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| 04:41 | <stuarta> | gbee: card has arrived :) |
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| 05:30 | <okolsi> | hi all.. am I correct when saying that there is no 'oldrecord' DB-table? |
| 05:31 | <okolsi> | MythWeb Program.php updates values in that table.. which leads to an error.. Program.php should be updating 'oldrecorded' instead..? |
| 05:31 | <okolsi> | I'm not 100% sure about this since I'm running MythWeb TRUNK against 0.21-fixes backend/frontend |
| 05:32 | <anykey_> | okolsi: you just gave the answer to your question... |
| 05:33 | <hads> | okolsi: That's not supported and won't work. |
| 05:33 | <janneg> | no, there is no oldrecord table |
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| 05:35 | <janneg> | and I would assume that oldrecorded was meant since that is the only table with a column 'reactivate' |
| 05:37 | <okolsi> | this particular piece of code was introduced in [17583] |
| 05:40 | <janneg> | file a ticket, mention only the table names and the changeset |
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| 05:42 | <janneg> | I've just deleted ticket #5544. there was no readable description and it had an attachment with a binary file, a ar archive |
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| 05:56 | <gbee> | stuarta: cool |
| 05:57 | <stuarta> | i'm now suffering the agonizing wait of being in the office all day :( |
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| 06:23 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5543 - wasn't that fixed a year ago? |
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| 06:40 | <Dibblah> | Is it trac week again? So soon? ;) |
| 06:42 | <Dibblah> | gbee: AFAIR, no. The issue that was fixed was that "off" channels never ended up being recorded, because at the time of the tune, they didn't have valid audio / video PIDs, just the MHEG data stream. |
| 06:44 | <gbee> | hmm, would have sworn that the MHEG banner remaining on screen was also fixed |
| 06:45 | * | Dibblah votes for a "report an error to Trac" button in the FE ;) |
| 06:46 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/11598 |
| 06:46 | <Dibblah> | Opens a ticket with full BT (if available), SVN version / patch status / hardware / ... :) |
| 06:46 | <gbee> | seems like a regression |
| 06:48 | <Dibblah> | Yup. Full -v most logs on the backend should track it down, though. |
| 06:48 | <Dibblah> | Hmmm. It's a frontend issue. |
| 06:48 | <Dibblah> | A sample recording would do, then, I guess. |
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| 08:52 | <anny__> | hello all |
| 08:53 | <anny__> | i'm exploring the source code for mythtv-0.21 |
| 08:53 | <anny__> | can someone point out |
| 08:53 | <anny__> | what gui technology is driven the front end |
| 08:53 | <anny__> | is it QT or custom made |
| 08:53 | <anny__> | like someone point out earlier in this room |
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| 09:00 | <gbee> | 0.21 it's part custom, part QT, mostly custom - but that's the old UI code which is being replaced in 0.22 with a completely custom library |
| 09:02 | <gbee> | old UI code is all over the place, but libmyth/uitypes.*,libmyth/mythdialogs.*,libmyth/uilistbuttonttype.*,libmyth/virtualkeyboard.* and the list goes on |
| 09:02 | <gbee> | new stuff is in libmythui but although present in 0.21, it's changed a bit in trunk |
| 09:13 | <anny__> | thx gbee, I'm inspecting now the MythUIType class |
| 09:13 | <anny__> | which I suspect is the base class for widgets |
| 09:13 | <anny__> | in libmythui |
| 09:13 | <gbee> | correct |
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| 09:24 | <anny__> | the MythPainter interface is responsible for the actual drawing and has 2 implementations either OpenGl or Qt-based |
| 09:24 | <anny__> | now i c |
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| 09:27 | <gbee> | yes |
| 09:28 | <gbee> | GL painter is faster and for that reason supports animation |
| 09:28 | <anny__> | of course |
| 09:28 | <anny__> | so eventually i presume |
| 09:29 | <anny__> | everything will be gl based |
| 09:29 | <anny__> | by the way, the programming design of the application is neat |
