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07:48 | <janneg> | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18116 qt4 branch running (well sort of) on a nokia n810 |
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07:59 | <gbee> | nice |
08:00 | <janneg> | gbee: Were your two failed recordings scheduled to start at the same time? |
08:01 | <gbee> | janneg: think so, let me just check |
08:02 | <gbee> | yes, both started at 22:00 |
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08:03 | <gbee> | different cards though |
08:04 | <janneg> | my failed recordings started both at 20:00 |
08:04 | <gbee> | sorry mis-read, both recordings were on the same physical card |
08:04 | <janneg> | hmm, there goes my theory of multirec being racy |
08:04 | <janneg> | and I type to slow |
08:05 | <gbee> | there was a third recording on the second card and I got the log entries mixed up |
08:07 | <janneg> | no problem, And I'm relieved, recordings blocking each other on different cards would be more severe and is harder to debug and |
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08:34 | <janneg> | gbee: testing now for qt4 qmake in mythplugins/configure |
08:36 | <gbee> | janneg: thanks |
08:38 | <janneg> | that was the easy to fix issue. now for multirec debugging |
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10:03 | <janneg> | gah, failed recordings not reproduceable under gdb with appropiate logging |
10:03 | <janneg> | 7x2 successfull recordings in the last hour |
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10:26 | <laga> | danielk22: i have seen people reporting 'odd' colours on ati radeon cards during video playback, eg people looked like smurfs. the issue went away when they adjusted huet to about 50%.. i've verified that their Xv adapter name still matches the one in calc_hue_base() (libs/libmythtv/videoout_xv.cpp), maybe it was fixed in the driver? |
10:29 | <danielk22> | laga: calc_hue_base() doesn't fix a bug; there are many valid 'no change' hue values that are valid. Are we sure the result of calc_hue_base() is still being applied? |
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10:30 | <GreyFoxx> | Do we do anything differently when first launching the backend when it comes to accessing the firewire devices than we do for later recordings? |
10:31 | <GreyFoxx> | Lately I've gotten a lot of instances where the busreset seems to fail, but stop/start mythbackend and it works and picks up recording |
10:33 | <laga> | danielk22: no, i'll take a look |
10:33 | <GreyFoxx> | After the first recording, we do a bus reset which returns chan 63, get no data and call busreset 3 more times and each gets chan -1. |
10:33 | <GreyFoxx> | If I stop and start the backend it just "works" |
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10:37 | <laga> | danielk22: i'm not quite sure how calc_hue_base() is supposed to work.. will it set the initial hue value to 50%? because for the guy who had that problem, the hue slider was at 0 |
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10:41 | <danielk22> | laga: It should set it to 0% on nvidia cards and 50% on most others. |
10:44 | <danielk22> | greyfoxx: it reads we are failing to recover from a bus reset. These happen whenever a device on the bus is power cycled, a device is plugged in or unplugged, or when the recorder isn't getting any data. Possibly the firewire drivers have changed and we need to adjust... |
10:45 | <GreyFoxx> | Ok. In my case there is no other firewire device, the STB hasn't been power cycled, (but 4 days ago the backend was) |
10:46 | <GreyFoxx> | but over the last several days to a week I've had more and more failed firewire recordings |
10:47 | <GreyFoxx> | if I restart the backend in the middle of a failed recording it records the rest of the show happily |
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10:49 | <GreyFoxx> | usually failures coincide with a need to change the channel |
10:49 | <GreyFoxx> | so if I record 3 shows in a row on channel 600 they are fine |
10:49 | <GreyFoxx> | if a change is required then it seems to be more likely to fail |
10:50 | <GreyFoxx> | but this is really just annectotal observations at this point |
10:52 | <laga> | danielk22: i can actually reproduce the problem with my radeon card, so i'll try to debug it.. |
