Back to Home / #mythtv / 2008 / 05 / Prev Day | Next Day
#mythtv IRC Logs for 2008-05-16

---Logopened Fri May 16 00:00:08 2008
00:12-!-bobgill2 [] has joined #mythtv
00:12-!-bobgill2 [] has left #mythtv []
00:25-!-pcglue [] has joined #mythtv
00:30-!-joobie [n=joobie@] has joined #mythtv
00:39-!-kormoc [n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc] has quit []
00:47-!-gnome42 [] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:58-!-dannyobrien [] has joined #mythtv
01:04-!-kormoc [n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc] has joined #mythtv
01:52-!-pcglue [] has quit ["Leaving"]
02:06-!-Loto [n=Loto@xbmc/user/Loto] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
02:08-!-Loto [n=Loto@xbmc/user/Loto] has joined #mythtv
02:34-!-joobie [n=joobie@] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"]
02:46-!-xris [] has quit []
02:55-!-reynaldo [] has quit ["Lost terminal"]
03:00-!-reynaldo [] has joined #mythtv
03:09-!-dekarl [] has joined #mythtv
03:10-!-CrazyFoam [i=gturner@gateway/tor/x-f1b51bfb08320f76] has joined #mythtv
03:23-!-dekar1 [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
03:56-!-siXy [] has joined #mythtv
04:04-!-joobie [n=joobie@] has joined #mythtv
04:07-!-joobie [n=joobie@] has quit [Client Quit]
04:15-!-dannyobrien [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
04:48-!-mzb_d800 [] has quit ["Time to quit"]
04:54-!-mzb_d800 [] has joined #mythtv
04:56-!-MrGandalv [] has joined #mythtv
04:57-!-MrGandalf [] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
05:15-!-Netsplit <-> quits: Daviey, gardz, jarle, j-rod, hads, Loto, kvandivo, MrGandalv
05:17-!-stuarta [n=stuarta@unaffiliated/stuarta] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
05:17-!-stuarta [n=stuarta@] has joined #mythtv
05:17-!-RaYmAn-Bx [] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
05:17-!-RaYmAn-Bx [] has joined #mythtv
05:18-!-Netsplit over, joins: MrGandalv, Loto, jarle, gardz, Daviey, j-rod, hads, kvandivo
05:41<gbee>does anyone think #5369 is a good idea?
05:42<stuarta>my question was, how does it affect video playback
05:42<stuarta>for the menu stuff i've not a problem with it (although 5 times per second is a little slow)
05:44<janneg>well 70Hz is a little bit high given that most displays are either 50 or 60 Hz
05:45<gbee>janneg: yeah, I'm not sure why 70, I really need to ask Chutt
05:45<janneg>why are we repainting if nothing has changed?
05:46<janneg>gbee: it's 70 wakeups/s not necessarily 70 repaints
05:46<gbee>janneg: well that's a good question, we shouldn't be
05:48<gbee>janneg: 70Hz is the current pulse rate, meaning any animation would result in 70 repaints a second - I wonder if this guy is using GANT (alpha pulsing logo)
05:50<janneg>gbee: the alpha pulse is broken
05:52<janneg>with metallurgy still high number of wakeups
05:53<jarle>gbee: ticket updated
05:54<jarle>gbee: compiletype did not seem to make any difference...
05:56<gbee>jarle: oh well
05:56<gbee>janneg: hmm, I'll look at it
06:08-!-czth_ [n=dbrobins@nat/microsoft/x-9f1fa7690c3ea683] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
06:15<gbee>what would "parcel number" be in German?
06:15-!-adante_ [] has joined #mythtv
06:16<gbee>tried that, the result doesn't match anything on this invoice :)
06:17<stuarta>put things in the invoice into babelfish then
06:17*gbee tries everything in reverse
06:17*gbee is slow
06:19-!-CrazyFoam [i=gturner@gateway/tor/x-f1b51bfb08320f76] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
06:19-!-CrazyFoam [i=gturner@gateway/tor/x-65db133a3611906b] has joined #mythtv
06:19<janneg>gbee: paketnummer
06:20<gbee>well I've got Calculation number, Order number, Customer number - but no parcel number
06:20<gbee>think I'll have to contact them :)
06:20<gbee>janneg: thanks
06:21<janneg>calculation number is rechnungsnummer?
