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| 11:53 | <iamlindoro__> | Hey, maybe I am doing something wrong, but maybe not-- 17155 added two new includes to upnpcdstv.cpp... "mythtv/storagegroup.h" and "mythtv/util.h".... the explicit definition of the path seems to have broken the build on a fresh checkout, though, as those files only exist in $SOURCEDIR/libs/libmyth... am I doing something silly? |
| 11:55 | <iamlindoro__> | removing the path fixes compilation, btw |
| 11:57 | <iamlindoro__> | ie making the includes a simple "storagegroup.h" and "util.h" |
| 11:57 | <Anduin> | iamlindoro__: I'm fixing it now |
| 11:57 | <iamlindoro__> | ah, ok, wanted to make sure it wasn't just me, thanks :) |
| 11:57 | <Anduin> | (hit it a few minutes ago) |
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| 12:50 | <MrGandalf> | do any of the devs run a slave backend regularily? |
| 12:51 | <GreyFoxx> | I do |
| 12:51 | <GreyFoxx> | in fact at 60+% of my recordings are done by it |
| 12:51 | <MrGandalf> | do you notice a greater level of instability with the slave connected? |
| 12:52 | <GreyFoxx> | In the last few weeks yes. If the slave disconnects from the master then reconnections fail until the master is restarted |
| 12:52 | <GreyFoxx> | But assuming no disconnections it works fine |
| 12:52 | <MrGandalf> | I just connected a slave to my VERY stable master and now the master segfaults 1-2 times daily and never in the same place it seems. |
| 12:52 | <GreyFoxx> | ahhh, that I haven't seen |
| 12:53 | <GreyFoxx> | My slave NEVER has a problem, but my master periodically will stop talking to anything socketwise, but recordings will continue |
| 12:53 | <MrGandalf> | The only thing I can think of is EIT butting heads causing locking and threads having to wait longer than they would normally. |
| 12:53 | <GreyFoxx> | and by periodically I mean maybe once a week |
| 12:54 | <MrGandalf> | I see that behavior as well |
| 12:55 | <MrGandalf> | but my slave is very stable |
| 12:56 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah, my slave has always been rock solid |
| 12:56 | <MrGandalf> | I suppose I'll figure out a way to combine them again. I could track down the bugs but they all seem related to QString. |
| 12:57 | <MrGandalf> | or maybe I can run the master tied to a specific CPU |
| 12:58 | <GreyFoxx> | I've seen a few posts mentioning the socket and thread stuff needing a lot of work |
| 12:58 | <GreyFoxx> | just haven't had much time in the last couple weeks since I first saw it |
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| 12:59 | <janneg> | lol, someone asked on the user ml if I discovered the adapter_nr DVB driver module option through modinfo |
| 12:59 | <beandog> | GreyFoxx, hey thanks for that patch, I managed to morph it into some more stuff and get more annoyances of mine fixed. :) |
| 13:00 | <GreyFoxx> | beandog: cool :) |
| 13:00 | <GreyFoxx> | janneg: heh |
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| 13:01 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: I have occasionally socket lockups, hadn't much time lately for the qt4 port |
| 13:01 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: just answer "yes". |
| 13:02 | <GreyFoxx> | It's funny will Summer coming normally I have moretime available |
| 13:02 | <GreyFoxx> | so far this year less heh |
| 13:02 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: I unfortunately already answered that I wrote the patch |
| 13:02 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: well, the socket issue isn't really bothering me that much. I'm just wondering if others are seeing the slave instability thing |
| 13:03 | <janneg> | I don't have segfaults |
| 13:03 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: but as I said, most look to be related to QString (thread compliant stuff) |
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| 13:04 | <janneg> | hmm, I had hoped there would be less QString issues in Qt4 |
| 13:05 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: I'm still on qt3 |
| 13:05 | <janneg> | I'm writing atm linux driver for the HD PVR |
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| 13:05 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: oh, 0.21-fixes? |
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| 13:07 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: master + slave backend was stable before qt4 for me |
| 13:07 | <GreyFoxx> | same here |
| 13:07 | <GreyFoxx> | I assumed you meant more recent trunk |
| 13:07 | <GreyFoxx> | janneg: really? You got your hands on one ? |
| 13:07 | <GreyFoxx> | the HDPVR looks pretty cool |
| 13:08 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: HDPVR? man, you're my new hero |
| 13:08 | <janneg> | yes, as cool as a bare board can look |
| 13:08 | <GreyFoxx> | janneg: hehe |
