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| 05:37 | <stuarta> | morning all |
| 05:37 | <janneg> | morning stuarta |
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| 06:28 | <gbee> | how did mythsystem end up in libmythui? |
| 06:30 | <gbee> | depends on MythMainWindow ... seems ugly though :( |
| 06:31 | <stuarta> | ew |
| 06:32 | <danielk22> | it only uses it for HasMythMainWindow(), that could prolly be moved to MythContext. |
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| 07:00 | <gbee> | I think I was suggesting the other day that we could get rid of QCodecs since the only bits we use are now in QT4 |
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| 07:34 | <svip> | I have a Plextor ConvertX PX-AV200U which is connected to an old VideoHIB machine, I need to get the contents of these old tapes through this. While I have found no support for PX-AV200U on Linux, though I read someone said it worked flawless on MythTV, I still cannot figure it out, as it lacks the /dev/video link. Any help? |
| 07:34 | <laga> | svip: /topic |
| 07:36 | <svip> | Oh. |
| 07:36 | <svip> | Sorry. |
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| 08:45 | <gbee> | still going to use the English flag in my themes, so there :p |
| 08:45 | <laga> | heh |
| 08:45 | <laga> | have fun doing that screen for the subtitle selection screens... |
| 08:46 | <laga> | i think there's even klingon in that list |
| 08:46 | <laga> | okay, mrgandalf's merge patch doesn't build because he forgot to svn add lots of files. oops. |
| 08:46 | <gbee> | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Klingon-flag.svg |
| 08:47 | <stuarta> | :-P |
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| 09:35 | <gbee> | can't people read? |
| 09:36 | <stuarta> | nope |
| 09:36 | <stuarta> | :) |
| 09:37 | <gbee> | paradox |
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| 09:40 | <gbee> | not sure I'd agree with Baylink that the wiki should become a dumping ground for outdated articles, the Internet is already littered with old, incorrect and irrelevant articles/howtos etc from ten years ago, it's arguably one of the biggest problems when trying to find information through a search engine |
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| 10:39 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: have you noticed a significant increase in ringbuffer transition errors since your merge? |
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| 10:41 | <laga> | MrGandalf: your merge patch is missing files. |
| 10:41 | <laga> | like imgconvert.h in libavcodec/ |
| 10:46 | <MrGandalf> | laga: hmm, I'll need to either play with svn or create a patch differently.. I'll give ya another link before the end of today. |
| 10:46 | <laga> | MrGandalf: laga AT laga.ath.cx please - i'll upload it to my webspace then for everyone to use |
| 10:46 | <laga> | megaupload.com is scary |
| 10:58 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: maybe, mythfrontend takes a huge amount of sys time |
| 10:59 | <janneg> | I blamed the nvidia driver since I've seen also visual errors |
| 11:01 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: visual errors.. odd you should say that.. h264? |
| 11:02 | <janneg> | not related to video playback |
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| 11:02 | <janneg> | also on the desktop |
| 11:02 | <MrGandalf> | I see |
| 11:03 | <Chutt> | gbee, lirc + screensaver needed myth_system |
| 11:04 | <laga> | MrGandalf: you probably need to "svn add" those files. i believe "svn status" will give you a list of unknown files |
| 11:05 | <gbee> | Chutt: reading further I put 2+2 together, my first instinct was just that it didn't belong |
| 11:05 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:05 | <Chutt> | i didn't like it either |
| 11:05 | <MrGandalf> | laga: thanks :) |
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| 11:19 | <MrGandalf> | laga: sent |
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| 11:32 | <laga> | thanks |
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| 11:34 | <laga> | uploaded at http://laga.ath.cx |
| 11:34 | <laga> | err. |
| 11:34 | <laga> | uploaded at http://laga.ath.cx/ffmpeg_merge_r18171-fixes.tar.gz |
| 11:34 | <laga> | less fail this time ;) |
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| 11:36 | <MrGandalf> | I cheated a bit.. the new libavcodec/liba52.c was giving me constant segfaults so I used an older version. As soon as a proper merge is complete, I'll create an updated patch for -fixes. |
| 11:40 | <laga> | is liba52.c the normal decoder? or used to use the external one? |
| 11:41 | <MrGandalf> | it's the external lib support |
| 11:41 | <laga> | ah. that's not supported anyways AFAIK |
| 11:41 | <MrGandalf> | "not supported"? |
| 11:42 | <laga> | by mythtv devs |
| 11:42 | <laga> | let me digg up that email |
| 11:43 | <MrGandalf> | I know a few people still use it due to the poor gain in the internal decoder |
| 11:43 | <laga> | yeah, it's pretty low :( |