| 09:30 | <gbee> | we'll keep the QT painter for systems which don't support hardware opengl, but effects such as animation are disabled with the QT painter |
| 09:30 | <anny__> | = professional :) |
| 09:31 | <gbee> | well thanks, credit goes to Isaac for the original work and design |
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| 09:34 | <laga> | danielk22: have you had a chance to play with the packaging for trunk? |
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| 09:46 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5544 - ticket of the year |
| 09:47 | <gbee> | "Problem with Visualisations" - "Serious problem" |
| 09:47 | <gbee> | turns out to be spam |
| 09:47 | <laga> | heh, yeah |
| 09:48 | <laga> | that's weird spam, tho? |
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| 09:48 | <gbee> | very weird, since the subject made sense (albeit in Spanish) |
| 09:49 | <gbee> | but the attachment was a bunch of product keys for some application |
| 09:49 | <laga> | maybe he attached some "serialz" instead of his bug report |
| 09:49 | <gbee> | possibly, I deleted it anyway |
| 09:50 | <gbee> | next time I'll just delete the attachment and ask for more information (if it happens again) |
| 09:50 | <gbee> | given the spam earlier today I might have been a little rash |
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| 10:04 | <gbee> | switching views in mythvideo now works, I just need to let it remember the position in the tree on a switch |
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| 10:05 | <janneg> | gbee: I was going to delete it too since I suspected a similar attachment as in the #5544 I deleted earlier |
| 10:07 | <gbee> | still seems dodgy to me, the guy CC'd someone else, didn't give a description of the problem, attached product keys - looked more like an exchange of information between two software pirates than a bug report |
| 10:09 | * | laga wonders if occam's razor also applies to idiocy |
| 10:12 | <gbee> | heh, well you are probably right laga, he just submitted a bad report and attached the wrong file |
| 10:12 | <gbee> | my conspiracy theory was more interesting though ;) |
| 10:14 | <gbee> | aside from a couple of alignment issues, this is a reasonable facsimile of the mythvideo browse mode, no? http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/mythui_mythvideo2.png |
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| 12:41 | <MrGandalf> | so, I thought I'd take a look at the slider position now showing >1 second for the first 50 seconds or so.. Odd, livetvchain->GetLengthAtCurPos() returns -50 when playback starts |
| 12:44 | <MrGandalf> | which is exactly how far off my frontend clock is from my recording backend. |
| 12:44 | <MrGandalf> | <gee> |
| 12:44 | <laga> | ouch |
| 12:45 | <MrGandalf> | so, I suppose it's a requirement now to have the frontend and backend exactly sync'ed? |
| 12:53 | <Anduin> | gbee: Yes, looks like the old one, also looks like plot description has focus? |
| 12:54 | <gbee> | Anduin: no it doesn't (yet), that's just a random character in the IMDB data |
| 12:55 | <gbee> | but scrollable text areas are on 'the list', so in theory the plot area could take focus scroll |
| 12:56 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: does sync'ing the clock fix it? |
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| 13:18 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: it fixes GetLengthAtCurPos(), yes, but I can't test more than that remotely. |
| 13:19 | <MrGandalf> | in thinking of a fix, it could be messy |
| 13:19 | <gbee> | :( |
| 13:20 | <gbee> | I've seen the problem before, but normally my machines are fairly closely sync'd so I'm suprised |
| 13:21 | <MrGandalf> | Well, I run ntp but I also run my own dvbdate on the backend so I suppose there are times when it can get out of sync |
| 13:21 | <MrGandalf> | I suspect it throws off seeking as well |
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| 13:32 | <CDev> | hum... just reading up on qt4 and noticed the following about threading and SQL support. |
