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| 00:51 | <clever> | xris: you there? |
| 00:51 | <xris> | ? |
| 00:51 | <clever> | ive been having some mild problems with the upcoming recordings list |
| 00:52 | <clever> | it was taking way too long to reload after hitting dontrecord |
| 00:52 | <clever> | so i modified that button to be ajax based |
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| 00:53 | <clever> | it isnt perfect(only hides that 1 show from the list) but it is working |
| 00:53 | <Doc> | hellow |
| 00:54 | <xris> | clever: the problem with that is that when you change recording info, you need to refresh the page because the backend needs to rerun the scheduler query. |
| 00:54 | <xris> | on a complex system, the scheduler query can take 30-40 seconds. |
| 00:54 | <xris> | which I don't even account for. |
| 00:54 | <clever> | the problem is that im often wanting to cancle 30 recordings in a row |
| 00:55 | <clever> | before i need to see how it affects the whole scheduling layout |
| 00:55 | <clever> | and with the patch im able to cancle(and they disapear localy) without having to wait 30 seconds between each |
| 00:56 | <clever> | http://clever.mine.nu:81/dontrecord.diff |
| 00:56 | <xris> | I just middle-click them. :) |
| 00:56 | <clever> | i was doing that at first |
| 00:56 | <clever> | but then im left with 30 tags to close |
| 00:56 | <clever> | and crapload of cpu to process the 3mb html pages |
| 00:56 | <clever> | x30 to its 90mb of html to render |
| 00:56 | <xris> | I think to do this properly, we'd need a way to ask the backend about the last time that the scheduler query ran... |
| 00:57 | <clever> | the ajax req cuts it down to a 15 byte reply |
| 00:57 | <clever> | the best method i can think of is to find ONLY the changes to the schedule |
| 00:57 | <xris> | then could ajax the changes and only reload the page when the refresh is newer than the last ajax request |
| 00:57 | <clever> | and then pass those thru ajax to update the client |
| 00:57 | <clever> | also half the problem |
| 00:57 | <clever> | the description is loading for all programs |
| 00:58 | <clever> | which inflates the page size a good deal |
| 00:58 | <xris> | yeah, kormoc didn't get a chance to axaxify that page before .21 |
| 00:58 | <clever> | the tv listings has fixed that by loading them thru ajax |
| 00:58 | <clever> | and i used that code as an example |
| 00:59 | <xris> | yeah. a lot of those pages just need to be re-thought to take advantage of both ajax and better page layouts. |
| 00:59 | <clever> | you could probly use it in a limited case such as ONLY conflicts being shown |
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| 00:59 | <clever> | if your only showing conflicts nothing will realy change much when you dontrecord 1 entry |
| 00:59 | <xris> | yeah |
| 01:00 | <clever> | except for that 1 entry disapearing |
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| 01:00 | <clever> | with a small change to the patch if can do that only for that 1 case |
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| 01:00 | <xris> | it's easy/fast enough to replace the contents of the table via DOM, though.. can look at the speed that the list page changes when you click next/previous chunk, or switch days. |
| 01:00 | <xris> | that refreshes without a page reload now. |
| 01:00 | <clever> | but now that i think of it |
| 01:00 | <clever> | if you cancle a conflict in any mode |
| 01:00 | <clever> | nothing else would change |
| 01:01 | <clever> | and the code only changes the conflict button |
| 01:01 | <clever> | and adds one to the 'willrecord' status which is simple to remove |
| 01:02 | <xris> | let me check tomorrow/later to see if one of the backend devs can add a "last scheduler update" query command.. I think with that, dynamic re-rendering of that page (which should also help with hide/show of types), and ajax descriptions, we should be able to speed things up pretty significantly |
| 01:02 | <clever> | :) |
| 01:02 | <xris> | I'm still supposed to be cleaning the house at the moment. |
| 01:02 | <clever> | if you fetched the entire table thru ajax |
| 01:02 | <clever> | you could cache the large non changing bits of data localy too |
| 01:02 | <xris> | wife has this crazy notion that the house should be clean when people come over for my birthday party next week |
| 01:02 | <clever> | so even a full reload of the list would be faster |
| 01:03 | <xris> | yeah. |
| 01:03 | <xris> | like I said, look at the refresh speed of the main list pages. |
| 01:03 | <clever> | channel listings? |
| 01:03 | <xris> | yeah |
| 01:03 | <xris> | /tv/list/ |
| 01:03 | <clever> | . |
| 01:03 | <clever> | . |
| 01:04 | <clever> | took 15 seconds for the page to load the 1st time |
| 01:04 | <clever> | never noticed the button to move thru time is also ajax now |
| 01:04 | <xris> | takes about 1.5 seconds for me for the ajax part |
| 01:04 | <clever> | . |
| 01:04 | <clever> | . |
| 01:05 | <clever> | about 7 seconds to shift over im time |
| 01:05 | <clever> | about half the time |
| 01:05 | <clever> | but my mythweb/mysql are sharing a 400mhz cpu |
| 01:05 | <xris> | yeah, that'd be bad |