| 11:44 | <MrGandalf> | the external lib sucks as well, just not as bad :) |
| 11:47 | <gbee> | still? They haven't fixed that yet? |
| 11:47 | <laga> | i need to turn up my amp half way to get decent sound |
| 11:48 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: haven't tried the internal yet after the merge |
| 11:49 | <laga> | okay, i can't find the mail, but mark spieth (AFAIK) told me that liba52 isn't supported with multichannel audio |
| 11:50 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: it's even quieter |
| 11:52 | <gbee> | doh |
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| 11:53 | <MrGandalf> | perfect.. what a fix |
| 11:54 | <janneg> | I had to remove our hack to make it louder due to a conflict and forgot to add it again |
| 11:54 | <laga> | is it easy to fix? |
| 11:55 | <laga> | MrGandalf: i'm building with your patch now. i'll let you know if it works |
| 11:55 | <laga> | gah, eskil's shoutcast patch is segfaulty |
| 11:59 | <janneg> | laga: probably just multiplicating in ff_ac3_downmix_c |
| 11:59 | <janneg> | oh and in the SIMD version |
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| 12:45 | <laga> | MrGandalf: i get this error when building with your patch on amd64: http://pastebin.ca/1178791 |
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| 12:48 | <laga> | MrGandalf: interesting. |
| 12:48 | <laga> | MrGandalf: ffmpeg trunk only has one reference to X264_ME_TESA, too |
| 12:50 | <laga> | MrGandalf: i'll try to build ffmpeg trunk |
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| 13:00 | <MrGandalf> | laga: -march=k8? |
| 13:01 | <laga> | yes. |
| 13:01 | <laga> | i'm trying to compile ffmpeg with libx264 now |
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| 13:02 | <laga> | MrGandalf: okay, i can reproduce it with ffmpeg trunk. |
| 13:03 | <laga> | on the other hand: why do we compile the mythtv packages with --enable-libx264?! |
| 13:03 | <laga> | on ubuntu |
| 13:03 | <laga> | i would report a bug in the ffmpeg bug tracker, but i'm not going to solve that riddle |
| 13:14 | <MrGandalf> | heh |
| 13:15 | <laga> | #ffmpeg is über-helpful. exactly what i expected from people doing stuff like that riddle |
| 13:25 | <laga> | i'll take that back, it's probably caused by my outdated version of libx264. |
| 13:33 | <MrGandalf> | :) |
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| 13:37 | <dragonian> | has anyone seen any (moderatly) frequent deadlocks recently? |
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| 13:37 | <dragonian> | i'm seeing this in fixes.. (with a few backported patches for hdpvr) |
| 13:38 | <dragonian> | it looks like a deadlock w/ the db lock in MDBManager |
| 13:38 | <dragonian> | and the verbose lock |
| 13:39 | <dragonian> | i don't think the hdpvr patches caused this |
| 13:39 | <gbee> | no-one has reported deadlocks as far as I'm aware |
| 13:40 | <dragonian> | the other thing i've changed recently.. is switching the cpu from dual to quad |
| 13:40 | <dragonian> | which implies that more threads have a chance to run at the same time |
| 13:42 | <dragonian> | incidentially faster too (amd 4400+ -> c2q Q9450) |
| 13:48 | <laga> | MrGandalf: the merge looks pretty good. takes less CPU than coreavc and skipping works |
| 13:52 | <laga> | although it seems that coreavc did the deinterlacing, that might explain why it takes less cPU |
| 13:53 | <MrGandalf> | could be |
| 13:54 | <MrGandalf> | I'm pretty impressed with ffmpeg's h264 decode support. |
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| 13:54 | <laga> | yes. although i'm getting some stuttering right now.. |
| 13:55 | <MrGandalf> | let me know if you see ringbuffer switching problems (like between programs) |
| 13:55 | <laga> | these tend to happen with plain -fixes as well |
| 13:55 | <laga> | although i don't use livetv at all. tino keitel however is very interesting in fixing these problems, so he probably wants to try your patches if you have some |
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| 14:07 | <gbee> | laga: with, or without deblocking? |
| 14:07 | <laga> | um. how can i check? |
| 14:09 | <gbee> | well I'm assuming unless you've patched myth with the skiploop filter patch that it's still enabled, so your question has answered mine ;) |
| 14:09 | <laga> | heh |
| 14:10 | <gbee> | I only wish there was a change which would make h.264 HD playable on my laptop ... but that's wishful thinking |
| 14:11 | <laga> | i'll take back what i said about skipping working correctly. it works a lot better, but it just skipped back like 10 minutes when it was supposed to do 30s :) |
| 14:14 | <MrGandalf> | laga: Yes, livetv does that.. but that happens on all my LiveTV ATM. |
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| 14:16 | <laga> | MrGandalf: i'll have to try that tomorrow. right now i'm battling "prebuffer pause" messages with h264 HD content. it happens when CPU goes above 100% |
| 14:16 | <MrGandalf> | laga: try the skiploop patch. |
