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| 04:44 | <francois> | Hi, I would like some help. I just installed MythTV. But when I run it, it's pixelated beyond recognition. |
| 04:44 | <stuarta> | step 1. read the topic |
| 04:45 | <francois> | The topic of? |
| 04:45 | <stuarta> | the channel type '/topic' |
| 04:46 | <francois> | oops, sorry |
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| 04:47 | <clever> | weird, they never show up in #mythtv-users right away:P |
| 04:47 | <stuarta> | sometimes :) |
| 04:49 | <justinh> | maybe most of the time they make the right decision ;) |
| 04:50 | <clever> | leave and never come back?:P |
| 04:50 | * | stuarta chuckles |
| 04:50 | <justinh> | if they manage to miss the channel topic & the joining message... er.. I don't think they should be eligible ;) |
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| 06:15 | <frink_> | hey folks! |
| 06:20 | * | clever points at the topic |
| 06:20 | * | stuarta couldn't be arsed |
| 06:25 | <justinh> | lol @ the domain though |
| 06:26 | <clever> | stuarta's quit msg was better:P |
| 06:27 | <clever> | looks like a reference to REC |
| 06:27 | <justinh> | clever: look up fonejacker on youtube |
| 06:27 | <stuarta> | what rebootski? |
| 06:27 | <clever> | yeah |
| 06:27 | <justinh> | beerski, foodski, skiski .. |
| 06:27 | <clever> | justinh: my firefox is running remotely thru X11 atm |
| 06:27 | <clever> | the sound would come out a computer in the other room |
| 06:28 | <stuarta> | meh, i'm trying to get Xnest to play games so i can rescan the channels on my headless prod box |
| 06:29 | <clever> | i dont see a need for Xnest with mythtv-setup |
| 06:29 | <stuarta> | it barfs lots of X errors |
| 06:29 | <clever> | i can run it right over raw tcp over x11 |
| 06:29 | <stuarta> | so i'm "working around it" |
| 06:29 | <clever> | lol |
| 06:30 | <stuarta> | raw tcp ain't working either |
| 06:30 | <stuarta> | nor is tunnelled X over ssh |
| 06:30 | <clever> | weird |
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| 06:30 | <stuarta> | tunnelled gives me X errors |
| 06:31 | <stuarta> | raw X11 plain isn't working |
| 06:31 | * | stuarta beats it with a trout |
| 06:31 | * | stuarta restarts X server |
| 06:31 | <clever> | ive only had to restart X lately when the xauth file got trashed |
| 06:32 | <clever> | and i got locked out of my own local server |
| 06:33 | * | stuarta bizarrely can no longer log onto txt console :-/ |
| 06:36 | * | stuarta moves random waffling to -users |
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| 07:21 | <frink_> | are the GF 6200s any good? |
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| 08:02 | <gbee> | anyone think that adding "break qFatal" to the example gdbcommands file is a bad idea? |
| 08:02 | <stuarta> | what's it do? |
| 08:03 | <stuarta> | catches qFatals when thrown? |
| 08:07 | <gbee> | catches qasserts, like those triggered by iterating past the end of lists - normally you can't get a location or proper backtrace from those |
| 08:07 | <stuarta> | makes sense then |
| 08:07 | <gbee> | set breakpoint pending on |
| 08:07 | <gbee> | break qFatal |
| 08:08 | <gbee> | in the commands file gives useful output :) |
| 08:12 | <clever> | nice |
| 08:13 | <clever> | i had to install the 200mb qt debug package and use another 100mb of ram to get a proper backtrace fro those |
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| 08:14 | <tony_> | i want to start fresh. do i just sudo apt-get purge mythtv? |
| 08:14 | <stuarta> | step 1. read the topic |
| 08:15 | <tony_> | fuck, wrong room. you guys should change the name of this place |
| 08:15 | <stuarta> | irc does not have rooms |
| 08:16 | <tony_> | channel? sorry, not used to real chat. i come from yahoo chat |
| 08:16 | <justinh> | you guys should stop wandering in by mistake :P |
| 08:16 | <stuarta> | we need an electric fence |
| 08:17 | <GreyFoxx> | We can have that, a key on the channel ;) |
| 08:17 | <stuarta> | nah, that prohibits prospective developers |
| 08:17 | <clever> | then i cant idly watch the dev talk:P |