06:22<janneg>correct translation would be invoice number
06:22<gbee>ahh, thanks
06:23<janneg> is probably better for one word translations than babelfish
06:23<gbee>maybe I should learn German
06:26<stuarta>babelfish is "approximate" to say the least
06:31-!-adante [] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)]
06:31-!-adante_ is now known as adante
07:02-!-MrGandalv [] has quit ["tgif"]
07:30-!-Pasteurized [] has joined #mythtv
07:30-!-Pasteurized [] has left #mythtv ["WeeChat 0.2.6"]
07:45<rooaus>gbee: I wonder if the repaint interval could be set based on detected display refresh rate? Although the fact it is 70Hz currently makes me suspect I am missing something.
07:46<gbee>we aren't repainting every time, we are just checking whether we need to paint
07:56<rooaus>I wouldn't have thought it was worth polling for a screen update at a greater rate than the display refreshes. Easy enough to test I guess :)
07:57-!-Dave123 [] has quit ["Leaving"]
07:59<gbee>I don't think that will solve the reported issue though
08:03<Dibblah>Everyone knows these powertop people are nuts, right?
08:03<Dibblah>The power difference even on laptop CPUs that support the deeper ACPI states is on the order of .1%.
08:03<gbee>I don't really see a solution
08:04<Dibblah>Desktop CPUs, it makes literally no difference - There is no deep ACPI sleep.
08:04<gbee>we have to poll for changes to ensure we do redraw when required and it's not as though that's a CPU intensive bit of code
08:06<Dibblah>Well, the solution would be not polling (ie a signal/slot for changes). But that is stupid for this use.
08:06<rooaus>Dibblah: I was more thinking about the potential undersampling that may affect smoothness of animations etc.
08:06<gbee>just run powertop on my laptop with mythfrontend running, it's 7% - the nvidia driver causes more wakeups
08:06<Dibblah>useevents true?
08:08<janneg>blame the nvidia driver, it's different with intel or ati open source
08:10<Dibblah>Pretty sure useevents should be on.
08:10<janneg>ideally it should be possible to let the drawing code wait and when somethings requires a repaint it would just wake the painting
08:10<gbee>killed firefox which it claims is the worst offender
08:11<janneg>it would need some throttling
08:12<janneg>but I agree, it's not worth the hassle for the powertop people espicially since mythtv has only limited use while running on batteries
08:13<janneg>except recording tv during a power outtage
08:24-!-Andui1 [] has joined #mythtv
08:39-!-Anduin [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
09:09-!-gbee2 [] has joined #mythtv
09:09-!-gbee [] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
09:09-!-gbee2 is now known as gbee
09:12-!-PointyPumper [i=Pintlezz@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
09:12-!-Cardoe [n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe] has joined #mythtv
09:18-!-danielk_dinner is now known as danielk
09:18-!-danielk is now known as danielk22
09:27-!-Dibblah [] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
09:44-!-jgarvey [] has joined #mythtv
09:54-!-antgel [n=antony@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/antgel] has joined #mythtv
09:58-!-neot [] has joined #mythtv
10:03-!-neot [] has left #mythtv ["Quitte"]
10:13<danielk22>janneg: you around?