| 13:08 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: backend + slave, were you running multiple cores? |
| 13:09 | <janneg> | it has two blue leds, it must be cool |
| 13:10 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: yes, both backends are AMD X2 |
| 13:10 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: and were either of them reaching 100% CPU? |
| 13:12 | <janneg> | no |
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| 13:13 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: that could be my issue then.. eit regularily takes the backend up over 100% |
| 13:14 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: the backend? or backend + mysql? |
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| 13:16 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: the backend only |
| 13:17 | <iamlindoro__> | janneg, if you don't mind my asking, will the device act similar to current Hauppauge ivtv cards, i.e. a cat'able /dev/video node? Also, does adding Myth support look too daunting? Sorry to pepper you with questions. :) |
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| 13:21 | <janneg> | iamlindoro__: yes, it will use the same v4l2 mpeg encoder api as the ivtv cards |
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| 13:21 | <iamlindoro__> | I see, cool! Thanks for the info. |
| 13:22 | <janneg> | please wait spreading the news until I get some code out. |
| 13:22 | <iamlindoro__> | My lips are sealed, was just personal curiosity |
| 13:23 | <janneg> | I hope I'll can release a first version of the driver tuesday or wednesday with a patch adding support to mythtv |
| 13:24 | <MrGandalf> | too late, I already posted to Slashdot.. you have a website I could through in as a link? |
| 13:24 | <iamlindoro__> | That will probably stop me being sheepish about doing "make install" on trunk :) |
| 13:27 | <janneg> | iamlindoro__: it will probably apply to 0.21-fixes too |
| 13:28 | <iamlindoro__> | ah, neat. I'm running something just-pre-qt4, should be fine I imagine |
| 13:31 | <sphery> | iamlindoro__: something like that may actually spawn a 0.21.1 ;) |
| 13:32 | <iamlindoro__> | sphery, Not mention a torrent of mismatched package/repos questions on the users list ;) |
| 13:32 | <bendailey> | ok I came to the channel just a minute to late anyone mind repeating the buzz? |
| 13:33 | <sphery> | wait 'til next Tuesday or Wednesday ;) |
| 13:33 | <bendailey> | I promise to keep it to myself |
| 13:33 | <sphery> | (for the official announcements) |
| 13:33 | <bendailey> | ok I can wait thanks |
| 13:35 | <sphery> | BTW, "next Tues/Wed" may have about a week of extra time built in, so you may not need to wait that long. :) |
| 13:35 | <bendailey> | great |
| 13:36 | <bendailey> | just out of curiosity I saw on the mythtv wiki that the -users chan has an irc log does this chan? |
| 13:36 | <GreyFoxx> | No, not this channel |
| 13:36 | <GreyFoxx> | in general I think we don't want this channel logged |
| 13:36 | <bendailey> | GreyFoxx: thanks |
| 13:36 | <sphery> | nope, but it looks like janneg just posted the same info in -users channel |
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| 14:01 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: did Hauppauge start shipping the HDPVR in the UK earlier than in the US? They're not slated to start shipping here until 5/1. |
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| 14:03 | <janneg> | I don't think so, I have a prototype |
| 14:03 | <MrGandalf> | oh, I see |
| 14:04 | <janneg> | not even sure if they'll ship it in europe soon |
| 14:04 | <MrGandalf> | is the h264 that's generated by the unit supported in libavcodec? |
| 14:05 | <MrGandalf> | ie: is it PAFF interlaced? |
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| 14:07 | <janneg> | it plays fine with current mythtv, but it is interlaced + spatial direct |
| 14:08 | <Lynet> | Is there a particular distro you people would recommend for a dev/build environment? |
| 14:08 | <beandog> | gentoo \o/ |
| 14:08 | <GreyFoxx> | Lynet: try #mythtv-users :) |
| 14:14 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: and it plays fine? intersting. It must be MBAFF interlaced then if it's spatial. |
| 14:14 | <MrGandalf> | avcodec is hurting when it comes to PAFF + spacial. |
| 14:14 | <MrGandalf> | I'll probably just use CoreAVC anyway. |
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| 15:10 | <eharris> | I think I've encountered a endless loop condition in mythtv-backend on a version built from branches/release-0-21-fixes version 16473M. |
| 15:10 | <eharris> | I have strace output. Anybody interested? |
| 15:11 | <gbee> | open a ticket |
| 15:11 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/newticket |
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| 15:33 | <skamithi> | hey gbee. the mythui stuff u've demonstrated looks cool. can't wait to see the final results. |