10:52 | <janneg> | anything left before merging qt4 back to trunk? |
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10:54 | <janneg> | I wasn't able to reproduce the failed simultaneous multirec recordings in 10 tries |
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11:06 | <danielk22> | thx laga |
11:07 | <danielk22> | greyfoxx: Have you tried disabling the auto resets? (I think the setting is in mythtv-setup). |
11:08 | <GreyFoxx> | I didn't know that was an option |
11:08 | <GreyFoxx> | I'll try that |
11:08 | <GreyFoxx> | I'm testing several recordings in arow right now |
11:09 | <GreyFoxx> | so far 4 in arow on the same channel have worked, next I'll try one that causes a channel change first |
11:12 | <janneg> | bah, svn merge is plain stupid. merging back to trunk causes tons of conflicts |
11:14 | <janneg> | svn status | grep "^C" | wc -l |
11:14 | <janneg> | 142 |
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11:16 | <janneg> | does anything speaks against applying svn diff ...trunk/mythtv ...branches/mythtv-qt4 instead of a proper merge? |
11:16 | <janneg> | Chutt: ^^^ |
11:17 | <janneg> | danielk22: how did you merged multirec back to trunk? |
11:18 | <danielk22> | janne don't recall.. usually svn merge, unless there were problems, then I might have used a diff |
11:18 | <danielk22> | using a diff means you have to watch out for adds and removes. |
11:19 | <danielk22> | removes will just blank the file after a diff, not actually remove it. adds need to be manually added. |
11:19 | <Cardoe> | you could also use svnmerge.py |
11:19 | <danielk22> | Probably not applicable here, but svn properties are not carried over by a diff |
11:19 | <Cardoe> | which is a user-side implementation of some of the merge features that SVN 1.5 will offer |
11:19 | <Cardoe> | if things don't merge right |
11:20 | <Cardoe> | basically you'll get 3-way merge help |
11:20 | <gbee> | danielk22: re adds? Really? I've been using svn diff > foo.diff and patch -p0 < foo.diff to add new files to another checkout for a while |
11:21 | <danielk22> | gbee: you need to do an "svn add" on the new files.. they are there, svn just doesn't know about them. |
11:21 | <janneg> | gbee: you have to remember to do svn rm and svn add on the files |
11:21 | <gbee> | doh, yeah, sorry |
11:21 | <danielk22> | the diff approach also loses any svn move history, but again probably not applicable here. |
11:22 | <janneg> | I think I go the diff patch approach. I don't think I've motivated enough to resolve conflicts in 140 files |
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11:24 | <gbee> | janneg: are you going to try and fix the multirec bug before merging back to trunk? |
11:26 | <janneg> | gbee: no, I couldn't reproduce it with -v channel,record under gdb |
11:27 | <janneg> | 100% success in 10 attempts |
11:28 | <gbee> | ok, maybe we should post a list of known bugs/issues to the -dev list so we hopefully don't get multiple reports of things we already know about? Just a thought, but I suspect the 3 or more warnings already posted to the dev list might not be enough ;) |
11:29 | <gbee> | there are already people posting to the -user list about themes no longer working with trunk, despite my warnings about mythui |
11:30 | <janneg> | I had planned to mention them in the commit message but I could also write another announcement |
11:31 | <janneg> | grr, I want another vcs. svn diff trunk mythtv-qt4 takes ages |
11:32 | <gbee> | don't make me learn another vcs ;) |
11:33 | <janneg> | 428 files changed, 5197 insertions(+), 3615 deletions(-) |
11:34 | <stuarta> | i sense pain in the future |
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12:12 | <Chutt> | janneg, as long as you're sure nothing will get removed by doing a diff.. |
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12:13 | <janneg> | Chutt: sure. I'm verifying the diff atm |
12:15 | <laga> | danielk22: right, xv_hue_base isn't applied anymore.. i'll supply a patch later |
12:16 | <laga> | danielk22: if my assumption is correct, it was broken 5 months ago. i wonder why nobody has complained since then |
12:17 | * | janneg guesses nobody uses ati cards with mythtv |
12:17 | * | stuarta shouts me! |
12:18 | <stuarta> | however i don't use their drivers |