10:14<janneg>danielk22: yes
10:18<antgel>hi, i don't know if anyone is using mythtv with windowmaker, but i think /something/ is broken, would appreciate some help to find out where the bug is and raise a report
10:19<antgel>basically, when i run mythfrontend in windowed mode, there is no titlebar by default. if i explicitly enable titlebar in wmaker's "window attributes" menu, it doesn't appear. hence i can't drag it round the screen
10:19<antgel>i also can't drag it with my usual wmaker moving combo that works anywhere in the screen, that is Mod4 (windows key) and right mouse button
10:20<antgel>would appreciate guidance, am using 0.21
10:26-!-Andreaz [] has joined #mythtv
10:32*gbee sighs
10:34-!-jgarvey [] has quit [Connection timed out]
10:34-!-jgarvey_ [] has joined #mythtv
10:35<antgel>gbee: are you sighing at me? do you consider this a question for #mythtv-users? i don't see what users would know about how mythfrontend in windowed mode handles itself wrt various window managers
10:42<gbee>antgel: you were talking to two devs in -users
10:44<gbee>if it's not working with WM then it's a window manager problem, or possibly a user issue
10:46<antgel>gbee: i didn't know who i was talking to. will follow-up in #m-u
10:49-!-Andreaz [] has quit [SendQ exceeded]
10:52-!-mattwire [] has joined #mythtv
10:52-!-mattwire [] has quit [Client Quit]
11:12-!-Chutt [] has joined #mythtv
11:18-!-ttuttle [n=tom@pdpc/supporter/student/gentoo.contributor.ttuttle] has joined #mythtv
11:19-!-gnome42 [] has joined #mythtv
11:23-!-beandog [n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog] has joined #mythtv
11:28-!-MrGandalf [] has joined #mythtv
11:33-!-\S2 [n=s2@] has joined #mythtv
11:33-!-jgarvey_ [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
11:34-!-\S2 is now known as S2
11:36<kormoc>danielk22, Mornin, you working on SD's server?
11:36-!-MaverickTech [] has joined #mythtv
11:41-!-ttuttle [n=tom@pdpc/supporter/student/gentoo.contributor.ttuttle] has left #mythtv []
11:41-!-purserj [] has quit [No route to host]
11:44-!-MavT [] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
11:45-!-jgarvey [] has joined #mythtv
11:46-!-purserj [] has joined #mythtv
11:47<danielk22>kormoc: No, why?
11:48<kormoc>danielk22, never mind (we were running low on space but it's all fixed now)
11:49<danielk22>if you need me to free up space I can.. I can transfer some stuff to my local machine.
11:50<kormoc>We removed a old snapshot or two and it's all golden for now
11:50<Chutt>how long was stuff down for?
11:50<kormoc>Chutt, I honestly can't say, Robert would likely know, but if he doesn't, I can check logs and get a exact number
11:51<danielk22>kormoc: I just freed up a few hundred megs..
11:51<GreyFoxx>30 minutes
11:51<danielk22>I'll compress some stuff to free up more.
11:52<GreyFoxx>first low disk space error was at 8:09am, current time on box is 8:48am
11:52<GreyFoxx>the rsnapshots routinely chewup a lot of space
11:53<Chutt>and nothing was cleaning them up?
11:53-!-Netsplit <-> quits: janneg
11:53<danielk22>yes they appear to be growing geometrically... and they are not bzipped.
11:53<GreyFoxx>xris has tweaked them over time to have less of them around
11:54<GreyFoxx>I tend to go in once a week and make sure logs are rotated and such, and I backup the box to here every morning
11:55<danielk22>actually they are bzipped, tar w/bzip inside.
11:55*kormoc blinks
11:55-!-janneg [] has joined #mythtv
11:55<kormoc>that sorta breaks the point of rsnapshot, cause it's no longer incremental then
11:56<danielk22>kormoc: I'm talking about the DB backup actually..
11:56<danielk22>those chew up a lot of space.. but they are bzipped.
11:58-!-dannyobrien [] has joined #mythtv
11:58*kormoc heads out to an iview
12:03-!-Chutt [] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
12:04-!-S2 [n=s2@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
12:05-!-xris [n=xris@] has joined #mythtv
12:11-!-adc [] has joined #mythtv
12:12-!-renato_ [n=renato@] has quit [Connection timed out]
12:12-!-melunko_ [n=hmelo@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
12:12<adc>hello i have a alphacrypt and a card but unfortunately it doesnt work, there was a tool in the past which i used in order to read information from the cam module does someone know which one this was?
