that intentional? |
| 12:49 | <justinh> | obvious limitations atm are that it won't really work if you run mythfrontend with a geometry override |
| 12:49 | <GreyFoxx> | all ok reset is what I was looking for actuallty |
| 12:49 | <justinh> | laga: yeah. needs to be explained in the doc |
| 12:49 | <GreyFoxx> | I was trying to grow it back up after shrinking it |
| 12:50 | <GreyFoxx> | but the reset did the job |
| 12:50 | <laga> | that'll leave me with an empty screen (just the theme background) because i started it like "mythfrontend appearance" |
| 12:50 | <laga> | oh. |
| 12:50 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: yeah it can't do that but then drawing outside the window isn't what the UI libs can do |
| 12:50 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: now i understand why it resets the screen |
| 12:50 | <laga> | justinh: would it make sense not to reload if the settings didn't change? |
| 12:51 | <justinh> | if you do save & quit or reset & not change the settings? |
| 12:51 | <justinh> | should be an easy fix |
| 12:51 | <justinh> | if (!changed) { quit(); ) |
| 12:52 | <justinh> | er.. reject(); even |
| 12:52 | <laga> | if i reset when i didn't change any settings. |
| 12:52 | <justinh> | yeah I can add that I think. |
| 12:52 | <laga> | justinh: this looks like an awesome addition. i'll try it on my TV in a second. good job |
| 12:52 | <justinh> | didn't think of that case. trust you! ;) |
| 12:52 | <justinh> | I've wanted this for so long you wouldn't believe |
| 12:53 | <laga> | heh |
| 12:53 | <GreyFoxx> | justinh: yeah, once the xml and configure changes are in (make sure to note that a ./configure is needed in the commit log) it will be pretty sweet :) |
| 12:53 | <laga> | i wonder how well it will work on a CRT TV set, with the odd geometry and that |
| 12:53 | <GreyFoxx> | I'm gonna use it when I get home on a CRT |
| 12:53 | <justinh> | it's in there for testing & fine tuning. and general lambasting |
| 12:58 | [~] | justinh tests the new change check |
| 13:04 | <justinh> | ouch. that's gonna need some work |
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| 13:24 | <justinh> | oof. still need a clean way to close the popup menu & quit |
| 13:24 | <justinh> | or maybe just not do anything |
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| 13:33 | <justinh> | laga: now got it so that those menu options won't do anything if the settings haven't been changed |
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| 14:01 | <gbee> | xris: this any better? http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/newmyth/tv25.png |
| 14:01 | <gbee> | might need to force a refresh as I reused the same filename |
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| 14:53 | <justinh> | laga: you got your crazy use case |
| 14:54 | <justinh> | now the popup only gets savequit & reset if you've changed anything |
| 14:54 | <stuarta> | nice |
| 14:55 | <justinh> | and changes are registered properly now so if you move the arrows back to their original locations that's classed as no change |
| 14:56 | <justinh> | bollocks. forgot something again. man slap me if I rush anything again |
| 14:58 | [~] | gbee coughs up his left lung |
| 14:58 | <justinh> | like you should never go food shopping when you're hungry, never code |
| 14:58 | <justinh> | you wanna lay off those woodbines gbee ;) |
| 14:59 | [~] | stuarta chuckles |
| 14:59 | <stuarta> | another case of man flu? |
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| 15:00 | <gbee> | nothing that fatal ;) |
| 15:00 | <justinh> | nuts. pulling m_changed = true; from the move functions has screwed it up. doing the test in the keypress handler which should be ok |
| 15:00 | <stuarta> | being half a lung down can't be good |
| 15:01 | <gbee> | stuarta: I'm chest half full kinda guy |
| 15:09 | [~] | justinh trouts himself. spot the deliberate mistake in anythingChanged() |
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| 15:44 | <justinh> | yay fixed it |
| 15:46 | <justinh> | need to fix the indents on that though. messy |
| 15:47 | <justinh> | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/mythappearance/mythappearance.cpp - does that look ok? |
| 15:49 | <stuarta> | in ::getSettings you initialize a few variables then load in some data from the gContext |
| 15:49 | <stuarta> | you should move the initialization to the constructor |
| 15:50 | <stuarta> | good practice dictates all internal variables are initialized in the contructor |
| 15:51 | <justinh> | right & that's in main.cpp right? |
| 15:51 | <stuarta> | i'm only looking at MythAppearance |