| 01:05 | <clever> | yet the 400mhz P2 with phpmyadmin is blazing fast compared to the 1.6ghz P4 |
| 01:05 | <xris> | I'm about 7.5 seconds to render the page, and 1.5 seconds (900ms for ajax) to switch times |
| 01:06 | <clever> | both with the apache/php/mysql 'local' |
| 01:06 | <xris> | but my mythbox is a q6600 |
| 01:06 | <clever> | id have to load firebug to get the exact page load times |
| 01:06 | <clever> | but ajax is damn powerfull |
| 01:06 | <clever> | ive been testing it for a few things on a forum im on |
| 01:07 | <clever> | you can post ANY html in the forum |
| 01:07 | <clever> | it was relatively trivial to make js which automaticaly messaged me when you view a post |
| 01:07 | <clever> | or to automaticaly post spam when you view the spam |
| 01:07 | <xris> | ajax not so much.. ajaj is the wave of the future. (async javascript + json) |
| 01:08 | <clever> | im not even using json for the dontrecord patch |
| 01:08 | <clever> | the php just echo's out the id for a tr when its done |
| 01:08 | <xris> | yeah, sometimes you don't need much at all |
| 01:08 | <clever> | and it just document.getElementById(responce.responceText).hide's it |
| 01:08 | <clever> | crude but effective |
| 01:09 | <clever> | firebug's js debuger helped me figure out what the responce arg to the ajax callback was |
| 01:09 | <clever> | which saved me from going crazy trying to read prototype.js |
| 01:10 | <clever> | 7.93 sec to load the tv listing |
| 01:10 | <clever> | 6.9 to load the next page |
| 01:10 | <clever> | 4.9 for another |
| 01:10 | <xris> | hmm, the "star" character in my mythweb is wrong |
| 01:11 | <clever> | doesnt seem to cache any |
| 01:11 | <clever> | going back to where i was still took 4.8 sec |
| 01:11 | <xris> | oh, no, it works. ff just isn't displaying it properly |
| 01:11 | <clever> | 1205125851.200 6338 192.168.1.201 TCP_MISS/200 148976 POST http://media/mythweb/tv/list - DIRECT/192.168.1.103 text/html |
| 01:11 | <clever> | 1205125878.839 6187 192.168.1.201 TCP_MISS/200 144378 POST http://media/mythweb/tv/list - DIRECT/192.168.1.103 text/html |
| 01:12 | <clever> | both missed the squid cache |
| 01:12 | <xris> | yeah, no cache.. it was just a quick hack to speed up page refreshes |
| 01:12 | <clever> | if you include the entire query in the $_GET |
| 01:12 | <clever> | you could enable caching headers |
| 01:12 | <xris> | shouldn't be missed.. should avoid. php says no-cache by default |
| 01:13 | <clever> | you could have a timestamp on every entry in the program table as to when mythfilldb touched it last |
| 01:13 | <clever> | select max(timestamp) from program where starttime < x and starttime > y; |
| 01:13 | <clever> | now you basicaly have a last-mod stamp for the page |
| 01:13 | <clever> | which could let if-modified-since: querys to work right |
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| 01:14 | <clever> | if you basicaly stamp ALL data that affects the generated page you should be able to make a last-mod stamp and improve caching |
| 01:15 | <xris> | yeah |
| 01:15 | <xris> | but I don't trust ff to not just eat memory. |
| 01:15 | <clever> | it eats it no mater what you do:P |
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| 01:20 | <Viaken> | Is it possible to set it to playback with the cubic interpolation deinterlacer? It's not one of the menu options... for the custom filters, would I put "-vf pp=ci" or just "pp=ci" or....? |
| 01:20 | <Viaken> | gak |
| 01:20 | <Viaken> | sorry |
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| 10:00 | <gbee> | heh, reading a review of a new HP Tablet, of course it runs Windows and the reviewer praises the addition of a dedicated Ctrl-Alt-Del button ;) |
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| 10:11 | <janneg> | lol |
| 10:12 | <MrGandalf> | so, the three finger solute becomes a one finger solute.. how fitting. |
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| 10:19 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah... it was suppose to be an unlikely accidental button combination |
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| 10:23 | <MrGandalf> | then why did they used it for login as well? So people wouldn't accidently login? |
| 10:24 | <GreyFoxx> | People had to use it so often with windows I figure they just wanted to make it even more common ;) |
| 10:24 | <janneg> | windows 2k, maybe earlier in win nt |
| 10:24 | <MrGandalf> | that makes sense |
| 10:24 | <GreyFoxx> | dagar: are they built from fixes or the release tarbals |
| 10:24 | <janneg> | oh, I read "when ... |
| 10:25 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: WinNT 3.5 I think was the first. |
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| 10:51 | <mattwire_> | ctrl-alt-del was a "security feature" for login - apps couldn't trap that key combination so you knew if you pressed it you were talking to the os and not some mean program that was going to steal your login details |
| 10:51 | <danielk22> | It was used for log-in because it was a key combination that no application relied on nor could any application bind to it, so a user privileged program could not pretend to be the login screen and capture passwords. The program would need Administrator access to bind ctrl-alt-del |