12:12-!-renato_ [n=renato@] has joined #mythtv
12:13-!-melunko_ [n=hmelo@] has joined #mythtv
12:14-!-lsobral [n=sobral@] has quit [Connection timed out]
12:14-!-lsobral [n=sobral@] has joined #mythtv
12:21<gbee>keys on need regenerating
12:22<janneg>Snow-Man: ^^^
12:22<janneg>hmm, no Chutt
12:23<janneg>xris: do you have the necessary rights?
12:24<xris>keys? I think that's a Snow-Man thing.
12:24<xris>I probably have perms, but am not really that familar with things beyond restarting apache, etc.
12:44-!-Netsplit <-> quits: splat1, kormoc, MrGandalf, purserj, GreyFoxx, astinus
12:45-!-Netsplit over, joins: purserj, MrGandalf, kormoc, astinus, GreyFoxx, splat1
12:58-!-PointyPumper [i=Pintlezz@] has joined #mythtv
12:59-!-Netsplit <-> quits: splat1, kormoc, MrGandalf, GreyFoxx, purserj, astinus
13:01-!-purserj [] has joined #mythtv
13:01-!-MrGandalf [] has joined #mythtv
13:01-!-kormoc [n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc] has joined #mythtv
13:01-!-astinus [n=alex@gentoo/developer/astinus] has joined #mythtv
13:01-!-GreyFoxx [] has joined #mythtv
13:01-!-splat1 [] has joined #mythtv
13:05-!-_gunni_ [] has joined #mythtv
13:09-!-purserj [] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
13:10-!-purserj [] has joined #mythtv
13:16-!-robthebob [] has joined #mythtv
13:24-!-siXy [] has quit ["bye!"]
13:27-!-davilla [n=davilla@] has joined #mythtv
13:31-!-antgel_ [] has joined #mythtv
13:34-!-dannyobrien [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
13:35-!-antgel [n=antony@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/antgel] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
13:35-!-antgel_ is now known as antgel
13:38-!-czth [n=dbrobins@nat/microsoft/x-9c6095dcfb91d74e] has joined #mythtv
13:43-!-skamithi [] has joined #mythtv
13:53-!-nsaspook [] has joined #mythtv
14:10-!-davilla is now known as davilla57
14:30-!-dekar1 [] has joined #mythtv
14:38-!-skamithi [] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.6"]
14:47-!-dekarl [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
15:02-!-MrGandalf [] has left #mythtv []
15:11-!-famicom [] has joined #mythtv
15:16-!-adc_ [] has joined #mythtv
15:19-!-jgarvey [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
15:20-!-jgarvey [] has joined #mythtv
15:33-!-adc [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
15:33-!-russellb [n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla] has joined #mythtv
15:34-!-robthebob [] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
15:43-!-dannyobrien [] has joined #mythtv
15:47-!-russellb [n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla] has quit ["leaving"]
15:49-!-thrope [] has joined #mythtv
15:50-!-thrope [] has left #mythtv []
16:04-!-davilla57 is now known as davilla
16:05-!-CrazyFoam [i=gturner@gateway/tor/x-65db133a3611906b] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
16:12-!-turbo [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
16:13-!-turbo [] has joined #mythtv
16:20-!-lsobral [n=sobral@] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
16:20-!-davilla [n=davilla@xbmc/staff/davilla] has quit ["Leaving"]
16:28-!-adante [] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
16:29-!-adante [] has joined #mythtv
16:30-!-turbo [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
16:34-!-turbo [] has joined #mythtv
16:39-!-S2 [] has joined #mythtv
16:41-!-S2 [] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
16:43-!-adc_ [] has quit ["leaving"]
16:45-!-dannyobrien [] has quit [No route to host]
16:47-!-dannyobrien [] has joined #mythtv
16:51-!-melunko_ [n=hmelo@] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
16:59-!-briand [] has joined #mythtv
17:00-!-turbo [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
17:24-!-melunko [n=hmelo@] has joined #mythtv
17:25-!-blanny [] has joined #mythtv
17:28-!-beandog [n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog] has quit ["Leaving"]
17:44-!-melunko [n=hmelo@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
17:49-!-jgarvey [] has quit ["Leaving"]
17:53-!-Chutt [] has joined #mythtv
17:55-!-MrGandalf [] has joined #mythtv
17:58-!-turbo [] has joined #mythtv
18:00-!-briand [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
18:03-!-Cardoe [n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe] has quit ["Leaving"]
18:07-!-czth_ [n=dbrobins@nat/microsoft/x-a8193e5369f463de] has joined #mythtv
18:07-!-purserj [] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
18:07-!-purserj [] has joined #mythtv
18:14<pkendall>janne: are you about?
