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| 01:40 | <Chutt> | hum |
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| 01:49 | <noige> | hi |
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| 03:51 | <RuFI0> | hello |
| 03:52 | <RuFI0> | i was wondering if some one can tell me where mythbrowser reads it configs from |
| 03:52 | <RuFI0> | like how konqueror reads it's config |
| 03:52 | <RuFI0> | where the font settings are |
| 03:52 | <RuFI0> | i can't seem to find it |
| 03:52 | <hads> | RuFI0: Wrong channel, please see the topic. |
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| 07:27 | <anykey_> | Can someone confirm #4820? |
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| 07:46 | <gbee> | lots of people, it's a known bug with a known cause and will be fixed soon |
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| 07:47 | <laga> | we've been getting some segfaults lately, i'll make sure we forward them to trac ASAP |
| 07:47 | <gbee> | laga: which version? chances are that if they were with trunk/0.21-fixes from the last week then we already know about them |
| 07:48 | <anykey_> | gbee: ok, i'll watch trac for a fix ;) |
| 07:48 | <laga> | gbee: trunk/21-fixes |
| 07:48 | <laga> | i'll probably look at trac then before posting them |
| 07:49 | <gbee> | laga: any chance you can narrow down the revision which causes that segfault in #4816? It's pretty new |
| 07:49 | <gbee> | laga: anything involving memory corruption or mythevents is related to the changes Daniel made which he now plans to revert |
| 07:49 | <laga> | gbee: ok, i'll go back 100 revisions or so (?) |
| 07:50 | <laga> | gbee: should i wait for him to revert? |
| 07:51 | <gbee> | laga: your segfault is unrelated to the mythevent changes, I've reverted them locally and can still reproduce the crash |
| 07:51 | <laga> | okay. |
| 07:51 | <gbee> | 100 revisions would be a good start, then do a binary search |
| 07:52 | <laga> | that can take a while. i wish there was svn-bisect |
| 07:53 | <gbee> | laga: you could look at the commits and see if anything stands out, but I couldn't see anything when I looked just now |
| 07:53 | <gbee> | I'd do a binary search if I had the time and I still might if I have to |
| 07:54 | <laga> | no worries, i'll do it |
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| 11:18 | <gbee> | Chutt: what was it about #4756 that looked iffy? I've noticed that the compat code in mythmainwindow::ExitToMainMenu() sends an escape key event under certain circumstances, it looks like popscreen sends a ExitToMainMenuEvent() event which sends the escape key event triggering a second popscreen after top has been deleted |
| 11:19 | <stuarta> | btw. #4606 seems to be fixed AFAICS |
| 11:20 | <gbee> | stuarta: with the patch Paul attached? |
| 11:20 | <stuarta> | i just tested with latest 0.21-fixes |
| 11:20 | <stuarta> | no special patches |
| 11:21 | <gbee> | Chutt: err, ignore the 'compat' in what I said above, both the old and new code sends an escape event |
| 11:21 | <stuarta> | however uk dvb radio stations aren't truly audio only |
| 11:22 | <gbee> | I'm puzzled why popscreen would send the exittomainmenu event, there is a circular logic and race condition |
| 11:22 | <gbee> | stuarta: do you have ITV disabled? |
| 11:22 | <stuarta> | yup |
| 11:24 | <stuarta> | hmm, he attached the patch after i tested it :-/ |
| 11:24 | <gbee> | yeah, progress bar issue seems to be fixed, the patch attempts to solve the stuttering from the description but I could never reproduce that anyway |
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| 11:39 | <GreyFoxx> | odd, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4859 . The sample the guy put up plays perfectly fine for me |
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| 11:41 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: thanks for the reminder, I left that downloading in the background but then forgot about it |
| 11:43 | <gbee> | it's not exactly smooth, but it plays here |
| 11:44 | <gbee> | lots of "NVP: Video is 3.25139 frames behind audio (too slow), dropping frame to catch up." |
| 11:44 | <GreyFoxx> | I didn't have any of that (desktop at work is kinda beefy), and so far it plays just fine. |
| 11:44 | <gbee> | to be fair though, this isn't the fastest machine |
| 11:45 | <gbee> | I can get away with 1080i mpeg2 on this machine, but I've probably altered the playback settings since I last tried it |
| 11:46 | <GreyFoxx> | only HD content which makes mine get upset at home so far is the bbc.hd.ts test file :) |
| 11:47 | <gbee> | oh and for some reason deint was enabled on HD content which is almost certain to overstretch this CPU |