| 10:52 | <mattwire_> | i'm still having issues with spdif on dvd's with trunk |
| 10:52 | <mattwire_> | were there any other fixes apart from the 500ms |
| 10:52 | <mattwire_> | which haven't made it across from fixes yet? |
| 10:52 | <danielk22> | no, that was it for fixes |
| 10:53 | <mattwire_> | 1648 |
| 10:53 | <mattwire_> | i mean 16461 |
| 10:53 | <mattwire_> | that's a shame |
| 10:54 | <mattwire_> | cos i'm still getting spdif dropping in and out (mostly out) |
| 10:54 | <mattwire_> | it's fine on tv (2ch) |
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| 10:55 | <danielk22> | AC3/DTS are 2 channel to as far as MythTV is concerned.. |
| 10:59 | <gbee> | did that fix get merged to trunk? |
| 10:59 | <mattwire_> | nope |
| 11:00 | <gbee> | sorry, you already said that :) |
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| 11:03 | <mattwire_> | none of my dvd's seem to play back properly over spdif |
| 11:03 | <mattwire_> | whether they are 2ch or 6ch |
| 11:04 | <mattwire_> | any idea what would be different between tv and dvd when it's a 2ch sound track |
| 11:06 | <mattwire_> | Ah, the difference is that dvd is using ac3 passthru |
| 11:07 | <mattwire_> | if i disable that I get unbroken 2ch sound |
| 11:07 | <mattwire_> | over spdif |
| 11:07 | <mattwire_> | so looks like ac3 passthru is broken for me |
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| 11:13 | <sphery> | mattwire_: Did you set max channels to 2? |
| 11:14 | <mattwire_> | yes |
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| 11:24 | <janneg> | Chutt: expect a little more wiki traffic, big german it news site linked the release notes |
| 11:25 | <sphery> | A little... It's been basically unusable for quite some time, now. :) |
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| 11:26 | * | sphery wonders if #4909 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/321657#321657 are the issue that gbee warned users would report as a bug |
| 11:27 | <gbee> | yeah, but I'll take the high ground and won't say that I told you so ;) |
| 11:27 | <sphery> | I was trying to say it for you. :) |
| 11:28 | <janneg> | maybe start live tv should choose a random cardid |
| 11:28 | <gbee> | I know :p |
| 11:29 | <gbee> | janneg: doesn't need to be random, just shouldn't pick the card which is in use if it can be avoided |
| 11:29 | <sphery> | janneg: When you factor in what LastFreeCard is supposed to do, it's hard to decide which is the right behavior. |
| 11:29 | <gbee> | I'm probably making it easier than it sounds, but then again? |
| 11:31 | <sphery> | gbee: Your solution fits the letter of the description of LastFreeCard. Some may complain, then, though, that they have conflicts while watching LiveTV. I don't care either way, though, since I don't do LiveTV. :) |
| 11:32 | <sphery> | Though it's probably easier to teach users to exit LiveTV on conflict and "join" an already-being-recorded mux |
| 11:33 | <gbee> | browsing across tuners would probably make this a non-issue |
| 11:33 | <gbee> | iirc there is a patch in trac for that |
| 11:34 | <janneg> | gbee: it was a joke, but using a random card is easier than fixing it properly |
| 11:35 | <gbee> | fair enough :) |
| 11:37 | <gbee> | looks like you were right to warn about traffic, wiki is crawling |
| 11:37 | <Chutt> | load on the box is < 1 |
| 11:37 | <Chutt> | not swapping (anymore) |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | i think bandwidth is just being maxed out |
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| 11:59 | <Chutt> | i upped the MaxClients value in apache, seems to be a bit more responsive |
| 12:00 | <gbee> | could someone with wiki admin/sysop privs delete http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Using_mythweather-revamp_with_trunk_mythtv and http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Weather_sandbox ? Thanks |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | what's your wiki username? |
| 12:00 | <gbee> | GBee |
| 12:01 | <Chutt> | try now |
| 12:01 | <gbee> | cool, thanks |
| 12:04 | <gbee> | just clearing up old information that is no longer relevant since the release of 0.21 |
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| 13:18 | <janneg> | bah, I hate merging branches with svn |
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| 13:18 | * | janneg is updating the qt4 branch |
| 13:19 | <gbee> | yay |
| 13:19 | <mattwire_> | wouldn't it be worth merging fixes to trunk before merging to other branches? |
| 13:23 | <xris> | janneg: yeah, mass-merging is a pain. |
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| 13:23 | <janneg> | doesn't matter. a small merge is not a problem |
| 13:24 | <janneg> | grrr, svn merge is failing over the contrib/mythmail rename and adding contrib/mythmail dir |
| 13:25 | <xris> | moves/copies don't merge |
| 13:26 | <xris> | it moves/copies the file from trunk into the branch, rather than from the branch to itself |
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| 13:28 | <janneg> | that's notr the problem. it can't create the dir if there is a file of the same name |
| 13:31 | <kormoc> | Yeah |
| 13:31 | <kormoc> | I had to do that in two steps |