| 15:51 | <justinh> | so basically just where I initialise the other stuff then |
| 15:52 | <stuarta> | yeah |
| 15:52 | <stuarta> | not that it really matters since you load into the straight away, but it's good practice to get into |
| 15:52 | <stuarta> | leads to more maintainable code in the long run. |
| 15:53 | <justinh> | okees. not sure I even need wmult & hmult |
| 15:53 | <justinh> | er... m_wmult & m_hmult I mean |
| 15:53 | <stuarta> | you probably still need those where they are |
| 15:54 | <stuarta> | unless gContext->GetScreenSettings() support being called with null for those args |
| 15:54 | <justinh> | I don't think it does |
| 15:54 | <stuarta> | so those 2 are correct |
| 15:54 | <stuarta> | just the m_screenheight = 0, m_screenwidth = 0; should be moved |
| 15:54 | <justinh> | ok so otherwise the code looks alright? |
| 15:55 | <stuarta> | still looking |
| 15:55 | <justinh> | I'm not sure I can trust my editor's autoindenting yet. it didn't indent 2 lines between braces in an if |
| 15:59 | <stuarta> | looks okay at first reading |
| 16:02 | <justinh> | cheers stuarta :) |
| 16:02 | [~] | justinh beers stuarta |
| 16:02 | <stuarta> | thanks |
| 16:03 | [~] | stuarta puts it aside till after jan detox :( |
| 16:03 | <justinh> | ouchy |
| 16:03 | <stuarta> | i've decided i need it |
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| 16:05 | <gnome42> | stuarta: heh, still hurtin'? |
| 16:06 | <stuarta> | nah, just wanted to |
| 16:06 | <justinh> | I had a bit of a drink NYE. 1 glass of wine & 2 generous shots of JD. A record low |
| 16:06 | <gnome42> | ahh, signs of deep wisdom :) |
| 16:07 | <stuarta> | drank more NYD than NYE |
| 16:08 | <gnome42> | stuarta: hardcore! :) |
| 16:08 | <stuarta> | possibly why i've decided it's in my interests to have the month off |
| 16:09 | <gnome42> | stuarta: If you are in a code reviewing mood ... Any thoughts on the fix-o-the-day I posted earlier would be great. |
| 16:09 | <justinh> | every time I go out & end up having a month or more off. getting drunk is starting to get very old. inevitable but old |
| 16:09 | <stuarta> | i liked it |
| 16:10 | <gnome42> | took me a looong time to find that one ... |
| 16:10 | <stuarta> | we've decided just to buy cases of wine and drink that |
| 16:10 | <stuarta> | gnome42: can you stick it in a ticket. i'm coding this weekend :) |
| 16:11 | <gnome42> | stuarta: k, I was soing to after I had run it for a while longer |
| 16:11 | <stuarta> | that would be wise ;-) |
| 16:11 | <stuarta> | what's it supposed to fix anyways? |
| 16:12 | <stuarta> | (i read it like 8hrs ago) |
| 16:13 | <gnome42> | it fixes several intermittant problems. |
| 16:13 | <gnome42> | that's what was driving me nutz. Sometimes things worked sometimes not! |
| 16:15 | <gnome42> | Anything that used PlaybackSock::SendReceiveStringList() with a MythEvent with extradata larger than one element could be hit by the bug |
| 16:15 | <stuarta> | ah yes i remember now |
| 16:16 | <gnome42> | for me it often caused livetv to not allow a scheduled recording to preeempt it |
| 16:16 | <gnome42> | so when I forgot I left livetv running some of my shows would be missed |
| 16:17 | <stuarta> | see i only use livetv for testing :) |
| 16:17 | <gnome42> | that reminds me of another buglet I found on the journey |
| 16:17 | <gnome42> | yeah, me too mostly but apparently I forget about it a lot! :)) |
| 16:20 | <gnome42> | I think I've audited the whole tree for that class of bug. There are only two instances of the bug and one isn't even ever hit, but I fixed it anyways. |
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| 16:21 | <gbee> | gnome42: I'd really admire your persistance and work on fixing these bugs |
| 16:22 | <gbee> | s/I'd/I/ |
| 16:22 | <gnome42> | gbee: thanks, if it wasn't for the good atmosphere I wouldn't be doing it. :) |
| 16:23 | <justinh> | at this point I have to say I'm eternally grateful for the hints, tips & general wakeup calls I've had from here too. Lookin at you gbee, stuarta, anduin et al :) |
| 16:25 | <gbee> | group hug? :p |
| 16:25 | <gnome42> | lol! took the words! |
| 16:25 | [~] | stuarta group hugs |
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| 16:33 | [~] | stuarta decides to test the funky new channel icon importer |
| 16:35 | <stuarta> | Error from findmissing : # |
| 16:36 | <gbee> | stuarta: ignore that for now, I don't think we are getting an error at all, but I need to clarify the valid/invalid responses with xris |
| 16:36 | <stuarta> | ok. |
| 16:37 | <xris> | gbee: and I've been a slacker and haven't looked into any of that stuff yet |
