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| 05:41 | <gbee> | does anyone think #5369 is a good idea? |
| 05:42 | <stuarta> | my question was, how does it affect video playback |
| 05:42 | <stuarta> | for the menu stuff i've not a problem with it (although 5 times per second is a little slow) |
| 05:44 | <janneg> | well 70Hz is a little bit high given that most displays are either 50 or 60 Hz |
| 05:45 | <gbee> | janneg: yeah, I'm not sure why 70, I really need to ask Chutt |
| 05:45 | <janneg> | why are we repainting if nothing has changed? |
| 05:46 | <janneg> | gbee: it's 70 wakeups/s not necessarily 70 repaints |
| 05:46 | <gbee> | janneg: well that's a good question, we shouldn't be |
| 05:48 | <gbee> | janneg: 70Hz is the current pulse rate, meaning any animation would result in 70 repaints a second - I wonder if this guy is using GANT (alpha pulsing logo) |
| 05:50 | <janneg> | gbee: the alpha pulse is broken |
| 05:52 | <janneg> | with metallurgy still high number of wakeups |
| 05:53 | <jarle> | gbee: ticket updated http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5367 |
| 05:54 | <jarle> | gbee: compiletype did not seem to make any difference... |
| 05:56 | <gbee> | jarle: oh well |
| 05:56 | <gbee> | janneg: hmm, I'll look at it |
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| 06:15 | <gbee> | what would "parcel number" be in German? |
| 06:15 | <stuarta> | babelfish.altavista.com |
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| 06:16 | <gbee> | tried that, the result doesn't match anything on this invoice :) |
| 06:17 | <stuarta> | put things in the invoice into babelfish then |
| 06:17 | * | gbee tries everything in reverse |
| 06:17 | * | gbee is slow |
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| 06:19 | <janneg> | gbee: paketnummer |
| 06:20 | <gbee> | well I've got Calculation number, Order number, Customer number - but no parcel number |
| 06:20 | <gbee> | think I'll have to contact them :) |
| 06:20 | <gbee> | janneg: thanks |
| 06:21 | <janneg> | calculation number is rechnungsnummer? |
| 06:22 | <janneg> | correct translation would be invoice number |
| 06:22 | <gbee> | ahh, thanks |
| 06:23 | <janneg> | http://dict.leo.org is probably better for one word translations than babelfish |
| 06:23 | <gbee> | maybe I should learn German |
| 06:24 | <gbee> | bookmarked |
| 06:26 | <stuarta> | babelfish is "approximate" to say the least |
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| 07:45 | <rooaus> | gbee: I wonder if the repaint interval could be set based on detected display refresh rate? Although the fact it is 70Hz currently makes me suspect I am missing something. |
| 07:46 | <gbee> | we aren't repainting every time, we are just checking whether we need to paint |
| 07:56 | <rooaus> | I wouldn't have thought it was worth polling for a screen update at a greater rate than the display refreshes. Easy enough to test I guess :) |
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| 07:59 | <gbee> | I don't think that will solve the reported issue though |
| 08:01 | <rooaus> | true |
| 08:03 | <Dibblah> | Everyone knows these powertop people are nuts, right? |
| 08:03 | <Dibblah> | The power difference even on laptop CPUs that support the deeper ACPI states is on the order of .1%. |
| 08:03 | <gbee> | I don't really see a solution |
| 08:04 | <Dibblah> | Desktop CPUs, it makes literally no difference - There is no deep ACPI sleep. |
| 08:04 | <gbee> | we have to poll for changes to ensure we do redraw when required and it's not as though that's a CPU intensive bit of code |
| 08:06 | <Dibblah> | Well, the solution would be not polling (ie a signal/slot for changes). But that is stupid for this use. |
| 08:06 | <rooaus> | Dibblah: I was more thinking about the potential undersampling that may affect smoothness of animations etc. |
| 08:06 | <gbee> | just run powertop on my laptop with mythfrontend running, it's 7% - the nvidia driver causes more wakeups |
| 08:06 | <Dibblah> | useevents true? |
| 08:08 | <gbee> | nope |
| 08:08 | <janneg> | blame the nvidia driver, it's different with intel or ati open source |
| 08:10 | <Dibblah> | Pretty sure useevents should be on. |
| 08:10 | <janneg> | ideally it should be possible to let the drawing code wait and when somethings requires a repaint it would just wake the painting |
| 08:10 | <gbee> | killed firefox which it claims is the worst offender |
| 08:11 | <janneg> | it would need some throttling |
| 08:11 | <gbee> | http://pastebin.ca/1019974 |
| 08:12 | <janneg> | but I agree, it's not worth the hassle for the powertop people espicially since mythtv has only limited use while running on batteries |
| 08:13 | <janneg> | except recording tv during a power outtage |
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| 10:13 | <danielk22> | janneg: you around? |
| 10:14 | <janneg> | yes |
| 10:14 | <janneg> | danielk22: yes |