| 13:31 | <kormoc> | rename the file in one commit, then make the dir and move it |
| 13:32 | <kormoc> | janneg, sorry for the pain |
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| 13:33 | <janneg> | argh, and I even have to commit first |
| 13:34 | <kormoc> | Yeah... |
| 13:34 | <janneg> | kormoc: I don't blame you but subversion |
| 13:34 | <janneg> | I would like to switch to git |
| 13:37 | <Cardoe> | everyone and git... |
| 13:38 | <Cardoe> | but what I wanted to say is 0.21 has been unleashed upon Gentoo users |
| 13:38 | <kormoc> | I really like subversion overall, just certain small edge cases are handled badly |
| 13:38 | <kormoc> | Whee! |
| 13:39 | <Cardoe> | myth*-0.21_p16468 |
| 13:39 | <Cardoe> | except mythtv-0.21_p16483 |
| 13:39 | <kormoc> | Is that new enough for the dvd fix? |
| 13:40 | <Cardoe> | 16483 is the dvd fix on release-0-21-fixes |
| 13:41 | <Cardoe> | and 16468 is the 0.21 tag revision |
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| 13:49 | <Cyberai> | #tor |
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| 13:54 | <janneg> | I really dislike subversion for making grep -r cumbersomely. branches and merges aren't thought through and make them unuseble except for for easy situations |
| 13:57 | <kormoc> | Fair 'nuff |
| 13:58 | <kormoc> | I just have this in my bash profile, export GREP_OPTIONS='--exclude-dir=\*.svn\* ' |
| 13:59 | <kormoc> | and then grep works as I want |
| 13:59 | <kormoc> | but it does require grep v 2.5.3 or newer |
| 14:03 | <laga> | Captain_Murdoch: i just read that storage groups can spread out i/o load over multiple disks. does this also apply to transcoding? |
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| 14:10 | <gbee> | laga: if the files being transcoded are on different disks. Or do you mean something else? |
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| 14:11 | <laga> | gbee: a file is on disk A and gets transcoded, the transcoded file ends up on disk B |
| 14:12 | <gbee> | I don't think that is currently the case, but I could be wrong |
| 14:16 | <janneg> | laga: that's not implemented yet but planned |
| 14:16 | <laga> | thanks |
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| 14:23 | <gbee> | xris: is #4548 still relevant? |
| 14:29 | <xris> | haven't tested. |
| 14:30 | <xris> | set it as needinfo and assign to me? maybe I can find some time to test it tonight |
| 14:32 | <kormoc> | I'm surprised there's been no mythweb bugs filed. |
| 14:32 | <xris> | for .21? |
| 14:33 | <kormoc> | yeah |
| 14:34 | <xris> | someone in -users just commented about the video artwork only working with a single artwork directory |
| 14:34 | <kormoc> | Ha |
| 14:34 | <kormoc> | known issue actually |
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| 14:35 | <kormoc> | but given that's a manually done setup, I didn't consider it important enough to code for |
| 14:35 | <xris> | heh |
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| 14:39 | <xris> | kormoc: Frosty-: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STATIC, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /var/www/mythweb/classes/Database.php on line 106 |
| 14:40 | <xris> | PHP 5.2.5-3 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 02:03:40) |
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| 14:48 | <Chutt> | yay, website's running better |
| 14:49 | <Chutt> | xris, need new website so i can switch and use the thread worker |
| 14:49 | <Chutt> | need fewer apache's running :p |
| 14:49 | <xris> | heh |
| 14:50 | <xris> | need time, and program descriptions from people. :) |
| 14:50 | <kormoc> | hrm |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | oh, and more ram in the box would be keen |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | i forget what you said it'd cost? |
| 14:50 | <gbee> | Mythweather - Shows rain, wind and stuff. |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | (if you remember) |
| 14:51 | <xris> | I don't.. but it would depend on how much we wanted to add. |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | going to either 4 or 6 would be fine |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | i'll just pay for it, assuming it's not terribly expensive |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | even though my stock options aren't worth as much these days =) |
| 14:52 | <gnome42> | gbee: A hack for selecting a free'er livetv card http://pastebin.ca/936917 |
| 14:53 | <gnome42> | only reverse not random :)) |
| 14:53 | <gbee> | heh |
| 14:53 | <gnome42> | I only have one card so I can't avoid that particular problem |
| 14:54 | <gnome42> | or I always have it depending on how you look at it :) |
| 14:54 | <Chutt> | isn't there already a setting to do that? |
| 14:54 | <Chutt> | (use the tuner list in reverse) |
| 14:55 | <janneg> | gnome42: it won't help if you always do reverse |
| 14:55 | <gbee> | actually, though it seems like a hack I would have though it already worked that way |
| 14:55 | <gbee> | yeah, need to do it only when in LiveTV |
| 14:55 | <janneg> | Chutt: "avoid conflicts between recordings and livetv" is there |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | janneg, yeah |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | that's what that setting does |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | uses the tuner list backwards for live-tv |