| 11:48 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: I can play that ............ after transcoding it from h.264 to mp4 part 10 (or whatever that damn codec is, can never remember which is which) |
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| 12:03 | <sphery> | GreyFoxx / gbee : re: #4859 , it's probably http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/318588?search_string=underwater%20audio;#318588 . A sufficiently powerful processor can adjust for the issue. Mark posted a patch (and I've been soliciting testers on -users) at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/320411#320411 . |
| 12:04 | <sphery> | See, also, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4764 (#4859 may be a dup) |
| 12:05 | <Deek> | btw, why #mythtv and -users, instead of #mythtv and -dev? |
| 12:06 | <stuarta> | don't ask |
| 12:06 | <Deek> | heh |
| 12:06 | <Deek> | sounds like a long story |
| 12:06 | <stuarta> | the bitbucket containing the answer has rotted through due to overuse |
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| 12:10 | <gbee> | Deek: devs were here first (well duh) :) |
| 12:12 | <gbee> | everyone else has it the wrong way around |
| 12:13 | <Deek> | Same with #quakeforge, but when it got too crowded we moved the dev channel. :) |
| 12:15 | <gbee> | I think it helps users from developing an overblown sense of self importance if they are consigned to the sub channel :p |
| 12:16 | <Deek> | (and we didn't tell anyone the new channel name :) ) |
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| 12:36 | <gbee> | little baffled by the compile errors that this patch is giving: http://pastebin.ca/927938 |
| 12:43 | <sphery> | What's on 4416/4421? They're about 200 lines above your patch lines, it seems... |
| 12:43 | <sphery> | (i.e. no other changes?) |
| 12:54 | <danielk22> | Chutt, you here? I can't reproduce #4567 ... |
| 12:54 | <gbee> | no other changes, including the util-x11 header seems to trigger the problem, the lines in question are both "event = new QKeyEvent(QEvent::KeyPress, Qt::Key_LaunchMedia," |
| 12:54 | <GreyFoxx> | danielk22: really? I can see it with two videos I've got here |
| 12:55 | <danielk22> | what video output method are you using? |
| 12:55 | <GreyFoxx> | XV |
| 12:55 | <GreyFoxx> | haven't tried them with opengl |
| 12:55 | <danielk22> | don't see it here with the sample... what are the display pixel dimensions? |
| 12:58 | <GreyFoxx> | I've seen it at 720x480 and 1368x768 |
| 12:58 | <GreyFoxx> | and 848x480 |
| 12:58 | <danielk22> | hmm, maybe it's driver related? What driver are you using? |
| 12:59 | <danielk22> | nvidia? version? |
| 12:59 | <GreyFoxx> | All of them are using the latest NVidia driver, 2 are fx5200's and 1 is a gt6600 or some such. I've seen it previously with a gf4mx440 and the latest legacy version of that |
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| 13:00 | <GreyFoxx> | latest as of 2 weeks ago at least |
| 13:02 | <danielk22> | k, I'll try upgrading my nvidia driver... |
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| 13:02 | <GreyFoxx> | I'm downloading the test.avi now to try it here at the office |
| 13:03 | <GreyFoxx> | I see it here as well |
| 13:04 | <GreyFoxx> | dual monitors, 1 nvidia (latest driver) the other is an ati card of some sort using the X provided driver |
| 13:05 | <danielk22> | I'm not seeing it, I'm using 96.43.01 |
| 13:05 | <danielk22> | w/GeForce 6200 |
| 13:06 | <sphery> | gbee: Sorry. Can't help. I think you'll need a namespace expert (like Anduin) for this one... :) Good luck. |
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| 13:09 | <GreyFoxx> | danielk22: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/moo1.jpg |
| 13:09 | <GreyFoxx> | moo2.jpg and moo3.jpg as well |
| 13:10 | <GreyFoxx> | that's how it appears on all the machines, drivers and resolutions I've tried so far |
| 13:10 | <GreyFoxx> | those there are using opengl for rendering |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | danielk22, that one's because the video res is 360, but it's trying to display the 368 |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | so the other 8 lines are garbage |
| 13:16 | <danielk22> | yeah, I just wish I could reproduce it... |
| 13:16 | <danielk22> | so I'll know when it is fixed.. |
| 13:16 | <sphery> | danielk22: I'm doing up a patch for the preview permissions thing to make a makeFileAccessible() function in libs/libmyth/util.{h,cpp} (that currently just has a chmod call in it). |
| 13:16 | <sphery> | While cleaning up includes, I noticed a double include of <sys/types.h> and <sys/stat.h> and <unistd.h> in libs/libmythtv/previewgenerator.cpp . However, they say "for stat", but I don't see any use of *stat, and--without chmod--appear unnecessary. |