| 14:17 | * | laga cries |
| 14:18 | <gbee> | laga: what CPU? just for reference |
| 14:19 | <laga> | gbee: core 2 duo E6300, nvidia 7600 GS |
| 14:19 | <gbee> | thanks |
| 14:19 | <clever> | i rarely find anything that can tax my c2d |
| 14:19 | <clever> | its blazing fast compared to everything else |
| 14:20 | <teprrr> | are those ffmpeg changes merged back to trunk or is it a patchset somewhere in trac? |
| 14:20 | <clever> | i had installed ffmpeg trunk at one point and its headers caused mythtv to stop compiling |
| 14:21 | <clever> | its fixed for now but i thought id mention it |
| 14:21 | <laga> | gbee: it's really almost there. smooth playback except for the occasional stuttering. i'll try the skiploop patch |
| 14:21 | <MrGandalf> | my E6750 can handle any h264 content on one core. I do occasionally get hickups on progressive content without the skiploop patch (non key-frames) |
| 14:21 | <laga> | MrGandalf: interesting. how many gigahurtz is that? |
| 14:23 | <gbee> | my X2 3600+ can handle 1080i h.264 with deblocking disabled, almost with it enabled - but it stutters for a couple of frames every ~10 seconds |
| 14:24 | <laga> | gbee: overclocking? |
| 14:24 | <gbee> | so it's sounding like this improvement would let me re-enabled deblocking |
| 14:24 | <MrGandalf> | laga: 2.66, 1333 fsb |
| 14:24 | <gbee> | laga: no overclocking |
| 14:24 | <MrGandalf> | laga: no oc |
| 14:24 | <laga> | gbee: try it ;) |
| 14:24 | <laga> | gbee: are you running trunk or -fixes? |
| 14:25 | <gbee> | -fixes on that machine |
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| 14:25 | <laga> | then you should try the merge patch |
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| 14:25 | <gbee> | the 3600 is a 2Ghz, not that you can really compare on clock speed anymore |
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| 14:30 | <laga> | now i broke my build. argh |
| 14:30 | <MrGandalf> | laga: the settings portion of the patch is screwed. |
| 14:31 | <laga> | of yours? |
| 14:31 | <MrGandalf> | no, the skiploop patch |
| 14:31 | <laga> | it doesn't work without that patch either. |
| 14:32 | <laga> | i'm using http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/4621/skip_loop_r15913.patch FWIW |
| 14:33 | <laga> | i wonder how i broke this. http://www.pastebin.ca/1178879 |
| 14:35 | <MrGandalf> | do you need to re configure?? |
| 14:37 | <laga> | i build packages. these always clean up. let's see if something got stuck |
| 14:40 | <laga> | um |
| 14:40 | <laga> | never mind |
| 14:40 | <laga> | i reverted configure |
| 14:40 | <laga> | that probably caused it |
| 14:40 | <MrGandalf> | :) |
| 14:41 | <MrGandalf> | I'm sure it did.. those were added for the merge. |
| 14:41 | <laga> | i had a flaky patch, thats why i revert it |
| 14:41 | <laga> | damn |
| 14:42 | <laga> | filterdiff to the rescue! :) |
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| 14:55 | <danielk22> | anyone else having problems pulling up http://svm.mythtv.org ? |
| 14:55 | <danielk22> | s/svm/svn/g |
| 14:56 | <MrGandalf> | danielk22: yes |
| 14:57 | <MrGandalf> | there it comes |
| 14:57 | <danielk22> | :) |
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| 17:35 | <laga> | the skiploop filter doesn't have improved things, it seems |
| 17:36 | <gbee> | laga: did you enable it in the settings? |
| 17:37 | <gbee> | it's disabled by default, even with the patch applied |
| 17:37 | <laga> | um, my skiploop patch didn't have a setting.. oh. |
| 17:37 | <laga> | where is it? playback profile? |
| 17:37 | <gbee> | checkbox under play .. |
| 17:37 | <gbee> | yes |
| 17:42 | <janneg> | the skiploop patch as it is in the ticket disables the loop filter only if one uses threads |
| 17:44 | <janneg> | http://rafb.net/p/H6kieI53.html enables also other speedups which result in a different decoded frame |
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| 17:46 | <gbee> | laga: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4653 |
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| 17:48 | <laga> | thank you |
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| 17:49 | <laga> | janneg: i'll try that, too. if it's necessary |
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| 20:30 | <zelda1> | hello people |
| 20:31 | <zelda1> | is there anyone here? |
| 20:31 | <iamlindoro> | zelda1, you probably want #mythtv-users |
| 20:32 | <iamlindoro> | (this is the development channel) |
| 20:32 | <zelda1> | depends... what do I have here? |
| 20:32 | <zelda1> | ah. |
| 20:32 | <zelda1> | thanks. |
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| 23:55 | <jpastore> | hi, I'm not getting to much help in mythtv-users so I'm someone can just point me in the right direction. I'm looking to build a system to act as a data repo/mytv box. was looking for some recommendations |
| 23:56 | * | stuarta points back at #mythtv-users |
| 23:56 | <iamlindoro> | That is *not* a reason to ask here |
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