| 14:57 | <gnome42> | I thought the "avoid conflicts between recordings and livetv" doesn't help in this situation. That's why people are complaining |
| 14:57 | <janneg> | to solve the issue we need an additional state restricted for "free" encoders and sort the list accordingly |
| 14:57 | <janneg> | gnome42: your patch won't help either |
| 14:58 | <gbee> | gnome42: no, I just tested, it does help but multirec changes the behaviour of existing systems where that setting was no previously required |
| 14:58 | <gbee> | s/no/not/ |
| 14:59 | <janneg> | it helps in the recording + livetv case but it won't help in the 2 livetv session case |
| 14:59 | <gbee> | true |
| 15:00 | <gnome42> | gbee: yeah, true. |
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| 15:02 | <gbee> | it's ok as a short term fix, I still think the option to browse across inputs/tuners would be the best possible long term fix if combined with a method to select the best card in the first place |
| 15:03 | <xris> | Chutt: have kormoc look up the part number when he gets back. |
| 15:04 | <gnome42> | gbee: yeah, that was just a hack. Not real fix. |
| 15:05 | <xris> | Chutt: I still think we should sell t-shirts to cover server costs like that. :) |
| 15:07 | <sphery> | or take donations... |
| 15:07 | <sphery> | perhaps through SD |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | i can cover it |
| 15:11 | <sphery> | gbee: re: comment in #4685 , perhaps [16483] should be merged from -fixes now that we've suggested he try DVD in trunk (or 0.21-fixes). :) |
| 15:11 | <xris> | heh |
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| 15:12 | <xris> | Chutt: I'm guessing somewhere in the $200-300 price range for 2x2G, though |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | mere pennies! |
| 15:13 | <xris> | then you make too much money. heh |
| 15:13 | <Chutt> | no need to collect money for it :p |
| 15:14 | <gbee> | sphery: I was waiting for Chutt to do the merge, but I suppose I could just have easily done it myself |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | i'll do one more merge tonight |
| 15:16 | <sphery> | May have been done for you: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/321352#321352 ;) |
| 15:16 | <xris> | we have 6 RAM slots avaiable |
| 15:16 | <xris> | PC3200/DDR400 Registered ECC - Interleaved |
| 15:16 | <xris> | getting a price check on 2x2G |
| 15:20 | <xris> | looks like we can't/shouldn't mix module sizes, so it's either adding a bunch of 1G sticks ($108 from simech), or 2G sticks (waiting on price) |
| 15:20 | <xris> | $260 each for the 2G modules |
| 15:21 | <Chutt> | the price on 1GB is double newegg |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148109 |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | well, not quite double, but.. |
| 15:22 | <CDev> | I just picked up 4 sticks of ECC FB-DIMMS (PC2-5300) for $213. |
| 15:23 | <CDev> | (1G) |
| 15:23 | <CDev> | 1g each that is... I'll stay out of it now. |
| 15:24 | <laga> | is mythtv.org down? |
| 15:24 | <Chutt> | no |
| 15:25 | <laga> | true. silly ISP. |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | i had just restarted apache for the main website |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | you might've hit that |
| 15:26 | <laga> | yes |
| 15:27 | <gbee> | Newegg is cheaper than buying from Crucial direct, which is odd, used to be much cheaper |
| 15:29 | <gbee> | http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT2KIT12872Y40B |
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| 15:42 | <laga> | Anduin: it seems that ofdb.py contains tabs, right? |
| 15:43 | <gbee> | are we officially no longer supporting the PVR-350 output? |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | no |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | if it breaks, we won't be fixing it without external patches, is all |
| 15:44 | <hads> | laga: All the Python stuff uses tabs I believe. |
| 15:45 | <laga> | oh. |
| 15:45 | * | laga reconfigures vim |
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| 15:46 | <gbee> | Chutt: ok, I'm wondering what to do with PVr-350 tickets, close them if they don't have a patch or just leave them until someone comes along with fixes? |
| 15:47 | <Chutt> | mark em all as 'infoneeded', i'd say |
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| 15:56 | <kormoc> | laga, python requires tabs I thought |
| 15:57 | <hads> | Na, just requires consistant indents. |
| 15:57 | <janneg> | no, you can indent by tabs and spaces as long as the indent wide is consistant |
| 15:58 | <kormoc> | fair 'nuff |
| 15:58 | <janneg> | I think the style doc at python.org recommends 4 spaces for indenting |
| 15:59 | <hads> | I believe it just says use tabs or spaces not both. |
| 15:59 | <hads> | "Never mix tabs and spaces. The most popular way of indenting Python is with spaces only. The second-most popular way is with tabs only." |
| 15:59 | <Anduin> | laga: Yes |
| 16:00 | <Anduin> | laga: If you have vim support modeline, it should pick it up from that file. |