| 08:17 | <GreyFoxx> | stuart: yeah, very true |
| 08:20 | <gbee> | shame keys can't have messages along with them, that way we could have an ffmpeg style IQ and reading test |
| 08:20 | <GreyFoxx> | I've seen that on some irc networks |
| 08:20 | <GreyFoxx> | when the join fails you are auto noticed/messaged a custom message from the channel |
| 08:20 | <gbee> | or just "This is the MythTV devlopers channel, if you are completely sure you want to be here enter MythTV backwards" |
| 08:21 | <GreyFoxx> | No idea if that applies to freenode |
| 08:21 | <gbee> | whatever happened to 0.21.1 ? |
| 08:22 | <justinh> | enter mythtv backwards? sounds illegal in 14 states |
| 08:22 | <gbee> | :) |
| 08:22 | <gbee> | we were going to make a point release or two pretty early on but that never happened :( |
| 08:22 | <clever> | vthtym |
| 08:23 | <stuarta> | pardon you |
| 08:23 | <gbee> | how rude! get out!! |
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| 08:35 | <frink_> | soooooooo |
| 08:35 | <frink_> | hello |
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| 08:38 | <gbee> | the website docs are updated automatically or does someone need to do that? |
| 08:38 | <justinh> | frink_: This is the MythTV development channel. For mythtv related user support, go to #mythtv-users. |
| 08:39 | <janneg> | gbee: it gets updated automatically but I'm not sure if we have already switched to the release-0-21-fixes |
| 08:39 | <janneg> | Chutt: ^^^ |
| 08:40 | <gbee> | right, I thought it did but couldn't remember ;) |
| 08:41 | <gbee> | I'll backport this change anyway, even though I'm targetting the website more than 0.21 users (QT asserts are more common in QT4) |
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| 09:04 | <gbee> | gah, nigel!! |
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| 09:37 | <gbee> | hmm, development frontend has become unstable all of a sudden, crashing in several different places, none of which makes sense |
| 09:38 | <stuarta> | :( |
| 09:38 | <gbee> | SimpleDBStorage seems to be a favourite |
| 09:40 | <gbee> | 3 distcleans and complete rebuilds haven't helped, wiping ccache and starting again |
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| 10:41 | <Dibblah> | "The LATM parser sounds interesting, we might add that for Ubuntu Intrepid." - Isn't adding unreviewed and mostly untested code into packages a bit... Forward? |
| 10:45 | * | gbee reminds people of the Debian SSL fiasco |
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| 10:47 | <stuarta> | why is the OSX build still using mysql-4.1.22 ???? |
| 10:47 | * | stuarta wonders |
| 10:48 | <laga> | Dibblah: yes, hence the "we might". of course, i'd ask it to be reviewed first |
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| 10:48 | <Dibblah> | Heh :) |
| 10:49 | <laga> | the mythtv packages don't have any insane patches. yet. ;) |
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| 10:53 | <migo32> | hallo :) |
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| 10:53 | <migo32> | do i have to talk english or can i speak german as well here ? |
| 10:54 | <stuarta> | english please, and also read the topic first |
| 10:54 | <migo32> | oppss.s... |
| 10:55 | <migo32> | thank you stuarta... its the wrong channel for me |
| 10:55 | <migo32> | take care.. bye |
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| 11:11 | <stuarta> | wtf is a LATM parser? |
| 11:11 | <laga> | let me digg up that patch |
| 11:12 | <laga> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5487 |
| 11:12 | <laga> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/5487/mythtv-latm.patch |
| 11:12 | <laga> | Dibblah: ^^ i don't think adding those pieces to the package will result in a lot of stabbing |
| 11:14 | <stuarta> | it's the LATM bit that was confusing me, never heard of it |
| 11:14 | <stuarta> | now if they had just said, we are identifying an additional audio stream type |
| 11:14 | <stuarta> | it would have made sense |
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| 11:14 | <laga> | "parser" sounds better ;) |
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| 11:23 | <gbee> | pfft |