| 16:37 | <stuarta> | think we'll need to add a way to review the icons it suggests |
| 16:37 | <xris> | stuarta: yes... |
| 16:37 | <xris> | that's why I want a gui for it. |
| 16:37 | <gbee> | stuarta: there is, unless those matches have been approved |
| 16:37 | <stuarta> | in this case |
| 16:37 | <stuarta> | it didn't find ITV |
| 16:38 | <stuarta> | so i search for ITV and get ~30 odd stations |
| 16:38 | <stuarta> | how does joe average know which one is correct without being able to see them? |
| 16:38 | <xris> | that's why I wanted to get it into mythweb... heh. |
| 16:38 | <gbee> | stuarta: ahh, so show a thumbnail of each possible match? |
| 16:39 | <xris> | yeah |
| 16:39 | <stuarta> | maybe, or just show if selected |
| 16:39 | <xris> | gbee: that's the whole point of doing it in a gui |
| 16:39 | <stuarta> | though they aren't big |
| 16:39 | <gbee> | stuarta: I'd do the latter, shouldn't be hard |
| 16:39 | <xris> | lots of people screw up their submissions because they can only see the channel name now, and a lot of the different icons have the same name |
| 16:39 | <gbee> | xris: right |
| 16:40 | <stuarta> | we should probably also show the channel icon in the channel detail page |
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| 16:42 | <stuarta> | does showing thumbnails of channel icons in the channel summary page make sense? |
| 16:43 | <xris> | does to me |
| 16:43 | <xris> | though I don't use the frontend for any of that |
| 16:43 | <stuarta> | interesting |
| 16:43 | <stuarta> | the icons it asked about, haven't turned up |
| 16:44 | <gbee> | yes, but I'd probably wait until the mythwidget stuff is replaced by mythui, otherwise it means adding a whole new list/image widget to libmyth |
| 16:44 | <gbee> | stuarta: radio icons are missing, lyngsat reshuffled their pages |
| 16:44 | <stuarta> | that's wrong. channel4+1 != film4+1 |
| 16:44 | <stuarta> | bbc one and ITV 1 however? |
| 16:44 | <gbee> | stuarta: I'll change that link |
| 16:45 | <stuarta> | those i was asked about, those don't have icons |
| 16:45 | [~] | stuarta logs into services |
| 16:46 | <justinh> | oh holy poo |
| 16:46 | <gbee> | film4+1 mappings to those DVB ids have now been deleted |
| 16:46 | <justinh> | before I committed the last changes I checked they'd build on this box. all fine |
| 16:46 | <stuarta> | gbee: thanks |
| 16:46 | <justinh> | but since updating on my dev box, fails to compile |
| 16:46 | <gbee> | stuarta: how did you select the icons you were asked about? |
| 16:47 | <stuarta> | BBC ONE came up in the list of 1000 BBC stations all by itself |
| 16:47 | <stuarta> | ITV i had to put in the search bar |
| 16:47 | <gbee> | once they were listed though? The way it was written is that you select the icon from the list and press select |
| 16:47 | <stuarta> | CITV is not from canada! |
| 16:48 | <justinh> | rofl. panic over. stupidbuntu |
| 16:48 | <xris> | someone needs to come up with a better way to identify channels |
| 16:48 | <gbee> | bare in mind that I didn't write these patches, I merely fixed all the bugs I could find, made some minor improvements and committed it |
| 16:49 | <xris> | like tying xmltvid to everything |
| 16:49 | <stuarta> | gbee: this is more about the accuracy of the data in services |
| 16:49 | <justinh> | all these subtle hints that I need to get off my arse & finish my channel config wiz stuff |
| 16:49 | <gbee> | xris: I noticed that the search option in the services admin only uses the first word, so a search for "BBC One" returns everything with BBC but nothing with One |
| 16:49 | <stuarta> | xris: the dvb stuff should work okay with the netid,serviceid,theother1 |
| 16:49 | <gbee> | transportid |
| 16:49 | <xris> | it would return "^bbc one" and then "^bbc" |
| 16:50 | <stuarta> | net,transport,serviceid that's the order |
| 16:50 | <xris> | stuarta: yeah, but would be nice to tie all of that to the xmltvid |
| 16:50 | <stuarta> | could we not just make that into an xmltvid of sorts...? |
| 16:51 | <stuarta> | i may be odd, but i don't use any grabber to get my program data |
| 16:51 | <stuarta> | so, the xmltvid's mean nothing to me |
| 16:51 | <gbee> | xris: doesn't look like that is happening, at least BBC One isn't first in the list, BBC is (this is the admin search, not the client search) |
| 16:51 | <xris> | means my scoring routine isn't working properly, then |
| 16:52 | <xris> | stuarta: I want to be able to support everyone, regardless of how they get their data |
| 16:52 | <xris> | thinking I have to redesign how this works, though. |
| 16:52 | <stuarta> | yeah sure |
| 16:52 | <stuarta> | just pointing out i'm possibly an odd one out |