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| 15:38 | <GreyFoxx> | so, I just noticed something odd. I was watching my backend while adding some recordings in mythweb and everything looked fine.... then I manually did a mythbackend --resched and the number of schedules items jumped a lot |
| 15:38 | <kormoc> | ooh? |
| 15:39 | <GreyFoxx> | http://www.pastebin.ca/1000792 |
| 15:39 | <GreyFoxx> | Check that out |
| 15:39 | <sphery> | mfdb run in between? |
| 15:39 | <GreyFoxx> | nope |
| 15:40 | <GreyFoxx> | mfdb ran maybe 14 hours ago |
| 15:41 | <GreyFoxx> | Actually I see the same thing in my log from yesterday |
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| 15:48 | <sphery> | mythweb is requesting a resched of the new rule for each new rule (as it should), the mythbackend --resched did a "reschedule all", but I can't think of a reason why something would have gotten in but not have been rescheduled. |
| 15:49 | <sphery> | I was thinking either Bruce or David posted to the list with a description of the difference and some "temporary" issues that can affect the results before the next full reschedule, but I can't find it. |
| 15:50 | <kormoc> | didn't they add in a copy the record table before processing on it a short while ago? |
| 15:53 | <sphery> | yeah, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/15566 |
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| 18:29 | <sphery> | Invalid and misplaced discussion in Trac on #5266 is getting really annoying. Everything but David's comment belongs on the -users list. |
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| 18:38 | <gbee> | agreed, I nearly closed it earlier today as "feature request without patch" but decided that it wasn't my place to do so (scheduling is Bruce and David's area) |
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| 18:38 | <gbee> | now that it's been closed by David I will lock it though |
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| 18:39 | <sphery> | Thx :) I sent a response trying to explain some details (to -dev, since that's where the others I sent earlier went). Hope that's enough to appease the users. |
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| 22:40 | <schtinky> | just cracked open mythcommflag and trying to make heads/tails of it. Does a code reference exist? if so, where? |
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| 22:43 | <GreyFoxx> | 2http://www.cuymedia.net/mythtv-trunk/index.html but I don't think it's been updated in a while. And frankly most of the code doesn't have doxygen comments |
| 22:43 | <GreyFoxx> | but the above might be useful |
| 22:44 | <schtinky> | thanks |
| 22:44 | <schtinky> | ugh, I'd give anything if this were in java rather than C (not trying to flame) |
| 22:45 | <schtinky> | or troll I guess is the right term |
| 22:51 | <schtinky> | what is "NuppelVideoPlayer"? |
| 22:52 | <iamlindoro> | MythTV's internal video player |
| 22:52 | <kormoc> | The video playing module. Historically myth used the nuppel video container format, and thus the name and references |
| 22:57 | <schtinky> | trying to use mythcommflag and bypass the database. I need a program_info object. The code creates one with "program_info = ProgramInfo::GetProgramFromRecorded(chanid, starttime);" |
| 22:57 | <schtinky> | all I have is a filename |
| 22:57 | <schtinky> | I could obviously hardcode in program name, duration, etc, but can that even be done? |
| 22:57 | <schtinky> | the programinfo object looks gigantic |
| 22:58 | <kormoc> | Without the Db, where would it put the commercial information? |
| 22:58 | <schtinky> | I tried to get around having a programinfo object, but NVP needs one to do the flagging |
| 22:58 | <schtinky> | I want it to standard out |
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| 23:00 | <schtinky> | in short, I want to get command line functionality such as "mythcommflag --file filename.avi" and get the comm list to pop right back out in standard output |
| 23:00 | <schtinky> | bypassing the database altogether |
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| 23:01 | <GreyFoxx> | why Exactly do you want to bypass the database? |
| 23:01 | <schtinky> | working on a closed captioning commercial detection method |
| 23:01 | <GreyFoxx> | Are you trying to commflag non recordings ? |
| 23:01 | <schtinky> | yes |
| 23:01 | <GreyFoxx> | If you are working on a new detection method you could use the dummy recorder |
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| 23:02 | <schtinky> | what is that exactly |
| 23:02 | <GreyFoxx> | You can specify a dummy tuner, and point it at a mpeg video file and it will stream it just like a recording |
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| 23:02 | <GreyFoxx> | You can make "recordings" from it, "livetv" it etc |
| 23:03 | <schtinky> | arg, I'm not familiar enough with the internals of mythtv to really even understand what you're saying... and I'd rather not become a mythtv expert if I can help it |