| 13:32 | <CDev> | "A connection can only be used from within the thread that created it. Moving connections between threads or creating queries from a different thread is not supported." |
| 13:33 | <CDev> | How do we handle making sure we only use a connection that was created in our own thread if we use the connection pool? |
| 13:47 | <janneg> | per thread connection pools but that sucks |
| 13:48 | <janneg> | or checking if it is just not supported or if it doesn't work |
| 13:49 | <CDev> | Looking through the code, I don't see a per-thread connection pool. |
| 13:50 | <CDev> | I could be missing it... Would have to look closer. |
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| 13:57 | <gbee> | could we not attach a thread id to the connections in the pool? If a connection doesn't exist for the calling thread then create one? |
| 13:58 | <gbee> | I've never looked at the connection pool code, so I could just be talking complete nonsense |
| 13:59 | <CDev> | I was just suprised to see that limitation in the qt documentation. I'm not sure if what we do is a problem, or needs to change. Just thought I would bring it up. |
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| 15:24 | <laga> | hum. how can i currently get recordings from the backend? streaming via myth protocol of course, but i think there is also a way to request files over http using the backend |
| 15:24 | <laga> | i'm wondering how to make mytharchive more network transparent |
| 15:25 | <gbee> | whoops, forgot that signals aren't queued by default |
| 15:27 | <GreyFoxx> | http://backend:6544/MythXML/GetRecording?ChanId=XXX&StartTime=YYYY |
| 15:27 | <CDev> | beat me to it :) |
| 15:27 | * | laga hugs GreyFoxx |
| 15:27 | <laga> | and CDev ;) |
| 15:27 | <GreyFoxx> | You can get GetRecorded to get the list of recordings |
| 15:27 | <GreyFoxx> | heh |
| 15:28 | <GreyFoxx> | Laga: Check out the MythXMLTest stuff in contrib |
| 15:28 | <GreyFoxx> | very handy |
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| 15:29 | * | GreyFoxx is writing a provisioning system <-> voip cluster configuration gateway. My brain hurts :) |
| 15:30 | <stuarta> | i'm not surprised |
| 15:31 | <laga> | GetRecorded doesn't seem to work for me. is it supposed to work on -fixes? |
| 15:31 | <GreyFoxx> | the two systems were developed independantly and It's like pulling teeth getting each side to agree on what data means what |
| 15:31 | <laga> | o |
| 15:31 | <laga> | never mind. i need to click stuff. |
| 15:31 | <GreyFoxx> | It returns and xml list I believe :) |
| 15:34 | <laga> | hum |
| 15:34 | <laga> | GetRecording seems to take a while.. |
| 15:34 | <laga> | http://screwless:6544/MythXML/GetRecording?ChanId=56103&StartTime=2008-07-15T19:58:00 - does that looks correct? |
| 15:35 | <GreyFoxx> | looks about right, not in a position to test right now though |
| 15:36 | <laga> | MythXMLTest looks incredibly handy. |
| 15:36 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah |
| 15:36 | <laga> | it should be a breeze to make mytharchive more useful that way |
| 15:37 | <laga> | hum |
| 15:37 | <laga> | i probably killed my backend :) |
| 15:37 | <GreyFoxx> | I certainly hope not, if so then that needs to be fixed ;) |
| 15:38 | <laga> | heh |
| 15:38 | <laga> | it's chewing on 100% CPU |
| 15:38 | <GreyFoxx> | Wow, just from tjhe GetRecorded or GetRecording ? |
| 15:38 | <laga> | it's still filling up the log file with recording related stuff.. |
| 15:39 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: it seems it stopped responding when i did the GetRecording |
| 15:39 | <laga> | let me restart the BE |
| 15:43 | <laga> | yes, GetRecording seems to kill it. |
| 15:43 | <GreyFoxx> | hmmm |
| 15:44 | <laga> | is this upnp stuff? i wonder what verbosity switch i need to use |
| 15:44 | <GreyFoxx> | yes |
| 15:44 | <GreyFoxx> | -v upnp |
| 15:44 | <GreyFoxx> | Just checking my home sutff now to see if the wife is watching something from the backend before I try it :) |
| 15:45 | <laga> | 2008-07-15 21:45:40.619 MythXML::GetRecording - GetProgramFromRecorded( 56621, 2008-07-15T18:37:34 ) returned NULL |
| 15:45 | <laga> | 2008-07-15 21:45:41.795 HTTPRequest::SendResponse(xml/html) () :404 Not Found -> 192.168.0.137: 2 |