| 10:18 | <antgel> | hi, i don't know if anyone is using mythtv with windowmaker, but i think /something/ is broken, would appreciate some help to find out where the bug is and raise a report |
| 10:19 | <antgel> | basically, when i run mythfrontend in windowed mode, there is no titlebar by default. if i explicitly enable titlebar in wmaker's "window attributes" menu, it doesn't appear. hence i can't drag it round the screen |
| 10:19 | <antgel> | i also can't drag it with my usual wmaker moving combo that works anywhere in the screen, that is Mod4 (windows key) and right mouse button |
| 10:20 | <antgel> | would appreciate guidance, am using 0.21 |
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| 10:35 | <antgel> | gbee: are you sighing at me? do you consider this a question for #mythtv-users? i don't see what users would know about how mythfrontend in windowed mode handles itself wrt various window managers |
| 10:42 | <gbee> | antgel: you were talking to two devs in -users |
| 10:44 | <gbee> | if it's not working with WM then it's a window manager problem, or possibly a user issue |
| 10:46 | <antgel> | gbee: i didn't know who i was talking to. will follow-up in #m-u |
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| 11:15 | <Chutt> | doh |
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| 11:18 | <ttuttle> | Hey. |
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| 11:36 | <kormoc> | danielk22, Mornin, you working on SD's server? |
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| 11:47 | <danielk22> | kormoc: No, why? |
| 11:48 | <kormoc> | danielk22, never mind (we were running low on space but it's all fixed now) |
| 11:49 | <danielk22> | if you need me to free up space I can.. I can transfer some stuff to my local machine. |
| 11:50 | <kormoc> | We removed a old snapshot or two and it's all golden for now |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | how long was stuff down for? |
| 11:50 | <kormoc> | Chutt, I honestly can't say, Robert would likely know, but if he doesn't, I can check logs and get a exact number |
| 11:51 | <danielk22> | kormoc: I just freed up a few hundred megs.. |
| 11:51 | <GreyFoxx> | 30 minutes |
| 11:51 | <danielk22> | I'll compress some stuff to free up more. |
| 11:52 | <GreyFoxx> | first low disk space error was at 8:09am, current time on box is 8:48am |
| 11:52 | <GreyFoxx> | the rsnapshots routinely chewup a lot of space |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | and nothing was cleaning them up? |
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| 11:53 | <danielk22> | yes they appear to be growing geometrically... and they are not bzipped. |
| 11:53 | <GreyFoxx> | xris has tweaked them over time to have less of them around |
| 11:54 | <GreyFoxx> | I tend to go in once a week and make sure logs are rotated and such, and I backup the box to here every morning |
| 11:55 | <danielk22> | actually they are bzipped, tar w/bzip inside. |
| 11:55 | * | kormoc blinks |
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| 11:55 | <kormoc> | that sorta breaks the point of rsnapshot, cause it's no longer incremental then |
| 11:56 | <danielk22> | kormoc: I'm talking about the DB backup actually.. |
| 11:56 | <kormoc> | ahh |
| 11:56 | <kormoc> | gotcha |
| 11:56 | <danielk22> | those chew up a lot of space.. but they are bzipped. |
| 11:57 | <kormoc> | rgr |
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| 12:12 | <adc> | hello i have a alphacrypt and a card but unfortunately it doesnt work, there was a tool in the past which i used in order to read information from the cam module does someone know which one this was? |
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| 12:21 | <gbee> | keys on svn.mythtv.org need regenerating |
| 12:22 | <janneg> | Snow-Man: ^^^ |
| 12:22 | <janneg> | hmm, no Chutt |
| 12:23 | <janneg> | xris: do you have the necessary rights? |
| 12:24 | <xris> | keys? I think that's a Snow-Man thing. |
| 12:24 | <xris> | I probably have perms, but am not really that familar with things beyond restarting apache, etc. |
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| 18:14 | <pkendall> | janne: are you about? |
| 18:17 | <gbee> | janneg: |
| 18:20 | <janneg> | pkendall: I'm about going to bed but I have a moment |
| 18:22 | <janneg> | Chutt: gbee found that some keys on mythtv.org were created by debian's broken openssl package |
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| 18:50 | <pkendall> | Ok, sorry I was helping my daughter. |
| 18:51 | <pkendall> | What tim eis it there and I'll wait till you have a better time |
| 18:51 | <pkendall> | time |
| 18:51 | <Vaelys> | u/win 30 |
| 18:55 | <gbee> | pkendall: he'll be in bed now, it's nearly 1am there |
| 18:56 | <pkendall> | crikey! |
| 18:57 | <pkendall> | Ok, Its saturday morning here in NZ, so I'll keep an eye out tonight for him. |
| 18:57 | <pkendall> | Thanks. |
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