| 13:16 | <sphery> | Should I remove both of them or leave one set in (i.e. is a compile test a valid test for no longer needing includes)? |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | danielk22, no overscan stuff? |
| 13:17 | <danielk22> | don't think so, checking... |
| 13:18 | <danielk22> | heh, my bad, 5% overscan... |
| 13:18 | <danielk22> | I see it now. |
| 13:19 | <GreyFoxx> | One thing I notice with that is that if you let it play 2 seconds and jump back to the start the aspect changes |
| 13:20 | <GreyFoxx> | Or if you let it play it gets to aspot where it pauses for a set while we recall SetvideoParams |
| 13:20 | <danielk22> | gf: yeah, noticed that too, different problem... |
| 13:20 | <danielk22> | it looks like the aspect ratio isn't set correctly initially, but gets fixed after a seek |
| 13:20 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah |
| 13:21 | <GreyFoxx> | we originally calculat 2.0 (720/360) but later after a seek, or by h264preprocesspkt itself determins 2.3 |
| 13:24 | <danielk22> | so why doesn't this get pushed up to videoout as soon as h264preprocesspkt first determines the aspect ratio? |
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| 13:32 | <GreyFoxx> | seems to me where I first looked at it context->sample_aspect_ratio wasn't being set at the start of the file |
| 13:33 | <GreyFoxx> | but later it is |
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| 13:34 | <GreyFoxx> | so so when InitVideoCodec checks it's not set and uses the base width/height |
| 13:37 | <danielk22> | GreyFoxx: Can you create a 0.22 ticket for this explaining all you've discovered so far? |
| 13:39 | <GreyFoxx> | yup |
| 13:42 | <danielk22> | thx |
| 13:50 | <Anduin> | gbee: util-x11.h brings in Xlib.h which brings in X.h which defines KeyPress as 2 making the code after the pre-processor read QEvent::2, ick. |
| 13:51 | <gbee> | eww |
| 13:51 | <gbee> | well thanks for tracking that down :) |
| 13:51 | <Anduin> | You can #undef it |
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| 13:52 | <Anduin> | gbee: I just modified the Makefile, made the .cpp.o rule -E |
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| 13:53 | <gbee> | Anduin: heh, didn't think of that |
| 13:54 | <Anduin> | (same with KeyRelease) |
| 13:54 | <stuarta> | perhaps we should change our define |
| 13:55 | <laga> | hum |
| 13:55 | <Anduin> | It is a Qt one |
| 13:56 | <Anduin> | (enum) |
| 13:56 | <stuarta> | doh |
| 13:56 | <laga> | i got similar errors when i tried to add the Xtest extension to mythbrowser (for proper clickiness for the flash plugin) |
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| 13:59 | <Anduin> | danielk22: You still see usr in the python bindings dir? (That should have been fixed with the separate build/install fix) |
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| 13:59 | <janneg> | danielk22: the bindings/python/usr is an artefact from an error install rule. removing it from the ignore property isn't worth the commit though |
| 14:00 | <sphery> | Anduin: BTW, I wasn't volunteering you to figure it out--just saying that you seem to be the one who always figures out these obscure things. Hope that was as easy for you to figure out as you made it seem. |
| 14:00 | <gbee> | I've undef(ined) it for now, considering that we don't use the non-video parts of X directly I'll probably stick the undefines in util-x11.h unless there are any objections? |
| 14:02 | <Anduin> | sphery: It was, no worries. |
| 14:04 | <danielk22> | janne,anduin: it was probably a leftover, but not worth the commit to revert.. |
| 14:06 | <Anduin> | Yeah, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't still broken somehow. |
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| 14:11 | <gbee> | looks like I was wrong in lumping #4820 in together with the mythevent related segfaults |
| 14:13 | <gbee> | though re-reading the comments it certainly looks like the same issue |
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| 14:15 | <sphery> | I've got to learn how to write a shorter ticket summary... |
| 14:16 | <stuarta> | heh |
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| 14:33 | <Gammelmark> | hello. Sorry if this is is stupid question but I am a beginner to this. What is the easiest way to load a jpg/png from file and into an "image" element? I can of course use the "filename" properly in the UI XML, but I need dynamic loading |
| 14:34 | <MrGandalf> | please read the topic |
| 14:35 | <MrGandalf> | well, that may be considered a dev question.. |
| 14:35 | <stuarta> | dev of what is a completely different question |
| 14:36 | <Gammelmark> | a mythtv plugin |
| 14:36 | <Gammelmark> | unofficial |
| 14:36 | <MrGandalf> | I would have guessed theme. |
| 14:36 | <gbee> | libmyth or libmythui? |
