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| 04:59 | <gbee> | make distclean isn't doing a thorough job, ran it twice on this checkout but it still ran into lirc objects from the old i386 build |
| 05:00 | <laga> | gbee: how's the ati card? |
| 05:01 | <gbee> | laga: finally managed to get xvideo with the latest official driver from the website and the --overlay-type=Xv arg to aticonfig |
| 05:01 | <laga> | nice |
| 05:02 | <gbee> | xvideo support should have been in the driver version before that - 8.471 (it's in the changelog for that version) but it wasn't until I installed 8.476 that it started to work |
| 05:13 | <gbee> | I've not actually seen how well playback works yet though, had to recompile because of changed libs |
| 05:18 | <gbee> | this hasn't gone as smoothly as it should have ;) |
| 05:20 | <laga> | proprietary ati crap :) |
| 05:23 | <gbee> | I'm going to be charitable and acknowledge that they are making an effort to improve the situation, just comes a little late |
| 05:40 | <gbee> | they are releasing new versions each month, that's how the new numerbing schema worked from Nov 2007 (7.11) to April 08 - (8.4) |
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| 05:58 | <emja> | oops. wrong channel |
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| 09:25 | <esperegegu> | anyone knows what I have to put in xorg.conf for propriety ati drivers to stop tearing? |
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| 10:02 | <mjj29> | why does mythcommflag on a 2hr recording always cause my machine to thrash itself to death |
| 10:06 | <danielk22> | mjj, esp, wrong channel, see mythtv-users |
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| 10:07 | <mjj29> | danielk22: I'm not sure it is a mythtv-users question, and I've already asked |
| 10:09 | <danielk22> | Try the users mailing list then. It's definately a user question. |
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| 15:32 | <sphery> | gbee: regarding myth.rebuild_database.pl, weren't there plans to create a MythTV "export" format (i.e. an XML file that has the database info)? |
| 15:33 | <sphery> | I'd love to get rid of the (always broken) myth.rebuild_database.pl script (that was never--and probably never will be--updated to use the Perl bindings). |
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| 15:34 | <sphery> | I was considering rewriting it to do it better/use the bindings, but recently I decided that it makes no sense to have a contrib script for myth_find_orphans.pl and I plan to do a patch to put its functionality into Myth proper. Was wondering if the same approach made sense for myth.rebuild_database.pl (import/export functionality in Myth proper). |
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| 15:50 | <clever> | sphery: that sounds like the export that mytharchive puts to dvd |
| 15:50 | <clever> | sphery: ive got a few disks with raw nuv files and xml's explaining the recorded table row it came from |
| 15:51 | <laga> | except that you dont always have that xml file |
| 15:54 | <sphery> | laga: right, we'd still need a user-interactive approach. But, with an official export format, it would be easier to "automate" things as gbee wanted. |
| 15:55 | <gbee> | no idea about the "export" idea, may have been mentioned before but I don't remember |
| 15:56 | <gbee> | I did think that maybe we should be automatically discovering recordings in the directory and adding them to the database without the need for a seperate scripts |
| 15:56 | <gbee> | s/scripts/script/ |
| 15:58 | <gbee> | we can discover them, add them to the database, rebuild the seektable (and in the process find the length/filesize) then just allow users to edit the title/subtitle/description (currently possible to edit the first two) |
| 15:58 | <sphery> | gbee: and, by putting them in a new recording group ("Found Recordings" ;), we could make it easy for end users. |
| 15:59 | <gbee> | I think it's reasonable to assume that any files in that directory/storage group should be included in the database |
| 15:59 | <sphery> | we already have title editing in the playbackbox, so it wouldn't be hard to include subtitle/description. |
| 15:59 | <gbee> | subtitle is there along with the title editing, we just don't have a multi-line text edit yet |
| 16:00 | <gbee> | hence, I believe, why there is no description editing |