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| 15:12 | <justinh> | gbee: going through Retro's menu-ui.xml to give it a bosh of inheritance. do you have any preferred scheme of grouping entries? |
| 15:12 | <gbee> | justinh: not really, what ever works for you |
| 15:13 | <justinh> | okees :) |
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| 15:13 | <justinh> | does the inheritance work only downwards in the file? |
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| 15:13 | <justinh> | dumb question of the day ^^^^ |
| 15:14 | <gbee> | some of the older themes group according to menus, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me as every menu theme is different - I guess grouping by subject is the easiest to understand and to find what you are looking for |
| 15:14 | <gbee> | justinh: yeah |
| 15:14 | <justinh> | righto |
| 15:15 | <gbee> | faster/easier to parse the xml and handle the widgets in a linear motion |
| 15:15 | <gbee> | so I don't see that changing anytime soon |
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| 15:37 | <gbee> | seems some of these lighter weight frontends could benefit from -v none |
| 15:38 | <laga> | how come? |
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| 15:51 | <gbee> | any sort of output to stderr/stdout seems to use resources, redirecting to a log or -v none helps a lot |
| 15:52 | <gbee> | I discovered that when playing with h.264 but I've been reminded of it by helping someone to get their SD DVB-C recordings to play better on an Atom based AA1 |
| 15:53 | <gbee> | not really sure why verbose logging would cause the problems it does, I've no idea if it's CPU or just IO related |
| 15:54 | <gbee> | the fact that it improves when redirecting to a log would seem to rule out disk IO |
| 15:54 | <laga> | i wonder if it's just the terminal? |
| 15:55 | <gbee> | you don't want to waste cycles on logging with an SSD, so -v none is better |
| 15:55 | <gbee> | laga: probably |
| 15:55 | <laga> | hum |
| 15:55 | <laga> | i wonder if -v none will make my stuttering issues go away.. i've always suspected these "prebuffering pause messages" were causing it :) |
| 16:03 | <gbee> | worth a try :) |
| 16:08 | <janneg> | one could try logging into /dev/null or /dev/shm/mythfrontend.log |
| 16:09 | * | laga adds the mysterious LATM patch to the ubuntu packages |
| 16:10 | <GreyFoxx> | LATM patch ? What does that do ? |
| 16:10 | <laga> | i'll send a mail to mythtv-dev later, detailing what patches we're applying. before stabbings happen |
| 16:10 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: not as exciting as it sounds |
| 16:10 | <laga> | GreyFoxx: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/5487/mythtv-latm.patch |
| 16:10 | <laga> | ;) |
| 16:11 | <GreyFoxx> | ahhh ok |
| 16:11 | <gbee> | it just adds support for aac-latm streams in DVB, ffmpeg already supports them but we weren't picking out the codec identifier from the dvb tables |
| 16:11 | <gbee> | s/dvb/mpeg/ |
| 16:13 | <gbee> | makes me wonder in what other ways our mpeg support is incomplete - is there a spec for these things? |
| 16:13 | <janneg> | not one but thousends |
| 16:15 | <janneg> | well, I'm exxagerating but there a couple of mpeg related or based on standards |
| 16:16 | <janneg> | partly contradictionary |
| 16:16 | <laga> | is it normal that i can't see the complete email address in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5487 ? |
| 16:16 | <laga> | for paul@.. |
| 16:17 | <gbee> | well I guessed there would be specs, but I suppose I was asking if there is an authoritative one which lists all the codec ids for example |
| 16:17 | <iamlindoro__> | yes, it's normal-- I believe you'll get the full addresses in e-mail updates to tickets you are subscribed to, though |
| 16:18 | <gbee> | laga: anti-spam measure, devs can see the full address in trac |
| 16:19 | <laga> | gbee: care to tell me the guys last name? assuming it's part of the address |
| 16:19 | <gbee> | it's not |
| 16:19 | <laga> | thanks. |
| 16:19 | <gbee> | unless his last name is kcbbs |