18:20<janneg>pkendall: I'm about going to bed but I have a moment
18:22<janneg>Chutt: gbee found that some keys on were created by debian's broken openssl package
18:24-!-czth [n=dbrobins@nat/microsoft/x-9c6095dcfb91d74e] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
18:24-!-beandog [n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog] has joined #mythtv
18:30-!-aneiane [] has joined #mythtv
18:34-!-dannyobrien [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
18:35-!-dannyobrien [] has joined #mythtv
18:37-!-briand [] has joined #mythtv
18:38-!-Raids [] has joined #mythtv
18:38-!-turbo [] has quit [Connection timed out]
18:39-!-Raids [] has left #mythtv []
18:46-!-cecil_ [n=cecil@] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
18:46-!-cecil_ [n=cecil@] has joined #mythtv
18:50<pkendall>Ok, sorry I was helping my daughter.
18:51<pkendall>What tim eis it there and I'll wait till you have a better time
18:51<Vaelys>u/win 30
18:55<gbee>pkendall: he'll be in bed now, it's nearly 1am there
18:57<pkendall>Ok, Its saturday morning here in NZ, so I'll keep an eye out tonight for him.
18:59-!-jhulst [n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst] has joined #mythtv
19:02-!-briand [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
19:03-!-briand [] has joined #mythtv
19:03-!-PointyPumper [i=Pintlezz@] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:05-!-PointyPumper [i=Pintlezz@] has joined #mythtv
19:06-!-robthebob [] has joined #mythtv
19:20-!-beandog [n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog] has quit ["Leaving"]
19:25-!-dannyobrien [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
19:30-!-danny [] has joined #mythtv
19:44-!-pkendall [] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies"]
19:47-!-briand [] has quit [Connection timed out]
19:47-!-briand [] has joined #mythtv
19:49-!-danny [] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
19:50-!-xris [n=xris@] has quit []
19:51-!-xris [n=xris@] has joined #mythtv
19:52-!-xris [n=xris@] has quit [Client Quit]
19:52-!-danny [] has joined #mythtv
20:09-!-briand [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
20:10-!-briand [] has joined #mythtv
20:12-!-_gunni_ [] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies"]
20:18-!-xris [] has joined #mythtv
20:36-!-turbo [] has joined #mythtv
20:37-!-briand [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
20:43-!-robthebob [] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
20:47-!-danny [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
21:10-!-hiphophippotamus [] has joined #mythtv
21:16-!-reynaldo_ [n=rverdejo@] has joined #mythtv
21:34-!-reynaldo [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
21:36-!-briand [] has joined #mythtv
21:37-!-turbo [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
21:44-!-pteague [] has joined #mythtv
21:44-!-pteague [] has left #mythtv ["Leaving"]
21:56-!-aneiane [] has left #mythtv []
22:13-!-gardz [] has quit []
22:18-!-_charly_ [] has quit []
22:18-!-_charly_ [] has joined #mythtv
22:36-!-reynaldo_ [n=rverdejo@] has quit ["Lost terminal"]
22:37-!-gardz [] has joined #mythtv
22:46-!-grokky [] has joined #mythtv
23:22-!-gbee [] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:45-!-reynaldo [n=rverdejo@] has joined #mythtv
---Logclosed Sat May 17 00:00:08 2008