| 15:45 | <laga> | okay, i probably got something wrong |
| 15:45 | <laga> | and it's not gone to 100% now |
| 15:46 | <GreyFoxx> | hmmmm I'd love to know what triggered it |
| 15:47 | <laga> | i wonder if it's related to the logging |
| 15:47 | <GreyFoxx> | If anything it should log more detailed info |
| 15:49 | <GreyFoxx> | hmmmm ok it worked as a POST using the GetRecording methd in MythXMLTest |
| 15:50 | <GreyFoxx> | but 404 when calling directly from a browser |
| 15:50 | <gbee> | I'll lay money it's the same old BufferedSocket bug |
| 15:50 | <laga> | i can't reproduce it now.. maybe it was related to the recording that was going on. i don't have enough data to tell for sure |
| 15:51 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: how do you do that? |
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| 15:51 | <laga> | i only see "todo: describe FORM post" |
| 15:51 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: i'll keep an eye on the 100% issue |
| 15:51 | <gbee> | matches the symptoms of that bug, including the inability to reproduce through certain actions |
| 15:51 | <GreyFoxx> | When I click on "Media Retrieval -> GetRecording" |
| 15:51 | <GreyFoxx> | I just enter a starttime and chanid |
| 15:54 | <laga> | back to 100% |
| 15:54 | <laga> | :( |
| 15:54 | <GreyFoxx> | Using the XMLTest tool ? |
| 15:54 | <laga> | yes |
| 15:54 | * | GreyFoxx fires off another and lets it run for a minute |
| 15:55 | <CDev> | Are you using fixes or trunk |
| 15:55 | <laga> | it's not always reproduicble here. |
| 15:55 | <laga> | fixes. |
| 15:55 | <GreyFoxx> | Hmmm not using 100% here (trunk from 2 weeks ago) |
| 15:56 | <GreyFoxx> | But I find it odd that using a GET returns 404, but a POST works fine |
| 15:57 | <gbee> | depends on system speed and other factors as to how easy it is to reproduce |
| 15:58 | <laga> | okay, GetRecorded seems to have triggered it now. |
| 15:59 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: so, the GetRecording stuff in MythXML works for you? |
| 15:59 | <laga> | i always seem to get a 404 |
| 15:59 | <GreyFoxx> | laga: yeah |
| 15:59 | <gbee> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5529 http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4669 http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4350 |
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| 16:00 | <laga> | interesting. |
| 16:00 | <laga> | i wonder if that also causes those "100% CPU usage with UPnP" problems |
| 16:00 | <gbee> | there are probably more, they all describe the same problem, gdb always points at a loop in BufferedSocketDevice, but no-one had any ideas when it was looked at six months ago |
| 16:02 | <gbee> | I was looking at it, without success, until we fixed mythweb always re-requesting previews which was the most common trigger of the problem |
| 16:03 | <laga> | i wonder if those "lost requests" mentioned in buffereddevice.cpp are related |
| 16:03 | <laga> | err, bufferedsocketdevice.cpp |
| 16:04 | <gbee> | laga: iirc that's what I was looking at and I even had a patch, but this was just days before the 0.21 launch and once we had a solution which avoided the bug I had other things to work on so it was lost in the sands of time |
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| 16:06 | <gbee> | laga: try uncommenting that block and see if it makes any difference |
| 16:07 | <laga> | good idea. that's something for tomorrow, i've rebuilt myth too many times tonight ;) |
| 16:14 | <gbee> | I was wondering the other day whether BSD was a workaround for a QT bug or similar that QT4 resolves? CDev? |
| 16:15 | <gbee> | since getting rid of it would a nice easy solution ;) |
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| 16:30 | <CDev> | gbee: The bufferedsocketdevice class was created to allow for line processing of a QSocketDevice (doesn't require an event queue) . I copied the code from the QSocket class (at least I think that was the class...) |
| 16:31 | <gbee> | ahh, ok |
| 16:31 | <CDev> | With non-gui event queues now available. This code can, and will be, re-written to use standard qt classes. |
| 16:34 | * | gnome42 points to the patch on #5268 for one source of the backend pegging cpu at 100% (especially during previews) |