| 16:19 | <laga> | then it's "Paul ????" in the patch. ;) |
| 16:19 | <gbee> | which is not impossible, but seems unlikely ;) |
| 16:20 | <gbee> | I can give you the address so you can email him if you'd like |
| 16:20 | <laga> | i added a reference to the ticket.. i'd expect that patch to be committed so it'll be dropped next release anyways |
| 16:21 | <laga> | i'll add the address :) |
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| 17:07 | <laga> | gbee: see janneg's reply. LATM indeed needs another patch |
| 17:08 | <laga> | http://pkendall.homeip.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=1 |
| 17:09 | <laga> | i wonder why he adds a patch to enable it in mythtv to trac |
| 17:09 | <laga> | when there's no chance it'll work without his patch (or maybe a ffmpeg resync) |
| 17:11 | <iamlindoro> | Isn't he one of the guys keeping their own ffmpeg resync going? |
| 17:11 | <laga> | yes |
| 17:11 | <iamlindoro> | Wonder if he just plum forgot since that's what he's running |
| 17:12 | <laga> | probably |
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| 17:25 | <janneg> | laga: the latm patch is not in ffmpeg trunk |
| 17:26 | <stoth> | multiproto question. Is their any support in MyTHTV right now? If so, how extensive is it? |
| 17:26 | <stoth> | Can anyone point me at a hg patch or something. |
| 17:26 | <iamlindoro> | stoth: There is a trac ticket w/ patches, but couldn't comment on support |
| 17:27 | <iamlindoro> | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5403 |
| 17:36 | <stoth> | iamlindoro: thx |
| 17:41 | <Dubstar_04> | How can I get the value of a button? |
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| 17:43 | <Dubstar_04> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41033/ |
| 17:44 | <Dubstar_04> | I want to get the value of a clicked button into a function but it needs to be dynamic |
| 17:44 | <justinh> | not sure that's in mythui yet |
| 17:45 | <Dubstar_04> | Damn |
| 17:45 | <justinh> | dont take my word as gospel though |
| 17:45 | <Dubstar_04> | I need to clean my plugin up before I try and explain how it works in a tutorial |
| 17:45 | <justinh> | like.. ever ;) |
| 17:45 | <Dubstar_04> | ha ha |
| 17:46 | <Dubstar_04> | justinh: how are the icons going? |
| 17:46 | <justinh> | done |
| 17:46 | <justinh> | comitted em today |
| 17:46 | <Dubstar_04> | Any screenies? |
| 17:46 | <justinh> | missed mythstream & mythfm. unofficial, yada yada |
| 17:47 | <justinh> | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/screenshots/ |
| 17:49 | <Dubstar_04> | they're amazing!! |
| 17:49 | <Dubstar_04> | Where did you learn to produce this stuff? |
| 17:49 | <justinh> | I didn't draw them all myself. sheesh |
| 17:49 | <justinh> | most are the original mythcenter icons. I found them in svg format :) |
| 17:50 | <bkero> | justinh: pie?!? |
| 17:50 | <justinh> | bkero: I wasn't in the mood to rename it |
| 17:50 | <Dubstar_04> | Is mythcenter going to become the default theme? |
| 17:50 | <bkero> | justinh: What's the cake/pie for? :P |
| 17:51 | <justinh> | mythrecipe. another 3rd party plugin |
| 17:51 | <justinh> | wonder how far the revamp of that got |
| 17:52 | <justinh> | Dubstar_04: I hope not |
| 17:52 | <bkero> | a+ idea :D |
| 17:52 | <Dubstar_04> | why? its better that the tripe that is default now!! |
| 17:53 | <justinh> | I'm going to be angling to make a mega-spiffy theme to showcase mythui, so is gbee... so hopefully some themes can be left to steep in their own juices |
| 17:53 | <Dubstar_04> | although you probably have some wizardry pokery up your sleeve? |
| 17:53 | <Dubstar_04> | damn beat me to it!! |
| 17:54 | <iamlindoro> | gbee: Speaking of which, any thought to adding a randomize function for an image (in particular I am thinking of a background) to be pulled from a given directory? |
| 17:54 | <iamlindoro> | something like <imagetype>/some/dir</imagetype> maybe? |
| 17:55 | <justinh> | iamlindoro: bleugh. I can see that being abused |
| 17:55 | <justinh> | but I may have some uses for it too :) |
| 17:55 | <iamlindoro> | exactly ;) |
| 17:56 | <iamlindoro> | and for reference I DON'T mean it in an "Aeon clone" sense |
