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02:03 | <sphery> | s/b c |
02:27 | <xris> | grumble. someone with satellite or something with US channels is submitting bogus callsigns to services.mytht |
02:29 | <xris> | good thing I wrote that "block" function in. blocks the IP for 30 days and wipes out all submissions. |
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02:30 | <clever> | nice |
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02:47 | <xris> | need to rethink how all of this is done, though |
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03:18 | <clever> | yeah the alpha version of some code can get real ugly |
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06:26 | <stuarta> | janneg: just looking at your patch to create no_capturecards() from yesterday |
06:27 | <stuarta> | wouldn't SELECT count(cardid)... be more correct? |
06:30 | <janneg> | stuarta: already committed a different version |
06:30 | <stuarta> | k |
06:31 | <janneg> | COUNT(cardid) wouldn't be correct since cardid could be larger as COUNT(cardid) |
06:32 | <stuarta> | i thought you were trying to work out the number of cards, obviously not |
06:33 | <janneg> | yes, I'm using know the number of cards |
06:34 | <stuarta> | maybe i should just read what was committed :) |
06:35 | <janneg> | stuarta: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/17399 |
06:36 | <stuarta> | cheers |
06:36 | <janneg> | after committing first the patch |
06:37 | <stuarta> | nice |
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06:44 | <gbee> | janneg: I forgot to record a sample of ITV last night, I'll schedule it for today but I'm guessing that you'll be busy with linuxtag for the next few days |
06:45 | <gbee> | I may take a shot at patching it myself |
06:48 | <stuarta> | enjoying freesat? |
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06:53 | <gbee> | stuarta: hmm, undecided at the moment |
06:54 | <gbee> | EIT only covers the 'Freesat' channels, not the dozens of other FTA channels, which is understandable but disappointing because they become unusable for scheduling |
06:54 | <gbee> | having said that, there really isn't much worth getting excited about in the channels not currently under FreeSat |
06:55 | <gbee> | I'd be happy if I could get BBC HD - but signal issues are so far preventing an error free stream |
06:55 | <stuarta> | :( |
06:55 | <gbee> | just ordered a bigger dish to try and fix that |
06:55 | <stuarta> | well at least you can make sure the error handling works... |
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06:56 | <gbee> | stuarta: it doesn't :) frontend crashes within seconds |
06:56 | <stuarta> | :( |
06:57 | <gbee> | I need to get a backtrace when I find a moment |
06:57 | <gbee> | no ITV HD because of their h.222 obfuscation |
06:57 | <stuarta> | and it's actually h264? |
06:58 | <gbee> | only other HD channel is Luxe TV HD - which is interesting for about 5 minutes |
06:58 | <gbee> | stuarta: yep, think it's a deliberate attempt to prevent Sky HD boxes tuning it |
06:58 | <stuarta> | ah, that makes sense. |
06:58 | <gbee> | but it might also just be a temporary measure until the official launch - we'll see |
06:58 | <stuarta> | itv would still be a ftv channel on sky, not fta |
06:59 | <stuarta> | i'm guessing it'll sort itself out once itv goes properly fta |
07:28 | <stuarta> | noticed argos doing a freesat box for about 40 quid |
07:31 | <gbee> | not bad considering the initial prices of Freeview boxes and the price of Sky subs/boxes |
07:34 | <stuarta> | doubt it does HD however |
07:35 | <stuarta> | biab, shopping |
07:37 | <gbee> | thought all Freesat boxes had to support h.264 - seems like they would be undermining themselves otherwise, HD is their biggest selling point |
07:42 | <gbee> | way too many people who are lazy when picking/submitting icons - they choose the first one in the list whether it's the right one or not |
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09:16 | <clever> | gbee: you could make it a bit of a voting system |
09:17 | <clever> | allow the same thing to be submited 5 times |
09:17 | <clever> | and then automaticaly pick the data that comes up the most |
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09:26 | <gbee> | clever: eventually we hope to have something like that, although with much higher thresholds, but from what I'm seeing it wouldn't work |
09:26 | <gbee> | there are 'wrong' icons with double the submissions of the correct ones |
09:28 | <clever> | lol |
09:28 | <gbee> | it would have to work by only approving icons automatically where no other icons have been submitted for the same channel more than 5/6 times |
09:28 | <clever> | it could show the top 10 icons chosen for the channel |
09:28 | <clever> | and let an approved helper pick the correct one |
09:29 | <clever> | same for other fields |
09:29 | <gbee> | so if Ax15,bx3,cx2 then A would be approved, but Ax15,bx5,cx2 then it would have to be moderated |
09:29 | <gbee> | clever: that's how it already works |
09:29 | <clever> | ahh |
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09:31 | <gbee> | but with hundreds of channels per country/network we've got a major backlog, which is where we need an automatic threshold for approval |
09:31 | <gbee> | a few icons are slipping through the net and racking up 100x submissions before they are noticed |
09:32 | <gbee> | janneg: http://www.miffteevee.co.uk/filebin/itv1_sample.mpg |
09:33 | <gbee> | janneg: I'm not sure there is anything but an audio stream in that sample, I'll try in the evening to see if I get a different result |