| 16:53 | <justinh> | I think I'm done fighting with code for a while. time to watch some telly |
| 16:53 | <xris> | lots of US users do EIT now that Z2L is gone. and I suspect there are a number of EU/UK people, too |
| 16:53 | <xris> | justinh: go watch robbin hoodie |
| 16:53 | <justinh> | blech |
| 16:53 | <xris> | hahaha |
| 16:53 | <gbee> | just approved a few more DVB mappings |
| 16:53 | <xris> | life on mars was really good.... |
| 16:53 | <xris> | but over now |
| 16:53 | <xris> | need more good british tv |
| 16:53 | <justinh> | btw I think the pseudo xmltvid is a good idea cos not all worthwhile channels have xmltv data |
| 16:54 | <xris> | justinh: yeah.. could create an xmltvid for them, even if there's no website data |
| 16:56 | <stuarta> | select networkid, transportid, serviceid, name from dtv_multiplex join channel on dtv_multiplex.mplexid=channel.mplexid; |
| 16:56 | <stuarta> | that gives me a nice list |
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| 16:59 | <xris> | I really want to redesign some of the xmltv file format to support different info for channel stuff, etc. |
| 17:00 | <xris> | maybe start building a universal database of information like channel icons (work with lyngsat) |
| 17:01 | <stuarta> | hmmm, this fixup still isn't quite right |
| 17:02 | [~] | stuarta trouts it a bit more |
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| 17:04 | <stuarta> | gbee: ew, scrolling through a list looking for Channel 4+1 doesn't work so well |
| 17:05 | <gbee> | in what way? |
| 17:06 | <stuarta> | it jumped down to the end and then i couldn't scroll back past w without it jumping down to the end again |
| 17:06 | <gbee> | actually there isn't an icon for C4+1 yet, have to use channel 4 |
| 17:06 | <stuarta> | just noticed :( |
| 17:07 | <stuarta> | however i suspect it's not specific to channel4+1 |
| 17:07 | <stuarta> | just when you have a long list |
| 17:07 | <gbee> | stuarta: nasty, not the patch itself in this case since it just uses the settings wizard stuff, but probably a bug in that stuff which might need to be fixed |
| 17:07 | <stuarta> | crap |
| 17:08 | <stuarta> | just let setup fix my permissions :( |
| 17:08 | <gbee> | let me have a look |
| 17:08 | <stuarta> | luckily i wasn't running it as root so it should have done anything |
| 17:11 | <gbee> | ouch, that IS nasty |
| 17:14 | <gbee> | stuarta: want to submit a bug report against TransListBoxSetting? I don't know if I'll get time to look at it, but at least if there is a ticket someone else might have a go and if not it will be waiting for me |
| 17:15 | <stuarta> | okay. i'll see what i can come up with |
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| 17:37 | <gbee> | xris: did you get the fixed image? |
| 17:39 | <gbee> | laga: you know who is responsible for the xmltv packages in ubuntu/kubuntu? |
| 17:40 | <gbee> | seems that although 0.20.2 was added to the Feisty backports/upgrades, a newer (required) version of xmltv wasn't so it's causing problems amongst xmltv users |
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| 17:44 | <janneg> | gnome42, stuarta: I'll apply the patch in a couple of minutes |
| 17:46 | <janneg> | gnome42: btw: did my commit fix the invalid cardid in the live-tv programinfo? |
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| 17:49 | <xris> | gbee: no, missed that |
| 17:50 | <xris> | link? |
| 17:51 | <gbee> | http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/newmyth/tv25.png |
| 17:51 | <gbee> | same filename as before, so your browser might have cached the old one |
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| 17:59 | <GreyFoxx> | Hmmm looks like Myth doesn't wanna player anything but track1 on one of my futurama season 4 disc. Spits out tons of mpeg2video errors, but mplayer plays them happily |
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| 18:05 | <GreyFoxx> | but it plays the copied vob perfectly, a seeking issue ? |
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| 18:50 | <xris> | gbee: thanks for fixing the preview bug, too. |
| 18:50 | <xris> | I'm about to go test it out. |
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| 18:53 | <justinh> | xris: re the database of stuff.. I've kinda started something like that for the UK already. got it stashed at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/chanwiz/ - all nasty at the mo but my intention is to turn it into something to work out lineups for UK users - in the hope others pick it up for more countries |
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| 18:57 | <xris> | justinh: I think we should definitely get some sort of database put together to track this info worldwide |