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| 16:02 | <xris> | Chutt: server-grade RAM is often 80-100% more expensive than consumer. |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | xris, that was registered ecc ram |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | from the server section of newegg :p |
| 16:03 | <kormoc> | Heh |
| 16:03 | <kormoc> | Corsair has a nice mail in rebate lately |
| 16:04 | <kormoc> | xris, ram prices have dropped like rocks lately |
| 16:04 | <xris> | kormoc: gotcha. guess simech hasn't dropped the prices recently |
| 16:04 | <xris> | well, and ATP memory has always been a bit pricy |
| 16:10 | <xris> | Chutt: well, now you know. Should be fine as long as you don't mix module sizes.. apparently causes issues with supermicro boards. |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | so if i just grabbed a few of the 1GB crucial modules, that'd be fine |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | ? |
| 16:11 | <xris> | theoretically |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | like, 4 of em |
| 16:11 | <xris> | 6 slots available |
| 16:11 | <xris> | buy 4, we get 6G of RAM |
| 16:12 | <Chutt> | err, yeah |
| 16:12 | <Chutt> | while i do generally use a calculator, i can still add 2+4 =) |
| 16:12 | <xris> | heh |
| 16:12 | <xris> | should give me some to play with memcached on the services stuff, too. |
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| 16:15 | <gbee> | xris: are some of the icons being grabbed from sources other than lyngsat? When viewing the admin area earlier pbs.org attempted to set a cookie, which I thought was a little strange unless one of the icons came from their site |
| 16:16 | <xris> | yeah, some come from pbs |
| 16:16 | <xris> | there are also uk, sweden, and one other source.. from the xmltv stuff |
| 16:18 | <danielk22> | xris: have you done anything with the logo's that TMS keeps passing along from the networks? |
| 16:18 | <gbee> | ok, that explains it then |
| 16:19 | <xris> | danielk22: no. technically neither we nor TMS has the right to use them for anything other than those emails that TMS sends out |
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| 16:19 | <xris> | I'm trying to figure out how to work with the xmltv community to build a channel icon database, though. |
| 16:20 | <danielk22> | well I think when TMS says they are sent on behalf of the TV station/network the TV station/network wants em to be used.. |
| 16:21 | <danielk22> | it's only the greater icon database that TMS does not have the right to share |
| 16:21 | <gbee> | xris: I've an idea for the admin area, namely an optional filter or page, where just icons which have been submitted by more than x10, x20 people are shown |
| 16:22 | <xris> | gbee: yeah, that whole thing needs help. heh |
| 16:22 | <xris> | danielk22: I really want to work with these guys to set something up for mythtv/xmltv/sd: http://tviv.org/ |
| 16:22 | <gbee> | no hurry, you seem to know there is a problem :) |
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| 16:23 | <xris> | gbee: but yeah, adding a filter to those pages should be easy |
| 16:25 | <danielk22> | xris: this is unrelated to station icons right? They seem to be a general TV program wiki of some sort |
| 16:25 | <gbee> | maybe some sort of automatic threshold for approval too, something high (25,30)? but which means that popular lineups/channels don't wait for us to catch up |
| 16:25 | <xris> | danielk22: it would be an expansion of what they have... but the tv info would be good for the SD supplemental data stuff |
| 16:25 | <danielk22> | you're thinking more of a "Click here for more info on 'Stargate SG-1'" |
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| 16:26 | <xris> | they never responded to my email, so it may be a moot point |
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| 16:26 | <danielk22> | weird, maybe a one [wo]man operation? |
| 16:28 | <danielk22> | I know the person who runs "tktv.net" but that is a much smaller operation with much fewer shows. |
| 16:29 | <xris> | I just think it'd be nice to publish that supplemental info in a nice human-readable way like a wiki.... |
| 16:29 | <danielk22> | hmm, looks like she has gone dormant anyway |
| 16:31 | <danielk22> | xris: why not in a mythtv overlay window during a program, and a popup in the epg.. I like to have that stuff integrated.. using a browser via remote control is frustrating IMHO. |
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| 16:32 | <kormoc> | A scrollable EPG thing would work for my usage |
| 16:32 | <kormoc> | What would rock imho would be a way to say, I've watched every episode of star-trek so the schedule can be deleted rather then sitting there and never matching |
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| 16:35 | <danielk22> | kormoc: that would be cool... but I'd also like the option of deleting all watched history in that case, then I can rewatch something like Arrested Development, but only after I've seen every episode at least once. Plus we need to add sound to the menus so that trumpets can blare when you've watched an entire series. :) |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | confetti drops down the screen |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | big CONGRATULATIONS text pops up |