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| 16:46 | <MrGandalf> | hmm, first segfault in weeks from mythbackend and it's in QMutex::lock(). |
| 16:46 | <MrGandalf> | (Qt3) |
| 16:47 | <gbee> | my QT4 backend has gone down a couple of times in the last month, before that it was up for months |
| 16:48 | <MrGandalf> | I've finally found the secret to stability. |
| 16:48 | <MrGandalf> | mine's only been stable for maybe 2 months now. |
| 16:49 | <MrGandalf> | though I still get a lockup in the scheduler somewhere while trying to lock reclist_lock |
| 16:49 | <MrGandalf> | I added a whole bunch of debugging - now I'm just waiting for it to happen again. |
| 16:51 | <gbee> | wish I'd kept a series or two back from earlier in the year, nothing on at the moment and there is nothing in my recordings list that I want to watch :( |
| 16:56 | <gnome42> | gbee: Yeah, nothing on but ... Jeopardy :) |
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| 16:57 | <gnome42> | BTW: thanks for the heads up about the scheddirect coupon. It worked great! |
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| 17:21 | * | stuarta does the happy dance |
| 17:21 | <stuarta> | gbee: card is working a treat |
| 17:21 | <gbee> | great :) BBC HD? |
| 17:22 | <stuarta> | dunno, haven't got the cpu for it |
| 17:22 | <stuarta> | i'll try it anyway |
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| 17:22 | <gbee> | well you've always got the crappy porn ;) |
| 17:25 | <stuarta> | heh |
| 17:25 | <stuarta> | lots of promo channels so far |
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| 17:40 | <gbee> | there is a lot of rubbish and regional programming, once you'd weeded all that out it doesn't offer much more than Freeview but I expect things will improve |
| 17:44 | <stuarta> | i'm not fussed. i just want to work on improving setup & EIT |
| 17:44 | <kormoc> | Heh, I'm running out of mythweb stuff :P |
| 17:45 | <stuarta> | ooo i can watch stuff in welsh :) |
| 17:46 | <gbee> | kormoc: what's your C++ like? ;) |
| 17:46 | <kormoc> | non-existant! :) |
| 17:46 | <janneg> | kormoc: have you already fixed the oldrecord vs oldrecorded stuff |
| 17:46 | <kormoc> | janneg, haven't heard of it? |
| 17:47 | <janneg> | [17583] use oldrecord but there is no such table |
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| 17:47 | <janneg> | you probably wanted oldrecorded |
| 17:48 | <kormoc> | oh bloody hells, aye! |
| 17:48 | <janneg> | okolsi: hi, you joined in the perfect moment |
| 17:48 | <kormoc> | teach me to test before expanding |
| 17:48 | <janneg> | I told kormoc just about the oldrecord error in [17583] |
| 17:48 | <gbee> | kormoc: is the timezone pixmap bug fixed yet? :) |
| 17:50 | <kormoc> | janneg, okolsi, [17809] |
| 17:50 | <stuarta> | we aren't pulling in any default authority descriptor from freesat |
| 17:50 | <kormoc> | gbee, heh, not yet, waiting for that to get pushed to trunk first :) |
| 17:50 | <gbee> | nope |
| 17:51 | <gbee> | stuarta: meant to mention that, but guess I forgot |
| 17:51 | <kormoc> | gbee, I do keep meaning to hop on a few smaller c++ stuff, I know c fairly well, it's mainly just qt that's been giving me headaches attempting to figure out :) |
| 17:53 | <stuarta> | hmmm, i thought we had EIT working on freesat |
| 17:53 | <gbee> | I actually liked QT having done a lot of work with PHP, dunno why ... |
| 17:53 | <gbee> | stuarta: we do? at least for Freesat channels, FTA channels which are not part of the Freesat lineup only have now/next data |
| 17:54 | <gbee> | which oddly includes some of the C4/E4/More4 +1 channels |
| 17:55 | <kormoc> | I think most of the stuff is all the weird extra stuff I'll never use, but I'm reading bout |
| 17:55 | <stuarta> | hmmmm |
| 17:55 | <gbee> | kormoc: yeah, might be easier to just get stuck in and learn as you do along |
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| 17:56 | <kormoc> | I should rig up a vm so I can test without killing my main install |
| 17:57 | <stuarta> | ah crap. i've overwritten the log file from the dvb-s scan |
| 17:57 | <stuarta> | i wanted to analyze it :( |