| 23:03 | <schtinky> | I'd rather concentrate on the captions algorithm |
| 23:04 | <schtinky> | so I guess I'm looking to bypass the DB and myth |
| 23:04 | <schtinky> | ha ha |
| 23:04 | <GreyFoxx> | I'm trying to understand why do all the work you are doing :) |
| 23:04 | <schtinky> | sure. |
| 23:04 | <GreyFoxx> | Just add 1 fake entry to the recorded table |
| 23:04 | <GreyFoxx> | and then mythcomflagg will treat your file likel a recording |
| 23:04 | <GreyFoxx> | so you can process it over and over and not waste time modifying mythcomflag to bypass the database |
| 23:05 | <schtinky> | where will the results go? |
| 23:05 | <kormoc> | into the database as normal commflags |
| 23:05 | <GreyFoxx> | database, but can be pulled back via the commandline |
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| 23:06 | <schtinky> | why isn't the commflag utility standalone? |
| 23:06 | <GreyFoxx> | Seems to me it mostly is :) |
| 23:06 | <kormoc> | why should it be? |
| 23:06 | <schtinky> | seems like it should be "String result = getCommFlag(filename)" and that's it |
| 23:06 | <GreyFoxx> | It needs like 1 record from the database |
| 23:06 | <kormoc> | schtinky, are you attempting to port it to a non-myth app or something? |
| 23:07 | <schtinky> | yes and no |
| 23:07 | <schtinky> | I have a separate recording system for videos |
| 23:07 | <schtinky> | but it's not a set-top myth-type platform |
| 23:08 | <schtinky> | I'm not with SageTV or anything |
| 23:08 | <schtinky> | and I have some experience with closed captioning logging |
| 23:08 | <kormoc> | you can just import them in as recordings and then put a commflag job into the queue for it and it'd just go |
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| 23:09 | <GreyFoxx> | 1 database record for the file, call commflag, export cut list from the commandline with --getskiplist |
| 23:09 | <schtinky> | was hoping to combine myth's commflag and my own programming (which is in all Java) into something more than the sum of its parts |
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| 23:10 | <schtinky> | well I appreciate your input |
| 23:10 | <kormoc> | g'luck |
| 23:11 | <schtinky> | sorry if I sound stubborn... but I guess the bottom line is I'd like to avoid installing mysql and myth on every box I need to process commercials on |
| 23:11 | <kormoc> | you don't need to install mysql on the boxes |
| 23:11 | <schtinky> | it'd be so much easier to just have the commandline functionality I mentioned above. |
| 23:11 | <kormoc> | mysql's clients can talk to a database over the network |
| 23:12 | <kormoc> | so it's not quite as bad as you think :P |
| 23:12 | <iamlindoro> | I imagine you'd get more specific help if you wanted to detail what it is you're trying to do beyond the very bare minimum (and why) |
| 23:12 | <schtinky> | I work for videogenesis |
| 23:12 | <schtinky> | we do searchable news for local TV stations |
| 23:13 | <kormoc> | iamlindoro, not overly, someone would need to do some work to figure out why exactly mcf requires the db stuff and work around that. |
| 23:13 | <schtinky> | see it in action at wkytarchives.com or news12archives.com |
| 23:13 | <schtinky> | when someone does a search and views a video |
| 23:13 | <schtinky> | I'd like to be able to detect specific stories for them to view immediately instead of having to set their own time ranges |
| 23:13 | <schtinky> | right now when a closed caption is found with a search, it just plays 24 seconds of video starting at the hit |
| 23:14 | <hads> | Cool, is your backend GPL? |
| 23:14 | <schtinky> | wouldnt' it be so much nicer if it could play, say, minutes 17.1-18.4 because the system detected the story automatically |
| 23:15 | <schtinky> | parts are |
| 23:15 | <schtinky> | anyway I figure the first step in story detection |
| 23:15 | <schtinky> | is commercial detection |
| 23:16 | <schtinky> | and I've tried detecting with captions only |
| 23:16 | <schtinky> | and even with highly-predictable local news |
| 23:16 | <schtinky> | it's still not anywhere close |
| 23:17 | <schtinky> | so if I just had a utility to spit out commercial ranges on the command line, I could integrate my work with what already exists |
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| 23:20 | <schtinky> | did I lose everyone? |
| 23:21 | <schtinky> | were my sites that intriguing? |
| 23:21 | <schtinky> | ha |
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| 23:49 | <sphery> | schtinky: did you ever look at comskip--the stand-along commercial flagging utility that was built from a snapshot of mythcommflag that I told you about last time? |
| 23:50 | <sphery> | http://www.kaashoek.com/comskip/ |
| 23:51 | <sphery> | See, also, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/325961#325961 |
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