12:20 | <laga> | stuarta: it happens with the free drivers |
12:21 | <laga> | janneg: you only see it when you enable "xv picture controls" |
12:23 | * | stuarta suspects he hasn't enabled "xv picture controls" |
12:25 | <gbee> | odd, recording made last night on my parents box isn't there today, no log messages suggesting it auto-expired and there is a transcode log entry showing it was definately recorded and not zero-byte (3.9Gb) but no sign of it |
12:26 | <gbee> | think I need to enable the deleted group stuff for them, because I suspect they accidently deleted it and just don't remember doing it :) |
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12:36 | <janneg> | yeah, aac decoder patch posted for review on ffmpeg-dev |
12:48 | <GreyFoxx> | danielk22: It looks like my lockups are related to changing channels, maybe not waiting long enough for the channel change to occur on the STB? |
12:49 | <GreyFoxx> | I have no failures recording if I don't change channels, but do get failues if a channel change is involved |
12:49 | <GreyFoxx> | It's as if we aren't waiting long enough for data to arrive after issuing the channel change before assuming we need to reset the bus |
12:49 | <GreyFoxx> | I'll try it with turning off the bus reset option |
12:54 | <danielk22> | gf: k, maybe we need to up the timeout, or make it configurable.. |
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13:20 | <sphery> | What it says: If you choose to submit a bug report, please make sure to include a brief description of what you were doing, along with the following backtrace as an attachment (please don't paste the whole thing into the ticket). |
13:20 | <sphery> | What the user sees (ref #5035, #5026, #5018...): ... submit a bug report ... paste the whole thing |
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13:39 | <justinh> | the folks who are complaining about themes no longer working can eat cake :) |
13:39 | <justinh> | or they can just wait for a while til I get my head around what needs to change & I can help them |
13:39 | <justinh> | as in... give enough hints for fixes to emerge |
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14:05 | <GreyFoxx> | turning off the auto bus reset seems to have made it better. |
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14:34 | <Cardoe> | justinh: you might hear some murmur from Gentoo users... I'm going to try to have mythtv-themes pull in both repos |
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14:44 | <hti_pro> | Firstly i feel that this issue is developer related, and I hope I am not crossing any lines. If this issue is not relevant to the channel please direct me to the correct place. I have an idea for a startup company that could involve mythtv. This company would primarily be interested in offering a whole house distributed pvr application. I am interested in using mythtv to do this. I would not be selling the software of course, in a |
14:46 | <Cardoe> | ok |
14:46 | <Cardoe> | Someone needs to tell nigel |
14:46 | <Cardoe> | Because he's ignoring me |
14:46 | <Cardoe> | 64 bit Intel machines should not have -march=k8 |
14:46 | <Cardoe> | it's -march=nocona |
14:47 | <Cardoe> | -march=k8 will potentially lead to bad instructions in future GCC versions when they actually make use of the full x86_64 instruction set |
14:47 | <Cardoe> | since k8 specifies the AMD instruction set |
14:53 | <gbee> | danielk22: have you got the message about your email address bouncing email from Robert? |
14:53 | <janneg> | Cardoe: I'll fix it after the next ffmpeg merge |
14:54 | <gbee> | hti_pro: we tend to reserve this channel for code related discussion, if you are looking for permission etc then best contact the lead developer, Isaac, in person |
14:55 | * | gbee ducks a swipe from Chutt |
14:55 | <hti_pro> | thank you very much |
14:55 | <xris> | hti_pro: from personal experience, I can pretty safely say that Isaac doesn't really care, as long as you follow the terms of the GPL. |
14:56 | <xris> | just be aware that the schedules direct agreement won't allow you to sell/provide SD memberships for people for US/Canada listings. |
14:56 | <xris> | so you'll probably have to work something out with TMS. |