| 16:02 | <sphery> | That actually works well with the idea I have to put myth_find_orphans.pl functionality into Myth. We can identify metadata with no associated file and identify files with no associated metadata (myth_find_orphans goes both ways like that, so it has partially overlapping functionality with myth.rebuild_database.pl). By importing new files directly, we make it easy for users to idnetify them. |
| 16:03 | <sphery> | Would a single-line text edit control just scroll? (not great for UI, but functional) |
| 16:04 | <gbee> | sphery: I plan for a multiline text edit in mythui ... but a single line text edit should just scroll to accomodate as much text as you put into it, but without allowing newlines |
| 16:04 | <sphery> | Of course, if MythTV automatically picks up new videos in the recordings storage group directories, users will want similar for MythVideo... :) |
| 16:05 | <gbee> | heh, yeah |
| 16:06 | <sphery> | do descriptions tend to have newlines? They don't here. |
| 16:06 | <gbee> | I'd thread off the process of looking for new files so that it doesn't slow down accessing the list |
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| 16:07 | <sphery> | Yeah... Wondering which thread is best and how often to scan. Housekeeper. Autoexpirer. Only on demand (with a "Video Manager" ;). |
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| 16:27 | <clever> | gbee: about editing the title/subtitle/description |
| 16:27 | <clever> | gbee: it keeps reseting the scroll position after each change |
| 16:28 | <clever> | so it takes longer and longer to scroll back to where you where and keep editing |
| 16:28 | <clever> | and you cant set the description |
| 16:28 | <clever> | ive got half a patch done to solve it |
| 16:28 | <clever> | im saving the title/subtitle/description(and other fields) from program at the end of mfdb(to my new table) |
| 16:28 | <clever> | all i need now is the half to pick a row and stamp its fields over the recording |
| 16:31 | <clever> | only major problem i can see is that this table is ever growing(6mb so far for me) |
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| 16:33 | <clever> | 1966 is the oldest show i have(going by originalairdate) |
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| 19:04 | <gbee> | any chance that the Display Aspect setting can be available even if the system doesn't have dual head/xinerama so that it can be used instead of setting displaysize? |
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| 19:07 | <gbee> | XineramaMonitorAspectRatio |
| 19:19 | <clever> | gbee: you read what i said about fixing the subtitle/description? |
| 19:40 | <gbee> | I have now :) |
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| 19:42 | <gbee> | I've got to say, once you get past the driver issues the TV-out over svideo from this Radeon is much better than what I was getting from a Geforce |
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| 19:44 | <gbee> | so long as you force the resolution down to the correct size anyway (insists on using 1024x768 instead of 720x576, force it to 800x600 and it looks much better |
| 19:49 | <clever> | ive got tvout bearly working on a 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) |
| 19:49 | <clever> | but its unstable |
| 19:49 | <clever> | you need to xrandr a few times while standing on your hands |
| 19:49 | <clever> | before the signal is usable |
| 19:49 | <clever> | and even then the brightness is off the charts |
| 19:49 | <clever> | so its horid looking |
| 19:50 | <clever> | the xorg driver cant tvout on its own |
| 19:50 | <clever> | so i use the atitvout program(which even works from CLI!) |
| 19:50 | <clever> | to force the registers into tvout mode |
| 19:50 | <clever> | but that damages the resolution stuff causing the signal to be useless |
| 19:51 | <clever> | which xrandr seems to fix(cycle the resolution until it works) |
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| 20:16 | <gbee> | clever: this is a Radeon X1250 with the latest Catalyst driver, so a newish model - a ten year old Rage Fury I had never really worked for tv-out under linux but that doesn't suprise me much, it was already an old card before I tried it |
| 20:16 | <clever> | ive only used the tvout on 3 'cards' in linux |
| 20:16 | <clever> | all of them 'work' at one level or another |
| 20:17 | <clever> | theres another card or 2 which have tvout but are agp based |
| 20:17 | <clever> | only system they would fit is theP4 which allready has a nvidia tvout thats works great |
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