| 19:00 | <justinh> | I've often felt a bit envious of USA/Canada users being able to get all their channels inserted properly in one fell swoop- that's my main motivation behind it |
| 19:01 | <xris> | I'd love to have a place where people can auto-connect to xmltv schemes based on dvb/atsc numbers, etc |
| 19:01 | <justinh> | sure there are bits of scripts hovvering around the net but they're hardly what you could call definitive |
| 19:02 | <justinh> | another problem is when UK providers reorganise the channels. it happens a few times a year sometimes |
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| 19:02 | <xris> | reorganize like change the frequency id stuff? |
| 19:02 | <justinh> | getting up to date information isn't hard though, but for so many users to have to plough through it is just daft |
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| 19:03 | <justinh> | they change channel numbers, rename channels, if you can think of it they do it |
| 19:03 | <xris> | so in that case the xmltvid type field would stay the same, but some of the associated info would change. |
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| 19:04 | <justinh> | yeah. it might be tricky when channel numbers change because of the way the myth scheduler works though |
| 19:04 | <xris> | chanid should stay the same |
| 19:05 | <xris> | the biggest problem is the mechanism for updating |
| 19:05 | <xris> | I'm not inclined to trust random internet users |
| 19:05 | <justinh> | maybe build it into the frontend somehow. possibly an update notification |
| 19:06 | <justinh> | you mean you wouldn't want this to become a config aid for other PVR software ;) |
| 19:07 | <justinh> | or do you mean you wouldn't want just anybody providing updates? that should be easy to solve. just have trusted maintainers like we have with the code |
| 19:08 | <justinh> | it's a small additional burden but shouldn't be too bad split up into geographic areas of responsibility |
| 19:08 | <stuarta> | surely there's a way of merging it in with what we have now on services |
| 19:12 | <xris> | I mean I want to protect things from malicious vandals |
| 19:12 | <xris> | that's why the current channel icon thing for mythtv requires an admin to approve things |
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| 19:33 | <stuarta> | tempted to close #4425 as fixed in head. |
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| 19:39 | <janneg> | stuarta: I requested info and made the summery readable |
| 19:47 | <xris> | hmm, I don't think the 100% cpu pixmap issue is fixed |
| 19:51 | <clever> | how would i go about disabling vbi on an ivtv input card |
| 19:51 | <clever> | without having to disable vbi globaly |
| 19:54 | <laga> | gbee: well.. nobody really. suppose you should talk to superm1 since he did the last upload |
| 19:55 | <justinh> | laga: you tried out the new fixed plugin code yet? do you approve? |
| 19:55 | <justinh> | (since it's all your fault) :P |
| 19:55 | <laga> | justinh: approve? heh :) no, haven't tried the new code yet, sorry |
| 19:56 | <laga> | was watching pirates of the caribbean... |
| 19:56 | <justinh> | heh np. was just yanking your chain. I think you'll like it. it compiles & everything |
| 19:57 | <laga> | well, it does on your box :) |
| 19:57 | <justinh> | on 2 of my boxes, with different versions of the compiler n' all |
| 19:58 | <laga> | i won't power on my mythtv box tonight, but i'll try it on the laptop |
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| 20:05 | <laga> | bah. can't WOL my backend from the laptop. i'll test it tomorrow |
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| 22:22 | <justinh> | AHH that's why 0 in remotelineedit doesn't make 0. it's SHIFT. yuck |
| 22:31 | <justinh> | no way I'm touching that |
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| 23:29 | <roothorick> | I have a shocking report to make |
| 23:29 | <roothorick> | I have a SciAl Explorer 4250HDC issued by Time Warner in Appleton, WI, USA |
| 23:30 | <roothorick> | this box is known to not work with the 4200 channel changer scriptp |
| 23:30 | <roothorick> | only problem is, it does, in fact, work. At least my box does. |
| 23:31 | <roothorick> | because channels are 4-digit on my service and Myth thinks it's three-digit, there's a pause as the box waits for the last digit, but otherwise it tunes flawlessly |
| 23:32 | <roothorick> | I'm using... whatever Gentoo latest is |
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| --- | Log | closed Sat Jan 05 00:00:37 2008 |