14:59 | <gbee> | hti_pro: as xris said, myth is GPL'd so you are free to do whatever you want, but I think we'd ask that you be prepared to handle your customers support requests - a couple of guys selling mythtv boxes commercially come to us whenever they are asked a question, or a feature is requested by their customers - that's not really on, because they are paid to look after their customers, we aren't paid a penny |
15:00 | <gbee> | if you require changes or features in the mythtv codebase then either make them yourself or hire someone to do it |
15:01 | <hti_pro> | I totally agree, I am interested in taking feature requests at some point, at which time I plan to have my own hand in the development, and I would like to do it in the interest of the entire mythtv community not just my customers |
15:01 | <gbee> | cool |
15:04 | <hti_pro> | alright well I thank all of you for your time and input and look forward to the continued development in mythtv and I would also like to say that I am very happy with the current status of mythtv and that you guys have done a great job thus far. |
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15:12 | <gbee> | anyone know of a linux tool for finding unused headers? |
15:12 | <gbee> | or a gcc switch ... |
15:16 | <janneg> | no, unfortunately not. I've searched already last week |
15:17 | <janneg> | last compile test before the merge is running |
15:17 | * | janneg can't look at diffs anymore |
15:21 | * | Cardoe cheers janneg |
15:28 | <gbee> | where are global keybindings defined? I need to add a backspace binding for the textedit widget |
15:29 | <gbee> | okay - grepping for different strings finally paid off |
15:45 | <janneg> | final diffstat (mythtv and mythplugins) before commit: 716 files changed, 8257 insertions(+), 10368 deletions(-) |
15:48 | <janneg> | and committed |
15:51 | <gbee> | lets see how many conflicts there are in my tree ... |
15:52 | <gbee> | six, not too bad |
15:52 | <Chutt> | haha |
15:53 | <Chutt> | the change is too big for trac |
15:55 | <Chutt> | janneg, sending email to the -dev list? |
15:57 | <janneg> | Chutt: huh, it shouldn't be larger than a ffmpeg sync |
15:57 | <Chutt> | apparently it is =) |
15:57 | <janneg> | I'm composing it |
15:57 | <Chutt> | it's not showing the diff in trac, just gives you the option to download it |
15:57 | <gbee> | touches more files |
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16:05 | <Cardoe> | ebuild added to Gentoo just to punish the people that annoy me |
16:05 | <gbee> | what, us? :p |
16:06 | <Cardoe> | heh. nah |
16:06 | <Cardoe> | well maybe danielk22... |
16:06 | <Cardoe> | but he knows why.. |
16:06 | * | Cardoe pokes danielk22 with a ./configure line |
16:07 | <Cardoe> | he closed some users ticket saying the Gentoo maintainer must be using the wrong ./configure line.. |
16:07 | <Cardoe> | except I had danielk22 review the ./configure line I was building 0.21 with before I added it to Gentoo |
16:08 | <gbee> | not looking forward to the noise this will generate on the -dev list and trac, but lets hope that I'm just being overly pessimistic and that people did actually read the warnings we gave |
16:10 | <Chutt> | xris, so we didn't go with a small logo, huh |
16:12 | <xris> | Chutt: that's just the sample. could switch, but I think you were the only vote for the small logo |
16:12 | <xris> | tshirt with small pocket-area logo looks a little funny, imho |
16:12 | <Chutt> | well, i won't be wearing that :p |
16:13 | <xris> | could always get some polos for the board. :) |
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16:16 | <xris> | but... do weigh in on the logo size.. maybe the rest of the board will actually say something. |
16:18 | <Chutt> | maybe if it wasn't so tall |
16:18 | <Chutt> | heh |
16:18 | <Chutt> | but then it'd be squished |
16:20 | <janneg> | the diff was 28k lines |
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16:21 | <xris> | Chutt: yeah, I thought about a 2/3 size one, but then it just looks weird/small |
16:24 | * | Chutt updates to TOT |
16:24 | <Chutt> | production box, even |
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16:27 | <xris> | how long before qt4 stuff gets merged into head? |
16:27 | <Chutt> | it's in now |
16:27 | <justinh> | Cardoe: only in 0.21-fixes I hope.... I can still hardly even bear to look at the 4:3 ones |