| 14:37 | <Gammelmark> | sorry for not being specific. i have the GUI defined in a -ui.xml file, but i need to replace an image in the gui from code, with a picture that is downloaded |
| 14:37 | <Gammelmark> | gbee, good question |
| 14:37 | <gbee> | UIImageType::SetImage(filename) then UIImageType::LoadImage() |
| 14:37 | <gbee> | for libmyth |
| 14:38 | <gbee> | see libmyth/uitypes.h |
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| 14:38 | <Gammelmark> | thanks, sounds just like what i need |
| 14:38 | <gbee> | is just one possibility |
| 14:39 | * | stuarta does a little jig for freesat |
| 14:40 | <gbee> | better one might be to use gContext->LoadScalePixmap(filename); then assign the resulting QPixmap to UIImageType with SetImage(QPixmap); |
| 14:40 | <gbee> | process for MythUIImageType is pretty similar, take a look at libmythui/mythuiimage.h |
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| 14:42 | <Gammelmark> | libmyth vs libmythui... which is preferred and why? (i didn't know there were more than one) |
| 14:42 | <Cardoe> | libmythui for new stuff |
| 14:42 | <gbee> | Gammelmark: libmyth is the old code, probably won't exist after 0.22, libmythui is the replacement |
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| 14:43 | <Gammelmark> | i see |
| 14:44 | <gbee> | libmythui is cleaner, more capable code which has the potential to produce a much better UI eventually (early days) |
| 14:46 | <Gammelmark> | I can't find much about it on the wiki. is there an overview page somewhere? |
| 14:51 | <gbee> | Gammelmark: only this - http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/MythUIThemeFormat |
| 14:53 | <Gammelmark> | gbee, ok thanks |
| 14:55 | <sphery> | Gammelmark: gbee converted a couple of plugins to use libmythui (MythAppearance--which is no longer a plugin--and MythControls). They may have some good examples (see [15594] , [15595] , and [15597] ). |
| 14:55 | <sphery> | Gammelmark: Also, might be some info at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Plugins:HelloMyth and/or http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/311234#311234 |
| 14:55 | <gbee> | depends who you ask, Chutt was unimpressed with my efforts :p |
| 14:56 | <sphery> | I think Chutt was just saying that mythui holds much more promise than is apparent from the initial conversion. :) |
| 14:57 | <gbee> | which I would agree with :) |
| 14:58 | <Gammelmark> | thanks sphery. I guess I am on the right track then, since my (so far very limited and very static) gui uses MythHello is its base :) |
| 15:00 | <janneg> | stuarta: I might have fixed #2342 |
| 15:05 | <sphery> | Gammelmark: Actually, TTBOMK, MythHello (and mythtutorial2) have not yet been updated to use libmythui. Looking at the page history, that definitely seems to be the case. |
| 15:05 | <gbee> | they haven't |
| 15:05 | <sphery> | So, the "some" information wasn't intended to mean a lot. |
| 15:07 | <gbee> | struggling to get my head around this scaling calculation, think I'll have to resort to trial and error |
| 15:07 | <Gammelmark> | bummer... |
| 15:08 | <gbee> | Gammelmark: much of the info on the wiki page is relevant, it's just the UI bits which are changing |
| 15:09 | <sphery> | Gammelmark: IIRC, someone on the list was talking about updating those two example plugins to use libmythui. See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/312595#312595 (and follow to page 2). |
| 15:10 | <sphery> | He's converted mythtutorial2, but he's still running 0.20-fixes, so he hasn't "released" it. |
| 15:11 | <sphery> | There's a link on page 2 to the code (and--if you're running 0.21-fixes or trunk--you can work with him to get it ready for "release"/wiki-fication) |
| 15:12 | <Gammelmark> | thanks :) |
| 15:13 | <sphery> | thank you (if you do work with him to get it ready to make things easier for others) :) |
| 15:18 | <Gammelmark> | :) lets see... first step is to understand it myself ;) |
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| 15:49 | <gbee> | anyone using metallurgy in the UK with a widescreen TV? |
| 15:53 | <gbee> | or anyone like equations? Don't think this is right - http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/4704/preview_pixelaspect.diff |
| 15:53 | <Cardoe> | sphery: btw. I tested platinum.. and it still spans the checkboxes off the edge of my screen |
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| 16:00 | <sphery> | Cardoe: Yeah. As I was writing up the patch for the StyleSetting, I found that QT is supposed to ignore any call to setStyle() that includes an invalid style name, so even though we were calling it with invalid data, it should have no effect. |
| 16:01 | <sphery> | Cardoe: Any change you could post a (camera) picture of the screen? |
| 16:03 | <Cardoe> | Nigel's commits for the CPU detection code are wrong |