| 16:36 | <kormoc> | Aye! |
| 16:37 | <danielk22> | And it temporarily opens up the "ctrl-alt-shift-5" keycombo that lets you play tetris :) |
| 16:37 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | danielk22, i'm going to do one more merge from fixes->trunk tonight |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | and then people are going to have to do it themselves |
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| 16:38 | <danielk22> | yeah, I'll start committing to trunk first as soon as you've done the merge.. |
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| 16:55 | <Chutt> | gbee, still here? |
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| 17:02 | <gbee> | Chutt: yeah |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | so what'd you want to do for mythui stuff? |
| 17:04 | <gbee> | where am I going to start? I'm not clear on the question |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | basically |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:06 | <gbee> | well I want to finish off what I started on myththemedmenu, change that over to using mythui theme directly |
| 17:08 | <gbee> | I've also got an unfinished MythUITextEdit class that needs to be completed and committed, after that I was going to take it as it comes, probably starting with some simple and little used screens |
| 17:09 | <gbee> | I think I'll create a branch for that, to minimise disruption, but merge back to trunk at regular intervals |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | plugins first? |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | or.. |
| 17:10 | <gbee> | Chutt: I could start with plugins, they tend to be simple, with the exception of mythmusic |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | i mean, that's what i'd suggest |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | less people will bitch if they break temporarily, too |
| 17:10 | <gbee> | yeah |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | get all the bugs worked out of the lower level ui code before starting on the big stuff =) |
| 17:11 | <gbee> | in what little work I've done so far I ran into mythui bugs and improvements ... |
| 17:11 | <gbee> | yep |
| 17:11 | <gbee> | you got there before me ;) |
| 17:14 | <gbee> | just remembered that I planned to do mythweather first, made a lot of sense because I need to cleanup the UI anyway |
| 17:15 | <gnome42> | gbee: still poking away ... http://pastebin.ca/937105 can't test it well here :/ |
| 17:16 | <gbee> | I'll follow that with mythgame, mythflix and mythnews, all small one/two window plugins with no new widgets required |
| 17:18 | <gbee> | scrub that, I'll start with those three plugins, get them out of the way because mythweather is a little more involved, I want to implement my grouping idea there |
| 17:18 | <gbee> | gnome42: recording at the moment, so I'll test later if that's ok? |
| 17:19 | <gnome42> | gbee: yeah, that would be great thanks. no rush |
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| 18:23 | <gbee> | ewww, mythflix reimplements chunks of xmlparse |
| 18:23 | <gbee> | as does mythnews |
| 18:26 | <gbee> | and chunks of myththemeddialog |
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| 18:27 | <danielk22> | mythflix is pretty much a copy-n-paste of mythnews.. |
| 18:28 | <gbee> | yep, realised that when I looked at them side by side |
| 18:30 | <gbee> | both use MythDialog instead of MythThemedDialog so there is a lot of UI code in there which can be stripped out |
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| 18:31 | <gbee> | but it makes for more work in converting them to mythui, at least MythThemedDialog had a lot of superficial similarities to MythScreenType |
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| 18:57 | <Chutt> | that was intentional :p |
| 19:00 | <gbee> | Chutt: well it would have been a huge coincidence ;) |
| 19:00 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 19:00 | <Chutt> | i dunno, i didn't do MythThemedDialog |
| 19:00 | <gbee> | if it wasn't intentional ... |
| 19:01 | <gbee> | anyway, mythflix is nearly done |
| 19:01 | <Chutt> | gbee, naw, but i thought about redoing it a bit |
| 19:01 | <Chutt> | mythgame might be a little more work, since it's using the other tree-type, isn't it? |
| 19:01 | <gbee> | yep, managedtreelist |
| 19:02 | <gbee> | so I'm leaving it for the moment |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | gbee, might want to start consolidating the base types (a buttonlist, a button, etc) in base.xml, too |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | ideally, there'd be one base definition for all that stuff |
| 19:02 | <gbee> | yeah, I'll do that |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | so the look's more consistant |
| 19:02 | <gbee> | fonts need doing too |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | right |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | same fonts, same trees, etc |
| 19:02 | <gbee> | aye |
| 19:02 | <Chutt> | good stuff =) |