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09:41 | <gbee> | janneg: ITV HD is on Eurobird 1, not Astra so you may be able to receive it? |
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09:46 | * | stuarta goes to look for icons to approve |
10:03 | <gbee> | spent a couple of hours on it the other night, at least the DVB matches |
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11:12 | <janneg> | gbee: I won't receive it without satellite dish |
11:18 | <gbee> | janneg: good point :) |
11:20 | <gbee> | recording from ITV HD might be problematic, from what I've read they don't intend providing any EIT data, instead it will be accessed from MHEG - when a HD version of a programme is being shown you'll be invited to 'Press Red' to switch from the SD version to the HD version |
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12:17 | * | stuarta ponders how to make the OSD scroll to show all program info |
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12:55 | <gbee> | convert it to mythui :) |
12:56 | <gbee> | not that I've got myth scrolling textarea patch working properly yet ... |
13:02 | <stuarta> | probably the best way |
13:02 | <stuarta> | wouldn't bother without doing that first |
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13:45 | <gbee> | more 4+1 and film 4+1 are FTA, but aren't included in Freesat like Film 4 and More 4 ... no EIT data available |
13:46 | <gbee> | same applies to another of the film channels, the +1 version doesn't have EIT |
13:58 | <janneg> | room to install a dish is a criterion for the new flat though |
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14:03 | <stuarta> | gbee: probably to be consistent with the channels available on dvb-t |
14:04 | <gbee> | maybe, or they didn't want to pay the EPG fee for those channels - xmltv covers them so it's not really a problem |
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14:08 | <gnome42> | http://pastebin.ca/1030202 Does that sound too harsh? |
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14:24 | <laga> | yay. danielk made it to heise. http://www.heise.de/newsticker/LinuxMCE-auf-dem-LinuxTag--/meldung/108479 |
14:24 | <laga> | warning, german content: ) |
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15:41 | <genuser> | hello people. |
15:41 | <genuser> | I a not sure how to go about finding out the driver for my tv card. |
15:42 | <stuarta> | start by reading the topic |
15:42 | <genuser> | stuarta: I just got PM'd. goin to mythtv-users rigth now. sorry. |
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17:02 | <caledfwlch> | I've been using the Freesat EIT patch provided in Ticket 5365. I know the tables aren't complete and have a progam that detects cases where the decoding fails. I'd like to contact the author (David Matthews) to see if the data would be useful, but don't know how. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks. |
17:02 | <stuarta> | patches would also be appreciated |
17:03 | <stuarta> | alternatively just email the -dev list |
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17:12 | <caledfwlch> | The program currently only detects where there is a problem. I'm not sure how the author determines the correct character for the bit stream. I can currently work some of them out by hand but it's a bit slow. |
17:12 | <stuarta> | that appears to be how he is doing it |
17:14 | <caledfwlch> | Oh, OK I was hoping there would be a better way. I'll wait until I have as many as I can work out and then provide a patch. |
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17:28 | <gbee> | I'll be committing the first version of the patch in the next couple of days, but updates will be welcome after that |
17:29 | <gbee> | FYI I'll probably combine the two tables in one file |
17:29 | <gbee> | instead of the two seperate files for each table as we have now |
17:30 | * | gbee goes back to watching TV |
17:30 | * | stuarta updates his mythvideo database |
17:30 | <stuarta> | i really wish there was a sed command in sql |
17:31 | <xris> | heh |
17:31 | <xris> | I miss regex-based replace in mysql. |
17:31 | <xris> | no idea why they've never added it. |
17:31 | <stuarta> | i mean all i need to do is s,/data/video,/myth/video, |
17:32 | <xris> | oh.. str_replace() :) |
17:32 | <xris> | or something like that.. it *does* have a static-strng replacement function |
17:32 | <janneg> | I use mysqldump | sed | mysql |
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17:33 | <stuarta> | alternatively it's an update with an ~= field |
17:34 | * | stuarta tries some |
17:34 | <hads> | REPLACE(field, 'search', 'replace') |
17:34 | <hads> | (in an update) |
17:34 | <stuarta> | hmmm |
17:34 | <xris> | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/string-functions.html#function_replace |
17:35 | <stuarta> | i need a bit more jiggery pokery as the files have 2 path references. |
17:35 | * | stuarta hacks it |
17:35 | <hads> | janneg's way might be easiest. |
17:38 | <stuarta> | nah, got it sussed now |
17:39 | <stuarta> | temp table, copy off the old records, REPLACE(), update old table from metadata in temp table; |
17:39 | <stuarta> | job done :) |
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17:56 | <sphery> | Heh, I'm currently working on the new-host-restore (#23.15) for the backup script for #4760 and am trying to figure out a (Perl) regex to make sure that we don't replace too much if the user picks a bad hostname. Might just include a hidden "your subst here" for general-purpose fixes on restore. :) |
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