| 16:04 | <Cardoe> | Intel Xeon's are not -march=k8 |
| 16:04 | <Cardoe> | they're -march=nocona |
| 16:04 | <Cardoe> | you'll actually get segfaults if you build with k8 in a few edge cases due to 2 CPU instructions taking slightly different arguments |
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| 16:09 | <Cardoe> | smartest thing would be to check if you've got gcc 4.2 and just use march=native |
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| 16:30 | <gbee> | just accidently did rm -rf /etc/ |
| 16:31 | <gbee> | to be fair, it forces me to reinstall and I've been meaning to do that for weeks because of a couple of weird config related problems that have been causing me problems |
| 16:31 | <laga> | no backup? :( |
| 16:32 | <akv> | gbee: maybe you did it on purpose? ;) |
| 16:34 | <gbee> | laga: no backup and that's probably for the best anyway as I'm pretty sure that /etc/ was heavily screwed up anyway - dm init script stopped running on startup for no explicable reason and the wireless network config was corrupted in some strange way (had to keep deleting and recreating it before wireless would work) |
| 16:35 | <Chutt> | neat |
| 16:35 | <Chutt> | erik hovland set the right milestone this time |
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| 16:35 | <gbee> | Chutt: yeah, I nudged him in the right direction |
| 16:37 | <Chutt> | ah, thanks |
| 16:37 | <gbee> | all these problems are probably down to the fact that I've not done a clean install since Mandriva 2005 and I've upgraded to 2006, 2007 and 2008 by package upgrades alone |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | 36 bugs? |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | nice. |
| 16:38 | <gbee> | after a while the old configs no longer work properly with the latest packages and cruft builds up, so I'm overdue for a spring clean |
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| 16:38 | <Chutt> | 32 not counting the infoneeded |
| 16:45 | <Cardoe> | gbee: depends on your distro it might be recoverable. |
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| 16:49 | <gbee> | Cardoe: yeah it almost certainly is, Smart and probably drakrpm will do package repairs, the install CD probably offers a repair option too |
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| 16:50 | <gbee> | difficult to run Smart/drakrpm at the moment because they depended on stuff in /etc/, so I'm grabbing the latest ISO |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | just don't reboot |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | who needs /etc/ |
| 16:50 | <gbee> | heh |
| 16:51 | <janneg> | gbee: #4711 is a alsa problem |
| 16:52 | <gbee> | janneg: ok |
| 16:52 | <janneg> | not alsa, but the bug in our alsa output code |
| 16:59 | <danielk22> | buffer size problem? |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | janneg, i'd use the patch from mark on the -dev list to fix, not the one in 4764 |
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| 17:05 | <Chutt> | heh, nevermind, you just added that to the ticket :p |
| 17:08 | <janneg> | danielk22: yes, the values suggested by mark spieth fixes it |
| 17:09 | <danielk22> | good.. |
| 17:12 | <danielk22> | Chutt: I've attached a patch to #4567, the for the 8 lines of chaff on 360 pixel high video, it appears to fix the problem, but I haven't exhaustively tested it yet. |
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| 17:14 | <Cardoe> | Chutt: well you need little things like /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:14 | <janneg> | Chutt: the commit hook has not updated trac for r16390-16392 |
| 17:19 | <janneg> | gbee: should #3722 (new mythweather tasks) moved to 0.22? |
| 17:20 | <gbee> | janneg: no, Chutt wants the setup UI improved for 0.21 so I was going to take a look at that tomorrow/thursday |
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| 17:21 | <gbee> | Cardoe: or /etc/hosts, /etc/passwd, /etc/group (all of which I've had to recreate by hand just now) |
| 17:21 | <Cardoe> | gbee: might want to create /etc/shadow as well |
| 17:21 | <Cardoe> | and run passwd |
| 17:22 | <gbee> | yeah, just done that as well |
| 17:22 | <gbee> | well I would if passwd would stop complaining about pam |
| 17:24 | <Cardoe> | need /etc/pam.d |
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| 17:26 | <gbee> | yep |
| 17:27 | <gbee> | for the first time in at least six years I've had a reason to pull my Complete Reference Guide for Linux off the shelf |
| 17:28 | <gbee> | it's a little outdated, but helpfully lists all the filenames :) |
| 17:30 | <gbee> | as well it should, weighs a tonne, has 1200 pages and cost me $60 at the time |
| 17:30 | <gbee> | probably the least used reference book I've ever bought |