| 19:03 | <gbee> | and I'll have to do it soon too, I don't really want to go back over old ground too much |
| 19:03 | <Chutt> | right |
| 19:03 | <Chutt> | that's why i brought it up =) |
| 19:04 | <Chutt> | i do like the inheritance work in mythcontrols |
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| 19:15 | * | MrGandalf wonders why he goes through the trouble of getting DVB radio text working when DVB radio won't even play without mass stuttering.. |
| 19:16 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: current trunk? that's fixed here |
| 19:16 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: close enough.. after the fix anyway |
| 19:17 | <gbee> | :/ |
| 19:17 | <MrGandalf> | bah, I give up.. three days and I've gotten nowhere. I hate working with ffmpeg |
| 19:19 | <MrGandalf> | the stuttering is only a couple minutes in and goes away after a couple minutes. very odd. easily gotten around though |
| 19:22 | <MrGandalf> | anyone who knows AFD::GetFrame(), can you answer a simple question for me? |
| 19:24 | <MrGandalf> | oh well |
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| 19:29 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: try the question anyway, I don't claim to know anything of value about GetFrame, but I've spent time looking at it in the past |
| 19:29 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: thanks, I've pose it then :) |
| 19:30 | <MrGandalf> | given three streams, stream 0 == audio, stream 1 == video, stream 3 == data. In GetFrame(), would stream 3 EVER get processed considering it comes after the video stream? |
| 19:32 | <MrGandalf> | I guess the real question is, will av_get_frame() always start at the lowest stream index and work up or pass packets for any stream not yet read? |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | all packets of stream 3 are after stream 1's ended? |
| 19:33 | <MrGandalf> | chutt: I don't know how to answer that.. I'm guessing no, this is a ts file. |
| 19:33 | <MrGandalf> | but stream 3 is a very low bitrate |
| 19:33 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: based on it's behaviour and not what I know of the actual code, yes - UK DVB radio has no video but it does have data (MHEG) which is processed just fine |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | then it doesn't matter. |
| 19:34 | <MrGandalf> | ok, so it will get processed then |
| 19:34 | <janneg> | CODEC_TYPE_DATA packets are dropped explicitly. see line 3340 |
| 19:35 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: if that's true, you just saved me |
| 19:36 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: can you give me some context? my 3340 I'm sure isn't yours |
| 19:36 | <gbee> | yeah, it does and the reason MHEG works is that we special case it at line 3319 |
| 19:36 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: // we don't care about other data streams |
| 19:36 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: search for //we don't care about other data streams |
| 19:37 | <MrGandalf> | ah, ok.. |
| 19:37 | <MrGandalf> | well, I've already added my own processing there |
| 19:37 | <janneg> | damn, gbee was faster and didn't forgot the space |
| 19:37 | <gbee> | copy/paste :) |
| 19:38 | <MrGandalf> | http://pastebin.ca/937366 |
| 19:39 | <MrGandalf> | I've been staring at this for better than 2 days now. av_get_frame() never returns my stream |
| 19:39 | <MrGandalf> | thus that code never gets executed. |
| 19:39 | <MrGandalf> | but the stream exists in ic->streams |
| 19:39 | <gbee> | just noticed I'm still waiting for commit emails 10-15 minutes after the fact |
| 19:39 | <MrGandalf> | and AFD::ScanStreams sees it. |
| 19:43 | <janneg> | because it is in the pmt, are you sure that packets are in the stream? |
| 19:44 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: yea. I used tsreader to extract the stream and it's there |
| 19:46 | <janneg> | check libavformat/mpegts.c if it's dropping packets for some reason |
| 19:47 | <MrGandalf> | I've been through that but I may have missed something. |
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| 19:49 | <janneg> | if you can upload a sample I'll look at it in the next days |
| 19:50 | <janneg> | good night |
| 19:50 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: I'll send you a link. Many thanks. |
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| 21:44 | <rhpot1991_laptop> | is there documentation on the perl bindings anywhere, so I don't go reinventing the wheel? |
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| 21:50 | <kormoc> | they're mostly self documenting, and xris is the guy who wrote them |
| 21:55 | <rhpot1991_laptop> | alright thanks |
| 22:11 | <sphery> | rhpot1991_laptop: Also, see some of the contrib scripts that use them for "usage docs" (i.e. mythrename.pl, misc_status_info/*.pl, optimize_mythdb.pl, icons/master_iconmap/channel_icons.pl) |
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| 23:27 | * | sphery wonders how #4921 could be a Myth bug |
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| 23:59 | <xris> | danielk22: just deleted an in-progress zero byte recording and the backend didn't crash... |
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