| 17:56 | <gbee> | MythCenter is hardly what I'd call a great theme, it's not even the best theme made within the limitations of the existing UI code |
| 17:56 | <justinh> | it's not even a theme :) |
| 17:57 | <justinh> | somebody redid the menus & icons, finito |
| 17:57 | <gbee> | yeah |
| 17:57 | <Dubstar_04> | Does anyone have any ideas regarding my above pastebin? |
| 17:57 | <gbee> | iamlindoro: I'll think about it, sure |
| 17:58 | <justinh> | it's not a theme until you've redone archive-ui.xml :P |
| 17:58 | <iamlindoro> | gbee: Can't ask for more than that :) |
| 17:59 | <gbee> | Dubstar_04: what about it? |
| 18:01 | <Dubstar_04> | i would like to ->GetText() from a *clickButton but I can't figure out how!! |
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| 18:02 | <gbee> | connect the buttonPressed signals to a handleButton slot, in handleButton MythUIButton button = GetFocusWidget(); QString value = button->text(); |
| 18:03 | <gbee> | not perfect maybe, buttonPressed might send a pointer to the button it comes from |
| 18:04 | <gbee> | MythUIButtonList is a little more sophisticated in that regard |
| 18:04 | <Dubstar_04> | Thanks I will give it a go. |
| 18:07 | <justinh> | Dubstar_04: anyhow, I set out to make mythcenter's watermarks less blurry & I think those did the job. as for what's next... hrm. maybe play with mythui some more & help document it |
| 18:07 | <gbee> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41045/ |
| 18:08 | <gbee> | umm, that might be CurrentFocusWidget() not GetFocusWidget() |
| 18:08 | <gbee> | no, it's GetFocusWidget() ... |
| 18:15 | <Dubstar_04> | gbee: would the *button need to be declared as anything? |
| 18:16 | <gbee> | MythUIButton? |
| 18:16 | <gbee> | sorry, I'm tired and maybe just not understanding the question |
| 18:17 | <Dubstar_04> | I will paste bin it |
| 18:18 | <Dubstar_04> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41051/ |
| 18:18 | <Dubstar_04> | when i try to build it it says unused varible button, button not declared in this scope |
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| 18:20 | <gbee> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41052/ |
| 18:21 | <gbee> | you need to include { } around the else block (or if block) if it contains more than one line |
| 18:21 | <gbee> | so the compiler saw that button was defined in the else block, but the line following that was outside the block where button wasn't defined |
| 18:23 | <gbee> | your code was equivalent to this, where button isn't defined in the same scope: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41054/ |
| 18:26 | <Dubstar_04> | It worked!! your a legend!! |
| 18:27 | <jams> | hear that gbee your a legend |
| 18:27 | <Dubstar_04> | Thats got rid of the need for a slot for each button!! |
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| 18:28 | <Dubstar_04> | thats legend not leg-end |
| 18:28 | * | gbee resists the urge to correct grammar and takes the compliment for what it is |
| 18:28 | <gbee> | :) |
| 18:28 | <Dubstar_04> | ha ha |
| 18:28 | <Dubstar_04> | I'm tired |
| 18:28 | <quentusrex> | Does mythtv currently support blue ray playback? |
| 18:29 | <gbee> | tell me about it, I've not had a decent night of sleep in ages |
| 18:29 | <gbee> | quentusrex: #mythtv-users |
| 18:29 | <Dubstar_04> | I'm terrible, once I start something i need to finish it!! |
| 18:30 | <quentusrex> | I'm interested in helping to develop the feature if it isn't. |
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| 18:31 | <Dubstar_04> | not if you knew what it was!! |
| 18:32 | <quentusrex> | I've read that currently the process requires the blue ray disk to be ripped before it can be played. Why? |
| 18:33 | <gbee> | Dubstar_04: you might think about doing the number buttons as a buttonlist in grid mode, simplifies the code and xml a little (less repetition) |
| 18:34 | <gbee> | but I probably shouldn't add to the confusion right now ;) |
| 18:34 | <gbee> | I'm off to bed |
| 18:34 | <Dubstar_04> | me too... |
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