| 17:33 | <Cardoe> | gbee: what distro? |
| 17:34 | <Chutt> | danielk22, i don't think that's correct |
| 17:34 | <Chutt> | since won't that allocate a non-16 line alined buffer? |
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| 17:35 | <gbee> | Cardoe: Mandriva |
| 17:35 | <Cardoe> | gbee: many distros use different /etc/pam.d setups |
| 17:36 | <Cardoe> | simply because Linux-PAM was abandoned for so long |
| 17:36 | <Cardoe> | and became Red Hat-ware |
| 17:36 | <gbee> | just manually restored enough to run "smart fix" which should reinstall packages with missing files (got tired of waiting for the DVD Iso to download) |
| 17:36 | <Cardoe> | well that's good |
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| 17:51 | <danielk22> | Chutt: all the allocation routines use video_dim which is forced to 16 pixel alignment in Init() and InputChanged() |
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| 18:03 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | then why are we aligning it in avformatdecoder.c still? =) |
| 18:04 | <danielk22> | uh, don't know :) lemme see if it is still needed for anything. |
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| 18:04 | <Chutt> | i didn't realize there was a second alignment |
| 18:04 | <danielk22> | the second alignment is new to the patch. |
| 18:05 | <danielk22> | ideally the alignment should be done by ffmpeg.. but in practice we don't need to. |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | the alignment should really only apply to the allocated buffer size |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | and the original w/h used for display |
| 18:06 | <danielk22> | yep |
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| 18:08 | <danielk22> | I didn't want to change video_dim though because I don't want to cause problems for other videooutput methods, but video_disp_dim has the actual dimensions for renderers that want to be pixel exact. |
| 18:12 | <danielk22> | What is the general opinion on the quality of greedy vs. yadif for the new "High Quality" profile? |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | i'm liking yadif more |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | but it uses more cpu, of course |
| 18:14 | <Chutt> | looks a little better on ye olde projector |
| 18:14 | <danielk22> | k, I'm thinking of using that for SD material and bob+linear for HD material.. with OSD fade turned on and 2 cpu decoding for both.. |
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| 18:14 | <Chutt> | kerneldeint for HD |
| 18:14 | <danielk22> | I'm not sure on the bob, some people have problems with it |
| 18:15 | <Chutt> | i'd leave off bob, can be a bit troublesome |
| 18:15 | <danielk22> | kerneldeint ? That seems to ghost too much for me... |
| 18:16 | <danielk22> | For 1080i, I don't want to risk the deinterlacer to making the image any worse. |
| 18:17 | <Chutt> | hum |
| 18:17 | * | laga would love to have that patch to enable deinterlacing for frame doubling interlacers on interlaced displays. |
| 18:17 | <Chutt> | kernel looks better than linear, for me |
| 18:17 | <laga> | that's the only way to get nice output on my TV set |
| 18:17 | <Chutt> | but, linear's fine for the default |
| 18:18 | <Chutt> | linear seems a little blurry |
| 18:18 | <Chutt> | but, i mean, i do have an 80" screen |
| 18:18 | <danielk22> | Let me do some more testing with kernel, before the yadif/greedy I used to use it for SD material.. |
| 18:18 | <Chutt> | naw, linear's fine |
| 18:19 | <Chutt> | thanks for making better defaults =) |
| 18:20 | <danielk22> | heh, good -- cuz I still see the kernel deint artifacts :) |
| 18:20 | <Chutt> | even for HD material? |
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| 18:21 | <laga> | danielk22: are you positive that http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2903 can't go in ever? |
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| 18:21 | <danielk22> | yeah, it doesn't seem to catch up to fast movements until a frame too late.. |
| 18:24 | <danielk22> | laga: This really needs to be fixed in the driver or driver setup. |
| 18:24 | <sphery> | danielk22: Speaking of bob, a while back I noticed that for LiveTV (only) we don't reject bob if the refresh rate is too low ( http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/305874#305874 ). I had planned to have made time to figure it out and make a patch, but haven't gotten around to it. |
| 18:24 | <Chutt> | danielk22, are you using the 2x variant for sd? |
| 18:25 | <sphery> | The obvious "workaround" is to not put a deint method your display can't use into your playback profile, but I have a feeling if bob's in the defaults, a lot of users will think that Myth doesn't work. |