16:27 | <janneg> | -40 minutes |
16:28 | <Cardoe> | justinh: yeah that's what I'm working with |
16:28 | <xris> | Chutt: ahh, cool. guess I should recompile |
16:28 | <xris> | of course, that would require that I could GET to my home network... stupid comcast... |
16:28 | <Cardoe> | xris: use a different port then 22 ;) |
16:29 | <Cardoe> | and use something like dyndns.org and ddclient |
16:29 | <Chutt> | heh |
16:29 | <Chutt> | whoops |
16:29 | <Chutt> | no qt4 on that box |
16:30 | <justinh> | Cardoe: AFAIK they're all good with 0.21 still. the mythui port would involve a lot of work I think, so I'm looking into doing something else. I even considered kicking glass-wide into shape for 0.21 but to me it's lost its shine. need to break new ground |
16:31 | <xris> | Cardoe: no.. my connection is down... I have a business line -- no blocked ports. |
16:32 | <Cardoe> | xris: oh |
16:32 | <Cardoe> | xris: well then.. I agree.. stupid comcast. :-D |
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16:44 | <Chutt> | <command-line>: warning: missing terminating " character |
16:44 | <Chutt> | <command-line>: warning: missing terminating " character |
16:44 | <Chutt> | version.cpp:3: error: expected primary-expression before ';' token |
16:44 | <Chutt> | grep: "/root/mythtv/mythtv"/libs/libmyth/mythcontext.h: No such file or directory |
16:44 | <Chutt> | (grep from before version.cpp compilation) |
16:49 | <janneg> | Chutt: are you sure you're using qt4 qmake? |
16:49 | <Chutt> | hrm |
16:49 | <Chutt> | no, actually |
16:49 | <Chutt> | i thought you changed it to use qmake-qt4 if it existed? |
16:49 | <janneg> | I did |
16:50 | <Chutt> | it's using qmake on the commandline for everything |
16:50 | <Chutt> | not qmake-qt4 |
16:51 | <janneg> | I had to delete the Makefiles in my trunk checkout before it actually used the configured qmake |
16:51 | <gbee> | it's using QTDIR here which points to the qt3 qmake, I have to manually override with --qmake |
16:51 | <Chutt> | it's still using qmake here |
16:51 | <Chutt> | did a distclean |
16:52 | <gbee> | even when qmake in /usr/bin is symlinked to the qt4 version it uses the qt3 one, very annoying |
16:52 | <janneg> | Chutt: if the standard qmake is qt4 it will use it |
16:52 | <Chutt> | 'qmake' is qt3 |
16:52 | <Chutt> | 'qmake-qt4' is qt4 |
16:53 | <Chutt> | there we go |
16:53 | <Chutt> | 'make distclean' didn't delete _all_ the Makefiles |
16:53 | <gbee> | janneg: any chance we can parse the output of qmake --version in configure and bail before trying to compile? |
16:53 | <janneg> | hah |
16:53 | <janneg> | gbee: that's already there |
16:53 | <Chutt> | the makefile in libs was still qmake, not qmake-qt4 |
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16:55 | <gbee> | http://pastebin.ca/957197 |
16:55 | <gbee> | after a distclean |
16:56 | <gbee> | libs and programs definately should have been removed |
16:57 | <gbee> | looks like I was just hitting the same issue as Chutt, though that doesn't explain why forcing --qmake worked |
16:57 | * | gbee shrugs |
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17:10 | <Chutt> | i wonder why dbcheck.cpp takes so long to compile |
17:10 | <Chutt> | it's basiacally just a huge list of strings |
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17:15 | <gbee> | completely refusing to tune on my second tuner atm, backend restart didn't help |
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17:30 | <gbee> | any benefit to using "-exec rm -f {};" instead of -delete |
17:30 | <gbee> | ? |
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17:33 | <kormoc> | gbee, supported by older versions of find, but -delete is the 'better way(tm)(r)' |
17:34 | <janneg> | -exec rm is traditional |
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17:34 | <janneg> | Chutt, gbee: make sure to revert the 4 not generated makefiles in the tree |
17:34 | <Chutt> | what 4? |
17:34 | <gbee> | contrib ones for a start |
17:35 | <Chutt> | i don't build anything in contrib, so =) |
17:35 | <Chutt> | and i checked that i had no local changes |
17:36 | <janneg> | Makefiles not generated by qmake but handwritten and under version control |
17:42 | <Chutt> | aah |
17:42 | * | kormoc shoots Colin Guthrie. Just let the topic die already... |