| 17:58 | <gbee> | QT puts a prettier face on a lot of ugliness in C/C++ and STL, but the biggest plus for me is the excellant documentation which I suppose it shares with PHP |
| 17:58 | * | stuarta heads to bed |
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| 18:10 | <sphery> | gbee: regarding your MythWeb-preview-timezone bug, kormoc's comment "waiting for that to get pushed to trunk first" was talking about http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5319#comment:4 . (Though when I return home, I'll be finishing up the have frontends/slave backends require proper timezone patch that would go with it. I'm leaving the MythWeb stuff for him, though.) |
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| 18:10 | <janneg> | kormoc: thanks |
| 18:10 | <gbee> | sphery: ok, thanks for that |
| 18:11 | <sphery> | yeah, the length of the comments on that probably means he may be waiting a while (as no one is going to want to figure out what I was trying to say :) |
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| 18:14 | <gbee> | lost track of whether that fixes the bug I had in mind, where recordings created during BST (DST) done get pixmaps in mythweb because it requests the time one hour off |
| 18:14 | <kormoc> | heh, yeah |
| 18:14 | <kormoc> | hrm |
| 18:14 | <gbee> | s/done/don't/ |
| 18:15 | <sphery> | pretty sure your bug happened because one machine was set to BST and one to GMT (or something). |
| 18:15 | <gbee> | nope, I know that wasn't the case |
| 18:15 | <sphery> | That patch would allow MythWeb to request the time zone ID from the backend, then apply it to the PHP code. |
| 18:15 | <sphery> | so the same rules would apply. |
| 18:16 | <gbee> | just that the code in mythweb converted all times to GMT but not back again to BST when making the request to the backend, or something |
| 18:17 | <kormoc> | it should fix it |
| 18:17 | <gbee> | guess I should have put it all down in a ticket when xris and I debugged it months ago |
| 18:17 | <kormoc> | we do convert everything to unix timestamps and then count on php converting it back to the correct time |
| 18:17 | <sphery> | 20080307 12:24:46< gbee> sphery: think you've hit the nail - there was no timezone given in php.ini, when I check phpinfo() it thought the timezone was UTC instead of GMT/BST (I blame the French) |
| 18:18 | <gbee> | sphery: doh, well I blame my memory this time ;) |
| 18:18 | <sphery> | So, it wasn't your machine config, but your PHP config (and PHP's not picking up the right time zone config from the machine) |
| 18:18 | <kormoc> | this should fix that, as the conversion back will go to the correct timezone |
| 18:18 | <sphery> | No, you were right. PHP was wrong. |
| 18:19 | <gbee> | ok, but at least we had it figured out and it's probably fixed, I just haven't use mythweb lately to notice :) |
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| 18:20 | <sphery> | I just had a partial recollection of the actual problem (but not the source of the problem, so my from-memory description wasn't accurate). |
| 18:21 | <kormoc> | gbee, it's not fixed in mythweb yet, but will be easy-sauce once sphery's patches go in |
| 18:21 | <sphery> | Only reason I remembered any of it is because your debugging and the slew of other users with the same problem got the time zone stuff on my TODO list. :) |
| 18:21 | <gbee> | whereas I had no recollection of reaching the conclusion that it was config related at all |
| 18:21 | <kormoc> | it's actually a php 5ism |
| 18:21 | <kormoc> | php 5 changed how php does time, and I seem to recall it's a php 5.1+ specific change as well |
| 18:22 | <kormoc> | go PHP! |
| 18:23 | <gbee> | time and timezones are one thing that PHP has never done well, I remember that the phpBB devs flat refused to implement daylight savings support in their software because it was a nightmare |
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| 21:15 | <GreyFoxx> | laga If you see this later, I was wrong, it's host:6544/Myth/GetRecording NOT /MythXML/GetRecording |
| 21:15 | <GreyFoxx> | Ive just used it to watch a recording in VLC :) |
| 21:16 | <GreyFoxx> | still no 100% here though |
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