| 18:25 | <danielk22> | of yadif? yes |
| 18:25 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 18:25 | <danielk22> | with 1x yadif as fallback |
| 18:26 | <Chutt> | right |
| 18:26 | <danielk22> | yadif doesn't cause that OSD shimmer that Bob does when V-Sync fails so 2x is fine. |
| 18:26 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 18:26 | <danielk22> | "fine"->"safe" |
| 18:27 | <danielk22> | heh, "default safe" |
| 18:27 | <laga> | danielk22: it's been a problem for ages. even with 720x576 modelines, i get interlacing artefacts because the fields go out of sync. i'm not the on ly one who's affected or i'd just apply that patch locally :/ |
| 18:28 | <danielk22> | laga: I know, I've been talking with Mark B + Stanley about making OpenGL V-Sync a little smarter so that Xorg.conf problems don't ever cause reversed fields. |
| 18:29 | <Chutt> | how? |
| 18:29 | <laga> | does opengl vsync work on devices other than nvidia? |
| 18:30 | <danielk22> | It increments an int on each sync.. odd and even # are always in sync with the odd & even fields. |
| 18:30 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 18:31 | <danielk22> | first I want to make it not crash though :) |
| 18:32 | <Chutt> | oh - ever notice avsync issues when opengl vsync was enabled? |
| 18:32 | <danielk22> | right now it's the only glX call not in our X11 lock (other than Qt stuff).. putting it in the lock kills performance, so we need to do a wait outside the lock and then do the actual v-sync within the lock, knowing it won't be in there long. |
| 18:32 | <Chutt> | i think it might just be the crappy motherboard gpu |
| 18:33 | <danielk22> | yes. :( With the 7150 that came on my MB. |
| 18:33 | <Chutt> | doesn't really handle 1080p in the menus |
| 18:33 | <Chutt> | hey, same 7150pv |
| 18:33 | <danielk22> | doesn't happen with another mb with 8xxx something or other... |
| 18:34 | <Chutt> | the menu fade transition also sucks at 1080p |
| 18:34 | <danielk22> | nor with the 6150 on another mb |
| 18:34 | <danielk22> | chutt: that's done in SW.. |
| 18:34 | <Chutt> | not in opengl |
| 18:35 | <danielk22> | oh, opengl render.. :) |
| 18:35 | <Chutt> | right |
| 18:35 | <danielk22> | That could probably be made more efficient.. but it's already 3x more efficient than the first draft. |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | hum |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | passive 8600gt |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | no hdmi |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 18:39 | <danielk22> | chutt: You can also use SW composite with the OpenGL render, if you have CPU cycles to spare. |
| 18:39 | <Chutt> | rather not |
| 18:40 | <Chutt> | gotta have hardware accel :p |
| 18:40 | <Chutt> | especially at 1080p |
| 18:40 | <Chutt> | ooh, a passive 8500gt with hdmi on board |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | I propose the following question to you: Would you rather have your |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | mythbox controlled by a lirc configured Microsoft Media Center remote or |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | Tivo remote; or do you want to move beyond lirc and have your mythbox |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | controlled by a mythMOTE? |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | hahaha |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | this guy just won't take no for an answer |
| 18:41 | <danielk22> | hehe |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | he's definitely infringing |
| 18:42 | <Chutt> | the logo and names are clear derivatives |
| 18:42 | <GreyFoxx> | he proposing selling myth logo'd remotes ? |
| 18:42 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 18:42 | <GreyFoxx> | hehe |
| 18:42 | <Chutt> | this will be the third time i've told him to come up with a different name/logo |
| 18:43 | <danielk22> | More importantly he's trading of the MythTV name, which makes it trademark infringement. |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | they're still 'several months away from going into limited production' |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | and 'have invested $87 (give or take $11) in the mythMOTE so far' |
| 18:44 | <danielk22> | hehehe |
| 18:44 | <xris> | wow, a whole $76-98 |
| 18:44 | <hads> | heh |
| 18:45 | <Chutt> | my answer to the above question is 'a harmony remote', of course =) |
| 18:45 | <Chutt> | who wants multiple remotes cluttering up the place? |
| 18:45 | <GreyFoxx> | xris: that code for mkv/mp4 etc went in yesterday if you wanna try it out |
| 18:45 | <xris> | GreyFoxx: thanks. I'll recompile now and test tonight. |
| 18:45 | <hads> | Oo I must try that out. |