17:44 | <Chutt> | janneg, none of those are used in a normal make =) |
17:48 | <janneg> | Chutt: sure, but the changes might get comitted by the next svn ci |
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17:52 | <gnome42> | gbee: there are other real advantages to -exec rm ... although they are alluding me atm :) (ie. stay away from -delete, it'll eventually burn ya IMHO :) |
17:52 | <kormoc> | gnome42, I seem to recall it being the other way around, -delete is the 'better' way |
17:53 | <gnome42> | gbee: oh, I remember one advantage now ... |
17:53 | <gbee> | been using it since it was added to find, but I thought I'd better ask whether there was a good reason people were still using -exec rm |
17:53 | <gbee> | since I'm usually the last to know these things |
17:54 | <gnome42> | -delete does not fork so if your 'found' list is very long you will run out of chars on the cmdline in a hurry |
17:54 | <kormoc> | you sure? |
17:54 | <gnome42> | AIX is the worst for that |
17:54 | <gnome42> | kormoc: i think so :) But I'd have to recheck to be sure |
17:55 | <gnome42> | -exec rm forks and rm for each I'm pretty sure |
17:55 | <kormoc> | it actually queues them up iirc |
17:55 | <janneg> | I would consider not forking for every file an advantage |
17:56 | <gnome42> | the cmdline limit in linux is huge though |
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17:56 | <gnome42> | janneg: I would too but, in practice -exec rm is always safe |
17:57 | <janneg> | yes, and forking is pretty cheap on linux |
17:57 | <gnome42> | especially compared to the IO ;) |
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18:03 | <kormoc> | gnome42, 100,000 8 char filenames -delete worked fine, rm * did not "Argument list too long" |
18:03 | <kormoc> | gnome42, I do believe that -delete doesn't fork *but* it runs the unlink syscall once per file (strace agrees with this) |
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18:05 | <kormoc> | gnome42, and given my ARG_MAX is 131,072 bytes, 900,000 bytes is a good bit over that |
18:05 | <gnome42> | kormoc: I believe ya. It was that superstar Zijlstra's fault! :)) http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/781874#781874 |
18:09 | <gnome42> | limitless on linux, so it's just a portability concern I guess. |
18:11 | <kormoc> | heh |
18:12 | <janneg> | gnome42: the -2k lines for qt4 port are coming from killing mythbrowser. the port added 1500-2000 lines. big part of it being db updates though |
18:12 | <gnome42> | I wonder if there's issues if there's spaces in the filenames, dunno |
18:13 | <gnome42> | janneg: oh, I see. How much without the DB updates considered? (if you happen to know) |
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18:16 | <kormoc> | gnome42, also, if it matters, 100,000 files, -delete takes 2.6s real time, -exec rm takes 127.6s |
18:16 | <janneg> | gnome42: libmythtv/dbcheck.cpp adds 550 lines |
18:17 | <gnome42> | kormoc: thx, I was curious about the times. |
18:18 | <kormoc> | gnome42, and they both handle files with spaces correctly |
18:20 | <gnome42> | k, good to know (for linux aways). Gotta run |
18:20 | * | kormoc waves |
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18:31 | <janneg> | gnome42: most of the added lines are the db updates. ~1200 lines |
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18:49 | <xris> | grumble. can't blame comcast for lost internet at home.. firewall kernel panic. |
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19:24 | <Chutt> | janneg, mythphone crashes mythfrontend on startup for me |
19:24 | <Chutt> | assert due to a qwidget being created outside of the gui thread |
19:26 | <Chutt> | my fonts are all wrong with mepo-wide :( |
19:26 | <Chutt> | probably just need to get the newer version of the theme |
19:31 | <Chutt> | ... |
19:31 | <Chutt> | weird |
19:31 | <Chutt> | it's like it's using two different fonts on screen |
19:32 | <Chutt> | the 'a's and 't's are lower than every other character |
19:33 | <janneg> | Chutt: do you use mythphone? i.e. has it a valid config? |
19:33 | <Chutt> | nope |
19:33 | <Chutt> | never used it |
19:33 | <Chutt> | other than compiling/installing it |
19:34 | <janneg> | I can't reproduce it. I can even enter the mythphone screen |
19:34 | <Chutt> | i'll check it out later |