| 18:59 | <xris> | hmm.. I wonder what patch I'm compiling with now... |
| 18:59 | <xris> | oh, probably the screenshots patch |
| 18:59 | <xris> | yup |
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| 19:56 | <MrGandalf> | danielk22: around? |
| 20:17 | <gbee> | btw, I couldn't reproduce the 100% cpu bug either, so it can probably be closed |
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| --- | Log | closed Tue Mar 04 21:06:34 2008 |
| --- | Log | opened Tue Mar 04 21:06:38 2008 |
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| 21:08 | <jumpkic1> | anyone here know how to troubleshoot a problem with "audio stream changed" messages in mythfrontend (HD5000 OTA HD tuner, amd64)? |
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| 21:43 | <danielk22> | MrGandalf: are you still looking for me? |
| 21:43 | <MrGandalf> | yeah, sec |
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| 21:45 | <MrGandalf> | danielk22: one small issue I've been seeing.. dunno if you wanted me to open a ticket. When going from/to sistandard dvb/mpeg2 (or the other way around), the sistandard doesn't get updated in the tuning. |
| 21:45 | <MrGandalf> | ie: tuning a sistandard of dvb then mpeg2 the mpeg2 transports attempts to be tuned as dvb. |
| 21:46 | <danielk22> | this is in livetv or regular recordings too? |
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| 21:47 | <danielk22> | basically it is not reading sistandard from the DB on channel changes? Or is it not being passed to the channel or tvrec class? or dunno? |
| 21:47 | <danielk22> | anyway it sounds like a bug that needs a ticket, just don't know how serious the problem is. |
| 21:47 | <MrGandalv> | not sure yet.. haven't really investigated. |
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| 21:48 | <MrGandalv> | if you exit livetv and re-enter, you can tune the different sistandard fine |
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| 21:48 | <MrGandalv> | I could probably figure out what's going on, just didn't know if it was big enough to get it in before release |
| 21:49 | <danielk22> | it prevents channel changes in livetv when there are channels with multiple sistandards on in the channel lineup? |
| 21:50 | <MrGandalv> | when going from one transport to another with different sistandard |
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| 21:50 | <MrGandalv> | on same card (I'm guessing) |
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| 21:51 | <MrGandalv> | but only on consecutive tunes in LiveTV, from what I've seen |
| 21:51 | <danielk22> | ok, this sounds relatively serious. Can you generate a -v record,channel,siparser log from the backend with as simple an example as you can? |
| 21:52 | <MrGandalv> | ie: if you tune do a different card (ivtv for instance) then to the other sistandard, it tunes properly. |
| 21:52 | <MrGandalv> | sure |
| 21:52 | <danielk22> | still you don't want to get stuck just changing channels... |
| 21:52 | <MrGandalv> | it's been a bug for a long time.. nobody else has reported it :) |
| 21:53 | <MrGandalv> | I would consider it very minor in that case |
| 21:53 | <danielk22> | heh, I think most people have channel lists with just one type of channel in them... |
| 21:53 | <MrGandalv> | I'm unique on many levels. :) |
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| 21:53 | <danielk22> | well it's not a blocker, but I would like to fix it before the release if possible. |
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| 21:54 | <MrGandalv> | first thing tomorrow morning then |
| 21:54 | <danielk22> | k |
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| 21:54 | <MrGandalv> | yay, now I can be my true self.. |
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| 22:38 | <Chutt> | anyone able to repro #4859? |
| 22:41 | * | Captain_Murdoch is compiling latest -fixes branch now so he started a download of that sample. |
| 22:54 | <GreyFoxx> | \Chutt: That sample plays fine for me |
| 22:54 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I get fairly consistent "waiting for prebuffer" and "video behind audio" messages and cpu is maxed out on my P4-2.6Ghz. mplaye plays the same file at under 50% cpu utilization. that's with xv output method and no deinterlace. changed settings to use libmpeg2 also and similar results. |
| 23:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | turn back on xvmc and plays with about 50% cpu with no prebuffer and only a couple "video bhind audio" at the beginning |
| 23:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | heh.. -users post "I got the (GPL-ed part of the) source code for the SageTV HD Extender, would someone step up to own the project to get a full mythfrontend running on it?" |
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