19:34 | <Chutt> | might be that it repros on my non-production system =) |
19:34 | <Chutt> | everything (except the fonts in mepo-wide) looks ok on my main box |
19:34 | <Chutt> | not that i've done more than live-tv and playing back a recording yert |
19:34 | <Chutt> | yet |
19:37 | <janneg> | text is for some reason smaller than with qt3. but all glyphs looks the same |
19:38 | * | janneg is installing debian etch in a virtual machine to test compilation with qt4.2 |
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19:49 | <Chutt> | heh |
19:49 | <Chutt> | did anyone ever see that flickering in playback? |
19:50 | <Chutt> | it's happening on my production machine |
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19:51 | <laga> | what flickering? |
19:51 | <Chutt> | in the qt4 port |
19:51 | <Chutt> | it's pretty obvious =) |
19:52 | <laga> | ah, i don t have the qt4 port yet :) |
19:55 | <gbee> | I've not seen any flickering |
19:55 | <janneg> | I don't have any flickering |
19:57 | <gbee> | Chutt: sure it's not related to linear deint being forced on by the playback profile changes just prior to the 0.21 release? |
19:58 | <gbee> | I do see a nasty flicker caused by linear deint being used with Nvidia TV-out and the cards flicker filter, caught me out when I upgraded relatives to 0.21 |
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20:02 | <Chutt> | no |
20:03 | <Chutt> | it's blacking out the area where the preview video would be |
20:03 | <Chutt> | as well as some of the other info thingies |
20:04 | <janneg> | I hope that's not caused by my late changes. my productive system is still on r16772 |
20:06 | <Chutt> | disabling the video preview fixes it |
20:06 | <janneg> | ah, that would explain it. video preview is disabled |
20:06 | <gbee> | don't have video preview enabled, but it shouldn't be running when the video is playing |
20:06 | <Chutt> | apparently it's running enough =) |
20:08 | <gbee> | playingSomething should be set false when play is called and that should shutdown the preview video |
20:08 | <janneg> | it's not visible in the watch recordings screen |
20:10 | <gbee> | playbackbox.cpp lines 2750, 2751 and PlaybackBox::drawVideo() line 1054 |
20:10 | <Chutt> | gbee, i know it's _supposed_ to be off |
20:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | the previewVideoRefreshTimer is still firing off I think and since previewVideoEnabled is still true, it still calls update(blackholebounds) |
20:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | in PBB::timeout() |
20:11 | <Chutt> | i was just going to ask if it was still calling update(), though |
20:11 | <Chutt> | might be some wackiness with event filters |
20:13 | <gbee> | yeah, looks like CM is right, stopping the timer in play() or checking that !playingsomething before calling update() in timeout() should fix it |
20:13 | <gbee> | was that something danielk22 recently added? I don't remember seeing it before |
20:13 | <Chutt> | it's a _little_ hard to code on a 80" screen sitting 12 feet away |
20:13 | <Chutt> | at 1080p |
20:17 | <gbee> | ok, committed a fix, but I take no responsibility ;) |
20:17 | <gbee> | I'd rather have stopped the timer, but at a glance I couldn't see where I'd restart it after stopping playback (I assume it's there, I just didn't want to spend time looking for it) |
20:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you'd have to delve into the previewVideoState changing stuff probably. |
20:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | actually, you might be able to do it in startPlayer() and killPlayer() (and killPlayerSafe()) |
20:20 | <gbee> | what I've committed should work if we were right about the problem and it's a good enough fix until playbackbox is ported to mythui, at which point it becomes a non-issue |
20:20 | <Chutt> | yup |
20:20 | <Chutt> | excellent, thanks |
20:21 | <Chutt> | wife's in the middle of watching something now, though, so i'll have to test later =) |
20:27 | * | Captain_Murdoch fights with his frontends' shared nfsroot environment to get qt4 rpms installed |
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20:40 | <gbee> | right, I'm off to bed, changes to mythuitextedit don't quite work so I'll try again tomorrow night :/ |
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